Maddow taking people to task on factual accuracy is like taking in a literacy seminar from Snooki.

She is funny- but not in the way she thinks she is.

Hmmmm, high level talks with the Chinese, are they like the ones that Clinton did to get money from the Chi Coms to get money for his campaign in exchange for missile secrets?

How many of these deals has Obama committed? Well, we find out he has high level connections with Muslim clerics that he will not disclose on his Ramadan celebrations. What are we to think? I mean, the leftist media attacks Rick Perry for having a Christian get together but the same media covers NOTHING on Obama having his Muslim get togethers. Oh wait! Obama is not Muslim or something, he just stated he would back the Islamic takeover of the world if things turned against the Muslims.

Geez, I am sorry, am I not supposed to listen to his own words? And you leftists continue to carry water, oh well, I must be one of those simple folk that take people at their word. I do not know that whole what is a lie and what is a truth from a lying sack of shart yet language.

Maybe you leftists could teach me the whole progressive verbiage on political lying and rhetoric.

I’m kinda surprised Mediaite hasn’t posted anything yet about Steve Harvey calling Tavis Smiley and Cornell West “monkeys” and “Uncle Toms”.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-boyce-watkins/steve-harvey-uncle-tom-cornel-tavis_b_924247.html

Someone posing as a fact checker who so frequently comes up wrong or lying on the fact check meter is amusing. I won’t bother with checking her facts, someone will do it soon enough and I’ll read about it.
It would probably be easier for her to be believed if she weren’t so snarky all the time.

Isn’t that “the pot calling the kettle black”?

Glad Rachel is out there actually calling these liars out.

Yeah! Because there aren’t enough leftists in the media doing that:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/anderson-cooper-fact-checks-rick-perrys-record-in-anticipation-of-his-presidential-candidacy/

My God! I just realized what this is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LSDNC is using Sesame Street verbiage to talk with their viewers!

Conjuction juction, what’s your function! Is this what they have to do to communicate with their viewing audience? Has the US school system made their useful idiots sooo stupid that they have to talk with them like they are kindergartners? WOW!

LSDNC? You listen to Mark Levin all the time, huh? Even while you’re making love for 2 minutes to your wife.

It’s pretty nasty sh*t, that’s for sure. Even the Black community is fracturing over Obama.

It’s like watching Air America.

2 minutes!!!!!!!!!!??? That is like 119 seconds toooooo long, I am a right wing, bomb thrower, Taliban like, terrorist, extremist, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, so I am in it for me right! I got off, you? No?, who cares then!

Levin has NOTHING on me baby!:Mark is alright, but he is too nice in my opinion! Hehehehehehe! He is a lawyer, he has to keep his rhetoric in the realm, me, I just call ignorant people like you morons. Because it is the truth. You been holding onto your 401k? Me, I withdrew it all in 2006 and put it all in PMs and other commodities. How bout you, how is your government retirement holding up, about 5% of what it was? I mean, if you are a pensioner for the government, you will have to talk the rest of us to come up with the other 95% of your retirement.

Hmmmmm, if I was a public union or government retiree, I would begin to think that just MAYBE I will not be getting my pension. There are now numerous government entities filing bankruptcy. They are resituating their debts, what is their biggest ones by the way? Do you actually think that California will be able to raise their income and property taxes 100% to fund the public union and others in government? Do you ACTUALLY think that is sustainable?

Come on………..do not pick on Snooki when talking about Maddow, at least Snooki has boobs, as for Maddow, what does she have? She does have an elitist education that made her dumber than Snooki.

It just shows how much Republicans lie!!  Thanks Rachel for showing people how much Republicans lie.

That’s your natural hair color isn’t it?

That is like saying Baghdad Bob showed us how much Americans lie. 

and David’s Education has reduced him to slagging people at midnight on a friday night instead of getting laid.

wow. DavidKramer is worse than an old white person.

why is DavidKramer a crybaby?

why won’t DavidKramer put forward the idea that california stop paying out monies to redstates.?

I think you misunderstood, Rachel is not on Fox news where they’re trained to lie.  

I can’t see how any of what Kramer said would have called for injecting race into the conversation. As a matter of fact, nothing calls for a racist statement.

Let me ask you, are you looking for something? Are you looking for meaning to your life? Me, not so much. I exist…….therefore I am. How bout you, why is it that you felt you had to communicate with ME? Did I trip a trigger? Did I trip a thought?

What is it that I said that made you mad? That I made fun of snooki or that I made fun of someone more idiotic?

Snooki engages in the idiocy of her world, she should not be denigrated for her selfish attitude. She only wants what she has been promised by the world she lives in. Greed, lust, sloth, gluttony, wrath, envy, and pride. The seven sins that will not be forgiven. They would be……..if we only ask to be forgiven.

I suffer from pride, I am only human. Wrath, I will never allow anyone to suffer in mine eyes, but who am I? We are all but human. What can we do? We can attempt to make a difference in those we meet. What have you done? I will help anyone that asks me. I will help anyone that only asks.

Me, I already know that I must suffer for my anger and righteousness. That is what purgatory is all about. Sins are forgiveable, idiocy and hate is not.

I should not of said what I did, I was being an arse, he was right. Actually, the night and the slagging is incorrect, but that is ignorance, not malice.

Do not defend those you do not know, but I appreciate your attempt.

I think I am a little freaked, currently watching Constantine. Always gets me all religious.

Listening to Mr. Maddow lecture anyone about the truth is akin to asking a slaveowner to denounce the South during the Civil War.

No, Mr. Maddow is on MSNBC, which stands for “More
Snotty Nonsense By Cretins.”

Thank Mr. Maddow for me, too.

Let him shave his facial hair before going on tv again, please.

It beats you making love to your mother for the past 20 years.

