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Herman Cain And Glenn Beck Agree: ‘Anti-Capitalism’ Wall Street Protest Is Trying To Start Revolution

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Herman Cain appeared on Glenn Beck’s radio show today and the interview started particularly goofy and light with Beck playing sexy music while Cain described his “999″ plan for some “Conservative eroticism.” However, once that was done, the interview took a more serious turn as both Cain and Beck described their beliefs that the Occupy Wall Street protesters are, at best, trying to distract from Barack Obama’s failings and, at worst, trying to sow revolution.

These theories were nothing new for Beck but seemed fairly strong coming from a presidential candidate.

It started when Beck asked Cain his thoughts on the protest:

“First of all, the Wall Street protesters are anti-capitalism. The Wall Street protesters represent, in my opinion – I don’t have factual information – It is an attempt to distract from the failed policies of the Obama administration and so they want to blame the fat cats, they want to blame Wall Street for the fact that 14 million people are still out of work. They want to blame the fat cats for the fact that the economy is not growing when it is all the responsibility of failed policies of Obama and his administration. That’s all that is.”

The idea that they are shills for the president would probably be news to some of the protesters who are just as angry at Obama for not being hard enough on the banks involved in the economic recession.

Cain went on to say that, if the protesters just wanted people to go to jail over those crimes, that would be one thing. But, if they want taxes to penalize those who have been successful, they’re advocating “class warfare.”

Beck took it further, bringing up his belief that the entire thing has been organized by the likes of Stephen Lerner and the SEIU who have been plotting it for months or years to bring about a full revolution (the Lerner connection is something Beck began advocating after finding what he believed was a video taped confession last March).

Cain replied that he had assumed they were behind it but didn’t have the information yet. Beck promised to send it to him and Cain said that would be very helpful.

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  • Michelle

    Yeah, that Beck is crazy!

    ‘This Is Revolution Not Reform’ — Occupy Wall
    Street Organizer to ‘Excited’ Al Sharpton: We Are Anarchists and
    Revolutionaries,‘This Is the Beginning of a Revolution in This Country’

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/this-is-revolution-not-reform-occupy-wall-street-organizer-to-excited-al-sharpton-we-are-anarchists-and-revolutionaries-this-is-the-beginning-of-a-revolution-in-this-country/

  • Michelle

    Cheering Economic Terrorism – SEIU Getting Ready
    to ‘Terrify’ DC: Stephen Lerner at SEIU Meeting Outlines Rules for
    Creating a Crisis — We Want Their Kids to Hate Them, Name Enemies Like
    Glenn Beck, Shut Down Bridges, Long Occupations, Recruit Tea Party

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/cheering-economic-terrorism-seiu-getting-ready-to-terrify-dc-steven-lerner-at-sieu-meeting-outlines-rules-to-creating-a-crisis-we-want-there-kids-to-hate-them-name-enemies-like-glenn-beck-shut-d/

    The left wants violence.  I just hope they are ready for the consequences.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VZ6ZEMR7OJKTOCICKUVD2SCCZI Mark

    “The Tea Party protesters represent, in my opinion – I don’t have
    factual information – It is an attempt to distract from the failed
    policies of the Bush administration and GOP leadership over the last 8 years and so they want to blame the unions, they want to blame the poor for the fact that 14 million people
    are still out of work. They want to blame the teachers for the fact
    that the economy is not growing when it is all the responsibility of
    failed policies of Bush and his administration. That’s all that is.”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VZ6ZEMR7OJKTOCICKUVD2SCCZI Mark

    Hi Michelle!  Do you have any more Blaze links you can vomit onto us? :)

  • Anonymous

    lol….teabloggers write off these protesters as a few disgruntled dirty hippies and Beck sees them as the Worldwide Marxist Revolution.

    Which crazy theory to believe?

  • Anonymous

    There is nothing wrong with tying these loons to the Marxist.  They are admitted Marxists and they know the President has deeply held Marxist beliefs.

    While Obama hasn’t stated outright that the unemployed should have 20 dollars an hour, he’s closely associated with those who do. 

  • Anonymous

    Wall Street Protestors Are Intellects With A Legitimate Grievance !!!

    Tea Party Protestors Are Stupid And Spit On Black People !!!

  • Anonymous

    Another Michelle Stalker !!!

  • Anonymous

    Fine. Revolution, followed by counter-revolution. Let the chips fall. People can get off their butts & move, or die at their keyboards.

  • Concerned Citizen

    This is what happens when the president and his followers use class warfare and racism for political gain. Will it really be a surprise if these anti-capitalist protests turn violent? Unintended consequences.

  • Irish189

     does anyone really take Glenn Beck seriously?

  • Irish189

     does anyone really take Glenn Beck seriously?

  • Michelle

    It’s almost as if that what they want. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VZ6ZEMR7OJKTOCICKUVD2SCCZI Mark

    Hi TRCJ!  Your three exclamation points make me sad for you.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VZ6ZEMR7OJKTOCICKUVD2SCCZI Mark

    Of course Irish!  Paranoid retirees take him VERY seriously. 

  • Charlie Kane

    ” A conspiracy so vast ……” Two paranoids who should be in padded cells.

  • Indigo710

    They are being funded by Moveon, Moveon is funded by Soros.  Soros has stated in an interview that he he gladly use his huge ( and considerable ) fortune to bring down  the USA.   With 0bama & Co. he has his stooges.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t forget, the most important thing is if they pick up their litter, amirite teabaggers?

    The most successful revolutions have been the tidy ones!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VZ6ZEMR7OJKTOCICKUVD2SCCZI Mark

    You know, if you use Marxist three times in a single post, you win a cookie!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VZ6ZEMR7OJKTOCICKUVD2SCCZI Mark

    Well, you certainly are Capitalizing Like a Crazed Internet Commenter. 

  • Anonymous

    Support  http://www.occupytogether.org/

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VZ6ZEMR7OJKTOCICKUVD2SCCZI Mark

    That Kenyan President of ours is such as racist!  Let’s string him up!

  • Anonymous

    “I don’t have factual information”

    The teabagger mating call.

  • Michelle

    He’s not the one in the video.  Should we take the person in the video seriously?  Or is it just easier for you libs to shoot the messenger than respond to the video?

  • Anonymous

    Is the tea party whining about people protesting??

    really?

  • Anonymous

    That E4 stuff reminds me of Scientology for some reason.

  • Michelle

    Nah, we’ll just vote his butt out of office and send him back to the gold course where he can’t do so much damage. 

  • Anonymous

    9-9-9 !

    How’s That ?

  • Anonymous

    Silly anti-capitalist revolutionists…..Conservatives own the vast majority of weapons in this Country.

  • Michelle

    Do you realize how stupid you look when I provide a video, not of glenn, but of someone admitting it’s a revolution and all you can do in return is shoot the messenger?  It’s embarrassing, really. 

  • Anonymous

    Something tells me you are not being sarcastic..you actually believe what you said….good grief!

  • Fudge441

    When intellectuals like Cain and Beck speak you have to listen.

  • Anonymous

    Exclamation Points Are Underrated !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Concerned Citizen

    Well he was a 20 year member of a black separatist church who don’t like whites and is anti-Semitic.

  • http://www.davidjkramer.co.cc// DavidKramer

    I got pictures of the leftist twits in ABQ NM banging their drums and swinging the CHE flag calling for the marxist revolution.

    Like Ann Barnhardt likes to say, bring it you wimps.

  • Anonymous

    HOORAY!!! VEILED THREATS!!!

  • Indigo710

    0bama wants it to turn violent,……martial law, no elections.

  • Anonymous

    Well you cowards should go back to your basements and continue being afraid!

    Clowns!!!!

  • Concerned Citizen

    Cain graduated from Morehouse College in 1967 with a Bachelor of Arts degree in mathematics, and received a Master of Science degree in computer science from Purdue University in 1971,[9] when he was also working full-time in ballistics for the U.S. Department of the Navy. Cain became a member of the board of directors of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City in 1992 and served as its chairman from January 1995 to August 1996, when he resigned to become active in national politics.[11] Cain was a 1996 recipient of the Horatio Alger Award.[12]Cain was on the board of directors of Aquila, Inc. from 1992 to 2008, and also served as a board member for Nabisco, Whirlpool, Reader’s Digest, and AGCO, Inc  Yeah maybe you should listen.

  • Michelle

    Well we do have Dems out there calling for elections to be cancelled.

  • Anonymous

    If these protesters aren’t careful Obama will send one of his drones to ‘take care of business’.

  • Anonymous

    Got Ya’ !!

  • Anonymous

    Sounds like you’re full of fear

  • Anonymous

    Fact: You should vomit at the sight of socialism marching in the streets of NY!

  • Anonymous

    Um wait I thought government didn’t create jobs and only private industry does? 

    Will these Baggers make up their minds already? 5 years until this country resembles Idiocracy with this moronic Baggers.

