Good. It would go lower if the Human Economic Roadblock in the White House would get out of the way of the pipeline, Boeing in S.C., drilling for oil everywhere  ( They need to revisit the Clampett oil leases in Arkansas while they’re at it).

NOV 2008: “The economy shed 533,000 jobs in November, according to a government report Friday”

NOV 2011: “Employers added 120,000 jobs in November, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.”

Why would any sentient being trust the Republicans to run the economy again? Their past stewardship speaks for itself.

Joe Scarborough: New Unemployment Numbers Are ‘Great News For The President’

The world does not revolve around one guy, Morning Joe.  The guy is running around on the taxpayers tab, trying to collect a billion dollars in an attempt to keep a job that he’s already failed at. The news that some people are getting work is good news for the people getting work.

Great irony there Steve. You spam every article, regardless of authors focus, with ish about our President. Obama exerts a gravity far more powerful for you than for Joe.

It is good news for the President….but with all the other economic numbers, these too will be updated and not reported in a month or so; just like the last round of GDP numbers….lower than originally reported, but not re-reported.

The President however will over boast and pat himself on the back because he is the one, and his gloating will backfire. 
And to think, the media slammed Bush for an unemployment rate of 5% and praise Obama for one that is nearly 9%.  You just can’t beat having the media on your side.

“And to think, the media slammed Bush for an unemployment rate of 5% and praise Obama for one that is nearly 9%.  You just can’t beat having the media on your side”

Nice lie…..Bush left with an unemployement of 7.2% which was going to fall further before Obama could do anything

FRAUD…………….

With ZERO thanks to the Republicans and the DO NOTHING Congress for this drop in unemployment…..  In fact, in the past year, the Republicans in Congress voted NO on 17 bills that would spur the economy and job growth in the US.
 
What were they doing instead, Oh yeah, that’s right – they were busy making sure “In God We Trust” is the national motto.

lol….It was even 7.7%  not 7.2%.

Bad news for the obstructionists.  Time to hold the country hostage again.

lmao, how could Glovesdonahue see the hypocrisy? Being anti-obama has become so normal to him in every article, no matter the topic!

Too bad for you that both August and September were revised UP by a combined total of +70k jobs. 

And if you weren’t such a nitwit, you’d know that the unemployement figures are reissued on a regular basis, and GDP revisions are issued twice after the initial read.  Too bad you only watch Fox, where they don’t report the revised figures.  Most other reputable organizations do. 

But thanks for proving – yet again – what an uninformed nitwit you truly are.

Have fun crying in your bowl of cheerios, bizatch! 

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In this thread teabaggers will be angry the economy is improving.

Oh man!  +120k job gain this month, +70k job increase in Aug & September (on TOP of the already reported gains), and the unemployment rate ticking down!

Just think how much faster the job market & economy would improve if the ‘baggers weren’t doing everything in their power to DESTROY this economy!!!!!!!!!!

Congress turning pizza into a vegetable, has really jump started the jobs market.

Facts….then number fell from 320,000 who gave up looking for work (and are not counted) not from the 120,000 XMAS temp hires.  The facts prove this out.  The new hires where all in Service sector (retail) who the day after Xmas are fired.

Don’t forget pizza is now a vegetable!!!!!!!!!

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh are already planning to lie to people that it’s really 15%.

And declaring pizza as vegetable. They’re not even trying.

These facts on on every monthly report.  Only sheepeople nod their heads without reading and thinking.  We are still faking numbers and straight up lying to the sheepeople, we have learned nothing since the collapse.  Left…Right dont matter…..=  LIARS.  They get richer you dont.

This about sums it up:

http://tinyurl.com/yfx35tm

Too bad the unemployement rate is SEASONALLY ADJUSTED, and takes into account these fluctuations due to holiday hiring, construction work slowing down due to the weather, etc.
Try again, bozo!

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That’s a simple question to answer, Sparky.

In December, 2006 (the last month of the Republican House & Senate under Bush), the unemployment rate was 4.4% (which was within .2-points of where it was when Bush assumed office six years earlier); after the events of 9/11, as well as Bill Clinton’s dotcom bubble, Bush & the GOP Congress managed to keep unemployment almost EXACTLY where it was (on average) during the 1990s.  Five months later, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi passed the increase in the minimum wage.  What happened?  Immediately, unemployment began to rise.  It was at 5.0% by the end of the year, and it would rise another 2-points until George Bush left office.

When Bush left office, unemployment was at 7.3%.  Within two years of the Democrats controlling ALL of Congress and the White House, unemployment climbed another 3-points. 

In January of last year, the GOP took back the House.  What was the result?  The unemployment rate has fallen back a full point. 

This isn’t the Bush recession, this is the Pelosi/Reid recession.  Make no mistake though.  Unemployment is NOT at 8.6%.  It’s higher.  Much, much higher.

By the way, the phrase Mediaite is searching for is called “Labor Force Participation”.  Under Obama, it continues to slide (some of which is predictable because of our aging population), but unemployment is still high.  THAT’S the problem.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/business/sns-rt-us-usa-economy-snapanalysistre7b110t-20111202,0,7448022.story

Facts… By the end of the Bush term we were shedding 700,000 jobs a month. Now we’re adding jobs. No one is going to argue that things are great yet, but at least the economy isn’t in free fall as it was three years ago. That’s a significant achievement, except to those too partisan and deluded to admit the obvious.

Stock market is up, unemployment numbers are down, and Herbert Cain will be forced out of the race next week.

It’s good to be a liberal.

Really? You’re gonna take only two months out of a combined decade to support your argument? You are entitled to your opinion but if you are going to back up your opinion let’s use more reliable data, like trends.

You left this out:

“The decrease in the jobless rate reflected a
278,000 gain in employment at the same time 315,000 Americans
left the labor force.

“Unemployment in the U.S. unexpectedly
dropped in November to a two-year low, while employers added
fewer workers than projected.”

On a side note, job expansion is occuring while government jobs are being shed at a high rate… 20k in November alone which continues a very significant trend of public sector job loss. Right and left can and will debate the merits of public sector employment but if a Republican inherited a major jobs slide and climbed out of it with public cuts and private growth, socialist would not count amongst the charges leveled.

If you notice, there are none to be seen on this thread … they are hiding like the cowards they are … or they are all over at Huffington Post … man, that place is troll city right now.

Make no mistake.  For the Repubbaggers out there this is the WORST news they could have imagined.  They will redouble their efforts to block the President at every single turn in order to further damage the economy so that they can try to improve their chances of getting one of their dispicable candidates into the White House.  It won’t happen however.  But watch – the only thing they have is the economy.  They will do whatever they can to damage it further, regardless of the effects on the American people – just to get one of their nutcase, backwards candidates elected.  The President will prevail, however.  Goodbye Teabaggers.

You got to love it- libs are cheering a 8.6% unemployment rate- a rate higher than any month that Bush was in office and a rate that is lower because over 300,000 people finally gave up looking for work because there isn’t any!

Congrats liberals- you sure have created the American dream!

Yes, its Obama’s hope and change at work- you just hope you will have some change left in your pocket.

I didn’t know that of you but thanks for pointing that out … I loathe frauds so I will stay clear of you.

Tina struck a nerve I see.

What you posted is BS. It’s like saying after Captain Bush and first mate Cheney drunkenly drove the supertanker US Valdez into the reef, only 1 million barrels had leaked by the time they vacated the ship. Then blaming the rest of the spill  on the new Captain and  cleanup crew.

Repubs in the House have passed over 20 jobs bills which the Dem Senate refuse to discuss. How many Obama job bills has either house passed? 0 , zero

a rate higher than any month that Bush was in office

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

just
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Failed at? Obama is keeping you busy.

