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Bristol Palin: ‘I’m Not Accusing Levi Of Date Rape By Any Means’

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You may be aware that there has been one persistent question surrounding a passage of Bristol Palin‘s new memoir wherein she describes her first ever sexual encounter, with then-boyfriend Levi Johnston, as being fueled by too many wine coolers. Was this young woman, people wanted to know, raped? Was she coerced into having sex? Could she have said no if she wanted to?

Palin is addressing those concerns, telling USA Today that the drunken encounter was “a dumb decision,” and sharing that she had agreed to it with the hope that she and Johnston would one day marry:

I’m not accusing Levi of date rape by any means. I’m just honestly looking back on it with the eyes of an adult. That was five years ago, and I’m realizing that it was a dumb decision.

She also offers a revealing glimpse into the new career that ultimately stemmed from her decision to have premarital sex with Johnston – that of the poster girl for abstinence:

I hate the word abstinence. My mom knows I hate that word, everyone knows I hate that word. People think that I’m just “abstinence only, do not have sex.” No. If you’re going to have sex, practice safe sex. But the best option to prevent teen pregnancy is to not have sex.

Of course, simply because Palin now describes that first encounter as a “decision” and not rape does not necessarily mean Alaska statutes concerning sexual offenses agree that she was capable and legally able of giving her consent.

Take a look at video from Palin’s USA Today interview:

Thank you to reader Cory for the tip.

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  • Just my Opinion

    UH. OHH! Brace yourself Bristol. We got a couple old men here that
    just love to attack the Palin Family.
    They will be getting their jolly’s all day over your latest statement.
    One of them thinks he is really cute by referring to you as Brisket.
    AWWWWWW

  • Just my Opinion

    oops! Apologize for term brace yourself.
    I gave the old turds ammunition inadvertently!
    I just meant, watch!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dronetek-Bulk-Vanderhuge/100000918732763 Dronetek

    Picking on kids is A-OK IF:

    1. You’re a liberal
    2. The target is the child of a conservative

  • The Lantern of Truth

    The classy liberal icon , Maher is always interested :

    Bill Maher to …Stanley Ann Dunham… : ” Just admit it , you were horny ”

    Is that what he said ?

    Robert Stephenson’s special friend BFD has learned well at his knee :

    BFD says :

    June 26 , 2011 at 4:58 am

    Bristol should never be lumped in with the Obama kids … unless of course they become reality stars in their own right and cash in on spreading their legs .

  • david r

    Not really interested in Bristol’s book, but I know there are a lot of young girls who are. I hope she develops some skills to live independently the rest of her life. When the money runs out.

  • seek

    A pretty girl. A nice attitude. Good for her.

  • Just4thefax

    Fact: This Bristol story is just for bottom feeder want to be a writer kind of article. Reads like someone with a perverted view of the story.

  • Just4thefax

    Fact: Thank you to reader Cory for the tip. Pathedic person here!

  • seek

    I’m sure that as of right this moment, there is some doofus sitting in Alaska trying to drum up a charge against Levi so that they can rake Bristol over the coals. You bet your sweet bippi that is happening.

  • errxn

    Just my Opinion said:
    One of them thinks he is really cute by referring to you as Brisket.
    AWWWWWW

    Who? You mean the Real Royal Avon Lady?

    https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=663097237&sk=wall

  • The Lantern of Truth

    errxn said:
    Who? You mean the Real Royal Avon Lady? https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=663097237&sk=wall

    He and BFD still working on their own line of makeup .
    Just selling AVON in the meantime .

    About Robert I live in Austin TX. I fight hard every day for equal right for EVERY AMERICAN, Health care for EVERY AMERICAN, Climate change for a better healthier future ETC.

  • Sanders Youth

    Holy shit who is that person? That is Bristol Palin? She looks like Snookie now!

  • Sanders Youth

    Dronetek said:
    Picking on kids is A-OK IF:

    1. You’re a liberal
    2. The target is the child of a conservative

    She is 20 and puts herself out there, she wrote a memoir, leave it to the Freepers to go after Sasha and Malia.

  • mikey970

    can we please stop following this train wreck??????????????

  • Sanders Youth

    Lest we forget

    Freepers Racially Slur Obama Daughter
    Bob Parks: Black & Right ^ | 6/12/09 | Bob Parks

    Posted on Sunday, July 12, 2009 5:35:20 PM by bocopar

    Bill O’Reilly has called Free Republic a hate site and he may now have some ammunition to back up that assertion.

    “A typical street whore.” “A bunch of ghetto thugs.” “Ghetto street trash.” “Wonder when she will get her first abortion.”

    These are a small selection of some of the racially-charged comments posted to the conservative ‘Free Republic’ blog Thursday, aimed at U.S. President Barack Obama’s 11-year-old daughter Malia after she was photographed wearing a t-shirt with a peace sign on the front.

    The thread was accompanied by a photo of Michelle Obama speaking to Malia that featured the caption, “To entertain her daughter, Michelle Obama loves to make monkey sounds.”

    At a time when the administration is seeking any reason to squelch any speech it deems “hate”, as well as the entities where that speech may be found, what the hell were these people thinking?

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2291081/posts?page=266

  • Republitarian

    Why?

    That’s the only thing that comes into my head when I hear the words “Bristol Palin”. And, I hear “why” in this context – “Why is she famous?, Why is she penning a memoir? And, would anyone care about a memoir written by a 20-year old girl?

    I guess it’s not really Bristol’s fault. If there’s money to be made, then make it. I’m all for free markets. But, I think this phenomena says more about us – societally – than it does about the people who enjoy this new kind of celebrity. Are we so shallow, so vapid and so juvenile that we would collectively care about the likes of Bristol, or the Kardashians, or the Hiltons or the entire cast of the Jersey Shore?

    And to be even handed about it, there are plenty of bubble-headed imbeciles that inhabit the left that I also don’t want to hear from, and can’t understand why anyone was would either. Who cares what George Clooney, or Whoopi Goldberg think about complicated political topics? In 2008, we elected a man in his 40s who felt compelled to pen not one autobiography, but TWO autobiographies before reaching the age of 45. Again, WHY?

    240-years ago, our “celebrities” were the men who founded this country – men of tremendous accomplishment who possessed towering intellects. Now, we get to hear the musings of a girl who I’m not even sure graduated from high school, let alone college. The cult of these celebutards doesn’t bode well for the country moving forward.

