Let’s get this staight.
It is the Republicans that want to control women lives and women’s body.

oh man these guys hate women so much….no way they are going to win. 

4 white rich guys that went out of their way to alienate women, Hispanics, auto workers, and teachers.

Of course it did. For nearly four decades, the anti-choicers set the agenda. During this time, woman right’s were slowly eroded. Then came the 2010 elections, with the draconian assault on woman’s reproductive freedom. Susan B. Komen set the stage because their reason for termination was simply an out and out lie. It did not take long for most women to realize what was next. The Republican party then compounded their problem with the all male hit parade. November is nine months away ladies. I hope you remember.

The left wants government to control our lives.
The right wants religion to control our lives.
That’s a lose-lose proposition right there, but as an agnostic, I’ll take government. 

Can you tell what Ron Paul said about controlling women?  None.

Additionally, he was the only one that put women on an equal footing with men with regard to military combat.  

If Sarah Palin or Michelle Bachman had been up there they’d come up with some other excuse to criticize.  

“Four White Guys Telling Women How They’re Going To Control Your Lives” is an amazing viral video. Makes “2 Girls 1 Cup” look like Goatse

The difference is that while the left openly admits that there are times when government can be used to effect solutions, the right talks out of both sides of its mouth on this issue. They decry any government control of peoples’ lives — until it comes to their cherished social issues, like abortion, school prayer, same sex marriage, gays serving in the military. Then they’re only too happy to legislate restrictions on peoples’ rights.

yea but they arent.

I’m afraid we conservatives are going to lose the women vote if we keep this up.  

‘Debate Sounded Like Four White Guys Telling Women How They’re ‘Going To Control Your Lives’ David Gergen

That’s surely a vote winner for Republicans taking the strong and commanding lead in women’s’ rights!

…or maybe not!

Control a woman’s body?  I think that they pretty much said that Catholic institutions should be able to act in accordance with their religious beliefs..  I think it is hilarious that Nancy Pelosi is holding her own hearing today in which the primary witness will be a Georgetown Law student who will make the claim that Georgetown’s refusal to pay for her contraception threatens her health, and that she has a right to attend Georgetown as it offers her a superior education, and she should not have to make a choice…  

Considering that contraception costs about $700 a year, and a year at Georgetown Law is estimated to cost $63,750, it would seem to me that she should just incorporate another $700 into the annual costs of her education and figure the cost to attend Georgetown $64,450…  chalk it up as being part of the costs she pays for attending that superior university.  

http://www.top-law-schools.com/georgetown-law-center.html 

Is not Ghergin ‘white’?

When did woman’s rights get to the point of demanding that someone else pay for contraception…  that is what I want to know.  When was this established as a right… I need food to eat and survive, I think that the government should mandate that someone pay for it… I think that I am being discriminated against.  I think that it is my natural right to be able to eat so what the HELL IS THE GOVERNMENT GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?

You do not need to look at official jobless figures to determine that the economy is rebounding and hope is in the air again. You don’t need to look at the falling unemployment rate. Son’t need to watch the Dow hit 13,000, or home sales rebound to levels not seen in years. No, all you need to do to understand the recovery is to observe a Republican presidential debate, four men all running to depose Barack Obama, and half of the time is spent arguing about the “dangers” of birth control. Game over…  http://www.sunstateactivist.org

I asked this on two threads now and No answer :

 Just what are the ideas the Republican/Tea Party have put forth besides
hating homosexuals and women? What wonderful plans do they have to help
continue to dig Americans out of the horrible mess the Eight years
of Bush/Cheney left us?

They weren’t which should inform you about how Republican voters view women.

ouch…

 What women’s rights were eroded?

 You can opt out of religion. You can’t opt out of government.

 We have programs set up to help people in times of trouble.The Republican/Tea Party wants to get rid of them.You should pose your question to a Republican/Tea Party person not liberals.

Funny you say that given how the liberal media treat/treated them.

This is very very weird. Santorum said he opposes contraception personally. How does he manage not to have 100 babies? Why would he oppose contraception?

Government provides tax credits and funding for all sorts of things that it deems in the public interest — and which are good investments. Preventing unwanted births is a pretty tiny price to pay when compared to the potential of having to pay for years of care in various forms of welfare/assistance/medicaid/etc.

Obviously. It is odd people argue otherwise. 

The right doesn’t want our lives controlled by the teaching of Jesus, that would be socialism. They want us controlled by big corporations, oil companies, weapons manufacturers and assorted gamblers in the financial markets. They worship money, which contradicts Christ’s teaching.

Mr Stutterin stay on the topic and don’t dissemble…

‘More than half of American voters, 54 percent, said they approve of Obama’s plan to allow faith-affiliated employers to refrain from offering free birth control to employees while mandating that it be covered by insurers. Thirty-eight percent said they disapprove of the plan, a Quinnipiac survey found.Approval for the tweak to the administration’s rule was higher among women, 56 percent of whom gave a thumbs up, compared with 52 percent of men.’

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0212/73198.html

The reality is that most Americans (Men and mostly women) unfortunately are at odds with your opinion. 

…Hard Cheese!

I would just love to hear about all of the “success stories” of govt helping people, if there were any.   As was stated by a great man, “The most frightening 9 words in the English language are ‘I’m from the Govt and I’m, here to help.’

Does your mother know your writing this crap?

Just how did they alienate any of these groups?

Correct. Reality vs. fantasy. The left puts more faith in an institution that’s real (imperfect though it may be) and the right puts its faith in faith, something that ultimately cannot be proven, tested or verified.

Religion controls nothing! So you’d better look at the government you voted for!

Hey Jack…maybe women don’t care what  ”seems to you”

Call me a chauvinist pig but, I don’t ever want to see the beautiful women of the U.S. in harms way. But, if they volunteer, that’s another story.

We have the same type programs in place for women’s health, last time I checked Medicad is still available in all 50 states. 

Just exactly who are you talking about? If your talking about the habitual welfare parasites, or illegal alien parasites, I would readily agree!

Hey Caco, why don’t you just control your own mother

At least their would be some comedy…

You forgot Gay’s…..
Pull your pants back up CC… or close the curtains!!!!!

She would agree with me.

“I would just love to hear about all of the “success stories” of govt helping people, if there were any.”

That has got to be one of the most astonishingly clueless statements in the history of mediaite. I pity you and your very sad world where government is only out to wreck your life.

He has 7 or 8 kids already. So he does practice what he preaches.

Just how long would they be in place if the Republican/Tea Party were to get their way?

Bet you do real well with the women huh Jack

What would happen if we stopped paying for illegitimate children? I’m guessing the number would quickly fall to practically nothing. So, what it comes down to is whether society will be forced to pay for one or the other. I’m thinking, how about not paying for either, and lets see just how fast the bottom-feeders re-think their lifestyles.

David Gergen hangs out at the Bohemian Grove and dances naked with other men in some kind of weird ritual. This guy is out there.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-job9wwKPM

 I am talking about all Americans.I myself do not sit as judge and jury of anyone. Even foolish people have the right in America to say their piece. We are seeing plenty of that in the Republican/Tea party.

How is it down there on the bottom rung?

What nonsense, Gerbil.

We get the Media Matters narrative on the “women’s right to contraceptives” canard; and that canard being the innuendo that contraceptives would be inaccessible to women if the Catholic Church isn’t mandated by State Government to violate their religious tenets.

It’s the Democrats’ War On Religion.
It’s transparent.
It’s overreaching.
It’s offensive.
It’s unconstitutional.
…and it’s a GREAT VOTE GETTER!

Forward Christian soldiers, the WAR is asunder.
11-06-12

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Public opinion has little to do with something being right or wrong, the principle of the government mandating the health insurance that private employers will pay for on it’s face is wrong to me, then requiring that religious institutions pay for inclusions that are in direct contradiction to their doctrine imo is even worse…  it does fly in the face of the first amendment..  but hey that is just me… but if you are going look to public opinion for moral and judicial guidance I would suggest to you that the country is going to be in trouble, 

Why should insures be forced to pay for contraceptive devices? When the hell did this idiot president become dictator? Why the hell is this, or any government dictating social-sexual norms, or the means to control it?!
Leave the gutter-snipes to their own devices and watch how quickly they become celibate. Remove the safe-guard nets and it will only take one fall before these social misfits conform to reality.

With their positions on birth control, endorsement of Arizona’s policies on illegal immigration, opposing the bailouts of the auto industry, and outwardly opposing the teachers union as a cornerstone of education reform.

” What would happen if we stopped paying for illegitimate children?”

If you think the country will be better off for children that are malnourished or homeless or have to go to emergency rooms for their medical care, then I think you have your answer.

I used to obsess about this sort of thing when I was a conservative, too, but then when I looked at the real numbers I came to realize that my priorities were badly screwed up. When compared to corporate welfare and spending on things like expensive weapons systems, this represents a MINISCULE portion of the budget. LESS than miniscule.

Sorry, but paying for contraception is a sound conservative position. Very god investment for the money indeed.

  Just what are the ideas the Republican/Tea Party have put forth besides
hating homosexuals and women? What wonderful plans do they have to help
continue to dig Americans out of the horrible mess the Eight years
of Bush/Cheney left us?

David Gergan – I’m sure he knows how women feel!  HA.  David is just another CNNer sucking up to HEHIMSELFTHEONE. 

This is why no one watches CNN much anymore.

So predictable and pure BS. 

They also alienated koalas. Koalas side with conservation over industrialization.

 They brought it on themselves no matter how much you moan.

…Ja Mein Fuhrer!

I’ll give the Obama handlers credit for creating this straw man. No one on the Republican side has ever opposed a woman’s right to purchase birth control pills. The argument is false and Stephanopolos set it up, then Sibelius and Obama put it into play.

1) Obamacare should be declared UNCONSTITUTIONAL

2) HHS does not have the constitutional authority to force a religious organization to violate its religious principles to provide a product that is directly in opposition to its RELIGIOUS beliefs.

3) Why in the He!! should I, or anyone else pay for FREE BIRTH CONTROL for ANYONE? What are all those taxpayer funds given to Planned Parenthood about? Birth control pills are NOT very expensive- you can buy them for less than a normal smoker pays on a weekly basis for cigarettes.

