He’s going for the Latino gangbanger vote:

Eight gay-hating Bronx gangbangers accused of one of the city’s most savage crimes in years appeared in court Sunday to face charges in what Mayor Bloomberg called an act of “pure evil.”
They stand accused of torturing and terrorizing a gay man, his older brother, and two teenagers over the course of many hours Oct. 3 in Morris Heights…
None of the defendants – Mendez, 23; Elmer Confresi, 23; David Rivera, 21; Bryan Almonte, 17; Steven Caraballo, 17; Nelson Falu, 17; Denis Peitars, 17; and Brian Cepeda, 16, all of the Bronx – entered pleas….

Well yeah Carl, God created women to have sex with horses , but being gay? That’s just gross.

I can hardly wait to see this defended.

CosmosDan said:
Well yeah Carl, God created women to have sex with horses , but being gay? That’s just gross

Do you honestly think he forwarded that email as his endorsement for beastility ?

Horses? Paladino? Nah, too easy.

… and twice as good if you’re raising two families.

murf said:
Do you honestly think he forwarded that email as his endorsement for beastility ?

I have to say with this guy, we best not presume any motive. He is one crazy dude.

“And then, to applause at Congregation Shaarei Chaim, he said: I didn’t march in the gay parade this year…”

Those Hasidic Jews sure are bigoted and homophobic.

The Real Royal King said:
I have to say with this guy, we best not presume any motive. He is one crazy dude.

Short-tempered ? yes.– Crazy — Nah, he holds many of the same positions most Americans do, lower taxes, smaller government , traditional marriage, working hard for your money etc..

Outstanding.

murf said:
Short-tempered ? yes.– Crazy — Nah, he holds many of the same positions most Americans do, lower taxes, smaller government , traditional marriage, working hard for your money etc..

A majority agreement doesn’t make something less crazy.

murf said:
Do you honestly think he forwarded that email as his endorsement for beastility ?

Can you honestly say he didn’t? Well, why else did he forward that email?

murf said:
Short-tempered ? yes.– Crazy — Nah, he holds many of the same positions most Americans do, lower taxes, smaller government , traditional marriage, working hard for your money etc..

and brainwashing , sometimes called, deciding for yourself, you know , the normal stuff.

Oh and how’s that traditional marriage thing going for him?

gammaray said:
A majority agreement doesn’t make something less crazy.

Yes, and he likes a medium rare ribeye with a baked potato packed with butter, cheddar, chives and bacon. He’s not crazy. He’s us. Well, he’s Archie Bunker.

You can watch the video of Carl Paladino’s hate speech against homosexuality here:
http://bit.ly/99MU5E

Azarkhan said:
“And then, to applause at Congregation Shaarei Chaim, he said: I didn’t march in the gay parade this year…” Those Hasidic Jews sure are bigoted and homophobic.

And what do you think?

murf said:
Do you honestly think he forwarded that email as his endorsement for beastility ?

I don’t give a shit why he forwarded it. It’s just ridiculous that he did find it worthy of forwarding rather than deleting, and then says ““That’s not how God created us,” about gays.

alamo2 said:
Can you honestly say he didn’t? Well, why else did he forward that email?

Yeah Alamo, I’m pretty sure a guy who is a strong traditional marriage proponent , is all for chicks getting horse cocks jammed in their twats , and wasnt just sending out some humerous joke emails to his buddies. Right.

CosmosDan said:
I don’t give a shit why he forwarded it. It’s just ridiculous that he did find it worthy of forwarding rather than deleting, and then says ““That’s not how God created us,” about gays.

Not saying it was right , just not going to accept you equating the two issues together.

gammaray said:
A majority agreement doesn’t make something less crazy.

True, no doubt. However, the things Murf mentioned in his comments – lower taxes, smaller government , traditional marriage, working hard for your money – are anything but crazy.

murf said:
Yeah Alamo, I’m pretty sure a guy who is a strong traditional marriage proponent

Is that why he’s got 2 families?

alamo2 said:
And what do you think?

I think happiness is a warm gun-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5j-S6Eq81g

the real john t said:
Is that why he’s got 2 families?

What does that have to do with not supporting gay marriage ?

murf said:
Yeah Alamo, I’m pretty sure a guy who is a strong traditional marriage proponent , is all for chicks getting horse cocks jammed in their twats , and wasnt just sending out some humerous joke emails to his buddies. Right.

Do you not know about his extramarital squeeze and love child? How can you possibly call him a “strong traditional proponent”? That’s like calling Brisket Palin the poster child for Abstinence, Only, or Newt Gingrich a one woman man or Dick Morris a podiatrist.

murf said:
What does that have to do with not supporting gay marriage ?

Wow, that’s a very, very fine line.

Once again, Ted Bundy Jr. weighs in on ‘Brisket’ Palin.

The Real Royal King said:
“strong traditional proponent”?

He’s for traditional marriage , against the gay life style. Thus TRADITIONAL LIFE STYLE . Pretty simple.

Now if he cheated with a man , then you’d have a point King.

The Real Royal King said:
Do you not know about his extramarital squeeze and love child? How can you possibly call him a “strong traditional proponent”? That’s like calling Brisket Palin the poster child for Abstinence, Only, or Newt Gingrich a one woman man or Dick Morris a podiatrist.

Or Nancy Pelosi intelligent……or impressive……or ethical…….or cognisant…….

murf said:
He’s for traditional marriage , against the gay life style. Thus TRADITIONAL LIFE STYLE . Pretty simple.

You know that would work at a Tea Party rally, but you’re dealing with a somewhat more sophisticated lot here. I’m willing to say Grayson is a kook and Olbermann is a partisan hack. If you did the same with Paolpinto and the Beckerhead, you’d have more credibility.

By the way, a traditional marriage is also a faithful one. You know you can’t like a Snicker’s and dislike cocoa.

murf said:
Not saying it was right , just not going to accept you equating the two issues together.

