Yes, the GOP is filled with chickenhawks. Great to hear Dr. Paul call them on it. Poor boys dying for rich men’s wars. Immoral. Bring back the draft and see how many 8+ year wars we have.

One of the few things I agree with Ron Paul.

Ron,
You have some good ideas on the economy, but you lose any credibiltiy that you may have when you defend Iran against America.  Sorry, you need to exit stage left.

God bless Ron Paul for telling the truth and actually offering a solution to America’s malaise. The Americans probably won’t swallow the medicine, though.

Michelle, He hasn’t ruled out running as a third party candidate when he was asked a couple of days ago. He has a very loyal base and a lot of boots on the ground. Watch out!
 I think is a good thing for Obama and the Dems!

That’s gonna leave a mark!

Isn’t sad the the only chance Barry has is if we have a 3rd party candidate?  Don’t count on it though, he hasn’t done it in the past and I doubt he will do it now.   He knows that would mean another 4 years of Ozero and he’s smart enough to know that would be a disaster for the country.  But by all means, keep dreaming!

You have to admit, Michelle-in-Utah, the Newt would march us off into war after war after war without a thought as to mission, strategy, exit strategy, cost, civilian lives lost or, most importantly, our troops’ casualties and deaths. Having said that, I hope he gets the Republican nomination.

Not a single one.

You guys can trash Paul for his stances on Iran, etc. but maybe you just need to reconsider whether America is an untouchable angel of justice internationally. And maybe Israel isn’t as righteous as we are supposed to believe, either.

Yet, most polls show President Obama beating Willard and walloping  the Newt and Dr. Ron Paul. Well, honesty has never been your forte, Michelle-in-Utah.

The only thing I will admit is that you are wrong about everything, Royal Dimwit. 

Many of Ron Paul’s generation were cowards for not going to Nam but they drafted me right off main street. Paul voted for the draft. TV hosts like Chris Wallace idolized people like his old man for calling me baby killer. Many of you in the media have parents that were cowards. Many of you had cowardly parents that  were also ignorant about the war as they protested your child hook playmates and classmates. What’s Pauls point ?

So, Michelle-in-Utah is going to vote for the dog-abusing, flip-flooping, job terminating, multiple grandmothered, Wall Street insider from Michigan, Utah, New Hampshire and Massachusetts. We all thought so once the Donald dropped out.

It’s apparently the same as yours.

are we at war? has Iran attacked any of our bases or interests?  Why are you so gung ho about invading?

If this is an attempt to market your website, I suggest you reevaluate that strategy

Where did I say I was gung ho?  Do tell.

Most of us have gotten over Viet Nam — too bad about Ron Paul . . . oh, and I’d love to have his theories on 9/11 being an “inside job” come up in a debate.

Yes, we all know how obsessed you are with me and how limited your interests and your knowledge are, Michelle-in-Utah.

Gingrich is half the man Ron Paul is politically.  And twice the man physically.  Lol.

Oh brother – get over it Ron.  The media will run with the story, like they always do with republicans and VN while they give any/all democrat a complete and total pass.  stop doing the work of the lamestream medai Ron and get over yourself.

You have to remember Michelle-in-Utah is of a people who massacred “Gentile” men, women, children and infants at Mountain Meadow, a matter about which she is in the gravest denial. She has strong aggressive, warlike tendencies. Almost insatiable.

I would go with a quarter and thrice, but you may well be right.

Just because the guy won’t support Israel to the point of a mushroom cloud over the Middle East that will deliver your savior, doesn’t mean he supports Iran.  What is it with Israel that we have to bow down to the neo-conservative policy points regarding this country?  Do realize that the Israeli citizens don’t even agree with the chicken hawks in the US on Iran?    Israel can take care of itself without dragging the US into another conflict.

Yes, it must difficult to bleat, kvetch, moan and whine about the MSM or LSM or Librul Media destroying conservatives when it is the other Republican candidates, Republican office holders and the Republican media arms who are doing so. You have my sympathy, Tina. Maybe some Christmas cookies would help.

I’m obsessed with you?  You made 4 comments in the span of just a few minutes to respond to a comment of mine that didn’t even address you.  Anyonw who’s been around Mediaite for a while, knows which one of us is a stalker.