So. Every one of her examples given here is a lie?

All I see is a bunch of dumbass personal (mostly homophobic) attacks against Rachel. Would anyone care to discuss the part where she showed Herman Cain saying he never said communities have the right to ban mosques, followed immediately by a clip of Herman Cain saying communities have the right to ban mosques.  He made the statement to Chris Wallace and Wallace asked him about it using quotes. Wallace prepared this question for the debate by reviewing his interview with Cain and read the quote specifically for Cain.  Wallace KNOWS Cain is telling a lie so why didn’t Chris Wallace call Herman out on his lie?  Without resorting to personally attacking Rachel can any of you republicans,conservatives, or tea partiers deny that Rachel caught Cain in a lie.  Can any of you watch the video and dispute Rachel’s facts,especially the one about Cain when there is video proof right here on this page that Cain lied?  Can one of you,just once in the history of Mediaite, admit a republican lied.

Saddled with an inept, disastrous ‘Boy’ that she helped become president, Maddow and all the other incompetent Leftist media hacks at MSNBC feverishly try to deflect attention any way possible.

“Maddow seemed full of gleeful exuberance throughout the whole segment ”

is she incapable of acting like an adult? Name one Democratic debate that has been 100% factual.
http://tinyurl.com/3n5l2j4

Fine, fact check them Maddow. Nothing wrong with fact checking. But, come on. Grow the hello up.  

Couldn’t have said it better myself!

Couldn’t have said it better myself!

She’s on MSNBC where it comes naturally.

She’s on MSNBC where it comes naturally.

I think the gleeful exuberance is in knowing that for the next several months the republicans will be picking each other off. Her glee is Rush’s lament.

All politicians lie, you moron.

why won’t DavidKramer put forward the idea that california stop paying out monies to redstates.?

I thought liberals always wanted to help the “less fortunate”.

“Pawlenty accidentally referred to Admiral Mike Mullen, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, as “General Mullen.”

Obama flubs the name of his own daughter, his favorite ballpark, a Medal of Honor recipient, his secretary of defense, the soldiers name on his bracelet, where he met his wife, what year it is, even when his own birthday is…. I wonder how many of those stories Maddow covered.

Fact check this , baby . Have the oceans stopped rising ? Has the planet healed ?

The incompetent Big Wind from Chicago was unleashed upon the planet by the media and now a lot of them regret it .

“…from the Washington Post, is Richard Cohen: “He is the very personification of cognitive dissonance—the gap between what we (especially liberals) expected of the first serious African American presidential candidate and the man he in fact is.” More amazingly yet Mr. Cohen goes on to say of Mr. Obama, who not long ago was almost universally hailed as the greatest orator since Pericles, that he lacks even “the rhetorical qualities of the old-time black politicians.” And to compound the amazement, Mr. Cohen tells us that he cannot even “recall a soaring passage from a speech.”
Overseas it is the same refrain. Everywhere in the world, we read in Germany’s Der Spiegel, not only are the hopes ignited by Mr. Obama being dashed, but his “weakness is a problem for the entire global economy.”
In short, the spell that Mr. Obama once cast—a spell so powerful that instead of ridiculing him when he boasted that he would cause “the oceans to stop rising and the planet to heal,” all of liberaldom fell into a delirious swoon—has now been broken by its traumatic realization that he is neither the “god” Newsweek in all seriousness declared him to be nor even a messianic deliverer. ”

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903918104576502093021646166.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop
  

Mr. Maddow must really hate HIS Father.

Obama flubs the name of his own daughter, his favorite ballpark, a Medal of Honor recipient, his secretary of defense, the soldiers name on his bracelet, where he met his wife, what year it is, even when his own birthday is…. I wonder how many of those stories Maddow covered.

Wow, so clever.

that sounds familiar….

That is just so gay.

Oh my, Rachel dissing republicans…..how unusual. 

She is such a bore; no wonder her viewership is diminishing daily.  Step out of the box Rachel, expand your horizons, stop reading the DNC talking points on the air, grow up.  MSNBC – boring.

Sure..Now do we get to ask you to defend Obama’s policies, record and overall incompetence without deflecting and blaming everyone else.

I have one question for madcow when she fell down the ugly tree why did you climb back up the tree again you can only get so damn ugly before you get brain damage.

“from the Washington Post, is Richard Cohen: “He is the very personification of cognitive dissonance—the gap between what we (especially liberals) expected of the first serious African American presidential candidate”

So Al Sharpton wasn’t a serius African American candidate?  Hey Tommy..get the whistle

I think we can tell the difference between “gleeful exuberance” and sarcastic high school level banter.

Not to worry, Obama will be picking himself off..

why do you ask stupid questions. why do you exist. why do I care.i don’t

oh yes, your media has referred to Obama’s lies as “misspeak” lol

You want to have a contest as to who’s the better liar?  Hell, you might not be able to get out of bed for a week.

She is snarky all the time.  Her sneer is so childlike (or childish) that it begs the question – When the hell is she going to grow up?

She does realize the intelligence level of her audience and produces signage most appropriate. 

…and you were here to witness it.  lol  

Fact checking Maddow is a full time job. Poor Rach is having a hard time getting close to a million viewers most nights since she signed her new deal. Buyers remorse should be setting in soon for MSNBC. LOL.

Do you know what was the most successful part of the “Cash for Clunkers” program?

It got 90% of the Obama stickers off the road! 

LOL

Most of this stuff is opinion, and the headline here on Mediaite is simply a lie. In addition, when Maddow points out how dumb 57 states or the pronunciation of “corpsman” is, I’ll take him seriously. Until then, he’s simply a shill, and not a very good one at that.

A full time job, eh? Something with which you have very little acquaintance.