I’m not equating them as equal events. His comment about kids being brainwashed is much more profoundly ignorant than forwarding disgusting emails. I’m only noting how his choice of words, considering his history, highlights it.

Andy Lamb said:
Or Nancy Pelosi intelligent……or impressive……or ethical…….or cognisant…….

There. You get the idea. Not that I agree with your characterization of Speaker Pelosi, but you understand the analytical model. You could say the same thing about Senator Reid, and I wouldn’t argue.

nomatter fashionshopping or happyshopping .
maybe come into http://www.fashionshoppong.us is the better choose .

murf said:
Thus TRADITIONAL LIFE STYLE

OH! Is that traditional to have 2 families. Maybe if you’re a Mormon.

The Real Royal King said:
I’m willing to say Grayson is a kook and Olbermann is a partisan h

That’s hilarious , you know why ? You agree with them on every issue , and foul language about republicans.( especially Palin and Beck ) Your history of posts proves that.

Andy Lamb said:
True, no doubt. However, the things Murf mentioned in his comments – lower taxes, smaller government , traditional marriage, working hard for your money – are anything but crazy.

I’d say the concept of traditional marriage is fairly crazy. But yes, my main point was against the delivery, not the content, of the post.

murf said:
Yeah Alamo, I’m pretty sure a guy who is a strong traditional marriage proponent , is all for chicks getting horse cocks jammed in their twats , and wasnt just sending out some humerous joke emails to his buddies. Right.

You have to wonder if seeing those emails as just humorous, while hiding his mistress and daughter for years, is really being a strong supporter of traditional marriage.

Oh gee, the homophobe racist teabagger GOP nutjob speaks again!

surprise! surprise!

Perhaps Paladino is a plant by the Democrats. lol just kidding. But as a gay person it always amazes me when people think you can “brainwash” someone into gay sex. Haha, you couldn’t brainwash me into straight sex. Idiocy.

I’ve been asked by a couple people “why do you see Paladino and O’Donnell on the news SO much, they are both down by 20% in the polls yet you see them ALL the time?” I see the same question on here, why the obsession with these two? It’s really quite simple, the Democratic party and their agents in the media are trying to paint these two as the face of, as representative of, ALL Republican candidates in ALL races. You can’t fault the strategy. It’s not working, and it won’t work, but you can’t blame them for trying. They’re just trying to somehow minimize the brutal beating they’re facing on November 2nd.

CosmosDan said:
You have to wonder if seeing those emails as just humorous, while hiding his mistress and daughter for years, is really being a strong supporter of traditional marriage.

Okay , what I meant ny ” Traditional ” was MAN & WOMAN , I thought that was pretty obvious , guess not . The reason I said ” STRONG PROPONENT ” was because of his comments today .

Oh gee, the homophobe racist teabagger GOP nutjob speaks again!

Olbermann, is that you?

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gammaray said:
I’d say the concept of traditional marriage is fairly crazy.

I guess it depends on what you mean by “the concept of traditional marriage.”

murf said:
That’s hilarious , you know why ? You agree with them on every issue , and foul language about republicans.( especially Palin and Beck ) Your history of posts proves that.

First: You don’t know that, and I can tell you I have very different notions on the environment, Afghanistan, mortgage banking and currency regulation than Olbermann. Second: Even as to people with whom I share the broadest of policy intersections, I can disagree vehemently with their attitudes, demeanors and ethical choices.

I suppose my concern about you is you are simply a talling points kind of guy unable to engage in nuance.

talling points?

Excuse me, Kumquat. My proofing is poor enough when I have my contacts in. They’ve been out for a couple of hours now.

Thank you for the reminder.

The Real Royal King said:
First: You don’t know that, and I can tell you I have very different notions on the environment, Afghanistan, mortgage banking and currency regulation than Olbermann. Second: Even as to people with whom I share the broadest of policy intersections, I can disagree vehemently with their attitudes, demeanors and ethical choices. I suppose my concern about you is you are simply a talling points kind of guy unable to engage in nuance.

Again hilarious , I would have respect for you if it weren’t for you constant contradictions and hypocrisy.

later

That’s okay, Ted Bundy Jr. At your age, it’s a miracle you can see at all.

Andy Lamb said:
why the obsession with these two?

Because Mediaite is a shill for the Democratic Party, and there just isn’t much good news for Democrats these days. Check out the bottom graph in the following article. Cook has approximately 90 Democratic House seats “favoring Republicans”.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704657304575540300424055286.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsTop

murf said:
Okay , what I meant ny ” Traditional ” was MAN & WOMAN

Is a man and 2 women “traditional”?

murf said:
Okay , what I meant ny ” Traditional ” was MAN & WOMAN , I thought that was pretty obvious , guess not . The reason I said ” STRONG PROPONENT ” was because of his comments today .

Honest, I don’t care what you meant. His comments today are full of ignorance and bigotry, the same as his notorious emails. H

murf said:
Again hilarious , I would have respect for you if it weren’t for you constant contradictions and hypocrisy. later

I’m glad I was able to help. The value of blogs is the insight we develop and share.

Do we have ANY decent candidates running for ANY political office at this time? I already believe we have none already in office, but was hoping for improvement. We’ve still got a long way to go to get things turned around.

dahni said:
Do we have ANY decent candidates running for ANY political office at this time? I already believe we have none already in office, but was hoping for improvement. We’ve still got a long way to go to get things turned around.

Yes, we do.

Paula said:
Its not natural; we all know its not.

Do you see the hypocrisy in your comment?

He talks about a successful life for our kids while hiding one of his for years. “That’s not how God made us” and yet homosexuals have been around since recorded history and occurs in nature. He says live and let live, but he implies , as long as you don’t really want equal rights, and I get to denigrate your sexual preference.