  • Cygnus

    Kind of reminds me of the time Obama’s friend got arrested up in Mass.  I think Obama said the same thing before he said the cops acted stupidly.

  • Fudge441

    He’s obviously a genius as is Beck. Do you think it’s fair to label Beck fans as useful idiots? Seems like they might be.

  • Nancillarypeloslinton

    Barack Hitler Obama’s people are paying for this bullshit. Where’s the estimable Mayor Richard J. Daley when we need him?

  • Michelle

    Are your refuting what they are saying?  Yes or No?  And before you answer, I posted a link to an admission that yes, it’s a revolution. 

  • Anonymous

    Fact: You are finally hitting it to the green on this post!

  • Anonymous

    actually i think the gangsters do.  are they democrat or republican?

  • Irish189

    why should i take the one in the video any more seriously then Glenn Beck?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VZ6ZEMR7OJKTOCICKUVD2SCCZI Mark

    Thanks TRCJ!  What an excellent plan this Kenyan is offering!  It’s about time we raise taxes on the unwealthy! 

  • Anonymous

    Fact:Teabaggers means the insertion of one
    man’s sack into another person’s mouth. Used a practical joke or prank, when
    performed on someone who is asleep, or as a sexual act this is an act of a
    democrat.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VZ6ZEMR7OJKTOCICKUVD2SCCZI Mark

    More embarrassing than posting 1,000s of posts on a website a day?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VZ6ZEMR7OJKTOCICKUVD2SCCZI Mark

    I vomit in your general direction.

  • Anonymous

    Fact: 2012 elections can’t come quick enough. We will all rid ourselves of the liberal slime in the ice machine group of whimps aka Demarodents in office!

  • Anonymous

    Well both the Teaparty and Wall Street protestors are anti bailout. Interesting to see people whining about and denouncing each other when they are both born off the same anger for the same thing.

    So how about dem tbaggas and crazy lefties herp derp herp derp.

    The lack of intelligence between hipper partisan ideologues never fails to disappoint.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VZ6ZEMR7OJKTOCICKUVD2SCCZI Mark

    Does one person speak for an entire group?  Of course they do!  That’s how we’ve known that the Tea Party is full of old racist white people.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VZ6ZEMR7OJKTOCICKUVD2SCCZI Mark

    Soros soros soros.  Vagina vagina vagina.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VZ6ZEMR7OJKTOCICKUVD2SCCZI Mark

    Nice Capitalization!

  • Anonymous

    Hey, don’t tell me…tell Websters Dictionary….

    Teabagging:
    verb (used with object)

    1 – An adult act performed by consenting republican/conservatives on each other to express their fake outrage to imaginary tax increases (most of these idiots actually just got a tax break)

    During this act one republican/conservative nut job drops his pants in public and slowly lowers his scrotum into the eager mouth of another right wing nut lover.

    Some basic Teabagging participation rules

    1: Participants have to be very low income (preferably on welfare)
    2: Participants have to be avid Fox News watchers (this makes certain the participants are brainwashed to the extent of being borderline retarded)
    3: Participants have to be republican/conservative

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VZ6ZEMR7OJKTOCICKUVD2SCCZI Mark

    But will all the poor, obese, uneducated Southerns want to get off the couch and help?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VZ6ZEMR7OJKTOCICKUVD2SCCZI Mark

    I agree!  Can you believe all the jobs lost in 2008 thanks to this Black!

  • Michelle

    Well considering Obama said that SEIU’s agenda is his agenda, maybe you should, moron.

  • Anonymous

    Fact: I laugh at your type so hard and so often I have beer foam coming out my nose right now!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VZ6ZEMR7OJKTOCICKUVD2SCCZI Mark

    Unnecessary Capitalization is for Mouthbreathers!!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VZ6ZEMR7OJKTOCICKUVD2SCCZI Mark

    And He’s Kenyan!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VZ6ZEMR7OJKTOCICKUVD2SCCZI Mark

    Excellent Point Michelle! 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VZ6ZEMR7OJKTOCICKUVD2SCCZI Mark

    Excellent Point Michelle! 

  • Anonymous

    You say “admitting it’s a revolution” as though because the guy used the word we should all know exactly what that means.  He may mean that this is the beginning of an armed overthrow of American democracy.  Or he may just mean that something is happening and it’s a big deal.  People have a tendency to just throw that word around.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VZ6ZEMR7OJKTOCICKUVD2SCCZI Mark

    2009 called.  It wants its race-baiting story back.

    Just for fun, I’m going to send a black cop to your home to arrest you.  Don’t worry we’ll also send Andrew Breitbart with him so he can fairly cover your arrest.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VZ6ZEMR7OJKTOCICKUVD2SCCZI Mark

    But really, has the TP ever really stopped whining?

  • Indigo710

    Care to compare your resume to Cain,s?

  • Fudge441

    I think you mean refudinating.

  • TbagsRstupid

    lol

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VZ6ZEMR7OJKTOCICKUVD2SCCZI Mark

    Emptiest.Threat.Ever.

  • Anonymous

    Fact: Broad section of America that want monitary stability make up the Tea Party and all that don’t are just suck ups that want entitlements for nothing freeloaders!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VZ6ZEMR7OJKTOCICKUVD2SCCZI Mark

    I posted a video of someone saying that the Tea Party is full of resentful racist idiots.  Do you refute this?  it’s on a video, so, basically, it’s true.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VZ6ZEMR7OJKTOCICKUVD2SCCZI Mark

    More empty threats. :(

  • Roger T

    Now that is paranoid…You really think that Soros said he wanted to use his money to bring down the USA?
    C’mon that is just not realistic..
    Many people from the right/left were anti Wall Street and up in arms about their practices..
    So now when people have organized a rally in opposition-why are people on the Right so offended?

  • Norbit

    These dupes on Wall Street have a legitimate complaint, but they should not be encompassing all of corporate America with it.

    The people responsible for the exploding income disparity over the past two decades, as well as the and the dismantling of our capitalist system, are the Big Banks and Financiers – in collusion with their government whores!
    .
    THEY are the ones misdirecting what used to be investment funds, instead, into trading machinations and m&a’s that engorge their own net worths, at the expense of the broader economy.  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VZ6ZEMR7OJKTOCICKUVD2SCCZI Mark

    Yeah, I’m a big fan of Hitler’s too.

  • Anonymous

    Fact: You might want to take the balls out of your mouth before posting BS!

  • Indigo710

    If you were to read all that Beck has talked about over the years,( the people, their backgrounds, the connections to each other ) you would  know that he has been right .

  • Fudge441

    Aren’t these two brainiacs charter members of the Baggers United Think Tank?

  • Irish189

    right about what specifically?
     

  • TbagsRstupid

    I find no information about such an interview, could you please send me a link?

    I do find a bunch of NWO freaks who claim that that is what he wants to do.

    Meanwhile, some good reading on other Soros links
    From the Christian Science  Monitor
    George Soros gives $27 million to Africa project
    http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/Latest-News-Wires/2011/1004/George-Soros-gives-27-million-to-Africa-project

    From TheGuardian UK

    George Soros gives $100 million to Human Rights Watch
    Billionaire’s biggest single grant to an American organisation will allow HRW to expand its reach into developing nations
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/sep/07/george-soros-100-million-human-rights-watch

  • Norbit

    Do the Soros-Funded Wall Streeter’s know that Obama gave more taxpayer largesse – in the form of direct bailouts, stimulus, and 0% Fed loans – than any other President, including Bush?

    Shouldn’t they be marching on the White House?

  • Anonymous

    Can’t people protest the corruption and greed of Wall Street without necessarily being “socialists” or “anti-capitalist”?  It seems to me that such terms oversimplify complicated issues.  It’s the same thing as when progressives dismiss conservatives as “racists.” It’s just a conversation killer.

    BTW, there’s very little about your comment that has to do with “facts.”

  • TbagsRstupid

    I almost laughed.

    This is actually a very sad, sad place we have arrived.

  • TbagsRstupid

    Michelle
    Pablo

  • Indigo710

    Bev Pudure, deomcrat govenor of North Carolina is on   record concerning cancelling elections.

  • Wake up America

    Obamas objective was always to start a revolution in the streets of America. Obama hates the nation as it stands. He has and will create bloodshed in the streets. Today the unions are joining in the streets. If Obama cannot win on his record he will win by class warfare. For those of you that still believe Obama had your best interest, you will soon find out different. Obama is going to cause massive unrest and he will blame of course ” the Republicans” or ” Bush”. The guy is a joke, however the joke is on us!

  • Norbit

    Isn’t it funny, the Dems had the first “black” president in Clinton, then they had the first “Black” President in (1/2-1/2) Obama; but meanwhile, the GOP might be the party to have the first BLACK PRESIDENT in REALITY!!

    Choke on that thought for awhile, Libbies!
    LOL!

  • Norbit

    Isn’t it funny, the Dems had the first “black” president in Clinton, then they had the first “Black” President in (1/2-1/2) Obama; but meanwhile, the GOP might be the party to have the first BLACK PRESIDENT in REALITY!!