4) It is RANK B.S. to say that this is about “ACCESS.” There isn’t anyone in this country who cannot get birth control pills (unless they are underage- and I don’t know the legality of the age issue).

5) Any woman stupid enough to buy into the “ACCESS’ argument is probably too stupid to understand how to take the pill anyway, in my opinion.

Really Tina? This is your argument.How sad.

As long as the insurance pays for Viagra, they should pay for contraceptives.

HAHA. 

No problems here, and I am not against contraception and of course not women, just the force used by the government to make someone else pay for it.  But, given how the left would frame any fight especially when it comes to the confiscation and appropriation of someone else’s money that is what the argument must boil down to…  right?

Just wait until the draft has to be re-instated and then watch the women and gays scream to high Heaven!

 Obviously you didn’t watch the debate, and are otherwise uninformed of the issues and policy proposals the GOP candidates have been speaking on for the past 6 months.

Don’t be too concerned anyway, because the whole political landscape changes after Israel hits Iran, or vice-versa.

And Israel will not limit the strikes to nuke sites.
In for a dime, in for a dollar.
They’ll wipe out the whole government.

Put it this way, the closer Obama gets to being re-elected, the closer the Ayatollahs are to those 72 Virgins!
lol

 My 75 year old mother agrees.  My 52 year old wife agrees.  I do not know ONE woman who disagrees.

I can’t believe you said that. Regan was clueless. Look at the record not the myth.

Spoken like a man.
Correction, a right leaning male.

What pay for Viagra?

Tyler, you’re wrong- a lot of women understand that this is a straw man argument and a lot of us know how inexpensive and readily available birth control pills are. I do NOT believe that I or my tax dollars should pay for FREE birth control pills for ANY women- nor do I think I or my tax dollars should pay for FREE CONDOMS. 

Women are not as stupid as the Democrat Party thinks we are. Forget the “birth control moms” (an interesting dichotomy anyway), instead, fear the “menopausal moms!”

And now a Republican/Tea Party man is calling The Sarah Palins daughter, who is not married and has an child,  a bottom feeder.Take notice Republican/Tea Party women! Have you no pride.

 That’s not an answer.

I think you just think  want control over women…period ..and guess what…. it aint going to happen…and you cant stand can you…so you make up this big hullaballo about confiscation over this issue? All of a sudden.  What a crock….

 No, the left is invested in this fantasy that government can solve everything. It’s a religion all it’s own, but one that doesn’t allow for opting out and enforces its will at gunpoint.

 ”Religion is the opiate of the masses”

- and the teabagged.

Riiiighhttt.  The fall of the Soviet Empire, 30 years of growth, defeat of stagflation, all of that didn’t happen.   And it all collapsed because we had too much freedom from govt.   Did your father marry his sister?

Her experiences had very little if anything to do with her testimony. Her testimony mostly detailed the experiences of other women who have had to deal with the additional expenses of their insurance companies not providing coverage for birth control. This is not exclusive to a Georgetown law student but women in college, working women, women who rely on their significant other’s insurance plans, etc.

 It’s a sanctity of life thing. Catholics don’t believe that pregnancy is a disease or that children are a curse.

Yeah, it was a telling moment when the Republican attendees of one of the debates booed a serving U.S. soldier the moment he said he was gay. And none of the Republican candidates cared enough to comment on that. 

I am not against contraception, believe me, I understand the implications of taking contraception out of this society, I am against the methods that the government is employing to achieve their goals and the expansion of their regulatory powers… there is a principled argument to be made here without making the fight about women’s rights or into a fight over contraception. You assume rights that do not exist and have never existed, to have someone else pay for your personal responsibility which to me is plainly contrary to the principles of freedom, but then when you force them to do so in when it is contrary to their moral beliefs then to me it is plainly wrong…

 You being a woman should have more pride in your Sex than this. Don’t cry to anyone when the Republican/Tea party want to take away your right to vote.

So, I guess that this answer contained your listing of govt success stories, right?

 List what they are instead of changing the subject.Is it because you do not know?

That is a relief.

Once again, Pablo feigns ignorance. 

See link for details: http://www.guttmacher.org/media/inthenews/2011/07/13/index.html

“In the first six months of 2011, states enacted 162 new provisions related to reproductive health and rights. Fully 49% of these new laws seek to restrict access to abortion services, a sharp increase from 2010, when 26% of new laws restricted abortion. The 80 abortion restrictions enacted this year are more than double the previous record of 34 abortion restrictions enacted in 2005—and more than triple the 23 enacted in 2010. All of these new provisions were enacted in just 19 states.” 

 I believe you already have an answer.

NOTHING.

The teabagged HAVE NOTHING but their bit chin, flag wavin’ and buyble thumpin’

You truly are an ignorant person. 

Sarah Palin could tell us how abstinence worked for Bristol & Bachmann could tell us how you could pray the pregnancy away. It would be a horrible representation of women or human intelligence.

 Yes, like Eric Erickson, Republicans and Independents Against Palin’s Hate-Mongering, Peggy Noonan, any republican with a brain.

 Bingo.

 You are a complete blithering idiot.  Please point out where Jesus message was a command to govt to control our lives.   Where did he address the role of govt to take up the burdens he articulated, other than his response to the pharisees about whose image was on the coin?   Just where do you see “socialism” in Jesus message?

Tina,

Do you, your mother, sisters, daughters, female friends, use contraception?

Should children in public schools, secular, government paid schools, be taught the facts of life and its consequences?

Ron Paul clearly does have a point of view, and it’s pro-life. To many, that translates to “controlling women.” 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Ron_Paul#Abortion-related_legislation 

“Paul has said that the ninth and tenth amendments to the U.S. Constitution do not grant the federal government any authority to legalize or ban abortion, stating that “the federal government has no authority whatsoever to involve itself in the abortion issue.”[152] However, this has not stopped Paul from voting in favor of a federal ban on partial-birth abortion in 2000[153] and 2003.[154]“

 maybe

Santorum: Our Abortion Was Different
http://oursilverribbon.org/blog/?p=188

LOL, only place that I have heard of that was in the Wisconsin School Teacher’s contracts… I guess that was another “right” that Scott Walker took from those poor union workers.

Let’s take a look at the facts. Is she on welfare? Is she spending food-stamps? Is she and her family being responsible for the child, minus taxpayer money?
If she is using taxpayer money to support her mistake, you have an argument, if not, then your and idiot!!

 I want an answer from the ones who are Republican/Tea party folks.

So you actually believe the fall of the USSR has to do with some dimwit the White House? You can find out that  Bless you. 

You can very easily find out that for the last three decades the income of Americans stangnated. It is true the financial sector and corporations made out like bandits. This is Reagan’s legacy. Look it up. Your fantasy doesn’t count. You can look at the figures. They are everywhere.

It is if you have a little imagnation. My guess is no one cares if you think your silly questions are answered or not. 

I can imagine. Free, go for it! That falls directly in line with your philosophy. As long as someone else is paying for it, I can see every woman in your family lining up….

 If we stopped paying via Food Stamps/WIC etc…Children would starve.

 Have you not heard about Greek women who have lost there jobs, gotten to the point that they have lost 50 pounds which probably brings there weight down to 75-80 pounds…They had to finally go to the Greek Orthodox Church’s  orphanages and leave their children there, because at least there they knew they would be fed.

 That’s what happens when you take away the safety net. God forbid that your daughter gets pregnant or someone else in your family that the guy leaves say for Afghanistan and is killed or any other excuses that can be made, Even just by skipping town. God knows that before they had sex she didn’t ask for the guys SS#.

 $700 for birth control per annum vs $20,176 per annum for WIC, and possibly $3,000 for Food Stamps (they use EBT cards now).  Which is
more cost effective to you? Total WIC payments for the 5 years of eligibility would be nearly $102,000 given the fact that inflation will make that annual rate rise.

 Which would you rather pay $700 or $20,176 per year?
or
$3,500 vs $102,000 + $39,000..the amount of food stamps after WIC runs out and they qualify for food stamps for 13 years?

I think the Bill of Rights was pretty helpful. Some of those amendments were okay, too (except the ones that ended slavery and gave women the right to vote. Those were a mistake).

She would, or does? Are you sure, or is she just trying to keep you emotionally quiet so you don’t hurt yourself?

 Bingo.

“…the left is invested in this fantasy that government can solve everything.”

Citation, please.

I’ve never once met anyone on the left who said that government can solve “everything.” Not one. Ever.

You’re falling back on one of the laziest and most easily-discredited arguments of conservatives. But it’s a complete fairy tale. Just like that book you and those GOP frauds you call candidates want to use to restrict peoples’ private lives.

Come on Republican/Tea party folks answer the question,Please;
Just what are the ideas the Republican/Tea Party have put forth besides
hating homosexuals and women? What wonderful plans do they have to help
continue to dig Americans out of the horrible mess the Eight years
of Bush/Cheney left us?

‘ if you are going look to public opinion for moral and judicial guidance…’

…That’s a stretch.

The compromise deal has already been presented and the public opinions are subsequent!Nevertheless, it’s never a never a negative (or is it?) when the public feel favorably concerned about a Bill that for many is a matter of personal choice and a woman’s right to choose.

http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2012/02/23/mo-female-reps-ignored-on-contraception-debate/

http://www.mpbn.net/Home/tabid/36/ctl/ViewItem/mid/3478/ItemId/20486/Default.aspx

Unconstitutional?

We shall see…

…Try some Roquefort Hard Cheese!

 Hannity Blasts Insurance Coverage For Birth Control, Defends Viagra: ‘That Is A Medical Problem!’

Jack Cafferty: Viagra Is For A Medical Condition, Birth Control Is A “Lifestyle Choice”

Why Catholic Groups’ Health Plans Say No To Contraceptives, Yes To Viagra

The right to control her reproduction and body.  The right to control what goes in her vagina at any given time.  The right to equal treatment with males when it comes to her medical needs.  The right to be a sovereign human being and not the reproductive chattel the Religious Right desperately want them to be

You’ve already shown that you’re too incredibly stupid to be persuaded, so what’s the point? Anyone with google and a few minutes could list a few hundred government programs that have helped people get clean water, safe roads, medical care, job training, a hot meal, a home loan, whatever. But you have a narrative that the government is evil and dedicated to making your life a living hell, so I’m not going to waste my time. Continue to live in your idiocy and paranoia, mac. You sound like you prefer it to living in the real world.

