That was awesome Newt. Called them out, deservedly so.

Harris is an embarrassment. A liberal hack

He’s fired up. And he tells it like it is

If only Newt could win, he’s hitting it out of the park.

Sigh…

Couldn’t agree more! I love Newt!

Go, Newt. Slap those dorky moderators down & keep ‘em in their place. They aren’t there to debate, just to keep time.

Last time ,the Dems refused to go on Fox .

The Republicans were willing to go in and deal with the sons of bitches on MSNBC .

All the candidates on the stage clearly have as an objective tonight to take Rick Perry down a notch, but somehow John Martin  is the one responsible “trying to get Republicans to fight with each other”.

Same old dishonest tune being sung.

All the candidates on the stage clearly have as an objective tonight to take Rick Perry down a notch, but somehow John Martin  is the one responsible “trying to get Republicans to fight with each other”.

Same old dishonest tune being sung.

Bowing Brian asking republicans questions is quite humorous; he is trying to be the star of th enight; every question has a lead in position of his own prefacing his question.  What an arrogant limosine liberal he is.  I bet he didn’t bow to these candidates, now did he?

If it begins with a who, what, why, when, where, or how, it isn’t fair.

Um isn’t this the POINT of a debate??  Its not much of a debate if they just give campaign slogans then call it a night.  They ALL can’t get the nomination.  This is the game, this is how its played, its been played since the beginning of this republic. 

By the way, is it ok for the dems to in fight?  Wasn’t there a large push by republicans to vote in dem primaries to cause THE EXACT SAME THING as Newt is now railing against?  Operation chaos I think? (Project Mayhem was trademarked)  Oh wait.. its ok if its not your side. 

We need third parties…

when republicans look to the future, they see newt

Newt who polling at .01% would rather call Obama’s healthcare plan bad and scream about how he thinks the media is trying to pick a fight rather than answer how he would help 48 million americans without health insurance actually get health insurance. Maybe we can all get revolving charge accounts at health insurance companies. 

That’s just Noot’s schtick.  That’s the only way he’ll get an article on Mediaite without spending a million dollars on jewelry for his 4th and 5th wives.

lol you are an idiot…anyone who doesn’t suck up to the candidates are liberal hacks right?
get out of your Fake news bubble…

I’m sure the regular BSNBC watchers (all 12 of them) were having a meltdown during the Ronald & Nancy Reagan tribute. 

I guess when you’re polling at 2% and your bankrupt with no staff you have to try to get attention anyway you can.  

Unless he doesn’t suck up to Obama.  Then he’s a racist.

I know I will get flamed for this, but Reagan was a big talking point tonight.  I know its from think progress and I would be the first to point that out…

BUT…

Please “refudiate” these points…

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/02/05/142288/reagan-centennial/

Repulician rhedoric with extreme hostility toward Obama. Anyone surpised? besides the GOP is feeding on itself.

Hysterical!

SEIU/COPE just had an advertisement on during the break from the debates! It was a riot! Just who I’d look to for JOBS, SEIU!

No, because we know the facts:

1. Reagan gave amnesty to 3 million undocumented immigrants.
2.  Reagan nearly tripled the federal budget deficit.
3. Reagan vetoed a comprehensive anti-Apartheid act
4. Reagan “raised taxes in seven of his eight years in office,” including four times in just two years.

I think this is getting old as a strategy. Everyone else gave an answer of if they agree with individual nmandate or not, but he attacks the modertaor, again. I learned more about Santorum and Cain tonight simply because they answered questions clearly than Newt!

Uh oh don’t make Newt angry. He’ll cut you off his Tiffany Christmas list and then go have another affair just to get back at you. 

Why? Reagan would be a liberal today compared with these candidates. Nancy is for stem cell research and Reagans own kids are Liberals.

“Newt Gingrich Again Scolds Debate Moderator Over Choice of Question”

That’s because that’s all he’s got left.  Much like Palin.  Exit stage right, please.

Sad part of this is if Gingrich didn’t have so much lousy baggage he would absolutely wipe the floor with Obama in a one on one debate. As far as him being on the bottom of the ticket I’d take him over the human gaffe machine Biden in a second.

NEWTS DONE..with Cain to follow

Cain and Huntsman did the best. Gotta love Newt, but he has too much baggage. Perry looks like Warren Beatty

I can’t believe anyone was stupid enough to say something like that when there has never been a candidate that was treated with such tenderness and kiddy gloves like our incompetent community organizer until now……congrats!!!!

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Huntsman seems too oily to me.

Newt is the smartest guy in the room and has an extraordinary command of the facts. I wish I thought he could become president. I LOVED his answer on Bernacke.

Thanks for proving my point…you’re still melting down.

A lot of it was a joke. The moderators sucked. They wanted a two man race. Pretty poor. The questioning was crap. Newt was right and we  got what we expected from this crowd. That jackass with his immigration questions was most annoying. Typical La raza radical. Huntsman, Romney, and Perry reminded me of Tim Pawlenty.  Tim bailed and went right to msnbc. They’re figgin rinos. Even Newt.

Did the crowd just applaud executions? 

You know back in the dark ages, they had public executions.  The crowd would gather around and cheer.  They would consider it an honor if they were sprayed with blood.  The Romans (who excelled at executions) CREATED CRUCIFIXION for the sole purpose of having people displayed and mocked.  The Tower of London, up until the 1700′s would display the heads of enemies of the state. Iran, Syria, and Saudi Arabia still have public stoning and executions.

Do we really want to emulate those???

There is more truth in this than fiction…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIaORknS1Dk

Ron Paul’s answer on “free stuff” was great!

what did he/she post that was wrong?

I’d like to see this field cut down so that each candidate could have more time. 

Yeah, this isn’t a GOP town hall. The definition of debate is to “fight it out”, so to speak. If they all agreed on everything and praised each other and gave the same talking points, what the hell would be the point of the debate?

I thought Jon Huntsman did good. Too bad he’s not going to get the nomination. Instead, a far-right winger like Perry will and then he’ll win the election. That’s right. I’m going to stick my nose out and declare Rick Perry the next President. I’m that pessimistic.

God help us all.

BS. Reagan was famous for saying “It isn’t that Liberals are ignorant, it’s that they know so much that isn’t so.” Does that sound like a Lib to you? Being for stem cell research doesn’t make you a Liberal. I’m a conservative/libertarian and I’m for stem cell research.
Has anyone told you lately that you suck at commenting?