    Choke on that thought for awhile, Libbies!
    LOL!

  • TbagsRstupid

    Now that Sir
    was Hilarious

  • Indigo710

    The only sector that ‘s growing in terms of jobs is the govt. Their saleries, pensions, etc. are paid for by WE, the People.

  • Anonymous

    Mark is under the mistaken notion that he must reply to every post with failed sarcasm !!

  • Anonymous

    Mark is under the mistaken notion that he must reply to every post with failed sarcasm !!

  • Irish189

    Didn’t your parents teach you its not nice to call people names?

  • Norbit

    Textbook “Marxism Takeover 101″!

    It won’t work because the majority of the country is too educated for their Marxist mindset…and the citizenry is powerfully armed.

  • Anonymous

    And when Media Matters does the same exact thing all we get from you is “MAINSTREAM MEDIA MATTERS!!!! OMG LIBERAL KOOKS!!!!!”….

  • Wake up America

    The economy went into the toilet in 2006, Dems took over. Get informed before you comment. The talking points the media provides you are just not working anymore. Again if you’re going to partake in any conversation, don’t just use talking points, use facts. Facts will show that Dems destroy our economy when in charge. Obama had senate, and congress for over two years. He took 876 billion and funneled it to the people that gave him monies for campaign. Shovel ready jobs, never created because he gave money to Cronnies. Does Solyndra mean anything to you? I’m thinking not!

  • Aunt Pittypat

    We will get off the couch & help whip the sorry fat asses of dumb, illiterate, Yankee’s. And an ass as fat & saggy as Mark’s will take weeks to whip. Mark, lay off that Govt cheeze. It’ll kill ya :-)

  • Wake up America

    Lib intelligence, sounds about right. No wonder Obama is sitting in the White House!

  • Aunt Pittypat

    Pathetic replies from brain stem only lib zombies like Mark :-)

  • Randy

    Something tells me this “Revolution” ends when its starts to get cold out.

  • Aunt Pittypat

    “Govt housing & free Govt Cheeze!”
    The Douchebagger mating call.

    Fun Fact. When B_F_D got his nipple pierced he bled vinegar & water! (with a fresh pine sent no less!)

  • Anonymous

    Ok cool Beck rehashed talking point.

    Now how about answering the question. If government isn’t in the business of creating jobs…then how is this all Obama’s fault?

  • guest

    yes, stalking an individual poster is a much better use of ones time .  how embarassing for you .

  • http://twitter.com/Politi_Chick Diane

    Unfortunately for the earnest/naive “revolutionaries”….this movement is about to be co-opted (used)  by Big Labor and the Democrats. When was the last time a “revolution” didn’t take aim at the leader of a country? Notice there doesn’t seem to be any anti-Obama sentiment…

  • Norbit

    Oh, and how great is it that the rank hypocrisy of the “mainstream media” is on full national display in the difference between their bitter Tea Party coverage, and the fawning Wall Street Protest/ Revolution reports!

    The people of the mainstream media are DELIBERATELY misrepresenting the true personality and demeanor of the two groups -  That’s called LYING!

    Incidentally, the same syndrome routinely takes place at the White House.

  • Michelle

    If the name fits, I use it.

  • OSux

    But Fudgepacker441 graduated 6th grade.  That’s an impressive resume for a liberal.

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

     If all Tea Party Members over 65 voluntarily gave up Medicare and Social Security, you might…just might have a point there.

     I don’t see one IOTA of evidence indicating that there’s a big rush to do so.

    –Cobra

  • OSux

    Websters Dictionary of liberal

    1 – flaming homosexual
    2 – live off of the hard work of others
    3 – Watch PMSNBC during one’s time of the month

  • TbagsRstupid

    Mark is quite funny and you are a dumbass.

  • Moosenuts99

    Somehow Ive missed the Obama as Hitler/witch doctor signs at Occupy Wall Street.

    Or,’please link me to pictures of Occupy Wall Streeters CARRYING WEAPONRY

    PLEASE LINK US TO THESE REVELATIONS!!

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    So when conservatives dismiss President Obama’s degree from Columbia University, demanding to see his transcripts, and his law degree from Harvard, where he graduated Magna Cum Laud and was President of the Law Review, exactly how hard do you want an African-American liberal like ME to LAUGH at you when you tout Cain’s academic achievements? 

     Trust me, I’m not belittling Cain, who admits to have received Affirmative Action, but every conscious African-American not on the RNC or Koch Brother’s payroll knows what kind of game you’re playing here.

    –Cobra

  • Moosenuts99

    Civil Rights revolution.

    Would you like us to list more?

  • Moosenuts99

    Keep sucking the corporate teat

  • TbagsRstupid

    OOPS
    I am sorry

    Is Mark taking your gig?

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    I’ll treat Cain like righties treat Obama.

    “Where’s his transcripts?”
    “Affirmative Action!”
    “Morehouse is an historically Black college, so it can’t be as good as a predominantly White school.”

     There. Feel better about Cain now?

    –Cobra

  • Norbit

    They “TOOK THE BRIDGE”!
    heh-heh

  • Moosenuts99

    LOL INDEED!!

    Would love to see the OLD TIMER CONS like my grandparents who send me Obama stimulus emails (y’know,’watermelon seeds, kfc coupon) have to vote for a black guy.

    PLEASE NOMINATE CAIN

    PPPPLLLLEEEAAASSSEEEE

  • Anonymous

    http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/10/03/333925/top-5-reasons-why-the-occupy-wall-street-protests-embody-values-of-the-real-boston-tea-party/

    Top 5 Reasons Why The Occupy Wall Street Protests Embody Values Of The Real Boston Tea Party
    By Lee Fang on Oct 3, 2011 at 7:30 pm

    In recent years, the Boston Tea Party has been associated with a
    right-wing movement that supports policies favoring powerful
    corporations and the wealthy. As ThinkProgress has reported, lobbyists and Republican front groups have driven the current manifestation of the Tea Party to push for giveaways to oil companies and big businesses.
    However, the Occupy Wall Street demonstrations picking up momentum
    across the country better embody the values of the original Boston Tea
    Party. In the late 18th century, the British government became deeply
    entwined with the interests of the East India Trading Company, a massive
    conglomerate that counted British aristocracy as shareholders.
    Americans, upset with a government that used the colonies to enrich the
    East India Trading Company, donned Native American costumes and boarded
    the ships belonging to the company and destroyed the company’s tea. In
    the last two weeks, as protesters have gathered from New York to Los
    Angeles to protest corporate domination over American politics, a true
    Tea Party movement may be brewing:

    1.) The Original Boston Tea Party Was A Civil Disobedience Action Against A Private Corporation. In 1773, agitators blocked the importation of tea by East India Trading Company ships across
    the country. In Boston harbor, a band of protesters led by Samuel Adams
    boarded the corporation’s ships and dumped the tea into the harbor. No
    East India Trading Company employees were harmed, but the destruction of
    the company’s tea is estimated to be worth up to $2 million in today’s money. The Occupy Wall Street protests have targeted
    big banks like Goldman Sachs, Bank of America, as well as multinational
    corporations like GE with sit-ins and peaceful rallies.
    2.) The Original Boston Tea Party Feared That Corporate Greed Would Destroy America. As Professor Benjamin Carp has argued,
    colonists perceived the East India Trading Company as a “fearsome
    monopolistic company that was going to rob them blind and pave the way
    maybe for their enslavement.” A popular pamphlet called The Alarm
    agitated for a revolt against the East India Trading Company by warning
    that the British corporation would devastate America
    just as it had devastated South Asian colonies: “Their Conduct in Asia,
    for some Years past, has given simple Proof, how little they regard the
    Laws of Nations, the Rights, Liberties, or Lives of Men. [...] And
    these not being sufficient to glut their Avarice, they have, by the most
    unparalleled Barbarities, Extortions, and Monopolies, stripped the
    miserable Inhabitants of their Property, and reduced whole Provinces to
    Indigence and Ruin.”
    3.) The Original Boston Tea Party Believed Government Necessary To Protect Against Corporate Excess. Smithsonian historian Barbara Smith has noted
    that Samuel Adams believed that oppression could occur when governments
    are too weak. As Adams explained in a Boston newspaper, government
    should exist “to protect the people and promote their prosperity.”
    Patriots behind the Tea Party revolt believed “rough economic equality
    was necessary to maintaining liberty,” says Smith. Occupy Wall Street
    protesters demand a country that invests in education, infrastructure, and jobs.
    4.) The Original Boston Tea Party Was Sparked By A Corporate Tax Cut For A British Corporation.
    The Tea Act, a law by the British Parliament exempting tea imported by
    the East India Trading Company from taxes and allowing the corporation
    to directly ship its tea to the colonies for sale, is credited with
    setting off the Boston Tea Party. The law was perceived as an effort by
    the British to bailout the East India Trading Company by shutting off
    competition from American shippers. George R.T. Hewes, one of the
    patriots who boarded the East India Trading Company ships and dumped the
    tea, told
    a biographer that the East India Trading Company had twisted the laws
    so “it was no longer the small vessels of private merchants, who went to
    vend tea for their own account in the ports of the colonies, but, on
    the contrary, ships of an enormous burthen, that transported immense
    quantities of this commodity.” Occupy Wall Street demands the end of corporate tax loopholes as well as the enactment of higher taxes on billionaires and millionaires.
    5.) The Original Boston Tea Party Wanted A Stronger Democracy.
    There is a common misconception that the Boston Tea Party was simply a
    revolt against taxation. The truth is much more nuanced, and there were
    many factors behind the opposition to the East India Company and the
    British government. Although the colonists resented taxes levied by a
    distant British Parliament, in the years preceding the Tea Party, the
    Massachusetts colony had levied
    taxes several times to pay for local services. The issue at hand was
    representation and government accountable to the needs of the American
    people. Patrick Henry and other patriots organized the revolutionary
    effort by claiming that legitimate laws and taxes could only be passed
    by legislatures elected by Americans. According to historian Benjamin
    Carp, the protesters in Boston perceived that the British government’s
    actions were set by the East India Trading Company. “As Americans
    learned more about the provisions of the new East India Company laws,
    they realized that Parliament would sooner lend a hand to the Company than the colonies,” wrote Carp.

