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Associated Press Reports A Third Herman Cain Accuser Alleging Sexual Harassment

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On the third full day of the Herman Cain alleged sexual harassment scandal, the Associated Press reports a third woman has come forward to allege that the current GOP frontrunner behaved inappropriately when he was head of the National Restaurant Association in the nineties. This latest accusation adds to the volume of the story, if not the depth, as the woman has opted to remain anonymous, and reportedly never filed a complaint against Cain.

From The Associated Press:

She worked for the National Restaurant Association when (Cain) was its head. She told The Associated Press that Cain made sexually suggestive remarks or gestures about the same time that two co-workers had settled separate harassment complaints against him.

The employee described situations in which she said Cain told her he had confided to colleagues how attractive she was and invited her to his corporate apartment outside work. She spoke on condition of anonymity, saying she feared retaliation.

This latest report cuts two ways for Herman Cain. On the one hand, another anonymous claim, this one without any formal complaint or financial settlement, doesn’t really add much to what has already been reported, but it does give the general impression of an out-of-the-woodwork pile-on. The Cain campaign didn’t comment for the AP, but that’s how their response will likely sound, that it’s just a feeding frenzy.

On the other hand, this latest accuser isn’t bound by any non-disclosure agreement, and if she is pushed hard enough by Cain’s denials, there’s nothing to stop her from shedding that anonymity. A flesh-and-blood victim is a lot more persuasive than an anonymous one.

 

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  • Anonymous

    The sharks are circling, they smell money!!

  • Moosenuts99

    RUUHHHHH ROOOHHHHH

    LOL

    BUT IT’S ALL
    RACIST!!!!

    BAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHhah

    I Am America-uh-uh

  • Anonymous

    I’m reserving judgment, but any positive interpretation of this for Cain would appear hopelessly optimistic. 

  • Anonymous

    And Herman Cain is now DONE!

  • Anonymous

    Cain is falling, he smells failure!

  • Charlie Kane

    Herman Cain’s Bimbo eruptions. Payback is a B*tch. This guy is a degenerate. But he’s the only man who can stop the Chinese from developing a nuclear bomb . Whatever

  • Mo Fokker

    I think it is time for Larry Flint to offer money to women who have slept with the minister to come forward – hookers or otherwise.

  • http://OsamaObamaBIDENbiNLAden.blogspot.com/ ObamaOsamaBIDENbiNLAden

    It’s all made up. Watch how they make it up as they go this week. When the “accusers” speak out you’re going to see a lot of bad acting

  • Anonymous

    Golddiggers are coming out now

    This ain’t right man

  • SammyC

    Didn’t Obama say on Leno that he would just wait til everone get’s voted off the island? Cain is the last one. Time to tear Rommney a new one.

  • http://www.storminsmorningjava.blogspot.com/ stormin1961

    Bill Clinton’s reaction: “imitation is the greatest form of flattery”

  • Anonymous

    Anybody can accuse anybody of anything .

    If this becomes a trend and Kathleen Turner , Sandra Bullock and , uh … , Morgan Fairchild do any allegating about Gloves P. Donahue , well , it’s all true , see ?

  • Anonymous

    That’s ok because Michele Bachmann will protect us from the emerging USSR threat…

  • Tony

    Republicans are losing, they smell defeat.

  • Anonymous

    lmao!!!

  • Tony

    He’s the only guy who can find out who’s the president of ubeki-beki-beki-stan! We need him!!

  • Anonymous
  • http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/630-E-Lovell-Dr-Troy-MI-48085/24509418_zpid/ Louisa Gismonde Calcaterra

    He was always done….now he’s just overcooked, kinda like his crappy Godfather’s pizzas.  LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous
  • Tony

    Kind of sad. I really wanted to know who’s the president of ubeki-beki-beki-stan and whether or not China is building nuclear weapons.

  • http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/630-E-Lovell-Dr-Troy-MI-48085/24509418_zpid/ Louisa Gismonde Calcaterra

    Good grief, what’s next – we’re going to find out he slept with a delivery driver at Godfather’s Pizza?   LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Please form a single line.  Have your IDs ready.

  • Anonymous

    ^ “Anybody can accuse anybody of anything”

    That’s true. Just look at all the nonsense that Obama was (and is) accused of. It puts things in perspective, huh? The difference, however, is that with Obama the accusations were totally baseless.

    http://i39.tinypic.com/35jwdpj.png

  • Anonymous

    Cain is toast

  • Hetoimasia

    Can you spell ‘siht storm’! I can’t, but maybe you can!

  • Pete pitt

    Feels like Bill Clinton all over again. Payoffs and more woman coming forward.

  • Hetoimasia

    Doesn’t that make him the Messiah?!?!

  • Anonymous

    As far as this accusation goes, I don’t really take it one way or the other. I expected more accusations to follow, regardless of his guilt or innocence. It could be someone with a legitimate gripe, or it could be a nut job who likes to insert themselves into media stories. Hell, even if Cain is the biggest perv alive, I’m willing to bet that someone will come forward with a false accusation, now that the story has taken off. It won’t really change anything, unless Cain reacts to the news in the worse way possible, as he did with the original Politico story.

  • Southernyankee1964

    your name says all I need to know about you.

  • Anonymous

    You mean Morgan Freeman dontcha?

  • JimmyTrackScorn999

    You know there are almost a dozen other GOP candidates.  Conservatives don’t have to chain themselves to this idiot rock called Herman Cain.  There’s a perfectly good pile nearby.

  • Mo Fokker

    Is any of this out of character for Christian conservatives?

  • ceeza

    Oh Boy. A GOP consultant has just come forward saying HE WITNESSED Cain sexually harass women.. dv kfdbvkecms kdfb kbdfj bkdjvb kjdvb kjdvjk …

  • Anonymous

    Looks like Michelle Bachmann is kicking him while he’s down.