Dude has my vote.

Andy Lamb said:
why the obsession with these two?

Azarkhan said:
Because Mediaite is a shill for the Democratic Party, and there just isn’t much good news for Democrats these days. Check out the bottom graph in the following article. Cook has approximately 90 Democratic House seats “favoring Republicans”. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704657304575540300424055286.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsTop

I know you already realize that I said “why the obsession with these two?” in the context of a larger post. The reason for the obsession with two fringe candidates both down by 20 points in the polls is obvious. It’s just not working, and it may actually be working in reverse. If I’m undecided or a moderate Democrat, I want someone to give me a reason to stay with my party despite the very hard core liberal in the WH, I don’t want to see Paladino or O’Donnell every time I turn on MSNBC.

Paula said:
. I wouldn’t want my child to be gay or lesbian; those are terrible lifestyles. And telling children that its somehow “normal” is just the worst kind of thuggery and lying.

I wonder which has done more damage. Loving them and accepting who they are , or trying to force them to live a lie.
People used to think mixed race couples was gross and unnatural as well, but now we realize just how wrong and ignorant that attitude is. It’s only a matter of time before the same is true of gays and lesbians.

I disagree with you, Andy Lamb, about Palopinto. There hasn’t been that much coverage. Only when something outrageous and therefore legitimate comes out. There is a good deal of that with him, of course.

There is some overkill with Randi the Witch. But, that seems to be due to the comedic nature of her past and her presence. Just look at all the comedy shows. In other words, I think cable “news” may be milking the chuckles for all they are worth.

CosmosDan said:
I wonder which has done more damage. Loving them and accepting who they are , or trying to force them to live a lie.
People used to think mixed race couples was gross and unnatural as well, but now we realize just how wrong and ignorant that attitude is. It’s only a matter of time before the same is true of gays and lesbians.

So you are agreeing then that the gay and lesbian lifestyle is a CHOICE just like interracial marriage is a choice.

President Obama on Sunday stepped back from categorical charges he made earlier this week that foreign money was funding conservative TV campaign ads, telling a rally in Philadelphia only that such a scenario was possible.
The softening of Obama’s language reflects the impact of a Saturday report on the issue by the New York Times, which concluded that charges originally made by a blog run by a Democratic-aligned think tank were baseless….

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2010/10/10/obama-backs-off-charge-that-foreign-money-is-funding-chamber-ads/#ixzz1214AJ03C

He better. My understanding is that a lot of foreign money entered the coffers of the 2008 Obama campaign (and let’s not even discuss the Clintons!). I’m sure he doesn’t want that can of worms opened.

Most of you are posting more garbage than ever came out of Paladino’s mouth. So does that mean that what you are saying is the measure of the person you are? If not, you are pathetic. At least he stands for Christian values. Just because he is not a saint, (and none of us are) does not mean he is not the man that can help NY. I am still voting for him. He has some good ideas for helping NY.

Nice headline Glynnis. He didn’t attack anyone or anything. He voiced his opinion. Stay classy though!

Kspraydad said:
So you are agreeing then that the gay and lesbian lifestyle is a CHOICE just like interracial marriage is a choice.

well sure that’s what I must mean, because people also choose their race right?

CosmosDan said:
well sure that’s what I must mean, because people also choose their race right?

No…they choose to marry interracially…which is what you held up as being the same as gay marriage. Try to keep up ok.

At least the dude is saying it all up front rather than hiding everything til after the election. People know what they’re getting when deciding to vote for/against him.

Kspraydad said:
So you are agreeing then that the gay and lesbian lifestyle is a CHOICE just like interracial marriage is a choice.

When did you CHOOSE not to be gay? Did you have a bad relationship and your boyfriend drooped you that you CHOSE not to be gay anymore?

camille522 said:
At least he stands for Christian values.

Could you tell me which values are Christian values and how Christianity came to own them?

Brisket Palin

ROFLMFAO!

Kspraydad said:
No…they choose to marry interracially…which is what you held up as being the same as gay marriage. Try to keep up ok.

I’m not the one having trouble keeping up. You made an absurd statement and I answered with one. Mine was on purpose, was yours?

the real john t said:
When did you CHOOSE not to be gay? Did you have a bad relationship and your boyfriend drooped you that you CHOSE not to be gay anymore?

Another one that can’t keep up. Having a gay relationship was equated to interracial marriage … not by me. I’m challenging that. I didn’t make a comment on choice…I questioned someone else’s comment. FFS if you guys can’t even parse simple sentences no wonder this country is fucked.

Andy Lamb said:
I guess it depends on what you mean by “the concept of traditional marriage.”

Well in my eyes it would just be two or more people who want to solidify their love for an extended period of time, because I see marriage as having a small ‘m’. But the way I meant it in that post was how conservatives mean it: a man and a woman bound together for eternity by the blessing of an invisible being chanelled through a man in a robe.

Kspraydad said:
Another one that can’t keep up. Having a gay relationship was equated to interracial marriage … not by me. I’m challenging that. I didn’t make a comment on choice…I questioned someone else’s comment. FFS if you guys can’t even parse simple sentences no wonder this country is fucked.

You’re actually the one who failed to parse my statement. See if you can figure out where you went wrong, before you start ridiculing others.

CosmosDan said:
I’m not the one having trouble keeping up. You made an absurd statement and I answered with one. Mine was on purpose, was yours?

I didn’t make a statement…I summarized yours. Somehow I doubt yours was to be provocative.

Bunny said:
At least the dude is saying it all up front rather than hiding everything til after the election. People know what they’re getting when deciding to vote for/against him.

No argument there. and to take it a step further, people can be effective leaders with obvious character flaws. Being governor is complex. A failing in one area doesn’t mean you can’t succeed in others.

camille522 said:
At least he stands for Christian values.