BS. Reagan was famous for saying “It isn’t that Liberals are ignorant, it’s that they know so much that isn’t so.” Does that sound like a Lib to you? Being for stem cell research doesn’t make you a Liberal. I’m a conservative/libertarian and I’m for stem cell research.
Has anyone told you lately that you suck at commenting?

Michelle Bachman actually answered a question regarding if she was quoted correctly when she said we should drill in the florida everglades by talking about President Obama’s speech about jobs scheduled for tomorrow night. THIS is what’s wrong with politicians today. 

Michelle Bachman actually answered a question regarding if she was quoted correctly when she said we should drill in the florida everglades by talking about President Obama’s speech about jobs scheduled for tomorrow night. THIS is what’s wrong with politicians today. 

remember 1996 or 2004?  Perry is the new Howard Dean

Man!!!  I hope Perry can get the nomination!!! Social Security a Ponzi scheme? That’s a definite winner in Florida!!!
Hopefully you TeaBagger Cult members can get him the nomination!!!

The TeaBagger Cult Nation is going to go down in flames!!!

so far, no one is taking the bait

Perry Perry Perry Perry 2012… the true leader of the Republican party. Get him the nomination.

funny because none of your leading candidates are for stem cell research. And if they are they are just going with the flow. Because Bush was dead wrong on that issue.  And because Reagan had a clever comment on what a liberal is doesn’t make him a conservative. He was more liberal on most issues than any of these guys with maybe the exception of Huntsman.

Listen idiot, you are for what is in it for you. You could care less about anyone but you. YOu are self-centered egotist. So here is my little “prayer” for you. For this will help you see in the long run that what you so mightly believe in is full of sh*&. I hope you house is taken from you for not being able to pay your wife’s hospital bills. I hope your children can’t get insurance because of a preexisting condition. I hope you are without a job and they stop giving out unemployment. I hope you are driving down a road and your car hits a pot hole and you bust an axle. I hope they abolish the EPA and someone poisons your water. I hope you get to retirement age and they take your social security away. No buddy what you are is a free loader. You want a great country but you are not willing to pay for it.

Having watched the debate, it reminded me of this movie scene…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc7HmhrgTuQ&feature=fvwrel

Last troll for the night.

 I know you may call me dumb conservatives. But do any of you really understand these health care ideas any of these guys came up with? No wonder we have so many uninsured when citizens on both the left and right. Talk healthcare my eyes and I suspect the most americans eyes gloss over and close in pain. One thing I did like and I cant stand Bachman but at least she was realistic. All this executive order stuff regarding Obamas healthcare law cant just be wiped out with a swipe of a pen. If they really want to do it they are gonna have a long hard messy slog through a congress and a bureaucracy that is gearing up to pass these regulations and laws. In my view it aint gonna happen.

I think she said Obamacare 12 times when answering every question even if it didn’t have any thing to do with healthcare.

Why was Newt at the debate?

Sorry, just wanted to chime in on “BSNBC.” Ugh. Really now? Everytime I read “Faux News” or “BSNBC” or any other derivation of such names, I immediately dimiss the point the person is trying to make.

Wow, you really hate me don’t you? I still love you though.
To answer your wishes of all that bad luck- I am self-sufficient
1. We have great insurance that I pay for personally, won’t lose the house
2. Both kids have stable jobs with insurance, no preexisting conditions
3. I’m self-employed and could not get unemployment even if I wanted to.
4. I’m a very careful driver.
5. I have a well so my water won’t get “poisoned by someone.” They wouldn’t get past the dogs and would not be able to dodge the bullets.
6. I have my own retirement set up, won’t need SS.

Me a freeloader? We can both just make up numbers here, I’ll bet I pay more in taxes yearly than you make. I pay for numerous freeloaders, I’m sure you are one. A simple thank you would be nice. You are welcome.

Let’s not forget that as of now the individual mandate has been ruled unconstitutional..  It is likely that the Supreme Court will uphold that ruling as it is still considered to lean to the right…  if only just a little.

Rick Perry looks likes a used car salesmen, or the salesmen character on the the television sitcom WKRP in Cincinnati.

translation:  ”answering that question would make republicans look bad”

and you tell that to kids these days and they just don’t believe you

so does that mean I no longer have to have car insurance?

the reason newt “called them out” is because he couldn’t answer the question

romney was able to insure more in his state and lower costs

as opposed to what every republican wants to do:  nothing

Well I think you are thinking in what you consider a logical way. But the supreme court is subject to outside pressure as much as politicians are. When parents start calling in to washington and complaining that they cant keep little johnny on their healthcare plans till they are 26 or whatever it is anymore, the politicians will cave. These guys aren’t gonna overturn Obamcare, the same way Obama wasn’t going to close down Gitmo. Once a government program gets put in place it doesn’t go anywhere.

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Perry is talking…Squirrel!  Romney is talking…Squirrel!.

Republicans tend to get indignant when reporters, interviewers, and debate moderators refuse to only ask the questions that the politicians want them to ask.

I don’t hate you dude, I hate what you believe. I hate who you vote into office and policies they espouse. I’d be happy to compare tax returns with you any day. Been running my own multi-million dollar company fro 10 years so don’t pull that crap with me. I’m sure you are fine. I was wishing those things  would happen to you becasue until they do and you are put into that position you will never know the inherint problems real people have. You and I are the lucky ones. Why is the gap between rich and poor the highest it has ever been? Because of Republican economic policies. Liberals are people that want real answers to complex problems. We don’t want fairy tales. We know that the key to bringing this economy back is to invest inthe economy. If the corporations aren’t spending the money then tax the corporations and individuals and have the government spend it. Big government is good government every day of the week. Demand creates jobs. If there is no demand, there will be no jobs. If they cut my taxes I will put the money in my pocket until my product’s demand is so great that my current staff can’t handle it. EVERYONE IS THIS WAY. The threat of taxes as a deternet to job creation is the biggest republican lie of them all.

That’s a silly question…  You never had to have car insurance until you made the decision to buy your car

Agreed, with the grades he got in college he should be a used car salesman.

if you drive a car you do. At least in my state.

I thought it was good that Gingrich pointed that out, but I thought we were going to get something juicy when I read the headline.

If people don’t understand health care issues, best thing to do is to take the advice of a doctor. Out of all the people on the stage, guess who was the only doctor.

Howard Dean was far more intelligent than Rick Perry. If anything, Rick Perry is Will Ferrell doing an impersonation of George Bush.

yes but most state governments MANDATES that you have it. They are forcing me to buy something.

well, since he didn’t ask you to pay his Tiffany bill, why worry?
He married his “affair” as opposed to Clinton who ruined a young girls life, but that’s o.k. 