  • Tony

    Now I understand why he was so calm and smooth. He knew GOP candidates would self-destruct. All he needs to do now is to sit back and enjoy. He’s approval is getting closer to 50% again.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_M5V6VTQAVLARF7XXO47Z5OCZWM TangledThorns

    People are coming out of wood work just for the money. Oh yeah, some GOP consultant who is a Perry supporter said he saw the harassment. I’m tired of this and will make my first campaign donation to Cain. It’s obvious he is disliked by the GOP establishment and liberals so he is OK in my book.

  • Mo Fokker

    We don’t give a shit how you spend your money. You already flushed some down the crapper on Sarah Palin, and it will be no different with Cain.

  • Mo Fokker

    I am probably not going out on a limb in saying this, but Herman Cain’s corporate apartment was probably used in a manner similar to the way Dave Letterman used the apartment above his studio.

  • Anonymous

    Typical.
    Sharon Angle and Christine O’Donnell also had their campaign donations go sky high as they were self-destructing.

  • Chrisg

    Ro Roh!

    Could there BE a more appropriate photo to accompany these stories?????  LOL!  I guess he didn’t foreseee how that creepy leer would soon have such a different impact!

  • ceeza

    The only thing I know for sure is that the GOP establishment are some low down dirty ruthless vatos…

  • Anonymous

    Agreed. I’m not much for Cain, but I don’t see how an anonymous accuser adds depth to the situation. That’s the least credible account yet.

    All in all, I hope the Republicans keep shooting themselves in the foot so Huntsman can swoop in and challenge Obama. This is my moment of hopeless optimism.

  • Anonymous

    Agreed. I’ve already made my judgment on him as a potential president, so whether or not these are legitimate or nuisance suits is of not of great concern to me. There’s already plenty of information about Cain to warrant his rejection at the polls. 

  • http://profiles.google.com/fatlibertarianinokc Fat Libertarian

    If Herman Cain worked for TSA then Democrats would be applauding his assaults.

    Also, Politico’s editor harassed me but I’m not coming forward.  

  • Ben Dover

    There is some smoke, so there is likely to be some fire and it looks like the GOP will be going to down in flames with Mittsy.
    All the Dems have is some Kenyan-born socialist and the GOP STILL can’t find a candidate to beat him? Hmmmm…..might be time for the GOP to reconsider kowtowing to its conservative minority and rebrand itself as a more centrist party.  Oh, who am I kidding, the lunatics have taken over the asylum and only crazy people are welcome there.  So 2012 is off the table and 2016 is looking iffy….Marco might be rehabbed by 2020, but will the Hispanics vote for him after he’s been on his knees to the anti-immigration crowd?….

    …time will tell.

  • Anonymous

    Go for it! I’m sure I speak for many people here when I say GIVE TILL IT HURTS!!

  • Anonymous

    I think the “Cain Train” might have just jumped the tracks.

    He was a pretty good candidate if you could overlook the lack of political experience, the lack of education, the lack of knowledge of the issues, the lack of a coherent plan to govern the country, the lack of morals, the lack of restraint, and the lack of integrity. Other than that–why NOT make him President?

  • Anonymous

    LMAO!

  • Tony

    It might be that these women are lying. But then again Hermie hasn’t been convincing at all when he has tried to explain what happened and what didn’t happen.

  • Ralph

    “A flesh-and-blood victim is a lot more persuasive”

    But the third anonymous complainant has even less evidence of harassment than the first two anonymous complainants, and still likely more than the next half dozen anonymous complainants.

    If the media publishes nothing then how can it be something?

    Names, dates, facts.  These are the things that used to comprise the news.

  • Anonymous

    You’re once, twice, three times a lady…

  • Anonymous

    Libs love that agency started by BUSH

  • Cain

    Really it’s four now. A radio host says Cain said some weird stuff to his staff. 

  • http://twitter.com/TommyBennett Tom Bennett

    You are a genius. Guess what. All of this will be coming out to devour Herm over the next few weeks. This is news.

  • Anonymous

    Uh-oh, now a conservative radio host is saying Uncle Herbie was inappropriate to his female staff.

    For those keeping score this is Incident 5.

  • Dummy123

    The ultimate character assassination.
    Say something to defend yourself….say nothing…lose lose for Cain!

  • Anonymous

    When will Herb Cain apologize to Politico like Anthony Weiner did to Breitbart?

  • http://twitter.com/TommyBennett Tom Bennett

    Cain may be a perfectly fine guy, but he has no elective office experience, no understanding of history or foreign policy and his domestic and economic policy ideas are surreal. What he’s doing running for president is beyond understanding. Ah well, I’ll be sorry to see this circus leave town.

  • Anonymous

    5 now….
    3 women
    1 conservative radio host
    1 republican operative.

    lol…and the idiot teabaggers will still blame this on the Left.

  • Anonymous

    ^^^ I nominate for Comment of the Day

  • Moosenuts99

    If you’re having girl problems, I feel bad for you, son

    Cain got 999 problems, but a…

  • Mo Fokker

    When hell freezes over.

  • PrezOworst

    another player.

  • Dayplace

    Was he sexually harassing them or just hitting on them? There is a difference…

  • Ralph

    Why can’t the media report the news as it is breaking. 

    What are the names of the three complainants and what are their histories?

    Why does the media present the news on a carefully designed schedule instead of reporting the news as it occurs?

  • Anonymous

    Cain just released a statement saying he predicted this would happen.

    He’s not half as slick as he thinks he is.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3VUFTUN5223ITCWO7CHS2CI44A David

    Time for Sara to get into the race. I don’t want the laughs to stop.

  • Anonymous

    Does anyone know how the 9/9/9 plan would tax income from sexual harassment lawsuit settlements?

  • Anonymous

    Exceptionally well described. Well done Captain!

  • http://profiles.google.com/fatlibertarianinokc Fat Libertarian

    Progressives hate individual freedom and seek to use government as a weapon against the successful or those they disagree with.  This is why they seek to use government to DEFEND a woman’s right to an abortion but then will use that same government to take away your right to DEFEND YOUR LIFE WITH A GUN.  Both sides have these contradictions if you look at it objectively, which is why I’m libertarian.