Omigosh, are you really this stupid???   The Bill of Rights is a RESTRICTION upon the govt.  It is not govt success stories, it is the rights of the people to be free from govt overreach.  And that is your example?   Wow, do you leftists ever have complete ignorance of the Bill of Righs and its purpose.  Try reading some history that wasn’t written by that fraud, Howard Zinn.

Correct me if I’m wrong. Your list of Republican alienation points are exactly on point with what Americans are looking for.

You have never thought this through have you. $700 for birth control vs $8,000 for a normal delivery, and possibly $25,000 for a C-Section. Please let me know which you think an insurer would rather pay.

The cost of an $8,000 delivery would pay for over 11 Prescriptions of Birth Control.

The cost of an $25,000 C-Section delivery would pay for over 35 Prescriptions of Birth Control.

Now I don’t know if you run a insurance company or not..My guess would be that you don’t. Given the cost effective for them..They would much rather pay $700 a year.

Let’s ignore for a minute the fact that you are referring to human beings as parasites. The point of these programs is not simply to help “parasites” in need. They are to help society as a whole. As a country, we figured out from the two Great Depressions and other times of hardship that allowing large percentages of fellow citizens to simply starve isn’t exactly good for the economy. Capitalism relies on healthy consumers with a little dough to spend, but there are clearly times when people fall on hard times and live in conditions when they simply cannot survive on their own, whether through losing jobs in a poor local economy, illness, or other issues. Even though a fraction of welfare recipients abuse the system, having a safety net in place is better alternative for the rest of the country than having nothing at all. 

Look at statistics prior to the passage of Social Security and welfare.  Starvation among the elderly, for example, was once very high in this country. During the Great Depression, teenagers in some community were told by their families to fend for themselves, which raises crime and violence. Social programs like public education and welfare aren’t perfect but they hugely helped the U.S. grow not only in population but in power over the last 100 years. 

Apparently not, since the Right wants our children learning creationism not science, wants our women with their feet permanently in stirrups popping out babies every nine months or being pumped full of dildo ultrasound wands, wants to outlaw Muslims free expression of their religion, wants to enforce fundamentalist Christian morality to make sure two people that love each other are considered subhuman, wants every politician to be on a mission from God, want christian prayers and holidays to be observed by everyone, regardless of their faith and countless other abhorrent, small minded and decidedly un Jesus-like thing comes into their hate-filled reptilian brains

Exactly.
Why is it the same people who complain about taking care of children of unwed mothers and welfare recipients don’t want to prevent such things?

Pay for the boner, let the mom worry about the consequences.

  caconservative

Let’s take a look at the facts. Is she on welfare? Is she
spending food-stamps? Is she and her family being responsible for the
child, minus taxpayer money?    
If she is using taxpayer money to support her mistake, you have an argument, if not, then your and idiot!!

She is fortunate she and her family have money. Using  the taxpayer money thing could be argued because the Sarah Palin got most of her money from taxpayers.

She make a good hypocrite republican though.

Making commercials promoting abstinence.

Help these fools understand, exGOPman. 

BooBoo Bear, I know that your heart is in the right place, but you only look at the immediate problem and not at causation.  When you say ”
That’s what happens when you take away the safety net.”

I would suggest to you that this is what happens when government assumes responsibility over more and more of the needs of it’s citizens to the point that it spends itself into bankruptcy.  Had government not developed a system in their society that allowed people to think that their needs were going to be taken care of by government, they would have already made accommodations in their lives to be more self reliant in meeting their needs… The people of Greece became overly dependent on their government, their government continued to placate the people by over extending their budgets and finding even new ways that they could provide for the people..   the people became so dependent that they no longer have social systems in place that are self sustaining, and when the government fiscally collapsed now people are truly hurting and the government has no ability to react because the money’s all gone…  

That is just the hard reality that many choose not to see, Greece is not taking the safety net away, they have destroyed their safety net by making it into more than they could afford for it to be.. now it is lost and people  are hurting, and nothing can be done about it.  

 Goddness, what a clueless idiot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27uKHXRFqMI

Aren’t you glad your mother didn’t have an abortion (you)?  Abortions actually hurt women mentally and physically, I know I did it, and I regret it.  I sure don’t want to pay for it.  I pray they win.  And, stop killing babies.  At least give them up for adoption.  . 

He may have only had sex 35 to 50 times, just because he has 7 or 8 kids doesn’t mean that he has sex all the time. He’s had sex with his wife 7 or 8 times during that one week of the month that the egg is available. Perhaps he uses the “Pull Out method” for those other times.

Don’t forget she is good to look at.Seems that was really important to the Republican/Tea Party folks.

“The second is this, ‘YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.” 

Mark 12:31  
31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne.32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.   34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’   37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’   40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’   41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’   44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’   45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’   46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”
Matthew 25:31-46
“The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim liberty to the captives and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty those who are oppressed, to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor.” Luke 4:18-19But if anyone has the world’s goods and sees his brother in need, yet closes his heart against him, how does God’s love abide in him? Little children, let us not love in word or talk but in deed and in truth. 
1 John 3:17-18
and from the old testament just for good measure

If among you, one of your brothers should become poor, in any of your towns within your land that the Lord your God is giving you, you shall not harden your heart or shut your hand against your poor brother, but you shall open your hand to him and lend him sufficient for his need, whatever it may be. Take care lest there be an unworthy thought in your heart and you say, ‘The seventh year, the year of release is near,’ and your eye look grudgingly on your poor brother, and you give him nothing, and he cry to the Lord against you, and you be guilty of sin. You shall give to him freely, and your heart shall not be grudging when you give to him, because for this the Lord your God will bless you in all your work and in all that you undertake. For there will never cease to be poor in the land. Therefore I command you, ‘You shall open wide your hand to your brother, to the needy and to the poor, in your land.’ Deuteronomy 15:7-11

Sanctorum, wonderful person, loves his big family, has values, performed well in Congress.  Newt is brilliant, has converted to being a Catholic and reformed (women) and can help dig USA out of its problems, Ron Paul is a doctor, very smart, and has many good plans.  Mitt is the wealthy one, has made it, great at business, helped the Olympics make money, all of these men are well qualified…all Obama has done is be a Community Organizer, without credentials/ 

My daughter is a teacher and wants “anyone expect Obama.”

Just a fyi, the crusades ended a really looooooooooooong time ago.

The care of those less fortunate than us is our Christian duty, and the government is the most effective tool to safeguard, and I am more than happy for a contribution of mine to be made in taxes as well as in my own personal charitable endeavors 

I sure as hell sit in judgment when it’s my taxpaying dollars paying for this crap! Stop taking my tax-dollars, and I will stop judging. Until then, I’m judging away, and I think it’s time more people started judging and speaking up. It is not my, or anyone else’s responsibility to pay for the mistakes other people make.

Well if it helps I don’t advocate for the inclusion of Viagra…

I guess Hannity might have some issues that his folks don’t know about.  

Don’t forget gays.

No Pablo, YOU are invested to narrow mindlessly believe that dogma that the left believe government can solve everything.  Gee, I wonder who you have been listening to all these years that would put that kind of ignorant thinking into your head?  Here is a bit of common sense and history.  Any progress that this country has made for the betterment of the common man and woman couldn’t have happened without the government’s involvement.  But here is a true oxymoron.   When government tends to really screw up it is when the you elect too many people who, like you, thinks government is bad into government at all levels.  You get it?  Just look around and see what the current crop of tea party republicons have been doing since elected in the 2010 midterm on all levels. 

By the way, I disagree with your notion that you can opt out of religion but you can’t opt out of the government.  You can always get the f*** out this country and go to someplace like… Somalia where you won’t have to deal with any kind of  pesky government.

Rick Santorum was heavily involved with Jerry Sandusky and Second Mile which was pimping out children to wealthy donors. When that story comes it it’s all over for Rick “pervert” Santorum

The pull out method would be as wrong as contraception.  

In their eyes.  Right?  I don’t wanna get too graphic but… 

They think wasting spooge is somehow immoral or wrong?

In my teens I wasted it daily

No one is being denied the opportunity to purchase any contraceptives.  Just because the liberal media is in cohoots with Obama, doesn’t mean the message they are spreading is factual…indeed it it not.

I liked what you said.  Have you notice how rarely the GOP mentions Bush/Cheney?  I do have one small quibble… Tea party is what my niece has with her imaginary friends on rainy Sunday afternoons.  I prefer calling them what they are: radical religious right-wing extremists.
STAND FOR PROGRESS.  STAND WITH PROGRESSIVES!

I know there’s a question in there. Maybe you could just ask it. If your not too afraid of making yourself look a little more stupid than you already do.

Hmm, not in that camp, but another idea is that Obama is a socialistic, muslim, Nazi or in another words Satan who is destroying America and must be stopped by any means. Something crazy like that.

Yeah, that makes sense. All you have to do is re-think your life. Say for example, you’re born in a small rural town in the Rio Grande Valley in Texas. Your public education sucks. Your family rakes in $20K for three or four people. There are no jobs except to work at the local Wal-Mart. A family member gets cancer without insurance, leaving you to help earn money and care for the individual (meaning you can’t leave for other opportunities.) In short, you’re a bottom-feeding parasite. 

Now all you need to do is rethink your lifestyle. It’s so easy. Just start thinking that you were born into a upper middle class/wealthy community and your father hooked you up by paying for four years at Harvard and then got you a job making a measly $200K at a firm his friend runs. You’re not wealthy, to be sure, but because you’re such a hard worker, you hate the government breathing down your neck and giving your tax dollars to the lazy bottom-feeders. 

Perfect solution, caconservative. Both of those examples are easily found in this country but the former are just people who need to start pretending that they weren’t too lazy to be handed huge advantages from birth onward. 

And, we ought not forget Willard’s eager acceptance of the Wall Street Bailout. Government at work.

I really couldn’t tell you but unless DC gets serious about budgetary issues including Social Security, Medicare, and Medicad… none of it will be in place not so far out into the future.  Taxing the rich is not going to do squat as the problems are much larger than that. 