    Progressive political movements, from Martin Luther King to Mahatma Gandhi, have drawn
    on the original American Boston Tea Party for inspiring civil
    disobedience against oppression. Indeed, the very first Boston Tea Party
    was truly radical and faced scorn from elites and conservatives of the era.

  • Norbit

    Before I take my leave,

    WHAT DID HOLDER KNOW, AND WHEN DID HE KNOW IT?

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    So you’re in favor of “anti-government” Tea Partyers, but not “anti-corporate” Wall Street Occupiers?

    Norbit,  why do you feel that the Koch Brothers care about you so much?

    –Cobra

  • Moosenuts99

    …grandpa?

  • Anonymous
  • Bob

    might take Beck’s criticism seriously if he hadn’t been pushing secession in 2009.

  • Moosenuts99

    WOW! he was a board member for some companies! He must be A GENIUS!!!

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous
  • Michelle

    Ah the resident racist weighs in.  What has whitey done to keep you down today, Cobra!?

  • Michelle

    Barry is an affirmative action candidate.  A white man with the exact same resume would NEVER have gotten the nom over Hillary and if you were honest, you would admit it. 

  • Michelle

    Why do you libs think George Soros cares about you?

  • Michelle

    11 Reasons Why Occupy Wall Street Protesters Are Hypocrites If They Do Not Call For Barack Obama To Resign

    http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/11-reasons-why-occupy-wall-street-protesters-are-hypocrites-if-they-do-not-call-for-barack-obama-to-resign

  • Anonymous

    So because Mister Charlatan Beck says it´s a revolution it´s a bad thing?

    Quiet amusing to hear that from someone who pretends to be all about the Founding Fathers and the American Revolution.

    Revolutions, of course, can be a very good thing. They aren´t by definition violent nor marxist. If the reactionary Beck would have been on air in 1989 he would have spit on the velvet revolution. The Civil Rights Movement revolutionized the society. Anyone got a problem with that revolution?

    The protests are nothing more than peaceful protests against economic injustice so far. The economic and political system is perverted to the point corporations are considered people by the Supreme Court now. That´s insane.  Stop the madness already!

    What the cons are trying to do is a counter-revolution and they proudly claim they want to take the country back to the 19th century and  keep the economic injustice going. 

    Sorry, but can´t expect all folks to have the same sheepish mentality, and blame them for protesting the obvious perversion of the system.

  • Tripled32

    Give me a break… I will say to you what I said to the lefties when they liked to paint the entire tea party as racist because a small percentage of the people attending showed up with racist signs… A small percentage of a groups participants do not speak for the entire group… Just because a couple people in the occupy wall st. group say they are anarcist, and revolutionaries, and anti-capitalist does not mean the whole group shares those views. I just watched an interview w/ Micheal Smerconish talking to one of the protesters at wall st. He has his own web company and believes in capitalism. He’s just pissed at Obama, the Congress, and the banks for being greedy, and corporations for being greedy

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    You conservatives are the only ones who care about Soros.

  • http://mediamatters.org/ Leedog

    Lol!!

  • Anonymous

    Are you a board member for any company? Or too busy blogging in your mother’s basement?

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    So are the tea partiers there also anti-capitalist revolutionaries?

  • http://mediamatters.org/ Leedog

    ?? When has Michelle ever made an excellent point??

  • http://mediamatters.org/ Leedog

    ??

  • Indigo710

    Right about  0bama, his little friends, Andy Stern , Trumka,  Jones, Ayers,  Sunstein, and the rest of the czars. Right about what 0bama is and what he isn’t.  You  have a computer, use it . Do your own research, .

  • http://mediamatters.org/ Leedog

    Woof!!

  • Anonymous

    You are so fu***ing stupid you might even believe that everyone on the street is a fan of Obama and supports every single thing he did.

  • http://mediamatters.org/ Leedog

    The minute Herb Cain left Beck’s studio, Beck probably called him a racist who hates white people… then probably had a whiskey sour and a puff off his crack pipe!!

  • Valkyrie101

    Definition of “revolution”: “…activity or movement designed to effect fundamental changes in the socioeconomic situation.”

    Glenn is certainly right that the protesters would like to spur a revolution. But not a violent revolution.

  • Anonymous

    Norbit, your hood is showing again!

    It’s the TeaBagger Death Cult that’s been ‘choking’ on the fact that we have a black President.

    It’s amazing how much you clowns say about yourselves when you simply read between the lines!

    HILARIOUS!!!!

  • Indigo710

    I watched and listened to Soros say it.  . This so called rally is what 0bama does best,…….community organizing. On not offended by useful idiots.  They are being used and done’t even know it.  
     newswithviews.com/Coffman/mike118.htm
     

  • david r

    I’ve already seen several violent signs and I hear the Fox News crew got spit on.

  • david r

    No, Beck is thinking cabinet position.

  • david r

    Written by Keith Olbermann.

  • david r

    Great piece.  I thought Cain had a pretty good remark about the protesters.  Blame yourself.  You elected this fool.

  • Steve85

    one thing herm cain can count on is if he happens to walk by any of the protesters, he won’t get spit on.

  • Anonymous

    This nonpartisan resource would agree with you that “he has been right”– twice!
    http://www.politifact.com/personalities/glenn-beck/statements

  • Anonymous

    This nonpartisan resource would agree with you that “he has been right”– twice!
    http://www.politifact.com/personalities/glenn-beck/statements

  • Ricci Dats Me

    I’ve said this before but the CURRENT “Far Right” is comprised of one too many dim lit bulbs to even begin to READ ALL OF THOSE WORDS>… You’ll exhaust them.. so just think Bell Curve and understand that the average NEGATIVE, IDIOT poster on this board (See MICHELLE) is a member of that group on a Bell Curve that occupies the LIP of the bell. Chances are THAT group of people wont even know A) what a BELL CURVE is, and B) what the lip of the bell is either.. ROFL

  • david r

    Not true.  Obama polishes his knob daily.

  • david r

    I’ll bet Norbit would best you in just about every form of intellectual endeavor that can be objectively measured.

  • Moosenuts99

    WHAT DID BUSH/GONZALEZ KNOW ABOUT OPERATION WIDE RECEIVER

    OR IS THAT NOT ON THE FOX GADAR?

  • Anonymous

    No, silly.  They’re the good kind of revolutionaries.  

    You know, the kind that want to water the tree of liberty with the blood of our duly-elected president.

  • Anonymous

    No, silly.  They’re the good kind of revolutionaries.  

    You know, the kind that want to water the tree of liberty with the blood of our duly-elected president.

  • Anonymous

    I agree with these protesters…we SHOULD throw Obama out of office.

  • Indigo710

    Get past the academics,………………read about what Cain has done in life after school. Professional achievments.

  • Anonymous

    You’re going to criticize someone for resorting to “talking points” and then offer this overly simplistic, grossly misleading diatribe of warmed over Limbaugh?  Give me a break.

  • Ricci Dats Me

    Norbit… Norbit Norbit… Honestly, you cant believe a single word of what you’ve written. UNLESS, you, Norbit, believe that there are a group of SMART GOP types out there who would support ANY GOP candidate regardless of how truly crazy they are. Point of fact, I’ve spent MONTHS with a GOP Member who is a life long GOP -he dropped out of the party shortly after the BASE took over and started supporting idiots like Bachman and Trump.. I just spent 3 hours in his office with a much younger and highly intelligent group of GOP members and they are also refusing to accept any reality of a Cain, Bachman or Perry future and see them ALL as “the rodeo” getting the hillbilly base ready to vote for the REAL GOP candidate when its time. WHO is that person? Well thats for the heavy lifting blue collars to find out, but its not a single one of the current loud looney folks.. and I’ll trust millionaire GOP members way before some folks on a board who generally argue like 6th graders..