  • Sunthenot

    I’m not saying his conduct is appropriate. Especially given the work environment. But come on… victim? OMG a woman asked back home alone by a man or assaulted with sexually explicit language! That’s enough to send any woman to the fainting room.

  • david r

    These women are obviously aware of how Anita Hill’s career took off after her smear of Clarence Thomas.  What do you want to bet they are Democrats?  Maybe they should return the $35K they extorted off the restaurant association as part of the media deal to let them talk.  The media has tons of money to spend on smearing Cain.

  • Anonymous

    Poor Michele where did it all go wrong. Poor Sarah where did it all go wrong. Poor Herman where etc etc etc

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FSPIVAFYI672OH5NOKVRTEZA4U MadCharles

    First Tiger woods now Herman sugar Cain. Before you know it thirty women and maybe a couple of guys will be stomping their way up the court house steps. Why do democrats  hate A A’s ?

  • Tim Tebow

    Toast?

    or

    Crust?

  • Anonymous

    Another day, another Herman Cain victim.

  • lawl

    he’s blaming perry now! this is priceless.

  • Tony

    Even Herman Cain’s advicer is now blaming Rick Perry’s team. But the T-Bags are idiot.

  • Anonymous

    Cue the Oscar’s wrap-it-up music. 

  • Tony

    Obama and Romney are having a beer right now, having good time and laughing at the stupidity of the the uber-conservative GOP.

  • david r

    Cain is about as lame as Palin.  The GOP never fully recovered from Nixon.  Yeah, they won several elections, but the last few decades the religious right seems to have taken over the party.  At first I was glad to see the right concerned with economic issues rather than things like gay marriage. (I mean really, who give a damn?)  Bush spent like a drunk sailor, and Obama pisses away the government’s money trying to buy votes like a banana republic strongman.  I always thought Bill Clinton had a good handle on running the economy.  I miss that aspect of his presidency.  We are dead in the water right now.

  • Tony

    Kenyan-born socialist?? Look this is the reason you’re losing. You waste your time on insults like that. It’s not gonna work. Ok? You’re wasting your time on Obama’s birth certificate while Obama is raising hundreds of millions. Think about that for a minute.

  • Moosenuts99

    True. You don’t normally pay someone a year’s worth salary for just “hitting on”
    Someone.

  • Anonymous

    This latest accusation adds to the volume of the story, if not the depth, as the woman has opted to remain anonymous, and reportedly never filed a complaint against Cain.How does this ‘add’ anything? … it is an anonymous accusation.  I would love to see her interviewed on TV and see how well her story stands up. 

  • david r

    Only in the eye of object of the affection.  If it is unwanted, it is illegal, period. 

  • Anonymous

    Cain’s having a bad week. As much as I give him a hard time, I am actually sympathetic that these more than 10yr old skeletons in the closet are coming out to haunt him. I personally hate these “historical” items tarnishing candidates. Just my opinion and I’m sure I will be flamed by my fellow left-center guys. 

  • Anonymous

    I totally agree. I have never got the “offended by unwanted sexual advance” claim by women. Seriously, a man has to make a move first so that he can know his advance is unwanted. It’s idiotic. He has no telepathic ability to know in advance that his move will be shut down. Now if he keeps doing it after that first time, then yes, it could be construed as sexual harassment. But, we have many women crying wolf after that initial contact (without repetitive attempts) as if they had been drugged, gagged and raped. Sigh.

  • david r

    There is some hem-hawing due to the mutual confidentiality and non-disparagement provisions in the settlement agreements where the women were paid $35 thousand to keep their mouths shut, and Cain in return received their agreement not to sue him for violating federal law prohibiting sex discrimination in the workplace.  Cain has blabbed enough to probably have waived his rights, says Alan Dershowitz.  The media could always agree to pay any damages the women suffer.  They should turn to Howard Stern for advice.  He knows this area real well.

  • http://twitter.com/runforfun54 Ilene K

    Uh, no. They want to set the record straight and make sure the voting public knows the truth. It kills you, doesn’t it, that there have been no such scandals in our President’s past? LMAO! At least it’s now clear that it wasn’t the Dems who leaked this.  Can you imagine what you’d be saying if these ladies were accusing our President!? ” How arrogant for Cain to think he could just ignore these allegations — then continually lie about them. Yeah, that’s the guy I want in the Oval Office.  Ha ha ha ha

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VTR7OAHC55DNHUAFUT6K2IJK2E Lemon Limey

    Clinton managed to sexually ASSAULT that many in a week.

    Al Sharpton managed to forcefully strip that many in a month.

    John Edwards ran out of condoms even though he bought them by the gross.

    Jesse Jackson has more chil’len with the first name Jackson and NOT by his wife than you can shake a fist at.

    John Kerry has a thing for interns.

    Al Gore likes to assault women he hires for massages.

    Obama did drugs including crack & heroin according to his own biography.

    BUT the media is concerned about accusations Cain may have told off color jokes 15 years ago?

  • Anonymous

    I read about that. That’s more of a development than the revelation reported in this article. The guy gives his name and says he witnessed an incident. Of note, he is working for a PAC supporting Rick Perry. How ironic would it be if this “cyber lynching,” as Cain and others on the right have called it, was revealed to have been set in motion by conservatives?

  • lawl

    would you like some cheese with that whine?

  • david r

    You giddy libs are piling on here.  You are only right about the lack of political experience, the lack of education, the lack of knowledge of the issues, and the lack of a coherent plan to govern the country.  You can’t say he lacks morals without hearing out what these “complainants” have to say.  Surely you are not so paternal to think that every woman who claims sexual harassment isn’t doing it to make a buck.  One gal he invited over to his apartment, but couldn’t close the deal.  We don’t know what the other two have to say.  I’ve heard some discussion of a drunken office party.  Well, maybe you are right about lack of restraint, too.  The lack of integrity (my last line of defense) I think is not there.  He is basically honest.  He is just clumsy.  Not a very presidential trait, either.

  • david r

    You are welcome.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VTR7OAHC55DNHUAFUT6K2IJK2E Lemon Limey

    Doesn’t bother you does it?  Your candidates are TRASH just like yo’ momma.

