“I Told You So!” Mosque Furor Now No. 1 Topic On Radical Islamic Websites

by Glynnis MacNicol | 10:01 am, August 24th, 2010

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On Sunday Frank Rich speculated that the stoked up furor over the Lower Manhattan mosque could result in a threat to our national security. Said Rich: “An America at war with Islam plays right into Al Qaeda’s recruitment spiel. This month’s incessant and indiscriminate orgy of Muslim-bashing is a national security disaster for that reason — Osama bin Laden’s ‘next video script has just written itself.’”

Apparently he may not be all that far off. NPR’s Dina Temple-Raston reported this morning that in recent days the mosque debate has been the number one topic on the “jihadi chat rooms and frequent radical Islamic sites on the Web” that attract young Muslims and experts worry the debate is “playing right into the hands of radical extremists” including American-born Internet cleric named Anwar al-Awlaki, the man who has been linked to both the Fort Hood shootings and the Christmas Day bomber. Experts are concerned that the recent “anti-Islamic tone” is something “people like Anwar al-Awlaki can take advantage of.”

Said Evan F. Kohlmann, who tracks these kinds of websites and chat rooms for Flashpoint Global partners, a New York-based security firm. “Extremists are encouraging all this, with glee. It is their sense that by doing this that Americans are going to alienate American Muslims to the point where even relatively moderate Muslims are going to be pushed into joining extremist movements like al-Qaida. They couldn’t be happier.”

So much for encouraging relations with the Muslim world. There’s more, and it gets more worrisome:

All this controversy and vitriol are not only encouraged; they’re welcomed. Extremists and radical clerics posted a stream of “I told you so” messages: After years of telling followers that Islam was under attack by the West, the harsh reaction to a simple community center seemed to prove it.

That message, transmitted in a multitude of chat rooms and websites, has law enforcement worried. There have been a record number of homegrown terrorist plots in this country since late last year, and the conventional wisdom has been that the long wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have moved some young Muslims — many of whom came of age watching U.S. forces fighting in two wars on television — to join the fight.

It is rather astounding to realize that nearly nine years after 9/11 we are having this debate and that in many ways the rhetoric that surrounds it is far worse than what followed the actual attacks. In fact, much of what this article reports on is exactly what the Bush administration appeared to be hoping to avoid with their immediate calls for tolerance. You can listen to the report below.

Anwar al-Awlaki, Dina Temple-Raston, Frank Rich, Ground Zero Mosque, NPR

lonestar77

So if millions of white neo-nazi’s wanted to kill Americans because black people have freedoms in this country, the left would be worrying about offending their sensibilities? Hah. Yeah, that’d happen. If this hypothetical group murdered thousands with an attack in the name of their religion and this religion wanted to build a place of worship near the site of the attack whose “pastor” was a “moderate” who said that this country was an accessory because because we send billions of dollars to Africa every year, the left would be all for it? Yeah, ok.

A sample of the chat from the jihadists website:
Ahmed: I don’t know if I really want to kill a bunch of Americans, they don’t seem that bad.
MOhammed: They are infidels whose people don’t support the building of a mosque near ground zero.
Ahmed: But, I think the main point is they would rather it be built a few miles away.
Mohammed: That’s infidel talk.
Ahmed: I see your point, fit me for a suicide vest.
Big Eddie

Keep it up Frank . Maybe they ‘ll behead you last .
redwriteblue

The uproar about the “15 Story Mosque That Will Be Overshadowing Ground Zero” is an extension about Americans concern about increasing immigration to the U.S.

The U.S. State Department is continuing to bring thousands-more Middle Easterners to be “resettled” in the U.S. as “Political Asylum” refugees from the countries that are experiencing “Civil Wars.” They are unable to adjust to the American way-of-life” and then demand that we accomidate their customs. If even a small percentage of them have the desire to inflict mass casualities on New Yorkers out for a Saturday night in a crowded Times Square they are disaster waiting to happen, Click Link:

http://patriotsforamerica.ning.com/profiles/blogs/palestinians-have-missle
paulmdoro

Anyone here familiar with the Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act?
http://TheDividedStatesBlog.com Publius219

This is not shocking. Americans clamor for stronger rhetoric from the administration re: the words “Islam” and “terrorism”. Yes, most of the terrorists we face are Islamic. No, most of the 1.5 billion+ Muslims in the world are not terrorists.

The notion they are assumes a few things. A) That all Muslims adhere strictly to all passages of the Koran. B) That all Muslims interpret the Koran the same way C) Therefore, Muslims are bad.