7.7%- Obama would kill for that!

LOL

Thats the BRIGHT spot.

Truth hurts don’t it?

hahahahahahaha

I believe this good news is due to GOD’s happiness, now that we have reaffirmed that “In God we trust”.

See we didnt have to raise taxes after all!

:)

I will pay £10,000,000,000 just to see you post something that is both factual and on topic.

This thread is gonna be nasty I tell ya…..oh well..haters gonna hate.

Your not a bigger thinker.  You still think all these numbers have not been gamed like they have been for the last decade.   Really, yet YOU AVOID the hard fact that today’s numbers are more about sheepeople  giving up looking for work not the success of Obama policies.   Like the last 3 drops…phony. look the report up and read it dont trust Chuck Tood, Mika or Hannity.  Read and think for yourself.. 3X the number gave up looking so what moved the ticker?  As for seasonally ajusted, we will see what happens in Janurary just like the last 3 summers when they were seasonally “adjusted”.   Its just like those magical budget cuts/saving that on paper are 100′s of billions but in reality turnout to be $1.97 in savings.  Think sheep think.

Could not have said it better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b5aW08ivHU

Obama is not Bush- doesnt need to kill the economy to reach 7.7%…….all he needs is re-election

Look at all the Baggers on here trying to tell us all how awful this news really is… LMAO!  You do realize you look idiotic, right?  Oh, this is a wonderfully fun day.  Keep blowing, Baggers!

You 1st troll.

Just because you are losing, stop your crying.

You got to love it- libs are cheering a 8.6% unemployment rate- a rate higher than any month that Bush was in office and a rate that is lower because over 300,000 people finally gave up looking for work because there isn’t any!Congrats liberals- you sure have created the American dream!Yes, its Obama’s hope and change at work- you just hope you will have some change left in your pocket.

Yes, but you left this out

http://tinyurl.com/yfx35tm

Obama is proud he has 8.6% unemployment?

LMAO

What you conveniently ignore is the TREND, which has reversed from being an economy in free fall to one that has stabilized:

http://craigconnects.org/2010/02/rate-of-job-loss-bush-v-obama.html

You’re proof of what happens when you get all your information from AM radio.

Well at least we are not losing 700,000 jobs per month.

as you said
LOL

The pipeline route was already getting nixed by the locals; all Hilary Clinton did for President Obama was endorse a fait accompli. Besides, it appears the “job growth” effect there was exaggerated – by the Canadian company wanting the pipeline built – by a fact of ten. You got that: TEN TIMES as many jobs as actually would come from building the pipeline. But none of that matters: LOCAL interets, namely farmers, ranchers and other land holders, led the charge against the approval.

Boeing in S.C. is now a happy ending story, as there ain’t no Boeing in S.C. no more. Boeing has settled with the collective bargaining agents and now the unions are going through ratification; if approved, and right now it’s looking a sure thing, ALL the jobs stay in Washington State. Boeing is happy, the unions are happy – everyone but G-D and Rrrs and Nikki Haley, happy happy happy; they all said, but who really cares?

Drill here drill there drill everywhere is the stupidest talking point the Rrrs ever came up with.

The BIG problem here is the extent to which government hiring and job losses are causing a drag on the recovery. But, since the Eurozone has maybe two weeks tops before the things falls apart completely and we’re all hurled into a world-wide depression that will prove to rival the Great Depression of the Dirty Thirties, it won’t really matter that much.

Poor thing- try to disprove anything I posted.

You can’t!

What a huge steaming pile of fresh wet manure this is. The zombie winger attempt at re-writing history continues.

People are cheering that the economy is improving a little bit compared to to doom and gloom from previous months.

BTW, I have the Obama stash of money! lmao

You got to love it- (R)egressives are laughing at a mere 120,000 new jobs when their boy (Bush) was LOSIING 700,000 jobs per month. 

That is a an 820,000 jobs per month turnaround.

You are the joke MORON.

Well, he’s actually right on that part.

Yes this is good news for the president especially if the trend holds through next year.If it does and even if the trend doesn’t get us in but so good of a place Obama will win no question,it will be just enough to put him over the top.It’s going to be close no matter what because there is a lot more to the election than a little bit of improvement but in a close contest good news will win the day.

Of course it shows us where we are now that these kinds of numbers would be considered so great,that this would be enough to stir up so much commentary and it’s important that we don’t forget the road we’ve been on just because it’s a little less bumpy.

And before people start shouting “inherited” they should be talking about what was done with the inheritance,which is more or less nothing.This batch of mildly better news is probably a lot more about the cyclical nature of the economy than it is about what has been done to try and fix it.There are still a lot of people out there hurting,and some of those numbers we just got are people with college degrees working at McDonald’s and such,

Frankly,speaking strictly from an election standpoint,I hope these numbers don’t get much better for awhile>Why?Because numbers are abstracts,not real world people and their reality.If people go to the poles swept away by numbers and vote because numbers look better that’s an uninformed choice.

Also numbers can be manipulated to send a better message than is really there.you see a headline but the underlying story is what is real.Over 300K people gave up.Is that a sign of improvement?

There are still a lot of things that could turn this the other way.Europe,world issues and destabilization,and bad news here could all turn this south,we’ve already had that happen.

But if this is a trend that holds even slightly be ready for four more years of…well you know…

What a moron.

What part of “Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid took over Congress in January of 2007 when unemployment was at 4.4%” don’t you get?

Within MONTHS of the Democrats taking over Congress, unemployment began to rise, and when the Dems had the WH and Congress, unemployment began to rise precipitously.

Those are facts.  I’m sorry you can’t understand what you read.

But this isn’t 2009, .

And yes, our debt is now 15 trillion and Obama gave us our 1st,. credit downgrade ever.

I’m watching the right going completely nut’s this morning trying to
explain away the improved unemployment numbers.  They obviously forgot
that this president inherited an economy that was shedding 700,000 jobs
per month, the banks were all failing and GM was about to shutter its
doors.  We were heading for a great depression and the whole world was
in economic panic.

And then walks in this skinny, tall, basketball-playing dude from
Hawaii who was wearing sandals and smoking Kool cigarettes. He told
Hillary to stand-down and McCain to “relax, I got this.”  The right was
calling him a socialist, the left was calling him a conservative, Beck
was calling him a racist and Mark Halperin was calling him a “d##k.”  
And what did this great president do in the face of this unappreciative
nation:

1. Rescued us from another Great Depression
2. Saved the banks.
3. Stopped the biggest oil disaster in US history.
4. Killed America’s greatest enemy OBL.
5. Repealed DADT.
6. Restored America’s legitimacy in the world.
7. Fighting a competent war on terror.
8. Brought the stock market from 6500 to 12,000
9. Created well over 3 million jobs with the stimulus package according to the CBO.
10.  Gave the 99% a tax break.
11. Rescued Americans from the pirates without injuring the captured.
12.  Ending the war in Iraq.
13. Getting rid of a dictator in Libya without the loss of one American soldier.
14. Established a national health care program.
15. Passed the Lilly Ledbetter Equal Pay Act for Women.
16. Passed a new Start Treaty.
17. Saved GM from bankruptcy.
18. Passed a Credit-Card Bill of Rights.
19. Brought home hostages from China, Iran and Egypt without ever firing a shot.
20. Has now managed an economy that has produced 19-straight months of private sector job growth.

What more?

What more must this great president do to gain the respect and appreciation he deserves?

From the time he walked in to the oval office, he’s been cleaning up a
terrible economy, horrendous job loses, poorly managed wars,
incompetence in federal responses to disaster and our damaged standing
in the world.

This man is not just a “competent” he’s already a great president!!