  • Anonymous

    God- just 10 more and he will have to run as a lib Democrat!

  • ceeza

    If you don’t have the creep detector in your own head my man…..chances are you are a creep..  

  • Anonymous

    Does that mean Cain is now changing his tune on right wing racism, since he did describe this as a high tech lynching? What will Rush, Ann, et al. say?

  • ceeza

    crack and heroin?  really ?  cliff yourself..

  • david r

    I has bitching about this in another post.  The GOP used to be much more centrist before the religious right took it over.  Hell, Nixon even had a national health care plan.  Gerald Ford would be a moderate by today’s standards.  There’s a great opinion piece on the CBS site that talks about how civility in politics died with the Bork hearings.  I agree.  The dog-on-a-chain sniping between young libs and conservatives on this site is a perfect example.  No real analysis, just hooray for our side and you all suck.

  • Tony

    Hermie’s gonna be allright. He’s got a new 6969696969 plan.

  • Anonymous

    Came here to kick ass and eat Rice Krispies … and I  all out of Rice Krispies

  • Anonymous

    If you got accused, do not blame Perry, do not blame your opponents, BLAME YOURSELF!

  • Tony

    Even more creepy is the video clip of Cain saying he’s favourite ice cream is
    Black Walnut Ice Cream ”because it always tastes good”

    He really said that. Now it sounds dirty.

  • Moosenuts99

    No, he PAID them. He can run as DAVID VITTER!!!

  • Moosenuts99

    Off-color jokes constitute a settlement of a year’s worth salary?

    If he’s spending money like that, imagine what he’d do in Washington!

    LOL

  • Moosenuts99

    Curious, what’s your statute of limitations on wrongdoings? And does it vacillate depending on deed?

  • Anonymous

    Have you ever been accused of a bullshit sex harassment claim? I know people who have…by vindictive b!tches. I will wait for more concrete evidence before I throw the dude under the bus. I don’t like Cain’s policies at all…but I will be fair and wait and see how it plays out. To be called a sex predator is kinda serious biz dude. Let the women come out and give their side of the story.

  • Anonymous

    “It was the Libruls” has been the cry… Even Cain knows that’s not true! Read this new piece: http://www.forbes.com/sites/richardminiter/2011/11/02/herman-cain-sexual-harassment-leak/

  • Ralph

    What anyone signed has no bearing on the public’s right to know who they are, what they alleged, and whether they are serial complainants.  If a woman signs away her right to speak publicly on a topic for $35,000, then that doesn’t mean public cannot be told who she is.  The public has a compelling interest to know who these accusers are and they alleged and whether they have settled lawsuits at other image-sensitive organizations.  Just as new people are coming forward about Cain, we need to know if other organizations have been sued by the complainants– but the media will not reveal their names.  That’s wrong.

  • ceeza

    Damn champ simmer down… The truth is we will never really know if Cain is guilty or innocent… Think about the Strauss Kahn case.. They crushed the maids credibility and dropped the charges..Does that mean she was lying??  No one could EVER definitively say.. 1 or more women will probably speak out about Cain eventually.. She will be tried publicly, as will he .. They will dig into her past… It will be ugly..People will pick sides.. Yada yada Yada.. No ones going to jail over this but it is mucking up peoples lives tremendously.. The serious issue to me which is completely unrelated is how our judicial system treats eye witness testimony or he said she said cases where jail time is at stake.. Your life literally can be in other peoples hands off simply words sometimes.. That’s scary.. 

  • Bob

    Give the wingnuts time – they’ll true to revise reality to act like Rick Perry and his campaign staff were a bunch of liberals.

  • Pete pitt

    Anybody have any ideas on what kind of gestures? I thinking crotch chops. They were big in the 90s.

  • Anonymous

    Any proof he paid them? Or are you just spewing?

  • http://www.facebook.com/tony.westover Tony Westover

    “This latest accusation adds to the volume of the story, if not the
    depth, as the woman has opted to remain anonymous, and reportedly never
    filed a complaint against Cain.”

    *LOL* How convenient, an anonymous allegation from someone who never filed complaint. Yeah, second hand hearsay is so reliable.

  • Anonymous

    Anonymous sources with no substantiation now get frontpage, up-top headline treatment at Mediaite (and presumably other outlets – which ones… which ones…)

    Yes, we see the effort, Tommy, to be fair.  We see the effort being pushed off the tallest building in (place-name removed) to land smack dab on its face.

  • Anonymous

    Were you even alive during Clinton’s reign?

    ‘Bimbo eruptions’ come with names, faces and horrible hair.

    And did you know the Chinese were developing nuclear carriers? You know, that which he was speaking to when he said China was developing nuclear capability? I doubt that you did.

  • Chrisg

    Actually sane progressives typically support a woman’s right to make her own decisions regarding her own body WITHIN reason, which is why you won’t find many progressives who support abortion in the second or third trimester except under very special circumstances.

    Sane progressives also don’t have a problem with the right to bare arms WITHIN reason (i.e. waiting periods, restrictions against felons or the mentally ill possessing firearms, etc…)

    There’s not much enjoying of “individual freedom” when your brains are splattered on the sidewalk because a kook like Jared Laughner was allowed to buy a high powered assault weapon that has no business being on the streets other than in the hands of trained law enforcement personal.

    But I will grant you that Libertarians are typically the most philosophically consistent.  Which can be both a positive and a negative for your kind.

  • Anonymous

    “Those damn LIBRULS!”

    Overview from the link below:

    Chris Wilson, veteran Republican pollster, former National Restaurant Association employee and current principal in an Oklahoma-based GOP consulting firm said Wednesday that Cain sexually harassed a woman at an Arlington, Va., restaurant in the late 1990s.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/67473.html

  • Anonymous

    Name yet? Anything proven factual yet?

    Just more unproven accusations Tommy? Typical of the lame stream!!!

  • Anonymous

    LMFAO!!!

  • Anonymous

    Say young lady?  Ever heard of the 69-69-69 plan?  Let me brief you at my apartment.