With regard to ratings, Rachel regularly tops her time slot and pulls in even better among the highly desirable 25-54 demo. All cable services have seen a slump lately, but outdoing your competion still remains the measure of success.

Given your post, I’d say that your screen name earns today’s Irony Award.

Can I suggest “Dumb Cluck,” “Moron,” “Jerkwater,” or “Snot” as more apt choices?

None, I’d suspect, because as a sentient human, she recognizes them as utterly meaningless.

The Santorum bit was taken from the middle of a fact-free rant of his about the number of American servicemen killed by Iranians (with whom we’re apparently at war, in Santorumworld) in Afghanistan and Iraq.

The stumble over “Afghanistanis” wasn’t significant, but the crazed rant was.

I swear, half the posters on Mediaite must be twelve years old.

(Not meant to be an insult to most young people of that age.)

Such a bummer when someone steals your best talking points. They’re not that easy to come by!

Inescapable wisdom from Washington’s #1 Hack. I guess Obama had better pack it in if “World’s Worst Writer” (per Wonkette) Richard Cohen is dissing him.

Rachel regularly tops her time slot????????? WHEN?

“The Ultimate Sleeper.”  

A new book, soon to be a movie about a young Muslim boy, who from birth was trained to think and be Muslim, while at the same time live and be immersed in American and western culture.

The young man is exposed to Marxist Philosophy as well the Koran and Muhammed’s teachings.  The young man is quietly introduced to Marxist mentor’s and then, by way of legerdemain, enters various schools and Universities, becoming a Lawyer.  Being half African American, half White, he and his handlers cleverly play on the quirks of the American Liberal establishment. (guilt)  The man is elected to office and ultimately becomes President.  See it to believe it!

“THE ULTIMATE SLEEPER”  coming soon to a theater near you!  Then… next year, “SLEEPER II, the re-education camps”  

You saw the movie, now see the video, Obama’s back and he’s mad. Coming soon….

Conjunction junction (not ‘conjuction juction’) is actually one of the Schoolhouse rock segments, not from Sesame street.  Schoolhouse rock aired during the 70′s, so obviously the audience for it would be adults now.

HAH!  I get it!  Because she is a lesbian, she is not a female.

So what did Maddow say in this segment that was false?

You misstate his position. A true Maddow disciplle.

Noone has said that she is wrong, her critics on this board simply say, “how dare she point out GOP lies” or “She is so gay” or “She sounds childish.” My question however is is she telling the truth? Yes.

It is true that political debates as we conduct them in the US are often filled with mistakes, excessive spin, and lies — Democratic and Republican alike. Doesn’t mean that it isn’t news and commentators shouldn’t comment on it.

With regard of the Maddow-Sirota criticism of the McCain-Obama debate, I really don’t get your objection. Can you point to three errors that Obama made in that debate? I googled it quickly and didn’t come up with anything — although he probably did (it’s the nature of political speech).

The biggest objection you seem to have is Sirota’s exegis on how silly attributing the financial crisis of 2008 to spending was. You may think that makes you a prophet in reverse, but the fact of the matter is that the crisis was not caused by excessive government spending. It was caused by the collapse of confidence in financial institutions that had been engaging in wildly reckless practices which finally caught up with them. Government spending was irrelevant.

And in fact, it’s kind of irrelevant now, notwithstanding all the lies and zealotry surrounding the issue. What we have now is a jobs crisis, not a spending crisis, and spending cuts right now are guaranteed to make things worse.

Actually, no, I don’t think you can.

Don’t care if he’s a lesbian. Also, the first part of the clip took Herman Cain out of context, so I didn’t really need to see the rest of it. Maddow is a liar and a shill, ’nuff said.

Like she took the messiah to task over the this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws

How many times has Rick had to apologize for his/her/it’s “Fact checker team’s” failures to actually check the facts?

Each and every one of them. If you were an American, you’d know that. We really don’t need news and commentary through an Italian filter. Go take care of your own problems.

Excuse me, but your “hey, look over there” ploy is pretty lame.

Pay attention. Given: Hermann Cain is a liar and a bigot. Discuss.

No, Tumbleweed is the most proficient Googler and cut and paste gal in all of cyverspace. Wikipedia is her home.

In fariness, Gordon Blowershow is not responsible the demise of his Portage, Indiana, cable access show. He was simply ill-informed, inarticulate and boring an no one watched him. He had nothing to do with that.

Speaking of trained, barking liars….

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2011/02/23/rachel-maddow-lies-leno-about-republican-political-contribution

Her? That needs a fact check….

Reading homophobic posters lecture anyone about the truth is akin to asking slime mold to swear off living on bark.

Should’ve said “it’s” father!

Like the eloquent reverand al… Resist we much! Hey… I meant that because I set a trap for the stupid Limbaugh, and he fell for it, and I need my bullhorn…. Freddies Fashion Mart? Tawana Brawley… All set ups too.

It’s a cultural reference. I realize that you don’t do cultural references, but many people do.

But the fact that your life is drab and wretched is not a very good argument for anyone else following your path.

Maybe she’s a he. It’s not truthful about much.

Nah, you’re no bomb thrower, just a garden-variety jackass.

Anderson Cooper is a “leftist?”

Wow. You need another hobby. This posting on message boards thing is just not your long suit.

So, according to Svetlana, bagging sacks a la Barney Frank makes him male? And what exactly, does Mr. Frank and Beans tell the truth about? Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae? How’s that working out for the housing market?

I’m predicting ticket sales roughly equal to “The Undefeated.” Or maybe “Atlas Shrugged.”

I wonder if RM has EVER topped Hannity in the demo. You might find a time or so – maybe when Sean had a sub. But RM is consistently second (and occasionally third) in the demo. She is always second to Hannity in total viewers and can’t even claim to ever being close.