Paul is completely against any draft.  You have no idea what you’re talking about.

I was going to link one of your previous comments but that name was banned.

Newt is as unstable as they come!

Fox and a big chunk of GOP unleashed all they’ve got against Ron Paul. Various people 10 times a day say something very bad against Ron Paul. And all that in the name of democarcy.

Democracy… yeah, rrrrrright.

You’re wrong. Ron Paul has always attributed the attacks on Al Qaeda.
He has consistently said that our flawed interventionist foreign policy results in terrorist attacks in the form of blow back.

MICHELLE WHERE IS THE LINK TO YOUR CONDEMNATION OF CAIN???

MICHELLE, provide me with the link to your comment where you CONDEMN CAIN LIKE YOU SAID YOU WOULD

NO ONE CAN TRUST WHAT YOU SAY UNTIL YOU PROVIDE THAT LINK/CONDEMNATION

yeah we never heard about Clinton’s time in the war (or lack there of)

MichelleinUT, It’s cool when you say you disagree with Ron’s foreign policy, but don’t you even wonder why so many military personal agree with him?  I’m sure you’re aware more donate to his campaign than all other candidates combined including Obama. That goes a long ways with me.  And the only way he exits stage left is when hell freezes over.  I am thankful he is speaking for the middle class.  Newt dodged the VietNam war, Paul didn’t.  So when I see rich people sending poor people to war, I question it.  I wish you would too..

Ron Paul is right that many politicians are chicken-hawks; but creepy jerks like Lindsey Graham & John McCain did “choose to serve”, and how did that work out for us?  Not so well.

“Paul voted for the draft”
Huh?

Conscription ended in December 1972, and the last draftees reported no later than June 1973. 

Meanwhile, Ron Paul was first elected to Congress in November 1976.

WFT R U talking about?

The Donald may run as well!
 LOL

“ I’d love to have his theories on 9/11 being an “inside job” come up in a debate”
That’s only possible in the general – unless of course Romney’s pollsters see a chance to take GOP votes from someone else, OR unless Newt has another one of his “Newt moments”.

Actually, I can see the latter; Newt’s completely reckless in saying whatever pops into that ADD brain of his. Ooo, look at that squirrel … & get a load of the bazoombas on that little chicklet of an aide … man, it’s almost time for my daily b.j. in the anteroom … I wonder if Calista’s gonna wear that new furry outfit tonight … probably time to consider a lecture on whether this finding of the Higgs boson means pulse attacks on the U.S. are more likely … did I forget to take my daily cheap shot at Romney, or did I forget to take my viagra? One or the other … ooo, look, another squirrel …

WOW, a conservative blaming the media, excuse me, lamestream media for bad press. You really need another boogieman to blame every time some republican is exposed for the clown they are.

So I guess the spending choice was between Xmas presents and meds this month and it appears you decided on the presents.

Moosebrain, I think it’s cute that you have deluded yoruself into thinking I care at all what you think. 

MichelleinUT, and I thought that you were Michelle in the University of Tennessee!  You learn something new every day!

MichelleinUT, check it out, but Ron Paul ran as the Libertarian Candidate for President in 1988!

Ron Paul is a freaking idiot, he is embarrasing us

Sounds very sexy to me! “She has strong, aggressive warlike tendencies.  Almost insatiable”  That’s how I like my women!

Ron Paul did support a “draft” of Ronald Reagan in 1976.  That must be what MadCharles is talking about!

You’ve got that right!  The Republican  NeoCons are all ChickenHawks, and it’s the biggest vulnerability for them in elections.Here’s the “ChickenHawk Hall of Fame:http://www.nhgazette.com/chickenhawks/The worst is Mitt Romney, who is on film saying none of his 5 sons would go in the military after 911 because they had more important work in his campaign.He’s a multi-generational, purebred ChickenHawk!When you watch the Republican debates, remember that Ron Paul is the only one who served this Country’s military!__________________________________Chickenhawk Newt With A Cowardly SoulA draft-dodging chickenhawk named NewtWent to great lengths not to be a recruitWhen his last deferment was filedWith his teacher he sired a childAnd gave the military a middle-fingered salute.As soon as the Viet Nam war was doneNewt’s political career had begunThe way he carried onYou’d think he was Gengis Khan’Cause he voted for any war they could fund.That’s how it is with these political trollsIn a fight, you find ‘em hiding in holesNewt, Cheney, and LimbaughCan’t get enough shock n aweBut they $h!+ themselves with cowardly souls!_____________________Charles Ulysses Feney

I agree! Newt has the superior position here. He has every right to cowardly avoid combat while advocating others go in his place to die or be maimed in endless overseas wars that create blowback and are bankrupting us.