  • david r

    Oh, I agree with what you say.  I was a paid journalist for two years before I went to law school.  The lawyers advising the women are probably concerned about them being sued by the restaurant organization (perhaps funded by someone like the Koch bros).  Maybe a media outlet will agree to indemnify them if they get sued for breaching the agreement.
     

  • Anonymous

    Herman Cain: “I’m a Baptist preacher. A lot of people don’t know that.” — Well, I guess he forgot the biblical teaching that “We reap what we sow.”

    Chris Wilson, veteran Republican pollster, former National Restaurant Association employee and current principal in an Oklahoma-based GOP consulting firm said Wednesday that Cain sexually harassed a woman at an Arlington, Va., restaurant in the late 1990s. — http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/67473.html

  • Anonymous

    Doh!

  • Hugo Daun

    Dude, don’t steal my shit…

  • Hugo Daun

    Dude, don’t steal my shit…

  • Brincar

    First the Cain camp blames Perry(so much for the liberal smear theory..whoops) now the Perry camp blames Romney…this is like the final scene in the movie Reservoir Dogs…circular firing squad.
    Maybe Hoop Shot Palin or Crisco Christie might reconsider now.

  • Anonymous

    I did not…but ok…you have the copyright.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U7T2CX36O4JIYU4QHS6W3GNJAE Eric

    If Cain falls, it’s Romney. Or maybe Perry, on the outside chance. With New Hampshire reasserting their position as first primary in the nation, Romney will win that handily, since NHers tend to like the establishment candidates best (McCain, Dole, etc) Huntsman has absolutely no chance at all. Pat Buchanan had a bigger chance in 1996 and you see how he did.

    I would like to find out who put the Politico on to this story. I’m betting it’s Romney or Perry. But all in all, it seems much ado about nothing. Sexual Harassment law is so confusing and can be abused so easily that just about anyone could be sued for it these days. Clinton did worse before he got the nod and the media brushed it under a rug. Then there was all the crap they made up about Clarence Thomas. If Anita Hill was really the victim of sexual harassment as she claimed, why did she wait until he was appointed a Supreme Court judge? He was the head of the EEOC, for crying out loud. His job was to enforce equality in the job place. If he was such a pig, she should have spoken up then. But she only came forth after it appeared that the Left couldn’t ”bork” Thomas. (villify him in the media to discredit him) 

    Most of the time these sexual harassment cases become a he said/she said thing. In the eyes of the law, the man is innocent until proven guilty. Not so in the court of public opinion. Even making the allegation is damaging to a person’s reputation. Suddenly, you have to remember every detail of your life and whether you might have done something bad once. That’s hard. Especially when confronted with anonymous sources and vague allegations. If the women came forward, would the media do their job and investigate the victims, too? OR would they just parade them around as proof of their claims? (picture worth a 5 or 6 figure payday) People do stupid stuff all the time for attention. And people do make up stuff to get money or fame. That’s the world we live in. Remember the Duke kids? Being a victim shouldn’t give you the benefit of the doubt and being accused shouldn’t mean you are automatically guilty. 

  • Mo Fokker

    There probably won’t be any video of him dropping his pants to show his dick if that is what you mean. There will simply be the claims of multiple individuals.  We kill people based on testimony, so why shouldn’t we pass judgement on Cain based on the testimony, assuming he gives permission to them to talk?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U7T2CX36O4JIYU4QHS6W3GNJAE Eric

    Not only do you have absolutely no evidence of this, you didn’t give a rat’s behind when the story about Dave came out.(Nobody did) But hey, it sounds good and fits the template, so throw it out there. When did someone say they had sex with Cain? So far, it is vague allegations about comments and gestures. Most people, women and men who worked for Cain have said this is baseless and he wouldn’t have done this. People who will identify themselves and go on the the record. Good heavens! Next thing you know, you’ll be accusing him of murder. Or rape.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U7T2CX36O4JIYU4QHS6W3GNJAE Eric

    you got that right, ceeza. you mess with the insiders, you get the business. nobody who isn’t part of the washington establishment will get a fair chance.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U7T2CX36O4JIYU4QHS6W3GNJAE Eric

    if the republican establishment keeps this crap up, I will be joining you very soon on the libertarian side.

  • Anonymous

    Perry is doesn’t control the media that these unattributed, unsourced, unverified, anonymous charges are being given the level of credibility as was not granted Gennifer Flowers.

  • Anonymous

    Cain isn’t ‘having a bad weak;’ he’s being savaged by a media who doesn’t want him on the stage.

  • Anonymous

    I agree….except, is Cain the one that needs to give permission?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U7T2CX36O4JIYU4QHS6W3GNJAE Eric

    lack of education? he was a rocket scientist, for crying out loud. true, he is not a policy wonk. he doesn’t know the ins and outs of every foreign policy issue, but he is FAR from stupid. keep your ignorance to yourself. why is political experience so highly touted? the longer you are in Washington, the more corrupted you become. our country is 16 trillion in the hole! “highly experienced” politicans from both parties got us into this mess. and none of them will take responsibilty for their actions. they just blame the other side. so why not get some fresh blood? and Cain has a plan. it’s just not socialism, so you don’t like it. even after the miserable failure of past socialistic governments around the world, and the success of free markets and free enterprise, the Dems keep pushing us down that road. and the lack of restraint and integrity you are referring to is based off unproven allegations. you liberals want to discredit him so badly, you will believe anything you are told.

  • Anonymous

    I love that avatar of Michele my bell…..I’m glad you like it too!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U7T2CX36O4JIYU4QHS6W3GNJAE Eric

    the man has a college education! and back when that actually meant something. (unlike today) Cain’s resume is vastly superior to the man currently in the oval office. if Obama was a republican, he would have been discredited before the first primary in 2008. without the media on his side, Obama would have been crushed by Senator Clinton. he is terrible on the cuff, without prepared comments or his teleprompter. not as bad as Biden, but still pretty bad.

    true, Cain has a folksy style that leaves some people with an impression that he is not sophisticated, but he is not dumb or uneducated. he just doesn’t put on airs or look down on people like Obama does. and some of us like that. 

