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Nancy Pelosi on Shutdown Negotiations: Trump ‘Doesn’t Know What He’s Talking About’

Nancy Pelosi is set to make history today as she’s sworn in for the second time as Speaker of the House — and she sat down with Today show host Savannah Guthrie for a wide ranging interview that serves as a good preview of the year to come.

Top of the bill: the partial government shutdown, which just entered its 13th day.

“This is the Trump shutdown through and through,” Pelosi told Guthrie on NBC. “That doesn’t mean we take any joy in the fact that there is a Trump shutdown — we want government to open.”

“Are you willing to come up and give him some of this money for the wall?” Guthrie asked.

“No, no. Nothing for the wall,” Pelosi replied. We’re talking about border security. There is no amount of persuasion he can do to say to us we want you to do something that is not effective, that costs billions of dollars, that sends the wrong message about who we are as a country.”

“If you don’t compromise, then why isn’t the shutdown partially your responsibility as well?” Guthrie pressed.

“It has nothing to do with us,” Pelosi replied. “It’s the president saying I will hold six agencies of government hostage to my campaign promise that I was going to build a wall, and that Mexico was going to pay for it. That is so ridiculous.”

Guthrie asked about Trump’s claim that Mexico is paying for the wall through a renegotiated trade deal, USMCA. “Do you buy that?” asked the Today show host.

“No,” Pelosi said. “The president either doesn’t know what he’s talking about or doesn’t want to know what he’s talking about. There’s no way that money from a trade agreement makes a profit that goes to pay for a wall.”

Watch above, via NBC.

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