Obama served? Really?

don’t have any websites

U should have been around for his campaign

Only you cowards got over Vietnam

which one was the coward your mommy or daddy,, perhaps your uncles or aunts,

Her boy and fellow Mormon,  Romney, sure makes the ChickenHawk hall of Fame on the first ballot.  Five sons and all ChickenHawks.

So all of the toppled dictators, the freeing of Iraq from Sadaam, Osama, etc., you are arguing that was not worth it?

As much as I hate to admit it, it is possible that Obama was doing the CIA’s work in Pakistan in 1980.  He was in the Russian studies department under Zbig at Columbia (allegedly) at that time.

Obama’s grammy and mother were clearly CIA, so it’s very possible that the pineapple didn’t fall far from the tree.

Somewhere, there is probably a picture of Barry Soetoro and Tim Osman with Zbig on the AFPak frontier working with the Mujahids!

Putin is right – McCain is clearly nuts.

The truth will set you free. Too bad it on’t win you an election. I’ve always believed the Mitt and Newt were both pussies. Actually, you can look at the both of them and guess that for a fact. My dad and father-in-law both answered the call in Vietnam. For Mitt and Newt to now want the Presidency is laughable.

Excuse me.. what military did Bill Clinton join?  What military did Barack Obama?  Joe Bite Me Biden?  John Edwards?

That is razor-thin. Sorry, not buying it. No cigar. :OP

Putin is a KGB jerkoff!

Yes, or try tossing in all the Senators and Congress member’s children into the draft lottery.

Iran hasn’t attacked anyone in over 200 years.

Ron Paul didn’t vote for the draft!  He wasn’t even an elected official during the Viet Nam war. He was a doctor in private practice.  He himself was drafted, and served as a flight surgeon for 5 years.  By the way, he would decriminalize what you’re smoking.

Sorry, but the terrorist attacks are the result of evil people that want to destroy everything about us.  Stop making excuses for their terror.  No one said we are perfect, but I have NO respect for people like Paul and liberals that claim we brought it on.  That is why he will never get the nomination.

Oh, I’m sure he will sleep much better knowing that a rancid libtard like you agrees with him.

With ever comment, you show you forgot to take your Beano.

What Newt didn’t draftdodge his way into Canada?He must have been setting with Bush in his plane the whole time………Out on the tarmat in the hot sun both of there brains just baking away……

It wasn’t worth it for us.  It might be good for the people of those countries but we have to pay for it both in lost money and lost lives.  I don’t believe we can continue to finance these dictator toppling operations.  We are almost at a dictatorship point at home in the name of toppling dictators and “fighting terror.” 

I was a HUGE supporter of the wars in the beginning but hindsight being 20/20 I realize that I was wrong.

Your right. I was uninformed. I don’t mind Paul.  He’ll keep everyone on fire if he makes it. but today he said he’s too old for a long campaign.

again your comments provide nothing, you sound like like a typical media person who does not like the fact that a guy like Ron Paul who is not a puppet like you is getting closer in the polls behind the over hyped politicians in Gingrich and the flip flopper expert in Romney. Try not to be so close minded and give someone like Ron Paul who is not a typical puppet politician someone who truly understands the constitution a chance, you might actually feel better, and try posting a comment without using libtard, or son, or that your winning, because when you have to resort to name calling it discredits the point your trying to make. 

You are a thick-headed trog. I have seen skeet with more sense than
you have. You are a few bricks short of a full load, a few cards short
of a full deck, a few bytes short of a full core dump, and a few
chromosomes short of a full human.

Liberals don’t join the military, they trash it. 

really? cause you have two listed in your description.

None of those guys have been in the military, but why I think Ron Paul is calling Newt Gingrich out about it is because Newt is all about the wars going on right now and would want to stay longer but yet when it was Newt’s time to fight for his country he did not want to, but now that he is a politician who can stay in the background acting like a big shot he can send other peoples kids and more soldiers to fight multiple wars.