  • david r

    I lost a chunk of money on mutual funds that had bought the toxic securities.  I’ll just have to work another five years.  This is the “new retirement.”

  • Anonymous

    Its actually hard to disagree that a good many of the protesters are willing to back a revolution when they freely talk about it and carry signs around that call for one.

    What’s the point of this article again?  Oh yes.  To obscure the above fact.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    Criticizing Main Street for protesting on Wall Street, Herman Cain and Glenn Beck agree and say, “Shut up and eat your cake.”

  • Steve85

    oh, so he shot it so he wouldn’t get the burns on his fingers.

  • Indigo710

    He turned the  400 Burger  Kings in the Philly area from money losers to money makers by learning every aspect of the operation. He did the same for Godfather’s Pizza.  He is NOT an empty suit, like  0bama is.

  • Ricci Dats Me

    The LACK of understanding of US history -EVEN WITH THE DAMN INTERNET HERE READY TO EDUCATE IF YOU PLEASE.. is just SICK. Take a look at what was happening in the USA in 1917 just as we were forced into WW1. You’ll find it to be a very familiar time and you’ll find that WE THE PEOPLE did exactly what you claim we would fear in your post “Wake Up America”.. so sadly, you have no idea what AMERICA will do when forced into economic hardship as we have been for the last 20 years.. but guess what.. its a far cry from what the current RIGHT thinks and thats not surprising as MOST of the Internet-Right dont do much THINKING.

  • david r

    Read that piece Michelle links.  That’s one of the points they make.

  • Michelle

    Yeah, I love how he refuses to be politically correct:

    Cain To Occupiers: “Don’t Blame Wall Street, If You Don’t Have a Job And You’re Not Rich, Blame Yourself”…

  • david r

    There are a lot of well-armed Independents here in Central Texas.

  • Valkyrie101

    Oh, well, spitting, Glenn may be right about this being the beginning of the end of American culture.

  • Anonymous

    And then there’s this guy.

    “Beck’s silly.  There’s no talk about revolutions.  But aren’t revolutions great, though?”

    Putting aside your efforts to conflate colloquial definitions of revolutions with actual ones, and to falsely claim Beck would stand against such as civil rights, 9 out of 10 real revolutions are disasters for those who initiate them, for “the masses” prove over and over to be susceptible to power seekers versed in manipulating the psychology of crowds for their own benefit.  And here Beck is showing you who those people are flitting around the edge of the crowd in advance – and low and behold, its the usual suspects of socialists, labor leaders, communists and their useful idiot anarchist tools. But hey. Why not give them another shot?

  • Irish189

    so your saying your parents didn’t teach you?

  • Anonymous

    I can’t believe Cain would give Glenn Beck any kind of credence by appearing on his show. This lame-brained Dufuss leaves a whole lot to be desired from any sane person much less a toxic talking head kicked out of the FOX-hole! There is no distraction but applied support for the president’s earnest efforts to bring jobs to American workers! There is no revolution but a counter revolution effort against the Treasonous Erratic Anarchist(TEA) membership!

  • Anonymous

    Your Only Point Could be Covered By A Decent Hat !!

  • Roger_Fails

    You don’t have a clue what this protest is about. Continue to ignore their message at your own peril.

  • Roger_Fails

    It’s an obsession! Like ACORN and the New Black Panthers. 

  • TbagsRstupid

    no racism there

  • Anonymous

    Political loyalties as standard by which to judge racial purity.

    Drink!

  • Anonymous

    Meant to be derisive, but actually quite true.  Beck’s show is highly cerebral, as is shown by the vociferousness of opposition to his input.  And Cain, as shown above, is no slouch either.

  • TbagsRstupid

    wow

  • http://mediamatters.org/ Leedog

    Lol!! Michelle can’t stand you… why stick up for her??

  • TbagsRstupid

    oops – one more marxist and you would have gotten a cookie

  • david r

    Remember, only you can prevent drug fires.

  • Anonymous

    About to be?

    Who do you think has been flipping for the food tents and port-o-pottys?

  • TbagsRstupid

    lo freakin l

  • Anonymous

    As opposed to the good kind of revolutionaries?  

    You know, the kind who carry signs about watering the tree of liberty with the blood of their duly-elected president?

  • Anonymous

    Ricci Dats Me Repeats His Comments – Still Makes No Sense !!

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Now is that before or after they celebrate the death of Ted Kennedy or will there be one big after party?

  • TbagsRstupid

    If its all about the resume, the I guess Willard has a lock on the nomination.

  • TbagsRstupid

    too late

  • Anonymous

    True that.  Only a conservative in today’s America would see the body of his statements that America is in the way of his global designs and see his record of conducting attacks on national (regional, even) economies and understand what a threat he represents to social mobility.  We no longer expect the modern “liberal” to get it.

  • TbagsRstupid

    You watched and listened to Soros say it and link to
    Dr. Michael S. Coffman

  • Moosenuts99

    Cain is PROMOTING A BOOK. So he’ll go anywhere he’s invited…except the Daily Show, of course. Hahahahaahhahaha

  • Moosenuts99

    ANOTHER

    UNINFORMED

    CON

  • Anonymous

    So, you are replying to me by replying to a quote of someone else. Interesting.

    Beck is a hardcore reactionary and counter-revolutionary. In case you missed it, he  is versed in manipulating the psychology of his viewers to his own benefit. I have seen how he “embraced” the Arab Revolutions, also, so spare me the bs about his non-existent support for civil rights.

    You can try to discredit the protests with your cold war lingo as much as you like. Doesn´t change the fact that a huge majority of Americans are in favor of taxing the rich more fairly because they are fed up with the economic injustice. Even a majority of InsaniTea Party supporters are. 

    Records of previous revolution most certainly doesn´t say anything about the outcome of a revolution yet to happen. What nonsense! Post hoc propter hoc fallacy, you know.

  • Michelle

    You sound almost threatening.

  • Anonymous

    No, “And then there’s this guy” means you.  I was paraphrasing you, for what you do in your first post is attempt to sustain the idea of revolution as viable even as you try to deride those who rightly point out the underlying sentiments of those backing the street protests.  They most certainly are not in the vein of American revolutionaries, they’re anti-capitalists and would be dictators.

    The cold war has little to do with the reality of persistent Marxist or communist thought; it remains a nineteenth century socioeconomic philosophy advanced to counter the freedoms borne of the American revolution so to restore power to the hands of the few.  With regard to man’s freedom, there is no more pernicious enemy to common sense than a communist tool – especially an unthinking one.  Talk about reactionaries!

    Oh, and BTW, as to those Arab Spring revolutions you’re so proud of and think to criticize Beck’s analysis skills with, thousands are dead, the Muslim Brotherhood is taking over Egypt, Al Qaeda is growing in popularity in Yemen and Sharia Law is coming to Libya even as none of the economic pressures which fueled the uprisings have been addressed, but you’ve stopped paying attention. Good job attempting to twist the characterization of them as a civil rights movement, though!

  • David

    It’s not anti capitalism; it’s anti greed.

  • Anonymous

    Whatever, you making way too many wrong assertions and trying to deflect from the issue at hand.

    Continue to believe in Beck and his propaganda, he´s as accurate as you when paraphrasing me.

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    A discredited narrative, still alive in leftist talking points.

    Also highly unlikely, considering the rhetoric one hears from many of the hard-core radicals with youtube accounts.

  • Anonymous

    You know, if you deny the Marxist inspired rhetoric of many street protesters or that the environment in which they’re driven to march is owing to an incompetent recovery overseen by an administration headed by a man born, raised and surrounded by supporters of Marxism his entire life, you win nothing; for you never actually win anything on the internet.  Though I’m sure you’ve clicked those hitboxes.

  • Anonymous

    Hundreds of replies a thread concerning him, including dozens from you, says yes!

  • Anonymous

    Fact-checking says, “They shouldn’t!”

    http://www.politifact.com/personalities/glenn-beck/statements/

  • Irish189

    could you be a little more specific?

  • Anonymous

    What an inferior creature you must be if you believe that!

    BWHAHHAHAHAHAAA!!

  • Anonymous

    And all those folks who dressed in revolutionary war costumes and adopted a revolutionary flag, and name, are  not. Just so we’re clear.

  • Anonymous

    And they didn’t bring any guns…..this time!

  • Anonymous

    Really he’s promoting a book.
    I heard he didn’t like to read, so I’m pretty sure he doesn’t like to write either.

  • Anonymous

    Using a website which treats occasional hyperbole as deeply held assertions (Wilmington, Ohio NEVER took government money) and doesn’t account for misstatements of tense (Andy Stern WAS the most prolific visitor to the WH – Van Jones WAS an avowed revolutionary – gotcha!), to amass a record of so-called half truths doesn’t really discredit him as a source of information, just so you know.