Could you explain what Christian Values says it’s all right to have a child by a woman while being married to another woman? Plus what Christian Value says it’s okay to tell another person “I’ll take you out”?

Kspraydad said:
I didn’t make a statement…I summarized yours. Somehow I doubt yours was to be provocative.

okay then, your summary was absurd. know why?

Paula said:
My little nephew visited me over the Summer and stayed for a week. He’s four. He saw two men kissing and even at that age, he was like, “Auntie P! Auntie P! Those men are KISSING!”

Its not natural; we all know its not. Carl Paladino had the guts to finally say so.

Don’t act like because your nephew’s so young and said so means that makes it more right; it just shows how infantile homophobia is (of course your nephew wasn’t being homophobic, but if an adult were to react like that, which many do, then that would be).

As for the natural comment. Are you referring to back-to-basics, neanderthal going-at-it in the woods? Much like the animal kingdom then? The animal kingdom which is plentiful in homosexuality? And while we’re on it, two humans having sex is the most natural thing in the world (if such a thing exists, which it doesn’t), just because one combination results in pregnancy and the other two don’t, doesn’t take anything away from them. Besides, why does it matter what’s “natural” and what’s not?

As for your comment on lifestyles, are you asserting that every single gay person lives the stereotype of flamboyant/butch?

I got a big kick tonight when teabagging FREAK and unpopular heterophobe Anderson Cooper was interviewing M&M about using the term ‘faggot’ and apparently hating on gays. Marshall Mathers said that the community he grew up in detested gays and used that “f-word” all the time to describe what they thought was a despicable sub-culture. However thought that it would be taught in our public educational dreck-holes and propagated as a wonderful life-style on the Alphabet Soon-to-be-dead networks and dead-tree newspapers? Good for Carl Paladino and one of the things I admire about Islam is that practicing homos are publicly executed, exept in countries where the offending body extensions are publicly [and "pubicly"] lopped off…! In that instance, maybe Shar’iah Law should be adopted stateside. I wonder how Anderson 360 would feel about that, as his evening agitprop sinks into underwater ratings territory?

Paula said:
Its actually high time that SOMEBODY put an end to the radical gay agenda and stood up to these gay and lesbian fascists. Good for Carl Paladino! I’m bisexual, but I don’t see the need — as some do –to CONSTANTLY assault people with my sexual identIty. I think its just obnoxious to do so. But there’s a radical element— just as there is a radical feminist element — that wants to put it “out there” 24/7/365. I wouldn’t want my child to be gay or lesbian; those are terrible lifestyles. And telling children that its somehow “normal” is just the worst kind of thuggery and lying. My little nephew visited me over the Summer and stayed for a week. He’s four. He saw two men kissing and even at that age, he was like, “Auntie P! Auntie P! Those men are KISSING!” Its not natural; we all know its not. Carl Paladino had the guts to finally say so.

I’m not sure if this is a serious post or just a set-up. What “radical gay agenda” do you refer to? And what is the “gay lifestyle?” I had a gay roommate just after college, knew the guy since early high school, and lived with him for over a year before I found out he was gay. Probably would have never found out if an old girlfriend hadn’t gotten nosy and went into his bedroom one time when she was in our condo by herself and found gay porn. I was floored, had no idea the guy was gay. Lived with him another year until the girlfriend and I got our own place. The guy’s “lifestyle” was no different than anyone else’s.

Gays do not “choose” to be gay. People don’t wake up one morning and think to themselves “I think it might be cool to be gay.” Do I see homosexuality as normal and natural? No, not really. I don’t care if you believe in God, Allah, science, or the Wizard of Oz, I don’t see how someone can look at how [God, Allah, science, or the Wizard of Oz] built male and female bodies to be sexually compatible in every way and say that sex between two men or two women is natural behavior. That said, the fact that gays are demonized or belittled for something that is not a choice is a sad thing.

It’s natural behaviour because it’s acted on the exact same instincts which make straight people have sex. It’s done out of love, lust, desperation, fun, companionship, insecurity, comfort, boredom, loneliness (the list goes on). These are the exact same reasons a man and a woman will have sex. You can argue all you want about straight sex being natural because “that’s how it’s always been done”, but the most natural thing of all is to act out of instinct, and that’s all that anyone’s ever done.

David Mangan said:
I got a big kick tonight when teabagging FREAK and unpopular heterophobe Anderson Cooper was interviewing M&M about using the term ‘faggot’ and apparently hating on gays. Marshall Mathers said that the community he grew up in detested gays and used that “f-word” all the time to describe what they thought was a despicable sub-culture. However thought that it would be taught in our public educational dreck-holes and propagated as a wonderful life-style on the Alphabet Soon-to-be-dead networks and dead-tree newspapers? Good for Carl Paladino and one of the things I admire about Islam is that practicing homos are publicly executed, exept in countries where the offending body extensions are publicly [and "pubicly"] lopped off…! In that instance, maybe Shar’iah Law should be adopted stateside. I wonder how Anderson 360 would feel about that, as his evening agitprop sinks into underwater ratings territory?

Soooo let me guess, you’re a xtian, you’re a republican, and this is what you support..
http://tinyurl.com/2eqevzw
http://tinyurl.com/34pa9rr

>b>@dandmb50
Think he should pack it in now. Or did he plan this just to get on the front page? Whatever, this guy is a real loose cannon, but it’s happened before when the worst candidate get’s his name out there and wins.

Daniel .. Toronto, CANADA
http://bit.ly/bKGa13

Paladino is an old guy running for Governor. And shock of all shocks he is a dick. What do we want him do fix NY State? Or be the moral example to represent NY State to the world ? Would it be nice if he tolerated all peoples? Yeah, but seriously he is old school and if you haven’t noticed over the past few weeks a complete dick. But do you really you think Cuomo is the moral superior and therefore should take the Governorship? Can’t we just man up and figure out who would be better for the state?