  • lillyluminatus

    Dronetek said:
    Picking on kids is A-OK IF:

    1. You’re a liberal
    2. The target is the child of a conservative

    3. If the target chooses to right a “memoir” at the age of 20, thus literally demanding that people scrutinize her personal life.

  • George C

    Sanders Youth said:
    Lest we forget
    Freepers Racially Slur Obama Daughter
    Bob Parks: Black & Right ^ | 6/12/09 | Bob Parks
    Posted on Sunday, July 12, 2009 5:35:20 PM by bocopar
    Bill O’Reilly has called Free Republic a hate site and he may now have some ammunition to back up that assertion.

    What what what ? Anonymous bloggers say stupid things ? I’m shocked . ” Shocked ” , I say .

  • Sanders Youth

    George C said:
    What what what ? Anonymous bloggers say stupid things ? I’m shocked . ” Shocked ” , I say .

    Then maybe you should stop trying to claim some sort of invented morality on here with people taking pot shots at a 20 year old mother.

  • George C

    Sanders Youth said:
    Then maybe you should stop trying to claim some sort of invented morality on here with people taking pot shots at a 20 year old mother.

    I’m sorry . What did I say that has offended you so ? I was simply responding to your obsfucation . Was I wrong ?

  • david r

    Sanders Youth said:
    Lest we forget

    Freepers Racially Slur Obama Daughter
    Bob Parks: Black & Right ^ | 6/12/09 | Bob Parks

    Posted on Sunday, July 12, 2009 5:35:20 PM by bocopar

    Bill O’Reilly has called Free Republic a hate site and he may now have some ammunition to back up that assertion.

    “A typical street whore.” “A bunch of ghetto thugs.” “Ghetto street trash.” “Wonder when she will get her first abortion.”

    These are a small selection of some of the racially-charged comments posted to the conservative ‘Free Republic’ blog Thursday, aimed at U.S. President Barack Obama’s 11-year-old daughter Malia after she was photographed wearing a t-shirt with a peace sign on the front.

    The thread was accompanied by a photo of Michelle Obama speaking to Malia that featured the caption, “To entertain her daughter, Michelle Obama loves to make monkey sounds.”

    At a time when the administration is seeking any reason to squelch any speech it deems “hate”, as well as the entities where that speech may be found, what the hell were these people thinking?

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2291081/posts?page=266

    Just stay away from those sites and don’t bring those filthy links here. Two wrongs do not equal a right. I have not supported the President and hope he only has one term, but his wife and children are as charming and beautiful as any we’ve had in the WH. Let kids be kids. When they start writing books, they are fair game to those who want to comment. The rest is personal tastes.

  • Sanders Youth

    david r said:
    Just stay away from those sites and don’t bring those filthy links here. Two wrongs do not equal a right. I have not supported the President and hope he only has one term, but his wife and children are as charming and beautiful as any we’ve had in the WH. Let kids be kids. When they start writing books, they are fair game to those who want to comment. The rest is personal tastes.

    Just preventing anyone from claiming moral superiority based on what side goes after politicians children, the point is that Bristol isn’t a child she is a grown woman who has written a book and should expect the slings and arrows that come with celebrity, Sasha and Malia are children but that didn’t stop one of the most visible Con websites from taking disgusting potshots at children. Just want to put it in perspective for ya. You can claim you aren’t a Freeper, and you may not be, but I can almost guarantee you there are some that post here.

  • seek

    Sanders Youth said:
    Just preventing anyone from claiming moral superiority based on what side goes after politicians children, the point is that Bristol isn’t a child she is a grown woman who has written a book and should expect the slings and arrows that come with celebrity, Sasha and Malia are children but that didn’t stop one of the most visible Con websites from taking disgusting potshots at children. Just want to put it in perspective for ya. You can claim you aren’t a Freeper, and you may not be, but I can almost guarantee you there are some that post here.

    You have no idea who posted those horrid comments. Ever think they were “plants”? Poison ivy comes to mind.

  • lane

    Dronetek said:
    Picking on kids is A-OK IF:

    1. You’re a liberal
    2. The target is the child of a conservative

    You forgot #3 you have no moral compass and decency.

    Kids are kids, they make dumb mistakes. We protect them, we don’t attack them for kids. If your instinct with any child is to attack rather than protect, your moral compass is damaged. Big time.

  • Greg

    It is certainly difficult to be a young mother, even under the best of circumstances… I wish her and her son only the best….

    @David R
    I truly respect your stance on this and thank you for being quite consistent and rhetorically strong for what is most clearly right.

  • OxyCon

    Anyone who was sexually active in high school knows that alcohol is usually involved. It helps with lowering inhibitions and anxiety over a first sexual encounter. Big deal. Amazing that leftists would have a problem with this.

    Also, I do not like the chin one bit. Whoever talked her into that should have their doctor’s license revoked. Bristol was fine the way she was born and was lucky that good looks runs in the family.

  • donalan

    The Right is good the Left is bad. Hate half your countrymen.

    Its getting so old…

    This woman is cashing in on Media hype – good for her. How bout some real news?

  • lobodons

    Bristol to Levi: I am not exactly accusing you of date rape even though that is what I insinuaded in my book, and I know I can’t get my virginity back that you stole, but damit, give me my chin back.

  • david r

    Sanders Youth said:
    Just preventing anyone from claiming moral superiority based on what side goes after politicians children, the point is that Bristol isn’t a child she is a grown woman who has written a book and should expect the slings and arrows that come with celebrity, Sasha and Malia are children but that didn’t stop one of the most visible Con websites from taking disgusting potshots at children. Just want to put it in perspective for ya. You can claim you aren’t a Freeper, and you may not be, but I can almost guarantee you there are some that post here.

    I don’t think you have many worries about moral superiority among this bunch of cutthroats. I had to look up “Freeper.” Yeah, there are some who post here. Some people out on the other fringe, too. I agree Bristol is fair game for comment. Once you start writing books, you have to expect people to comment. I imagine she’ll make money off of it. Since my youth, I have never felt so “right” about politics that I hate the other side. Back then, though, I sure did. But from working in and with the federal government, I have a pretty pessimistic view that government can accomplish much at all.