I enjoy Newt – one hell of a bright cookie.  

Only difference was Chris Wallace threw a dig at Gingrich versus John Harris who mumbled to the corner like the loser he is. Is it just me or are the moderators like umps and refs of nowadays, making themselves part of the game?

You don’t know what I believe or how I vote, so your hate is still wasted and empty.
I ONLY commented on my work and financial status because you INCORRECTLY called me a freeloader. Hoffa is already rubbing off on people.
So, the Reagan tribute tonight gave you a meltdown as well, I see. So much hate, so little time.

That wasn’t my point.  As much as the dem base wanted Dean to win the nomination, he was deemed unelectable in the general election.   Thus Kerry was nominated.  This will happen again.  The best thing to happen to Romney is the fact that Perry got in the race.

Take the sons of bitches out! hope that registers on your voltometer !

the republicans are for stem cell research doofus.  Please, if you are attempting to put down a party, get it right.  In fact, latest medical reports indicate that adult stem cell research gives better results than embryonic stem cell research.

See you learn something every day and now you can throw away that talking point card is it’s not true.

I don’t follow.

Darladoon, big difference between a question and a trap.

lol true. But that doctor has about as much of a chance at getting elected as Doctor Octopus. But good point never the less:)

Yes as in all states, but you had to make the decision to purchase your car or get your drivers license and in so doing accepted the responsibility of having to purchase auto insurance, not the same as healthcare. Time will tell what becomes of healthcare, but i disagree with what you are saying about the courts.  I see nothing in the constitution that provides for a personal mandate, not even the commerce clause.

You’re an idiot and hopefully the pot hole turns into a sink hole and you’re swimming in it.  Who the hell wants Ron Paul, besides you jerks.  

I hope you grow the hell up and realize that we are paying for it.  Someone points out the fact that if things don’t change there won’t be social security and you go bat shit instead of saying, yes things have to change.

Who the hell do you think is going to be paying medical for the 14 million illegals fool?  You think they are going to line and and pay?  We would still be paying for them and every other deadbeat that refuses to pay until they are in need.  So, suddenly they have a $10,000 bill and they haven’t put a cent in the kitty – guess what bright wonder, all our rates have to go up.  

You think all these freaking programs are gifts.  We pay through the nose for all of them.  Waste and fraud abound and the costs keep going up and you’re fine with that.  

Get a job and quit looking for someone else to cover your ass.  Cover it yourself.

And OBLAMO with his extreme hostility and lying rhetoric towards everyone else being the fault,but it’s Never him. He even blames his own party at times…TOO FUNNY!! OBLAMO is the worst and poorest excuse for a Leader, much less a “so-called” president, in all of American history.

GO NEWT!!  AWESOME!!

Wrong. If you haven’t been paying attention there’s a full court press on Clarence Thomas. 

it was a perfectly acceptable question

you just thought it was a trap because it made a republican look bad

no, in fact, it made ALL republicans look bad (except romney, of course)

Poor, Newt playing the victim yet again. Any question he can’t or doesn’t want to answer becomes an attack on the moderator.  Give it up Newt, it’s getting old.  The point of a debate is to battle it out with ideas instead of holding hands and saying we all want to beat the President, we already know that. 

 I think you are delusional dude. It wont be overturned but I guess we will see.

You can chose not to drive, it is kinda hard to chose not to breath. Besides the state mandate to purchase auto insurance is just that, a state mandate and states can empower themselves to do more constitutionally than can the federal government because of the 10th amendment.  There is no authority in the constitution for the mandate, but there is nothing in the constitution to prohibit a state from imposing such a mandate.

It rates very high! About time the Dems got a spine!

gingrich is also particularly upset because his congress proposed the
individual mandate (a la romney) back in 1994 

bastards:)

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/09/01/obamacare_and_the_jurisprudence_of_clarence_thomas_111158.html

costs did not go down – they went up.  

bankruptcies due to medical bills also increased.  Premiums so high that people just buy the basics and have to pay the rest out of pocket and this little tidbit you might find interesting:

During the week of April 5, 2010, the Boston Globe reported that more than a thousand people in Massachusetts had “gamed” the mandate/penalty provision of the law since implementation by choosing to be insured only a few months a year, typically when in need of a specific medical procedure. On the average, the Globe reported, these part-time enrolees were paying $1200–$1600 in premiums over a few months and receiving $10,000 or more in healthcare services before again dropping coverage.[41]

lower cost……please cite with proof

You see how the law works is that if the Supreme Court says the Federal government can’t do something, then the rule applies to the states and so on. That’s why states cannot rule against the bill of rights, outlaw abortion, or limit campaign contributions by corporations. That’s why people want a constitutional amendment defining marriage. If the DOMA is ruled unconstitutional, every state that has banned it, will be over turned.

If the mandate is proven to be unconstitutional, then the mandate for car insurance will be challenged and probably be ruled unconstitutional.

Are Republicans so against Obama that they will hurt America just so that they can defeat him in 2012? Is that the meaning of being Patriotic? Is that why we had such a big ordeal about raising the debt ceiling? That was never an issue in the past when we had nothing but WHITE presidents in the office!!!!!

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That is a lot of questions marks in case you did not get that……

Why would an individual mandate be unconstitutional but paying into social security and medicare be ok? 

It wont be cause its the one thing in “Obamacare” that the insurance companies love.  It forces people to buy their products, but doesn’t put in caps.  Also corporations are people too now.

Newt remembers to protect the brand by playing the victim… A unifying tenant for the hodgepodge of assorted righties preening for the public.

Massachusetts is a State for the last 30 years has such a mandate. it fact in order to register or renew plate you have to have a copy of your active insurance binder. I have not lived there for 20 years but I am sure this still is the case today.

I though he was the cowboy from Toy Story?

You’re an idiot. You don’t have a pot to piss. You aren’t paying for anything but your late rent payments. How many people do you employ ass wipe? You think the illegals are going to go away. Are you going to round them up and ship them back? You are a moron. F*&^ yourself no one else would.

ahhh but again you are wrong.  Google Obama and raising debt ceiling and tell me it wasn’t an issue.

You really are an idiot. You can’t look at facts and learn from them. YOu stupid piece of santorum… google it.

Social Security and Medicare are set up as a tax on your earnings. The government is not forcing you to purchase anything but it is taxing you on a future benefit.  The healthcare mandate is far different.

