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Tom Brokaw On Guns In Arizona: “I Would Be Nervous Going Into A Bar”

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Tom Brokaw appeared on MSNBC‘s Morning Joe to discuss the prevalence of guns in America and the increase in gun sales since the Arizona shooting. Conservative commentator Peggy Noonan explained the sales being a result of law-abiding citizens eager to purchase guns in order to protect themselves from any future Jared Loughners, while Brokaw theorized that people are just eager to stockpile guns in their “underground bunkers” in case new regulations are created to restrict them.

Brokaw elaborated on his personal view of efforts to enact “gun control”:

Gun control is too simple a phrase to define all the complications and nuances of it, frankly. In Arizona they have a wide open system. I would be nervous about going into a bar or restaurant in Arizona on a Saturday night where people can carry concealed without permits.

Brokaw bemoaned that a civil dialogue about any gun restrictions is nearly impossible given the power and influence of the NRA and gun owners outside of the urban areas. Whether a debate over gun control is reignited in the coming weeks remains to be seen, but the only sure thing is if you want to argue with Brokaw over this point you now know where not to find him.

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  • BatBoy

    I suggest that Tom Stay Home…he is not welcome in AZ or many other western states.

  • Big Eddie

    This sneering lefty will never understand anyone or anything outside of New York or L.A. , so his opinion on guns is totally worthless .

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    Stay out of UT while you are at it Tom.

  • Harry Flashman

    I’m wondering if he would be nervous going into a bar in Harlem or East L.A.?

    I’m sure he’d swagger into those places without fear. All those guns and hostility are out west and in the south, you know. New York is a bubble of kumbaya harmony.

  • Mr.Papshmer

    Earth to Tom…. Where I live we have “must issue” concealed carry permits, and open carry without permits. It’s illegal to go into a bar (or anywhere alcohol is served) with a gun. Law abiding citizens follow the rule of law. You can figure out the rest.

  • George C

    No reason to fear Tom , Plaxico Burress lost his work release bid .

  • Mr.Papshmer

    One other thing. Tom says, “I would be nervous about going into a bar or restaurant in Arizona on a Saturday night where people can carry concealed without permits.” Tom is an idiot and is completely unaware of the law.

  • Harry Flashman

    A follow-up observation….

    Juan Williams got fired when he said that he got nervous when he saw people in Muslim dress on an airplane. That was…offensive.

    So….it’s not offensive to paint the entire state of Arizona as armed lunatics?

    Just wonderin’.

  • dlauf87

    Wow, Tom goes on TV to tell everyone he is a huge pussy

  • Big Eddie

    Went in a bar in Bullhead City , Az. a few years ago . They ask at the door if you’re packing a heater . If you say no , they issue you one .

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    Harry says:

    So….it’s not offensive to paint the entire state of Arizona as armed lunatics?

    It’s only offensive if they are Muslim.

  • felixw

    MSNBC has become the new comedy channel. They have always been biased, but their coverage of this tragedy in Arizona has become so distanced from reality that the rest of America can only look on slack-jawed in amazement. Sure, Tom, there are gunfights in every Phoenix bar. And Sarah Palin caused a murder. Glenn Beck too. And Bush is responsible for Katrina. And you can give 20 million people free healthcare, and it will cost us all less than before. All MSNBC needs is a laugh track to accompany the punditry, since the one-liners are already in place.

  • http://www.libertarianism.com/ Jack Burns

    Big Eddie said:
    Went in a bar in Bullhead City , Az. a few years ago . They ask at the door if you’re packing a heater . If you say no , they issue you one .

    I’m going to tell you what. I live in the Great Midwest. In a bad part of town. I was sitting in my favorite watering hole and these two fellows with pistols came in and told everyone to get on the floor. I would say about 6 or 7 patrons of the 10 or so in the establishment pulled out their piece and pointed at them. As the bartender pulled out his short rifle from behind the bar he told the two that they need to leave. While they were still able. Needless to say they both fled. I ordered a round for the bar…..

  • Big Eddie

    Jack Burns said:
    I’m going to tell you what. I live in the Great Midwest. In a bad part of town. I was sitting in my favorite watering hole and these two fellows with pistols came in and told everyone to get on the floor. I would say about 6 or 7 patrons of the 10 or so in the establishment pulled out their piece and pointed at them. As the bartender pulled out his short rifle from behind the bar he told the two that they need to leave. While they were still able. Needless to say they both fled. I ordered a round for the bar…..

    CHEERS ! Excellent .

    One tip for Tom . If you go into any bar anywhere , don’t walk in dressed like Brother Theodore . ( as in picture ) .