Bush was right to tone down the rhetoric. It is what terrorist groups use to recruit, the idea that America is at war with Islam. But because of the need for souped up election year rhetoric and a wedge issue to drive the debate, we make our country less safe.
lonestar77

Publius219 says:
August 24, 2010 at 11:45 am (Quote)
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“Bush was right to tone down the rhetoric. It is what terrorist groups use to recruit, the idea that America is at war with Islam. But because of the need for souped up election year rhetoric and a wedge issue to drive the debate, we make our country less safe.”

So, I can assume that you’re worried about the “tone of the rhetoric” that you hear from radical islamists? Afterall, aren’t you worried that it’s going to inflame? Won’t it cause the Average Joe American to put on a suicide vest and go blow up a few thousand muslims in Mecca? Face it, “rhetoric” from our side has nothing do to with anything. They don’t need a “mosque controversy” to recruit. They can simply invent a cause like usual. Or, am I mistaken? Do radical islamists adhere to some sort of honor code when it comes to recruiting? “Thal shalt not tell a lie in order to get someone to blow themselves up”. Is that one of their commandments?

I am so freaking tired of cultural elitist lefties telling us that if we were just a little nicer, terrorists would suddenly love us. If we just “tone down the rhetoric”. How about getting some moderate muslims to come out and tell the world just how effing crazy the radicals are and how they need to be eliminated from their ranks? How about that? But no, that would take courage and to date, we’ve seen little to no courage from “moderate muslims”.
paulmdoro

I am so freaking tired of cultural elitist righties telling us if we just invade their countries and implement democracies terrorists will suddenly love us and peace will spread throughout the world.
Pablo

Wait, I thought terrorism has nothing to do with Islam! Did that change, Frank?
Azarkhan

“It is rather astounding to realize that nearly nine years after 9/11 we are having this debate”
Glynnis MacNichol

Only for people who think like you, and people like you are in the minority.

“So much for encouraging relations with the Muslim world.”

In case you hadn’t noticed, Pres Obama’s ostentatious efforts to do that have already failed. If further damage is done because of the Ground Zero mosque issue, the fault lies with Imam Rauf and his supporters who obstinately refuse to compromise on the location of the mosque, despite the will of the American people.
NORBIT

This is nothing compared to showing WEAKNESS to these mind-conditioned Neanderthals!!!!!

That’s why Spineless Democrats can’t be trusted to PROTECT US!!!

To paraphrase Sen. Reid:

WHY WOULD ANY CHRISTIAN VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT??
Spread the Word!!!
libra blue

Is Temple-Raston suggesting that there should not be a debate over this issue because the radicals will try to use it to their advantage? That is idiotic!

“It is rather astounding to realize that nearly nine years after 9/11 we are having this debate”

We are having this debate because of continued terrorist attacks by people like “good moderate Muslim” Nidal Malik Hasan who murdered 13 people and injured 30 at Ft. Hood, and Muslim Abdulhakim Muhammad who murdered Private Andrew Long and injured Pvt. Quinton I. Ezeagwula at the Little Rock, AK recruiting station, and Muslim grad student Abdulsalam Al-Zahrani who stabbed to death Binghampton Univ. professor Richard T. Antoun, and attempted attacks like the Christmas Day bomber.

And let’s not forget the Muslim TV station owner who beheaded his wife in Buffalo, NY for seeking a divorce, and the woman in Glendale, AZ who was run over by her Muslim father because she was too “Westernized”.

All of these attacks happened since February 2009. I am sure there are others, but this is more than enough reason for debating this issue.
Scum

Glynnis MacNicol has outdone herself. She has penetrated through the outer barrier of that which we know as stupidity and is an adventurer in a strange new land of mental deficiency. She has gone super saiyan stupid with this post. Her are only the three most idiotic things about the posting.

1. Glynnis tacitly conflates Islam with Islamic radicalism/terrorism when she remarks “So much for encouraging relations with the Muslim world” in reference to activity on jihadist. Is Glynnis MacNicol a filthy racist? by her own definition, absolutely.

2. Seems to believe that Americans should seek the approbation of jihadists and should be perturbed when they fail to get it. No shit the mosque debate “has been the number one topic on the “jihadi chat rooms and frequent radical Islamic sites on the Web”. If we were to capture Osama that would be the number one topic. Would that be evidence that we erred and should let him go?

