Pence Says He’d Take a Lie Detector Test to Prove He Didn’t Write Anonymous Op-ed: ‘In a Heartbeat’
On Fox News Sunday, Vice President Mike Pence told host Chris Wallace that he would take a lie detector test “in a heartbeat” to prove that he is not the author of the anonymous New York Times op-ed alleging a secret resistance within Donald Trump‘s top administration circles.
Chris Wallace pre-recorded his interview with Mike Pence, which aired Sunday morning, and naturally the topic of Bob Woodward‘s book and the anonymous op-ed were of top concern. Wallace asked Pence whether he believed the stories in the book, and what he thought of the op-ed, and of course, whether he might be the author himself.
“this gets to the theme of both the anonymous article and also of Bob Woodward’s book,” said Wallace. “That some officials within this administration, within this White House, feel that they have to act, in effect, as guardrails to protect against some of the President’s more impulsive actions.”
Wallace brought up the story in Woodward’s book that said Gary Cohn pulled a document from Trump’s desk to prevent him acting on it.
“He takes it away, so the President won’t sign it,” said Wallace. “Do you have any doubt that happened?”
“I have every doubt that happened. I really do,” said the Vice President. Pence then deflected to offer talking points about Trump’s commitment to doing great things for Americans, but Wallace brought it back.
“But no, if I may just stay in this point for one minute –” he said as Pence wrapped up the platitudes. “If I may just stay in this point for one minute, because Bob Woodward didn’t just quote somebody. He has the document here. This is the letter that he took off the President’s desk, marked September 2017, in which the President, if he had signed it, would have terminated the South Korean trade deal. This isn’t just talk; he’s got the goods here.”
“This is a President who puts people around the table and around the resolute desk in the Oval Office that bring him all of the options, that put on the table everything that he could be doing,” said Pence, in an apparent oblique implication that the letter may have just been one of several items the President was considering. “He invites a vigorous debate around the desk, and then he makes a decision. That’s how it really does work.”
Wallace then turned to the editorial. Wallace asked him if he knows who the anonymous writer is, and he said that he does not. Like Mike Huckabee and Chris Christie and most other Trump surrogates, as well as many people in the media and some democrats, Pence said the person should “resign and leave this administration.”
Wallace asked if officials should take a lie detector test whether Pence would agree to take one.
“I would agree to take it in a heartbeat and would submit to any review the administration– wanted to do,” he said.
Wallace asked if the administration should administer lie detector tests to top officials to find out if they wrote the editorial. Pence said that such an extraordinary step would be “a decision for the president. He added that the author is “literally violating an oath. If they are that senior administration official — that they’re violating an oath, not to the president, but to the Constitution.”
When asked if the editorial constituted treason, which Trump tweeted, Pence simply said “it’s un-American.
Wallace also brought up the word “lodestar” which led on social media to many speculating that Pence or one of his speechwriters might have been behind the editorial.
WALLACE: One of the more unusual words in the essay is “lodestar,” which, it turns out — people have looked — is a word that you have used —
VP PENCE: Yeah.
WALLACE: — many times.
[montage of clips showing Pence saying “lodestar”]
WALLACE: Do you think someone purposely put that in the essay to try to set you up?
PENCE: Yeah. I wouldn’t know. I wouldn’t know. And I really do believe, that whether it’s the book, whether it’s the anonymous editorial, whether it’s President Obama’s speech this week, it’s all an effort to distract attention from this booming economy and from the president’s record of success.
Watch the clip above, courtesy of Fox News.
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