  • Bill Huggins

    So, “her” baby is going to feel REAL GOOD when he reads in her book that he was a DRUNKEN MISTAKE

    STAY CLASSY PALINS

  • Pablo

    Sanders Youth said:
    Lest we forget

    Freepers Racially Slur Obama Daughter
    Bob Parks: Black & Right ^ | 6/12/09 | Bob Parks

    Posted on Sunday, July 12, 2009 5:35:20 PM by bocopar

    Bill O’Reilly has called Free Republic a hate site and he may now have some ammunition to back up that assertion.

    “A typical street whore.” “A bunch of ghetto thugs.” “Ghetto street trash.” “Wonder when she will get her first abortion.”

    These are a small selection of some of the racially-charged comments posted to the conservative ‘Free Republic’ blog Thursday, aimed at U.S. President Barack Obama’s 11-year-old daughter Malia after she was photographed wearing a t-shirt with a peace sign on the front.

    The thread was accompanied by a photo of Michelle Obama speaking to Malia that featured the caption, “To entertain her daughter, Michelle Obama loves to make monkey sounds.”

    At a time when the administration is seeking any reason to squelch any speech it deems “hate”, as well as the entities where that speech may be found, what the hell were these people thinking?

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2291081/posts?page=266

    First, if I were you, I wouldn’t be trying to ascribe the words of internet commenters to a larger group. doing so, based on your comments alone would require that the entire left be instituionalized, restrained and medicated immediately. Secondly, how are those comments racially charged? Are street whores all one color? Are ghettos all one color? Listen, the girls will get their first abortions as soon as they make a mistake. You wouldn’t want to punish them, would you?

  • Ajolily

    david r said:
    I agree Bristol is fair game for comment. Once you start writing books, you have to expect people to comment. I imagine she’ll make money off of it.

    Several people make this statement. While it is true that writing the book and being on DWTS has made her fair game now, I would ask what made her fair game before for the vicious attacks. She is still being attacked by many just because she is Palins daughter. But she is also loved by many because she is Palins daughter and shown herself to be a lovely young lady who made mistakes and is brave enough to admit it and live her life to the fullest and not hide. She is making lemonade our of the lemons in her life. What was it she told her mother. “They are going to say those things anyway so I might as well dance.“ I admire her and her mother. Her parents should be very proud of her.

  • Sanders Youth

    david r said:
    I don’t think you have many worries about moral superiority among this bunch of cutthroats. I had to look up “Freeper.” Yeah, there are some who post here. Some people out on the other fringe, too. I agree Bristol is fair game for comment. Once you start writing books, you have to expect people to comment. I imagine she’ll make money off of it. Since my youth, I have never felt so “right” about politics that I hate the other side. Back then, though, I sure did. But from working in and with the federal government, I have a pretty pessimistic view that government can accomplish much at all.

    Me neither I tried to make the point the other day that, chances are if I spoke with someone on the right one on one we would have much more in common than the powers that be in Washington that both sides seem to want to defend constantly. I am an independent (left leaning), but honestly both Democrats and Republicans are wrong most of the time. I have seen the same kind of hate and vitriol on Democratic Underground that I have seen on Free Republic, two sides of the same coin, and completely meaningless.

  • Sanders Youth

    david r said:
    Thumb down

    And honestly if Bristol can make a fat paycheck then the more power to her, she is definitely getting over on a lot of people to be a spokeswoman for abstinence and having a child out of wedlock in her teens. Sometimes you just gotta shake your head and say “only in America”.

  • lane

    Another day,

    Bill Huggins said:
    So, “her” baby is going to feel REAL GOOD when he reads in her book that he was a DRUNKEN MISTAKE STAY CLASSY PALINS

    Her child is being brought up in a stable, loving home. Do you think Obama’s kids will read his book and worry their dad did drugs? Of course not. They’ll be glad he learned and grew into a good father.

    She’s a good kid, her parents did a great job. I applaud her decision to keep and raise her child, she’s lucky her parents are willing to do so much to support her. Classy indeed!

  • Sanders Youth

    Pablo said:
    First, if I were you, I wouldn’t be trying to ascribe the words of internet commenters to a larger group. doing so, based on your comments alone would require that the entire left be instituionalized, restrained and medicated immediately. Secondly, how are those comments racially charged? Are street whores all one color? Are ghettos all one color? Listen, the girls will get their first abortions as soon as they make a mistake. You wouldn’t want to punish them, would you?

    Yeah but you aren’t me son, never will be.

  • WCinWI

    Alex -

    How is this a media story? It looks like a Palin story. What’s the media angle? Not enough hits on the site?

  • Ajolily

    Bill Huggins said:
    So, “her” baby is going to feel REAL GOOD when he reads in her book that he was a DRUNKEN MISTAKE STAY CLASSY PALINS

    Perhaps he will think, Wow if the liberals had it their way I would have been killed. Thanks Mom, I love you for having the courage to love me enough to keep me even though you didn’t plan for me.

  • WCinWI

    OxyCon said:
    Anyone who was sexually active in high school knows that alcohol is usually involved. It helps with lowering inhibitions and anxiety over a first sexual encounter. Big deal. Amazing that leftists would have a problem with this.

    Also, I do not like the chin one bit. Whoever talked her into that should have their doctor’s license revoked. Bristol was fine the way she was born and was lucky that good looks runs in the family.

    What next? People have problems with frat parties serving Natty Light and Jungle Juice? Ok libs. Have at it. Force colleges to not serve alcohol to underage kids. I’ll wait for this.

  • david r

    Sanders Youth said:
    And honestly if Bristol can make a fat paycheck then the more power to her, she is definitely getting over on a lot of people to be a spokeswoman for abstinence and having a child out of wedlock in her teens. Sometimes you just gotta shake your head and say “only in America”.

    Ajolily said:
    Several people make this statement. While it is true that writing the book and being on DWTS has made her fair game now, I would ask what made her fair game before for the vicious attacks. . . . I admire her and her mother. Her parents should be very proud of her.

    What has made this nation great among other things is the free marketplace of ideas that the first amendment guarantees. People are free to have ideas and express them. When someone writes a book, they must expect people to have ideas about it. Same thing about going on TV to promote something. I still think the vicious attacks directed at the Palins are extreme. But the remedy for an extreme expression from someone else has always been a truthful expression of your own. I won’t be voting for Palin, but I don’t blame her for being proud of her daughter. (Did Bristol lose her dimpled chin ? I liked it.)