That Jihadists believe opposition to the mosque is indicative of America’s great evil and a recruiting opportunity is utterly unsurprising. What is surprising(though not as much as it should be) is that you share prejudices against America and Americans with those Jihadists and would argue that Americans should model their conduct after the desires of religious maniacs.

3. If we are really to worry about the opinion of the muslim world then perhaps we should not allege that a majority of americans are motivated by anti islamic prejudice on no grounds other than our own prejudice against those americans. You stand up and tell the muslim world that americans are a bunch of islamophobes and then tell those denying that america is any such place that they are damaging america in the eyes of muslims!! fucking incredible.
Azarkhan

Mideast commentators argue that many in the region view the clash as a wholly American spectacle — about political posturing and the lingering wounds of 9/11 — that distracts from genuine troubles such as Iran’s growing clout or Israel’s pressure on Gaza.

“The mosque is not an issue for Muslims and they don’t care about it being built,” wrote Saudi columnist Abdel Rahman Rashed in the pan-Arab Asharq al-Awsat newspaper.

“Some Muslims would even consider building a mosque there would be a permanent reminder of the acts of terrorists, who carried out their crime in the name of Islam,” he added….

“There is indifference,” complained Sheik Fawzi el-Zefzaf, a member of Egypt’s Islamic Scholars Association. “The Arab and Muslim worlds should be supporting the imam,” he said, referring to Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, whose Cordoba Initiative is behind plans for the $100 million, 13-story project about two blocks from where the Twin Towers once stood.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38819775/ns/world_news-mideastn_africa/
CAconservative

This article is suggesting that by arguing the issue, we bring further terrorist activity on us. This is not a legal issue, we all concede that. This issue is about religious morality, or in this case, the lack of religious morality. The systematic embedding of the Muslin-religion in European countries, and the devastating aftermath is well documented. Not only should we be discussing the the lack of religious-morality of Muslims in this issue, we should be investigating it from every level. This is far more, than just a religious issue…
shootfromthehip

Wow THANKS redneck American and retard Cons! You’ve finally given the radical muslims a reason to think America is an intolerant and hateful place.
lonestar77

shootfromthehip says:
August 24, 2010 at 2:05 pm (Quote)
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“Wow THANKS redneck American and retard Cons! You’ve finally given the radical muslims a reason to think America is an intolerant and hateful place.”

He says using bigotry & hate. Haha. What a complete douche-bag. Some people are so stupid, you feel sorry for them. Shootfromthehip is so stupid, you just have to point and laugh at him. Bwahahahaaha.
shootfromthehip

I don’t care if you hate me, “lonestar,” it’s the people with bombs we have to worry about.
shootfromthehip

And yes, anyone who uses the name “lonestar” is probably a redneck (and likewise, anyone who uses “bwahahahaha” is as stupid as any 14-year-old on the internet).
Nachi

The level of gross ignorance of the unwashed, rancid Murcuhn masses just grows and grows.
lonestar77

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!
KMLake

Leave the world’s Muslim people alone for God’s sake. One of the best people I know in this world is a Muslim woman who epitomizes all the grace and goodness all people of faith aspire to. I don’t understand all her values, but I accept them and support her right to follow her own beliefs. She has the ability to care about me and my family, even though we are very different in almost every way. I’ve been a Christian all my life and I can’t stand what has come to represent A public face of my faith… goulish, hate mongering, bigots who have nothing better to do than attack minorities and check religious credentials with all the glee of a proctologist. Good Lord (and I DO mean THE Lord). Since when do others get to question us or “take us at our word” regarding our faith? What is this another inquisition? My relationship with God is none of your business. It is the most vital, important, intimate and private thing in my life. Keep your sticky fingers out of my spirituality. But, if you do insist on “inquiring,” please ask the pseudo-christian hate mongers like Tom Emmer or his buddies in “you can run” whether or not they are actually Christian. They want the destruction, even murder, of American Citizens who are not like them (YCR states this disgusting belief openly… Emmer simply donates to them). How is it that this evil became one of the public “faces” of my faith? As a devout, life-long, Christian I resent this speculation about, Obama’s or anyone’s love of God and/or acceptance of Christ as their saviour. That’s between them and their maker (and I am certain He doesn’t like meddling fools). Most (the VAST majority of) Muslims are not the real “bogey man” here. I am far more leery of my fellow Christian, “grand inquisitors” who set themselves up to take the measure of another person’s relationship with God. My own ancestors were Quaker martyrs, whose only crime was standing up to puritans who objected to resistance and the Quaker belief that the light of God exists in everyone… and that we should try to see it. The Baptists (I was baptized in a Four-Square Baptist Church almost 40 years ago) hate the Catholics, the Catholics hate the gays as do the Mormons (and they hate each other more), Methodists don’t accept them, the “peace churches” are a threat to the control of the “party line” of the church in general, fundamentalists (of every variety and faith hate everyone different from themselves) …. oh yeah and ALL Muslims are against America (making a joke here folks). When does it end? Who is perfect enough to pass the test? People who think they can assess the depth and quality of another person’s love of God … are the “bogey man” and we should all be afraid…. very, very afraid (and really angry too… angry enough to return our churches to places of love, acceptance and faith). Take back the church from hate mongers and God bless all Muslim people who seek peace and support freedom of religion and thought.
http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

