Karl Rove: ‘Fox News Is Fairer Than MSNBC’
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Karl Rove was on Meet The Press this morning, discussing Fox News’ (where he is a political analyst) coverage of the Obama administration. Have they been as fair to the president as other networks? Even more so, claims the former senior adviser to George W. Bush, especially since some news networks “has opinion people…and those same people playing the part of your news delivery…which would not happen at Fox.” Guess which network he was talking about!
A rough transcript of the back and forth:
TOM BROKAW: “Do you think that Fox News is fair to President Obama?”
KARL ROVE: “I think they– on the news side, absolutely. I think that they’ve got first-rate individuals at the White House
who — do their job. And in an objective, fair, and balanced way, yeah, absolutely.BROKAW: You don’t think that they have teed up, for example, the health care bill and are more selective in their coverage?
ROVE: No in fact you have to differentiate, NBC, for example, has MSNBC, which has opinion people …
BROKAW: (interrupting)… 6:00 at night we do.
ROVE: ..and also, you have some of those same people playing part of your news delivery at MSNBC. Which would not happen at Fox. I would not be put out there as quote an objective journalist.
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Who likes to beat dead horses?
Of course Karl has a biased toward Fox!
This thread with be full of Fox trashing, per usual, but just to remind everyone up front, Fox was rated the MOST “fair and balanced” by a pollster who actually leans to the left. Even Hil Clinton agreed. So keep burying your faces in the sand if you like, but those are the FACTS.
After all of Megyn Kelly’s objective “hard news” analysis of the health care bill, how could ANYONE in their right mind argue with Rove?
See my first comment for reply.
Recent studies from Harvard, George Mason U, Sacred Heart U, pew..and others show that Fox is the most balanced news outlet.
These are not opinion polls, they are analyses done on the actually stories reported ..and how they are reported.
MSNBC always ranks at or near the bottom
Fox is full of shit! They can’t even be honest about the little things. For instance, Senator Byrd has agreed to fininsh healthcare through reconciliation but, on Friday Steve Douchie, said that Byrd is against it. Now, is that fair or balanced? Idiots!
Thank you for proving my point in my first comment, Rox. As always, you are the voice of LIB reason.
Drew
What’s Rove gona say? Is he not employed by FNC?
What would you say about Mediaite if you were interviewed by Daily Kos? Mediaite s****, I hate working there?
It’s like Gibbs on FNS, what’s he going to say about the health care bill? It’s going down in flames?
BTW: What’s Gibbs doing on a Fox Sunday Show? I thought they were’nt a real News organization that was only watched by idiots and racists, as some on this blog have said?
Would I find a ‘White Hood’ in Mr. Gibbs’s closet?
I’m sorry, but this would be like Carville saying CNN is the most fair out of the three.
If you are contracted with one channel, you lose a bit of your credibility on the issue, sorry, let alone that anyone who has had a political connection in the past will always be questioned. Carville would be attacked by Republicans, Rove for Liberals, this isn’t worth screaming over.
You have GOT to be kidding me.
MSNBC at least gives its entire morning lineup to a bona-fide conservative host, Joe Scarbourough.
Where is the show on Fox hosted by a Conservative? Oh, that’s right…there is none.
And PLEASE KARL SPARE US!
As if Megyn Kelly or any of the other Fox daytime “news” personalities are just down the middle unpartisan hosts.
KARL ROVE IS A JOKE. FOX NEWS IS A JOKE. END OF STORY.
shootfromthehip, have you ever watched a straight “news” hour on MSNBC? If you think that’s balanced, you are delusional! See my first comment for the FACTS that you so hate.
I don’t watch MSNBC. I don’t get MSNBC where I live. But Fox Not News Channel is the news channel for idiots, creates more idiots and loves to promote its idiots, i.e., Hannity, O’Reilly, Beck, Palin, Huckabee, etc.
Fox was rated the MOST “fair and balanced”
Yet FOX viewers are the most misinformed as studies have shown for years.
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/714.html
http://www.hanlonsrazor.org/2009/08/19/fun-with-polls-fox-viewers-are-terribly-misinformed/
So predictable, Bill
As much fun as this is, I’m off to church. Enjoy your denial!
No less predictable as your defense of Fox, Michelle. Enjoy your denial!!!