  • Sanders Youth

    WCinWI said:
    What next? People have problems with frat parties serving Natty Light and Jungle Juice? Ok libs. Have at it. Force colleges to not serve alcohol to underage kids. I’ll wait for this.

    Sounds like Bristol’s new digs.

    The 20-year-old single mom purchased the two-story house in December, but she now plans to rent it out for $1,400/month while she films her new reality show for the Bio Channel.

    The five-bedroom pad is 3,900 square feet, with 2.5 baths, a kitchen with an island, a spacious backyard and a three-car garage.

    “When I listed the home it was already vacated,” Nate Martinez of RE/MAX Professionals says.

    Palin’s new reality show will chronicle her move to L.A. with son Tripp, 2, where she will cohabitate with Kyle Massey, 19, and his brother, Christopher.

    http://www.usmagazine.com/celebritynews/news/bristol-palin-renting-out-172000-arizona-home-2011156

    Looks like Bristol is continuing to make really adult decisions, living in sin with two boys and her baby. Great idea Bristol. Must come from good parentage.

  • Sanders Youth

    david r said:
    What has made this nation great among other things is the free marketplace of ideas that the first amendment guarantees. People are free to have ideas and express them. When someone writes a book, they must expect people to have ideas about it. Same thing about going on TV to promote something. I still think the vicious attacks directed at the Palins are extreme. But the remedy for an extreme expression from someone else has always been a truthful expression of your own. I won’t be voting for Palin, but I don’t blame her for being proud of her daughter. (Did Bristol lose her dimpled chin ? I liked it.)

    It is the nature of the 24/7 media bubble that our politics exists in. The media has to fill all that time, so they have chosen to fill it with all things Palin among others. I honestly don’t think the media has been any more unfair to the Palins as the Palin’s have brought on their self. You really think if the 24/7 media had existed the way it exists now during the Clinton/Lewinsky spectacle, they wouldn’t have been rooting around in Chelsea’s trash for stories. I think the Palin’s are perfect for the media which we the consumers are now stuck with. Take a look at what Mediaite covers, 90% of it is meaningless and has no bearing on anyone’s life. But people get sucked in and think it matters, it doesn’t.

    Sarah Palin has brought most of this mess on to herself, if she had ignored the potshots from the beginning there is a good chance the media might have moved on by now. But instead she wants to pick fights with every single person or media outlet that she feels has wronged her or her family. It is petty and childish. Sometimes I think that Sarah Palin would be the perfect representative for the self-involved, intellectual incurious society we find ourselves in at this moment. Probably much more representative of our culture than the aloof, thoughtful intellectual that is our current President. Maybe we do deserve a President Sarah Palin after all. Politics has become a reality show anyway, just read Mediaite.

  • seek

    Bill Huggins said:
    So, “her” baby is going to feel REAL GOOD when he reads in her book that he was a DRUNKEN MISTAKE

    STAY CLASSY PALINS

    Well hopefully she’s more classy than you.

    You have “assumed” that she got pregnant immediately.

    Tell me, was every woman you bedded a virgin? You seem to be the morality police so I assume your own record is spotless.

  • timcajun

    Ajolily says:
    I admire her and her mother. Her parents should be very proud of her.
    ………………………………………………
    They should be very proud of her,….. drunk, knocked-up, no talent, no real job, no education, dimwit, …riding off mommies fame,….yeah real proud!

  • seek

    OxyCon said:
    Anyone who was sexually active in high school knows that alcohol is usually involved. It helps with lowering inhibitions and anxiety over a first sexual encounter. Big deal. Amazing that leftists would have a problem with this.

    Also, I do not like the chin one bit. Whoever talked her into that should have their doctor’s license revoked. Bristol was fine the way she was born and was lucky that good looks runs in the family.

    the leftist don’t have a problem with this – they have a major problem with the Palin family. Nothing more, nothing less.

  • CAconservative

    At this point, could anybody give a Rats-ass about this non-story?!!

  • Ajolily

    Sanders Youth said:
    Sounds like Bristol’s new digs. The 20-year-old single mom purchased the two-story house in December, but she now plans to rent it out for $1,400/month while she films her new reality show for the Bio Channel. The five-bedroom pad is 3,900 square feet, with 2.5 baths, a kitchen with an island, a spacious backyard and a three-car garage. “When I listed the home it was already vacated,” Nate Martinez of RE/MAX Professionals says. Palin’s new reality show will chronicle her move to L.A. with son Tripp, 2, where she will cohabitate with Kyle Massey, 19, and his brother, Christopher. http://www.usmagazine.com/celebritynews/news/bristol-palin-renting-out-172000-arizona-home-2011156 Looks like Bristol is continuing to make really adult decisions, living in sin with two boys and her baby. Great idea Bristol. Must come from good parentage.

    Since when has purchasing a house and renting it out become a poor decision? When has doing a reality show become a poor decision? When has having a roommate meant you were having sinful relationships with the roommate or roommates? I think you are right though when you say great idea Bristol and that it must be due to good parentage. They seem to have taught her to make a good investments with her income like buying a house and renting it out. They seem to have taught her to make her own way and support herself. She has another paying job in a reality show. Do you think she may buy another house and rent it out. I wish I was doing as well. Bristol you keep making lemonade out of the lemons the media keeps tossing you.

  • WillP

    Palin family= white trash

  • WillP

    Bill Huggins said:
    So, “her” baby is going to feel REAL GOOD when he reads in her book that he was a DRUNKEN MISTAKE

    STAY CLASSY PALINS

    Yeah. I just want to cry. This is so bad. I miss the days of Troopergate or almost any other Palin controversy.

  • seek

    timcajun said:
    Ajolily says:
    I admire her and her mother. Her parents should be very proud of her.
    ………………………………………………
    They should be very proud of her,….. drunk, knocked-up, no talent, no real job, no education, dimwit, …riding off mommies fame,….yeah real proud!

    how do you really feel? You’re knocking a 20 year old “girl” who had no choice but to come clean about her “mistake”. She then took responsibility for her “mistake” and didn’t leave it in a kidney bowl. She went on to encourage other young girls to not do what she did – again owning up to her mistake. None of this did the child ask for – it was forced on her by the unrelenting media. She went on to earn her high school diploma – showing that she felt it was important (let’s knock her for that also).