The same is true for her repeat against Hannity. However, in the repeat she is consistently third in both the demo and totals!

First quarter 2011.

Maddow’s father must be so ashamed of his son.  

I guess that is why the parents refuse any and all interviews.

Well, to be fair to Gordo, being a Renaissance Man and all is quite fatiguing. It really doesn’t leave much time for reflection, earning a living, or changing your underwear more often than every other week.

Maddow’s is King of out of context quotes.

Sorry, I have a lower IQ limit for anyone admitted to my Rhetorical Lying seminars, and based on your samples posted here, you don’t meet the requirements.

I love how Rachel is able to get under the skin of the Teabaggers here.

But, but, but – she’s gay, and has bad ratings, and blah blah blah.

Quoting Chris Matthews: HA!

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/q1-2011-cable-network-and-program-rankers_b59917

Above is first quarter 2011 for cable news shows:
In the demo: Hannity is second, RM is eleventh.
In total viewers: Hannity is second, RM is thirteenth.

RM is the highest rated show on MSNBC. But that is all and that is not saying much!

Mea culpa. I misread the article, and you’re right: Maddow doesn’t beat Hannity, although she often polls second after his show.

false

RM is the undisputed leader on MSNBC since the departure of Olbermann. That is probably what you were thinking of. I linked to first quarter 2011 below.

I don’t think so. This is all very much like the lead up to Lincoln’s second term re-election.

Certainly there is some of that, but that makes it fun.

Yes I agree that things are getting bad when the “black community” starts attacking it’s own people.  Even though I know that the “black community” rallied together in voting for Obama, I hoped that after he was elected that race relations in the US would start to improve.  Sadly though, that did not happen as now the racial divide seems to be greater than it has been in over 100 years. 

Rachel Maddow wouldn’t know the truth if it jumped up and bit her in the ass.  She gets a lot of her information from “MediaMatters.org” who twists the facts to meet their agenda.

OUCH!

Iran has been arming, training, providing safe passage through their borders for terrorists for years.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=1003&bih=622&q=US+troops+killed+by+iranian+weapons&btnG=Google+Search&oq=US+troops+killed+by+iranian+weapons&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=s&gs_upl=2838l13945l0l15833l35l35l0l20l20l0l281l3073l0.6.9l15l0

Sending in the Revolutionary Guard to both war fronts to kill our troops as well as all the high tech weaponry has certainly killed a high number of American and coalition troops.  Where in the hell have you been?

Still going on and will continue whether we are there or not because the world chooses not to deal effectively with Iran:

http://www.thecypresstimes.com/article/News/World_News/TALIBAN_CHIEF_ABDUL_RAHMAN_KILLED_BY_US_LED_FORCE/48947

SVETLANA, you pose an interesting question.  

In order to be a Man or Woman, in total, is it necessary as the final piece of the sexual maturity puzzle, require that the Man or Woman, copulate with the opposite sex, in order to complete the definition and realization of “Man,” or, “Woman?”

After all, we do have words that denote Men and Women who do NOT copulate with the opposite sex.  By that very necessity, is such a tacit, societal acceptance that Gay and Lesbians are not complete “men” and “women?”

You ask great questions SVETLANA.  I am going to think about this.

her audience is anything but diminishing

it’s actually true

alas, conservatives and art simply don’t mix

I made a joke here yesterday about the MSNBC equivalent of the Republican debates, in which each candidate would be attacked and ridiculed in turn, with minimal presentation of their actual views.  Rachel Maddow turned my joke into reality.  She often turns jokes into reality on her show.  

precisely!

darla, its false, hannity beats her…plain as day

hannity is always in first, but maddow is always second

and on fridays, she’s within 20,000 viewers

that’s because during the week, educated people don’t watch television
they read books and cook healthy meals

George Carlin -”Who Really Controls America”
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYIC0eZYEtI&feature=related

a nuanced understanding of gender on a mediate comments thread?!

it hurts when republicans are criticized, doesn’t it?

after, politics is a team sport, and your team just got eviscerated.

and maddow barely breaks a sweat.

that’s gotta hurt.

I love how stories on Rachel Maddow puts the homophobe right wingers and teabaggers on here into a tizzy.  Keep goin’ at ‘em Rachel!

Saw it. Great job. They can only ‘hope’ to ‘change’ the subject, the Obama failure train has run out of track. Our candidate could be a Koko the monkey and we would still win. 

this person must be 8 years old

Does anyone ever notice that when Maddow has her glasses on she looks pretty much exactly like that Hayes guy who will have a new show on MSNBC?

Though you praise Svetlana for asking a great question you you just went on a sexist tirade and didn’t answer the question.  I’ll repeat it.

So what did Maddow say in this segment that was false? (Which is the topic of the thread)

Funny. Watch this to find out what conservatives ‘really’ think about liberals. Enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c

Truthfully, on my business card, I have a picture of Rodin’s, “Thinker” with “Philosopher” printed across.

After all, I am a Philosopher, that is the intellectual world in which I play, so to speak.

I follow “Dialectic” Philosophy, meaning question and answer, followed by more questions.  Hence I enjoy Plato.  

I like the Libertarian Philosophy of John Stuart Mill.

Of course, I truly love the Philosophy of America’s Founders.

I have been promulgating my own ideas such “Economic Treason” and especially, the Philosophy of “Neutral Principle,” both in a legal and societal context.

Also, I have a, um, er, peculiar sense of humor!  LOL

Thank you Darla. 

Truthfully, on my business card, I have a picture of Rodin’s, “Thinker” with “Philosopher” printed across.

After all, I am a Philosopher, that is the intellectual world in which I play, so to speak.

I follow “Dialectic” Philosophy, meaning question and answer, followed by more questions.  Hence I enjoy Plato.  

