can’t wait to sit in a restaurant right next to someone who just finished smoking a doobie. If this was another state it would be interesting, but it’s California and they are so fucked up in all aspects…they are a failed state. Will the feds pull pre-emption if it is voter legalized? not likely huh. it’s ok for the government to pick and choose favorites. That is a preview of the future if progressives win, government decides all.

I’m suprised New Hampshire or Vermont hasn’t done this previously…hell even Oregon or Washington. Well atleast it’s not an electronic indulgence.

Stoners don’t make for prolific blog commentaters I guess.

California is not a “failed state.”

California is the 7th largest economy in the world and the internet would not exist without California (see headquarters of Apple, Cisco, Oracle etc).

So thank us, you retard “jk76!”

Without the liberal brains out here in CA, you’d be writing the above message in crayon and sending it by mail to your local newspaper.

Also, is Arnold a “progressive?”

That sure is news to me.

“That is a preview of the future if progressives win, government decides all.”

If government getting out of your life and not arresting you and wasting tax dollars on small time weed offenses is “government decides all” then you have a curious way of proving it.

This is the OPPOSITE of big government and a step in the right direction economically and common sense wise. It is a waste of your tax dollars and valuable police time to keep hauling in non violent small time weed smokers.

I only do this thing for mir freunde Woody Harrelson , Jack Nicholson , Donny Osmond und Alex Trebek .

Maybe this is the beginning of the end of our society’s regression, talk about deja vu. I was living in So. Cal in the mid-seventies when California did exactly the same thing and made less than an ounce a misdemeanor

Two steps forward and one back? Still some fear and loathing to wrest from this issue or has padding the coffers of the Prison Industrial Complex finally become passe’?
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jk76 said:
can’t wait to sit in a restaurant right next to someone who just finished smoking a doobie. If this was another state it would be interesting, but it’s California and they are so fucked up in all aspects…they are a failed state. Will the feds pull pre-emption if it is voter legalized? not likely huh. it’s ok for the government to pick and choose favorites. That is a preview of the future if progressives win, government decides all.

I’m suprised New Hampshire or Vermont hasn’t done this previously…hell even Oregon or Washington. Well atleast it’s not an electronic indulgence.

You don’t seem to be a person who favors states rights.

“So…what’s next?”

Next step, win the ballot initiative to legalize marijuana. California will then step in to control sales because the state desperately needs the tax revenue.

According to Gov Schwarzenegger, “California is now saddled with $550 billion of retirement debt” and that amount is only going up. Since California, unlike the Federal government, can’t print money to pay its bills, California will be a “failed state” if it cannot reduce that liability. If the Democrats and unions refuse to compromise on the pension plans, California could easily be declaring bankruptcy in the next ten years, even with the additional revenue from pot.

Arnold explains the pain:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703447004575449813071709510.html

A clear play for dopers, but Democrats will work hard to hold on to this core part of their party’s base.

chemical prison?

Re: can’t wait to sit in a restaurant right next to someone who just finished smoking a doobie. If this was another state it would be interesting, but it’s California and they are so fucked up in all aspects…

Last time I checked smoking wasn’t allowed in restaurants in California. I’m just saying…

NY should follow suit….

felixw said:
A clear play for dopers

The Democrats hope that the supporters of Prop 19 turn out in force, since most will be Democrats or independents who lean Democrat. Naturally they will vote for Democratic candidates, which would be especially helpful for Brown and Boxer. It’s a clever strategy in an off-year election when the Democratic base isn’t particularly motivated.

I can’t believe I have to clear up so many misinterpretations. 1) I don’t do drugs and I don’t smoke anything. 2) failed state = horrible government, laws, and broke 3) I never said Arnold was a progressive; I know exactly what he is. I was referring to the pre-emption part since this Admin won’t fight the legalization if it is voter approved….just reread my post. 4)I do favor states’ rights, in fact I would love the feds to get the fuck out of the way and force the states to pick up the slack as intended in the United States. 5) I never said the person next to me would be smoking in the restaurant, I stated AFTER. I’ve been around people who smoke and worked with people who did it on breaks. Then again maybe it won’t be so bad since it would be legal they can smoke it in the open instead of in the car so it doesn’t soak into them.