For your reading enjoyment. Two sides to this coin, that’s why it will go to the Supreme Court and your outrageous comment about the court being swayed by little Timmy is ridiculous. More than 50% of all Americans want Health care reform but not this package.
http://scholarship.law.georgetown.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1433&context=facpub&sei-redir=1#search=%22individual%20mandates%20unconstitutional%22

Newt did right by his comment.  It is a debate – not a hate fest.  Every one of them has strengths and weaknesses and Newt was being a statesman pointing that out to the idiot from Politico or wherever the heck he was from.

Yep the also ran has been surely told them!!!!

Yep the also ran has been surely told them!!!!

 Shouldn’t this loser be off charging more stuff to Tiffany’s to keep his mistress happy?

 Shouldn’t this loser be off charging more stuff to Tiffany’s to keep his mistress happy?

Are you referring to ADULT stem cell research or FETAL stem cell research? There IS a difference.

Are you referring to ADULT stem cell research or FETAL stem cell research? There IS a difference.

I can see that you really have respect the office our the presidency. Or maybe you do when it is someone from your own Policital party.

But they are forcing you to pay that tax. In other words if the fed govt would just do medicare for all and up everyones taxes then that would be ok?

no, you have a choice – you can sell your car and walk, take a bike, hitch a ride with Gore.  Your possibilities are endless.  

Stead fast and loyal but not to your own president. No respect what so ever.

 Hard to take a lecture on blame seriously, when it comes from a party that can’t admit their “true conservative” president George W. Boosh presided over the U.S. slipping from prosperity and surpluses to economic collapse and deficits.

LOL
Gingrich actually has fans.
That’s funny stuff.

 Becuase MSNBC actually has conservative hosts to mix with their liberals, whereas FOX is all GOP, all the time

 and the terrorist-loving Ronnie sold arms to Saddam Hussein and the Ayatollah.

 I guess you thought it was honorable when he divorced his first wife on her cancer bed.

excpet the Democratic base is hell of a lot more pragmatic than the teabagging lunatics and AM radio junkies that run the GOP these days.

But the issue isn’t weather or not I choose to drive, The issue is the government forcing you to buy something from a private company. This isn’t a tax or a collection (ala medicare or social security), this is a law forcing you to buy something. Look at it this way. If you own a home, the government cannot force you to use landscaping crews. They can tell you that you have to keep it clean or what not, but they cannot force you to use private companies to take care of your lawn.

 gar1956 if it gets overturned then you win,I truly don’t care either way. But from my experience and in my lifetime once things get put into place in government they tend to stay there. My main beef was that these idiot candidates talk like they are going to sign some kind of document their first day in office and all will be solved. They are dumbing down a complicated issue which I dislike.

Before Obama named Jon Huntsman the ambassador to China, I liked the “mythology” of the man. Having a great deal of admiration for his father, I assumed the son would be of the same sterling character. I haven’t liked the tactics of his campaign, but was willing to see what the man had to say. After tonight, it is obvious to me that he is not the man his father is and is a part of the elitist establishment, no matter how he tries to portray himself as “a lone dirt biker, taking risks and riding the solitary terrain of Utah.” He needs to change his party affiliation, since he’s far more in the mold of Obama.

Doesn’t replying to your own posts become…tiring?

You said;

You see how the law works is that if the Supreme Court says the Federal government can’t do something, then the rule applies to the states and so on. That’s why states cannot rule against the bill of rights, outlaw abortion, or limit campaign contributions by corporations.

You are only partially correct in what you are saying.  Federal law and the federal constitution supercede state law, but in the absence of federal law the states are not restricted unless specifically restricted by the US constitution, the federal government gains all of its power from the constitution, if it writes laws that the constitution does not grant it authority to write then they will be ruled as unconstitutional by the courts.  States on the other hand are not to be restricted by the federal government as long as long as their laws do not interfere with federal law or are otherwise prohibited by the constitution.

10th Amendment reads

“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

Granting the states powers that the federal government does not have..  The states can do things that the federal government cannot do…  but you would have a hard time convincing many progressives of that fact, even though it is clearly stated in the 10th amendment.

The only idiot is you.  I haven’t paid rent in over 30 years.  I don’t have a mortgage  on my homes so the downturn in housing I can weather, so next put down fool.

I no longer have “employees” except my cleaning lady, pool guy and yard guy.  Pay them – and yes, they are all legal.  

If I was a “deadbeat” like you claim, wouldn’t I be wanting every freebie the government offered?  I’m always amazed at some of the deadbeats who can’t tie their shoe laces but know exactly how to play and beat the system.  

So you can’t have it both ways – If I was unemployed, lazy and couldn’t meet rent, you can be damn sure I’d be voting democrat.  Why would I want the gravy train to stop?

But you are discounting a hard reality here. I will give you an example. There is no federal law stating the the drinking age has to be 21. In fact a state could lower this age if they wish. And some held out for a long period of time. But they all caved. Why? Because the federal govt has tons and tons of power and pressured these states to do so. They did it by cutting off funds to these states and basically blackmailed them into caving. Once this Federal Money starts flowing into these states for healthcare the states are going to love it and wont be able to resist it. The people in the states will put pressure on there governors to keep it and in turn these politicians will put pressure on washington to keep it.

exactly what “taxes” did Reagan raise?

well, if you want to get into semantics perhaps you might look into the claim that Reagan raised taxes 8 times.  

That is a mythical statement.  Gas tax yes, income tax no (for one)

How dare the moderators ask candidates to differentiate each other. What do they think we are, a DEMOCRACY? Ugh…

Yes, IMO they would be on more solid ground, when Obamacare first rolled out the president was very specific that it was not a tax.  Later in Florida courts the attorneys tried to argue that it was indeed a tax, but the way it is being implimented does not stand up to it being a tax.  Social Security and Medicare are based on a percentage of your earnings and you pay those taxes directly to the federal government, healthcare you are required to purchase directly from a private insurer, the argument did not hold..  But yes, I think that had it been a tax it would have better standing in the courts, but then you would have single payer which for whatever reason they did not feel that they could pass it that time.

I guess I think you should check out your “urban tale” before you keep believing and spreading it.  

She didn’t have cancer and they were already separated, and had been for quite a while.  She was in the hospital when he brought his children in to see her as they were and remained civil and friendly with each other.  

Conservative hosts? On MSNBC? Ha! Ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha ha ha! Stop! Please stop! You’re killing me! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Best laugh I’ve had all day. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha …

You just made my point there.  Yes, states have powers not given to the federal government in absence of federal law.  However, with it being ruled unconstitutional by the supreme court, it just BECAME federal law.  Thus the states must follow. 