So what he PALADINO doesn’t agree or promote homosexual life style?
I feel the same way. I am no homophobe, neither do I accept
any theory that homosexual people are lesser beings, etc ,, That’s BS>
They are part of society, our sisters brothers etc.. But lets not kid ourselves;Not perfect!

in fact any violence
directed to gays, should be dealt harshly, & automatic death penalty for
murder if proven to be bias caused as a result to hatred of “the gay- alternative life style”
But there is a lot left to be desired from that life style… it is dangerous, HIV wise,
it is harsh in their own community and if not born gay, there is no reason, it should be promoted
as a wonderful glamorous life style ‘choice’ to be adopted as opposed to heterosexuality.

I grew up in the 70′s & 80′s lived the lifestyle surrounded by it till today…
There are still serious health issues, emotional problems, personal dilemmas
lots of personal struggles that plague this community…
No one dares to discuss the serious problems, of course….
No one should judge, but to say it is a life style that should be chosen as a glamor
life style,that is BS>

Telling kindergarten students it’s OK to be gay, is ludicrous.(As one example)
Young children have to grow old enough to allow themselves to understand what they truly are*
not what they should be … Boys that young age & up to 15-16 sometimes think if they happen to
look at graphic images & get excited, or enjoy,, that* alone means they are gay…

Bottom line: If u want to peddle lifestyles,pedddle all kinds of.. W/pros & cons,
honestly & allow people LIKE PALADINO to have their own personal opinions. Free Country.

promiscuity,
self loathing & anger, general disrespect among gays still very strong …
I’d say young alternative lifestyles need unlimited free psychological care,
more then promoters.

After the flacid interview Anderson did with Eminem last night on “60 Minutes”, giving him a pass for using the word faggot., I guess he will be giving old Carl a pass for his hate speech against homosexuals on the next AC360.

Bunny said:
At least the dude is saying it all up front rather than hiding everything til after the election. People know what they’re getting when deciding to vote for/against him.

I agree. Although, for me, stick a fork in him, he’s done.

Just like Obama was when he threw his gay bigot roadshow down in South Carolina. He did the same thing then, in my opinion, that Paladino did here. Obama pandered to conservative Christian African Americans with his Donnie Mcclurkin trio of gay bashers, he was just “smart” enough to not say anything himself. But the meaning, and result were just the same.

Obama never marched in a Gay Pride Parade either. And as I recall, he drew a lot of controversy from the gays for having Rev. Rick Warren deliver the invocation at Obama’s inauguration. And Obama is against gay marriage.

Sound like two peas in a pod, to me.
Of course everyone will defend Obama….

Carl Paladino said, “I just think my children and your children would be much better off and much more successful getting married and raising a family, and I don’t want them brainwashed into thinking that homosexuality is an equally valid and successful option — it isn’t.”

Upon reading that statement, Obama’s “Safe Schools Czar” comes to mind. All you have to do is do a search for “Kevin Jennings, Fistgate” and one might possibly see where Paladino is coming from.

realitycheck said:
Paladino is an old guy running for Governor. And shock of all shocks he is a dick. What do we want him do fix NY State? Or be the moral example to represent NY State to the world ? Would it be nice if he tolerated all peoples? Yeah, but seriously he is old school and if you haven’t noticed over the past few weeks a complete dick. But do you really you think Cuomo is the moral superior and therefore should take the Governorship? Can’t we just man up and figure out who would be better for the state?

Two bad candidates – what else is new, right? We had the same thing in the 2008 Presidential election, and you see it in some congressional and senate races this year. If I was a New Yorker looking for someone to run my state and my choices were Cuomo and Paladino, I’d be pretty damn disappointed.

God I hope this man is elected. He’s a man, a real man. He protects his family and refuses to call abnormal normal. By the way, what about “Vote for Cuomo, not the homo”. Andrew was behind that campaign for his father…right? As for the left, if you make enough noise about Paladino, maybe voters won’t see how creepy Cuomo is.

Oh Carl Carl Carl.. nice knowing ya…

murf said:
Yeah Alamo, I’m pretty sure a guy who is a strong traditional marriage proponent

If by traditional marriage, you mean having an affair and knocking up another woman, your spot on!

gammaray said:
It’s natural behaviour because it’s acted on the exact same instincts which make straight people have sex. It’s done out of love, lust, desperation, fun, companionship, insecurity, comfort, boredom, loneliness (the list goes on). These are the exact same reasons a man and a woman will have sex. You can argue all you want about straight sex being natural because “that’s how it’s always been done”, but the most natural thing of all is to act out of instinct, and that’s all that anyone’s ever done.

Take love out of the equation (and we are talking about heterosexuality vs. homosexuality here, not love) and the same thing can be said about beastiality or pedophilia. I’m in no way comparing these things to homosexuality, only making the point that because something is done out of lust, desperation, fun, comfort, etc. does not make it normal behavior. Science/evolution built the male and female body to be sexually compatible. Two male bodies are not built to be sexually compatible. Sex between two males is not normal sexual behavior. I know this is the age of love, acceptance, political correctness, etc. but this fact is so obvious there can be no logical debate about it. As I said before, that that gays are demonized or belittled for something that is not a choice is despicable.

Did Paladino make the point he was trying to make in an extremely unpolished way? Of course, he seems to do everything that way. He reminds me of a character in the movie The Godfather. However, the point he was clumsily trying to make is that public grade school is absolutely no place for discussion of gay issues or a gay curriculum. And on that point, he is 100% on the money.

Once again, the headline is a LIE. I just don’t understand why Dan allows this level of outright slander by putting words into someone’s mouth. Carl said this:

“…..brainwashed into thinking that homosexuality is an equally valid and successful option — it isn’t.”

