Tucker Carlson Battles Ex-Clinton Aide Over Voter Fraud: ‘Democrats Like Loose Voting Rules’
Fox News host Tucker Carlson squared off with Democratic strategist Richard Goodstein Thursday night during a debate over what can be done to fend off Russian interference in future elections — and claimed the Left relies on voter fraud to secure elections.
The age-old (and racially-charged) fib is routinely touted by certain conservatives seeking to undermine trust in elections, suggesting voters be mandated to produce identification at the ballot box to remedy the situation.
And that’s just what Carlson did.
“Why shouldn’t we do a forensic search of all voter roles to make sure no foreign citizens are registered vote,” he asked. “Russian agents, for example — that only American citizens could vote? Why wouldn’t we do that if we take this seriously?”
Already anticipating Goodstein’s counter-argument, Carlson added, “Democrats would freak out and call it racist, right?”
Carlson then went on to ask why paper ballots weren’t being used rather than electronic ballots, which he appears to suggest are more vulnerable to being compromised, and before his guest could reply, he answered his own question, claiming it was “because Democrats like loose voting rules because they benefit from voter fraud.”
PolitiFact‘s umpteenth check of that claim rates it false. In an investigation into Trump’s statement last January asserting there was “substantial evidence of voter fraud,” the organization notes that’s a myth it has “debunked again and again and again and again and again and again and again.”
Goodstein rejected Carlson’s voter ID suggestion, stating that it’s tougher for those with lower socioeconomic status to obtain a driver’s license.
“People inclined to vote, Democrats, blacks, Hispanics, and so forth, are the ones who ultimately are, I think, held to a standard that’s going to be very hard for them to meet in terms of IDs and so forth, driver’s licenses. I think, statistically, the people who are lower socioeconomically don’t have [a] driver’s license.”
He also noted that some people are faced with traveling “150 miles away to the office that gives you that ID,” which is not always possible.
Carlson called that a falsehood and an insult to minorities.
“I think it’s a very patronizing thing to say about a large group of people,” he said. “It’s not statistically true. I dug into the stats. It’s a lie.”
PolitiFact says the answer is murky. A similar claim was made in 2012 by a Texas state senator who said some residents, depending on where they live, had to travel 120 miles for a driver’s license or a simple ID car. That’s been rated half-true. PolitiFact determined that those near metropolitan areas wouldn’t be faced with such a trek, but that a small portion of the population could have to travel 120 miles or farther.
However, to add another layer of complexity, an 2015 NPR investigation revealed the difficulty low-income individuals face in paying fines for small driving infractions, which may result in the suspension of their licenses.
Fact-checking aside, watch the Carlson-Goodstein face-off in the clip above, via Fox News.
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