This article is misleading, Ron Paul is not trashing Newt Ginrich, he is just politely speaking the truth.

Good post. Well, these things are hard to figure sometimes. We lost several thousand men, spent trillions, etc., but would it have been worse if we just let Sadaam do his thing?

Hell no! She is not Volunteer

True, but every act has some motivation. Right or wrong, the motivation has been the perceived slights and misdeeds of our government. They don’t do what they do simply because they’re “evil”, they do what they do because they are angry at us, and capable of “evil deeds”. You can’t deny that we’ve done some pretty rotten things, going all the way back to the hundreds of treaties with Native American tribes that we’ve broken. Every treaty, every time. So they eventually lash out. Wouldn’t you if treated the same way, lash out? Look at your friend Joseph Smith. He was treated pretty shabbily by the US government, and he eventually lashed out at Mountain Meadows. Is that somehow different?

 So how would you feel if China, or Russia, or Iraq came here to America built a few bases around different cities and got in the middle of America’s business. Would you really be fine with that, do you not think people would get angry and want to do something about it or would we really sit back relax and watch another country come here trying to run things. I have more respect for Ron Paul for clearly thinking things through and not being ignorant to the fact that us being in other countries business is going to have consequences. Ron Paul is not celebrating 9/11 and acting as if it happened because we are a free nation.

Please..  This just goes to show you how low, petty, and pathetic Ron Paul will go.. In the first place, Bill Clinton dodged the Vietnam draft, the exact same way, and he was never penalized for it, as he won 2 terms as President..And secondly, Ron Paul is that the last person who should be talking about sending troops to Vietnam, as a committed Isolationist, Demilitarist, and Appeaser Libertarian, to and of, any issue concerning World International Foreign Affairs, and U.S. National Security, Ron Paul should just stick to his Domestic policy stick, and leave the complex issues of   International Foreign Affairs, fighting wars, rogue dictators, and terrorism, and U.S. National Security, to the credible Presidential leaders of this campaign.

EXC for Ron Paul’s having been associated with the KKK, and his opinions on big govt, exc. where it relates to who marries whom, or what a woman does with her body, I kind of like this guy — at least he’s consistent…. unlike the rest of the GOP flip flopping field.

WHERES YOUR CAIN CONDEMNATION MICHELLE

WE
CANNOT BELIEVE ANYTHING YOU SAY BECAUSE YOU’VE SHOWN THAT YOU GO AGAINST YOUR WORD

ALL OF MEDIAITE NOW KNOWS THAT YOU ARE A LIAR AND SOMEONE WHO GOES AGAINST THEIR WORD

YOU ARE A LYING HYPOCRITE AND YOU WILL BE CALLED OUT ON IT UNTIL YOU ABANDON THIS WEBSITE OR LINK US TO YOUR CAIN CONDEMNATION

Why isn’t he an ELECTED LIBERTARIAN NOW????

Damned anchortwit…..oh I don’t like negative campaigning….there is a difference between negativism and ruthlessly blunt honesty—the kind that has been decades overdue in this country. If you can’t handle it, you stupid dimwit, get out of the media as you are a disgrace to the broadcast industry.

Bamm! Props to Cogressman Paul on that one! That is called a chickenhawk and represents damn near the majority of the Republican party.  http://www.nhgazette.com/display/?id=39

You need to understand what the definition of a “Chickenhawk” is first which is described under the video. That should answer your question.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTAqUwYHnec

Amen to that. Funny thing you mention that because they both have prestigious military backgrounds.  http://www.nhgazette.com/display/?id=39       http://www.nhgazette.com/display/?id=87

Ummmm,,,, make sure to renew your membership the the flat-earther society before their yearly dues go up.

bingo

Yep and he’s fanatic enough to start a draft for his moon mining colony lol!

I think he was bring sarcastic on the CIA stuff man.

Glad that you agree that Joe Sestak, Jim Webb, Patrick Murphy, Al Gore jr., Leon Panetta, Charlie Rangel, John Kerry, Robert F. Kennedy, John F. Kennedy, Sen. Tom Carper, Sen. Bill Nelson, Sen. Daniel Inouye, Sen. Tom Harkin, Sen. Frank Lautenberg, Sen. Jack Reed, Max Cleland, Gen. Wesley Clark, Rep. John Conyers, ETC.,ETC. …..