I think your missing the crux of the issue. This is not about the children, it’s about removing the taxpayer money that promotes deviant sexual behavior. As long as these women know they can expect to be helped, this behavior will promote itself.
The children of are a separate argument.

Really? As opposed to what? One black guy telling everybody how he’s going to control their lives?

 You are a complete blithering idiot.
She stated NOTHING about govt control.

Mark Chapter 10:21-25 21Jesus
looked at him and loved him. “One
thing you lack,” he said. “Go,
sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in
heaven. Then come, follow me.” 22At this the man’s face fell. He went away sad, because he had great
wealth. 23Jesus looked around
and said to his disciples, “How hard it is for the rich to enter the
kingdom of God!” 24The
disciples were amazed at his words. But
Jesus said again, “Children, how hard it is to enter the kingdom of God! 25It is easier for a camel to go
through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of
God.”

I think you know neither women nor gays.

Oh, please enlighten me, O wise one.  Just where in all of that do you find “socialism?”   

Partial birth abortion amounts to killing a baby.  How is a baby a human being 1 sec after birth and a toy 1 sec before birth?

I would agree with you if Paul supported no abortion for raped women, but that is not the case. 

Don’t forget she is good to look at.Seems that was really important to the Republican/Tea Party folks.

—

I think that disturbed me most of all. That anyone would find this tarted up woman attractive can only mean that people don’t find women beautiful.

Not my cup of tea, but I guess the plastic surgery did do wonders

Not free idiot.
Same Insurance for all.
Same insurance that ok’s viagra.

Who’s being forced to take contraception against their will? If you can cite that, I’d agree with you.

The fact is that we all pay for government initiatives that we don’t support or need or that we feel are against our values. Ask the millions of people who opposed the wars in the middle east but still have to contribute to the defense budget. Or ask a childless couple why they should pay just as much in school taxes as their neighbors who have a brood of 10 kids. It’s an imperfect system, but — to use a Santorumism — we all have to occasionally take one for the team. That’s not socialism or government “overreach,” but just the reality of living in an interrelated society where we all have to share the same space and resources.

Anyone who thinks that Jesus’ commands were for more govt, is not a Christian.   Anyone who thinks that the commands of Jesus are discharged by supporting more govt is not a Christian.   His commands were to individuals, for individual salvation.  You may be a happy slave by giving to the govt but that doesn’t mean that the message of Jesus was that we need ever more and more govt beaurocrats.

GOP=people need to take car of themselves.
GOP=community organizer (help people to take car of themselves) is bad.
GOP=stupid

Republican/Tea Party are one in the same.Being run by dickheads.

And exactly where in the Gospel is Jesus calling for more govt?   Are you on the left so idiotic that you cannot grasp the difference between a command for personal salvation and responsibility and govt theft and power?

 Did your daughter teach you?

I agree, anyone should expect Obama to be re-elected.

hopefully shes not an English teacher

The issue is providing another FREE service. Which is not free, we all know that. Someone will pay for it and that someone will be those who pay the premiums. Money taken from one group of responsible people and given to those who are not responsible. How about removing the safety net on all levels? How long, and fast, do you think the number of children born out of wedlock would fall? When the responsibility for caring for a child falls directly on the shoulders of the parents, and the family, sexual norms will promptly be modified.

Maybe also because women know women don’t die in child birth at nearly the rate they did before birth control came along. The equation women know:

more women’s reproductive health services = 

more use of birth control; more sex & a lot more of it with less worry; less unplanned, unsustainable, unwanted, doomed or mom-killing pregnancies; longer life for women.

Yes, community organize, become the first black president, win the Nobel Prize for peace, pass universal healthcare, save GM, kill bin Laden, bring down Gadaffi, get us out of Iraq, get us thru the recession and on a pathway to recover, but other than that…

 In the same way that democrats and progressives are one and the same and being run by a dickhead? Guffaw

Not free?! Just what part of FREE CONTRACEPTION, are you not understanding, moron?
Viagra is payed for with the premiums the insured pays, it is not free…. 

Not for the Americans I listed.

TVA, CCC, Civil Rights Act, Women’s Suffrage, Emancipation Proclamation, Welfare, Social Security, Medicaid, WIC programs, public schools, roads, telephones, TV’s, satellites, seatbelts, airbags, traffic lights, building codes, the Coast Guard, the US armed forces, standards of care in medicine, literally every single thing around you the government has provided the infrastructure, security, and regulations that made it possible. 

 For someone who follows the LBRUL media in cahoots with Obama so closely, you seem to have forgotten WHY we are discussing the issue of contraception.

I’ll say it again. If the xtian taliban like Santorum had his way, many forms of birth control would even be considered illegal.

 and mrs. philby the “Christian.”

But that’s YOUR experience & that was YOUR own choice, right Miss Texasjo? And you certainly don’t want to interfere with the choices of OTHERS, right Miss Texasjo? Any more than you’d want them interfering with YOUR own choice? 

If money = speech, then sex = speech.

shes dead

SOME Americans.

SOME Americans are also into love with animals.

Religious organizations, especially those the are involving themselves in enterprises other than places of worship, should be subjected to the same rules and regulations that other enterprises are required to follow in this country.  If a church doesn’t want to comply, then it should limit itself to being a church or place of worship ONLY.

I don’t give a sh*t where you want you tax dollars directed.  You make it sound like you are the only with a grievance about how their taxpayer dollars are spent.

I have read constitutional arguments for and against healthcare, and most likely it will come down to a 5-4 split decision. So your statement doesn’t matter for spit.

No where did I make any assumptions about people being forced to take contraceptives against their will, I do not know where you got that from…

Take one for the team?

For many this is a fight against an expanse of governmental reach and regulatory control, and has little to do with contraception, but rather questions the governments right to direct the spending of and define the products to be purchased by the private sector.  

A woman to the men in govenrmnet:  You take care of your parts – and I’ll take care of mine.  Nough said.

I’d watch the foul comments regarding second mile there.  This is how ugly innuendos suddenly become “facts” to fools like yourself.  You don’t spread slime just because you have access to a computer.

Sandusky will get his day in court.  If he is guilty of the horrible vile things they say he did – the key will be thrown away.  To paint a charity that has helped an awful lot of children because of Sandusky is far from fair.  There are creeps, perverts and vile people in all areas where children are involved.  It is up to us adults to weed them out and make sure they don’t have the opportunity to hurt any child.  

Keep it honest,  Don’t make up b.s. to further your agenda.  It lessens your message and portrays your message as dishonest.  I’m sure Ron Paul would be thrilled with you – not.

I didn’t see the parts where they alienated gays but if they discussed marriage I’m sure they did.

Your daughter the teacher says “anyone expect Obama”? Good grief.

Wow, what a great story. No where in your sob story did I see a word about personal responsibility. Or, is that only practiced by middle-class and rich people. I guess, down there at Wolly-World, responsibility doesn’t come with a happy face. Yes Sir, by a mobile-home, loose your responsibility….where can I sign up for that?!!!

So let me get this straight? It is an infringement on women’s reproductive rights if you do not pay for their birth control out of your own pockets? American society is now officially FUBAR.

Rather silly questions.  What has someone using contraception have to do with anything?

You still haven’t got the message that we understand you want to change the subject, but the subject isn’t about contraception, even though you’d like it to be.

You’re welcome to go into any drugstore and buy a years supply of condoms, foam, all sorts of other contraception products and I don’t have to know about it, pay for it, or even listen to your misplaced, false, tirade.  

Then you can take your sorry butt over to planned parenthood and get your pills for free – or if you forgot to take them, because you don’t feel like being responsible for any personal choices, you can have an abortion right on the spot!  One stop shopping – just for you,

As to what anyone does concerning their sexual habits – this is a blog, not a perv site.  Go elsewhere to get your jolly’s.  

then you wonder why your health insurance is so high.  Nothing free in life sweet pea.  

I understand they hate the President of the United States.I want to know what the Republican/Tea Party’s plans are besides hating homosexuals and women.

You realize that when you make asinine statements such as you just made – you’ve lost the argument.  

This debate was about whether insurance would pay for the contraception. Insurance is NOT free. Women would have to pay for insurance and contraception. Seemingly insurance companies would rather pay for contraception rather than pregnancy. Most employers already have to cover preventative care for women and for the Insurers to offer it if they offer it for men. That law has be around for a decade and is held up by Title VII of the Civil Rights Act.

http://motherjones.com/politics/2012/02/controversial-obama-birth-control-rule-already-law

Repubs–scared to death somebody might get a freebie that they themselves didn’t get. ☺

You have the nerve to comment on someone’s argument? lol

You who just made the most assinine statement possible?  

Are you serious?

btw – what the hell is with the stupid comb-over.  Who is David fooling?  Please tell him when you get home that it just looks like his head is at a permanent rakish angle! lol

So these 4 middle-aged to older rich white male Republicans go into this bar, and commence deciding things for poor people, women, laborers, students, health care, roads & bridges, Wall Street banking, jobs, nuclear bombs, and the like. And at one point, one of the four, who just happens to be the oldest one, says, You know fellahs, I don’t think we should be talking about nuking Iran when we don’t even have the first idea of what’s going on there. Whereupon the others stare at him for a second, do a double-take, then all get it at the same time, and start laughing so hard they have trouble breathing, until one of them says, That was great – now, back to deciding. 

A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away…It is a period of civil war. Rebel spaceships, striking from a hidden base, have won their first victory against the evil Galactic Empire.
During the battle, Rebel spies managed to steal secret plans to the Empire’s ultimate weapon, the Death Star, an armored space station with enough power to destroy an entire planet.
Pursued by the Empire’s sinister agents, Princess Leia races home aboard her starship, custodian of the stolen plans that can save her people and restore freedom to the galaxy….

then I’m sure you thought Obama’s attempt to get money by quoting the bible was the dumbest thing you’ve ever heard.  The “masses” bought it – the rest of us thought it was lame, dishonest and opportunistic.

Maybe you missed the word “habitual” in my remark? You know, those scumsucking, parasites that have made a life out of feeding off of taxpayer money and have no intention of ever becoming productive citizens. Add to that the criminal trespassers called illegal aliens who are stealing upward of $115-Billion a year and growing.  