Basically I was suprised other more free/independent states haven’t tried this before, which is why I named those states. I usually don’t check for responses when I post, but this was fun Anyone else wanna get on their knees so I can unzip?

Amsterdam here we come. The Police are now starting to crack down in the Red Light District. It will be interesting to see if this Social Experiment becomes cause d’rigour for the Police.

At least the Police can get on with the Traffickers and possibly issue citations to the Pot Smokers who exceed their legal allotment.

Down here in Sydney we used to call Police Headquarters `Marijuana Castle’ – the harder you sucked, the higher you went.

To bad Arnold can’t run for President

felixw said:
Basically I was suprised other more free/independent states haven’t tried this before, which is why I named those states. I usually don’t check for responses when I post, but this was fun Anyone else wanna get on their knees so I can unzip?

Azarkhan said:
The Democrats hope that the supporters of Prop 19 turn out in force, since most will be Democrats or independents who lean Democrat. Naturally they will vote for Democratic candidates, which would be especially helpful for Brown and Boxer. It’s a clever strategy in an off-year election when the Democratic base isn’t particularly motivated.

So many conspiracys.
At least you have an excuse if you don’t win the House.

jk76 said:
can’t wait to sit in a restaurant right next to someone who just finished smoking a doobie. If this was another state it would be interesting, but it’s California and they are so fucked up in all aspects…they are a failed state. Will the feds pull pre-emption if it is voter legalized? not likely huh. it’s ok for the government to pick and choose favorites. That is a preview of the future if progressives win, government decides all.

I’m suprised New Hampshire or Vermont hasn’t done this previously…hell even Oregon or Washington. Well atleast it’s not an electronic indulgence.

So they DEcriminalize something and it’s STILL an encroachment of government? You people are just plain idiots.

right-is-wrong said:
So many conspiracys

OK, the Democrats are really dumb and don’t have a strategy to get their voting base to the polls. Happy now?

Azarkhan said:
OK, the Democrats are really dumb and don’t have a strategy to get their voting base to the polls. Happy now?

much better
I think Jon stewart said it best in this clip
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-february-16-2006/headlines—use-the-force

at best the dems are ewoks

right-is-wrong said:
at best the dems are ewoks

Sarah Palin on the dumb EMILY’s List ad:

First, ladies, it’s hard to take a critic seriously when they lecture you wearing a bear suit. So, it’s difficult for me to drum up much outrage at this latest ad. But, really, lying about a sister while wearing an Ewok outfit is no way to honor our foremothers on the eve of the 90th anniversary of their victory. But, that aside, I’d love to know where you got those get-ups. Halloween is just around the corner, and Piper and Trig would look adorable as little grizzly bears.

am not a drug user anymore however the criminality and secrecy leads to unseen problems. Prison and drug prosecution are not solutions. Fortunately I had the opportunity to attend a symposium hosted the The Volunteer Lawyers For The Arts and LMCC in New York City, lectured by John Donohue III, Leighton Homer Surbeck Professor of Law, Yale Law School. Please take the time research his (John Donohue The Third) studies and lectures, it proves the effectiveness of legalizing drugs while measuring its cost on society.
And A special thanks to the Lower Manhattan Cultural Council (LMCC) and Volunteer Lawyers For The Arts for providing information to the public and artists.

Hey, if you can’t stop it, TAX-IT! Yes sir, that’s the California way. Arnold has just opened the door to a myriad of ridiculous tax raising avenues.

This has so much more logic in it then Prop 19…Prop 19 is a sham… it was created for all the wrong reasons.. Has nothing to do with helping people or making it legal.. Prop 19 was created to generate MONEY…come Jan 1st. you can drive with up to an ounce and its not even a misdemeanor if you get pulled over…. California… You enjoy the benefit of growers who have money and put it back into communities and businesses… If Prop 19 passes, you can count on it not benefiting anyone.. Everyone will have less $$$ –The State wont be able to collect its $50 per ounce tax and growers sure as hell are not going to sell ounces for $38 bucks… Wake up… Arnold is right in this situation, and Oaksterdam politics don’t reflect what’s happening around the rest of the state! California will face destitute, not a gold rush if they pass prop 19 !

It’s been amazing to see the “Terminator” turned into the a sniveling RINO.

I can’t wait to blaze up legally!!!

Bout time! Lets hear it for States Rights!!!

Let em’ rip!!!!