ARE NOT LIBERALS!

Last I checked, it was ONE dictator, who ruled over the only sectarian Muslim majority nation on Earth.   now there are none.
Osama BinLeaded had nothing to do with Iraq!

The fact that Iran hasn’t had to deal with its only military threat in over 8 years hasn’t exactly helped the U.S. or the world.
 Face it, we had checkers players step up to an international chess game. Who appoints an acedemic (expertise in Russian affairs) as their National Security Advisor?- a decade after the cold war ended???

We got what we voted for (twice), and will be dealing with it for decades.

Since when is telling the truth about someone called “trashing”

Bottom line…Ron Paul is the Only Hope for America. The others are
status Quo and we have been doing it their way for too many years…our
country is broke with their way of thinking and Ron Paul wants us to be a
Strong America Protecting OUR Country and not spending tax payers money
on protecting other countries at our expense…Ron also was the one who
initiated his vote to get Osama bin laden and they had osama in their
sites years before he was killed…Ron Paul brought it to the attention
of America that it was drawn out and for no reason…Ron said we should
have gone in and taken care of business and then get out…and That is
the kind of President that We Need…Not someone who wants to set up
encampments in other countries at Our Expense…that is why I like Ron
Paul…Get in and Get the Job done and then Get Out! Plus Ron has the
Only real plan to bring the U.S. out of bankruptcy…and if we have
another term with obama or someone else who is not focused on the
Economy and our Constitution then maybe the rest of the citizens will
finally realize the dire situation we are in…A Vote for Ron Paul…is a
Vote FOR America! Read more at http://www.RonPaul2012.com and let’s
Wake Up America to a Real Hero…Ron Paul for President of the United
States…YES!

Like I said before, Charles Ulysses Feney, don’t give up your job as sole occupier of your Mom’s basement.

And if and when you do, go and join any branch of the Armed Forces, though it is doubtful that any of them would be willing to engage your services.

And once you realized that even volunteering does not automatically get you into the Armed Forces, you will, hopefully, realize that your elders who did not serve in Viet Nam, did not serve, because they were not drafted.  

And then give full and honest explanation why you never served in either Iraq or Afganistan.

Let’s see now: Nobody has heard about about the Portugese Water Dog of the 0bamas. Anything to hide?

Flip-flop?  Does closing Gitmo mean anything to you?

0bama terminated more jobs in shorter time than any President before him.
 
Not multigrandmother, just one WHITE grandmother who raised this ungrateful punk, who was abandoned by his BLACK father.

The real Wall Street insider was 0bama who gave Wall Street bosses billions of dollars of taxpayers money to bail out their sorry  asses.

Google him.  He was first elected as a Republican in 1976 and President Reagan campaigned for him in his District in 1978.  He ran for the U.S. Senate in 1984 and lost the Republican primary to Phil Graham.  He was out of Congrtess delivering babies from 1984 to 1996, but did run for President as a Libertarian in 1988.  He came back to Congress as a Republican.

What kind of chicken shit government would lie about being attacked in the Gulf of Tonkin,resulting in 65,000 US and 2,000,000 Vietnamese killed.The same government that lied about WMDs,and Iraq being involved in 911.Those that were drafted in Nam didn’t have any choice.those who volunteered in Iraq didn’t either after knowing they were lied too, they couldn’t unvlounteer.The rich and politically connected get a free pass.Next time you’re in walmart think of 2,065,000 who died in vain so that you could buy cheap chinese communist crap.When the chicken hawks start banging their war drums,give them a gun and a uniform, blow 35 psi of patriotic BS up their tailpipe and send them in.