Blah Blah Blah

Name them.

Poor widdle- that 120k was LESS than was expected!

as you say: LOL

This is like you spent 9 years and 364 days spending billions in public monies to construct a bridge project over say the Missouri, then one day your project coordination team came down and blew the whole thing up with explosives. You would say – Hey, ON AVERAGE they were constructing!

315,000 MORE people stopped looking for work, and were eliminated from the count – End of “bump”!

The Networks will try to hide this fact, but FOX already has it all over FBN and the Mother Ship!

The only question on 2012 still remains how much of the Democratic Party goes DOWN with the Prez!

ruddy, you have no money and no job

piss poor analogy the captain of the Valdez didnt have to wait for 600 people (2 houses) to present him a plan or course of action.  He who controls Cogress controls fiscal policy and how and where money is spent.   6 grade stuff here.  Of course you hold Dodd, Frank, Schumer, Reid, Pelosi 100% guiltless.  Look up Sen. Schumer’s Wall St donors and how he voted this year or 5 years ago FILTH.  Then of course Obama got more Banker/Big Biz election money last time in the history of the world.  FACT.  And magically the Wall St profits are currently at record highs yet he’s your hero Obama, King of 1% ers.  OH review oil profits for the last 3 years too.   Sheep.

Ah yes – our Friday a.m. dose of Genuine American Frontier Gibberish.

What rot you post. It’s like your brain and fingers are directly hooked into Drudge and Breitbart.

I love sheep who post other sheep’s thinking. 

Not a good day for Limbaugh today as also the number of jobs added last couple of months were revised ‘upward’, something that contradicts with his “perpetual downward revision” (I called it that) conspiracy theory.

So expect Rush to sound down in the mouth today. A bad day for Rush is a good day for America

Having said that and before the hardcore lefties start attacking Bush and praise the One, this drop from 9.0 to 8.6 is mostly due to a drop in participation-rate and the 99-week’ers benifits expiring. The number of added jobs was 120k lower than the expected 145k

Also expect Rush to sound vindicated about his 8.x% unemployment theory where he predicted an 8 handle in the unemployment number just in time for Obama to tout that as a success

dear, I need not do your homework.

Google it.

said better, right on.  See numbers confuse the sheep.

That would be the ten billion pounds of crap rudeboy11 has stored up in his long intestine.  Man, it’s gonna be ugly when he works THAT out …

Your numbers are accurate and provide good insight.  But truthfully, better for the economy for the media to oversimplify the numbers.  Looks like a glacier moving recovery right now, and ignorance might be bliss.   The fact that most of the unemployment dip is from people ‘giving up’ is worrisome.  

Technically, only pizza SAUCE.

LMAO

Yeah, that 1st ever credit downgrade was the work on a great president as was how he lead more people into poverty, welfare and housing losses.

4 more years!

And for very very good reasons, thank you.

Don’t worry, that’ coming. If the only thing Obama does in 2012 is let the Bush Tax Cuts expire, we have a fighting chance at still maybe saving this p.o.s. banana republic.

Now take your mouse and look up when other bubbles burst, say, I dont know the .com bubble under Clinton, Carter or say the gaint bubbles under FDR. You point is more about economic bubbles. And yes its more than politics.

Notice how class-act Romney’s response was. That is presidential. Had it been one of the tea party pondering candidates, they’d change the subject and start bashing Obama for Libya or some such not even distantly related subject

like Clinton’s tech bubble handed to Boy Bush.

LOL

That’s so funny- Bush was in office 8 years- not one- barry has been in office 3 years and has destroyed the country-

almost all Federal numbers are gamed and have been for a long while.

You ascribe credit to the President on these items, where actual causal relations debunk the majority of your contentions.

btw, I awoke this morning and the sun was shining…Do you think? Might it be?
lol!

Bush was not president for just 2008-2009- the economy was great under Bush until late 2007- economy has stunk under Barry for all of his 3 years.

you add nothing but 6 grade bs.   Just pass a note to your coworker.  If you work.

You ascribe credit to the President on these items, where actual causal relations debunk the majority of your contentions.             btw, I awoke this morning and the sun was shining…Do you think? Might it be?lol!

Cabrera said it well, hopefully the news of the 8.6% feeds a sense of optimism which feeds consumers to buy  With so much money on the sidelines, optimism is a good thing..   

funny how the Press just doesnt seem to report that.  Mika, chuck Todd never mention it. Then you got intellectual giants like WhataBaby.  see Blah Blah means they know it but dont want to deal with it. Its sticking a fingers in your ear and singing “row row your boat”, facts their a b^tch.

more nonsense.  What colors of finger paints do you use?

When you celebrate a 8.6% unemployment rate, you know your country is in a bad, bad place.  I believe the unemployment rate has to be at 6% to be healthy and keep up just with population growth.

Better than bad news… 

The Democrats didn’t have control  of Congress because the Republicans filibustered everything and it required a super majority to get anything passed,the Democrats did not have a super majority to override the filibusters. Then you had Bush who threatened to veto any bill he  did not like. The Democrats did not control anything, the Republicans just stepped up their game of obstructions to record levels at the time. Google Republicans set new filibuster  record in 2008. ( or any year after that)

Sorry, but even if only half of the things on that list could be directly credited to Obama, it’s still a better electoral argument than asking voters to return to the, ahem, “peace and prosperity” of the Bush years, which is pretty much what the Republicons are campaigning on.

Dear stupid…

You are actually trying to claim that raising the minimum wage caused the mortgage meltdown?  The Fair Minimum Wage act of 2007, which didn’t affect 13 states that already had a higher minimum wage than $7.25/hr, and didnt even take full effect until late July of 2009…forced Lehman Brothers and AIG to collapse in 2008 (because those companies had SOOOO many minimum wage workers)?

Idiocy.

you actually think america is fixed. lol.  Not by a long shot.  1 trllion plus to be added for at least 6-8 years according to the Fed.  Also  These numbers bounce around and wait untill the 2 million plus people who quit looking get added BACK again when they start looking again.Try adding 1.5 pct to the number.

News of the world?  I bet your still in your mommies basement playing Xbox, you’ve been to Burger King and back..  Let me know when you have been to 14 countries (while lived in 2) plus 4 US States.

I’m sure you are one of the unemployed…more like unemployable !! 
Who would hire such a nutcase ??

lived in 4 states been to 36

The sad fact is that the real unemployment rate is not the unemployment rate, but the underemployment rate that stops people from being able to find either one solid job or two solid jobs instead of one job that won’t allow them government assistance.

The economy is horrible and for people to pretend that it’s not is not only untrue, but just desperate. These numbers are always revised and I’m sorry, but if people are screaming that they’re happy for retail jobs, then the economy is worse than we think it is. True unemployment is in the teens because it includes underemployment or those that aren’t part of the mix.

Oh and for those that are talking about the numbers fluctuating in the stock market, that’s a false high because analysts are saying it’s because the Feds of multiple countries are saying that they’ll help each other out which means inflation. Geniuses.

Great news!  To bad the Tea Baggers are holding up the jobs bill.

http://civiccircus.com/2011/06/nancy-pelosi-everything-is-bushs-fault/

Let’s not forget when the collapse began.

Joe Scarborough??
Talking about a “when a tree falls in the forest moment”
There is something here !!!  Got to be!!!  
Newt must have spanked Goober’s ass once or twice way back when
Newt was speaker and Goober was a “least influentual” (thanks GQ,) member
of Congress, much like his current status as MSNBC host!

Liberals have never been very good at economics. They still haven’t figured out the difference between profit and profit margin.

That list is hilarious, Tommy.  The “disapproval of FCC Net Neutrality Regulations act” is a jobs bill?