Basically, what Gergen said is, it is better to have 1 black man control your lives than 4 white men any day. How the hell did race enter into this, and why do so many white men feel so apologetic about it?  ANY mandates concerning contraceptives should have everyone thinking China.

TVA, a boondoggle that is rightly considered a disaster by people who deal with it, CCC?  are you kidding?  Civil Rights Act, designed to correct GOVT discrimination. that’s your success?  Public schools?  you really are kidding, now, right?  Roads?  I will give it a thumbs up.  seatbelts?  designed by private industry.  airbags, the same.  Armed forces, big thumbs up, one of the few items for govt to actually do found in the Constitution.  standards of care in medicine?  What planet are you currently living on?  security?  by bankrupting the country?

It’s a document created by the government that acknowledges and codifies the proper role and scope of government. So stop wailing like a Neanderthal with your liberal-hating blinders on and maybe you’ll get my point.

they put forth the idea of hating homosexuals and women?  Who knew?

Bush covered your sorry ass for 8 years.  So sorry he hadn’t budgeted for 9/11.

You people are just vile, dishonest and have not a brain among you.

Obviously you dont have it straight…you do have the DNC talking points down though, which are designed to influance those who are easily influanced.

You mean the special interest groups Obimbo relies on to stay in power?

Yes its very unchristian to happily pay taxes I know go to keep the hungry fed, the cold warm, and the sick healthy.  Jesus’ message was to make sure that those things happened, he never said how.  Whether I hand a dollar to man on a street or he gets a dollar’s worth of food stamps paid for by my taxes I fed him all the same.  This constant Republican harping on Individual responsibility is anathema to real Christian morality as taught in the Gospels, not from the pulpit.  The bottom line is more people are helped by these government programs than without them, more are fed and clothed and cared for now after the New Deal than they were 100 years ago, and our tax dollars make that possible through government programs.  Private charity has existed for millenia but it wasn’t until the past 50 years that America or any country has had a standard of living to this level, and it is entirely because of government.  That is a demonstrable fact and fulfillment of Jesus’ second commandment: “Love they Neighbour”

Is it your business?  Does he ask you about your sexual habits?

Perhaps it’s time for you to go back to the birds and bees.

Some president would rather sing, than lead.

The facts don’t support your statement that more birthcontrol equates to less worry and less unplanned pregnancies….but why let that get in the way of a good narrative…right?

Nice way to sell your sex out Titzy. It sure looks like the Republican/Tea Party men run your life.How sad. Sure hope you are nice enough looking for their standards or you are worthless to them.

In the LDS religion any worthy male can be given the priesthood and is given specific duties. Black people were not allowed to have the priesthood until 1978. Females are not allowed to have the priesthood.
D&C 107: 1-5 1 There are, in the church, two priesthoods, namely, the Melchizedek and Aaronic, including the Levitical Priesthood. 2 Why the first is called the Melchizedek Priesthood is because Melchizedek was such a great high priest. 3 Before his day it was called the Holy Priesthood, after the Order of the Son of God. 4 But out of respect or reverence to the name of the Supreme Being, to avoid the too frequent repetition of his name, they, the church, in ancient days, called that priesthood after Melchizedek, or the Melchizedek Priesthood. 5 All other authorities or offices in the church are appendages to this priesthood.
Official Declaration – 2, 1978Aware of the promises made by the prophets and presidents of the Church who have preceded us that at some time, in God’s eternal plan, all of our brethren who are worthy may receive the priesthood, and witnessing the faithfulness of those from whom the priesthood has been withheld, we have pleaded long and earnestly in behalf of these, our faithful brethren, spending many hours in the Upper Room of the Temple supplicating the Lord for divine guidance.

the sell everything you have and give to the poor and you will have treasure in heaven

That pretty much nails it right there, sorry the Apostle Mark didn’t look 2000 years into the future to use a word in a language that didn’t even exist yet.  

Calling Santorum’s Childs birth an abortion is beyond vile.  

The hate, the dishonesty and the smears against another human are beyond contemptible.

If it would have been an “abortion” – Obama’s friends would have been right there with the scissors dickhead.  

Santorum might as well rename himself Torquemada. Newt’s a two-bit backwash junior college blowhard phony-academic & always was. RoPaul’s a cranky old gold bug who hates civil rights for anyone, wants to repeal all government reform since the 1890s. Me-me-me Mittens got Congress to throw almost a billion & half dollars to SL City in order to give the impression of balanced books, and otherwise while at Bain played a high-sakes bait-and-switch age with consumers & competitors alike. 

One nutso belief is as good as another.

I have a story of additional expenses incurred because the government doesn’t mandate that my car insurance provide free oil changes as well….I want you and everyone else to pay for my oil changes damnit!  If not, you are obstructing my pursuit of happiness!

prove your statement regarding Hannity and Viagra.

Otherwise we classify you as a liar and smear merchant.  

@caconservitive:disqus So would birth control.  They’re not gonna hand it out like candy on the streetcorners, they just want the same rights as men to have their health needs paid for by their insurance.  Its not rocket science, this is like kindergarten level reading comprehension

Actually, I think it is in the constitution that the government and by extension, the tax payer is responsible for financing the sexual lifestyle of citizens…..
 
Nancy Pelosi (the catholic) said so…

 Whoa! Zeke!

Calling fellow human beings parisites? What about the children, disabled and elderly people that get welfare and food stamps? Are they parasites too? I guess it would make you happy for those folks to just starve to death.
 
No one likes a deadbeat but I would be interested to know how many of these “parasites” actually do not fall in one of these aforementioned categories.

Then you need to talk to a women who doesn’t feel she needs the government to support he every want and need.

You clearly have absolutely NO  understanding of Christianity.

Did anyone say they want control over women?  Anyone?

Don’t be so cheap and pay for your own condoms, birth control pills or any other “products” that you feel are necessary for your personal enjoyment.  

I think you don’t think.  I think you have not a clue and figured it sounded fine to say someone wants to control women.  

Is anyone controlling women now?  Is anyone stopping women from buying contraception?  Who?  Why? Where? When?

 Again you did not answer my question;

Just what are the ideas the Republican/Tea Party have put forth besides
hating homosexuals and women? What wonderful plans do they have to help
continue to dig Americans out of the horrible mess the Eight years
of Bush/Cheney left us?

 Oh, you cannot articulate a response to my point that, contrary to your assertions, the Bill of Rights is a restriction on govt, a limiting principle, and I’m the Neanderthal?   Wow.

How about my choice not to pay for the abortions of others through my tax dollars going the Planned Parenthood….

Liberals are the masters of interfering with other peoples choices, exerting their moral values over those that other hold, and they have been for 100 years…

Good God, all you arguments are so easy to kick over….

The Nobel Prize was purely a political ploy and nobody has been able to clearly articulate any valid reasons he was awarded it. He didn’t pass universal healthcare in the sense you mean (single payer) but a mandated system and some people will still fall through the cracks. Saved GM? I thought leftists were against bail outs of big corporations? He brought down Gadaffi with military intervention not authorized by Congress and in direct violation of the Constitution and the War Powers Act. I love how the “anti-war” leftists have been completely silent about Obama continuing the Bush foreign policy and now support it. Partisan hacks, the lot of ya. Got us through the recession? GDP may not be contracting, but last time, I looked unemployment has been extremely high, the housing markets is still in the dumps, the deficit is increasing, our currency is continuously being devalued, and the price of gas is through the roof.

 In that same respect President Barack Obama did not budget for the Bush/Cheney years.

Your ignorance about Christianity is just staggering.   Jesus message was to the individual, for the purposes of salvation, not for creating gigantic beauracracies.   That you seek to twist his message into something it is not, speaks volumes about you, not me.

TVA is the reason that I have power to type on this computer and that my apt isn’t underwater half the year.  The CCC gave my Grand-Uncle a job and money to put food in his belly during the Depression.  The Civil Rights act was a government act to limit racist practices by private business and state municipalities and was a truly progressive triumph over conservative ideals.  Public schools make sure that every kid can receive an education, that they have a chance for college, and that they can be safe and sound while their parents work during the day.  Seatbelts were designed by private industry, yes, but their use was mandated by the government and has saved countless thousands of lives, same with airbags. If there weren’t government mandates in medicine we’d still be taking heroin as cough syrup and haircutters would double as surgeons; instead we know our medicine is safe and our doctors are competent.  If you don’t like government get the hell out of America.  It’s the greatest thing about us and its been that way since the ink dried on the Constitution and George Washington was inaugurated.  

You think there is any woman out there who got preggers because she couldn’t get birth control pills? lol

You think it would change the habits of women who use the abortion clinics as their personal birth control methods?

You think women don’t have access to free birth control now?

You didn’t think that argument through.

Perhaps if you thought it through – women should have a personal visit from a nurse every evening to make sure they take their birth control pills – perhaps supply them with bottled water, and check under their tongues to make sure they don’t spit the pill out.  

Do you think people are responsible for themselves at any point in their lives?

 Jeffy,

How come you ain’t calling yourself teabagged anymore?

People just laugh at the sight of you?

Jesus’ message was to all mankind.  To love and to care for one another, not take away their only safety net and then ram dildoes up their vagina.  It’s your ignorance of Christ’s commandment that is astounding.  

Uh…  I somehow don’t think that I said that as I am more inclined to believe that this whole uproar is over the unconstitutional expansion of governmental power and specifically federal regulatory powers.  But who knows…  I hardly ever know just what it is that I am typing…  my screen is burned out on the monitor, the room is dark and I can’t see the keyboard to well…  

LOL…  take care. 

I don’t think your getting the point. When did it become our responsibility, and when did it become legal to force a private company to provide a free service by this government? Dismiss anything beyond your intelligent argument about the costs of child birth, and subsequent rearing of that child, and focus on just what the hell is wrong when a government takes it upon itself to force a private person, or business to provide a free service! Do you not see the inherent devil in this issue?!! This is a matter of our personal rights!! This government is clouding the real issue by covering it up with “THE CHILDREN”. Don’t be distracted by that. Focus on just what this corrupt government just did and what the consequences of that illegal precedence will bring in the future.  

oh really?  Where did Jesus say:  Make all the money you have by taking advantage of your workers.  Discriminate against your brothers, turn away immigrants and the poor and women.  Where did he say: I love rich people they are the greatest.  He spent time with sinners, prostitutes and tax collectors, not rubbing elbows with the wealthy

I didn’t say you said it

Again, your “understanding” of Jesus and his message could fit in a thimble.  He was speaking about individuals, not about enlarging the govt.   Pray tell, just where did Jesus say, “run annual deficits of $1.3trillion as far as the eye can see, and completely bankrupt the future of all your children?”   Oh, and make people who are of faith pay for abortions, too.  I must have missed that part.