The headline says this:

“Carl Paladino Attacks Gays: Children Shouldn’t Be “Brainwashed” Into Homosexuality”

In SOP, Glynnis distorts the statement and creates some false headline just to get hits, or something. It does mediaite no good when a columnist distorts the statement and creates a false impression of what was said.

Again, where the heck is Dan to bring both sanity and reality back to mediaite? Where is he to enforce his own mission statement? How the heck does the headline meet this statement from Dan?:

Mediaite is the site for news, information and smart opinions about print, online and broadcast media, offering original and immediate assessments of the latest news as it breaks.

This headline is not informational, nor smart, nor original (it mimics the rest of the Lamestreamers)….it is misrepresentative of what was said.

sarainitaly said:
I agree. Although, for me, stick a fork in him, he’s done. Just like Obama was when he threw his gay bigot roadshow down in South Carolina. He did the same thing then, in my opinion, that Paladino did here. Obama pandered to conservative Christian African Americans with his Donnie Mcclurkin trio of gay bashers, he was just “smart” enough to not say anything himself. But the meaning, and result were just the same. Obama never marched in a Gay Pride Parade either. And as I recall, he drew a lot of controversy from the gays for having Rev. Rick Warren deliver the invocation at Obama’s inauguration. And Obama is against gay marriage. Sound like two peas in a pod, to me.Of course everyone will defend Obama….

I agree with you 100% Sara N. Italy. We should encourage hate-filled, bigoted, inflammatory speech as part of our public discourse. If that means we are pandering to the base elements of our society, so be it. After all their votes count just as much as anybody elses. And, if a couple of gay kids get roughed up or even killed in the process, well, colatteral damage, as they say. You are right on this one.

TfT said:
Once again, the headline is a LIE. Carl said this: “…..brainwashed into thinking that homosexuality is an equally valid and successful option — it isn’t.” The headline says this: “Carl Paladino Attacks Gays: Children Shouldn’t Be “Brainwashed” Into Homosexuality” In SOP, Glynnis distorts the statement and creates some false headline. This headline is not informational….it is misrepresentative of what was said.

You’ll get comments slamming you for saying this, and some good old “thumbs down”……as if any of it is untrue. One can simply read the most important part of your comments that I pasted above, and realize (unless their own bias blinds them) that there is no argument to what you say.

Andy Lamb said:
Two bad candidates – what else is new, right? We had the same thing in the 2008 Presidential election, and you see it in some congressional and senate races this year. If I was a New Yorker looking for someone to run my state and my choices were Cuomo and Paladino, I’d be pretty damn disappointed.

agreed

As pointed out already Glynnis once again puts out a distorted headline.

NO ONE should believe anything Glynnis produces. She is a shill for the Obama administration.

sarainitaly said:
sara

Are you referring to when he hosted a rally with McClurkin as a speaker? Well, there’s a glaring difference between that and Paladino’s comments:

- Obama never made such hateful comments himself, in fact, he has championed gay rights. Though many in the gay community thinks he could, and should, have gone further. Such as with “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell”.

- McClurkin is a misguided homosexual man himself. However, during that rally (and since) he turned a corner and forfeited his old rhetoric. In this video, from the rally/gospel, you can hear his own words: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dUp16hFzY8

And then, of course, there’s all of the other well documented actions from Paladino that reveals him to be hateful. To pretend that Obama is somehow his peer in these matters is disingenuous.

I have been reading more about this, and am trying to figure out the entirety of his comments. If his intentions were to speak to the issue of teaching about homosexual sex in elementary school, or something, then I am against it. I wouldn’t want my little kids learning about any kind of sex at a young age – especially by someone like Kevin Jennings.

I watched this video of Paladino:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/39611970#39611970

And it does sound like this mediaite post, and the media are making this more than it was. Although, this is not good:
“I just think my children and your children would be much better off and much more successful getting married and raising a family, and I don’t want them brainwashed into thinking that homosexuality is an equally valid and successful option — it isn’t.”
Is he saying that he doesn’t want kids taught at a very young age that they can chose to be gay or straight, it doesn’t matter, there’s no difference – like it might *sway* kids to be gay?

WRT the gay pride parade and kids – My dad’s friend took us to the Gay Pride Parade on Castro in San Francisco when I was 12 (1978 – Harvey Milk’s last parade) and I can tell ya, that was no place for a kid. My eyes were probably like saucers.

I sort of see where hes coming from. If the whole human race was gay, there would be no human race. Thus, its not normal. It is dysfunctional and to promote it as some sort of viable option for anyone is wrong. That doesn’t mean i hate gay people, but ytou have to be honest and admit its not a functional human trait to be gay.

Some_Dude said:
To pretend that Obama is somehow his peer in these matters is disingenuous.

To pretend that Obama wasn’t pandering to win the Conservative Christian African American vote in SC with the trio of gay bigots is disingenuous.

To ignore that Obama is against gay marriage, invited Warren to deliver the invocation, never marched in a gay pride parade, refused to be photographed with Newsom because of his stance on same sex marriage, and is dragging his heels on DADT is disingenuous.

In that link Donnie says *God delivered me from homosexuality*, i.e. God cured me of homosexuality. Sounds like the same old rhetoric to me.

Dude – Here he explains his *deliverance*
http://blackgaygossip.com/index.php/2009/04/08/donnie-mcclurkin-talks-about-fighting-gay-desire/

sarainitaly said:
I have been reading more about this, and am trying to figure out the entirety of his comments. If his intentions were to speak to the issue of teaching about homosexual sex in elementary school, or something, then I am against it. I wouldn’t want my little kids learning about any kind of sex at a young age – especially by someone like Kevin Jennings. I watched this video of Paladino:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/39611970#39611970 And it does sound like this mediaite post, and the media are making this more than it was. Although, this is not good:“I just think my children and your children would be much better off and much more successful getting married and raising a family, and I don’t want them brainwashed into thinking that homosexuality is an equally valid and successful option — it isn’t.”Is he saying that he doesn’t want kids taught at a very young age that they can chose to be gay or straight, it doesn’t matter, there’s no difference – like it might *sway* kids to be gay? WRT the gay pride parade and kids – My dad’s friend took us to the Gay Pride Parade on Castro in San Francisco when I was 12 (1978 – Harvey Milk’s last parade) and I can tell ya, that was no place for a kid. My eyes were probably like saucers.