  • http://www.snowspot.net Snowspot

    Oh wait, let me guess, Tom has to bring his gun to feel safe.

    What a great country we live in, the only way we can feel safe now is to buy our own gun.

    Maybe we shouldn’t have made guns so easily available in the first place, then there wouldn’t be so many people to kill gun-owners.

    Cause, ya know, all gun-owners are really threatened all the time, they live a dangerous life… shooting at deer and squirrels that have no way to defend themselves… real man stuff.

  • Mr.Papshmer

    Snowspot said:
    What a great country we live in, the only way we can feel safe now is to buy our own gun.

    You’ll need to go to the liberal school of straw men before you can pull crap like that. I mean, that’s a really stupid comment.

  • SarahP.

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    Stay out of UT while you are at it Tom.

    I’m sure he gives a shit what you think. Dumbass.

  • Scott_in_MI

    Brokaw is just showing his elitist attitude. If you don’t live in the upper west side of Manhatten, you’re just a peon, redneck hillbilly who doesn’t deserve the honor of having a drink with the All Mighty Newsreader Brokaw.

    does anyone think you’d hear Hannity or BillO say such a stupid thing?

  • SarahP.

    Scott_in_MI said:
    Brokaw is just showing his elitist attitude. If you don’t live in the upper west side of Manhatten, you’re just a peon, redneck hillbilly who doesn’t deserve the honor of having a drink with the All Mighty Newsreader Brokaw.

    does anyone think you’d hear Hannity or BillO say such a stupid thing?

    Actually, they say stupid things every day. So do you.

  • Probably NOT wrong

    I would be nervous driving on the Interstate if I knew Tom Brokaw
    was on the same one at the same time!

  • SarahP.

    Probably NOT wrong said:
    I would be nervous driving on the Interstate if I knew Tom Brokaw
    was on the same one at the same time!

    You’d be nervous if your zipper happened to stick.

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    Brainstem, where does your obsession with oral sex come from? It’s creepy. I hope you don’t live next to an elementary school.

  • StewartIII
  • milynily

    Not afraid to go to MSNBC though, hummm.

  • Penguin60

    Brokaw? I thought he was grazing in field somewhere. Did somebody leave the gate open again?

  • murf

    ” I would be nervous about going into a bar or restaurant …”

    I would be too if I was married and afraid of getting caught ..

  • kvon

    BatBoy said:
    I suggest that Tom Stay Home…he is not welcome in AZ or many other western states.

    You guys, never get tired of the threats do you?

  • kvon

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    Stay out of UT while you are at it Tom.

    hahaha…I’m pretty sure that’s not going to be a problem. Who would want to go to Utah?

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    LOL.

  • timzank

    kvon said:
    You guys, never get tired of the threats do you?

    That’s what’s called a “suggestion”. It’s even got the word “suggest” in the sentence.

  • tortillapete

    Tom – you might want to try rest stops. I understand they can be a safe alternative for guys with your range of “interests”…

  • Angstone

    Mr.Papshmer said:
    Earth to Tom…. Where I live we have “must issue” concealed carry permits, and open carry without permits. It’s illegal to go into a bar (or anywhere alcohol is served) with a gun. Law abiding citizens follow the rule of law. You can figure out the rest.

    Reality intrusion, Pap: Arizona, Tennessee, Georgia and Virginia allow loaded guns in bars and restaurants. Please dazzle us with your logic or fear driven fantasies that allowing drunks to be armed with a 9mm is in any way a good idea…

  • ndanielson

    SarahP. said:
    I’m sure he gives a shit what you think. Dumbass.

    SarahP. said:
    Actually, they say stupid things every day. So do you.

    SarahP. said:
    You’d be nervous if your zipper happened to stick.

    Look how much this clown brings to the table. Discussion after discussion. Empty attacks, without a coherent thought or input of any kind, because someone disagrees with his beloved 0bama.

  • ndanielson

    The uber liberal Tom Brokaw looks down his nose on the good people of AZ way too much to ever step foot in a bar there. He still thinks guns kill people.

  • Angstone

    Jack Burns said:
    I’m going to tell you what. I live in the Great Midwest. In a bad part of town. I was sitting in my favorite watering hole and these two fellows with pistols came in and told everyone to get on the floor. I would say about 6 or 7 patrons of the 10 or so in the establishment pulled out their piece and pointed at them. As the bartender pulled out his short rifle from behind the bar he told the two that they need to leave. While they were still able. Needless to say they both fled. I ordered a round for the bar…..