 Jesus message was to individuals of free will, NOT TO GOVTs.  That you think his message was for greater govt, speaks volumes about your ignorance of Christianity.

 No ‘fast and bulbous’

Blah, blah, blah, divisive DNC talking points, blah blah blah…..yawn.

With your silly liberal logic, Obama would be alienating Gays because of his stance on Gay marriage.

But we all know that liberal logic is not something that is applied consistantly….

It is funny to watch though….

The New Testament is a very short book. Read it. You cannot be a follower of Jesus and argue we should ignore the poor and afflicted. It is one or the other, not both. 

After fuel prices reach the stratosphere this summer, a broken vacum cleaner could beat Obama….

Are we really doing this?

Although my original post never mentioned the restrictive nature of Bill of Rights, your knee-jerk hatred of liberals has moved the conversation in a different direction, so I’ll go with it. The Bill of Rights is a restriction upon government created by the government. A government wields power based on what it DOESN’T do, as much as what it DOES do. If the government decides not to make a law restricting freedom of religion, that’s still government exercising its power. In this case, their power is exercised to insure their power is restricted. Because, ultimately, the Founders COULD have made a law restricting freedom of religion. It was within their power to do that. But they chose not to.

Yeah, oil changes are just like human reproduction.  And women should have the same rights as your car.

the fact that you cannot articulate, and apparently don’t even understand, the difference between commands for private acts of charity, and govt largesse, is proof that you haven’t even basic understanding of Jesus and his message, to INDIVIDUALS.

Won the nobel prize for what?

Passed a healthcare bill that America still hates

Saved GM by buying it, screwed the sharholders to the wall, and still has not required GM to pay the taxpayer back.

Killed Bin Laden using the same intelligence aganies that Bush used for Iraq, but since they were right in this instance, it equates to a Gold Star.

Brought down Gadaffi without the consent of congress by doing the same thing that he bitched about when he was a Senator.

And the recession….hold on tight dude…

You clearly are the type of guy who listens to Colbert for information…

The devil made me do it “except.” Well, I have a slight dsylexia and should proof read, but I’m a writer, and have been published (after corrections), My daughter left a good banking job in the trust department to teach second grade and she buys all the disadvantaged kids their books, and sometimes we take them to lunch. She said she’s changing her vote, as she voted for Obama last time, but mow knows the inside story.

The right wing doesn’t realize it but Christianity is fatal to their cause of protecting the rich and ignoring and excluding ‘the losers’. Every time some right wing nutcase says he is a Christian, he neccessarily  becomes a hypocrite: a great crime, accouring to Jesus.

 “Karen said, `We’re not inducing labor, that’s an abortion.”

Apparently the concept of “inalienable rights” doesn’t exist for you Statists on the left, does it?  Those rights articulated in the Bill of Rights are more like suggestions and accommodations that the govt, in its kindness, allows us to enjoy.   You must have loved the Soviet Union.

Which universe do u live in? Either you are ignorant or just being dishonest. Those are undeniable facts he just stated. 

That Nobel Peace Price was a joke, and most all know it.  If his healthcare passes it will cost trillions, too bad he saved GM, they should save themselves.  Bush is the one who did the work in getting bin Laden (and our military of which my father was, and Obama doesn’t care for too much…)
We may be sorry we got out of Iraq soon, and watch out for Iran. 

Where exactly are you finding women’s “right”  to have the government direct private entities to subsidize her sexual lifestyle in the constitution.

Wherever this newfound ”right” is, I will also find the right for the government to pay for my oilchange…

see?

 Yes. When a man ejaculates, the life giving seed spews forth. If you
keep this seed from following its natural course (by blocking it,
spilling it, or chemically destroying it) you violate the natural use of
sex. Pulling out is equivalent to using a condom.

  Thou shalt not spill my seed into thy sock, and cram it to the bottom of the laundry hamper.

Family Guy: Boys Do Cry – Season 5, Episode 15

You don’t have the choice over where your tax dollars go.  You live in a representative democracy. 

Neither do I. Even though I don’t agree with everything my government does, I still have to pay my taxes.  So do you.

Perhaps you should grow up a little and accept that fact.

And your tax dollars don’t pay for abortions anyway.

Other than that, Hout, how did you like the play?  As was asked Mrs. Lincoln.

 You would vote for a Republican Muslim if he represented conservative values, Yes?

Staying on the “debate,” I don’t see much difference between real conservatives and fundie muslims when they talk about and treat women.

In other words you have no answer whatsoever to his very simple and straightforward question.

Why…because you know what the answer is, and that answer makes your whole argument look as stupid as it actually is….

Because I am sure you require the same from your friends on the right, and your Google is blocked there in China

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xkfmSQK_OO4

Great….here comes the predictable non-answers from EX-GOPman, accompanied by the predictable attempts at ridicule in place actual answers…

“RoPaul’s a cranky old gold bug who hates civil rights for anyone.”

There is a lot of stupid crap being said in here but this takes the cake.

Women can control their reproduction and body.  They had better be careful what goes in their vagina as some things cause deadly diseases, and some things have to be dug out at the hospitals, I know, my family is in medicine, and have told me about such.  And, the other end, also, which is frequently violated these “modern,” times.  Yes, anal sex.  Sex is becomming a recreation instead of creation…WRECK CREATION.    

On this we can agree.
It is such a hypocritical stance, not just from the right, but from the Catholic church. Pay for the boner, but let the woman worry about the baby.

 We will see wont we.The Republican/Tea Party Menfolk want to look into everyone’s bedroom.  Since we all know the Republican/Tea Party will lose, on trying to take women’s rights away alone, it is easy for you to try to put in your two cents.

No, my daughter didn’t teach you, she musta’ taught you, when you spell “care” as “car,” but I don’t mind typos, unlike some others. Your logic is very bad. Read Thomas Acquinas, that is if you can read.

Anti-whites pretend to have problems with identifying who is White and
who is not when people who want to preserve the White race confront
them. But at the same time they have no problems identifying who is
White when they talk about slavery, the Holocaust, discrimination,
r-word, and so on.

Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White.

One might suspect that the unsupported illegitimate children would be condemned to long-term poverty.  

Of course, that’s alright with you.  If they were smart and hard-working, they would have figured out some way to not be born illegitimately.

That’s the conservative way, make the innocent suffer for their crimes .

She’s a bottom feeder who got pregnant via deviant sexual behavior, according to cacacon.  You know, the kind of deviant sexual behavior which results in pregnancy.

Bush did the work but got no end results. At one point he is quoted as saying bin Laden does not even concern him. Obama is the one who gave the orders to go into Pakistan and take bin Laden out. In 2 years, he achieved more in the “war on terror” than Bush did in 8 years.

 No, that’s NOT what he said, which means YOU entered race into this.

 Did you just write “not”? That was really funny in 1992.

 Jeffy,

Didn’t you claim Rudy and I were the same person?

Anywho.

Do you remember what I did to Phallu-Cee?

Rudy and Phallu-Cee and YOU ARE NOT on the same level.
You, Jeffy, Norbie and Phallu-Cee are an embarrassment.

From that perspective you could claim that Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, Teddy, Wilson, FDR, JFK, Reagan, Clinton, and Bush were all failures.

Someone asked texasjo if she would like for all women to have choices about abortions, and I would like to add I try to be a small voice for the voiceless in the womb.  They have rights, too, ya know…but, they are being taken away. 

Republicans have alienated them far worse. The president said this once 4 years ago while the Republicans say this every chance they could get.

Blah, blah, blah, divisive RNC talking points, blah blah blah…..yawn

To the extent that it’s “morphed,” it’s been due to the zealous efforts of the media to turn it into a contraception issue rather than a religious rights issue, since the latter is a loser for Obama. 

Yes, but so do the Republicans. It’s not always about Obama.

You have demonstrated why men should not be deciding health issues for women without the feedback of women. Women aren’t cars. They are human beings. The very fact you think this is a joke is why this hearing took place.

The Anti-whites want to ELIMINATE white people`s bodies globally:

 Africa for the Africans,Asia for the Asians,white countries for EVERYBODY!

Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.

The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.

Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.

What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?

How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?

And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?

But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.

Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

LMAO!

Are you actually so ignorant as to think that sex as recreation is a new phenomenon?  Please, could you tell me what the “oldest profession in the world” is, and what it entailed?

Do you know what a Roman Orgy is?  And how many children were produced by the Sacred Band of Spartans when they were off with their boyfriends.

Perhaps you can explain the rumors about Catherine the Great.

How did John Keats get syphilis?

It’s amazing how liberal old school Republicans like Gergen sound, compared to their present day counterparts.

Yeah, and why do I have to pay for lifeguards at beaches and pools?  I swim fine.  The rest of the people at the beach should learn to save themselves.  Damned lazy libs, expecting the government of haul their drowning selves out of the ocean!  Who cares if they’re only kids sometimes, or elderly.  You’ve got to break a few eggs to make an omelet.  You’ve got to let a few hundred thousand kids starve to teach people to have sex only when Republicans approve.

Well, sex is pretty fun; thats why people enjoy doing it so much.  You oughta try it sometime

if they insist that men have the right to have a hard-on, by paying for that drug, then women have the right to prevent pregnancy. Cause,you know they think homosexuality is wrong. And if they think men should not have sex with other men, who the hell are they gonna have sex with?

Yea I’ve learned the easiest way to judge how Christian someone is how loudly they keep trying to tell you are one.

And what is government but a collection of free individuals representing other free individuals.  Jesus didn’t expressly charge the government with that duty but he never forbade the government from discharging it.  Christ’s message is simple human decency and compassion towards every human being, and our government guarantees our rights as human beings.  The two go hand in hand, and the golden rule is a morality that all Americans share regardless of their creed, its not unique to Christianity.  