Did MSNBC tell it’s viewers that Senator Byrd was against finishing healthcare through reconciliation? No, because that’s a damn lie. Just one of the many peddled by fox. People who watch MSNBC don’t watch it because they tell them what they want to hear. With the exception of Morning Joe’s bullshit, people watch MSNBC because they give you the facts. Which is what a news org is supposed to do. That’s why it’s called NEWS!
Well, gee if FNC has nothing but idiots.
Then I’m sure all those brainiac, know-it-all, Havard Educated, Elite, we know better then everyone else in the whole wide world, geniuses. Should be able to put on something that millions and millions would glue themselves to the tv 24/7?
Don’t you think? I mean, they are soooooooo educated. But they can’t even get a bunch of idiots to watch them.
What are they? A bunch of MORONS?
RIGHT ON, Puck!!1 I HATE educated people!!1 If it were up to me, and the viewers of FOX NEWS (The Most Powerful Name in News), a college education (especially an “IVY LEAGUE” one) would make you INELIGIBLE for the presidency!!1
And you couldn’t be more RIGHT about FOX’s ratings!!1 If the NERDS over at MS-PEE-ON-ME and the Commie News Network are so SMART, why don’t people watch them??!!1 After all, as ANYONE who knows ANYTHING about television can tell you, people watch what’s SMART!!1 Why do you think professional wrestling and Dancing with the Stars have so many viewers??!!1 It ALL MAKES SENSE!!1
I have to concur with Mr. Rove. There is no question Fox is somewhat fairer than MSNBC.
Fox seldom bother with facts, for example. Facts are cruel and unusual punishment.
“Fox was rated the MOST “fair and balanced” by a pollster who actually leans to the left. Even Hil Clinton agreed.”
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I think MichelleF should go back and read what Hillary actually said. She said they were fair to her during the primaries when she was a candidate. Of course they would have been fair to her then, out of their hatred for Obama. Hell, they would have loved anyone running against Obama.
“See my first comment for the FACTS that you so hate.”
The facts that most Americans think Fix is more fair in some poll done by some outfit I’ve never heard of are hardly proof of anything.
Karl you are funny. No seriously, you are REALLY funny. REALLY REALLY funny. Post something like this again PLEASE. It’s very ORIGINAL
And we have no idea what the actual question was in the poll, where the poll was taken, the methodology of the poll.
Yet you expect me to accept as “fact” that Fox is more fair because one poll, based on X number of people (was it 10, 100, 1000, 10,000?) said Fox was/is the most “fair.”
Further, most Americans do not even watch cable news. Ratings prove this.
So, if i were to go to the mall and ask some dumb gal who she thought was the most fair, she might say “Fox, because i was flipping through the channels one day and they said they were ‘fair & balanced.’
Rove is joking of course.
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“…the Commie News Network are so SMART, why don’t people watch them??!”
Because they also watch Fox for the comedy value.
By the way, CNN’s regular pundit lineup include Mary Matlin, assistant to Bush and counselor to Dick Cheney; Bill Bennet, an evangelical former Sec. of Ed. that seeded the place with evangelicals during his tenure in the Reagan administration; Fran Townsend, Dep. Sec. Bush Dept. Homeland Security.
Moreover, prime-time’s Campbell Brown is married to former Bush administration foreign policy adviser, Dan Senor.
Regular David Frum is a Bush speech writer who coined the phrase ‘axis of evil’ and strongly supported John Roberts for Chief Justice.
John King worships Dick Cheney.
CNN spawned both Glenn Beck and Lou Dobbs and infrequently invites guests such as Michele Bachman and Ann Coulter and Lynn Cheney and Sarah Palin on to spew their so-called ‘conservative’ hate and xenophoboia, free of any meaningful challenge to their demonstrable lies.
Those are just off of the top of my head.
Not that I think CNN offers a good product. They don’t. It sucks. But to claim it is predominantly liberal is simply an grotesquely ignorant statement.
“Fox seldom bother with facts”
Well, if that is the case as some would like people to believe then why……
If MSNBC always has the facts to back them up.
If MSNBC always has the quotes to back them up.
If MSNBC always has the links to back them up.
If MSNBC always has the proper video clips to back them up. (no chop shop)
And if MSNBC has the Harvard Elite & The Roades Scholar to back them up. Why do they get their ratings butts kicked by a High School ‘C’ Student and a Wallbanger?
Again should be nothing but a chip shot for the highly educated to put on at least ONE show that would cream FNC in the ratings.