    In truth, Beck’s information and analysis is on the whole quite good

  • Anonymous

    Hank Jr, is that you?

  • Anonymous

    There are things I like about Herman Cain, but then he says stuff like the above quote, or defends the bigots in Murfreesboro TN and doesn’t seem to understand the 1st amendment.

  • Anonymous

    Cainunism [keyn - yuh - niz - uhm] – noun

    1. A theory or system of economic organization based on a wildly optimistic regard for the fiscal discipline of Congress and the President. Adherence to this theory typically requires the suspension of disbelief concerning the ability of increasing the government’s power to tax, without substantive spending cuts, to actually reduce burdens on taxpayers and to produce economic recovery.

    2. The intentional use by politicians of resonate slogans which obfuscate and distract some voters from the otherwise conspicuous absence of thoughtful, realistic or realizable fiscal or monetary plans and policies.

    Cainunist [keyn - yuh - nist] – adjective

    1. Of, characterized by, favoring or relating to Cainunism; Cainunistic

    In a sentence: “Imagining that a ‘9 – 9 – 9’ percent tax ‘plan’ would not soon be 9.9 – 9.9 – 9.9, then 19 – 19 – 19, and so on, is just more magical Cainunist thinking.”

    Origin of Cainunism: term used by informed voters to describe the economic-sounding slogans that originated from the 2012 vanity presidential campaign of Herman Cain (1945 – )

    Synonyms for Cainunism: 1. Prevarication, 2. Deception, 2. Cozen, 3. Hucksterism, 4. Hoodwink, 5. Sales Pitch, 6. Razzle Dazzle

    Antonyms for Cainunism: 1. Common Sense, 2. Objective Reality, 2. Free Market, 3. Tax Reduction, 4. Economic Liberty, 5. Less Government, 6. Constitutionalism, 7. Ron Paul

  • Anonymous

    Paleo, I appreciate your civil and thoughtful response.  And I think you make a valid point about the way in which people can distort isolated comments.  But, in this case, I don’t think that it applies.  Beck held Wilmington, OH up as exemplifying an American can-do spirit because of its rejection of stimulus funds.  That’s why he brought the whole dog-and-pony show there.  And, if you don’t think Beck’s belief that Van Jones IS a communist isn’t a deeply held assertion, you’ve not been paying attention. 

    Beck always talked about the importance of integrity and getting facts straight.  The fact that he never, ever attempted to qualify or revise the statements listed (among others) does strike me as grounds for discrediting him as a source of information. 

  • Nancillarypeloslinton

    Yeah, most of you DemoKKKrats nowadays eagerly would’ve been stokin’ the furnaces at Auschwitz or Bergen-Belsen.

  • Nancillarypeloslinton

    Toothless and Inbred, Alabama sure has been good to your people, eh ‘Crupt?

  • Dusmid76

    Dont u all realize what ever side you are on, both parties are saleing us down the river. There is a lot of truth coming from the tea party, and a lot of truth coming from the wall street protesters. Also there is a lot of common ground. The problem is where doea it all lead. The devil will tell you 1,000 truth to get you to belive one lie!

  • Dude

    pf haterz… oh how does michelle feel  about her savior Palin failing her?

  • Anonymous

    And your evidence for this crazy nonsense will take me to what Blaze posting where I can “do my own research” as Beck likes to call it?

  • Anonymous

    Yep…ANYTHING you say Nancy.

  • Anonymous

    To be sure, facts are important, but also consider the source.  Beck is not a newsman, nor should people consider his presentation of of news items sacrosanct.  Instead, he’s a commentator who has an entertainment show.  Yet that doesn’t mean the show should be dismissed.  More so than anything, Beck talks about the importance not of facts, as you say, but of accountability to the truth.  Anyone who enters
    into the process of evaluating the value of any imparted information not inclined to overlook the occasional useages of
    hyperbole or mistakes of fact – or the act of jokes even, purposely interpreted as straight assertions – won’t recognize the value of the source.  Ones
    politics, of course, is sure to play a big role in how open minded one might be, but surely its not an all encompassing litmus test.

    For instance.  Of two characterizations of Wilmington where one might say of it either
    that they as a community threw up their hands and adopted a culture of
    dependency on government assistance or one in which they’re trying to develop
    local solutions, especially juxtaposed with many examples of failing
    communities choosing the former, one can see the latter is more true.  A few million dollars Stimulus money and a hundred temporary jobs aren’t going to save them from becoming a ghost town, but entrepreneurial endeavors might.  Was the back story story embellished with hyperbole in service of the charitable assistance Beck was offering?  Sure.  But that doesn’t change the basic truth of the assertion.

    The “deeply held assertion” bit was in relation to “occasional use of
    hyperbole,” whereas the bit about Jones was in relation to tense. 
    Surely Beck believes Jones not to have reformed his earlier radicalism -
    as is supported by Jones’ tactic spoken in speeches of putting aside
    said poses for radical ends – tape provided by the likes of Beck.  So
    not only is it a belief, it’s a well founded one.  Again, the core truth
    is that Jones remains a radical and to this day involves himself in
    Marxist inspired socioeconomic activism.

    With these truths in hand, its incumbent upon the consumer of information to evaluate the worth of them.

  • Anonymous

    To be sure, facts are important, but also consider the source.  Beck is not a newsman, nor should people consider his presentation of of news items sacrosanct.  Instead, he’s a commentator who has an entertainment show.  Yet that doesn’t mean the show should be dismissed.  More so than anything, Beck talks about the importance not of facts, as you say, but of accountability to the truth.  Anyone who enters into the process of evaluating the value of any imparted information not inclined to overlook the occasional useages of hyperbole or mistakes of fact – or the act of jokes even, purposely interpreted as straight assertions – won’t recognize the value of the source.  Ones politics, of course, is sure to play a big role in how open minded one might be, but surely its not an all encompassing litmus test.

    For instance.  Of two characterizations of Wilmington where one might say of it either that they as a community threw up their hands and adopted a culture of dependency on government assistance or one in which they’re trying to develop local solutions, especially juxtaposed with many examples of failing communities choosing the former, one can see the latter is more true.  A few million dollars Stimulus money and a hundred temporary jobs aren’t going to save them from becoming a ghost town, but entrepreneurial endeavors might.  Was the back story story embellished with hyperbole in service of the charitable assistance Beck was offering?  Sure.  But that doesn’t change the basic truth of the assertion.

    The “deeply held assertion” bit was in relation to “occasional use of hyperbole,” whereas the bit about Jones was in relation to tense.  Surely Beck believes Jones not to have reformed his earlier radicalism – as is supported by Jones’ tactic spoken in speeches of putting aside said poses for radical ends – tape provided by the likes of Beck.  So not only is it a belief, it’s a well founded one for Jones has neither documented his conversion to capitalism and to this day involves himself in Marxist inspired socioeconomic activism.  Again, the core truth is that Jones remains a radical.

    With these truths in hand, its incumbent upon the consumer of information to evaluate the worth of them.

  • Anonymous

    New truism.  BZig differences exist between the goals and ideals of the American revolution and those revolutions lauded by anti-capitalist anarchists.

  • Anonymous

    So says you.  But then you can’t attempt to characterize a people as counter-revolutionaries, as in your initial post above, without implicitly acknowledging the revolutionary nature of those whose status you wish to obfuscate.

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    capitalism?  

  • David

    I live in NY and have a friend who is involved in the riots. They are openly trying to start a revolution. It isn’t even a story actually. Just go talk to one of them and they will tell you exactly what they are doing.

  • Anonymous

    1, Look up anarchy, because you’re using it incorrectly. There protestors don’t want an absence of state. They want a state that works toward the good of ALL it’s citizens rather than just the wealthiest ones.
    They want a state that is not bought and paid for and beholding to corporate influence. 

    You might want to look up the actual Boston Tea Party from which the Tea Party gets it’s name. It was the seizure and destruction of private corporate owned property.

    It’s a ridiculous joke to speak disparagingly of these Americans, expressing their right to protest, in terms of revolution , after lauding a group that took it’s name, costume and flag FROM our own revolution.

  • Anonymous

    Honestly, I think Politifact does a pretty good job of making the very distinctions you suggest.  Not one of the quotes that they analyze suggest that they are quibbling over details or reading too much into a hyperbolic statement.  Each reflects a statement that Beck made repeatedly and rarely, if ever, qualified or nuanced.  The clear implication he left is that these things are facts.  Did he ever admit Wilmington received stimulus funds?  Did he ever highlight the fact that Van Jones’ primary push was for creating green jobs in the private sector?

    We live in very complicated times in which we’re dealing with very complicated issues.  Someone like Beck does the country a disservice by refusing to acknowledge this.  Instead he oversimplifies and demonizes.  The guy named his book Arguing with Idiots, for Pete’s sake.  That’s a title that suggests that not only “the truth” but “the facts” are all on one side. 

