E. Jean Carroll attorney Roberta “Robbie” Kaplan told George Conway that former President Donald Trump flipped out on Alina Habba during a deposition and stormed out because she offered lunch to Kaplan’s team.
Kaplan led the team that just hit Trump with a bombshell $83.3 million judgment for defaming Carroll while he was president.
On Friday’s edition of Conway’s Bulwark podcast, George Conway Explains It All, Kaplan, Conway, and other guests traded stories — many of them about Trump.
In one exchange, told the stunning story of Trump’s tantrum at a deposition for an earlier fraud trial, in which he threw a pile of documents and stormed out because Habba had offered Kaplan’s team lunch.
But Kaplan also allowed that Trump was actually a bit “charming” as he joked with her after lunch that day:
ROBBIE KAPLAN: So he’s just getting increasingly irked at, during the deposition. That we’re about mid morning, 11:30 or so, and I say something like, I didn’t know what to call him.So I decided on sir. So I said, sir, we have, I just have one more topic I want to cover, and then we’ll break for lunch, if that’s okay with you.And he looked at me and he said, “Why do we have to break for lunch? Let’s just go straight through. This is a
waste of my time.”.And I said, well, I’m sorry, I wouldn’t do that. But we have a court reporter, we have biographer. They’re entitled to a lunch break. We have to break for lunch.And then you could kind of see the the wheels spinning in his brain. You could really almost see it.And he said, “Well, you’re here at Mar-A-Lago. What do you think you’re gonna do for lunch? Where are you going to get lunch?”.And so I said to him, well, you know, I raised this question with your attorneys yesterday, sir, and they graciously offered to provide us with lunch.At which point there was a huge pile of documents, exhibits sitting in front of him. And he took the pile and he just threw it across the table.SARAH LONGWELL: Because he was mad, you were going to eat lunch?Because they’d offered us a free lunch at Mar-A-Lago. Yeah.GEORGE CONWAY: And this is something, Sarah. I mean, I don’t know if you’ve ever had a deposition taken or attended one night.SARAH LONGWELL: I have no legal problems. (laughs)GEORGE CONWAY: When you find that. That’s way. So when you host a deposition, whether it be at your law offices or at your client’s offices or any place, it is customary to order lunchand get your adversaries a separate conference room where they can eat that lunch and do whatever they need to do during lunch and talk privately.And then you have your own conference room where you eat lunch with your client. And so it’s it is standard operating procedure.ROBBIE KAPLAN: Very civil.GEORGE CONWAY: Very civil. And he flipped out that his lawyers had.ROBBIE KAPLAN: He really scolded Alina for that. He was so mad at Alina.SARAH LONGWELL: Well, I hope those weren’t nuclear secrets.GEORGE CONWAY: Well, there was no ketchup. Fortunately, the ketchup had not yet been delivered, so it did not smear the floors–ROBBIE KAPLAN: He came back in and he said, well, how’d you like the lunch? And I said, well, sir, I had a banana. You know, I never really eat when I’m taking testimony. And he said, well, I told you, he’s kind of charming. He said, “I told you, I told them to make you really bad sandwiches, but they can’t help themselves here. We have the best sandwiches.GEORGE CONWAY: Yeah he can be funny. There’s no question about it.
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