Morning Joe host Mika Brzezinski challenged TIME’s Joe Klein and former Obama advisor Steve Rattner to defend Hillary Clinton’s still-hypothetical 2016 presidential run, arguing that her prominence comes less from substantive policy proposals than Clinton-patented horse trading.
“I’m just thinking about the exit interview she did with President Obama when she left,” Brzezinski said. “I’ve never seen that before. It seems like deal after deal. …Deal to get in, deal to get out. Deal, deal. Give me back. You owe me. I’m telling you, it’s the Clintons all over the place, using deals to get where they need to go with no message.”
Klein and Rattner both argued for Clinton’s domestic policy savvy and foreign policy experience, to which Brzezinski asked, “What will she do for the middle class?”
“She hasn’t started running yet!” Klein objected.
“A lot of people who could potentially run, Joe, you get a sense of what they would do for the middle class,” Brzezinski replied. “You really know from the work they have done that they care deeply about the middle class.”
Watch the clip below, via MSNBC:
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