    At some point she realized that she could no more go back to a life of anonymity due to the unrelentless media so why not give them something to talk about? Levi was out there making an absolute fool of himself – unable to pay child support or be anything more than a pawn being used by the left to try and bash Palin.

    He’s publishing a book – she countered by getting her story out first. Good for the girl, otherwise she’d just be answering a bunch of ridiculous lies that the fool is making up. Remember him? Kathy Griffin was in “love” with him!

    So – I think you should grow up. Behave like an adult and don’t carry on as if this is the first time something like this has ever happened and it could only happen to a republican! That’s just b.s.

    Recall, Biden’s Daughter and her cocaine? Wonder what happened to that story? Oh, yes I forgot – that was a democrats kid so we won’t go there.

    You bunch of freaking hypocrites. Absolutely morally absent.

  • Ajolily

    timcajun said:
    Ajolily says:I admire her and her mother. Her parents should be very proud of her.………………………………………………They should be very proud of her,….. drunk, knocked-up, no talent, no real job, no education, dimwit, …riding off mommies fame,….yeah real proud!

    Made a mistake learned her lesson and moved on. Supporting herself and her child. Stands up for herself and admits her mistakes and holds them up to others as an example of what not to do. Yes I believe she has every reason to be proud and her parents have every reason to be prould of her. You must be a very special person yourself you never made a mistake, never got drunk and did something you regreated later right?

  • Sanders Youth

    seek said:
    Well hopefully she’s more classy than you.

    You have “assumed” that she got pregnant immediately.

    Tell me, was every woman you bedded a virgin? You seem to be the morality police so I assume your own record is spotless.

    Uh oh are you saying once inseminated you aren’t immediately pregnant? Hope you aren’t pro-life might have to crawl out of this one.

  • seek

    Sanders, go read about getting pregnant doofus. Honestly, some of the junk you come up with makes the mind boggle. You figure every time a female has unprotected sex she gets pregnant? Ever take biology?

  • Sanders Youth

    seek said:
    Sanders, go read about getting pregnant doofus. Honestly, some of the junk you come up with makes the mind boggle. You figure every time a female has unprotected sex she gets pregnant? Ever take biology?

    Well I hope a female doesn’t get pregnant every time she has unprotected sex I would be in major trouble, kaboom!

  • timcajun

    seek says:
    that was a democrats kid so we won’t go there.
    ……………………………………………..
    By the “tea” standard, long lists of mistakes and gaffs ,….. a “tea” says it’s ok,……. then all forgotten! A liberal,…..what was it, “I won’t go there”, (you just did),.. is that a double standard, a hypocrite, or spin! Yes, a bunch of “freaking hypocrites”, how do you really feel!

  • seek

    timcajun said:
    seek says:
    that was a democrats kid so we won’t go there.
    ……………………………………………..
    By the “tea” standard, long lists of mistakes and gaffs ,….. a “tea” says it’s ok,……. then all forgotten! A liberal,…..what was it, “I won’t go there”, (you just did),.. is that a double standard, a hypocrite, or spin! Yes, a bunch of “freaking hypocrites”, how do you really feel!

    what the hell are you talking about? Just spit it out, don’t beat around the bush.

    p.s. your post – made no sense, none, nadda, diddlely

  • LOGICandREASON

    She’s a hot little girl, getting more beautiful each day; I’m sure my son would be interested. Levi is a looser

  • timcajun

    seek says:
    what the hell are you talking about? Just spit it out, don’t beat around the bush.
    ……………………………………………….
    You don’t recall your own pointless moron post,… I just repeated it to show how much of a clown your are! Are you “teas” so deep into the double standard, that you don’t see how you look like fools?

    p.s. your post-made no sense, none, nadda, diddley, ….. and wait, we think you’re funny, so please tag back!

  • seek

    timcajun said:
    seek says:
    what the hell are you talking about? Just spit it out, don’t beat around the bush.
    ……………………………………………….
    You don’t recall your own pointless moron post,… I just repeated it to show how much of a clown your are! Are you “teas” so deep into the double standard, that you don’t see how you look like fools?

    p.s. your post-made no sense, none, nadda, diddley, ….. and wait, we think you’re funny, so please tag back!

    thanks for clearing that up.

    btw – I’m not a tea anything, don’t like the stuff, don’t drink the stuff, don’t have any in my house.

    My post was pointless only if you want to close your eyes to the double standard. Biden’s daughter caught – never heard another word about it. Did you happen to see a story here? No, I thought not. You’re equating me referring to it to the media not referring to it?

    Again, quit with the name calling and either spit the hell out as to what you are trying to say or state that your post was in error, because it truly didn’t make any sense.

  • Rokker

    Go away girl!

    The public having to suffer the lunatic ranting of one Palin is enough.

  • Bill Huggins

    seek said:
    Well hopefully she’s more classy than you.

    You have “assumed” that she got pregnant immediately.

    Tell me, was every woman you bedded a virgin? You seem to be the morality police so I assume your own record is spotless.

    How am I the “morality police”? I didn’t accuse her of immorality. I accused her of being uncouth in her description Of the night of sex she had that lead to “her” baby. Shes
    The one who called it a drunken mistake. Not me. What does that have to do with MORALITY?

    You wanna consult your mommy and a dictionary before you comment again?

  • cjd ohio 1

    Bill Huggins said:
    How am I the “morality police”? I didn’t accuse her of immorality. I accused her of being uncouth in her description Of the night of sex she had that lead to “her” baby. ShesThe one who called it a drunken mistake. Not me. What does that have to do with MORALITY? You wanna consult your mommy and a dictionary before you comment again?

    you know the date of conception, wow, you are good bill

  • valkyrie101

    “I’m not accusing Levi of date rape by any means. I’m just honestly looking back on it with the eyes of an adult. That was five years ago, and I’m realizing that it was a dumb decision.”

    The problem with making that argument is that then you are saying you wish your child was never born.

  • Bill Huggins

    Ajolily said:
    Perhaps he will think, Wow if the liberals had it their way I would have been killed. Thanks Mom, I love you for having the courage to love me enough to keep me even though you didn’t plan for me.

    YUP. EVERY liberal has an abortion. When you register, you have to check regular or wire hanger.