You are living in fantasy land.Do you have ANY idea what our CIA does.If the economic hitman doesn’t succeed then they send in the cia jackalls to assassinate and or start a revolution to change the current dictator.If this doesn’t work they send in the military.Hussain wouldn’t deal with economic hitmen and the jackalls couldn’t assassinate him because of all his body doubles.We have been backing dictators in the middle east for over forty years,who oppress and kill their people.The hijackers, mostly from saudi arabia said they attacked because we built a military base on holy ground in saudi, and that we always back the jews over palistinians,and we don’t mind dropping a bomb or two.Reagan was dubbed the butcher of Nicaragua.The c.i.a. assassinated or overthrew many dictators in cental and south america in the seventies.The good old USA has blood on their hands all over the world,while back home the willfully ignorant aren’t being told anything,except that they are democracy loving, god fearing,patriotic people,and that’s why they hate us.When the rightwing corporate news is spoon feeding you BS you may want to dig a little deeper to find the truth.

That must be the US government your talking about. Johnson lied for sure and with Bush we don’t know for sure yet. There are too many media lies to ever know the truth about Bush.
Either way the people who scream “no more war” like yourself are dangerous to the troops. I knew Johnson lied while in a Vietnam rice paddy. I saw the protest distraction cause death on the ground.
But I still protected villages from slaughter every night. It felt good despite you’re crazy talk that won’t do a damn good. You got what you voted for..

And you served how many years in what branch of the military?

Thank you.  Don’t forget former Senator Bob Kerrey.  He is a certified Liberal.  He is also a former Navy SEAL who won the Medal of Honor in Vietnam.
George McGovern, 1972 Democratic nominee for president and anti-war exemplar, flew 35 bombing raids in a B-24 over Occupied Europe during WWII.  It is noteworthy that many Liberals and anti-war activists served with distinction, and many proponents of continuing war avoided service.

Ron Paul IS psychotic and should only be President in the Psychiatric Ward.

FYI, I am a retired US Military person, who served 20 years in the US Air Force..  as well as 8 years as a civilian US govt contractor in the Middle East, after 911..  as well as assisted in helping the wounded children of terrorist attacks over there..

And you, what have you done for someone else, let alone for your country, besides yourself.. 

I believe in the principle of actions speak louder than words, leading by example, and never asking anyone to do anything that you would not do, and or, are not willing to do yourself..  and not monday morning arm chair quarter backing..

Regular Army, joined.  Volunteered for 2 tours in RVN as a combat engineer, ’66-’67 and ’69-’70.  Cu Chi, Loc Ninh, Tien Phuoc, Phu Loi, Fat City.  6 years total active duty, 10 years in the reserves.  100% disability PTSD.
Bill Clinton didn’t make an aggressive military posture a centerpiece of his campaign.  Lots of Republican politicians are chickenhawks (I do not include President Bush 43; flying high performance aircraft is a high risk occupation), like VP Cheney, Newt Gingrich (service age Vietnam, multiple deferments), Mitt Romney (service age Vietnam, multiple deferments), Rick Santorum (no military service).  Dr Paul was drafted, served his time.
Doctor Paul just wants for the USA to mind its own business, not try to be the world’s policeman.  I don’t know if his stats about the USA having 900 bases in 138 countries is precise, but I doubt it is far off.  He is certainly correct that it is bankrupting the USA to keep up such an aggressive military posture.

As a fellow veteran, would agree that the world is a dangerous place, and that the Neville Chamberlain appeasement approach, to world international affairs issues, let alone wars, that ultimately either directly, or indirectly, affects us all, is wrong.

I would hope you would thinak so.. Now if we were Liechtenstein, or some other small European country, and not the world’s major Democratically Free superwpower, I would say yes, and agree with Ron Paul and you, but we are not..  and like Nazi Germany and Hitler, appeasement and doing nothing, but living in the 1920′s with your head stuck in the sand, only made it worse, and ended in deaths of 100 Million lives in a world war..

Glad you brought up their great heroic service to the U.S. Probably two of the best examples of “leftists” who fought with great distinction for our country. I was negligent and forgetful in omitting their names.

Another (much) lesser example would be Gov. Jesse Ventura (Navy SEAL/BUDS) Although not classically liberal, he never declined to admonish the chickenhawks for the self serving cowards and hypocrites they are.   I’ll overlook that he became a bit of a Truther more recently.