Why is it when you become highly educated, and when things don’t go your way. Instead of figuring out how to better your programing. The highly educated way is to complain and name call?
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“MSNBC at least gives its entire morning lineup to a bona-fide conservative host…..”
Really? who knew? But I guess the educated elite. Know-it-all! Mika Brezinski is a bona-fide conservative host that MSNBC gives it’s entire morning lineup to.
I always thought she shared hosting duties with that Joe guy. But hey, who am I to argue with the highly educated.
STUPID EDUCATED NERDS!!!!!!11
Sorry, I couldn’t help myself. Two Karls in one post are enough to get me all riled up.
Nothing like a hatred for education to round out your life.
Mika Brezinski is a bona-fide conservative host that MSNBC gives it’s entire morning lineup to.
I always thought she shared hosting duties with that Joe guy.
@puck30: For your video entertainment – “Mika Brzezinski-has-the-worst-job-in-television“
I have noticed that most people who knock fox news dont watch it. And to the poster who said that MSNBC gives facts “except for morning joe”. Do you know how brain washed that you are? Chris “thrill up my leg” Matthews? Keith Olbermann? You sir/mam just watch shows that reinforce your views. I think Keith Olbermann is the Tokyo Rose of this generation, but I will watched him before I came to that opinion. Its my opinion, not some one elses. Try thinking for yourself.
Here is the link for the poll, if you are interested, though I’m sure you’re not, since it doesn’t fix your I hate Fox mentality:
http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/01/fox-leads-for-trust.html
BTW, I love the last line in the article I just posted. The left wing group that did the poll hated the result so much that had to put in a little opinion (slam) at Fox.
MSNBC doesn’t advertise that they are fair and balanced, and they aren’t.
Fox News does advertise that they are fair and balanced, and they aren’t either.
At least MSNBC doesn’t lie about it.
Brokaw giving points on fairness and objectivity in journalism? You couldn’t make this stuff up!
It has been a while back, but didn’t Fox News go to court to prove (and won) that they had the right to lie or deliberately distort news reports on public airwaves?
Wow sueNaustin, I would love a link to that!
PatsyDaWuss says:
March 14, 2010 at 2:12 pm
Rove is joking of course.
For more on this, come join us, the remarkable John T, the sparkling Count Istvan, and the oobilicious Scott for smart political talk:
Aw Jeffy are you being funny. Not jacking off horsies today trollboy.
Rove should be in Prison, hands down.
Fox News is not fair regarless of what any fixed survey you say.
Tell me besides Shep who is fair at Fox.?
Here is picture of Jeffy, the stalker and racisthttp://www.ourchurch-graphics.com/member/r/royalkinggeteqh/Jeff3.jpg
http://www.ourchurch-graphics.com/member/r/royalkinggeteqh/Jeff3.jpg
This is what this man who stalks people on the internet looks like.
>MSNBC doesn’t advertise that they are fair and balanced, and they aren’t.
>Fox News does advertise that they are fair and balanced, and they aren’t either.
>At least MSNBC doesn’t lie about it.
Amen. MSNBC hasn’t said a single time that they’re impartial.
According to polls M, Fox IS the most balanced. As many times as you libs say it ain’t so, the proof says otherwise.
@MichelleF: It may just seem like semantics, but the PPP poll says that FNC is perceived more balanced by a 10-point margin over CNN. You can’t really judge “balance” with an opinion poll only perception and as the linked blog and its comments suggest, there is a correlation between party identification and other factors.
I know that Pew has done some comparison toward “balance” on specific issues, but I don’t have time to locate them this minute (my honey-do list is calling) and any way you look at it, I’m sure someone would try to dismiss the Pew research because it was filtered through the prism of somebody’s perspective.
Michelle: according to me — idiots watch/defend cable news channels. My poll says that’s 100% true (+/- 0%).
And to that feller who asked what them there Harvard elites was doin’ [sic, throughout]… well they are learnin’, not tryin’ to make this here tv have them some good ratins’. That’s made for gents who get their BA’s from Ohio University (it’s true, Google it!).
@puck30: For your video entertainment
Wow! I just can’t understand why a highly educated person like Mika Brzezinski who, attended The Madeira School during her high-school years. Graduated in 1989 from Williams College in Williamstown, Massachusetts, where she majored in English, after transferring from Georgetown University as a junior. Would let herself be treated like that.
