1. 11:35 p.m.
I found Bill Carter‘s Sept. 27, 2004 article about the Conan-Leno Tonight Show enormously fascinating. It perfectly encapsulated the situation as it was back then — and the media universe in which that deal was struck. Here’s one sentence that stuck out for me immediately:
Mr. O’Brien, with his own contract set to expire in January of 2006, had made it plain in interviews that his goal was to be the host of an 11:35 p.m. late-night show soon.
This is a key sentence, because it addresses NBC’s main point: That they did not breach their contract, because they offered to keep Conan O’Brien as host of the Tonight Show — whenever it aired. O’Brien’s camp has maintained that the Tonight Show is indivisible from that 11:35 p.m. start time.
Ay, there’s the rub: Because apparently Conan’s contract never specified that timeslot. (I have not seen the contract, I am going off the reports cited.) Per TMZ:
We’re told Conan’s reps never even asked for a guaranteed time period when they negotiated his
contract — shocking, but true… As for Conan’s legal position, his claim is a lot more tenuous than first reported to us. We’re told Conan is arguing — given the history of “The Tonight Show” — there is an “implied” guarantee the show would begin at 11:35.
I disagree with TMZ — I don’t think Conan’s claim is tenuous. At all. On the contrary, not only is there a sound argument for 11:35
Gavin Polone, Mr. O’Brien’s manager and long-time friend, puts it in the plainest terms. ”There’s just no question that he’s going to be on earlier than 12:30,” he says. ”He’s going to 11:30. It’s going to happen.”There it is: the late-night star at 12:30 is pondering a move to 11:30 (it’s really 12:35 and 11:35, rounded off for convenience).
Carter’s piece is called “Conan’s Late Start.” “11:30” is mentioned 3 times before that clarification, followed by 7 mentions of “11:35.” Oh, there’s more: Carter refers to it as “the coveted 11:30 period, made famous by Jack Paar and Johnny Carson”; lest we miss the point of just how important that 11:35 slot is, Carter also calls it “
Ahem. Who said that the start time didn’t matter?
It matters — and it mattered, too, in drawing a distinction between Conan and David Letterman, whose exit from NBC and that 12:35 a.m. timeslot had been so bitter. Said Conan to Carter, then:
Mr. O’Brien takes pains to point out the distinctions. ”The difference with Dave, which even NBC will admit, is that there was no way Dave could continue to do the job at 12:30 with Jay as the ‘Tonight’ show host, because they were peers. I’m 15 years younger. With me at 12:30, you can still feel there’s order in the heavens somewhat.”
That may have been true in 2004, but in 2010, Conan had officially ascended. And the 11:35 timeslot was clearly part of that.
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