In a word.. NO…at least for the U.S. as a nation and a people. Sadaam’s Iraq posed no threat to any people aside from his own. Of course that’s hindsight now, but when EVERY claim of military/terror threat used by Bush/Cheney proved to be farcical , it’s apparent that we were lied to as a nation-citizens & elected lawmakers alike. Bush and  Cheney did nothing less than commit treason. -To say nothing of war crimes

In my atheistic heart I really hope that there is a reckoning in the afterlife. I would honestly sleep better every night if I knew that those two would  eventually burn in hell.

Graham…DEFINITELY creepy. McCain? I cant concur. Maybe in his old age(last 6? years). If you are creeped by his zombie posture, remember how he acquired it.
 I hate to beat a dead horse, but if McCain (or President-Elect Gore) had won in 2000, 9/11/01 may well have been prevented. Richard Clarke tells a damn disgusting and seemingly accurate tale, especially for a non-partisan.

Jesse Ventura is kind of a flake, but he’s MY kind of flake.  You get what Jesse is REALLY thinking, every time, though maybe with some rhetorical flourishes.

The world is indeed a dangerous place.  However, I don’t think it becomes any less dangerous if we try to police it.  I see no need to have troops sitting in bases all over the world, vulnerable to attack by any group with access to some fertilizer ans a farm truck, or a lone gunman with a handgun and a moped.
Some facts:
1)  Ron Paul has regularly received more contributions from active duty US military than all other Republicans combined.
http://www.ronpaul2012.com/2011/10/18/ron-paul-campaign-tops-others-in-q3-active-military-donations/
2)  Ron Paul has been caricatured as isolationist in the press, but this is incorrect.  For the official Paul positions, check out his campaign web page:
http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/national-defense/

Rick Perry and Ron Paul  served in the USAF. 

Lots of luck with that one. It ain’t going to happen.

Apparently you wern’t around during the cold war when there was a real threat from the Soviet Union which had thousands of ICBM’s, submarines and aircraft and still do. The Soviets threatened to bury the U.S. but cooler heads prevailed and war was averted. Now many people are paranoid over Iran getting nuclear power, why ? There are 8 or 9 countries that have nuclear weapons already and Iran is surrounded by them. Ron Paul is the only candidate that has any common sense and will lead this nation back to prosperity and respect. You don’t get respect by killing people of other nations or occupying their country. Go back and play your war games where real people don’t suffer, get killed and their kids hate us and become terrorist. America would be far better off if we just minded our own business and stopped meddleing in other nations affairs. The only reason we are in the middle east is because of oil. If our government would stop interfearing with the oil companies and issue permits we wouldn’t need oil from the middle east. Most of our imported oil comes from Canada anyway and we wolud have much more if Obama didn’t freeze the construction of the oil pipeline. Our worst enemy is our own government.

Ron Paul was drafted into the military, but didn’t apply for a deferment, he served honorably as he has done in congress. Very few rich kids ever serve their country, at least in my outfit anyway.

Well, I do not care about what others say about Ron Paul, I only care about what Ron Paul says himself, about his dangerously naive appeasement attitude towards Iran is.. He exhibits the same attitude towards Iran, that Neville Chamberlain did to Hitler, as it only led to the deaths of 50 million people in Europe during WWII, which would never have started if France and Germany had taken a more Militarily hard line with Hitler, before ad the ability to wage a world war.

Of course, the US should never have waged a war with Vietnam  and Iraq either, they were both mistakes, and I will never approve of going to war, for any other reason, than to defend America and our allies, and only concrete evidence of the their attacks..  Now the difference with Iran is that they want to wage a nuclear holocaust on Israel, as well as the US, and that cannot be allowed to happen, before it happens, as the cost of live would to too great afterwards..

as far the military bases around the world goes, they are there  to serve several purposes.. one is to maintain their US allied support and security, under the SOFA agreements, and two is for the US to extend and project it’s military capabilities in so that we will not have to stretch out our logistics of war readiness, when the time and need arises.. among many other reasons.

Now, with that being said, President Ronald Reagan has proven that the U.S. can maintain it’s global defense, and still afford it, when Democratic Free Market Enterprise called Capitalism, is allowed to flourish, (without massive govt. interference of over regulations, and intentional internal sabotage that we see from Obama), which then creates wealth and prosperity,. which ensures the US govt gets it much need private sector revenue, to provide for the common good, general welfare, and defense of the Nation.