  • Anonymous

    Nobody would harrass a fat libertarian. Back to wishing with one hand

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U7T2CX36O4JIYU4QHS6W3GNJAE Eric

    the settlement you are referring to was a termination settlement, not a legal settlement. it is not an omission of guilt. it happens all the time in business. rather than drag this thing out in a court and be vindicated, all the while suffering under a cloud of suspion and bad press, and rack up millions in legal fees to defend yourself against a he said/she said sort of thing, they throw a little money at the problem and make it go away. the confidentiality agreement means they won’t have to deal with this again. when you fight these kinds of things all the way, the only ones who win are the lawyers.  

  • http://twitter.com/runforfun54 Ilene K

    Oh really?  The first woman just said she’s not going public. You called our President “arrogant” because he deigned to think he could get the GOP and DEms to work together. But THIS is the height or arrogance and hubris.  

  • Norbit

    “as the woman has opted to remain anonymous, and reportedly never filed a complaint against Cain.”

    So, in other words…another Associated Press INNUENDO SMEAR PIECE against a Republican!

    Spread the word, and SMEAR the REPUTATION of the calculatedly dishonest Media!

  • Norbit

    I think you’re responding to the wrong post.

  • Anonymous

    No vacillating here. There should be no statue of limitations on capital offenses. You can add stuff like rape on there, and other uncouth/vicious crimes against people such as kidnapping, torture etc. However, isn’t your premise a little misleading? It presumes the matter was not “settled” — either in or out of court.

  • Anonymous

    No…he’s being savaged because he’s a Presidential candidate. It has been happening since like…forever.  Maybe you should read what happened to Andrew Jackson in the 1820s. Like Roland Martin said, it’s “big boy” politics. Quit y’er kvetching…will ya?

  • Anonymous

    I’m calm. I’m always smiling when I post. I agree with the finer points of your post.

  • Anonymous

    You don’t want a president that maybe, just maybe knows a little more about policy than the average guy? China’s been at that for years,.. you don’t have to be bright to know that!

  • Anonymous

    I agree with this…shockingly, but I wouldn’t say Cain has a lack of education. He’s very educated! Political inexperience and his naivete on how politics works is his Achilles heel.

  • Anonymous

    Lying and cover-up are great morals!

  • Anonymous

    So what would you have rather had him say in response to the question, given that you won’t go down the road some have to interpret his quote incorrectly?  The latter part, the mis-interpretation, is what I’m combating.  Yet you seem to think the quote in context was lacking even so.  For a lightning round sort of answer, it seemed reasonable to me.  China’s growing naval power should become a matter of great concern as they’re already bullying our allies with fishing boats.

  • Anonymous

    An explosion of anonymous sexual allegations without face or form given front page treatment and quotes taken out of context in rapid succession to build a unfair narrative is more than the usual fare.  Is it the worst an American politician has faced?  Hell no.  We’ve gunned some down.  We’ll see where it goes.  But it is concerted.

    Where is Roland anyway?  He’s posted here a couple times.  He never proved to me in our discussion how Anders Breivik was a terrorist with Christianity as his motivation and not simply a cultural supremacist instead and in no way comparable to systemic Islamic terror.  Too busy playing in the big boy pond to be shown up by a mediaite poster, I guess.

  • Anonymous

    You “teas’ have a habit of tearing down educated, very effective foreign policy leaders and denial of any victory. At the same time forgiving the uninformed weakness of your leaders, who don’t preform well at press time, spin facts, can’t remember history and don’t know their numbers! I don’t think he’s that bad, but there is nothing there to hold up for. “Cain” needs to talk to “Beck” he’s been crying about China for some time and and reference isn’t fishing boats!

  • Anonymous

    That’s true. I got charged with sexual harassment once when I refused to reciprocate a female co-worker’s sexual advances. It’s hard out here for a pimp.

  • Anonymous

    I’m satisfied to put up the foreign policy results of conservative leaning Republicans up against progressive foreign policy results any day of the week (excepting the Bush’s, who were neoconservative republicans – or progressive lites – just as much into nation-building and foreign enterprising as most Dems).

    You’ve yet to explain how you view Cain’s answer as somehow lacking.

  • Anonymous

    Paleoconservaarian,

    If you don’t count the most recent terms and candidates,…. that was the point! “How was his  answer lacking”? A “tea” has to discount all facts. This wastes time but,… in short, he didn’t seem to understand the history of the tests! If he mis-spoke, fine, don’t pass off knowledge on the subject then switch up. He already stated he didn’t know many leaders of countries, but lack of knowledge doesn’t seem to matter to “teas”! He seems to be a friendly person, good at business,… past that “nothing”!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UYNIZM43ZOTYHOEKGL7Q5PTT4I Ultrabrut1

    Is Herman Cain Clarence Thomas’s stunt double? Hey! Who put those pubic hairs on “Long Dong” Cain’s pizza?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UYNIZM43ZOTYHOEKGL7Q5PTT4I Ultrabrut1

    …..But what about the “Bjork” hearings?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UYNIZM43ZOTYHOEKGL7Q5PTT4I Ultrabrut1

    Sound like to me, Cain’s workin’ on some T&A!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UYNIZM43ZOTYHOEKGL7Q5PTT4I Ultrabrut1

    Putos!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UYNIZM43ZOTYHOEKGL7Q5PTT4I Ultrabrut1

    …I wish I had a shagshack!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UYNIZM43ZOTYHOEKGL7Q5PTT4I Ultrabrut1

    Is it wrong Sarah Palin gives me a boner?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UYNIZM43ZOTYHOEKGL7Q5PTT4I Ultrabrut1

    He IS the delivery driver!

  • Bob

    once…twice..three times a sexual harasser.

  • Bob

    Bachmann probably thinks the U.S. needs to come to the aid of Nicholas II as soon as possible.

  • Anonymous

    Assault
    on seven women are documented in the house judicary committee report.
    They range from caressing to force by Bill Clinton. The press attack
    these women with a viciousness that is equal to the viciousness of the
    attacks by the Texas Chainsaw killers. The liberals press said they were
    liars, trailer house trash.Instead of attacking the criminal acts of
    President Clinton they blamed the women for being assaulted.