Exactly. But liberals need to put on a happy face to make our Marxist president look good.

I hope you realize your site makes you look like one of the demented types currently on an FBI watch list. At first I thought it was a joke, but I’m pretty sure you believe those delusions. 

This was not a lie.  http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/lns14000000 Bush's unemployment rate averaged 5% until 2008 and many news media outlets ran stories of how we were headed into recession.  Either you weren’t paying attention then or you’re being disingenuous now 

You know anything that comes up that is positive you are going to say it is inconsequential. That is the way you people are. Your vitriol for this president is so great that if he said the sun will rise in the east you would say it really rises in the west. There is NOTHING that you will not find to complain about. Of course it was GWB who put us in two wars and sunk the economy but it is all Obama’s fault. You are pathetic and stupid. Please stop posting you just embarrass your self with every thing you write. 

“this p.o.s. banana republic”

Turn that frown upside down.  The least polished rube still resonates with a certain charm.  The grain?  At times it appears as amber waves.  The makeovers can be wonderfully extreme… particularly when Sears gets involved.

No one is realistically going to argue that these are “great” numbers and it’s time to break out the champagne. But a significant turnaround has taken place over the last three years that seemed unimaginable back in the very scary days of late 2008.

We had an economy that was collapsing in on itself and was paying the price of years of excess, greed, bad decision-making by everyone (Republicans and Democrats alike), unfunded wars, unfunded tax cuts and a housing bubble that was a disaster waiting to happen. The fact that the economy is starting to stabilize somewhat is a somewhat remarkable thing, given the trajectory when Obama took office.

The question is whether the Republicans have a credible plan to speed growth and build on this improvement, without taking us back to the era of the Wall Street casino and tax breaks galore. So far none of the GOP candidates give me any confidence that they’re capable of that.

Yes they did – they had the Super Majority in the Senate for 2 years, from 2008 – 2010.

And then that Murderer died, and Scott Brown, a Republican, won the Senate seat in Mass.  That gave the Democrats 59 seats.

And your statistic about 2008 is about the wrong term of Congress.  Bush was president with that Statistic.  For two years, when unemployment went up 3%, the Democrats controlled the presidency, the House of Representative, and had a fillibuster-proof majority in the Senate. 

Kicking the can down the road was a fait accompli?

When you change your ID name, then we’ll talk about positive thinking. :) Hypocrite.

hahahahaahahahaha

Wow your name is my name too!

So is this dismal economy Congress’ fault or Obama’s? Here’s the calculation you’re using: Whichever is Republican is to blame. Not terribly sophisticated, that.

Rex, it’s pointless, these yahoos just want corporations to have complete free reign of the nation.

What did the Republicans filibuster? What did Bush veto? Please explain.

Here, I’ll help you out with the Bush vetoes. http://uspolitics.about.com/od/electionissues/tp/Bush-Vetos.htm

Which of those vetoes crashed the economy?

It was actually 9.3% if you coubt the first 3 weeks of January. That means a net job loss for press Bush in 8 years.

Yeah! Except it’s absolutely nothing like that. Idiot.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/mitt-romney-on-new-jobless-numbers-obama-will-have-a-hard-time-putting-perfume-on-this-pig/

Doh!

obama 2012 and beyond…..

When has the government ever been vacated?  We’re on our 44th president now, did our 43rd fire all the career employees that do all the work  as the political figureheads come and go?  This is not a third world country and your analogy really sucks and shows you obviously have no grasp of how the economy works or what happened leading up to ’08.

barry has lost  a net 2+ million.

FACT–MANY GETTING UNEMPLOYMENT WORK ON THEIR OWN AND ARE ‘SELF EMPLOYED’…

so quit the nonsense…

Think- if the libs can get 2 million more to stop looking for work, they can brag that unemployment is down to 6.5%

Congress didn’t play a big role in that downgrade?

and cons have never been good at anything but creating fear, emptying the cookie jar and feeding the rich–while creating more poor…

still too stupid to understand that the more people who participate creates more wealth for everyone–including the rich..

but the cons do not feel good about themselves unless everyone else suffers..

us liberals feel better when everyone is doing well

I hope Mitch McConnell and John Boehner put their heads together this weekend and come up with some new ways to tank this economy and obstruct any economic progress. They must not allow this Kenyan Socialist a second term.

Wait a minute, wasn’t there some other group involved in that. I seem to recall a group of people who held up a routine vote on raising the debt ceiling refusing all attempts to compromise and almost sending us into a default. I can’t quite place their name, but Im sure I’d know it if I heard it.

You mean to address Rex, Widdle and exGOP…..they are all the same ID.

How much money had the Bamster thrown away per Solyndra? Wasted money, failed concepts, financial backers….seriously.

Interesting, I don’t see many tea partiers in here this morning……they must be ‘baggin the pain away!!

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Your facts are correct, you just left out some important ones. Like the fact that Bush presided over the housing bubble which collapsed right as he was leaving office. Obama walked into the shit storm and has been slowly but steadily turning it around as pointed out by exGOPman. He wasn’t arguing with your facts, he was pointing out the flawed basis they were supporting.

I recall that didn’t it go something like this?”The fact that we’re here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. Leadership means ‘The buck stops here.’ Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better. I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America’s debt limit.”LMAO!

Except, ahem, no one’s campaigning on anything of the sort!.

The GOP just has to do a better job of exposing these Straw-Men arguments through the calculated narrative of a Democratic-advocacy media.

Sounds like some of those people with college degrees make great Santa Clauses.

Solid analysis of the numbers:

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/12/02/november-unemployment-rate-down-to-8-6-120k-jobs-added/

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-12-02/u-s-jobless-rate-unexpectedly-declines-to-8-6-payrolls-rise-by-120-000.html

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/key-charts-nfp-report-records-jobless-duration-and-people-who-want-job-civilian-labor-force-plu

So, I’m reading that 400,000 jobs per month need to be added in order for the rate to go down.

This is great news. No more Obama social engineering for the last year since the tea party took over a year ago.
Dosen’t take long once you neutralise the bolshevieks.

Please post your fact source.  I think you meant to say …all the illegals and multi-generation minorities on the handout plus all the fakers using other SS numbers or all those low income (poor dems) working under the table.

Actually, the numbers will not be “seasonally adjusted” until after the season is over.  That’s why these miraculous numbers quietly change back in six weeks.

315,000 MORE people stopped looking for work, and were eliminated from the count – End of “bump”!

The Networks will try to hide this fact, but FOX already has it all over FBN and the Mother Ship!

You almost sound smart, so tell me how many dozens of Job’s bill the House has passed and the Senate wont even look at?  Hint: between 30 and 40.  If you reply doesn’t start with the exact number dont bother.

worse  Obama is a “leader”

You have got to be shitting me. Name me one, ONE “job-creating” program or bill or ANYTHING that your blessed tea party has done since taking power. Just one.

Yeah, no other country on Earth had a bad economy when the USA did , did they?

well–since i never said any of that….
that is YOU creating some warped sense of reality based on your hate and ignorance…

maybe in hillbilly land where you live things are pretty bad..
i live in Miami and if you want work–there is work….
there are many people–HIGHER END WHITE CITIZENS.. who lost their ‘high paying’ jobs, collect unemployment but still install water heaters, lay tile, paint etc..
no it is not 6 figures like it used to be–but they are being subsidized  by the govie—this is in Congressman West’s district btw

SEE ILLEGALS DO NOT GET UNEMPLOYMENT OR GOVIE HANDOUTS–THEY ‘HAVE TO’ WORK..

so please–quit being ignorant..
if you were really worried about this stuff–you would be pissed at conservatives more since they give white collar welfare….
please fee free to post ‘THE FACT SOURCE’ of the illegals getting the handouts…i have never know or seen them..

but i do see a lot of fat ass white people getting checks~

Really? You mean the Dems who held up that routine vote when Reagan was in office?