You would think that she would be going to her bosses at MSNBC, her husband or maybe a group like N.O.W. to get away from this terrible man! Well, at least after 9AM she doesn’t have to subject herself to this terrible, vile man! You would have to figure she would be highly educated to run, RUN as faw away from him as possible! My God! Three full hours is just too much for anybody to take! Poor Mika!
So I wonder what she does after 9AM?
http://wabcradio.com/article.asp?id=1285199
Wait! You mean to tell me she spends the whole morning with that vile Joe? So, the person who has the ‘Worst Job In The Television’. Does it for another two hours on radio? Again, what does that say about the highly educated?
Well one thing it does say is, what does this have to do with the original question? Some highly educated person comes on here and says. “MSNBC at least gives its entire morning lineup to a bona-fide conservative host.” To which I said. “Mika Brezinski is a bona-fide conservative host that MSNBC gives it’s entire morning lineup to.
I always thought she shared hosting duties with that Joe guy.”
To which another highly educated poster replied with an article about her having the ‘Worst Job In The Television’.
It’s soo bad she does six hours with this guy?
And if it’s known by all the ‘highly educated people’ in ‘Elite Circles” that this woman is just being tormented by this evil, vile, conservative (for six hours). Then why would the ‘highly educated’ Arianna Huffington host a party for Mika Brezinski and Joe Scarborough, and introduce them as “the Hepburn and Tracy” of morning TV.
A Party? That means Mika spends more than six hours ‘Worst Job In Television’ co-host?
Something seems very screwed up in ‘Highly Educated Land’.
That means Mika spends more than six hours (with the) ‘Worst Job In Television’ co-host? Oops!
First of all phuck30 who cares about your Conservative drivel take that back to the KKK or The Koldys Kiddie Korner. Fox Is not Fair and Balanced if they were then where is the balance for Hannity, Huckabee, The Three Stooges, Kelly, Scott…..need it keep going. As for you Assley my invitation still stands, prove to me that I didn’t
@puck30: While the video demonstrates they may not be equals… I just thought it was funny.
“ROVE: No in fact you have to differentiate, NBC, for example, has MSNBC, which has opinion people …
BROKAW: (interrupting)… 6:00 at night we do. ”
Obviously Tom Brokaw has never seen David Shuster and Tamryn Hall in action!
scott: fox news REPORTING is fair and balanced. No one ever said that their staff consisted of 50% conserative and 50% leftists. Also, its a slogan. MSNBC’s slogan is “the place for politics. Well obviously it is NOT the place for politics unless you consider left wing cheerleaders, “the place for politics”. CNN slogan is something like…..whwre america turns for news. Again, its not. Some americans may tune into cnn for news, but way more dont than due. Fox reports AL of the news, not just the news that leftists want to hear.
It makes me laugh when leftists compare conseratives with the KKK. Can you (leftists) please tell me what party west virginia senator Robert Byrd is? You know that admitted former KKK member. Ill give you a hint…..hes NOT a republican.
Fox spreads their Conservative bias through every nook and cranny of their daily drivel. From the Stooges in the Morning, Too Craputo, To KKlannity and the biggest Conservative Billdo. It is nothing but a 22 hours GOP love fest, I am taking off the 2 hours of Shep he is a gem among pieces of cow dung. MSNBC does do politics thet just dont hide behind the laughable fair and balanced lie.
As for the KKK reference read Johnny Dollars Place then you will change your mind.
My Bad Magster!
I didn’t read the curve ball well on that one. Then again I don’t read Gawker. I’ll put it on my reading list, it looks like a ‘Page Six’ type site?
scott: look at you….nothing but name calling. Read Johnny Dollar and I will change my mind? So if there is a racist comment on there it means that all conseratives are racist? Im going to bring up Robert Byrd again (since you ignored it the first time. He is an admitted “former” KKK, obviously racist. So by your standards shall I assume that ALL democratics/liberals/and leftists are racist? Now Im trying to have a rational disagreement with you. Making up childish names, stooges in the morning, kklanity, craputo, makes me wonder if im being realistic. Now if you want to watch an hour of vile hate, watch Keith Olbermann.
Mr. Rove had Brokaw chocking on his Peacock feathers.
@ Scott Heckman
Funny, ‘highly educated person’. I read Johnny Dollar’s Place. Could you please give me the link to KKK postings on that site?