    Paula
    Jones,Monica Lewinsky Kathleen Willey’s,Broaddrick, an unknown lawyer
    in little rock whose husband threaten to kill Clinton if he touch his
    wife again,

    :Not every accusation of sexual abuse by Clinton is
    quite so frightening. Still, Christine Zercher’s encounter with
    then-candidate Clinton was scary enough to her. In 1992, Zercher was a
    stewardess aboard Clinton’s campaign plane, Longhorn One. By all
    accounts, a party atmosphere prevailed as Clinton continually flirted
    with the all-blond flight attendant cadre.

    A recently broadcast
    ABC News video showed Clinton snuggled next to Zercher’s co-worker,
    Debra Schiff, as the two exchanged affectionate touches. Of course, when
    Mrs. Clinton was aboard, all such shenanigans were put on hold.

    But
    while flight attendant Schiff may have been receptive to Clinton’s
    advances, Zercher recounted an episode to Star magazine last March that
    left her paralyzed with fear. For forty minutes late one airborne night,
    Zercher sat frozen after Clinton awoke, plunked himself down next to
    her, and casually began caressing her breasts as Mrs. Clinton slept all
    the while just feet away”{1}

    Cain story is a non story by a media
    that has no credibility. They let Bill get away with the vilest of
    crimes against women and still praise him. Libera, biased ,lying media
    attack dogs.These women have had their fifteen minutes now lets move on
    and drop this smear campaign by a discredited media. AP equals Always Prevaricatiing

    Information for this post was taken from:
    by Carl Limbacher
    Re-printed with permission at Rightgrrl
    Originally published at NewsMax
    October 26, 1998

  • Anonymous

    The ladies involved are extortionist. Corporations settle cases because
    its cheaper than litigation. I am totally against a company throwing a
    manager under the bus and paying off criminals. If the women had a case
    they should have first went to the company, If the company found there
    was no credible as they did in this case, that should have been the end
    of it. The next step was the state agencies, if the women were not
    satisfied then EEOC not run to some bottom feeder lawyer to extort money
    to make it go away. The courts are there for justice and when one
    settles without a trial then justice is not severed.

    Let it play
    out in court if it is legitimate and sexual abuse occurred then punish
    the manager to the fullest extent of the law. If the women are guilty of
    extortion then counter charge them and have them serve time in jail.
    What did the press call Bills Bimbos, Oh I remember trailer house trash.

    Title VII of the Civil Rights Act (Title VII) charges must be
    filed with EEOC within 180 days of the alleged discriminatory act.
    However, in states or localities where there is an antidiscrimination
    law and an agency authorized to grant or seek relief, a charge must be
    presented to that state or local agency. Furthermore, in such
    jurisdictions, you may file charges with EEOC within 300 days of the
    discriminatory act, or 30 days after receiving notice that the state or
    local agency has terminated its processing of the charge, whichever is
    earlier. It is best to contact EEOC promptly when discrimination is
    suspected. When charges or complaints are filed beyond these time
    frames, you may not be able to obtain any remedy.

    Was a state
    agency called in? what about EEOC, probably not, just extorted money and
    went on their way. Now they smell cash so their evil head appears to
    try to ruin a good man a second time. A woman’s case will be expatiated
    and push to the limit to hang a company. Innocence or guilt is not a
    consideration.

    I not not put much faith in the charges. It seems
    an attempt to smear a good man by the elitists in Washington. Cain
    2012, Newt 2012. Why did not some vet Obama?

  • Anonymous

    Is this still a plot by the left because conservative’s blacks are better?

  • Anonymous

    Three times and you’ve got see smell a pattern.

  • Anonymous

    Read the ninth Commandment. No identity equals no credibility.

  • Anonymous

    If you give that money to me I’ll be glad to flush it down the toilet for ya.

  • Anonymous

    Was Letterman running for the office of POTUS?  Did I miss something?

  • Anonymous

    not surprisingly, another lousy job report that there is not real recovery, and the unemployment rate isn’t going to get any better anytime soon.

  • Anonymous

    occupy protesters getting violent  http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57317465/occupy-protests-go-from-peace-to-chaos/?tag=cbsContent;cbsCarousel

    and the economy has no recovery in sight.  besides that, the democrats are doing just fine.

    Seriously, though, denial is not a healthy coping strategy.  

  • Anonymous

    the problem is that when you don’t do something wrong and you’re accused of it, what more can you say but ‘it’s not true.

    Only the liars like the Bill Clintons and the Jon Edwards and the Weiner’s have a strategy to cope with the media questions about their transgressions.  Guilty people have an answer, truthful people can only tell you its false.

  • Anonymous

    guilty people have answers prepared.  When you’re truthful, you can only say it’s not true. I find the timing and the lack of names and details incredibly suspicious.   Just as likely to be GOP establishment as anyone else too. 

    Cain should just use it to raise money and wait for the people to ‘come forward’.   The political storm isn’t fun, but can seriously raise money if you play it as being the establishment against the outsider looking to clean out the crony capitalism. Billions of tax loopholes and sweat deals could be gutted out by a fair tax system.

  • http://mediamatters.org/ Leedog

    When women keep stepping forward stating you sexual harassed them and implying you’re a pervert, don’t blame the victims… “Blame Yourself”!!

    Herb Cain… you are done because Perry just sank your battleship!! Game Over!!

  • http://twitter.com/maynardbrainard Jeremy Brainard

    Or you could just blame the liberals, ’cause, you know… they’re all liberal and stuff, and want to eliminate the chances of a weak presidential candidate from running and losing against the incumbent president.  Makes sense.

    Isn’t that right, Dittoheads?

  • http://twitter.com/maynardbrainard Jeremy Brainard

    Yep.  He needs to worry more about alienating his base than what the left thinks at this point.  I couldn’t care less.  I just think it’s interesting to see the circus that’s unfolded.

  • Anonymous

    f you don’t count the most recent terms and candidates,…. that was the point!