We have another link in which yet another hate-filled loon is being applauded for assaulting President Obama. When will you people learn that your hate speech, which may or may not be protected speech, often inspires violence, injury and death. Your remarks are imflammatory and are an anathema to American free speech. I should think even in Italy you might realize that. At long last, Be Gone. Spare us further hatred and divisiveness.

sarainitaly said:
I have been reading more about this, and am trying to figure out the entirety of his comments. If his intentions were to speak to the issue of teaching about homosexual sex in elementary school, or something, then I am against it. I wouldn’t want my little kids learning about any kind of sex at a young age – especially by someone like Kevin Jennings.

After watching that video it does seem like it’s just bad wording and politics. He was pandering to a particular group. I noticed he never quite said being gay is a valid lifestyle did he? Is there really a big concern about young children being taught in schools that homosexuality is a valid lifestyle. At the most it seems that it would only be that some couples are different genders, some aren’t.
I can only imagine how challenging and frustrating it must be to go from group to group and have each one of them make their demands on certain positions.

I guess the racist king would like Candiate Paladino better had he the decency to murder the mother of his love child, as was the case of the racist king’s idol Teddy “but it only took me nine hours to report it” Kennedy.

btimsah said:
Perhaps Paladino is a plant by the Democrats. lol just kidding. But as a gay person it always amazes me when people think you can “brainwash” someone into gay sex. Haha, you couldn’t brainwash me into straight sex. Idiocy.

I have plenty of gay friends and they tell me that this is a persistent theme in gay erotica. “Turning out” a straight man. Now you are aghast that someone suggests it?

the real john t said:
Is a man and 2 women “traditional”?

It was for me when I was in my twenties, but not any more.

CosmosDan said:
Is there really a big concern about young children being taught in schools that homosexuality is a valid lifestyle.

These are just a few of the things I know have been of concern to parents – the young age at which these things were attempted.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=11162188
http://americansfortruth.com/news/%E2%80%98gay%E2%80%99-leader-kevin-jennings-says-dream-is-to-%E2%80%98promote-homosexuality%E2%80%99-in-schools.html
http://www.365gay.com/news/sf-bay-schools-phase-out-gay-friendly-curriculum/
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,445865,00.html

RichS said:
btimsah said:
Perhaps Paladino is a plant by the Democrats. lol just kidding. But as a gay person it always amazes me when people think you can “brainwash” someone into gay sex. Haha, you couldn’t brainwash me into straight sex. Idiocy.

I have plenty of gay friends and they tell me that this is a persistent theme in gay erotica. “Turning out” a straight man. Now you are aghast that someone suggests it?

not just in erotica…
http://tinyurl.com/33lxbnc
(google search link)

CosmosDan said:
I can only imagine how challenging and frustrating it must be to go from group to group and have each one of them make their demands on certain positions.

that’s why i wish for campaign finance reform.

sarainitaly said:
These are just a few of the things I know have been of concern to parents – the young age at which these things were attempted.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=11162188
http://americansfortruth.com/news/%E2%80%98gay%E2%80%99-leader-kevin-jennings-says-dream-is-to-%E2%80%98promote-homosexuality%E2%80%99-in-schools.html
http://www.365gay.com/news/sf-bay-schools-phase-out-gay-friendly-curriculum/
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,445865,00.html

I certainly can understand the gay community wanting to teach kids that same sex couples aren’t freaks or gross, but I can also understand parents concerns. You just can’t control what everyone thinks and says. I would think at young ages just trying to teach basic respect and kindness, and that making fun of people for ANY reason is bad, would suffice, Cruelty is cruelty.

sarainitaly said:
that’s why i wish for campaign finance reform.

Me too, I think it should be one of the public’s top priorities to push our representatives.

I don’t see anything wrong with what Paladino said. Homosexuality is un-natural, that much is very clear, and there’s just no good reason that kids should be taught otherwise.

I know I’ll get a bunch of “you’re a homophobe” type comments, but I have no problem with homosexuals on an individual basis. There’s a big difference between thinking that homosexuality is un-natural, and being a homophobe.

CosmosDan said:
I certainly can understand the gay community wanting to teach kids that same sex couples aren’t freaks or gross, but I can also understand parents concerns. You just can’t control what everyone thinks and says. I would think at young ages just trying to teach basic respect and kindness, and that making fun of people for ANY reason is bad, would suffice, Cruelty is cruelty.

Totally agree.

I don’t think any one should be singled out – kids need to be taught that everyone should be treated with respect and kindness.

Mr.Papshmer
I know I’ll get a bunch of “you’re a homophobe” type comments, but I have no problem with homosexuals on an individual basis. There’s a big difference between thinking that homosexuality is un-natural, and being a homophobe.

I’ll agree with you there. My wife grew up in a Baptist household so she doesn’t condone homosexuality, but at the same time, my daughter’s got a male friend who’s gay and my wife thinks the world of him and treats him like the son we never had. I wouldn’t call her homophobic because she doesn’t subscribe to it..generalizations like that are rather unproductive and feel they’re the major cause of conflict in the US.

Mr.Papshmer said:
I don’t see anything wrong with what Paladino said. Homosexuality is un-natural, that much is very clear, and there’s just no good reason that kids should be taught otherwise.

I know I’ll get a bunch of “you’re a homophobe” type comments, but I have no problem with homosexuals on an individual basis. There’s a big difference between thinking that homosexuality is un-natural, and being a homophobe.