I like the Libertarian Philosophy of John Stuart Mill.

Of course, I truly love the Philosophy of America’s Founders.

I have been promulgating my own ideas such “Economic Treason” and especially, the Philosophy of “Neutral Principle,” both in a legal and societal context.

Also, I have a, um, er, peculiar sense of humor!  LOL

Thank you Darla. 

That’s a good thing because Koko is actually one of the republican candidates.

No thanks.  I’m sure it’s ugly and mean spirited enough without my having to watch it.  After all it is the Heritage Foundation which are the very ones Carlin was talking about. 

MSM: GOP Iran War Mongering
So obviously all eyes were turned to the GOP Presidential debate that
took place in Iowa last night, but while it’s worth discussing, it’s
safe to say the mainstream media doesn’t just discuss they obsess. What
about taking a look at our foreign policy and how we’ve been fighting a
10 year war in Afghanistan, we’re still in Iraq; we have drones and
elite teams in Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, and who knows where else. And
here we have another Iran war hawk, Rick Santorum, who basically said
he’s ready to get us involved in another war to make sure that Iran does
not get a nuclear weapon.
http://youtu.be/PXzqxT8bkMs

Probably a good choice, YouTube seems to have destoyed the clip, the voice is now out of sync with the speaker. Here’s a short cartoon version. Prrrr…

exactly darla, hannity is in first……so maddow is not winning…..the statement was false

First, SVETLANA, didn’t ask the question, I did.  I gave her credit for my insight as a way of diminishing her credibility, as the subject was/is touchy!   Also, I could use her as a scapegoat in case I caused a riot with my musings.  Ouch!

As for Maddow’s critique(s):  Point(s) taken.  Apparently, Maddow is correct in her accusations of ‘grievous’ mendacity, exhibited by a number of Republican candidates.

Do these “lies” represent a credibility problem for the candidates?  Are the “lies” pathologic and/or deliberate deception?  Given the ubiquitous video camera, lying has become a death wish for public officials and politicians.  Therefore, I suggest that most of what Maddow pointed out were more likely gaffes, than conspiratorial disinformation?

Lying, by contemporary standards, has more often become associated with the long term and gross promulgation of ideas, philosophies, propaganda and political ideology.  For instance, acting as Democrat while in actuality, imposing Socialism, is “lying.”  Forgetting you said something, is a gaffe.

Of course, you and I have our predispositions.  I suggest such is incumbent on the citizen to decide who is lying, why they are lying and most importantly, the effect or severity of the lie.  Politicians are professional talkers, they need some latitude or they wouldn’t say anything?  Hmm, that is a whole other issue… LOL  

I have to come to Rachel’s defense on this one.I like to think I know or used to know the Maddow’s well enohgh to say, Robert Maddow love’s the hell out of Rachel and is quite proud of her.Soryr but its the truth.

I’m a Conservative/Libertarian/ “teabagger”.Life long native of Castro Valley. 

Why do Maddow’s parents refuse to support their SON in any interview?

Earlier in the thread I asked conservatives to dispute the facts of what Rachel pointed out as lies by the gop candidates (without personal attacks if possible).  Two of the things she pointed out were gaffes “Afghanistanis” and “General Mullen” but the rest were facts. 80 posts later and not one Con,republican, or teabagger can dispute any of the facts she brought up.  In 80 posts several of you have made fun of her looks integrity,sexual orientation,ratings and everything else under the sun but not ONE of you can dispute her facts. I didn’t really expect an answer for Herman Cain’s lie because there is video proof right here on this page of him lying and Chris Wallace made to look like a fool for not calling him out on his lie, but it would have been fun to see at least one of you try.  Republicans…..defend your candidates!  Conservatives….show Rachel where she is wrong! Teabaggers……take the nuts out of your mouth long enough to dispute one of her facts!  Until One of you can dispute any of her facts your all full of $hit.

I’ve come to believe Maddow must assume her audience is a gang of really stupid people, because she’ll take a few facts (not all the facts, just a few) and twist them wildly out of shape.  Since an opinion is just that, when she opines and speculates ad nauseam about her cherry-picked facts, the results she comes to are wildly different than reality on plant Earth.

But her audience (progressives, extremist Dem’s) just love her.  I find her somewhat entertaining, if only that she gets me pissed off with her conclusions and I fear that a bunch of really stupid voters might actually believe her crap.

About the Republican-bashing segment, Mediaite got it right.  Another one of her almost-good segments where she just couldn’t help herself and just had to go wild with a couple of questionabl shots at candidates, and it just clouded the parts of the segment that were accurate.

Poor Rachel.  I think she actually believes what she says.  It’s too bad others do as well.  Kinda like “Maddow ditto-heads,” believing the Maddow/Limbaugh crap without actually thinking about what they say.

He took Cain out of context. I’m not a Cain fan; he’s not a joke by any stretch, but he’s not going to get the nod. Nevertheless, when people take lines out of context, it’s the same as a lie.

Also… We have this gay guy at work. We’re a small business, and aren’t constrained by political correctness. He’s not in our face about his sexuality. We make gay jokes. He makes straight jokes. Nothing well thought out, just passing things about what may have happened to get things done. He’s just one of the guys, we don’t care. Every now and then, he’s referred to as “she” or “her” or whatever. He’s not insulted, and will usually have some sort of snappy comeback. Point is, it doesn’t matter to him, and it usually only matters to people who don’t have a horse in the race.

I jokingly refer to Maddow in the masculine, and only bitter little liberal douchebags who aren’t gay or lesbian even care. Get a life.

I wasn’t defending you as much as calling ‘ono’ on the “old white person” thing.