    Perhaps you ought to look at my handle before you assume I’ll sit here and defend Bush.  But the Bush’s aren’t the sum total of conservatism; in fact, they’re not much representative of it at all, though for a good many years they played one on T.V.  They represent a very narrow sector of eastern establishment Republicanism; one which often works hand in hand with eastern establishment Democrats in what some term the plutocracy.  A not terribly correct term, but useful on occasion.

    in short, [Cain] didn’t seem to understand the history of [China's nuclear] tests.

    No, as I showed above, he wasn’t unsure.  I thought you weren’t going to go down that road.  Cain said China was developing a nuclear capability in an attempt to compete with our brand of supper-carriers.  That’s what they’re doing.  Maybe you should watch the clip again.

    If he mis-spoke, fine,. . .

    He didn’t misspeak – half his words were taken neatly out of out of a sentence and presented to make him look the fool – probably (initially) because people of the press aren’t all that smart as many make them out to be (do you suppose they’re experts on every aspect of human endeavors on which they have to report?) – but, after more than an hour or two, clearly and certainly because they’re not inclined to divert from their “stupid conservative black man” narrative.

  • Anonymous

    “Maybe you should watch the clip again”? Yes you should! I guess you feel if you keep saying this enough, the words will change . It’s clear, there is going to be a twist, spin and different meaning by you,… other than what some of even your “conservatves” sight as a misspeak! You’re giving “Cain” a wide, wide range to salvage a clear slip. Who cares,… why can’t you get past this? If you’re “one of those guys” that has to be right “ok” you win,… are we done? What continues to sound very silly in contrast,… is that the media are not too bright, compared to “Cain”, compared to “Cain”. I’ll give you some aren’t that sharp like the hates on “Fox” but then where does that put “Cain”?

  • Anonymous

    We’re done when you see how wrong you are.  I’m one of those guys (hehe).  Seriously, though, I’ll not approach it from the traditional angle this time.  Something else you wrote is worth examination.

    As to your snarky defense of reporters as being especially smart (or only, stupidly, those who aren’t on Fox – I’ll give you credit to say that’s beneath you).  Now there’s an interesting concept.  Just a tad of celebrity worship combined with a dash of leadership principle and you’ve allowed your incredulity to dissapear.  Why should you suppose that a reporter is knowledgeable on all the thing on which they have to report?  They’re versed in none of those things.  They’re trained in writing or communication skills and in the process of eliciting from people statements which are then presented to consumers of information after they construct articles (video presentations, whathaveyou) through the prism of their own particular worldview.  At no point in that process is it required of them to know the material of which they report.  Helpful, but not a necessity.

    Take the Cain quote in question, for example.  Frances Martel is an expert on military matters to know that China is building nuclear-powered carriers?  I say no, she (and many others) got the story flat wrong because they went off someone else’s cue.  This is the conceit of the press-room, birth place of narrative.  “Did you hear what dumb thing Cain said?” one guy with a poor impression of him and a mis-interpretation of the quote might say to others in his orbit (fellow reporters).  And so the narrative takes steam.  The more pernicious example of this would be Journ-O-list, a group of Obama supporting media folk who purposely constructed from behind the shadows pro-Obama narratives and attacks on those who would oppose him.  Or those other partisan types (both sides have them) who simply get the morning talking point lists produced by politicos and think tanks and go from there.

    But lets say its not purposeful.  Even if you say yes, Francis knows about China’s naval ambitions, and obviously Cain spoke in the manner in which she reported, what’s the next story going to be about.  Campaign finances, say.  Is she an expert on campaign law too to wade through minutia?  Follow that with a story on the economy.  Suddenly she’s an expert on unemployment and how that affects the GAO’s estimation of what our GDP will be next year or what that all has to do about Rick Perry?  How many times do I have to draw out examples for you to start getting it?

    Now in a neutral environment, without politics in play, an incorrect interpretation would rapidly be corrected… because that’s just what people do, right?  They own up to their mistakes right pronto and make sure you know about them.  Nah even I can’t pull off that statement with a straight face.  But anyway here we are on Mediaite, known left-leaning cesspool.  The article once read thus: “Herman Cain Worried About China ‘Develop[ing] Nuclear Capability,’ Despite 50-Year Nuclear Program”  After complaints by me and another, it read thus ‘Herman Cain Seems To Reveal That He Was Unaware Of China’s Nuclear Capability’ – quite the step back – and more importantly, was changed from straight news to commentary; a realm of opinion journalism which isn’t responsible to the same rules of correction.

    So now it’s Francis Martel’s words all by themselves and the hope – frankly the expectation – that you won’t pick up on her piss poor journalism.  Perhaps the reason is because you have an inordinate respect for journalists (but only those who doesn’t get money from Fox).  Perhaps its simply because you don’t like Herman Cain.  Why?  Well, because he’s dumb.  After all, the media said so.  Perhaps it won’t matter much in the near future anyway if Cain collapses and everyone will forget about it.  Ain’t that the hope around here anyway?

  • Anonymous

    “We’re done when you see how wrong you are”!? The first time I recall pharsing as such, was about the second grade! To stop silliness such as this, I said you win, to stop this “joke”! This isn’t going to get strange is it? Lets shorten this. You hate Obama (got it), you believe any half truth talking points “Fox” orders,…ok. Reporters are dumb “Cain” is really really smart and the spin goes on. Just promise one thing, please please don’t drop “Cain” as your candidate. Wow, you’re right and if you really believe that, it would be strange if this is continued! “Cain” 2012!

  • Anonymous

    That’s why it was a joke to phrase it that way.  Sorry if you don’t want to get it.  But more to the point, a political debate isn’t going to end when one says “enough already!  I don’t want to hear it!”  I don’t require you to accept my worldview, but that’s not going to stop me from presenting them; especially if they continue to be challenged.  Even with sarcasm or dismissal.  2nd grade stuff?  No. That’s the nature of debate; else what are we doing.  Posting at each other our disdain for the other’s held political beliefs?  How lame is that?

    BTW, you should know – and it might surprise you to learn – that I’m not a Cain supporter.

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