There’s nothing unnatural about it, anymore than some people are taller, some people have bigger noses.

Gay couples should be able to express affection in public in the same ways hetero coupes do without derision or worse. It might never occur to you or I that merely holding hands with someone you deeply care for would bring out hatred in others, but people have experienced it repeatedly. Try to imagine living in a society where a large % thinks you’re gross or sick, and refuses to allow you to have equal rights.
We don’t need to teach young kids about homosexuality specifically, but we do need to teach them that cruelty for any reason is unacceptable. Not only with words, but by example.

You can put the word “orientation” behind any conditioned behavior or identity!
There’s nothing innate, unique or pre-determined about homosexual “orientation”.

Maybe Mel Gibson just has an “anti-semitic orientation”, or King Shabazz an “anti-white orientation”!

Paladino, the Tea Party, et. al.. should be the start of a broad-based pushback against not only Obama and this current Marxist Regime…but the whole Progressive mindset that has infested academia, the media, the courts and our nation’s institutions over the past 40 years.

Closed-minded fixations and politically-correct indoctrination PETRIFIES the human condition, it doesn’t advance it!

Andy Lamb said:
Take love out of the equation (and we are talking about heterosexuality vs. homosexuality here, not love) and the same thing can be said about beastiality or pedophilia. I’m in no way comparing these things to homosexuality, only making the point that because something is done out of lust, desperation, fun, comfort, etc. does not make it normal behavior. Science/evolution built the male and female body to be sexually compatible. Two male bodies are not built to be sexually compatible. Sex between two males is not normal sexual behavior. I know this is the age of love, acceptance, political correctness, etc. but this fact is so obvious there can be no logical debate about it. As I said before, that that gays are demonized or belittled for something that is not a choice is despicable.

Did Paladino make the point he was trying to make in an extremely unpolished way? Of course, he seems to do everything that way. He reminds me of a character in the movie The Godfather. However, the point he was clumsily trying to make is that public grade school is absolutely no place for discussion of gay issues or a gay curriculum. And on that point, he is 100% on the money.

I’d say public grade school is exactly the kind of place we should be teaching tolerance and equality for all.

I accept that you’re well informed on the fact that homosexuality isn’t a choice, but you seem to be getting “science built them for sexual compatability” mixed up with “this option has a long term result”. I could even accept for arguments sake that homosexuality isn’t natural, but who cares what is ‘natural’ and what’s not?

And the fact that it is done out of said instincts makes it incredibly normal, just as much so as straight sex. Those instincts are the among the reasons humans have done everything they’ve ever done. The cause and actions are the same, the only difference is the effect. But what does it matter what the effect is? How does something which happens after the action make what is happening in the present any more/less natural?

NORBIT said:
Closed-minded fixations and politically-correct indoctrination PETRIFIES the human condition, it doesn’t advance it!

You’re complaining about people who are close-minded and people who are progressive? That’s a fallacy in itself. The whole idea of progressivism is opening up to new ideas and trying them out, which funnily enough is the whole idea of being open-minded.

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/bad5e4bc76/g-a-y-s-guys-against-you-serving-part-2?rel=player

Glyniss MacNicole said in the article : I have a hard time believing that even the majority of typically more conservative upstate New Yorkers think that children can be “brainwashed” into believing they are gay……

Paladino said : I don’t want them brainwashed into thinking that homosexuality is an equally valid and successful option — it isn’t.”

2 completely different things

rshaw said:
Glyniss MacNicole said in the article : I have a hard time believing that even the majority of typically more conservative upstate New Yorkers think that children can be “brainwashed” into believing they are gay……

Paladino said : I don’t want them brainwashed into thinking that homosexuality is an equally valid and successful option — it isn’t.”

2 completely different things

But both just as idiotic.

gordonbloyershow said:
As pointed out already Glynnis once again puts out a distorted headline

Correct. What the headline said is “Carl Paladino Attacks Gays: Children Shouldn’t Be “Brainwashed” Into Homosexuality”

What Paladino said was children shouldn’t be “brainwashed” into thinking that homosexuality is an equally valid and successful option — it isn’t.”

Without regard to whether one believes there is merit or not to the arguments, these suggest two different things. If the author believes the truth is self evident then she shouldn’t feel the need to change the quote to something more inflammatory.

Free speech may be the bedrock of our society, but the right to free speech without government interference doesn’t mean that your fellow citizens don’t have the right to vote for someone else. Actions have consequences, and that is not unfair, let alone unconstitutional.
We all need to understand that the Bill of Rights has to do with our legal rights vis a vis government, and that is all. Free speech doesn’t mean there are no social or personal consequences to speech. It doesn’t mean you shouldn’t be defeated in an election because of what you say. In fact, that’s the best reason to vote against someone–you don’t like what they say, and you don’t want them in power.
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Gays should not brainwash their children! That should be left up to the tea baggers! They will teach your children to hold up their signs of hate ( that they are to young to read) , during a rally, they know where to fit your kids for a white hood or Nazi uniform and there are classes on not being a witch! They also have free grape drink! Mamma Bear says “let us brainwash your kids for you”! God Bless the tea party!

Andy Lamb said:
I’ve been asked by a couple people “why do you see Paladino and O’Donnell on the news SO much, they are both down by 20% in the polls yet you see them ALL the time?” I see the same question on here, why the obsession with these two? It’s really quite simple, the Democratic party and their agents in the media are trying to paint these two as the face of, as representative of, ALL Republican candidates in ALL races. You can’t fault the strategy. It’s not working, and it won’t work, but you can’t blame them for trying. They’re just trying to somehow minimize the brutal beating they’re facing on November 2nd.

There’s also the old saying about media: “If it bleeds, it leads.” Scandals, gaffes and controversy get much more print than integrity.