  • Anonymous

    And another thing: Van Jones (as well as Jim Wallis for that matter) openly stated that he would love to be on Beck’s show and discuss these matters.  Beck never took them up on it, despite giving the impression that he was open to such things.  The man is dishonest.

  • http://www.davidjkramer.co.cc// DavidKramer

    That’s Keynesian European Socialist.

    You were one of those people on the video aren’t you?

  • http://www.davidjkramer.co.cc// DavidKramer

    What threat? I said bring it. That is a demand for the OWS twits to bring it. So bring it already twit.

  • Anonymous

    I disagree with both about Pres. Obama.  The LAST thing Obama needs is to have liberal protests against capitalism.   Independents don’t like mobs, occupations or disorder.  Feeds into the worries about people looking for handouts and feeling entitled.  As usual, the far left hurts Obama’s presidency, doesn’t help it.  

    Now far left liberal groups, absolutely.  But that doesn’t help democrats, only makes the 2012 election harder.

  • http://www.facebook.com/tony.westover Tony Westover

    “The idea that they are shills for the president would probably be news
    to some of the protesters who are just as angry at Obama for not being
    hard enough on the banks involved in the economic recession.”

    … And they’re still going to vote for him anyway! If the manage to get their lazy asses out of their bed in their parents’ basement.

    The difference between the Tea Party and these bums is that the Tea Party actually has principles and isn’t a buncha partisan hacks like these guys are. If these guys were the Tea Party, they’d be running primary challengers to Obama. But since they’re intellectual cowards, they’re instead camping out in parks and whining about people who actually worked hard and got jobs in the real world.

  • Bob Uda

    Herman Cain And Glenn Beck Agree: ‘Anti-Capitalism’ Wall Street Protest Is Trying To Start Revolution

    This is all part of Obama’s hidden agenda (the grand plan) to declare martial law and take over the country with force.  The man has got to go on November 6, 2012.  We cannot tolerate Marxist-socialism any longer.

  • StevenLouisJones

    The real estate bubble consisted of bad loans being packaged and sold as triple A investments.  The banks new what they were doing.  I want to see accountability.  If the 1% were doing a fine job of running the world I’m sure no one would give a fig.   If you look up the Gulf oil spill you will find that contrary to what the media tried to pull, that the mess didn’t simply disperse.  The fishermen are having a hell of a time.  Former Monsanto vice president Michael Taylor was appointed by Obama as the food safety car. To me that is a conflict of interest.  America take back your government. 
    Oh and Labels like left socialism or for that matter fascism the right are very cheap cop outs for the very simple minded who are to lazy to find out what the issues are about but need to have opinion to impress their friends.  Labels are dismissive and do nothing for the discussion of these very serious issues.

  • Anonymous

    I’ll take the revolution we already had that birthed mans freedom on Earth these last couple hundred years, thank you very much, instead of the revolution in the hearts of those who’d overturn it.

    This is simple stuff.  The Boston Tea Party was an action against of the English crown, and the
    taxation it enforced through acts passed by parliament, not something done
    against “corporations.”  You’re getting 3rd grade history wrong in support of your arguments, and conflating entirely different sectors of society into one mass to which you can point as you “fight the man, man” – toward whatever “state” your said “anarchists” want.  (“Don’t say it, bro!”)  Is there something in the air where you are for you to be getting it THAT wrong?

    The symbology really is that simple, too.  It goes beyond “costume” or funny hats – symbology FROM the American revolution, one that had been completed over two hundred years ago – which you of the weirdo left spoke of fearfully, “disparagingly” even, over the last two years.  Such was illustrative, as symbology often is, to what relation many in our society today have with the country, its ideals and its history.  But it brings up a point of which costume most ‘suits’ you.  You’re for the last revolution, and all that it entails, or the next.

  • Anonymous

    Another difference is that this is ACTUAL astroturf.  An attempt by unions and the hard left to gin up an activist base going into next year’s election.

    Who could doubt it?  The web pages have been up for months, as have numerous clips of key allies of this president in planning sessions.

    I shouldn’t have asked the above question, though.  What was I thinking?  My news is telling me this “just came about.”

  • Anonymous

    Under normal circumstance, though, his 2012 re-election with economic numbers being as they are would be an impossibility.  Such as you’re seeing is an attempt to change the playing field from the norm.  That’s not to discount that some would have it that things get so bad independents react out of fear.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IC7HRBJRXKA7IKTTZS5W3UIECQ Agent of Truth

    Anticapitalism???  What a joke!  Stupidity really is running rampant in this nation and the wealthiest at the top use it to their advantage through their corporate subsidary commonly known as the GOP.  The fact that Herman Cain agreed with Glenn Beck on anything only means that he is not the sharpest knife in drawer because Glenn Beck is a complete idiot in every sense of the word.  The wealthy elites of this nation have turned the USA away from being a democracy with a capitalist economic model towards one where the 1% control the government through turning it into an auction house to the highest bidder.  And lastly…these same wealthy elites (many of which include the likes of people with no integrity like Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh) have successfully bastardized true capitalism.  Because of people like this, our nation’s model of capitalism has morphed into one of extractionism and speculation.  Yea…these idiots are laughing all the way to the bank while most Americans are dumb enough to buy into their ideologic lies that have destroyed this nation’s economic present and future.  Thanks to people like this…we’ve come full circle back to Mark Twain’s “Guilded Age”.

  • http://www.facebook.com/tony.westover Tony Westover

    Yeah, I forgot to mention that too. This overblown Twitter flashmob was arranged by the foreign communist anti-consumer organization Adbusters. Unions better watch out because even the far left is outsourcing their protests now.

  • Anonymous

    The real estate bubble was the result of socialist (that’s right. Screw your PC attempt to invalidate the word) inspired policies pushed by Democrats and progressive Republicans to subsidize home-ownership by people who didn’t have the wherewithal to ultimately pay off their mortgages – The Communities Reinvestment Act pushed the banks to make the bad loans, the process was legitimized by the government through such as Freddy Mac and Fannie Mae who exasperated the problem by underwriting the bundled loans and rating them as good.  In a market left to its own device, banks would not have made such risky loans – but with the government, specifically the progressives in government, telling them to do it and backing them, telling them ultimately the entire enterprise was too big to fail, they went along, and made what money they could while it lasted.

    If you want accountability, move to Vermont and vote against Barney Frank.

    Watch the above video, then watch this one

  • http://twitter.com/Darr247 Darr Darr

    You realize that’s 666 when viewed from above, right?

  • http://twitter.com/Darr247 Darr Darr

    They should probably get to know the enemy a little better before they declare war.

    With an 870 for every household member, a little under 24# of Longshot smokeless, over 100# of shot and a Grabber in the basement (experimenting with pre-1982 pennies as EFPs… at ~11g of copper they’re a little light)… those right-wingnut blaze pukes might find themselves with no room to chew.

  • Anonymous

    Stupidity really is running rampant in this nation

    I believe you meant to end that with “in the streets of New York.” “Useful idiots,” in the words of Marx, come a dime a dozen, it seems, when exposed too long to the leftist echo-chamber.

    Beck, indeed, has been shining a light the growing organization behind these protests.  It’s why you of the wacko left were made to hate him so, and sought to discredit him these last several years.  Such can be shown by what’s lacking in your message, as you take to switching talking points now to illustrate merely that he “has money.”  To refresh everyone’s memory, it was something like this.

    “Oh, this is just another one of Beck’s stupid conspiracy theories.  The radical left aren’t REALLY conspiring to take to the streets in violent action, possibly portending revolution or at least some sort of revolt of the underclass.  They’re not nearly that well-organized, well-funded or well-connected.  That’s just unrealistic fear mongering.”

  • Anonymous

    Again, the “Blaze”.

  • Anonymous

    A response is a stalker,… ok! You better turn yourself in!

  • Anonymous

    Pick your edits, pick your exceptions!

  • Anonymous

    ” Blaze”?!

  • Anonymous

    Fact: No proof, fact!

  • Anonymous

    Don’t talk to me as if I’ve supported everything others have said. Neither the left or the right {or the middle} have one mind and one voice. That kind of language needs to be left behind for the sake of basic common sense, and reasonable communication. I have never accused the Tea Party of being racist, or stupid. In fact I’ve repeatedly supported their sincere dissatisfaction with the way things are, and seen their expressing themselves as a positive thing , even though I don’t always agree.
    Do I think they’ve been hijacked in part by outside interests. Yes, and I think there’s evidence to support it, but I still believe there are many sincere members.

    As far as history goes, I’m glad to be corrected and learn something if you can back up what you can easily post.
    Who’s property was seized and destroyed in the Boston harbor and why? Yes, it was an act against the crown, but not only the crown. Also against the crown’s manipulation of business by getting in bed with private enterprise, correct , or not?

    I’ll take the revolution we already had that birthed mans freedom on
    Earth these last couple hundred years, thank you very much, instead of
    the revolution in the hearts of those who’d overturn it.