Its a law conundrum and not alone this century.  Remember a few years ago when the SCOUS ruled in the file sharing case?  They said, that even if not intended, companies are now liable if their product is used for illegal activity.  Thus napster could be sued even if their program was only written for sharing open source files.  So where does this leave gun or ammo companies?  Does this mean a family can sue Winchester if a family member is killed by a Winchester gun?  Winchester did not intend foir a gun to be used in a illegal act, but that ruling now says they are liable.  This doesn’t supersede the second amendment.  No one is saying you can’t have a gun.   Is that a valid legal argument?

he did raise corporate tax rates too

I don’t agree

President Obama won tonight’s so-called debate!

Bush was for adult stem cell.  Why do you insist on fabricating a lie?

as for embryonic stem cell government research, he vetoed that.

Despite public perceptions, embryonic stem cell research was legal in the U.S. during the Bush administration: the President had banned the use of federal funds for research. He did not ban private and state research funding, much of which was being conducted by pharmaceutical mega-corporations.

It seems to me that we need to ditch insurance companies.

I believe the term you might be looking for is the “incorporation doctrine?”  The decision that applied some Amendments to the States.

Purveyor

Yes, this is why I like talking to you, you are well thought out and pramatic…  I agree with you about the federal government using funding to bend state governments to its will, and this has been very effective in the past.  We have recently seen however a new breed of governor that is pretty much telling the federal government to take a hike, we have seen it with some of the stimulus and we are also seeing it with medicad funding. I cannot name all the states but just off the top of my head it seems that Texas, Florida, South Carolina, New Jersy, Ohio, and possibly Wisconsin have turned away federal funding in the last 2 years, I think I am right about these states and I think that there are probably more, I do not have research infront of me so I can’t say that I am completely sure about the states that I have named.

You are also making a big assumption that president Obama will win re-election, this is another area where you and I disagree, if our economy does not improve over the next 12 months he will not have a second term, and with a republican president the challange in the supreme court will not be fought with the same conviction for healthcare as it will be by an Obama administration.

Google “Incorporation Doctrine”…. for clarification on how Federal Law is applied to the States, specifically Constitutional Amendments.

Purveyor

I guess I’m just sick of lawyers and bureaucrats having a more credible view on health care as an actual doctor. 

Newt is probably THE most knowledgeable one on the stage, but he just has too much baggage to ever become president. His personal issues overshadow his political savvy.

 I’m not bashing your point of view man.  I respected Howard Dean just as mush as I respect Ron Paul.  Both guys spoke the truth.  Bottom line is that the powers that be will support the candidate that supports their point of view over the candidate that supports the truth.  Sad that in America we support the status quo over the person that speaks the truth.

If the Democrat base was pragmatic, they wouldn’t have supported Kerry & Obama over Dean and Hillary.

newt is brilliant.  no doubt that he could answer the question.  it appears that newt is so over the press/media, etc.  don’t blame him. 

You have a point, however the drinking age has not been challenged as unconstitutional before the SCOUS.  Thus, if the SCOUS rules that a drinking age of 18 is unconstitutional, states cannot do that.

why oh why are they not even acting like he exist??? he’s on some other level.

It is truly beneficial to understand how SCOTUS cases such as “Gitlow” helped create the “incorporation doctrine” which established Federal Supremacy.

Other than that, you are right on the money–well done!

why dont you look at a breakdown of that 47 mil…..i always hated when they through that number around in the 2008 election, like it was all legals and people that wanted it but couldnt afford it.  well, its not.  however, with that said, the 10 mil or so certainly need to be helped.

Its not about health care but who pays for it.

I forgot to mention that your response and questions are thoughtful and insightful.  I just wanted to add the SCOTUS, Gitlow case…  I wish I wasn’t so darn tired or I’d join in.

Respectfully,  Purveyor

I disagree, if the law is struck down by the supreme court it will be because the federal government does not have the authority to compel citizens to purchase insurance.  Nowhere does the constitution grant such authority to the federal government so for the federal government to do so it would do so without constitutional authority making the law unconstitutional.  The federal government is one of limited powers our constitution was written that way.  The federal constitution does not specifically prohibit such a mandate so the states can do so, an example of this is the healthcare law that Romney passed in Massachusetts which does have a purchase mandate and is not being challanged in the courts as it is not deemed to be unconstitutional. 

I can’t answer your question about the guns and bulletts, given the file sharing case you raise some good points and I am sure that we will see more and more challanges to gun rights along the avenue that you have suggested, I think that we have already seen similar cases and we will see more, the courts I do not think have been as clear on gun or ammunition liability as they were with file sharing. 

Typical Lib name caller. Just mention Reagan and libs start huffing and puffing.
I hope you are learning something from the facts about Liberalism…but I doubt it, since you seem to be in love with a failed and soon to be extinct system. Don’t worry, we’ll get you on the Endangered Species List.

Typical Lib name caller. Just mention Reagan and libs start huffing and puffing.
I hope you are learning something from the facts about Liberalism…but I doubt it, since you seem to be in love with a failed and soon to be extinct system. Don’t worry, we’ll get you on the Endangered Species List.

For a fed up guy, you are wonderfully thoughtful and a skilled debater. I have enjoyed this. This is what the board if for IMO.

Let’s do it.  Let’s add to the unemployment rate and guarantee that Obama won’t be re-elected.
Sometimes you blow too hard, or inhale to much.

Thank you purveyor, I look forward to our next debate.

i actually like huntsman a lot and i am extremely conservative.  i have been watching him on cspan, etc. since may.  his campaign has been very clean so far.  the issues that are considered “moderate” are not my main issues, so i am keeping an open mind about him.  but as far as an elitist, sure, he obviously has been blessed with living in a wealthy family, but he has done soooooo much.  i feel that the current prez is much more of an elitist.

politics aside, look up the term racketeering and tell me insurance companies don’t do the same thing. There is no difference between corporate bureaucracy and political bureaucracy. I will be honest in saying that it one industry I wouldn’t mind seeing go away.

