Tucker Carlson Battles Dem Rep. Eric Swalwell on Evidence of Russia Collusion: ‘I’m Not Flacking For Trump!’
Fox News host Tucker Carlson had on Democratic Congressman Eric Swalwell Monday night for a thrilling and at times contentious interview, the majority of which was spent battling over the investigation into the Trump campaign’s ties to Russia.
Carlson first played a series of clips of Swalwell warning of Russian attacks on the U.S. elections — and the potential that Donald Trump‘s campaign colluded with Russia — before asking the California Democrat to provide evidence of his claims.
“Where’s the actual evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and Putin?” Carlson asked.
Swalwell proceeded to lay out the evidence available, beginning with the Russian hack of the DNC and efforts to weaponize U.S. social media from 2014 onwards, through to the first known Russian outreach to the Trump camp: when Felix Sater, a Russian-American and former Trump business partner, approached Michael Cohen in 2015 to push a Trump Tower in Moscow, as well as a meeting between Trump and Putin to help elect the businessman president.
The two approaches made, per Swalwell, were (1) to get candidate Trump and Putin together, and (2) to preview the hacked emails from Hillary Clinton‘s campaign.
Carlson and Swalwell went on to spar over Trump’s comments at a press conference during the 2016 campaign urging Russia to find Clinton’s deleted emails, with the Fox News host asking why Trump would make such comments so publicly if he was indeed colluding with Russia.
“I never accused him of being the smartest guy in the world, Tucker,” Swalwell replied. “I never accused him of that.”
“That’s the smoking gun right there?” Carlson asked.
“It’s part of the evidence,” Swalwell said. “An invitation made by the president. He’s not the smartest guy in the world.”
“Why would he do it in public?” Carlson pressed.
“Why did he admit to Lester Holt obstruction of justice in public?” Swalwell shot back. “There’s no ‘who could be so stupid as to admit the crime in public’ exception — he did it.”
Towards the end of the exchange, Carlson laid out evidence that the Trump administration has been far from favorable to Russia in its foreign policy, something the Fox News host laments. “In what sense has he been pro-Russia as president?”
“I think you’re giving him too much credit,” Swalwell said.
“I’m not flacking for Trump!” Carlson exclaimed. “I don’t think he should have done it — I criticize him for it on this show.”
Carlson has come under fire recently for turning a blind eye to news in favor of segments on consensual diaper changing and Fabio. Monday night, refreshingly, viewers were treated to a substantive and exciting conversation covering both sides of the Trump-Russia debate.
Watch above, via Fox News.
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