The anti-American recruiting tool, Glenn Beck, is serving the purposes of Al-Quada. The demagogues like Beck and Gingrich are harming this country’s security. Obama likes Lincoln, and Lincoln shut down the newspapers in the north that he saw as hurting the Union’s cause. It’s not completely unthinkable that Obama would move to shut down Fox “News” and certain talk radio hosts if this attack on Muslim’s 1st Amendment rights is not curbed by those, like Ron Paul, on the right who actually act like grown ups.
KMLake

Let’s get together world and designate a few square miles of island somewhere remote for all fundamentalist hate mongers (of ANY religion) to go live together in madness. Then the rest of us can get down to the business of living together in peace, worshiping as we choose, respecting each others values, helping each other, easing the pain of those who suffer and creating a decent world for kids to grow up in.
Azarkhan

KMLake said:
goulish, hate mongering, bigots who have nothing better to do than attack minorities and check religious credentials…Good Lord (and I DO mean THE Lord)…What is this another inquisition?… I am far more leery of my fellow Christian, “grand inquisitors”…When does it end? Who is perfect enough to pass the test?

Melodramatic much?
lonestar77

GlennBeckReview says:
August 24, 2010 at 2:57 pm (Quote)
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“blah, blah, crazy stuff…”

You should look into a townhouse in Pyongyang’s upper west side. You’d love it there. It’s dreamy. Dissent isn’t tolerated. Your utopia!
KMLake

Azarkhan said:
Melodramatic much?

Just a little angry about what’s become of my faith. Are you of a different opinion?
Azarkhan

KMLake said:
Are you of a different opinion?

I don’t view the controversy over the mosque as armageddon or the apocalypse. In fact, if Imam Rauf would simply decide to build his mosque several blocks away, out of sight of Ground Zero, the issue would be over.

Having said that, I’m happy that the Left has decided to make this a defining issue for Americans. Anything that contributes to the decisive defeat of the Democratic Party in November is most welcome.
gottosay

In the name of religion African people were placed under slavery once many arrived on teh shores of america; in the name of religion Chinese people were placed in seritude one arrived in america—if the population at the time were to be asked to help these people none would have come forth or too little will make a difference—we cannot fold under the authority of something evil—we must stand if the mosque does move then this nation lost and will the muslim nation here in america the doors are closed to free expression and religion and the right to live—the choice is now —stop this bull support for evil so we can move forward —break ground with hired people working—prove the battle is tough but can be won—the battle against ignorance and insecurity—take this nation off the plate of the nasty disloyal one and place this nation in the hands of the creator—redemption is possible
gottosay

the community center /mosque is down the street two New York city blocks and around the corner a few more blocks cannot be seen on street level—get goggle map and check it out
KMLake

Azarkhan said:
I don’t view the controversy over the mosque as armageddon or the apocalypse. In fact, if Imam Rauf would simply decide to build his mosque several blocks away, out of sight of Ground Zero, the issue would be over. Having said that, I’m happy that the Left has decided to make this a defining issue for Americans. Anything that contributes to the decisive defeat of the Democratic Party in November is most welcome.

Why just the left? I think those protesters seem a pretty “far far right” to me (I also wonder how many of them actually had family members lost in the Twin Towers?). We agree though on the advisability of moving the mosque in a show of support and sensitivity to those who lost their lives. But, wouldn’t it be even more of an honor to them to one-up those 9/11 murderers by showing the world how much better we are as a people and as a society than they could ever have hoped to be.
DrFunke

This site is taking the wrong approach to this mosque issue

You keep presenting facts as if those who oppose it will suddenly realize that they are wrong

The fact that every rumor about this mosque has been debunked and they STILL oppose it tells you all everything you need to know

They oppose it because Fox News told them to and being as they can probably barely read, we shouldn’t expect them to do any sort of research
Azarkhan

gottosay said:
if the mosque does move then this nation lost

The nation wasn’t lost during the Civil War, various recessions, the Great Depression, World War II, Vietnam, Watergate, or 9/11. I think it can endure a change of address for a mosque that hasn’t been built yet.
Azarkhan

KMLake said:
Why just the left?