    Yet last weekend, in the middle of Arizona, home to the loosest gun laws in America, where you can carry concealed or on a damn holster, the most extreme scenario played out: an armed psycho bolted out of a store, into a large crowd, shot a woman point blank and then started firing wildly at the crowd. The guy got off 31 shots and not one gun owner was able to stop him. And honestly, it was probably a good thing no one tried, because a few jagoffs with their own glocks or sig sauers would have much more likely only added to the dead and wounded.

    The only way this would have been helped would have been for gun control laws that limited this psycho freak to a more traditional slower firing hand gun with a smaller magazine. Spin away, with visions of black market tech 10s that he would have used if gun laws kept him out of gun shops and show, but sane gun laws save lives, and no one needs an AK 47 or a glock with a 30 round clip for home defense.

  • Angstone

    ndanielson said:
    He still thinks guns kill people.

    People kill people and so do guns. You have a madman with an assault weapon who kills 20 people, when he might have killed 5 or less with a 30-06. The psycho absolutely killed 5, but the additional 15 deaths are courtesy of the assault weapon’s added killing efficiency. No reason anyone needs to own an assault weapon or an automatic for sport or for self defense. Where do the NRA arguments end? When owning an RPG is legal? What about a heavy mortar?

  • fanofamerica

    Angstone said:
    Reality intrusion, Pap: Arizona, Tennessee, Georgia and Virginia allow loaded guns in bars and restaurants. Please dazzle us with your logic or fear driven fantasies that allowing drunks to be armed with a 9mm is in any way a good idea…

    And the stories coming out of those states of the murder and mayhem in bars instigated by legal gun owners/carriers are so numerous, I’m surprised there’s time for news stations to report on anything else.

  • gjp

    Jack Burns said:
    I’m going to tell you what. I live in the Great Midwest. In a bad part of town. I was sitting in my favorite watering hole and these two fellows with pistols came in and told everyone to get on the floor. I would say about 6 or 7 patrons of the 10 or so in the establishment pulled out their piece and pointed at them. As the bartender pulled out his short rifle from behind the bar he told the two that they need to leave. While they were still able. Needless to say they both fled. I ordered a round for the bar…..

    Something similar happened here. Thugs came in with guns. Owner pulled out his gun one dead, other ran, owner and patrons safe and sound. Problem solved.

  • gjp

    kvon said:
    hahaha…I’m pretty sure that’s not going to be a problem. Who would want to go to Utah?

    Utah? Greatest Snow on Earth? Nobody wants that.

  • ndanielson

    Angstone said:
    People kill people and so do guns. You have a madman with an assault weapon who kills 20 people, when he might have killed 5 or less with a 30-06. The psycho absolutely killed 5, but the additional 15 deaths are courtesy of the assault weapon’s added killing efficiency. No reason anyone needs to own an assault weapon or an automatic for sport or for self defense. Where do the NRA arguments end? When owning an RPG is legal? What about a heavy mortar?

    And if a responsible adult standing next to the coward had 1chambered load in a 9mm, end of Mr. Loughlin, without the carnage or the million dollar appeals for his 10 million dollar court appointed, tax payer paid for defense.

  • ndanielson

    ndanielson said:
    And if a responsible adult standing next to the coward had 1chambered load in a 9mm, end of Mr. Loughlin, without the carnage or the million dollar appeals for his 10 million dollar court appointed, tax payer paid for defense.

    Oh, and blame the gun, and society for “allowing” him to have it. He is a victim of society, just like the media paints him. Right?

  • IIWII

    He should be nervous going into a bar… real men and honest women are usually in there.

  • IIWII

    SarahP. said:
    I’m sure he gives a shit what you think. Dumbass.

    Reading, searching… trying to put things together…. found this site by accident but have been checking regularly… hoping to make sense out of the world in a place where folks interact…. and see your GREAT comment….. “shit” “dumbass”…. where have I been????????? I thought intelligent discourse was wrought with clever innuendo… my bad… I guess the state of human commentary is just a blather of insults and third grade insults. OH MY!!!!!! “Folk Bloodbath” by Josh Ritter just came on my headphones….. gotta go… great song. Better eyes closed listening to the song than eyes open reading your tripe….”…the angels layed him away…. layed him six feet under the clay…”

  • Nacho

    Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with people in Arizona?

  • Helix

    Angstone said:
    Yet last weekend, in the middle of Arizona, home to the loosest gun laws in America, where you can carry concealed or on a damn holster, the most extreme scenario played out: an armed psycho bolted out of a store, into a large crowd, shot a woman point blank and then started firing wildly at the crowd. The guy got off 31 shots and not one gun owner was able to stop him. And honestly, it was probably a good thing no one tried, because a few jagoffs with their own glocks or sig sauers would have much more likely only added to the dead and wounded.