Oh I agree with you Blow. I think we all discount the real power of the feds sometimes though. The real power comes from special interests groups who influence our politicians with money and lobbying ( AKA MAD in this instance with the drinking age). Fed up brings up good points below and he’s right there is really no telling if Obama gets reelected. The democrats and republicans are very vulnerable  to this type of lobbying and money. If a new president gets in and republicans can show that less of the citizens are insured than before Obama care they have a chance. But they are going to have to show that and I don’t think they will be able to. Then the supreme court will have to overturn this  healthcare bill which is already in motion as we speak,then the republicans are going to have to come up with another plan to try and make people happy. All the while the democrats will be fighting tooth and nail to keep this bill. The way our govt works these days I just don’t see all of these things happening. This bill is here to stay. Remember when Bush tried to mess with social security just a little? He got can blasted from both sides of the fence.

And once again…only if you drive.  If you do, you could possibly kill someone by driving.  That’s why you have insurance.  Can you pay a family for the death of a loved one due to your negligence? Or for property damage? Still want to ditch insurance companies? 
The Health Care mandate is different, you have to buy insurance if you’re alive and breathing.
Who ya’ gonna’ kill just by breathing?

I have always said that insurance is just legalized extortion. But there are just some things that you better have insurance for, or you risk it all.

That Republikkkan roster looked like an ad for the Nut of the Month club.

If this old buggard can’t stand the heat, maybe he should take his old ass out of the kitchen. This part of the debate is to be expected. This old fart doesn’t get to change the rules.

Deep down it’s all about his skin, absolutely no doubt about it!

newt is the biggest loser of the field–forget about him having an affair on his wife with cancer while condeming Bill Clinton…
this clown is the biggest joke since lil dick morris–they part of the whole fake fox hype where they create drama in exchange for honesty—
fake christian charlatans–whore mongers and carpet baggers—
he, hannity and now Texas 2 step are closet homosexuals trying to compensate for small…..

what a bunch of clowns~

ya a trap to a conserative is a question that requires actual knowledge, facts or honesty!
hahahaha
losers…

here is another TRAP==”what newspapers do you read?”
OMG–that GOTCHA  journalism–
unlike fox who edits out parts of dialogue and creates fake drama

geesh..ya those gotcha questions…hahahahaha
clowns~

maybe he should stop spending campaign money on vacations and private jets?

he could just do like palin and get a pac so he can vacation more and spend dummie donor money –
what kind of moron would give a dime to these losers?
really?

hey where is ted haggar? i think he is not gay anymore–lets give him some money too~
dummies~

at least msnbs is not littered with failed presidential candidates, GWBush leftovers and a band of traitors ie Ollie North, Karl Rove…
Fox news is a direct fall back of Nixon years developed to push propoganda and fill the lazy minds of the gullible with soft porn/news –to work on fox you have to get a face lift and bleach your hair to trailor trash blonde~
look at Lou Dobb—-
 these people at Fox are nothing more than a bunch of closet homosexuals and repressed d-teasers– 
hannity is so gay–he make bachmans husbad seem  manly–and that is a stretch…

i think ron paul put it best–
reagan has a great message–he just really did not do that much for america..

you calling ron paul a liar?

hahaha
reagan gave us cheese–remember?
and ollie north?
oh ya and national cocaine habit–at least we kicked the mary jane huh?
clowns~

ya and if a pig could fly–it would be a bird—
are you stupid?
if any of these clowns were not morons–they may be an actual threat to obama–that is the probem–
that WHAT IFY THINGY..

hey–maybe if you pray for fire you will get rain?
hahahaha
clowns~

I certainly hope this is team Obama’s campaign strategy–calling his opponent a racist. Because in the absence of improvement on the things that actually matter, most Americans will hear this and see it for what it is.

I think the best part of the debate was the tribute to Ronnie and Nancy.  They looked like they were actually in love with each other.  

The moderator should ask them: Have any of you belonged to a church run by a deranged, racist, America-hating black preacher?

Peace loving liberals? hahahaha… They’ve failed to bring the troops home – failed. Really Obama has been no different than Bush.

What drugs are you on? In case you haven’t noticed, the President has INSISTED on working with apes (WHOOPS – I meant republicans) for a bipartisan government! 

Jesus Christ!

Most Americans already KNOW this for what it is. He doesn’t have to call anyone racist. The racist’s actions are doing it for him!

Howard Dean is a doctor, too. Democrat, and loves “Obamacare.”

Do you actually have a clue?

Growup!

Your point is?????????????????????????????

Where have you been? Obama has done quite well all by himself in hurting America. Yes, Republicans are against Obama.

Yeah right. Mike Dukakis fell for that ‘answer the moderator’s question’ bullspit and NEVER recovered.

I wonder what Obama’s grades in college were. You know by any chance? Just asking

Mark Fuhrman, Ollie North, Tom DeLay, Dick Morris, etc
Quality FOX regulars there there. I think the easiest way to get a job on a Hannity panel is to have either a criminal conviction or get caught with prostitutes.

Why are there media panels at these debates, anyway?

This is a Republican primary, and there’s a decided bias by media against Republicans. So why doesn’t the GOP use moderators who will present perspectives and questions from a Republican standpoint, without the media taint?

If the networks don’t acceed, then move the debate!

Poor  Tony Rezko is rotting in a county jail . He has a lot to say .

Can’t get a trial till after the election .

Justice in Obamaville !

The message from the debate, now resonating throughout the rest of America, is what many warned us about in 2008 – the community organizer is in Way Over His Head!

Romney & Huntsman  vs.  Obama & Biden

Now, outside of the Democratic-sponsored union gangs, and minorities who vote on skin color, who would you pick in 2012?  

Another Prog/Lib melting down after the mere mention of the great Ronald Reagan’s name.
Reagan gave us a cocaine habit? Take some responsibility cokehead.

“Herb Tarlich,”  We had a Herb Tarlich party once.  The invitees had to dress like Herb.  Was hilarious, we cleaned out the Good Will Stores!  LOL   That was back in 87…

Purveyor

Sadly, The Health Care Bill is so “gargantuan,”  (good word, “gargantuan,” when is the last time you heard or saw the word? LOL)  That NOBODY can understand it…

I firmly conclude that opening insurance sales across State Borders with proper regulation would have been a simpler solution?

I never liked you…LOL

That was a wonderful conversation you and BLOWHARD, et.al. were having.  My cup-o-tea.  After reading over the comments, the conclusion I draw, is that the Government, including the Courts, are, typically, venturing into areas they should stay out of.  

Congress, expressly has the power to regulate commerce, Health Insurance is commerce!  When America, typically starts duct taping and bailing wire everything together, we end with the mess we’ve got.  

BLOWS question about Winchester Rifles, again, is “typical.”  The answer should be obvious, Winchester didn’t pull the trigger, but…  A sympathetic Jury or a Liberal Supreme Court and we’ve got another mess, when the common sense is right in front of us.

