Ron Paul To Morning Joe: America’s Next Occupation Is In Pakistan And ‘I Fear It’

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by Matt Schneider | 11:11 am, May 18th, 2011

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Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul appeared on Morning Joe and raised some eyebrows on a bunch of issues with the panel interviewing him. Paul joined Newt Gingrich’s dislike of Congressman Paul Ryan’s budget plan, but for the complete opposite reason: “it just wasn’t enough for me,” Paul said, yet “at least he’s going in the right direction.” Although when the conversation turned to foreign policy things got even more interesting.

Paul strongly disapproved of President Obama’s policies towards Pakistan and warned that he predicts American troops will be sent there soon:

“We keep bombing them, we kill innocent people there . . . I see the whole thing as a mess, and I think that we are going to be in Pakistan. I think that’s the next occupation and I fear it. I think it’s ridiculous, and I think our foreign policy is such we don’t need to be doing this.”

Mike Barnicle smartly picked up on a point that Paul was hinting at, and asked Paul directly whether he was suggesting the Bush administration handled Pakistan better than Obama? Paul reminded him that he was no fan of Bush, especially because of the war in Iraq, however, with regards to Pakistan and the elimination of our enemies, Paul in fact might prefer Bush:

“[Bush] was able to at least work with the security and the government of Pakistan and we got a lot of bad guys . . . and the way Saddam Hussein was captured was quite a bit different. And I just think there’s more questions now than ever. How many stories have we heard already about the killing of bin Laden. I mean, people are supposed to know what their government is doing and if you ask me exactly what happened, I have no idea because I’ve heard so many stories.”

The panel wondered whether Paul was floating conspiracy theories regarding Bin Laden, and although Paul said “no” he also responded, “inept policy invites people to think about conspiracy theories.” One thing is for sure with Paul, he sure doesn’t shy away from revealing exactly what he is thinking.

Watch the clip from MSNBC below:

Conspiracy Theory, Mike Barnicle, morning joe, Osama bin Laden, Pakistan, Ron Paul

THE REAL ROYAL KING

Paul/Gingrich ’12!
Pablo

I think it’s a footrace between Pakistan and Libya as to which country Obama will occupy first. I wonder if either of them is going to get the benefit of Congress’ authorization for the use of force.
The Lantern of Truth

Kucinich and Paul seem to be two guys who say exactly what they think , like it or not .
THE REAL ROYAL KING

Pablo said:
I think it’s a footrace between Pakistan and Libya as to which country Obama will occupy first. I wonder if either of them is going to get the benefit of Congress’ authorization for the use of force.

We won’t get involved in Pakistan for a number of reasons. One of the reasons is also one of the reasons we won’t get involved in Iran. The force would be too formidable.

Libya? That’s a tougher one. My guess is we’ll go along with a NATO slog. Eventually, the loyalists will tire of it all, and we’ll see change from within.
Pablo

THE REAL RABID KOOK said:
We won’t get involved in Pakistan for a number of reasons. One of the reasons is also one of the reasons we won’t get involved in Iran. The force would be too formidable.

We’re already involved in Pakistan, Kook.
Color Me Badd

I don’t agree with Ron Paul on everything, but at least the guy is honest and I have more in common with Paul than with Obama. Will probably vote for him if he can get the nomination.
Color Me Badd

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
We won’t get involved in Pakistan for a number of reasons. One of the reasons is also one of the reasons we won’t get involved in Iran. The force would be too formidable.

Are you drunk or are you just really stupid. We are drone bombing Pakistan and killing innocents on a daily basis. Read something.
ProObamaAgenda

Ron Paul…you’re a freaking joke and will neva eva eva be president…out of one side of your mouth you claim to be anti war and out the other side of your mouth you say this….”“[Bush] was able to at least work with the security and the government of Pakistan and we got a lot of bad guys . . . and the way Saddam Hussein was captured was quite a bit different”…………….WTF….you are now claiming Bushes policy of sending the whole gawd damn US Military into Iraq to catch Saddam is BETTER than what Obama did with Seal Team 6 to catch Bin Laden???…SEEMS LIKE YOURE PANDERING TO THE WARMONGERS SIR WITH THAT BULLSHIT STATEMENT…ME THINKS YOU SAW WHAT HAPPENED TO NEWT AND HAVE DECIDED YOURE NOT SO LIBERTARIAN ANYMORE….HEHEHEHEHEHEHE…Good luck trying to convince the Bible toting, gun clinging assholes in your party that heroin should be legal too….republicans get lots of money from the private prison industry thats likes it when everybody gets locked up for anything
felixw