    I question whether you know what’s in the hearts of the OWS protestors. Other than stereotypes, what’s your source? I’d also challenge any claim that all those people want the same thing.

    I’m sorry you still don’t seem to understand what anarchy means. My objection in this thread is more gross and ignorant generalization. You object to how your preferred protestors were unfairly treated but seem eager to embrace the same type of ignorance toward this group. I relish the protest of both groups even though their ideas of solutions may be very different. It’s an important step in taking back the government spoken of by a noble Republican,

    ” that government of the people, by the people,
    for the people, shall not perish from the earth.”

  • Anonymous

    Objection !! Non-responsive !!

  • Anonymous

    These two narrow-minded brains should start a lousy rock pile as they both are needlessly spewing dribble to create some news! There is no “Distraction” or “Sowing a revolution” as the real revolutionaries are the  Terrifying Egotistical activist(TEA) party which controls the Republican/GOP party! The Taxation Eradication Anarchists(TEA) do not care about anything except saving the richest 5% from increases in taxes under the false belief that jobs will be generated. How wrong they are! Lower taxes has never in all time produced jobs and this current 112th Congress, under the control of Eric Cantor and the Troubling Economic Antagonist­(TEA) party, are dead set on ousting President Obama “Our Main Guy”(OMG)! The Troubling Egotistical Ambivalent (TEA) party has had enough exposure and now these ”Wall Street Freedom Spirited” protesters have their moment to show the world the “People” want their say! This is quite a collaboration, unions, Ben Bernanke and the Wall Street protesters! Romney will take the primary and lose to president Obama!

  • Anonymous

    Such sentiments as you express last would be more believable of the crowd had the placed a good deal more emphasis on it.  Instead, they carry signs that speak to overturning economic systems rather than political positions or attack cops in attempt to lie about police brutality and so enrage the crowd that it begins to riot.  Else they proudly proclaim their being revolutionaries, to genial acceptance or obfuscation form the mainstream press, ready to destroy the system so to inherit it.

    To demonstrate again how different is the current protestors to those of the Tea Party who came before, no rally, march, protest, event or town hall in which they were involved was attended by violence or arrests.  Such can’t be said of street presence of the left, even as it’s just getting started, under the sway of those with loudspeakers.  Its somewhat demonstrative, this last, that in their disunity, in their gaggle of loose issues many bring to the table, they’re more akin to a mob than a political movement.  And mobs are easily leds things, responsive through crowd psychology to those with the loudest voice.  Here’s where “anarchists” come into play, for in group with a mob mentality, they and their actions will assume a greater role than are their initial numbers .  This situation with far left radical organizers – those who put these rallies together – Marxist college professors, labor leaders and the like – almost uniformly allies of the president – in the wings ready to ply their trade.

    As to the Boston Tea Party, once more, the coercive force came from but one sector of society – government, by way of the Tea Act, for the benefit of government, so to recoup money spent in a spate of recent wars on the continent and over colonial possessions..  Similarly in the modern age, the individual mandate – in the style of the Intolerable Acts – does not dictate one must purchase insurance from companies to assist the companies, but to defray costs of the government health care legislation.  Its inescapable; you cannot pervert a basic historical truth to draw favorable allusions towards the rhetoric of your street (your being an indicator to whom you are more closely aligned).  Those who march are more aligned with King George, and call for from their political leadership the exact same style of coercive government force for which he is most remembered.

  • Anonymous

    no rally, march, protest, event or town hall in which they were involved was attended by violence or arrests

    That’s not exactly correct, but accepting that there are a lot more arrests in the OWS protests,  what do you suppose that proves? Were there arrests during the civil rights movement, the protests against Vietnam? We had to fight a war and slaughter each other to end slavery.
    Saying the Tea Party is nicer and protested more politely and responsibly doesn’t carry much weight for me. They were also successfully hijacked and used by the GOP as well as others. That doesn’t diminish their sincerity, or the validity of a lot of their points. The Tea Party was only one step, one phase of a battle against corruption that will take perseverance.
    Highlighting a few signs and the words of a few offenders, and then painting the entire group, is exactly the offense committed against the Tea Party and accurately decried as unfair. Is that what you want to participate in?
    I don’t support destruction of property or violence against anyone, but a little disruption might be necessary. 

    I checked out your link to The Blaze. I noticed how a few words were highlighted and the rest ignored.
    He said, the rpoblems of this country are complicated and democracy takes time. The conversations they’re having are conversations the political and economic leaders and media should be having but aren’t. Al paraphrases, saying the protests are to force the dialogue about priorities and realistic solutions  in this country and he says “Yes”  That seems to be in line with what the Tea Party was expressing. It’s ridiculous to pull out a word or two and harp on those and ignore the rest, and the larger point. If you didn’t like the way that was done to the Tea Party, then maybe you shouldn’t applaud it now as it’s done to this other group of your fellow citizens.
    Here’s an interesting mini movie about the corruption of the banking system offered by the Central Valley Tea Party.
    http://www.centralvalleyteaparty.com/video/corrupt-banking-system-0105

    As to the Boston Tea Party,

    As I said, please back up your assertions with more than a repeat of those assertions. The crown was in an alliance with a private company just as members of both parties are now manipulated and influenced by mega corporations and the Fed working with major banks without oversight.  {See Ron Paul} Regardless of you passing it off as symbolic, the reality is that private corporate owned property was seized and destroyed. That’s where the Tea Party gathered it’s name. The don’t tread on me Flagg is about revolution , not reform. It seems ludicrous now for those who eagerly supported the Tea Party to now criticize the OWS movement for using terms like revolution.
    Here’s Michelle Malkin on 2009 http://michellemalkin.com/2009/03/12/tea-party-update-revolution-is-brewing/
    Revolution is brewing!  The Tea Party purposely chose it’s revolutionary title, flag costumes and rhetoric. Now when OWS speaks of revolution, they’re evil? ridiculous.
    If we truly value democracy and free speech then both groups should be applauded for participating even if they disagree on the details. Neither should be casually demonized by for profit media and millionaire media personalities. 

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    I’d say your revisionist assertions (and not only in regards to American history) are in need of a whole lot more backing than my own; seeing as how my own bear relation to what actually happened and why – though I agree my take doesn’t fit in nearly as well as a piece of issue-of-the-day propaganda.  But as you say, free speech does exist for all…

    Thanks to our past revolution.

  • evieuxtemps

           Wow, thanks for showing you true colors.  Lynch an American of African descent. I’m sure you keep your white robe nicely pressed. 
           As for the protests, do you really think our free-markets are working.  The President doesn’t create jobs corporations do. They are sitting on trillions in profits yet they are not hiring and growing the economy. Their share holders are sitting pretty while the rest of us suffer.  The Dow is doing just fine and everyone else is moving closer to poverty.  If you don’t see a problem with that you really are blind.  The whole idea of class warfare is quite funny considering it is one of the tenets of conservatism.  It’s just reversed.  Huge tax breaks for the rich, who in many cases don’t pay any, i.e. GE,  while at the same time cutting money from the poor and otherwise disadvantaged.  I for one applaud the folks protesting in our financial centers.  It is our system which allows these companies to do what they do and it’s about time they pay their part for that privilege.  That ISN”T anti-capitalist, it IS as American as apple pie.  When we see inequality we rise up to meet it.  When it hits a critical mass the masses fight back.  You’ve had your Tea Party now it’s time for the real revolution to begin.  Read your world history,  stagnant, live in the past conservatism always lose out to progressive new ideas.  The America of the 50′s is long dead.  Get over it.  
           If I put this on a chalkboard, circled and crossed out items with great vigor, you would lap it up just like Beck.  That is after all where this discussion began.  His paranoid delusional rantings were even too much for FOX to handle.
            I wish you all the best in the new world order.

  • Yezeniapoulsen

    Who the F*ck is the third person talking???

  • Yezeniapoulsen

    This is gross :/

  • patirot

     Hay it was the Corparations and The GOP that made this class  War fare  now that the worm is turnning  after all they have been calling it that for as long as I can remember and i am a 60 year old disabled vet that is not aganist wealth or big business, just fairness in the tax. And if any compan y hates our high tax rate on them no one is keeping them here , they can MOVE TO Any other country in the world with a lower tax rate,t they may not have the loop hoes there so they will probibily pay something  to that nation .
    Gee May be that is why they stay here with such a high tax rate at least with the high rate and all of the loop holes I guess paying nothing is better than something !!

  • WakeUpStandUP

    Just learned of Romney’s connection to Monsanto. If my A$$ was on fire and voting for him would put it out, I’d let it turn to charcoal. NO VOTES FOR MONSANTO CLONES! Go Herman Cain.

  • Soulshineta2

     um…excuse me but when more people find out about herman cains involvement with MONSANTO during his tenure at the national restaurant association he will be unelectable and obama will win, open your damn ears. comment…

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