(By the Way, I own a Winchester, 1300 combat shotgun)

Dennis Kucinich and Al “Race Pimp” Sharpton were far nuttier.

Define “racist”.

In the early 1990s, an acquaintance who co-owned “Paladin Press” which specialized in military and adventure books, sold a copy of “HIT MAN,” to a guy who used the book, verbatim, to kill 3 people!

Rice vs. Paladin Press 1997 (Federal Appellate Court)

The Respondent called the case “economic censorship.”  The petitioner, didn’t care what it was called, she just wanted anybody and everybody held accountable!

The Court found for the Plaintiff (Rice)

Can you see the parallels between this case and your Winchester example?  How would you have decided?

Purveyor

Aren’t you glad I was tired last nite?

No… I would have been surprised if it wasn’t. Kinda like how things were here in the US between 2000-2008.

President Ford (Repub) was shot at… twice.

Anyone who disagrees with a liberal!

The real question is about the people that deliberately use this slur against whites - let’s start branding them – and their media that spreads the LIE – as the true RACISTS!

lol!

Why do the republicans latch on to theis all talk no substance rhetoric?

I feel like when we watch these speeches or debates, it’s like cheerleaders getting the crowd to forget what they are doing and just chant something like “drill baby drill”.  It doesn’t matter what they say as long as it is catchy and anti-obama.

Newt,,,is the only one that is brave enough to tell it like it is,,,,,,He won the debat,,,You can tell all the media,,,,and I mean all,,including fox,,,wants the election to be between perry and romney

Wow!  you remembered his name!  lol!

Wow!  you remembered his name!  lol!

Reagan Raised taxes 8 times! Thats Why Bush 41 said “Read my lips, no new taxes” .Then Bush raised them too! 

That Newt. What a real uniter.

Obama is a conservative moderate war hawk.

Go to a Tea party Rally and see how peaceful they are. Extremes on both sides!

Um, the message from the debate is that the republican field is still open. 

After 9/11 Bush 43 had the whole country behind him….While standing at ground zero ”I can hear you….” This was his highest rating while in office, He could have done something extraordinary. Instead he invaded Iraq which had nothing to do with 9/11 and became incredibly Partisan.

“there’s a decided bias by media against Republicans”

That’s not a media bias, it’s an American bias. The public majority can’t stand the idiots.

No, the moderator should have said, “Raise your hand and shout it proud if you’ve NEVER begged for government funding.” [play cricket.wav]

Love your flag by the way. It must make you feel more American than the rest of us.

Les Nessman would have been a Repulicain. But I loved his character. Ever notice Les had a bandaid on him somewhere in every scene. Sometimes you had to look for it. Great show. I miss it.

team obama’s strategy all along has been to call any opponent, on any issue, racist.  my response to this over used accusation is  “then i guess i am..”  ho hum.

No, the question would be:Have any of you belonged to a church run by a deranged, racist, America-hating preacher?     

not on any drugs, but thanks for asking.  just my opinion. i give ANY of them (including the prez) props for even wanting to be in politics at this time.  but, obama is an elitist in MY opinion.

And I’m sure you’re soooo happy Rev. Al Sharpton now has a show on MSNBC even though he’s the biggest crook out there. Ever heard of Tawana Brawly? Ever heard of Rev. Al’s credit card commercials?
Sharpton is a liar, criminal, and has hurt the black community way more than he helps.

No his college transcripts are in a democrat vault with his real birth cert.

Bob….other than the notorious fence-sitter Scarborough, name one conservative host on PMSNBC!  And for the record, FOX consistently invites guest from both sides of the political spectrum to discuss hot topic events and issues.  You are pretty much a bald faced liar and shame on you for trying to get away with this whopper!

I fly a flag on my house and use one for an avatar because I love America, not to make me feel above anyone else. If that’s what you or my neighbors think, it must suck to have that kind of low self-esteem.
Why do you hate America anyway?
Lose the hat, get a haircut and get a real job.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=su3HiXOjrfA&feature=related

His own kids are liberal?  Really?

Does Michael Reagan know this, ass clown?

While many of you are scrapping over the character of Newt, I applaud him for keeping in the spirit of Reagan’s Eleventh Commandment: “Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican”. 

And for those dillweeds out there who will be quick to respond with a snarky, “but he stole that from someone else”! – Yes, I know but it was a policy he embraced his entire political career.

Remember the speech scheduling brouhaha last week when the libs were saying ‘nobody’s going to watch the Rep debate, anyway’? Well, well, well. Seems like more libs watched than non-libs.

That is overly simplistic and a just plain nonsense.  Just because you are on Mediaite, doesn’t mean you have to post.  Why not wait and post something substantive?

Chinese Proverb:
“Better to remain silent and have people wonder if you are a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.”

The Purveyor of Rhetoric

Like I said, we had  a “Herb Tarlich” party!  Loud sport coats, bell bottom slacks and ugly ties.  The best accouterment was a broad white belt!  LOL  (side burns had to planned well in advance)

We also had “Sparkle Parties” and “Hat Parties”  Those were the 80′s, so we weren’t just drinking Beer, wink, wink!!

Thank you for bringing back some hidden, yet, very fun memories.

“John Brown’s body lies a molderin in the grave…”

Harper’s Ferry?

Dear sir.Ronald Reagan’s three surviving children — Michael, Patti and Ron.But ask whether any of their father’s potential Republican successors could claim the Reagan mantle, and they say no way. Everyone is trying to Out-Reagan Reagan.Ron Reagan and Patti Davis sharply disagree with michael, calling the Tea Party’s message “extreme” and contrary to their father’s principles. You are right Michael would be conservative.(His dad probably would be considered a liberal by today’s GOP.)  Back to Michael… agreed.  Pati & Ron al Liberal. But you did get 1 out of 3. I’ll give you that.

yoodoo2  WHAT HELL IS SO GOOD ABOUT OBAMA!

MarkfromSavannah:  “ass clown? ” ……………………………………such a witty madcap merrymaker you are! Dear sir .

Way Too Early with Willie Geist.  You know Willie. He and his butt buddy were on together on the Tucker Carson show on MSNBC.With that said Tell me a show on fox with a Dem host? Haniaty did have Combs but got rid of him.Boy, was he tough to look at.I think Fox did that on purpose. The Ugly Democrat is a picture they wanted painted.

FACT: Stem cell reseach is supported by far more Liberals than Conservatives. If you believe otherwise you sir are the one who is ignorant and know so much that isn’t so. Anyone tell you you just suck?