    The only way this would have been helped would have been for gun control laws that limited this psycho freak to a more traditional slower firing hand gun with a smaller magazine. Spin away, with visions of black market tech 10s that he would have used if gun laws kept him out of gun shops and show, but sane gun laws save lives, and no one needs an AK 47 or a glock with a 30 round clip for home defense.

    No one was going to prevent Jared from getting off the first several shots, he attacked totally from surprise like a professional combat shooter would. Just because concealed carry exists is no guarantee that there are any gun owners packing nearby and close enough to do any good. IE, a strawman argument. Your argument that “it was a good thing no one tried” is both intellectually dishonest and cowardly speculation. Just because you don’t have the guts doesn’t mean the rest of us are the same way and you have no idea what would have happened. The disarm attempt by the bystanders succeeded this time, but the spring problems inherent in a high-cap magazine made their job easier.

    On to the next paragraph. An improvement in the mental health area might have well prevented the shooter from obtaining a firearm, given that we might all agree he is crazy, by actually using and enforcing the existing laws regarding mental health and firearms. But the laws, like gun control laws, are just pieces of paper that prevent nothing and stop nothing without people as their agents. The solution to the failure of laws should not be more laws. Bypassing the supposed limits on magazines is quite simple really, thanks to the internet you can order them online if you are smart enough to use a computer. And as to the “slower firing” traditional weapons, looks like you never heard of “fanning” which is a revolver rapid fire technique. Low cap magazines are no guarantee of low body counts.

    Gun control laws are an epic failure because at their heart they distrust the common citizen to make rational and good judgements with the firearm. Looking at large scale examples like New York and Chicago, one can see the failure of gun control in the real world, with more death and crime, not less, compared with more heavily armed populations elsewhere . Also, gun control proponents(Brady et al) have a bad habit of distorting the facts or outright lying about the issue, making many of us not trust them or their motivations. It is no secret that gun control laws serve the cause of tyranny. Just_MC has some great posts on this topic in another thread.

  • Latin2

    Tom I don’t know if they carry guns in the sort of bars you frequent. It is hard for drag queens to pack heat in their padded bras.

  • JamesA1102

    BatBoy said:
    I suggest that Tom Stay Home…he is not welcome in AZ or many other western states.

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    Stay out of UT while you are at it Tom.

    Are you people seriously threatening the life of Tom Brokaw? I hope Mediaite does the responsible thing and notifies the appropriate authorities.

  • TristramShandy

    Tom Brokaw was talking about going into a gay bar… Oh, my God! Latin2 brought this up first.

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    James, are you freaking kidding me!! I’m telling him I don’t want to SEE him, not that I want to kill him. You guys are really stretching now. Give it a rest, loon.

  • ndanielson

    Didn’t Brokaw just insult every bar patron in AZ? Where is the civility in comments like Mr. Brokaw just made? What civil retort is he expecting? I doubt the good people of AZ would even welcome the clown. He belongs in liberal, elite towns with their metro-sexual “men” for him to feel comfortable. San Francisco and New York City, where boys will be girls and SarahP, and jim bronson 990cc can compete for the metro-boy attention. Where The Real Royal King doesn’t have to be afraid to let his hair down to be Queen for the day. Yes folks, Brokaw has been spoon feeding the mush-brain liberal garbage since 1966! One of the liberal elite that has never found a conservative that he couldn’t look down his nose at. In his simple remarks he shows his contempt for regular citizens of America. SarahP, and jim bronson 990cc swoon to his voice, like Barry 0bama to Jerimiah Wright. Brokaw is as proud of America as Michelle Obama. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGjR81pFJI4 And Brokaw has as much contempt of America as Barry 0bama has for the US Constitution: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkpdNtTgQNM

  • ndanielson

    JamesA1102 said:
    Are you people seriously threatening the life of Tom Brokaw? I hope Mediaite does the responsible thing and notifies the appropriate authorities.

    Maybe they just want to keep a “boot to his throat” like Barry 0bama does to BP?

  • justanotherconservative

    i would be afraid to go into that state, period, without a gun to protect myself. the violence with the mexican drug cartels is enough to keep me outta there.

  • ndanielson

    justanotherconservative said:
    i would be afraid to go into that state, period, without a gun to protect myself. the violence with the mexican drug cartels is enough to keep me outta there.

    Even with the hotshot “sheriff” of Pima county reporting for duty?

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    I’d feel perfectly safe in Sheriif Joe’s territory! Sheriff Joe for Sec of Defense!