It is the Left that is being obstinate in refusing to consider moving the mosque. I had no idea the Left cared so much about religion until the present controversy arose. I wonder: do they feel as strongly about the rights of Christians?
Azarkhan

KMLake said:
But, wouldn’t it be even more of an honor to them to one-up those 9/11 murderers by showing the world how much better we are as a people and as a society than they could ever have hoped to be.

No. But anyway, since we cannot ask the dead, perhaps we should follow the wishes of their survivors, the majority of whom do not want a mosque built near Ground Zero.
KMLake

Azarkhan said:
It is the Left that is being obstinate in refusing to consider moving the mosque. I had no idea the Left cared so much about religion until the present controversy arose. I wonder: do they feel as strongly about the rights of Christians?

I don’t know… but I hope they do. I, as I’ve said many times, am a Christian. I don’t feel any of my rights related to my religion have been denied or even threatened by either right or left politicos. I do, however, feel that some people who say they are of my faith, go out of their way to represent the most draconian ideas, repression and the control (unto death) of other human beings. Then I bow to the wishes of those in mourning over those whose religious freedom I would defend with my life. However, how do we know that the majority of their survivors do not want this location (and beware of majority rule… it’s not always the best test of goodness or what is best for our country… note: maj of Americans did not want blacks to be equal in the 50′s and 60′s). However, if it can be proved to me that surviving family members are uniformly against it… I will respectfully disagree, but shut-up about the location issue (except for my whole-hearted support of Muslim Americans… and if they protest this limitation on their right to worship when and where they choose… I will stand with them, placard in hand).
Azarkhan

KMLake said:
and beware of majority rule

Yes, I know. The majority of voters went for the Democrats in 2008, and now all of us have to suffer. ;>)

I have to go now. Chat with you later-
http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Jones/1384303476 Chris Jones

Who cares? The terrorists hate us anyway. That’s no excuse for not speaking out against the mosque.
moneymack

ok i took great pains to read all the posts and responses to this blog. these posts are hilarious, but let me give my take. fox first reported about this mosque back in dec 09. no one cared, the far right started attacking and all hell broke loose say about may. now the initial outrage never targeted the imam, that was after their argument of sensitivity started losing support. they went on to tar the imam as a bad actor because of comments attributed by him on the culpable role the US played on causing 9.11. it was crickets then cause he was of course an ally and emissary for the bush admin.
in 2005 saudi prince buys a stake in fox news. now this is where this gets tricky. this saudi prince is the same person who right after the terror attack he gave the city of New York $20 million bucks along with a lecture about US foreign policy. this was guiliaini’s famous “rub your filthy money on ya chest!” moment with brought him huge accolades. this same prince who murdock 4 years later gladly sold 7% of his newscorp. stock to also a sound of crickets.
fast forward to 2010 now and the same comments that they are attacking imam rauf (similar sentiments mind you of fox news own glenn beck) and the sentiments of the saudi prince owner of newscorp are absolute deal breaker for the building of park51. of course fox news also must tack on the matter of a money trail back to terror ties, of which it is commonly held since 2001 that this same princes royal family routinely sends money to the families of suicide bombers and terrorists, including al quaeda.
whats learned today in the ensuing article about the meeting btwn newscorp and rotana media, (a saudi media company responsible for the airing of the the anti-US/Israel al jazeera network) where we now learn that newscorp $70(0?) million investment is stock owner ship in said media corp.
questions
1. is fox news duplicity ever more apparent? YES
2. does fox repudiate the saudi princes sentiment as well as glenn becks in the same manner as it did the imam raufs? HELL NO
3. should fox loyalist believe now that fox has a sincere agenda in america’s national security interest? HELL NO
4. does fox care that this family sends money to terrorist families? HELL NO
5. does fox care that you give them ratings so that some of this success helps profit saudi princes investment in terrorist families? HELL NO
6. will fox news loyalist look at this as a nothing to see here moment? OF DAMN COURSE THEY WILL!!!
5. should fox be boycotted?
Azarkhan

moneymack said:
5. should fox be boycotted?