“In 1985, for example, Congress waited nearly three months after the debt limit was reached before it authorized a permanent increase. In 1995, four and a half months passed between the time that the government hit its statutory limit and the time Congress acted. And in 2002, Congress delayed raising the debt ceiling for three months. It took three months to raise the debt limit back in 1985 “

It happened on Obama’s watch- Obama had a deal with Boehner for $800 billion in new revenues and then reneged on it.

you mean the economy that just had RECORD BLACK FRIDAY SALES???
that one?

where people stood in line for hours to buy $500 Tory Burk and Michael Kors HANDBAGS???

too bad pablov—the bell has rung…eat your words…
the dems again—fixed what the cons screwed up..

USA USA USA 

Amazing how the Obots completely buy into this BS…soo sad!!

Then again they voted for a fairy tell!!

Evidently Christmas is Oblamers new jobs program

Deregulating Wall Street, continuing unfunded tax breaks for the rich, slowing down our withdrawal from Afghanistan, repealing health care reform, restoring Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, etc.

Yup. Pretty much warmed-over Bush policies.

Here are a bunch:

http://majorityleader.gov/JobsTracker/

How many has barry passed!

Stopping the ObaMao agenda! Will do wonders for the economy. He hasn’t been able to pass anything that he has proposed in the last year thank god.
And by the way there have been about 15 proposals from the house that have died in the dem senate on ways to boost the economy….real proposals not these fraud make believe “jobs.”

all i know is down here in south florida–LIBERAL COUNTRY..
housing has stabilized and even gone up in many areas and the stores have been full for a while now..

maybe you poor bastards in conservative areas should move to a liberal area—

OHIO AND INDIANA-$7 AN HOUR WORK-LIVE IN $50,000 HOUSE..
liberal Miami? $15 an hour work–$150,000 house…

the problem with america is conservative areas have high unemployment, high welfare and disability, high crime and low production..

liberal areas are high pay, high output, high production…and paying for the rest of you cry baby America haters…

Here’s the short version:
When Bush left office, the unemployment rate was 7.8% (highest in 15 years) and RISING (It was 4.3% when he took office, by the way). The economy was losing 650,000 to 800,000 jobs a month when he finally, blessedly, left the stage. Under Obama, unemployment’s upward trend peaked at 10% early in his term, then dropped, plateaued, and is now declining again. And the economy is steadily creating jobs. Not enough, maybe, but a lot more than none.
In other words, Obama is slowly but surely cleaning up Bush’s mess, and you Republicans have NOTHING.

those were sales jobs in an economy fueled by GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIZED HOUSING AND ENERGY..

so you saying the government should be doing more?????

Proposing a partisan bill that you know has absolutely no chance of making it through the upper chamber is a tantrum and a political stunt, not an actual proposal. You got nothin’.

In truth, there’s a ton of money on the sidelines, and much is from fear.   A little false optimism is a good thing for the economy, could push our growth a bit stronger.   Truth is we’re in a very slow, very ugly, slow recovery.  Denial is not such a bad thing right now.  

Why would one want to disprove the fact that liberals have created the American dream?

Oh you mean like ObaMaos only budget proposal that got shot down like 99-0 in the senate.

By the way do you know YOUR president and senate have not passed a budget in over 3 years???

realjoe,  there hasn’t been anything in that cookie jar for decades so Obama shattered it to make sure nothing is going to be in it for decades to come.  He expects us to live hand to unions, green energy fiascos and campaign contributers ass polishing.

How much participation are you going to get out of people when there is no one to hire them?  How many more regulations and tax burdens are going to be laid on an employers ability to allow people to participate.  Regulations, tax increases, fees, etc. increases the cost of every single hire.  That hire is a responsibility  an employer assumes, hopefully, on a long term basis.  All those costs are taken into consideration before anyone is hired.

We are operating with a skeleton crew right now, we can’t hire, but we still help in our communities.  We are feeding a neighbor that got his hours cut so drastically that he was living on bologna sandwiches, I just cook larger meals and hubby takes him plates, give him aluminum cans from the shop to recycle and hire him to do our lawn work.  I drive another neighbor to appointments, feed several cats that have been abandoned.  I also collect unwanted items in my community, take the items to a mission, and shop local thrift stores for several families in need, and you know what?  Helping these people and little creatures makes me feel damn good.  Sure shoots your petty theory all to hell!

hahaha

You are seriously retarded.

You conveniently left out the fact that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were being run by Dem operatives and supported by Dems on the financial committees in the House and Senate who fought against privatizing Fannie and Freddie . Frank got big donations from FMae and Dodd got sweetheart loans from the King of all sub-prime banks, Countrywide.

Please. You sound stupider and more desperate with every post. Putting forward hyper-partisan, dumb legislation with no chance of passage isn’t leadership, it’s manipulation. And you’re obviously very easily manipulated that you would hold this out as some kind of achievement.

Liberals have given us the American nightmare- that’s who is marching in the streets.

Black Friday was great numbers, the problem is deep discounts were early this year, which COULD make us more optimistic than will turn out.   Right now they’re seeing good retail on the low-end (dollar store) and the high end (luxury brands), we’ll wait and see how the rest is going.  The fact that the Dollar Store is posting better sales than Walmart is a bit scary.   

No, he’s not claiming that at all, stupid.

The minimum wage increase has negatively impacted minority hires and our youth severly.  Study up.

Yeah well Bush’s avg unemplyment number for his terms was like 5.5%.

And again ObaMao hasn’t been able to pass anything. And what has passed like Castrocare is going to be thrown out.Which is a great sign for the economy.

You mean like Obama does?

He still hasn’t explained how he is going to pay for his jobs bill which he said he would do back in September.

Obama is also a massive liar !

LOL

I love this- libs should be happy that unemployment is down, but still all they have to offer is name calling and their hate.

I say we are winning!

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28

Obama on his muslim faith.

What is a fairy tell?

Well, ain’t this a pot looking for a kettle!

What you people seem to be omitting. And by “you people” I mean dems… Is that, it’s Christmas time. Every year right around this time unemployment goes down a touch, so not only will it go back up after Christmas, these are not good jobs. It’s just your normal, average, retail Christmas bump. 

If one attributes the first 19 days of January 2009′s job losses to Bush, and the remaining 11 days of job losses to Obama, the private sector shed 346,000 jobs during the Bush administration (the private sector gained a net 141,000 jobs if one attributes all of January 2009′s job numbers to Obama, and all of January 2001′s numbers to Bush).

In contrast, under President Obama’s administration, the private sector has still lost a net 1.44 million private sector jobs (1.77 million if one attributes the remaining 11 days of job losses in January 2009 to Obama, and 2.29 million if one attributes all of January 2009′s losses to him).

In addition- 1st. ever credit downgrade, more in poverty, on welfare and losing their homes.

”
“Number of Americans in poverty at record high”
Almost 16 percent of country, 49.1 million, now meet criteria, Census Bureau says

U.S. Food-Stamp Use Reaches Record 45.8 Million, USDA SaysNovember 02, 2011, 1:24 AM EDT 

He’s doing both.

Odd take. You should consider the current effort on the Payroll Tax that Obama has been working so hard to advance. Lots of interesting action on the Hill that will most likely result in a win for the President.

http://www.tnr.com/blog/timothy-noah/98064/the-gop-crackup

Why are our liberal friends so angry about this?

Your plastic messiah!!

You are funny.