I fly the flag every day in front of my house except in bad weather. I live near our town common and faithfully have rasied, lowered and proporly fold it every night with help usually with one of my children. But you use the flag as your personal banner. Just another Rebulican wrapping himself in the flag. It sir belongs to all Americans.

Come on Newt! The debates are designed to bring out the differences between you and the other candidates. Otherwise what is the point. You’re smarter than that.

 I have been watching political debates since Nixon/Kennedy and I must say, I have never seen a more despicable show of bias and idiocy as shown by Brian Williams and whoever the other guy was…I can’t imagine anything was accomplished by the lack of serious questions asked.

It’s just symbolism to you, for me it’s substance. Just another America-hating Lib trying to act like they like the way America works. Go watch you dvr’d episodes of Countdown. I no longer debate with fakers like you. Stop replying to me and I’ll do the same.

http://secondamendmentwarrior.webs.com  that says it all.

I do not recall anybody saying they would not watch that debate. Not anybody.

The big deal was Teapublicans saying they would be watching football, not Obama’s jobs speech.

You are just bitchin’ ’bout nothing.

Then what is a debate for?

What is the point of trying to pick the best “Republican” candidate if they all say the exact same thing? “Obama must go.” We all get that. We all know those guys want Obama’s job. Which one is the best one for that job is what debating is for.

Romney AND Huntsman?
No  way. The Christian conservative base will not go for two guys who are so similar, and I don’t just mean their religion. Romney will probably pick someone form the southwest that we never even heard of.

I have got to agree.. It was so great seeing Newt put those 2 in their places. We have got to all agree we have to get Obama out before he kills our country.. We certainly cant afford another 4 years of his socialism and class warfare. I dont care who the Republican is running against Obama they will have my vote and support. Dont know when this country will learn that having a democrat as president will only make taxes go up and make us yellow and apologetic for being Americans. 

Yeah, there’s nothing more courageous than whining during a presidential candidate debate about being asked questions you don’t want to answer about members of your own party when you’d prefer to just talk shit about the sitting president in an attempt to distract the easily distracted…

There are ways to deal with questions one would prefer not to deal with other than chiding the moderator, but given the GOP’s love of insulting people, Newt went with his voting base, instead.

Theresa – perhaps you have been spending too much time listening to the mainstream media.  Perhaps you didn’t get the memo – the economy is in the toilet and Chris Wallace and the Obama administration would love to distract us from this issue.  Must I remind you that Obama has the House and the Senate until November 2010?  In the time the rammed through Obamacare – against the will of the people.  He failed to produce a budget and has trippled the deficit – while he and his wife continued to bill us for his vacations – more then $10M the last time I checked.  Newt is standing firm that moderators should be objective, trust-worthy people – not puppets for the administration.  His refusal to enter into this caddy, transparent attempt to make Republicans turn on each other should be applauded.  Also – the first budget put together this year came from the GOP – not the dems.  The GOP tried to cut back on spending and the dems rejected this approach.  Why?  Because they consider the American tax payer their private little piggy bank.  It is sick.  We have seen the VP and many others close to Obama attack the American people – racist, greedy, terrorists.  Saying things like the Tea Party can go straight to hell.  I know you think that as long as you are not affected it is ok for the dems to cheat and lie.  I recommend that you take a look at the Bill of Rights.  Which by the way does not soley exist to protect you and the left, but ALL Americans.  I think the ignorance of your party has reached its tipping point.  Conservatives, white people, Jews, and Christains are getting REALLY tired of being demonized and bullied by people who think that they can do anything they want at our expense.  The double standard needs to go away and so does the racist man in the white house.

He did do something extraordinary – he stopped us from gettin attacked again.  Of course the lives of thousands of Americans who died on 9/11 means nothing to the left – that is evident by the causes you support and the lack of tolerance you show for anyone who is white, conservative, jewish or Christan. We were attacked all over the world like 12 times under Clinton and he did nothing.  Obama couldn’t even come back from his Christmas vacation to address the Christmas Eve bombing attempt.  And as for Iraq – I would just like to remind you that Hussain was given many, many opportunities to let the UN in to look for WMD – and he refused. We gave him so many chances to stop the war that would soon come, but he played the game and he lost.  Please stop trying to rewrite history with your left leaning mantra.  It is getting really, really old!

You have me dating myself!

Your post is dumb on multiple levels. First, it shows your useful idiot side that is willing to just go along with Obama’s “blame Bush” rhetoric. Second if you think Bush was a true conservative or that any true conservative believes that, then you know nothing. Problem with Bush was he was a big govt rhino who grew the govt in the same manner Obama has (although 1/10 as much as Obama) by spending too much money the country didn’t have trying to do things he thought you stupid liberals would appreciate like “fighting Aids in Africa” and “no child left behind”, not realizing that you are so hopelessly partisan to Democrats you would never realize he was doing those things.

Have a nuther lil drinkee-poo, Newt.  Try to catch up to BushDrunk.  Stagger onwards.  You may be Prez yet!

Actually the Republican made the so-called newsman look like the petty, biased individual he is. Newt was right, level-headed thinking Americans not looking  for handouts know Obamacare is simply Obama’s  thinly-veiled attempt to further grow the Federal Govt against the original intentions of the creators of the Constitution. Knowledgeable peopple know it’s up to the individual states to decide for themselves and that the Federal govt just doesn’t and shouldn’t have those powers.People with a brain understand the dangers of creating a centralized entitlement society.

Useful idiot alert.

OK 12voltman…….how about Bob Beckel and his potty mouth?  He routinely moderates ‘The Five’ on Fox and is actually quite entertaining to listen to.  He does have one unsavory characteristic that you liberals find sickening: The ability to offer compromise and admit when he’s wrong.  (I’m sure by your definition, that makes him a Tea Party member!)

Actually Bob if you look at when the fiscal problems began it was after the Dem’s had control of house and Senate (latter filibuster proof) after January 2006 …. Congress controls the purse strings not the President   …..it was a spendthrift Dem congress under Pelosi and Read that exploded the debt and deficit …. up till 2006, debt and deficits were manageable despite two wars. 80% of the increase in debt under Bush occurred after Jan 2006. Pelosi Read (and by agreement Obama after 2009) exploded debt by more than $6trillion in just 4 years ….. it took more than 200 years (including  a Civil War, 2 world wars, Vietnam, 1st Gulf War, Iraq and Afghanistan) to reach $8 trillion of national debt … take the blinkers of Bobby !!