And BTW Mr. Heckman, it always gets me. If a highly educated person such as yourself doesn’t like what you see on FNC. Why don’t do the simple thing the rest of us do.
You press the little button on your remote that says up or down. Heck, you could even put a block so you wouldn’t have to watch it. For a highly educated person such as yourself, it’s a very simple thing to do.
Instead a highly educated person such as yourself watches something he doesn’t like? Sounds very unproductive. And why do highly educated people such as yourself have trouble with their linguistics.
I say, I don’t watch Fox & Friends. How did I know the correct way was to say “the Stooges in the Morning.”
I say, I’m never home to watch Neil Cavuto. How did I know the correct ‘highly educated way’ to say is “Too Craputo”.
I say, I watch ‘The Factor with Bill O’Reilly’. How did I know the correct ‘highly educated way’ to say was ” the biggest Conservative Billdo.”
You say, in a highly educated tone. It is nothing but a 22 hours GOP love fest, I am taking off the 2 hours of Shep he is a gem among pieces of cow dung.
To which I say, Geraldo is a Conservative? Doesn’t he host a show somewhere on FNC?
Like I said ‘highly educated people’. The simple thing to do is push the up or down button on your remote. It’s what we do. If you have trouble ask anyone in your household.
Well, I guess we will have to bring in the ‘Highly Educated Person’ to point out the KKK reference or link at this website, Lord knows I can’t find it.
http://homepage.mac.com/mkoldys/blog/jdp.html
Scott Heckman says:
March 14, 2010 at 5:15 pm
… As for you Assley my invitation still stands, prove to me that I didn’t
Didn’t what?
Mr. Heckman, since you didn’t finish your sentence, let’s examine some possibilities.
Avoid getting dropped on your head many times as a child?
Get to ride on the big yellow bus when you were in Elementary School, instead riding on the little yellow bus?
Pass remedial English in High School? (or even graduate from High School for that matter)
Receive a sense of decency when your parents DNA combined before your birth?
Is it one of more of those? If so, then As proof, I submit your posts:
Scott Heckman says:
March 14, 2010 at 3:51 pm
and
Scott Heckman says:
March 14, 2010 at 3:54 pm
and
Scott Heckman says:
March 14, 2010 at 5:15 pm
and
Scott Heckman says:
March 14, 2010 at 6:03 pm
Oh Assley you little bottom feeding inbred you know what the hell I am talking about. I have more formal education than you have, you Conservative bitch. But thats cool on a daily basis you and the racist at the KKK are beaten and made fools of every day. So Assley my offer still stands. You made a challenge to me once before so are you up for it.
Scott Heckman says:
March 14, 2010 at 8:01 pm
…So Assley my offer still stands. You made a challenge to me once before so are you up for it.
Yes, long ago I challenged you to prove to the world that you had an IQ above 25. I am still waiting.
HAHAHAHAHA you are one funny bottom feeder. Once again grow an ovary or whatever things like you grow.
Scott Heckman says: March 14 2010 at 8:01 PM
Formal Education? And you talk like that?
BTW: A little clue to you Scotty, I posted the link to Koldy’s site and said show us the KKK reference. You didn’t! You couldn’t!
BTW: Did you get your Formal Education at this University? Somehow I think you flunked ‘Milkshake 101′.
http://www.mcdonalds.com/usa/work/burgeru.html
Oh Phuck you are so funny, it is called the Koldys Kiddie Korner, why do I call it that well you all, when shown proof of Fixed News obvious bias you cry like a bunch of second graders ok PUSS PUSS PUSS, look familiar I know it was you ass at Reddit you PHUCK. .
This could be argued til the cows come home. The bottom line is Fox has more viewers than than the others cable news sources combined. Enough said. Watch who you want!
And Scott peckerman, can you debate like an adult? Or perhaps you are the 8 year old you sound like
Scott Heckman says:
March 14, 2010 at 8:32 pm
HAHAHAHAHA you are one funny bottom feeder. Once again grow an ovary or whatever things like you grow.
OK Mr. Heckman. I’ll do that if you grow up. Although I have a better chance of growing an ovary, I’m afraid both of us are going to fail.
