albaby said:
perrmatiltx- My copy shows the time period for the cable ratings ratings as 6-28-10 to 7-25-10 and for the full ratings as 6-28-10 to 7-23-10. KInda takes care of most of July.

Right, so only a week of the Sherrod story is in there. Again, if numbers went down, it wouldn’t necessarily show up then, since it was only a week among four weeks. That was my point. Wasn’t saying it was a lie, I was just saying that it was too early to start the horn tooting. Next month, you can start the horn tooting.

The Real Royal King said:
You obviously didn’t watch O’Hannity’s “interview” with Breitbart. Promotion and propogation of Breitbart’s lies. Intentional. Malicious.

The Real Royal Pain (in the ass),
I did watched the Hannity’s interview with Andrew Brietbart.

Breitbart said:
“The reason why Shirley Sherrod is the story right now, not the NAACP, is because the White House which stands by the firing or the forced resignation — harassment as she said — they made the story about Shirley. They threw her under the bus.

I have not asked that she get fired. I’ve not asked for an investigation into her. The whole point was to show that the — for the NAACP to spend five days on national TV saying that the Tea Party is racist without any evidence when we can prove that the central argument didn’t happen and the mainstream media won’t play it — for them to talk about racism they should not be throwing stones in glass houses.

And what this video shows and what the NAACP affirms in their initial rebuke is not just that Shirley Sherrod, what she said was wrong, but that the audience was laughing and applauding as she described how she maltreated the white farmer.”

Sherrod went on with CNN’s John King:
Asked about the NAACP’s actions during an interview with CNN on Tuesday, Sherrod said the only reason the video surfaced was in response to an NAACP resolution accusing the tea party of using “racist” tactics. “They got into a fight with the tea party, and all of this came out as a result of that,” Sherrod said.

It’s a matter of record. The NAACP got punk’d. The bonus was that the White House also got punk’d.
Obama acted stupidly….again.

gordonbloyershow said:
RRK is very funny. He still doesn’t know Fox and Friends and Hannity are not NEWS shows. LOL. Lies never get in the way of facts for the KING.

You’re right, they aren’t News shows, but the thing that worries me is the people (cons included) who believe they are. And there seem to be a lot of them out there. Also, I don’t think The Daily Show is a news show either, and it worries me that there are people that do.

Although I AM looking forward to Olberdouche’s coming back from his vaca Again to make Another 14 Minute Special Comment, because he heard from a guy who heard from a guy, that somebody said they’re Pissed that Obama used a BLACKberry instead of a White iPod. once.

That should be Good For A Laugh http://static.thehollywoodgossip.com/images/gallery/angry-olbermann_492x331.jpg Thorazine,

PEACE!

notsofast said:
Michelle and Permafrost, I really don’t want to use the hypocrite word here, but Perm just said:

“Now, I have to go into battle with my current enemy.”

And the he said, “MichelleF, please don’t make his mistakes. Don’t let hate keep you from talking about issues.”

I accept your apology Perm!

Well, you can’t use the word hypocrite here. I didn’t say anything hypocritical. I said not to do what you did. You did a baseless attack, an attack on someone you didn’t know. Perhaps because my thoughts drifted closer to the liberal mindset. You though, Lib! and decided to attack me for no good reason. That was based on blind hate, closed minds, and an inability to accept your own faults that you lash out unreasonably. It’s classic behavior. I warned MichelleF not do to that. I’ve never said I have no enemies. I’ve never said I wouldn’t defend when attacked. Look at how long this is going on without getting deeper into the issues. Now, it seems that you have become your own one man echo chamber that you spout out the same thing over and over again, but don’t evaluate what’s happening. It’s sad. You’re a sad man (or woman), and we shouldn’t hate you, but feel that there is some deep unseated pain within your heart that you have to turn it out onto other people, especially here where no one sees your face, no one looks past the shields of written words. You are hiding, something serious. I’m not saying go get help, but I have poking and prodding and you have yet to prove me wrong, and as you continue to come after me, I will continue to dissect that shield. Are you sure you want to find out what’s down there, cause I’m willing to find it.

notsofast said:
Still, one of my favorites!