Fannie and Freddie are great talking points, and they did contribute in a small part to the collapse, but it was a small part. Your right democrats did get money from the banks, but you ignore that the republicans took the exact same cash. All of them are guilty of the same crimes, but you only want to put the blame on one side.

Thats fine. Pay for it.Cut goverment.
The stupid bastard wants to cut the nuts off the only “pay as you go” program Social security in order to buy votes.

The incompetent one promised that unemployment would not go over 8% if
the porkulus was passed…..the porkulus was passed, albeit it was done
in the middle of the night on a Sunday and taxpayer money was used as
bribery.

Yet the State ran media is celebrating this temporary holiday hiring and
people who have quit looking for jobs as a means for celebrating and
praising their chosen one!!

Must be nice to have the loyal media in ones back pocket regardless how horrible one is!!

Nice cut job.

They might have to put on an elf outfit for their supper for change.
Instead of sitting home in a cloud of their own flattulence navel gazing on why people don’t like socialism.

If one attributes the first 19 days of January 2009′s job losses to Bush, and the remaining 11 days of job losses to Obama

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

How kind of you.
Obama gets a FULL 19 days to fix the mess.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Mighty kind of you DIMWIT!

Wouldn’t be hard to revise the August rate up being as though zero jobs were reported.  70,000 jobs for 2 months, whoop di do!

And what have we here?

“When the unemployment rate declines, we want to see both employment and participation increase as discouraged workers return to the labor force. Today, we got the former, but not the latter, making the 0.4 percent drop look a bit suspect,” Neil Dutta, US economist at Bank of America Merrill Lynch, told clients. “We would not be surprised to see the unemployment rate give back some of its decline in the coming month(s).”

http://www.cnbc.com/id/45521793

Looking desperate to attempt to put lipstick on this pig.

Actually he IS claiming that, stupid.

“Five months later, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi passed the increase in
the minimum wage.  What happened?  Immediately, unemployment began to
rise.  It was at 5.0% by the end of the year, and it would rise another
2-points until George Bush left office.”

He just put the entire fallout from the mortgage collapse on Pelosi/Reid and a bill that had absolutely no effect whatsoever until July of 08, and was not fully implemented until July ’09.

“Increasing the minimum wage does not lead to the short- or long-term loss of low-paying jobs…”

http://newscenter.berkeley.edu/2010/12/01/minimumwagejobs/

Huh- more people left the workforce than got jobs and the unemployment
rate went down.  This sounds fishy to me.  It’s probably just the
beginning of the snow job coming from the BO admin in the final year of
his term.

Good to see guys like Scarborough are fodder for Obama and Co.

1. Bill Clinton gutted Glass-Steagall & a Dem Congress led by Frank bastardized Fannie & Freddie, turning them into Democratic Slush Funds for procuring votes.

2. You don’t “fund” tax breaks, and the GOP has proposed numerous plans to change the tax code entirely.

3. ?

4. ObamaCare? lol – 70% of the people want that albatross removed! 

5. How about restoring responsible childbearing instead? End the enslaving Democrat Welfare Plantation.

Yep, the Bush straw-man being dragged out again by the failures of a corrupt Administration.

It’s all coming down to 2012…and we supporters of the New and Improved GOP are fine with that!

No matter how hard they try to derail the economy the Republicans just cant quite get the job done, just like everything else they try to do.   The “:Bikini Graph” continues its upward march despite every effort of the Republicans to kill it.  

Stonepark/Notsofast!!

Is that you?

read your above post..
you must be a really shitty business person..
you claim you cannot hire anyone but you can spend endless hours and resources feeding cats, driving people around and whatever….

let me help you out…
instead of driving people around, feeding whoever..
GO GET MORE WORK…HIRE SALES PEOPLE..HIRE PART TIME PEOPLE..
there is plenty of work but i bet you want that HIGH PROFIT margin huh>>>

so do what i do..
LOWER YOUR PRICE A LITTLE, GET MORE WORK…
see it it better to have a 100 nickles than 3-4 quarters..

i do better work, faster and at a better rate than my competitors…
we are in America–you can expand as large as you want..open other locations in more vibrant areas..
there are 1 million ways for a business to expand…
if you really want to..
i hope helps…

…and of course you’ll have your numbers revision next week. That will be on the back page under the fold in NY Times and the rest of the media will be on feeding frenzy on how Newt once parked in a handicapped space.

Another Obot buying into this fabricated BS hook, line and sinker!!

Amazing!!

Your user name explains it all!!

.

BTW, my son lives in Indiana, look up their median income, your figures are a bit off.  Also, your $150,000 Florida home would cost $50,000 in Indiana.

so—america will be better by paying people less? so ……
let me get this…EMPLOYERS CAN HAVE HIGHER PROFITS???

let me tell you a secret rio5…
in the 1990′s i ran some national franchises… i had some of the highest payroll and the highest paid people in the county–i was getting slammed every month by corporate..
but i also had the highest sale and the highest growth..

we do not make America stronger by paying people less…
i was making $10 an hour 30 years ago and STILL THE CONS TODAY SAY THIS IS TOO HIGH????
F-U…

min wage should be $10 and hour and people should be trained well enough to make it work..
if BIG CORPS do not like it..

then we just need to have a WHOLE BUNCH OF ‘REAL’ SMALL BUSINESSES TO TAKE OVER…
because real small businesses have always paid more…

you people want a slave economy buying chinese junk…
no thanks..
I like $500 shoes and $300 jeans and 6 figure cars…..
don’t need your cheap junk and cheap labor..
GO BACK TO CHINA…

Looks like they are getting the job done. So long as they keep ObaMao in a straight jacket he can’t pass anything.Thats always good for buisness.

details on unemployment above left out another big number to consider….employment within gov jobs is dropping drastically on a monthly basis. and within this most recent analisys, there were 20,000 less gov jobs in that figure….so it fits in as more good news …..that the private sector is starting to pick up the slack on gov job cuts..

that’s good news for all american families.

Half my comment disappeared into cyberspace. 

So, real joe, I live in a librul area, high taxes, high unemployment and a bankrupt state.  We benefitted from the stimulus, though,  our governor, an Obama crony,  got money from the bamster to pay off our state employees retirement bennies, and now we need more money to do it again.  

http://www.illinoisisbroke.com/newsitem.aspx?id=1368

u either can’t read or comprehend what u read ….or both.

no wonder ur a con

Doesn’t really matter all that much either way, because the unemployment numbers always reboot in January, following the Christmas shopping season. Post-holiday lay-offs almost always send the rate up — how high is goes back up at the time the first primaries are in full swing will determine how the economic messages are framed in the first part of 2012. See everyone on the first Friday in February.

No, the Republicans have 21  jobs bills stalled in the Senate.  For awhile they were called the “Forgotten Fifteen,” because Dirty Harry was ignoring 15 jobs bills,  then it increased to 17 and now it’s 21,  Dirty Harry won’t put them up for a vote.

Here you go, Summary of Jobs Bills Stalled

http://www.gop.gov/policy-news/11/10/27/summary-of-jobs-bills-stalled

The Republican House has also put two budgets together since they’ve been in charge, where’s Harry’s?  Obama’s?

You do realize we are still functioning on the budget the democrats would not present to Bush, held it over, increased it across the board and Obama signed it into law.  Now that budget is increased yearly by rate of growth, like a cancer, that’s why the democrats stubbornly won’t cooperate on budget issues that include job growth incentives.  I repeat, where’s the budgets?  We have two House budgets, when is Harry and Obama going to put one together that even their own party won’t vote down?  BTW, both House budgets had bipartisan support.

Do nothing democrats is the reality.