At first blush, it seems unlikely that the US would occupy Pakistan. But who would have thought that Obama would get us involved in a vaguely defined military operation against Libya? Or keep Guantanamo open? Or ramp up operations in Afghanistan? Or sign an extension of the Patriot Act for even longer than the Republicans were requesting? Or still have troops in Iraq at this late stage?

I am reminded by a quip told me by an old conservative about Barry Goldwater’s failed campaign for the Presidency against Lyndon Johnson back in 1964. He said: “I was told that if I voted for Goldwater, the US would soon get caught up in a mindless and futile war. I did. And we were.”
Tony the Fist

Now there’s a job that should be contracted to India. They hate those guys.
THE REAL ROYAL KING

Pablo said:
We’re already involved in Pakistan, Kook.

Color Me Badd said:
Are you drunk or are you just really stupid. We are drone bombing Pakistan and killing innocents on a daily basis. Read something.

Paranoiac twits. The story is about occupying Pakistan. That is not in the cards.
hyenas

Don’t you guys realize that we’re already occupying both countries. Libya has “NATO forces” which is code for 100 US bombers and about 5 Europeans jets and ships. It seems to me that our military views the Afghan-Pakistan border as invisible because obviously we strike Pakistan with drones weekly and send in special forces for the big bad guys. But Ron Paul calls ‘em like he sees em and you can’t really put down anything he says unless you don’t understand what he’s saying or are intentionally trying to trip him up. I really hope he brings true transparency to the presidency.
Azarkhan

Pakistan has a population of 187,000,000 (Iraq: 30,000,000, Libya: 6.5 million) and is a center of Islamic fundamentalism. Sorry Ron, but your idea that the US will “occupy” Pakistan is ridiculous.
Man Bites Dog

Color Me Badd said:
I don’t agree with Ron Paul on everything, but at least the guy is honest and I have more in common with Paul than with Obama. Will probably vote for him if he can get the nomination.

Finally, signs of lucidity. However, disagreeing with Obama is racist and therefore you should be banned from Mediaite immediately.
MrTPar_taY

Good point Ron. Nero fiddles while…… To paraphrase “Watch out America, that sucking sound you hear is the country formerly known as the USA”

Ron Paul, Herman Cain 2012? Herman Cain, Ron Paul 2012? I’m beginning to like the sound of that.
Mas Liberty5

On Friday, when the initial 60-days for the War Powers Act is up, we will see if President Obama makes his case for more militarism in Libya. If congressional approval isn’t sought or given he has 30-days to stop his warmongering. No worries though, there is some neocon in congress that is helping him out.

Regardless, I don’t think the media, necons or liberals have the b%lls to challenge Obama’s abuse of power, just as they didn’t really challenge Bush’s.
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More Ron Paul stories on this site, yes please!!
ProObamaAgenda

felixw said:
At first blush, it seems unlikely that the US would occupy Pakistan. But who would have thought that Obama would get us involved in a vaguely defined military operation against Libya? Or keep Guantanamo open? Or ramp up operations in Afghanistan? Or sign an extension of the Patriot Act for even longer than the Republicans were requesting? Or still have troops in Iraq at this late stage?

I am reminded by a quip told me by an old conservative about Barry Goldwater’s failed campaign for the Presidency against Lyndon Johnson back in 1964. He said: “I was told that if I voted for Goldwater, the US would soon get caught up in a mindless and futile war. I did. And we were.”