I will put it on my next CD just for YOU!

OK, friend- I will no longer hold you responsible for that one. I thought you were being a snark because this monotonous argument occurs every week when Mediaite posts the cable ratings on Thursday, I think it is.

You still use CD’s?

notsofast said:
Massive snore!

Learn the word “laconic.”

Just knowing the meaning of words doesn’t mean you stop doing it. It’s clear you know the word hypocrite. And, well, does it stop you?

ImNotBlue said:
yweston says:July 27, 2010 at 10:46 pm Aw, Westy’s got her underwear in a bunch too. Poor dear. FNC didn’t “lie” about anything, and nobody on the network supports the “birthers.” Of course, let’s not get the simple facts get in the way. Otherwise, what would Westy have to talk about?

You obviously didn’t watch O’Hannity’s “interview” with Breitbart. Promotion and propogation of Breitbart’s lies. Intentional. Malicious. But, as they say back at your home, “Anything less than full praise for FOX, and you’re on Exile Island.” Have you ever wondered why such an august media organization with hundreds of millions of viewers daily needs full time shrilled and thin-skinned defenders? It’s odd, isn’t it?

FOX NEWS AND BREITBART
WHERE LYING’S AN ART!

gordonbloyershow said:
The reason there will be no rating fall for Fox is that they did NOTHING wrong. Fox will continue to be the most trusted news network because they report ALL the news.

Just this morning, Gretchen Van Carlson was interviewing a council member in some Cracker town which had passed a resolution making English the official language of the Crackers. The Gretch kept referring to English as our official language in America, which it is not. We’ve never had an official language. And, she kept referring to the measure as “English Only” which the official went to great lengths to explain it was not. Undaunted, she pressed the Talking Point.

The official let it be known that the purpose of the legislation was to save money by avoiding translation fees and dual signage. He then volunteered that there had never been any funds spent by the town on translation fees or dual signage. A good thing he volunteered because she never asked and never commented on his proffer. Talking Points strike again.

Yes, FOX reports all the news. At least, all the rightist talking points.

FOX NEWS AND BREITBART
WHERE LYING’S AN ART!

Permatiltx said:
Now, I have to go into battle with my current enemy. MichelleF, please don’t make his mistakes. Don’t let hate keep you from talking about issues.

Michelle and Permafrost, I really don’t want to use the hypocrite word here, but Perm just said:

“Now, I have to go into battle with my current enemy.”

And the he said, “MichelleF, please don’t make his mistakes. Don’t let hate keep you from talking about issues.”

I accept your apology Perm!

Permatiltx said:
I wish I could own you for one day just so I could whip your pathetic lib ass black!”

Still, one of my favorites!

I will put it on my next CD just for YOU!

Permatiltx said:
That was clearly wrong. And I did read the article wrong and delivered it as fact. My fault. I learned from it. And please if I do give something as fact that is wrong, call me out on it. I’ll correct it. I’m not beyond mistakes. I will make them.

OK, friend- I will no longer hold you responsible for that one. I thought you were being a snark because this monotonous argument occurs every week when Mediaite posts the cable ratings on Thursday, I think it is.

Permatiltx said:
Permatiltx says

Massive snore!

Learn the word “laconic.”

MAYBE YOU CAN FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL OF THE TIME!

The Dem’s have been doing it to the inner city for the last 50 years or more…

notsofast said:
Michelle, you will have to give Permafrost some slack. He is a raging hypocrite. He came in here last week challenging my comment that libs here like disparaging FOX’s ratings. He saw no evidence of that so I mentioned our lovable King, and the ever irrepressible King averred that only 0.3% of the population watches FOX. Permafrost then moved his goalpost to say “that’s just one.”

And guess what? A few posts later he was comparing FOX’s ratings to those of feature films and injecting the ever popular worn out lib shibboleth of “Ratings don’t equal quality.”

Well, Permafrost, digest this:

In July, ‘Countdown with Keith Olbermann‘ Saw Lowest Viewership Since April 2008

Posted on 27 July 2010 by Robert Seidman

Countdown with Keith Olbermann saw its lowest viewing average in over two years, since April 2008. And while Keith was out for a few days during the month, that’s pretty customary in the summer, just like it was last summer. Only the numbers were higher then.”