MichelleF says:
March 14, 2010 at 8:49 pm
And Scott peckerman, can you debate like an adult? Or perhaps you are the 8 year old you sound like
I think we have video of little Scotty.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRWcPoxmZos
MichelleF says:
March 14, 2010 at 8:48 pm
This could be argued til the cows come home. The bottom line is Fox has more viewers than than the others cable news sources combined.
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And professional wrestling gets more viewers than Fox, it’s fake too. So what’s your point?
Read Johnny Dollar and I will change my mind? So if there is a racist comment on there it means that all conseratives are racist?
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Although Koldys welcomes a number of racists to his site and provides them the warmest of hospitality, I don’t think we can single the PHOX Phan Klub out as the great PHOX Racist Watering-Hole. That honor goes to Greta Wire whicn appears to have more racists per capita than Alabama. Of course, we’re still talking about the PHOX family, whether its Koldys or Greta, but I think Greta Watch is the better indicia of racism at PHOX. As a matter of fact, if Jeff Merill and Janet Hawkins are not posting, the PHOX Phan Klub is relatively free of racism.
TOM BROKAW: “Do you think that Fox News is fair to President Obama?”
KARL ROVE: “I think they– on the news side, absolutely. I think that they’ve got first-rate individuals at the White House
who — do their job. And in an objective, fair, and balanced way, yeah, absolutely.
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Koldys Klowns, notice the evasive response from piggie Rove.
He is offering his opinion about NEWS coverage.
The rest of the Fox gNOpig Channel is PURE PROPAGANDA.
From the trio of KKKlowns in the morning, Crapputo, the **** flinging Baboon Beck, Billdo, KKKlownnity, Frankestein Face, including the halfassed Red Eye.
Only the dumbest pretend to defend what is evident in plain sight.
Hey Bovine, I’m just curious, do think Brokaw is biased?
And John,
If CNN or MSNBC were getting the viewers that FOX gets and destroying Fox, I assume that you would feel the same? Don’t bothering answering.
I totally agree with Karl Rove. Fox news is the best as it gives unbiased opinion on any incident or political view.
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MichelleF says:
Don’t bothering answering.
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Then don’t “bothering” asking the question.
To those who claims Fox is “Less” Fair and Balance than the rest of the media, I have just 5 letters for you…
ACORN
Fact is, EVERY media outlet have *some* bias. The LEFT’s issue with Fox is that, Fox claims to be “Fair and Balance” because they’re really not (from their perspective). Of course, the LEFT will conveniently leave out the fact that the main stream media claims to be “Objective” (which they are not)
“Fair and Balance” vs “objective”
Face it…nobody have a moral ground to stand on on this issue. However, at least with Fox, you do at least hear about the story…whereas with the Mainstream, all you hear is “Tea Beggers” and Fox bashing…
…how sad…
Ah John, the predictable, you are a stupied tea bagging moron who can’t spell, reply from you. If it makes you feel better to insult others, feel free. I’m so glad i don’t have to live with the level of anger you libs have.
and yes, i do see that i mispelled stupid, so no need to point it out.
MichelleF says:
March 15, 2010 at 1:57 am
Ah John, the predictable, you are a stupied tea bagging moron who can’t spell,
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So you go ahead and call me names and then realize you did misspell. Does that make you a stupid tea bagging moron. Maybe you should look at your comment that says “Don’t bothering answering”. Now, you want to call me some more names?
BTW MichelleF, it seems to me you are the angry one that needs to call people names.
msnbc did more to defeat hillary and elect obama in 2008 than any other news org and more to defeat gore and elect bush in 2000.
they suck. (even if chuck t. is an old bud)
Actually, Hillary did a very good job of defeating herself, without help from anyone except her own staffers.
And, if you will recall, Gore beat W rather handily in the popular vote.
I’m not sure you have much of an argument at all.
This means so much coming from FOX “News”. FOX ALERT! BREAKING NEWS! ROGER AILES SAYS FOX IS FAIRER THAN MSNBC! FOX ALERT! BREAKING NEWS! RUPERT MURDOCH SAYS AT FOX, WE REPORT, YOU DECIDE. FOX ALERT! BREAKING NEWS! GRETA VAN SUSTEREN SAYS HER BOTOX IS WEARING OFF AND FOX IS #1 IN WHITE GIRL GONE MISSING STORIES. FOX ALERT! BREAKING NEWS! BILL O’REILLY SAYS FOX IS THE MOST OBJECTIVE NEWS SOURCE IN AMERICA! FOX ALERT! BREAKING NEWS! MEGYN KELLEY SAYS DEMOCRATS ARE SCUMBAGS AND SHE WON’T HAVE ANY ON HER SHOW, THE #1 SHOW ON FOX DURING ITS TIME SLOT, ALWAYS FAIR AND BALANCED. FOX ALERT! BREAKING NEWS! SEAN HANNITY SAYS FOX NEWS IS #1 IN CABLE NEWS. FOX ALERT! BREAKING NEWS! GLENN BECK SAYS HE IS TEARING UP BECAUSE FOX NEWS IS SO GOOD. It is hard finding a more honest and objective commentator in America.