The fact is that if the number were down to 4%, the cons would fine something to botch and whie about…. they simply come here to moan in harmony.

No matter what chart, graph u pull up…all negative economic numbers lead to a republican president…why do u think neocons never use charts? they’d have to literally make up what they show.

A mixture of world economic failures added to Bush’s blunders has put us in this mess and no matter who became pres in ’08′ Hillary, McCain, or Obama, all legit economists stated it will take 15 to 20 yrs to stabilize this world crisis.

and u cons need to look in the mirror and admit to yourselves that it would help if there were regulations on wallstreet to keep them inline from the crooked tactics they use that ake them rich and hurt the average working family.

yah, more oil….that’s what our kid’s breathing air needs more of!

Don’t forget the two budgets and 21 jobs bills sitting in a drawer in Dirty Harry’s desk.

Oh lookie here, 74 House democrats sent a letter to the FCC Chairman making the case that net neutrality rules would jeopardize jobs:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/25/74_democrats_defy_genachowski/

Ho, ho, ho.

But, but, but Obama sat in church for 20 years while Rev. Wright defiled Sarah Palin on an altar made of Solyndra stocks and the Black Panthers all sat and gazed menacingly while they made up his birth certificate! I know becuz those shiny happy people on “Fox and Friends” and Glenn “Crying Eyes” Beck told me so!!

Yeah! That’s it! Let’s not pass anything! We’ll show that Kenyan marxicommusocialist Nazi exactly where he should stand! Great for business! We won’t hire until he’s gone!

That bit of idiocy brought to by the “conservative” santorum scum above ^

“Winning” the prize of being a “conservative” is no prize. That idiotic ideology is dying the death that it should have even before St. Ronnie Alzehimers started messing his drawers.

It was a lot less then the 7 trillion at 0.01 interest given to the banks during the first TARP bailout. Also then 3-4 trillion of launching a war against a country who never attacked us and the rebuilding of said country in a civil war.

You think that any president could turn that around in 100 days? Look I am not defending Obama’s handling of the economy but if you defend one president for inheriting the bad economy from one president, you have to do the same with the next. It works both ways.

We won’t hire until he’s gone!
—————————————-
Thanks for making my point.
That would be known as a good buisness decision.Barack ObaMao is the biggest detriment to free market buisness there is.His suffocating policies of taxing and regulating and fining everything that moves hurts the buisness community ,period.
As long as he is unable to pass anything it helps buisness.You can thank the Tea party for that.

Figures don’t lie but LIARS do figure.  and those figures ARE LIES!

Fox has a gullible audience of sheeple who will believe any dishonest spin they put forward. You’ve proved it again.

http://thinkprogress.org/romm/2011/11/22/374434/fox-news-viewers-misinformed-study-jon-stewart/

“Winning”?

Yes, how appropriate that you’d adopt the mantra of a deranged TV personality, drug addict and prostitution lover.

I couldn’t have made a better case for your idiocy. Thanks.

Boehner’s and Mitchell’s heads are exploding with this news. They’re doing everything in their power to kill the economy and its not working! aaahahahaha

and u cons need to look in the mirror and admit to yourselves that it would help if there were regulations on wallstreet to keep them inline from the crooked tactics they use that make them rich and hurt the average working family.
——————————————————-
There are regulations.You have to enforce them.Just like laws on illeagal immigration.
Did you know Barack Obama has whored more money from Wall street than any politician in the last 20 years.

Did you know? It is perfectly legal to participate in insider trading if you are a member of congress?
Did you know Nancy Pelosi gladly partook in such activities?
Did you know that Republican Senator Scott Brown is working on a bill as we speak that would end this practice?
Did you know a democratic majority President,Senate, and House never tried to change such practice?
Don’t f’n try to lecture republicans on the ills of WS.Look at your own backyard first.Or at least get a f’n clue.

Then why are you promoting it? 

Huh? Is this even logic?

To blame any one administration for this crash is rediculous.  It was a combination of several things; people of power in the financial industry began to plot and play with money that was not their own.  It essentially became a fad, a new toy within the financial realm.  Then when housing prices fell it was like dominoes, then a short selling panic and more panic when so much money was being pulled out. It was crazy.

I think it’s fair to disagree and debate the solutions, but I don’t think any administration owns the crisis or the what the crisis caused.

That still doesn’t make sense.

Oh! You meant fairy TALE. Fairy TALE.

I know EVERYTHING that goes on in politics, all factual details on issues,  on both sides….that’s why as an Independent voter,  I vote with the Democratic Party.

Funny how it doesn’t matter that there are Republicans in the Congress. They’re all steaming piles of crap (especially the “conservative” ones) but they are there. Yet none of this matters to the “patriot” here. Clueless teabaggers, I tell ya..

That would be Harry Reid that is holding up jobs bills, 21 jobs bills and no budgets have been signed into law since March of 2009.  The Republicans have sent two budgets over to the Senate with jobs programs in both, but evidently, Reid wants to hold them up.
http://www.gop.gov/policy-news/11/10/27/summary-of-jobs-bills-stalled

Or, they could come up with a way to get Harry Reid to put the 21 House jobs bills up for a vote,
http://www.gop.gov/policy-news/11/10/27/summary-of-jobs-bills-stalled

How about 21 job creating programs:

http://www.gop.gov/policy-news/11/10/27/summary-of-jobs-bills-stalled

When all else fails, mention the war. Good try.

And the banks repaid their money. Plus Obama agreed with it so get over it. Ask Obama about the GM monies and his re-election campaign monies. You can do a lot with a billion bucks.

If 1.2 MILLION Americans give up looking for work like 315,000 did last month Obama can brag he got the unemployment rate down to 7%…..

Seriously, the rate came down because 315,000 AMERICANS GAVE UP AND STOPPED LOOKING FOR WORK!

Even the Huffington Post isn’t letting Obama get away with this statistical trickery and said in its headline that the drop was a MIRAGE.

SpySarah, 

I have no idea what your last comment means. I was asking why you are promoting a site with a crazy conspiracy theory if you’re also distancing yourself from it? You believe what’s on the site, right? 

Those lost government jobs happen to be local, bus drivers, police, etc. African Americans hardest hit
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/29/us/as-public-sector-sheds-jobs-black-americans-are-hit-hard.html

none of the public sector layoffs appear to come from the bloated DC or State level bureaucracies.

Looks like our laid off postal workers, cops, bus drivers, etc. might be getting jobs in Leisure and Hospitatility, 22,000 new hires or Food and drink, 33,000 new hires, Retail/clothing took on 50,000 new hires.  Wonder if they all will be needed after the Christmas and travel season is over.

Heh, yeah, good news.

Did you know Barack Obama has whored more money from Wall street than any politician in the last 20 years.

If unemployment were reported accurately, it would be in the 23% range, according to shadowstats.  It’s all in the way it’s reported.  Anything can be manipulated to make things not seem as bad as they are.  All one has to do is get out in the streets and look around.

I’m not a business person, I’m a retired corporate secretary, the metal fabricating business was founded by my father-in-law in the 50′s and it doesn’t need me or any part time sales people because there’s not enough jobs for the people that are working there now.  

The reason I say  ”we” and “our” is because it’s a family business.  And, there is only so far you can go to lower prices because the cost of steel isn’t dropping and neither are utilities, health insurance and a number of other costs.  Moving isn’t an option either, who’s going to buy the building? or the homes of all our skilled employees we would need to move….in this booming real estate market.  What about a half an acre’s amount of equipment, duplicaters, shears, some pieces of equipment are 12 feet tall.

Thanks for the advice, I bet the family will pass.

He did not blame the unemployment rate on the mortgage meltdown, he blamed the gradual slippage on minimum wage increases.