“The effects of the Sherrod would show up in the August ratings. ”

Huh?????

They release ratings every day.

Cable News Ratings for Monday, July 26, 2010

Posted on 27 July 2010 by Robert Seidman
Live + Same Day Cable News Daily Ratings for July 26, 2010
P2+ Total Day
FNC – 1,150,000 viewers
CNN – 371,000 viewers
MSNBC – 373,000 viewers
CNBC – 220,000 viewers
HLN – 278,000 viewers

P2+ Prime Time
FNC – 2,221,000 viewers
CNN – 458,000 viewers
MSNBC –778,000 viewers
CNBC – 299,000 viewers
HLN – 525,000 viewers

You really need to do better at your spin, Permafrost- you are really looking desperate. Again!

First, plexiglass was a better slam on my name than Permafrost. Anyway, we’re beyond that now, notsofast.

Let’s get into the twisting of our first meeting. I’ve talked to yo u about this already, I’m going to speak in all caps right now, just so you get it. And you’ll see again, that the argument has been taken out of the equation of our battle, and actually ends up hurting you.

See, you complain about people twisting your words, and yet, you’ve twisted mine. I could call you a hypocrite, but you’ve used that word so much that it doesn’t have the impact.

I WAS NEW TO SITE, I’VE BEEN ON OTHER SITES AND NO LEFT OR LIBERAL HAD MADE THAT STATEMENT. NOW, I WAS CURIOUS. AGAIN, PEOPLE TALKED IN ABSOLUTES. THE LIBS KEEP SAYING THAT NO ONE WATCHES FOX. I WANTED A LINK THAT SHOWED THAT. SIMPLE. YOU SAID, ASK ROYAL RACE BAITER (you’re name for him). HOW MANY PEOPLE WATCH FOX. NOW, ANYONE NEW TO THIS SITE (Ex. me) WOULD READ THAT IT WAS JUST THE ROYAL ONE. THAT WAS YOUR RESPONSE TO ME. AGAIN, I TOOK THE LOGICAL APPROACH WHICH I TEND TO DO. JUST ONE? I ASKED. YOU SAID LIBS, I SAID SO ONE SAYS IT AND THAT MEANS ALL SAY IT? NOTE QUESTION MARK. YOU ATTACKED ME. SAYING I WAS WRONG! NO, I WASN’T WRONG.

Thus, if you say I am twisting your words, you are a hypocrite (I used the word anyway). Ratings does not equal quality. Again, this is an entertainment venture. It’s about ratings. It is a logical fallacy to say “Well, it’s tops in the ratings, then it must be right.” It’s called appeal to popularity (ad populum).

1. Most people approve of X
2. Therefore X is true.

Here, “A million Elvis fans can’t be wrong,” is an example of the fallacy. Again, in debate, the claim of FOX leading the ratings means its good and right would be thrown out. You seem to confuse logic and reason with desperation. But alas, you used a false assumption that you made over something I said (which using reason can be seen that I did not challenge your claim at all. You came back with faulty evidence for a question that I asked. If you hadn’t, I would’ve said, Oh, well, that’s an interesting stance taken in this forum, since it is clearly not true since FOX leads the ratings. And I may have gone after those claiming it. Again, blind hatred hurt you here. Pure and simple.)

And I bring up your statement of blind hatred, which you claim wasn’t a racist statement. Remember it?

I wish I could own you for one day just so I could whip your pathetic lib ass black!

I will also put it into context that it was a response to a poster who said Fox was trying to bring back slavery. Now, I don’t need to analyze it (or twist it by your definition). I’ll let others do it.

Oh, and, yes, I misrepresented an article I read about Fox and Friends. I said that Morning Joe was beating Fox and Friends in the ratings. That was clearly wrong. And I did read the article wrong and delivered it as fact. My fault. I learned from it. And please if I do give something as fact that is wrong, call me out on it. I’ll correct it. I’m not beyond mistakes. I will make them.