This is tiresome. Jesus said give up every material thing and follow me. If you insist we should help the rich and ignore the poor, you are not a Christian (meaning a follower of Jesus’s teachings). Protecting material things at any cost is the opposite of christ’s message.

To make it easy for you, since you are obssessed with government, if you are willing to pay more tax to pay for medicaid, say, and I oppose it, you are, in substance, a follower of christ’s teaching and I would be the opposite. I certainly would be obscene to say I am more of a Christian than you are. That is exactly what the right wing nuts say.

He said on more than one occasion to feed and clothe the poor and hungry, and he also expressly said to pay the government the taxes it was due, and even hung out with tax collectors.  Where did he say that government couldn’t do any of those things?  Keep in mind government as Christ knew it was autocratic, how do you know that He would disapprove of the system we have today that ensures everyone’s right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness unless its at the expense of another?

And, what was the outcome of this reckless recreational sex?  Yes, I know history.  Also, I was invited to an orgy called the Frog Club of elites in New Mexico, but I declined…you simply get in a circle and bunch up like frogs and do what you want with whom you wish, on beautiful boats, or foreign destinatios, they were just meeting in NM for the weekend..  I’ve known nuns and prostitutes, strippers, and night club owners.  I was a night club owner to tell the truth and we knew Jack Ruby.  We will be punished soon in this world if we don’t straighten up.  I’ve done many wrongs and found out what was right the difficult way…
Hasta la Vista….

Shhhh, the native Indians may say ‘America for native Americans’. You write a million words and miss a basic pitfall. 

You would do better to sign up for a spelling course first. 

Here’s the point you’re missing, though: there are many, many instances in this country when individuals can be responsible and hard-working–in fact, more hard-working than some who are wealthier–and yet still fall through the cracks. For individuals who have never witnessed that first-hand because of their life experience (never truly struggled, never lived in a depressed economy, etc), it may be hard to understand that. You think that everyone who tries will do well, and that welfare is mostly used by lazy do-nothings, when the reality is different. 

The safety nets are intended to help the neediest not because the government wants your dime but because helping the poorest (however imperfectly) helps keep our society at large functioning. 

 He/she cannot answer your question; all he/she can do is sling mud. Besides, anyone defending Bush is delusional anyway. Even the current GOP candidates won’t dare utter “Bush”.

Have had three husbands and the last one was a womanizer, who died early after he took my money, went off with another woman (he had too many of them). My first sexual experience that was nice was a kiss. My worst first sexual experience was a rape. I’ve had a good love life, but made some mistakes. I’m just trying to be the “voice in the wilderness.” and I’m not saying “repent,” but I’m saying too much of anything is gluttony and there are consequences. The Roman leaders showed us how to do what we want, when we want, and to excess, and looked what happened to all of them.

This is all fun and games. One suggestion: those of you who wirte long comment better realize they are not going to be read. Since no one thinks you are an expert, make it nice and short so we can read the nonesense you write. Thanks.

haha. Contraceptions don’t reduce pregnancy? Sure, food doesn’t stop hunger. 

You obviously didn’t read this article or listen to Gergen’s own words.

Nobody is talking about sending millions of non-Japanese into Japan and excusing it with the idea that the Japanese aren’t Ainu. Nobody is sending tens of millions of non-Africans into Africa and excusing it with the notion that the Africans aren’t Pygmies. Only White countries are being inundated and attacked with tens of millions of non-Whites. Only White countries are being made unliveable with an invasion of non-White people. When White people observe these things, the word “racist” is trotted out. Anti-racist is code for Anti-White.

Religion controls nothing?

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Great Question.  The Universe that I live in is the same universe where the unwed birth rate went from 5% to 40% since the advent of the pill.

Do you have any logical errors you want to apply to that.

Then afterwards we can then apply logic to the massive increase in the propogation of STDs inline with the arrival of the pill as well. 

Am I advocating the pill be abolished?…no, but only suckers believe that it has help our holistic health as a nation or that it has helped reduce unplanned pregnancies.

Interracial dating on ” BlackWhiteFriends,(0M ” is easy to begin with,with free profile placement to get you attracted with meeting and coming across profiles of interracial people .There are hundreds and thousands of members choosing us to forge potential bonds.fdsfsdfds

You have demonstrated why Liberals cannot disassociate distaste for government blatantly overstepping its boundries versus an a percieved attack on women.

Liberal logic goes like this:

What?!!!  You disagree with the government forcing everyone to subsadize birthcontrol through a private entity because you say they dont have the authority to do it?

YOU HATE WOMEN

Face it, you are exactly the type of sucker the the DNC wants.  They overtly overstep their bounds constitutionaly, but do it in a way that it can be percieved as an attack against a group if you disagree with the power grab.

Then, they rely on idiots like you to propogate the divisive narrative that people are being “oppressed”

I noticed that anybody who supports abortion, never had one done to them

Great…then I dont want to hear a peep out of you about Iraq, corperate subsidies, defense spending, or any other liberal point of complaint regarding federal spending ever again…..

since ya know…we dont have a choice and stuff…

And there was the silly logic/justification I was refering to…

No kidding….how so..can you name the parts of the constitution they overtly violated during their tenures?

also..I dont think I said “failure” anywhere since that is such a subjective term.

To those that want live on the dole and sacrifice choice for comfort….Obama is a huge success

Those with a more indepenant streak think otherwise..

The thing is, Turks did bad things to Anatolian Greeks to get what’s
now Turkey, and Japanese did bad things to the Ainu to get what’s now
Japan. No one says Turks or Japanese, or any non-White doesn’t deserve a
country for past bad acts. Whites are called “raaacisss” for past bad
acts and told they don’t deserve a country. 
Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White.

Gergen’s analysis was off the mark.  What happened was Mitt Romney Seamus’d Santorum

The hyperbole and lies on both sides are so sad.  The issue is the First Amendment. 

Castrated Republican males – No women on the contraception panel.  http://www.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1023937!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_370/image.jpg

No it isn’t, unless you’re in the wrong thread.

More like three white guys as they continue to ignore Ron Paul.

the contraception contortion is really about the first amendment. both sides have corrupted the issue for their purposes. Few are honest about the real issue. the white guys comment came from that recent topic. I am in the right thread.

 Did he say, “it is better to have 1 black man control your lives than 4 white men any day”? No. Please don’t make things up.

Not you’re getting angry. This is typical conservative dialogue.

1) say something wrong and offensive acting like its the truth.

2) get called on your wrong & offensive remark and resort to personal insults out of personal frustrations & insecurities.

It’s a tired routine. Find something new please.

Okay, keep bashing women, minorities, the poor, and the middle class. See how far it gets you.

Does Warren Buffet live on the dole? Does Bill Gates live on the dole? For someone with an “independent streak” almost all of your talking points are based on ignorant generalizations perpetuated by the RNC.

Nancy Pelosi reminds me of a personage from the bible she was referred to as the Whore of Babylon also known as
 Babylon the Great, the Mother of Prostitutes and Abominations of the Earth.”

As opposed to what: 4 black pimps controlling women. What’s the point? I don’t think they’re being white on purpose.

So boyz are now demanding that other boyz control their mothers..  Funny! 

Are you trying to say that you will pay money for some sex talk?

How about some diversity?

David knows that he can say whatever he wants about evil white men but dare he say anything about women or minorities i.e. the people who have been victimized for thousands of years then he will be fired and never get a job again.  Sadly, he is just another guilt ridden liberal.

No anger here dude..just entertainment….still waiting for you to come up with anything of substance or based in fact…thats all…

Wow…great analogy…..

Knowing her, she’ll spin it to say “See!  Im just like a character in the Bible!…therefore I can speak on behalf of catholics when I say we are for BC!

“but dare he say anything about women or minorities”

Here’s your big chance….why don’t you say it for him

blah, blah, blah, silly liberal talking points, blah blah blah…

nice dodge…do you plan on addressing my challenge to you that you cannot substatiate anything you have said in previous posts, or…..

 are you just gonna blather on about a new talking point…..that talking point being about a rich liberal  1%er who wants to the rich to pay more taxes, but owes 1 billion in back taxes himself……

You guys are so easy…..

blah, blah, blah, silly conservative talking points, blah blah blah…

Refute anything I’ve said instead of simply joining in the idiotic refrane of the liberal peanut gallery….

Right, fact & substance, like comparing women to cars & birth control to oil changes?

Right, fact & substance, like comparing women to cars & birth control to oil changes?

Actions not words….liberals say it everyday….I’ll provide you examples to substantiate his point, but you already know them….you just choose to ignore them since your political lombotomy two years ago

Warren Buffet doesn’t owe taxes. Berkshire Hathaway owes taxes. If we go by this warped logic, Romney should be held accountable for all the bankruptcies filed by Bain Capital & its subsidiaries.

You cannot see the point made because your puppet masters will not allow you to understand what is going on…

But here goes anyway.  Whatever authority exists in the constitution that allows the federal govornment to dictate to private business what they must provide in their health insurance, is the same authority I want to use to get my car insurance company to provide me free oil changes! 

Take all your silly emotion, talking points, and divisive rheotric (YOU HATE WOMEN!:P)out of the equation and see it for what it is……

Then tell me

Your posts are improving using your last as a gauge….why don’t you just open and close with “blah” in all future comments since that is about the extent of the content you provide.

According to your puppet masters…he should be held accountable, forgetting the fact that every one of those compaines was already well on the way to bankruptcy, and 60% of them recovered after Bain capital’s involvment…..but we digress…

Anyway, according to you….Buffet has no responsibility whatsoever for his own company’s inability to pay taxes?  Is that what your telling me?

It’s called the commerce clause. I suggest you write a letter to your congressman or congresswoman about it.

I’ll try to compare human beings to inanimate objects if that will make things easier for you to understand from now on.

How many bankruptcies could most Americans get away with? Last I checked, filing for bankruptcy puts people in financial ruin & forces tax payers to pay the bill for the company’s mistakes. Bain under Romney did this 25% of the time & profited billions from it. Sorry, but exploiting outdated bankruptcy laws to make a profit doesn’t exactly speak for Romney’s credentials as a job creator. More like someone who exploited the system at a very easy time for businesses.