And, it does impact employment in segments of society particularly with African American’s and youths. 

I just got done listening to Thom Hartman and even he acknowledged that these numbers are construed and that real unemployment is closer to 16%.

Yep, when companies are laying off and/or cutting hours, their costs of health insurance increasing, utilities, materials, cost of transporting their goods all increasing, now is the time to raise wages.  Sounds like a winner.

You do realize that the sectors that saw the greater increases in employment were retail, leisure and hospitality, food and beverage.(looking like seasonal)  Manufacturing only added 8,000 jobs and electronic instruments saw a decrease of 2,000.

Enjoy
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm

Look around.  Construction projects that once were in limbo are back in motion.  So construction is on its way back along with some white collar gigs.  People who gave up looking are just that, people who gave up and you can’t give up.  Maybe they should start looking again.  And you certainly can’t complain and complain, being totally negative about any positive news.  It’s bad out here.  Take it from someone that laid off two full time employees in the last three years.  No one should look at any decrease in a negative light.  But there will always be some that will find the worst in every situation.  No matter what positive news, there will always be the grim portion of the populous that people should just ignore.

It’s not a good environment for a positive outlook and more important negative people generally tend to be obese, generally unhealthy, unsocial, unhappy and obese.

You can’t put lipstick on that pig you fool!!.  Drilling jobs in the Gulf are lost to China and Cuba,  and Canada is selling its oil to Asia now that the pipeline can’t be  laid through the US.  MILLIONS OF JOBS LOST!!!!  Millions of dollars in cost of Home Heating Oil this winter in the North and Northeast!!!!   All thanks to those idiots in the White House and the EPA.

As for Boeing jobs now being kept in Washington, I seriously doubt Boeing is happy.  They just surrendered to the UNION THUGS at the NLRB.  It’s not only South Carolina’s lost jobs, it’s a loss to the entire country and freedom of business to build and operate wherever they choose in this so-called “Land of the Free”.

America wake up…Your country is being stolen right out from under you by the enemy within.  VOTE REPUBLICAN AND SAVE THE UNION!!!

And why should they NOT have the freedom to build their business wherever they choose?  Without corporations, the jobless rate would be 75%…not 8.5% which is still way, way too high.  Corporations are people, and and owned by the working people of America who invest in them and invest their  retirement funds in them.  Why is that so hard to understand???  They are not some big metal box of a building with no one inside, or some automaton from outter space running them.

You sniviling Democrats rant and rave against the fact that corporations have moved out of the US and have taken their jobs with them, and then you do everything in your power to prevent them from coming back to the US with their money and their jobs.

Keep it up – they’ll leave us all behind and then you can camp out at the foot of your Democrat politicians who brought you down with their class warfare and demogoging stupidity.

Won’t happen….and God HELP America if it by some fluke does!

You fit your name..Royal Court Jester.   That’s OK, you’re good for a laugh.

Explain how SpySarah’s comment was anything but the TRUTH.  Nothing said there fits your ignorant comment.

How does that Kool-Aid taste?  Corporations are people?

The reason corporations moved out of America is because they can pay $.12 an hour and Americans will still buy their products.  And they can pollute without worry.  Its pretty simple.

So, if corporations are people, who do we arrest?

it will and it will be better than the bush years…
praise the lord…
conservatives destroy america –liberals save it..

the numbers were altered by those that gave up… nothing changed….  and i wish Scarborough hadn’t sign the new contract it was better when there was an opposing view on Morning Joe it is officially the obama power hour now

you sure about that?

http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-28/secret-fed-loans-undisclosed-to-congress-gave-banks-13-billion-in-income.html

also if you were for the bank bail outs why are you not for the Auto bail out? They are profitable now and no longer under government control.

If corporations are people, maybe they could pay the same tax rate I do. I like the blame for corporations leaving and not coming back are the liberals fault, good denial. You’re right, we don’t them want to come back and pay taxes. You’re sooo smart!

Don’t try this unless you how they score the numbers! That is factored in.

 Still watching the “tea” network I see! How do “illegals” get those benefits without a SS number? You think at current they can’t find fake numbers when they run benefits? Nice touch on the poor working dems, I take it none are “tea” trash working under table!

Well, that’s it, election is over – Obama wins!

I wasn’t for the bailout. And I wasn’t for the GM bailout.

I’m not for inflating the dollar. And yes, GM is still government-owned.

The 8.6% unemployment rate is not the correct number on which to focus,
nor is it the 140,000 private sector jobs created.  The most important
number is the 315,000 discouraged workers who left the labor force.
Anybody who is paying attention is going to see the empty retail stores
in the strip malls and the stories of people he knows who are not
working, and is not going to be impressed by some numbers coming out of
DC.
People who are into Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) numbers are
going to look a little deeper and find the web page listed below.  It
shows that the percentage of people age 16 and above who are
participating in the labor force has declined from 65.7% at the start of
President Obama’s term (01/01/09) to 64.0% at the end of November 2011,
up just a bit from its lowest point of 63.9% this past July.
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries...

Here is another BLS data point about which President Obama may wish to worry:
“From April to July 2011, the number of employed youth 16 to 24 years old rose by 1.7
million
to 18.6 million, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today.
This year, the share of young people who were employed in July was 48.8
percent, the lowest July rate on record for the series, which began in
1948.
“http://bls.gov/news.release/yo…

In response to timcajun below…perhaps you should ask Mr. Jeff Immelt, Obama’s best buddy and head of GE why he or GE don’t pay the same taxes that you do…in fact GE paid NONE.  You know how that goes, any friends of Obama or  Big Democrat Donors do not play by the same rules as you or me.  That’s called CRONY CAPITALISM.

And I never said Democrats don’t WAN T corporations to come back and pay taxes…I said they do everything they can to prevent that from happening, like making it harder and much more expensive to run an operation in the US than elsewhere.

And in response to uncleduke below…you do get the idea, though you make it sound like it’s a terrible thing to operate without thousands and thousands of restrictions that ruin industries or lose thousands of jobs, refusing to allow exploration  and development of our OWN fossil fuels, and like in the Northwest where the lumber industry went belly up in this country because of silly EPA rules to save the Snail Darter, for heaven’s sake!  I call that interference with Darwin’s theory of Natrual Selection and survival of the fittest you Liberals so love to talk about.  And the burden of union rules that allow slackers and incompetents to work for higher and higher wages and benefits, with no added loosening of rigid work rules that cost the corporations millions of unnecessary dollars.  Many businesses and WORKERS get along quite nicely without unions.

When it becomes too burdensome and costly to run their businesses here, businesses move elsewhere.  It’s as simple as that.

While it is legitimate to question whether the numbers are realistic or not, here one compares the numbers obtained by using the same criteria 2 months ago with the numbers obtained by the very same criteria ‘today’. Those numbers suggest that the number of unemployed dropped from 9.2% to 8.6% and that’s great news for everyone, especially for job-seekers.

Is it great? NO! But if you used the previous (bad) figures to build the case against Obama and his economic advisers then you should be consistent and say that Obama and his team did a good job to improve the situation. That’s what the numbers tell you.

Scarborough is simply stating the obvious.

It would be very encouraging for the economy and the country if the 8.6% trend figure continues to fall. 

We shall see…

Drilling won’t produce anything for the US.  It goes into the international market which produces more profits for the oil companies and not a damn thing for US citizens.  You people should get your facts straight.  You deadender “Drill Baby Drill” morons are clueless.  Don’t look now but, the GOP is about to get it’s ass handed to them again.  Blocked the payroll tax cut again and the unemployment extensions will soon follow.  Do you really think people with working brain cells are going to vote for Newt or “Corporations are people too my friend” Rommney?