Can you dispute any of Rachel’s facts? The column,video,thread and post is about Rachel catching and correcting lies by republicans during the debate.  Omit the two gaffes she pointed out and correct any of Rachel’s facts if you can. Waiting……

The problem is that rajahaan insists on using the pronoun he when referring to Ms. Maddow. That might be a typo (which is sometimes induced by the nature of Disqus), but I see it twice in a row. It is not a typo, and raj thinks he is being cute.

That 57 states thing just kills you, doesn’t it.
Oh! The pain! The pain!

Where is the asswipe that writes FACT: in front of all of his bullshit? Let’s see you dispute any of Rachel’s facts.

So. If it is too embarrassing to admit, it is a lie. The proof is there for all to see, and I for one, saw the actual statement that Cain denied on Wednesday. Maddow did catch him at it, and so did others.
You try to destroy HER credibility, but you only destroy your own.

I believe that dude  Maddow got Obama’s testicles.
Certainly more macho….and hairy

Perhaps Cain has modified his position. That would show intelligence, and I do believe Cain has intelligence.

Bravo!

Don’t really care, everyone make stupid mistakes, but the funny part is that he’s supposed  to be so smart. It’s kinda like how when some conservative gets caught cheating or calling on a gay prostitute. Liberals don’t give a shit about the act, but they have fun pointing out the hypocrisy. Obama is flat out stupid, ’nuff said.

ooooh,  your just alittle bomb shell today.  Got any other degrading remarks?  Everyone likes it when a degrading person shows up and writes “alittle”. 

Homes, if you have balls,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txjXBx9-2c0

But I’m guessing you don’t.

You misunderstand that the atheism of Marxism and the deeply religious nature of Islam are incompatible. They are oil and water. They are fire and ice.

Did the Taliban accept the “Marxist” domination of the Soviet Union in Afghanistan? Is any Islamic country or group ruled or led by a Marxist? Is Marxism even visible in any Middle Eastern nation? No.
Since Soviet times, Russia has been at war with Chechens because they are Muslim.

Marx insisted that religion, any religion, is the opiate of the masses because priests and imams teach that man’s reward is in Heaven, not on Earth, and therefore man must passively accept the word of the priests and imams that the king, emperor, or tzar was selected by God. You must have heard of the Divine Right doctrine that kept European kings in power. In Iran today, the leadership is in the hands of the Religious Council, and that is exactly what Marx feared the most.

Before a deviant form of Marxism was introduced to Russia, the common saying was “The sky is too high. The tzar is too far. But the bar is just down the road.” In other words, don’t seek justice from God or the Tzar. Give in and get drunk. (Opium was not available.)

What you really want to look into is the Ba’ath Party. They are the secular, socialist group that has had influence on the Middle East, but you don’t hear about them because that name does not carry the fear factor of Marxism.

No fear factor = ignore as a political motivation. Beck and his ilk did not bother to look into possible Ba’ath connections. Why not? Could it be because it is too much of a stretch to connect Obama and his cohorts to that? Or, was it because the words Communist and Marxist are already ingrained in the conservative mind as the ultimate bogyman?

Should you be proud that you follow the crowd and choose your news source by its ratings?

I believe the highest rated show in that time slot is re-runs of Two and-a-Half Men. What does that tell us?
I’m guessing that political news is NOT the most important thing on the average American’s mind, and news channel ratings are not reliable voter polls.

You are all so mean to rachel…so much good in her…forget her socialist views,just focus on her adorable hair…so cute and cuddly…want a rachel doll for my cats to play with…Oops afraid my cats might rip her up…so sad,so sad….

I am among the first to say that charge and counter-charge about “illegal” or “immoral” fundraising are done by both sides. The clip you link to shows that. Maddow was being biased on that.

However, that is a side issue. You specifically addressed the Cain quote and Maddow’s credibility on that issue. She did have proof and I did see the original statement by Cain that Maddow points out. Her credibility on that point remains sound.

There are no saints on TV. They all have a bit of the devil in them, just like politicians.

Excuse me!  Pick on your Negro friends and leave us old white persons alone.  We are very nice until you piss us off.

Excuse me!  Pick on your Negro friends and leave us old white persons alone.  We are very nice until you piss us off.

To Devils_Spawn below: I never said anything other than that Hannity was number one in the time slot for CABLE NEWS.

I never even so much as hinted that news channel ratings were “reliable voter polls”. You pulled that out of thin air. Maybe someone else said it on this thread, but it was certainly not me!

Rajahaan,
You need to understand two things that you don’t have a clue about:
1. Lesbians are female, not male.  Male lesbians are called “men”.
2. Obama’s gaffe is not miscounting so much as misspeaking ‘fifty’ when he should have said ‘forty’ and is obviously a result of exhaustion from non-stop campaigning.  Obviously you need *something* to nitpick because you believe the the POTUS controls everything, and you are seething with hatred and bigotry.  I feel sorry for you.

You still haven’t refuted one single word of truth that Rachel Maddow has said.

I think the Devil has you on that one!

You didn’t look very hard.
http://factcheck.org/2008/09/factchecking-debate-no-1/

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=6043298&page=1

I laughed because Maddow called it a McCain and Obama fact checking segment and they ignored the fibs from Obama. 

“The reason we’re in a financial crisis is because there’s too much government spending.”  Spending is irrelevant? Oh really? So, all that spending Bush did is irrelevant? Then why all the finger pointing at bush that we are in debt now? Sorry, but I call BS. When the government was bailing out the banks it was a major issue because the government was already way in debt – because of  years of out of control spending. 

“Doesn’t mean that it isn’t news and commentators shouldn’t comment on it.” – which is why I said, “nothing wrong with fact checking”

So, has rrk called you “not an American” yet? he loves to do that, apparently, with expats. 

yea, sure she did. 

you are my one and only problem. 