MichelleF said:
So plexiglass, what is your spin going to be when their ratings DON’T go down? You’d better start thinking about it now. I’m sure the JList has been discussing that one all week.

So, first, I didn’t say that their ratings were going go down. The point I was making is to hold off on the tooting of the horn that the ratings didn’t go down because of the Sherrod case. You can toot the horn for the August ratings, since any effect it had would show up there. See, the first part of the month keeps a ratings loss from being in the picture since it could’ve been an anomaly. The week’s ratings are where you want to look. And believe me if you look their you won’t see a drop. I told you where the more reliable data is located. Are you so blinded by hate, that you don’t recognize help?

I don’t have to spin anything here. I don’t believe ratings equal what’s right. Network news is about the battle for ratings. FOX knows its base, and will play to that to keep its ratings up. But Ailes himself says he is in the ratings game. Murdoch also believes in ratings. So, there will always be a slant when you play the game at that level. It’s like the circulation wars during the turn of the century, and yellow journalism came into play. It sold papers, and that’s what they wanted. I also don’t buy into the MSNBC market as the end all be all law. Again, this isn’t spin, this is my core beliefs. Simple. And by making me into an enemy, then you can’t get your views and your ideas across. I’m not making you into an enemy.

Now, I have to go into battle with my current enemy. MichelleF, please don’t make his mistakes. Don’t let hate keep you from talking about issues.

Aw, Westy’s got her underwear in a bunch too. Poor dear.

FNC didn’t “lie” about anything, and nobody on the network supports the “birthers.” Of course, let’s not get the simple facts get in the way. Otherwise, what would Westy have to talk about?

Where else can they go!! They all swarm around Fox waiting for their glass of haterade for the day.

I am amused as all ways. Glenduh is home NOW trying to find a Bigger bunch of B.S. to feed the masses to keep them eating his “chit” and coming back for more.

It’s actually funny. The poor lemmings have NO WHERE ELSE to go for LIES, LIES, LIES. Oops I forgot and EDITED videos.

See, I don’t want to argue with you-EVER so consider this a “rolling reply” should you be stupid
enough to appraoch me again.

Poor guy, too afraid to debate or even engage me, just gives the finger and runs away.

HA!

Who knew I was so scary?!

MichelleF says:
July 27, 2010 at 8:42 pm

Don’t you mean you CAN’T argue with him, baby-bootie? He is good.

Just wanna give him a, “It’s okay… not everybody is going to agree with you” hug, right? Poor guy.

Bootleghaircut says:
July 27, 2010 at 8:45 pm

Been there. Done that. Not Impressed. Moved On.

Yes, apparently “Moved On” means, “Avoid any discussion, still shaking in my boots.”

Poor guy.

Kind of like what I’m about to do with you should you post any more of that
offensive lunacy that your call political discourse!

Translation: “I DON’T LIKE IT WHEN PEOPLE DISAGREE WITH ME! STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT!

Folks, we may have found KO’s S/N! Just can’t seem to talk to anyone who disagrees. Poor guy.

ImJustThatDamnGood says:
July 27, 2010 at 9:30 pm

The only empowerment is the silence of your opponent.

Excellent point! If you don’t agree with the Democrats, you shouldn’t be allowed to talk! Silence the opposition! Free Speech for those who agree!

Yeesh.

President Barack Obama drew millions of first-time voters to the polls and pumped up Democratic turnout in the 2008 election, but those novice voters appear far more likely to sit things out in 2010 with Obama not on the ballot and his approval ratings drifting downward.

Now as a proud liberal progressive I admit this is one are where we should turn to the 1rst amendment; people have a right to say what ever racist thing they want-but as a GOOD AMERICAN you have a DUTY to call them out.

I suspect we are on the same side so don’t take this rebuke personally but we need to police our own brass
much better than the other side where race baiting morons are running free range.

Ca Va? Enjoy your evening.

Been there. Done that. Not Impressed. Moved On.

Kind of like what I’m about to do with you should you post any more of that
offensive lunacy that your call political discourse!

I wonder if you can get through a whole day without race baiting. I would love to see tha happen.

I ain’t holdin’ my breath though!