You sir are an idiot…….During the campaign Obama said he was going to take the war to afganistan, Gitmo is still open because of the republicans defunding the closure and NOT because Obama wants it open…and what so vauge about being involved in Libya?? NOTHING EXCEPT YOU DUMB ASS REPUBLICANS PRETEND YOU CANT COMPREHEND ANYTHING…..And the war in Iraq is winding down according to the agreement signed by President Bush and the Iraqis in Dec 2008….you lying ass republicans need to pack your shit and leave the country, youre far to delusional and stupid to partake in american politics….you’re just like taliban suicide bombers,,,worthless as shit
Sam M.

What do people expect from a libertarian kook?
illusive man

I wouldn’t be suprised at all if Obama decided to invade Pakistan.
Since Libya,Obama has proven himself to be quite the little warmonger.
puck30

It will be the occupation you never heard about, it will be just like Iraq. 50,000 troops there but were not occupying anything.
Sam M.

illusive man said:
I wouldn’t be suprised at all if Obama decided to invade Pakistan.
Since Libya,Obama has proven himself to be quite the little warmonger.

After that, rumor has it that Canada is next followed by Fiji.
Mas Liberty5

On Friday, when the initial 60-days for the War Powers Act is up, we will see if President Obama makes his case for more militarism in Libya. If congressional approval isn’t sought or given he has 30-days to stop his warmongering. No worries though, there is some neocon in congress that is helping him out.

Regardless, I don’t think the media, necons or liberals have the b%lls to challenge Obama’s abuse of power, just as they didn’t really challenge Bush’s. The reality is Obama, just like Bush and others, in a corporatist bent on maintaining the military industrial complex, bent on maintaining a bloated and wasteful government that bails out wall street and the big banks.
felixw

ProObamaAgenda said:
You sir are an idiot…….During the campaign Obama said he was going to take the war to afganistan, Gitmo is still open because of the republicans defunding the closure and NOT because Obama wants it open…and what so vauge about being involved in Libya?? NOTHING EXCEPT YOU DUMB ASS REPUBLICANS PRETEND YOU CANT COMPREHEND ANYTHING…..And the war in Iraq is winding down according to the agreement signed by President Bush and the Iraqis in Dec 2008….you lying ass republicans need to pack your shit and leave the country, youre far to delusional and stupid to partake in american politics….you’re just like taliban suicide bombers,,,worthless as shit

Losing your cool, aren’t you? Of course, I can understand why a liberal might be embarrassed that your Nobel-Peace-Prize-winning hero is running three war fronts, sending out killer drones on a regular basis, still keeping Guantanamo running, supporting the Patriot Act and sending killing special forces squads into neutral countries.
Mas Liberty5

Sam M. said:
What do people expect from a libertarian kook?

I know. How dare the US government stop invading countries, and giving foreign aid to dictators. I mean the establishment politicians have given us $14.1 trillion in debt, trillion dollar deficits, bailout wall street, bailed out banks, bailed out domestic automakers, ignored the 4th Amendment in the name of “security” at airports, give subsides to huge corporations……..

But Ron Paul is the Kook.
Pablo

ProObamaAgenda said:
Gitmo is still open because of the republicans defunding the closure and NOT because Obama wants it open

The Republicans had no control of anything until a full year after the date Obama ordered Gitmo closed by. His problem was with Democrats, monkey boy.
Yoda002

Pablo said:
The Republicans had no control of anything until a full year after the date Obama ordered Gitmo closed by. His problem was with Democrats, monkey boy.

The Republicans were playing the fear card and didn’t want the Gitmo detainees in maximum security prisons because they thought that may have some super powers and they will be able to fly away.
X-3

illusive man said:
I wouldn’t be suprised at all if Obama decided to invade Pakistan.
Since Libya,Obama has proven himself to be quite the little warmonger.

It’s just another facet of -0bama’s agenda to wreck the US economy.

Color Me Badd said:
I don’t agree with Ron Paul on everything, but at least the guy is honest and I have more in common with Paul than with Obama. Will probably vote for him if he can get the nomination.

What would you think about a Ron Paul / Herman Cain ticket? These two people are about the ONLY ones making sense to me. (BTW, looks like your mind is improving some–I could hardly believe I gave you “thumbs up” on BOTH your posts.)