The commerce clause huh?  IS this the same clause that 26 states are taking the Feds to the supreme court on because the Federal government is improperly using it to unilaterally force private business to do whatever the government wants?  IS that the clause your reffering to?  

I hate genocidal dictators alot too…how bout you?

Tell him to head down to OWS….he’ll get it for free…

You’ll never see the point….ever….

Your programmed to see the world as the DNC tells you to see it, and don’t even realize that this precedent of Federal power will impact things in your life much more important than something as stupid as birthcontrol….

And you are advocating  the powergrab because you cant seperate the power grab from the birth control aspect in order to see it for what it really is….

Barry Hussein is an epic failure.  You want another one?  Nancy Pelosi is the most despicable and mean spirited person ever to be Speaker of the House.  Are those 2 ok for you?  You want some more. Al Sharpton is a vile racist and anti-semite.  And another for you, Dummy Wasserman Schultz is the most uningelligent person ever to be elected congresman.  Is that enough for you or should I continue?

Again..you omissions are obvious….bain capital has been beat to death, and from your comments, its clear you dont understand the issue….suprise.

So, with that in mind are you going to answer my question about buffet, or are we going to move onto your next liberal narrative, that one being how the GOP hates kittens and eats them for breakfast…

Blah blah blah, Republican talking points, blah blah blah

No, that’s the “I watch too much Fox News to know what’s in the constitution” clause.

No kidding?…so there are not 26 states that are taking the federal government to the SCOTUS on claims of the fed abuse of the commerce clause?

This is all just a big lie from Faux News?

much better, you sound much less stupid when your post looks like that…

Racism has oozed from of the pores of Godless democrats for just shy of a quarter of a millineum.  They see it, they live it, they worship it, they project it, they protect it, they need it, they rely on it, they feed on it, they breed it, they trust it, they fellate it, they play it, they subscribe to it, they justify it, they deny it.

So you’re denying that Article 1, section 8, clause 3 does not exist? Are you saying that congress does not have the power to regulate congress?

That’s because it’s all you are capable of understanding.

Article 1 Section 8 Clause three does exist and has been violated by the federal government as evidence by 26 states taking the federal government to court. 

And the quicker you understand the difference between “regulating” and “dictating” the quikcer you will understand why 26 states are taking ti to court..

says the guy who calls himself a colbert conservative..

Sas the lady who says she loves liberals.

How was it violated? Weren’t the PPACA & HCERA approved by congress? Doesn’t Article 1, Section 8, Clause 3 state that congress has the power to regulate interstate commerce? Don’t these companies take part in interstate commerce? What is the legal violation?

I do..where else can I observe stupidity in its natural habitat if liberals didn’t exist…

That’s ok…you’ve done enough….besides it’s easy to call people names when you hide your identity behind a fake screen name.

Forcing a company to provide birth control is “regulating commerce”?  Right. 

By that ridiculouse logic, we can also force companies to provide free guns to all employees who want them by government mandate becasue that right is stipulated in the 2nd ammendment….  

Ya know…we would just be “regulating commerce” by doing that

 So what about companies that exist only operate and exist in one state?

 
Ok you Republican/Tea party folks I asked this question of you 7
hours ago and still have not gotten an answer,here it comes for the 5th
time today please answer if you can:

Just what are the ideas the Republican/Tea Party have put forth besides
hating homosexuals and women? What wonderful plans do they have to help
continue to dig Americans out of the horrible mess the Eight years
of Bush/Cheney left us?

You just eviscerated that poor flag burning fool … Outstanding!

Hey I’m on your side ideologically….but it’s lame as hell to have been monitoring this site for 7 hours hoping someone takes your bait. 7 hours and 5 attempts? Good grief! Again, I’m with you on the issues but good god get a life! No one wants to play. 

Healthcare is an urgent issue & birth control is an important issue that concerns the vast majority of the women for health reasons. Not quite the same as cars & guns. Once again, women are not inanimate objects. Try comparing them to human beings because that’s what they are, as hard as it may be for you to accept.

Try going outside once in a while?

The only reason any of us are having a discussion about the white men
running for office is they all seem to be having a problem with a black
man in office.They all seem to be so scared that a ,omg,just
imagine,black man could hold such a high office as President of the
United states. They are also crumbling and taking all the Republican/Tea
Party with them. It actually is embarrassing for all Americans to have
such people representing what the Republican/tea party has put forth to
try to lead our country.

OMG! You honestly think I sat here and monitored this site all day,ahhah to funny.Now listen, I was on this morning to see what reaction last nights debate was.I put this question out there.I came back on when I made my 4th post this evening to see if any answers were given.lolol and so far I have gotten one.To repeal Obama care. I personally would like a real answer from any of them. I know some are paid to be here all day,I for one am not one of them.

Good for her.

Sure you can. Move to Somalia.

How would you know that?

Birth control is an urgent issue?  since when?

It was provided free through planned parenthood and for the non-parasite folks, they could buy it for about 30 to forty dollars a month….

So try again…and I want my free gun…its my right…

Give him a break.  He has written previously that he has no job and lives off of food stamps.  So what if he spends all day every day on websites posting nonsense. Have some compassion for him.

I heart liberals….post hoc fallacy. Sequence of events does not infer causation. There are other factors that may have led to increase in unwed mom birthrates……like people deciding to have kids before getting married. Also…you do know that married couples also use bc right? Only looking at pregnancies by unwed moms does not tell us anything about the efficacy of bc. Unwed moms are more likely to be in poverty, and thus, either be less educated about and/or not have the ability to pay for said contraceptives. Quite ignorant to undermine the fact that contraceptives reduce incidence of stds and unwanted pregnancies.

@Verreauxii 

The pill does not prevent the propogation of STDS.

And the pill brought in the lifestyle of casual unwed sex and a false sense of security when having sex, that increased the subsequent unwed pregnancies.

Your claim that that more people are choosing to have kids as single parent is ignorant.  The number whom this applies to is miniscule.

And if this is not the case, then how do you explain the massive increase since 1960?

And the thought that just more people want to have kids out of wedlock aint gonna cut it.

Good job comparing women’s bodies to inanimate objects once again.

“You would do better to sign up for a spelling course first”

Is that little sentence designed to put me on the defensive, or just your little attempt at making yourself look intelligent. In either case, it’s not working! I read your remarks and they are just as consistently stupid as others you have posted.
Fallen through the cracks? It’s everyone else’s responsibility to make them right?! How pathetically stupid is that!! If that’s your goal, do it through organizations that take contributions. Don’t do it by sticking your hand in my wallet and forcing me to pay.
You want to live a Socialist country, move!!

That has got to be one of the most corrupt remarks I’ve heard on this subject. You start by pre-supposing my opinion on this subject, and then you give some laughable absurd trash about “figuring out a way not to be born”. Just how emotional disturbed are you?!! And then you close by saying “that’s the Conservative way”? Hell, you haven’t got a clue about what your talking about, so you blame your lack of intelligent insight on a political leaning? I’d suggest growing up but, hell what’s the use!

I guess you don’t know what you post, which is understandable, since you spend all day doing it.

Here’s one thing you wrote recently: “Everyone I know who lives below the poverty line is their because of
self inflicted circumstances…poor choices, irresposnibility, apathy,”

Does that include poor children?  What poor choices did poor children make?  Looks like being born poor is the only one available.  If only they could have been smart enough to have been born rich!

So, you blame poor children for their own poverty, and you call me corrupt!  Your lack of intelligent insight must be due to your political leaning.  I’d suggest growing up and grabbing a clue, but, hell, what’s the use? 

You’re misunderstanding the situation. These safety nets have been implemented for decades after voters approved them. It’s a democracy here, so the will of the majority of voters is imposed upon the will of the minority of voters. You are in the minority. If you don’t like this “Socialist country” that’s had these types of programs for nearly 100 years, it’s you who should move. 

Bottom line is if you think those programs constitute “Socialism” then America has been a Socialist country since well before the days of Stalin, Kruschev, Mao, Pol Pot, etc. Just because some hardcore right-wingers don’t like Social Security, welfare and Medicaid doesn’t mean they can decide how things work for the majority of voters. 

Whine about it all you want. Just don’t pretend like it’s the rest of us who have to bend to your will. 

Here’s where you do not understand.
 
You two have shifted back 3 different arguments and substituted them

1.If a woman has a “right” to birth control (An inanimate object, mind you), you’re stipulating something completely different than BANNING birth control; which can only be done by the government. What you’re saying is; Someone should chemically derive a little pill and make it readily available for you at no cost. If you believe that, that’s quite asinine. 
 
2. DICTATING can only be done through GOVERNMENT ACTION. So who is proposing the ban on Birth control? Santorum? Sure; than he’s a bigot. Putting Ron Paul in the same category, the guy who wants NO dictation of ANY personal behavior, is a contradiction.
 
3. The Constitutional argument: You cite the ENUMERATED powers delegated by article I, section 8. “Regulate Commerce”. Regulate; as explicitly mentioned in the federalist papers; held the common definition “TO MAKE REGULAR”. So between the states the federal government could ensure states did not discriminate against among their colleagues.

What world are you living in?

Thanks for validating my initial remarks. You validated every point I made. A nation of sheep herded toward their own demise, and you whole-heartedly support that crap!
I have every right to “whine” when it’s my tax-dollars being forcibly taken to support bottom-feeding parasites. You can live in your little Liberal leeching world until it all comes crashing down around your ears, and then, just like the narrow minded fool you are, you’ll be the first asking “WHAT HAPPENED?!!

I really like the way to tried to skirt the core issue by introducing circumstances not mentioned of eluded to. Good try but, really stupid!
The next time you try using that pathetic argument…..DON’T!

I really like the way you purposely skirted the core issue by citing circumstances not mentioned or eluded to. Good try but, REALLY STUPID!!

 TL;DR

David Gergen Slip is showing
 
David Gergen Slip is showing

CNN commentator, David Gergen pretends to be an expert on everything from prostitution to life on Mars. His posture as an objective commentator has blown long ago. He’s just another angry closet republican who cannot come to terms with Obama being president. Just like Ed Henry, the charade is over and David should end his deception and cross over to Fox News where he would be more comfortable and free of deception. If you feel strongly about this; let me know at kr0636@shaw.ca.
Cephas Keith Reyes, PhD.