  • ndanielson

    Tom Brokaw and a conservative walk into a bar together…which one is the first to get smashed?

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    Stop promoting violence against Tom, ndanielson!!

  • ndanielson

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    Stop promoting violence against Tom, ndanielson!!

    Farrago fatigans, those are fighting words!

  • ndanielson

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    I’d feel perfectly safe in Sheriif Joe’s territory! Sheriff Joe for Sec of Defense!

    More than, “America has its homegrown terrorists” (while in an ARAB COUNTRY!) Hillary Clinton???

  • notsofast

    Brokaw?

    LOL

    This shill cried on national TV at Barry’s inauguration. He would be afraid to attend a Girl Scout meeting.

  • ndanielson

    Helix said:
    No one was going to prevent Jared from getting off the first several shots, he attacked totally from surprise like a professional combat shooter would. Just because concealed carry exists is no guarantee that there are any gun owners packing nearby and close enough to do any good. IE, a strawman argument. Your argument that “it was a good thing no one tried” is both intellectually dishonest and cowardly speculation. Just because you don’t have the guts doesn’t mean the rest of us are the same way and you have no idea what would have happened. The disarm attempt by the bystanders succeeded this time, but the spring problems inherent in a high-cap magazine made their job easier.

    On to the next paragraph. An improvement in the mental health area might have well prevented the shooter from obtaining a firearm, given that we might all agree he is crazy, by actually using and enforcing the existing laws regarding mental health and firearms. But the laws, like gun control laws, are just pieces of paper that prevent nothing and stop nothing without people as their agents. The solution to the failure of laws should not be more laws. Bypassing the supposed limits on magazines is quite simple really, thanks to the internet you can order them online if you are smart enough to use a computer. And as to the “slower firing” traditional weapons, looks like you never heard of “fanning” which is a revolver rapid fire technique. Low cap magazines are no guarantee of low body counts.

    Gun control laws are an epic failure because at their heart they distrust the common citizen to make rational and good judgements with the firearm. Looking at large scale examples like New York and Chicago, one can see the failure of gun control in the real world, with more death and crime, not less, compared with more heavily armed populations elsewhere . Also, gun control proponents(Brady et al) have a bad habit of distorting the facts or outright lying about the issue, making many of us not trust them or their motivations. It is no secret that gun control laws serve the cause of tyranny. Just_MC has some great posts on this topic in another thread.

    If America would just ask itself one simple question: Why are there people who want to disarm an honest citizenry? The absurdity would go away, if we just keep asking THAT question. Liberals exist to make criminals victims, so that they my create programs to “protect” the citizenry. They allow for so many criminals to remain in society, then they work overtime to demonize guns to take away their self defense from them. Wake up, people! We cannot all live in liberal elite enclaves like the fool Tom Brokaw.

  • ndanielson

    notsofast said:
    Brokaw?

    LOL

    This shill cried on national TV at Barry’s inauguration. He would be afraid to attend a Girl Scout meeting.

    How much taxpayer money went into convicting the obviously deranged and liberal clown Phil Specter? His estate should have been confiscated after his trial to reimburse the tax payer, and to award the real victims in that tragedy. Perhaps if America went after Hollywierd’s guns they’d sing a different tune, and make a different movie.

  • writer

    Tom Brokaw walks into a bar. The bartender says, “Why the long face?”

    Badda Bing!

  • ndanielson

    writer said:
    Tom Brokaw walks into a bar. The bartender says, “Why the long face?”

    Badda Bing!

    Tom Brokaw, wearing a fresh Depends, attends a tea party and keeps getting asked: is that a dimple on your chin, or are you just happy to be here.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Arthur-Clough/1419363514 Arthur Clough

    Old Tom, you have a right to be nervous, no one wants you in that town. Your full of crap and they don’t like people like you, its just that simple.

  • Ivan in Phoenix

    Tom, you can always go to a bar for sissies and nancy-boys. I think there’s probably a couple of them here in Arizona. They might not be carrying a heater but they’ll scratch your eyes out for being a whiny little beotch. Nobody likes that ‘kind’ around here.

  • Phocus2

    Tom Brokaw On Guns In Arizona: “I Would Be Nervous Going Into A Bar Unless it’s a Gay Bar…hug.”

  • Snidely

    Ol’ Tom might want to stay out of bars in Louisiana, too. In fact, I would invite him to stay out of Louisiana altogether. Wimp.

  • Less_Govt

    There are proabably a number of things that make Tom Brokaw nervouse.

    Going into a bar, any bar, I don’t believe is one of them.

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