Why do you keep running that old claim that rich kids didn’t serve? They volunteered you fool. Only 1/3 of Vietnam Vets were drafted – the remainder were the draftees.

As for Ron Paul, he is being very disingenuous. He did not risk going in-country during the Vietnam War and he did not volunteer to return. His attacks are very hypocritical and as a retired officer who has studied the geo-political landscape I see right through him. He was a doctor – not a combat officer.

We are not getting oil from Iraq – China and
Indonesia have those contracts. Ron Paul is a loon – accept it, we cannot back
all the way out yet neither do we need to directly assault Iran. They are
manufacturing the IED’s being used in Iraq & Afghanistan as well as sending
raiding parties into both countries.

If they wish to fight covertly; we counter covertly. As their troops cross the
border we execute them to the last man and bury the evidence – after all they
must be spies in violation of the Geneva Convention. If they grab people from
this side of the border, we seize scientists/politicians from their side. They
escalate, we foster unrest inside their borders against the mullahs. This is
warfare, it isn’t pretty, it sure as hell is PC, and the politicians should
just get the hell out of the way and let us do our jobs.

WWI & WWII involved continents and both were over in 4 years. Our
technology was much greater but we were shackled by restriction about not
destroying certain building even if enemy fire was coming from the structure.
This is not combat – this is insanity & it gets people killed. When you
‘let slip the dogs of war’ you don’t then yell bad dog when they effectively do
what they are trained to do: Kill the bad guys and liberate the innocent civilians.
   

We are not getting oil from Iraq or China, no skit ! Our major oil supplier is Canada and if the Keystone Pipeline isn’t built soon, Canada threatened to sell it’s oil to China. We are no longer in Iraq and we shouldn’t have been there in the first place, we were lied to by the Bush administration. The same holds true for Afghanistan, we went there to get Bin Laden and destroy the Al qaeda training bases. We did that quickly and Osama is dead, but we are still there, why ?  We didn’t go there to fight the Taliban and destroy their country also. The Afghan president is double dealing with the U.S. and the Taliban and making a fool out of the U.S. and taking our money. Our biggest mistakes were invading Iraq and Afghanistan, all we have to show for it is dead American military and an economy on the skids. Bush & Obama have ruined our country by not minding their own business and getting involved in other nations affairs. Neither Iran, Iraq or Afghanistan were ever a threat to the U.S. None ever had the capability to be a threat to the U.S. If you ever served in the military, you wouldn’t be saying the things you have.

Dr.Ron Paul was also drafted and served in the USAF. Ron Paul delivered babies, he didn’t kill them. The VietNam war was misguided, we should never been there, it was a civil war which we never should have been involved in. The problem is we elect politicans that never served and and don’t care about our troops, they have no idea what war is like up close.

Why don’t you go and join the Marines, maybe they can make a man out of you, then again maybe not.

Every action has a reaction. Think before you act. The only politician that fits that description is Ron Paul.

Vietnam was started by Democrat pres LBJ’s lie so he could get a 300 mill Huey Helicopter stock payout. All war is misguided but necessary. Vietnam was the once the highest  level of corruption a Democrat President offered until Obama.
Vietnam was not a civil war. We fought the Chinese, Russians & others. I know I killed them as they attacked the defenseless villages during the night.
I was proud and rewarded with humanity as I sat in the darkest night quietly waiting to prevent the carnage that would take place if I wasn’t there. We’d hump the mountains all day to get in position to prevent the elders from being murdered, kids raped then slaughtered and the kidnapping of every mail seven to twenty-one.

Missourimule; the only ones over Vietnam are the ignorant..

Clinton was conviently studying at Cambridge University in England during the VietNam war and made several trips to Moscow. The Russians and China were supplying  North Vietnam with missiles to shoot down our aircraft at that time. Clinton was not only a traitor & draft dodger, he was a pervert.

The only draft you are concerned with is at your corner bar.

Remember Howard Cosell ? Tell it like it is. That’s Ron Paul, you may not like it, but he tells it like it is. You can’t change history, but you can make sure it doesn’t happen again. 

I think you should look up the term sarcasm and irony, then re-read my post. So thank you for proving my point.

Also, when did Obama dodge the draft???

There is no sense in communicating with you .

None of the snarkiness you just carpet bombed Charles with contradicts any of the valid points he made.