>msnbc did more to defeat hillary and elect obama in 2008 than any other news org and more to defeat gore and elect bush in 2000.
I disagree. Dan Abrams throughout the primaries was totally pro-Hillary. This is one of the major reasons why I liked his shows/came to Mediaite.
Well i think CNN is the best channel for news as it always has the latest news and updates that must be known to us on time.I used to watch CNN only.
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The Real Fake Royal King writes: “It is hard finding a more honest and objective commentator in America.”
He’s talking about himself here, folks.
Re: the words you put in Megyn Kelly’s mouth– age old technique of implanting disinformation within parody.
You’re a very apt internet political operator, “comrade”…
Evidently Royal is a regular Fox viewer. As for the ‘white girl gone missing’ line, Royal, why so obsessed with race?
That’s not me, Writer. It is Greta who is so obsessed about race. African-American or Hispanic girl goes missing not a word. Nancy Holloway, months and months of coverage …. I’m not sure Grace is much better.
Kind of like MSNBC ignoring stories that might make minorities look bad.
You’re a very apt internet political operator, “comrade”…
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Спасибо.
I don’t have time for your prickliness and obsessiveness today, Writer. Go pester Christians. You’re adept at that.
This coming from someone who spells America with a ‘k’, and would rather defend the actions of Imperial Japan and slam the U.S. when talking about WWII. Just why do you remain in a country you so obviously despise?
Writer, I’m relatively new here, but I have to agree. I’ve been reading some of this guy’s posts, and talk about far left. Man, he’s really, really out there. And if he doesn’t have an outright hatred of this country and the white race, he’s doing a good impression of someone who does.
Lying, again, I see Writer. Never defended Imperial Japan. But, hey, you’re probably right. I despise the nation so much that I spent four (4) years in Navy JAG.
BTW, I missed “Precious” at the theatres, although I read “Push” when it came out. I bought the DVD and watch it a couple of times over the weekend. I you can stand the street language, recommend it heartily.
“BTW, I missed “Precious” at the theatres, although I read “Push” when it came out. I bought the DVD and watch it a couple of times over the weekend. I you can stand the street language, recommend it heartily.”
hahahahahaha!!
Don’t think for minute TRFRK is some out of self-loathing white-bread lefty.
Why, he’s read “Push” and has seen the movie!…
Yeah, (White) Royal. And Lee Harvey Oswald was a Marine, and the Ft. Hood shooter was in the army. When I said on the Tom Hanks thread that America helped rebuild Japan after the war, you had to make the snarky comment that it was because it was in our own self interest. You just can’t let a good comment about this country go without throwing in how bad we really are.
The Real Royal King says:
Спасибо.
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The Real Royal King says:
March 15, 2010 at 10:25 am [about Writer]
“Go pester Christians. You’re adept at that”
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That’s a lie!
Speaking of WWII, after Germany was defeated, the Russians were perfectly happy to watch them starve to death. That’s why the U.S. initiated the Berlin air lift. I guess Royal King thinks we were somehow the bad guys in that, too.
Usual practice of the far left, auto. If you can’t say something bad about the U.S., don’t say anything.
Actually, Herr Autobahn, the Berlin Airlift and the Marshall Plan were the high water mark for American foreign policy. Not just empathy, but also tangible assistance …. Prudent investments, as well. The low water mark was the Invasion and Occupation of Iraq. We are recovering somewhat from the brush with which we were generously and fairly tarred, but I don’t think we’ll be back in the saddle again for a generation.
Why, he’s read “Push” and has seen the movie!…
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Lest anyone be confused by Cecelia’s lack of understanding of contemporary African-American culture, “Push” is the book by Sapphire which was the basis for the screenplay “Precious” by Geoffrey Fletcher, and the movie of the same name, produced by Oprah Winfrey and Tyler Perry. All are a blessing of the diversity we have in America which is a source of our greatness.