I did, see below

Mr. Maddow cannot tell the truth. Even when he tells the truth, it is based on lies.

Homes, you are a troubled case. The “potus” cant even control his old lady, let alone anything else. He would love to, being a commie pig, but the fact that he’s constrained by The Constitution that he hates is sorta funny, actually. What’s even funnier is a no name little douchebag like you running interference for his stupidity.

Having a complete bottom feeder like yourself lecture anyone about slime mold is akin to a piece of shit in the toilet asking the asshole to finally hit the plunger.

I would say that Mr. Maddow has his tongue up Obama’s ass, but liberals get upset when you say things that imply that people who who are openly gay may be gay after all.

I don’t want to cast any aspersions here, but Mr. Maddow says he is a gay, so if I say he is gay liberals might call me names, like a homophobe, or some other name they like to throw at people.

Calling Rachel gay is not what reveals you to the world as a homophobe and a fool. It’s the other words you try to make into sentences around the word “gay.”

You may need counselling to help you come to grips with the fact that you’re a fool and a homophobe. Sadly, many other people are too, and — with the proper support from counsellors, friends and family (if present) — can still lead productive lives.

I think it’s because — as you imply in your post — they don’t have to struggle with the rather sad issues that a person like RESIST WE MUCH does, and can simply see their daughter for what she is: a loving human being, smart as a whip, and hugely successful in a very competitive field.

To sane people, that equals “what’s not to love?”

Curious. Where in the Constitution does it speak to the control a president has over the first lady, or for that matter, that a man has over his wife?

And where in Das Kapital does it specify how commies are supposed to do the same?

Raj, you’re full of shit.

Lovely. Here’re two things that you consider equivalent: adultery/hiring prostitutes and misspeaking the word “forty.”

Your moral compass is broken, and I really wonder about your ability to form a cogent thought.

I’d quit while you’re behind.

I’ve seen the clip. Cain was not taken out of context, he was lying his ass off. Cain has a serious lying problem and that — along with a number of other even more unsavory things — has doomed his campaign. I’m of two minds about that, because I want the Republicans to mount the craziest, most unelectable candidate possible (god knows there’s lots to choose from), so that Obama can run the most elevated campaign circumstances allow. But as an American, I’m happy Cain’s true nature is coming out now.

With regard to the goings-on in your workplace, try to get a clue. What you’ve described is all fine and well for your workgroup, but it doesn’t transfer to the rest of the world. Your experience is both unusual and unhealthy. Most people would find what you’ve described to be a hostile workplace environment and wouldn’t put up with it, gay or straight.

Ham-handed politicizing from the right or the left isn’t very entertaining. You can come close in comedy, but even then it requires a particular adroitness in skewering the absurdity of political behavior rather than trying to skewer the political talking point.

Too much, man, being stupid is now cool with libbies, as long as you’re “libby” stupid, :)

Agreed that Maddow and Sirota gave Obama a pass in that segment, although the links you provided mostly were on the margins — accuracy rather than untruth. Suffice it to say, the Maddow segment was not perfectly balanced.

Bush’s spending was not irrelevant (especially two useless wars), but was not the straw that broke the camel’s back. And the current crisis is not a spending crisis. It’s a jobs crisis. Deficit spending matters, as does government inefficiency and simply spending hugely on things that shouldn’t be funded at all (although I suspect you and I would have vastly different lists), but what really matters is jobs. Consumer spending is 70% of the economy and it’s in the toilet. Until that can be stimulated again — by increased confidence in the job market — all draconian spending cuts will do is drive the economy even deeper. See Greece, Portugal, Spain, Ireland, and (most nerve-wracking) the UK.

I saw RRK’s comment about where you are sitting. It was uncalled-for.

Umm.. it seems you’ve read a lot of commie and nazi crap. Don’t you love how we can read what we want in America?

Now you’re starting to drool on yourself.

I’d expect a president, or someone wanting to become president, to have a better grasp of the facts. Iran is not our friend, but has not been responsible for more deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan than the Iraqis and Afghanis.

And, a president needs to be a little smarter than to toss around lines like “we’re at war” with a country we’re not actually at war with. That’s way too close to a self-fulfilling prophecy.

So on the “grasp of the facts” and “little smarter” fronts, Santorum fails miserably. And that doesn’t even get into his literally evil social policy obsessions. As the voters in “his” state pointed out at his last election, he’s not fit for national office. That hasn’t changed.

Actually, I do. It’s better, of course, when the reader can retain what’s been read and then apply it logically to other situations, but I realize (see above) that doesn’t always happen.

Rachael Maddow has mental mad cow decease; her face is the atypical “smack face”; snide, petulant, bigoted biased and really really unattractive in all respects; typically left wing defender of the downtrodden “victims”who, even when called “poverty level people”, live better than 90%of the planet. The obvious glee with witch ( oops, did I say witch? ) which she unloads her feral spittle laden pseudo-intellectual diatribes is piteous to behold and as with” Obama the terrible whiner” I have ceased to give either the benefit of the doubt. Multicultural in their many many lies. Historically abusive they are not good for our great country.

I certainly don’t think he is as smart as he is made out to be.  LOL

’nuff said!  LOL

Conservative’s have no sense of humor, you, you meanie!  LOL

Give me your address, I’ll send you my ear!

You make a good case.  Regardless, so do I. 

 I conclude my evidence is much stronger as we now have a President, currently in office, heavily influenced by all of your asserted, “Incompatible,” “oil and water,” “fire and ice” historical analogies you’ve made.

I’d prefer NOT to see the results of Obama’s hermaphroditic revolution.

So, the truth hurts?  I admit Rachel had to dig pretty good to find some minor things for a couple of the candidates just so that all candidates had a goof or flipflop.