  • BFD

    nice roger ebert chin

  • azgrandma

    Sanders – I totally agree with you on nearly everything you have said. The palins have brought on everything they are getting and continue to get because they keep it going. And oh yes such good parenting on bristols part moving a 2 year old boy to LA and live with 2 young men – now that is just brilliant – NOT. What kind of an environment is that for a little boy? all the while she keeps trashing Levi which i agree needs to be trashed but she chose him, Typical palin open mouth and insert foot – many times they have to go back and explain what they meant or didn’t mean because they are all such a bunch of morons. so bristol, stop digging the hole and learn from your mistakes and turn the corner – oops never mind that is not possible.

  • Ajolily

    Bill Huggins said:
    YUP. EVERY liberal has an abortion. When you register, you have to check regular or wire hanger.

    Well lets see, I have looked back through my comments and no where have I said or implied all liberals have abortions. I implied and stand by the implication that most liberals believe an unwed teen should abort while most conservatives say a baby should not be aborted. It is a generalization and it would be stupid to imply it was anything else. Hence you must be . . . Palins son will be proud he was conceived therefore by a conservative who does not believe in killing the child who was conceived by mistake but in no way making the child itself a mistake. But then some people aren’t intelligent enough to know the difference between the mistake of getting pregnant and calling the child itself a mistake. From every thing I read it looks to me that Bristol loves her son and will make him feel loved and wanted. Unfortunately not so much will he feel his father did right by him. It will be a much tougher job to help him work through that. Hopefully Levi will grow up and make it right with his son.

  • Ajolily

    azgrandma said:
    The palins have brought on everything they are getting and continue to get because they keep it going.

    Yes Palins you are not allowed to stand up for yourselves. If the liberals decide to attack you and set you up for ridicule you are supposed to run and hide. If you don’t run and hide it is your fault if they keep attacking. Its like the old premise that a girl deserves to be raped because of the way she dresses. It isn’t the rapist fault because he couldn’t help it, she provoked him. Someone finally stood up to the bullies. That is what I admire most about the Palins. They refused to run and hide from their attackers.

  • timcajun

    seek says:
    My post was pointless only if you want to close your eyes to the double standard. Biden’s daughter caught – never heard another word about it. Did you happen to see a story here? No, I thought not. You’re equating me referring to it to the media not referring to it?

    Again, quit with the name calling and either spit the hell out as to what you are trying to say or state that your post was in error, because it truly didn’t make any sense.
    ………………………………….
    “My post was poinless only if you close your eyes to the double standard”. “Double standard” you just now figured that out? “You’re equating me referring to it to the MEDIA NOT REFERRING TO IT”, right you did, “you did,…it’s ok to slam a liberal, but not a “tea”! Spit it out, ….you live for the “double standard”. How many times does that have to be said, as you say,….doofus! Tag back your still good for a laugh.

  • Bill Huggins

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    you know the date of conception, wow, you are good bill

    Either she got drunk, had sex, and got pregnant. OR: she had sex cause she liked it. Her book says the former. She can’t have it both ways. She said the stuff about when “she” got preggers: not me.

  • seek

    valkyrie101 said:
    “I’m not accusing Levi of date rape by any means. I’m just honestly looking back on it with the eyes of an adult. That was five years ago, and I’m realizing that it was a dumb decision.”

    The problem with making that argument is that then you are saying you wish your child was never born.

    OMFG

  • Bill Huggins

    Ajolily said:
    Well lets see, I have looked back through my comments and no where have I said or implied all liberals have abortions. I implied and stand by the implication that most liberals believe an unwed teen should abort while most conservatives say a baby should not be aborted. It is a generalization and it would be stupid to imply it was anything else. Hence you must be . . . Palins son will be proud he was conceived therefore by a conservative who does not believe in killing the child who was conceived by mistake but in no way making the child itself a mistake. But then some people aren’t intelligent enough to know the difference between the mistake of getting pregnant and calling the child itself a mistake. From every thing I read it looks to me that Bristol loves her son and will make him feel loved and wanted. Unfortunately not so much will he feel his father did right by him. It will be a much tougher job to help him work through that. Hopefully Levi will grow up and make it right with his son.

    Yeah , your REAL implication was just so much more reasonable. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  • seek

    timcajun said:
    seek says:
    My post was pointless only if you want to close your eyes to the double standard. Biden’s daughter caught – never heard another word about it. Did you happen to see a story here? No, I thought not. You’re equating me referring to it to the media not referring to it?

    Again, quit with the name calling and either spit the hell out as to what you are trying to say or state that your post was in error, because it truly didn’t make any sense.
    ………………………………….
    “My post was poinless only if you close your eyes to the double standard”. “Double standard” you just now figured that out? “You’re equating me referring to it to the MEDIA NOT REFERRING TO IT”, right you did, “you did,…it’s ok to slam a liberal, but not a “tea”! Spit it out, ….you live for the “double standard”. How many times does that have to be said, as you say,….doofus! Tag back your still good for a laugh.

    I guess you didn’t have a point. You seem to have completely “lost it”. Take a couple of Advil and you’ll be as good as new and ready to rumble in an hour or two.

  • Ajolily

    Bill Huggins said:
    Yeah , your REAL implication was just so much more reasonable. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    No comment besides name calling and ridicule usually means you can’t counter the argument. I will take it as such.

  • seek

    Ajolily said:
    No comment besides name calling and ridicule usually means you can’t counter the argument. I will take it as such.

    You’re right – we seem to have 2 right on this page who have completely lost it and are now resorting to nonsense. Oh well, no surprise.

  • timcajun

    seek says:
    I guess you didn’t have a point.
    ………………………..
    Translation—– you were backed into a corner on a nothing unimportant post! I can’t wait to “rumble”, should I contact the rest of the gang?

  • Ajolily

    seek said:
    You’re right – we seem to have 2 right on this page who have completely lost it and are now resorting to nonsense. Oh well, no surprise.

    Yes I was about to use your quote in answer to his. It would fit well.

  • valkyrie101

    seek said:
    OMFG

    I see that you are shocked and appalled, and only taking the Lord’s name in vain a little bit, but how do you wish you never had the sex that created the child you love?

  • Ajolily

    valkyrie101 said:
    how do you wish you never had the sex that created the child you love?