Yeah, (White) Royal. And Lee Harvey Oswald was a Marine, and the Ft. Hood shooter was in the army.
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Now I see why you are an extreme rightist, Writer, you, like Lee Attwater, Karl Rove, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Saxby Chambliss, Kay Bailey Hutchinson and W like to slander the good men and women who have served our nation in our armed forces.
Might I assume you join the Big Dick Cheney as a proud chicken hawk?
Lest anyone be confused by Cecelia’s lack of understanding of contemporary African-American culture, “Push” is the book by Sapphire which was the basis for the screenplay “Precious” by Geoffrey Fletcher, and the movie of the same name, produced by Oprah Winfrey and Tyler Perry. All are a blessing of the diversity we have in America which is a source of our greatness.
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See what I mean. He reads a book and he has an understanding of African-American culture!
Cecelia, dearest, when you were helping Sheriff Theophilus Eugene “Bull” Connor untangle his water hoses and feeding treats to his dogs, I was with my parents getting ready to cross the Edmund Pettus Bridge. Spare me that of which you know nothing, please.
TRFRK,
It’s already been established that anyone who doesn’t think precisely as you is a target for your smears that they are racist.
Again, we already know that you’re that much of a zealot.
However, it’s fascinating to learn that you think you’ve somehow earned ethnic street cred via your parents’ good judgment.
A poseur you are, and a poseur you will always be.
Sorry, Cecelia, but you made an incredibly stupid and demonstrably untrue remark. The fact that I called you on, as I have several times recently, once setting you off on a foaming at the mouth fest, doesn’t make me a poseur. I do think you should confine yourself to genuine, on topic posts here, and you and Janet and Jeff can enjoy your silly little “gotcha games” over at Koldys’ PHOX Phan Klub. He needs all the hits he can get these days, and I suspect no one over here is much entertained by your intramural games.
By the way, on those limited occasions when you make on-topic posts here, you often offer much to contemplate. So, you serve yourself well, too.
I’m afraid by suggesting that you know African-American culture via your parents politics and your reading a book. (And off-topic remark, I think…)
Trivial but particularly revealing tactics in your case, you do– do the silliest and most self exposing things in an effort to make someone else appear to be what they are not.
I congratulate so many others on this board, who caught on to your number very fast.
As I said before, Cecelia, take it back to the Klub where the so enjoy your intramural intrigue and gossiping. We have business here, and don’t have time to mop up your drivel.
You know TRRK, I felt badly about the Russian translation to the my reply to you earlier. On second thought, it didn’t seem funny and the remark just wasn’t “me”.
You’ve reassured me that it was an appropriate one now.
Thanks.
No, (White) Royal, I don’t slander the good men and women in the service. But when you denigrate this nation’s intentions in helping others, as with the Japanese after WWII, you do. We could have easily taken the same view the Russians had of the Germans and said to hell with them, but we didn’t. Why do you find it so difficult to ever let a positive comment about this country go unchallenged?
BTW, Cecelia, (White) Royal King only hates white people, so he falls more into the self-loathing than racist category.
Fox was rated the MOST “fair and balanced”
Yet FOX viewers are the most misinformed as studies have shown for years.
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/714.html
This one is good too:
http://www.hanlonsrazor.org/2009/08/19/fun-with-polls-fox-viewers-are-terribly-misinformed/
Nice job, everyone. The faux royal king is sitting in her “media room” holding her ass in her hand………..probably getting heavy right about…….now. ;)
This place reeks with Obamians..the stench is awful..
So, my fine feathered freinds..which network is fair?? Can you name one that is not a water boy for the left?
(I refuse to call you progressives, there is nothing progressive about tyranny..or is there?)
Without FOX the country would be a sterile socialist cesspool of mediocrity…it is well on its way..
The Real Royal King – must be another Obama apointee…
sueNaustin says:
March 14, 2010 at 3:39 pm
It has been a while back, but didn’t Fox News go to court to prove (and won) that they had the right to lie or deliberately distort news reports on public airwaves?
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where did you get that bit of nonsense..the Daily Koo-Koos??
it’s common knowledge that Dems are the lapdogs for trial lawyers.that’s why NO MALPRACTICE REFORM, NO TORT REFORM, and NO SENSE..
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