MSNBC’s Katy Tur Has Fiery Clash With Matt Schlapp on Trump’s False Economic Claims: ‘Just Say Something True!’


MSNBC’s Katy Tur battled with American Conservative Union chairman Matt Schlapp in a heated tussle over President Donald Trump‘s false claim that the GDP was greater than the unemployment percentage for the first time in 100 years.

Notably, this battle took place before today’s press briefing (see below.)

During a loud, wholly unproductive discussion on MSNBC Live (the type of discussion which frequently seems to happen when Schlapp appears on cable news, yet doesn’t seem to stop him from getting booked on cable news), Schlapp took issue with Tur describing repeated falsehoods from the president as lies.

“You are making a moral determination when you say a politician lies,” Schlapp said. “There are times when politicians get it right, and politicians get it wrong. On that tweet [in which Trump falsely claimed the GDP was higher than unemployment for the first time in 100 years], I don’t know how many years it’s been. I know this for Americans it’s historic to have the unemployment rate be below the GDP rate. And that’s a good thing for all of us. So what you do is, you try to find the one little way in which there’s a flaw, and you miss the general point.”

“But that’s the point!” Tur said. “He could just say something that’s true and that would be the end of it. Just say something true! And that would be the end of it.”

Schlapp, naturally, opted to do some what about-ing.

“It’s going both ways,” he said. “There are plenty of things I watch on your network that I don’t find to be factually [accurate]. Why don’t we not morally judge each other on our motive, and simply get to the facts. When the president is wrong on the facts, call him on that. But don’t take the next step by saying he’s immoral and a liar.”

Tur replied, “These thing, when he says them over and over again after h’s been fact-checked…then the only conclusion is he knows he’s lying and doing it on purpose.”

At the White House press brief, Trump Economic Adviser Kevin Hassett admitted that the claim was not true, to Schlapp’s presumed chagrin.

Watch above, via MSNBC.

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