But why attack the messenger.  Maddow backs up all her accusations with raw video – not the edited kind you see on FOX.

It’s possible that maybe you are just jealous that she is such an intelligent person.  Rhodes scholar and all. She probably doesn’t have any cats -she has a dog.

Their SON isn’t a public person and therefore he doesn’t need or want to have an interview even on his sister’s TV show.

Can you prove that anything she said on the show is not true?  Of course you can’t.  Because it is all true.  So, instead you attack the messenger instead of accepting the facts about these candidates and their hypocrisy.

Yes, she’s smart – a Rhodes scholar.  Having a lesbian who is intelligent too has just got to hit the religious right fanatics in the groin.

You keep posting this.  And, in case you probably don’t realize is that the Maddow’s son, David is very proud of his sister, Rachel.   And so are Retired Air Force Captain Robert Maddow and his school administrator wife, Elaine.

Rachel is intelligent and a very honest person.  Don’t shoot the messenger when you don’t agree with the fact.

Thank you Defender-90. We may not always agree, but to say so with respect is what is needed – very much these days.  Rachel’s choice of a life partner has nothing to do with her intelligence,honesty and respect for others.

This happened at the end of the primary in 2008. And, I can imagine that the president was rather exhausted.  then again, maybe he was actually including all the territories as well as the states.

I think George W Bush made mistakes a lot more prevalent than this.  But that is old news.

I would love to see you up against him any day.

Let me guess – the producer is none other than Rupert Murdoch.  Right? 

I agree a HUGE issue is jobs, and when people are working, they are paying taxes and spending. But I also think we have massively huge deficits, and we are spending way too much and shouldn’t be spending more than we are bringing in. We also took a big hit when people walked away from their mortgages, and were unable to keep that cash stream flowing. But, 8 years of out of control spending, and bailouts and more budgeted spending is NOT helping. Borrowing to spend isn’t right. I believe spending is a major part of our current issue. Past, current and future. 

You’ve got to admit, were it not for President and the “birther” issue, it sounds like the plot for a novel? Turn the clock back to 2000, the World Trade Center attack would have sounded the same? Anyway, for the most part, I was just fooling around. I do that. GORGEGIRL, you and I read have been reading each other’s posts for a while now. You know I am a bit eccentric. I thought your response was perfect. LOL

Mayhem, for what its worth, I liked your “wrestler” icon.  It was just right, respectfully.

Purveyor

Being a Rhodes Scholar, a lesbian and kicking men in the nuts does not necessarily equate with the acquisition of wisdom?

Ms. Maddow, is case in point.

Purveyor

Is/are Ms. Maddow, or for that matter, the candidate’s themselves, the sum of their parts?  Like the allegory of the blind men touching an elephant, each gives a differing description within their context.  

Ergo, to celebrate Ms. Maddow’s perceived veracity, while at the same time condemning the Candidate’s perceived mendacity, is NOT to have all the evidence, so to speak?

Any prosecutor worth his salt, will tell you that “motive” goes a long way in sealing a case, hence, why is Maddow saying what she says, as well as the candidates?

Purveyor.

“The bourgeoisie see’s in his wife a mere instrument of production.”

Marx @ Engels, “The Communist Manifesto”

Actually, Karl and his chum Felix produced an extensive body of writing on the subject of male-female relations.

Purveyor

I think, I have demonstrated enough knowledge on the subjects of Islam and Marxism/Socialism for you NOT to suggest I “misunderstand” the relationship, or, lack thereof between the two ideologies. (NOT a question)
1.) “Groups from the hardcore socialist left, and extreme Islam will work together because of the common enemy of Israel.2.) “Groups from the hardcore socialist left and Islam will work together because of the common enemy of Capitalism.3.) Groups from the hardcore socialist left, and extreme Islam will work together to overturn relative stability, because, within the status quo, they are both ostracized from the power and the mainstream in most of the world.”For someone with your background, I find it confusing as to why you seem to deflect or minimize the threat to the United States that the internal bourgeoning Socialist, political machine and an inflexible, zealous religion, (Islam) pose to America.”The enemy of my enemy is my friend.”  Old Arab adage.  Hence, Democrat-Socialists are allies of Islam.  I will help to defend my country.  Why don’t you?Purveyor

And we can all be assured she will tear into every lie presented by the Left,  RIGHT?   You Libs are so hypocritical its funny.,   You dont even try to hide it,  believing as you do in your arrogant elitist ways that the right cant see through your trash.  After the last 50 years of your ways   YES  Everyone understands what you are and what you do.

Liberals are not trained to lie,  they are un trainable,  they are born to lie.

There you go. By some massive accident, Raj’s comment turns out to be, well …not correct per se, but at least in the same section of the library as the topic he was discussing.

Will wonders never cease.

The plot for a very dull novel, perhaps.

Unless, of course, he can also shoot death rays out of his eyes. Then it would be a very *bad* novel, but might make a successful popcorn movie starring Justin Bieber and Megan Fox.

i can’t find any evidence that Obama ever said this:

 ”the oceans to stop rising and the planet to heal,”

let alone that he was pompous enough to give himself credit for it.

fact check that!

Karl and Felix, were just thourough… Ouch!

So what did Maddow lie about here?

So where were the lies in this segment?  I keep asking, can’t seem to get an answer from anyone.  Weird

I watched it until the guy said “they hate America.” He talked about America being beaten up on 9/11 and SOMEBODY said “America deserves it.” This was his point. Mean spirited people said America deserves it.

Look back at that time and you will see that the ONLY people who said anything like that were ULTRA-CONSERVATIVCE PREACHERS! The ultimate in the right wing.

I watched that one half-way through. It is pure propaganda. Only one liberal in one million would argue that way. If you want to believe all do, they you are a mental child.