    It is a conundrum but it is a fact. You can know you made a mistake and did something you shouldn’t have and still love the child you made as a result. You will always regret that you were not better equipped to give the child everything he deserves. You know you cheated him. You know that you created hurt to others as well. A father for instance that you find you cannot reconcile to. The child is hurt, the father is hurt, his parents, your parents. Yet you have a beautiful child to love and care for. Now do you then say it wasn’t a mistake because I have you my child so feel free to make the same mistake because it isn’t a mistake? Valkyrie I know you to be intelligent and you know the child was not the mistake, only timing and circumstances surrounding the birth and situation surrounding the event. This is not a black and white issue is it. Bristol is doing well in providing love and she unlike many young single mothers can provide very well financially, her family will try to fill in the gaps. But the child will still grow up without a loving father who also loves his mother. He will grow up with friction between the two families. That is a mistake and Bristol knows this if others don’t. She knows her son is not a mistake.

  • valkyrie101

    Ajolily said:
    It is a conundrum but it is a fact. You can know you made a mistake and did something you shouldn’t have and still love the child you made as a result. You will always regret that you were not better equipped to give the child everything he deserves. You know you cheated him. You know that you created hurt to others as well. A father for instance that you find you cannot reconcile to. The child is hurt, the father is hurt, his parents, your parents. Yet you have a beautiful child to love and care for. Now do you then say it wasn’t a mistake because I have you my child so feel free to make the same mistake because it isn’t a mistake? Valkyrie I know you to be intelligent and you know the child was not the mistake, only timing and circumstances surrounding the birth and situation surrounding the event. This is not a black and white issue is it. Bristol is doing well in providing love and she unlike many young single mothers can provide very well financially, her family will try to fill in the gaps. But the child will still grow up without a loving father who also loves his mother. He will grow up with friction between the two families. That is a mistake and Bristol knows this if others don’t. She knows her son is not a mistake.

    Thank you, that was a thoughtful answer. My view is that Bristol should be celebrating the sex she had with Levi because it led to her having the child she loves.

  • Ajolily

    valkyrie101 said:
    Thank you, that was a thoughtful answer. My view is that Bristol should be celebrating the sex she had with Levi because it led to her having the child she loves.

    Yes and many woman in that position do but not to the exclusion of admitting it was a mistake. As I said a conundrum. My divorced daughter knows that her marriage was a horrible mistake. The man abused her and the children. She still will not say she wishes she had never married him because the marriage produced her children. Her marriage was a mistake but she would not go back in time and undo it if she had the opportunity because that would mean not having the girls. Your view is valid and true but IMO only a part of the story.

  • valkyrie101

    Ajolily said:
    Yes and many woman in that position do but not to the exclusion of admitting it was a mistake.

    That is impossible. Children are not mistakes.

  • seek

    valkyrie101 said:
    I see that you are shocked and appalled, and only taking the Lord’s name in vain a little bit, but how do you wish you never had the sex that created the child you love?

    As a matter of fact, she answered that question (because some media fool asked her that) a year or so back.
    Check and you might like her answer.

  • Nacho

    Holy plastic surgery!

  • Ajolily

    valkyrie101 said:
    That is impossible. Children are not mistakes.

    Conundrum again and don’t start taking things out of context like you do. Yes Children are not mistakes on that we already agreed, but also again not so black and white. Did my daughter make a mistake in marrying a man who abused her and not leaving right away choosing instead to make excuses for him and having a second child? Believing she could change him? If it wasn’t a mistake than should she have stayed married to him?

  • Ajolily

    seek said:
    As a matter of fact, she answered that question (because some media fool asked her that) a year or so back.Check and you might like her answer.

    Now I am not surprised but given the conversation I am interested in how she answered it. Please give details.

  • valkyrie101

    Ajolily said:
    Conundrum again and don’t start taking things out of context like you do. Yes Children are not mistakes on that we already agreed, but also again not so black and white. Did my daughter make a mistake in marrying a man who abused her and not leaving right away choosing instead to make excuses for him and having a second child? Believing she could change him? If it wasn’t a mistake than should she have stayed married to him?

    Excellent. Yes, people hate their ex and wish they had never laid eyes on him, but they cherish the child that was obtained because they chose to endure the pain. And yes, this brings in the rape issue too. A woman is raped and has a child that she loves, must she be grateful for the sex to truly love her daughter?

  • DonnaK

    I wonder how she thinks her son will feel years from now, reading what she says about his Dad….I’m sure the Palins do everything possible to not let his Dad see him…..Also, it is so funny when you read message boards written by “real people” instead of the Palins or their supporters, they seem to tell the truth of what “real people” think of Dumb & Dumber!!! These people should be on their knees thanking God for what the McCains did for them, instead of whinning once again ,about being treated badly…

  • Ajolily

    valkyrie101 said:
    Excellent. Yes, people hate their ex and wish they had never laid eyes on him, but they cherish the child that was obtained because they chose to endure the pain. And yes, this brings in the rape issue too. A woman is raped and has a child that she loves, must she be grateful for the sex to truly love her daughter?

    Your post is also excellent. I had not thought of the rape angle.

  • Ajolily

    DonnaK said:
    I wonder how she thinks her son will feel years from now, reading what she says about his Dad….I’m sure the Palins do everything possible to not let his Dad see him…..Also, it is so funny when you read message boards written by “real people” instead of the Palins or their supporters, they seem to tell the truth of what “real people” think of Dumb & Dumber!!! These people should be on their knees thanking God for what the McCains did for them, instead of whinning once again ,about being treated badly…

    I am not really interested in the book but now I need to buy it and find out. I had not heard of anything the Palins said about him that is so bad or untrue. I wonder how he will feel about his Dad and the lies his Dad admits to telling about the Palins. He can’t even keep it straight. He says one thing retracts then retracts the retraction. All on paper and film. But as for the Palin family not so much have I heard of them saying. So give me the story. What did Bristol say about Levi in the book that was so bad? This is a serious question for anyone out there who has read the book. Did she write anything that her son would be ashamed to read about his father?

  • Nacho

    Ajolily said:
    This is a serious question for anyone out there who has read the book. Did she write anything that her son would be ashamed to read about his father?

    It’s filled with amazing awesome juice. You will need to buy it now to find out.

  • Bill Huggins

    Ajolily said:
    No comment besides name calling and ridicule usually means you can’t counter the argument. I will take it as such.

    Uh huh,
    YOU state that every liberal wants their kids who mistakenly got
    Pregnant to get an abortion, and I’M THE NAME CALLER?

    Defend Brisket all you want: she still called “her”‘ kid a drunken mistake.

  • damien

    Dronetek said:
    Picking on kids is A-OK IF: 1. You’re a liberal2. The target is the child of a conservative

    Or if you’re Rush Limbaugh and there’s a Democrat in the White House.

  • Ajolily

    Bill Huggins said:
    Uh huh,YOU state that every liberal wants their kids who mistakenly gotPregnant to get an abortion, and I’M THE NAME CALLER? Defend Brisket all you want: she still called “her”‘ kid a drunken mistake.

    Thing is I never said that, you did. As for Bristol calling her child a drunken mistake she never said that either. I said that Liberals in general believe that abortion is the answer to a teen getting pregnant and she said that drinking led to her using poor judgment and having unprotected sex leading to pregnancy. Please can you tell me that liberals in general don’t believe pregnant teens should get an abortion? You liberals claim the superior intellect but many of you can’t think in complex concepts like something being both a mistake and a blessing at the same time. The child was never a mistake, no child is and I believe Bristol would tell you this if you asked her.

  • seek

    Bill Huggins said:
    Uh huh,
    YOU state that every liberal wants their kids who mistakenly got
    Pregnant to get an abortion, and I’M THE NAME CALLER?

    Defend Brisket all you want: she still called “her”‘ kid a drunken mistake.

    I call b.s. on you and your post. Keep it real and keep it honest you fool.

  • seek

    Ajolily said:
    Thing is I never said that, you did. As for Bristol calling her child a drunken mistake she never said that either. I said that Liberals in general believe that abortion is the answer to a teen getting pregnant and she said that drinking led to her using poor judgment and having unprotected sex leading to pregnancy. Please can you tell me that liberals in general don’t believe pregnant teens should get an abortion? You liberals claim the superior intellect but many of you can’t think in complex concepts like something being both a mistake and a blessing at the same time. The child was never a mistake, no child is and I believe Bristol would tell you this if you asked her.

    Bristol indeed said so. She stated she loved him more than life itself. The girl answered that question in an interview last year.

  • seek

    She said she couldn’t picture life without him. I recall at the time that she gave an extremely “grown up” answer to a very tricky question. I’m sure it’s hidden away somewhere, but I did a cursory search and couldn’t find it.

  • Ajolily

    Nacho said:
    It’s filled with amazing awesome juice. You will need to buy it now to find out.

    I really don’t want to but sometimes you have to go see a movie or read a book because you can’t be a part of the conversation if you haven’t. I believe DonnaK is clueless but until I read the book I cannot be sure that Bristol didn’t say some things she may not want her son to have to read. I am surprised you bought it and read it. Can’t you just tell me what she said that her son would be upset about?

  • seek

    Ajolily said:
    I really don’t want to but sometimes you have to go see a movie or read a book because you can’t be a part of the conversation if you haven’t. I believe DonnaK is clueless but until I read the book I cannot be sure that Bristol didn’t say some things she may not want her son to have to read. I am surprised you bought it and read it. Can’t you just tell me what she said that her son would be upset about?

    I think Nacho is completely clueless also. I don’t think anyone in here has read it. I will buy it when I see it, just because – but knowing me, I probably won’t really “read” it. I’m not that interested because I can see why she did it – and I don’t know that a 20 year old says a lot that I couldn’t guess anyway. Been around a couple of them.

    Valk is completely out to lunch because he is under the misconception that a 17 year old girl and boy are coming from the same place where sex is concerned. Then in his next breath he does the “holier than thou nonsense. So his credibility is down the drain.

    It’s really not that tough but the repercussions for a girl and a boy are completely different. Perfectly illustrated by Bristol and Levi. He’s out doing nude spreads and not paying child support and she’s up nights with a fussy baby who’s teething. He supposedly has another child now also. That boy got a pass because of his good looks and that’s all he’s got. Too dumb to tie his own shoelaces and by what the media stated about his Mother – they are none too bright.

  • Ajolily

    seek said:
    She said she couldn’t picture life without him. I recall at the time that she gave an extremely “grown up” answer to a very tricky question. I’m sure it’s hidden away somewhere, but I did a cursory search and couldn’t find it.

    I remember that but did not know that is what you were alluding to. It was a very good answer to a very complex issue. I have never read a quote from her saying anything bad about Levi. Trying to get these posters to tell me where she has.

    seek said:
    Bristol indeed said so. She stated she loved him more than life itself. The girl answered that question in an interview last year.

    She said her son was a drunken mistake? The comment I was responding to was a poster saying she called her son a drunken mistake. I think you used the wrong quote from me.

  • seek

    Ajolily said:
    I remember that but did not know that is what you were alluding to. It was a very good answer to a very complex issue. I have never read a quote from her saying anything bad about Levi. Trying to get these posters to tell me where she has.

    She said her son was a drunken mistake? The comment I was responding to was a poster saying she called her son a drunken mistake. I think you used the wrong quote from me.

    Sorry, no she sure didn’t say that. lol

  • Tedderman

    Is that really Bristol Palin, it looks more like “the Octomom?”

  • seek

    Tedderman said:
    Is that really Bristol Palin, it looks more like “the Octomom?”

    Octomom would be insulted you doofus. She had her face reconstructed to look like Angelina Jolie!

    Bristol is a very attractive girl – like it or not.

  • Tedderman

    Not!

  • valkyrie101

    seek said:
    Valk is completely out to lunch because he is under the misconception that a 17 year old girl and boy are coming from the same place where sex is concerned. Then in his next breath he does the “holier than thou nonsense. So his credibility is down the drain.

    Holier than thou?

  • valkyrie101

    How do you wish you never had the consensual sex that created the child you love? If Bristol had followed the rules of her church, she would not have a child to love. Correct?

  • valkyrie101

    The reason Bristol has a child to love is because she chose to keep the fetus she conceived, as a co-creator, with Levi, that matured within her body to become a child. It was no mistake that she did that.

  • valkyrie101

    Bristol and Levi committed no sin. And their child is beautiful.

  • valkyrie101

    The notion that Bristol and her family are incapable of raising a healthy adjusted and outstanding child, as a single mother, is absurd.

  • seek

    Enjoy talking to yourself valk?

  • valkyrie101

    seek said:
    Enjoy talking to yourself valk?

    Look at the time frame, everybody left the room on this issue. But I always assume my grandma in Sheboygin is reading.

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