Aren’t leftists (except for the hall monitors at Mediaite and MediaMatters) already doing that? If not, why not? It’s not like the rest of us give a shit if you watch Fox News.
KMLake

Azarkhan said:
Yes, I know. The majority of voters went for the Democrats in 2008, and now all of us have to suffer. ;>) I have to go now. Chat with you later-

Okey Dokey – thanks for being civil. Till Soon, K
http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

lonestar77 says: “GlennBeckReview says: “blah, blah, crazy stuff…” You should look into a townhouse in Pyongyang’s upper west side. You’d love it there. It’s dreamy. Dissent isn’t tolerated. Your utopia!”

Uh huh; I am a dissident! I’ve been on the streets protesting the nuclear arms race and promoting the nuclear freeze, so get out of my face.

Beck is NOT engaged in honest and loyal opposition to this Administration. What he’s doing at this point is strengthening our Al-Quada enemies. Other Mormons are alarmed at Beck’s very un-Christian like rhetoric. You, if you knew the difference between honest dissent and dishonest, yellow propaganda, should also be alarmed. That you’re not is a statement of your ignorance, your utter lack of knowledge about how dissent is supposed to work and of what Beck is doing to the gullible army he’s culling and calling to Washington this week.
KMLake

moneymack said:
ok i took great pains to read all the posts …will fox news loyalist look at this as a nothing to see here moment? OF DAMN COURSE THEY WILL!!!5. should fox be boycotted?
KMLake

woops
moneymack said:
ok i took great pains to read all the posts …will fox news loyalist look at this as a nothing to see here moment? OF DAMN COURSE THEY WILL!!!5. should fox be boycotted?

Yep. Rupert Mudock the vampire king, sucking all life, hope and love our of my people with his every “death rattle” of a breath.
lanquihue

I and most people stopped caring a long time ago about offending muslims. If we oppose the mosque, we recruit al-qaeda. Although for two weeks now, I’ve been reading lefties say that the mosque should be built, because it’ll be an “in your face” to al qaeda. If I draw a picture of the Mo Man, it’ll recruit al qaeda, if I think islam sucks, it’ll recruit al qaeda. Tell you what, it’s not about offending al qaeda, shit, they were blowing stuff up and killing innocent people in the name of islam long before the Ruskies waltzed into Afghanistan. Every time someone looks at some muslim, they claim to be offended, and so you have a bunch of left wing pussies tip-toeing around, all of a sudden they love a religion that rapes, tortures, and kills, as a matter of their stupid “sharia” law.
BobbysJury

Oh Lord, Sarah get the kids in the igloo! Here come the Mooslims! Keep them kids quiet, Sarah! For God’s sake, you know what them Mooslims did to our ice shanty in 2001. Screw radical Islam!
http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

Lamquihue, it’s coming from the radical islam websites, this anti-Constitutional opposition to Park 51 and other mosques is being used to recruit. Get the facts! http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com and here if you look around enough! YOu opponents are endangering the troops in the field!
KMLake

lanquihue said:
I and most people stopped caring a long time ago about offending muslims. If we oppose the mosque, we recruit al-qaeda. Although for two weeks now, I’ve been reading lefties say that the mosque should be built, because it’ll be an “in your face” to al qaeda. If I draw a picture of the Mo Man, it’ll recruit al qaeda, if I think islam sucks, it’ll recruit al qaeda. Tell you what, it’s not about offending al qaeda, shit, they were blowing stuff up and killing innocent people in the name of islam long before the Ruskies waltzed into Afghanistan. Every time someone looks at some muslim, they claim to be offended, and so you have a bunch of left wing pussies tip-toeing around, all of a sudden they love a religion that rapes, tortures, and kills, as a matter of their stupid “sharia” law.

Lanquihue – your anger is coming across loud and clear. But please don’t “throw out the baby with the bath water.” The VAST majority of Muslims do not hate us. I would predict that all but a handfull of American Muslims are good Americans. As a Christian and an American patriot, I support their right to worship as, when and where they choose. Don’t confuse Islam with fundamentalist terrorists who hate everyone unlike themselves. It’s fundamentalism that is the enemy of my country and my people, not Islam.
KMLake

Also brother… if you have a good point to make (and I suspect you are smart and literate enough to make one) you really don’t have to resort to name calling and other silly things like that. If you have a point, use your mind to convince others. Insults only alienate and make you enemies you probably don’t deserve. Why make others turn against a point you are trying to make … just to vent.
whoframedrudy

This article says Muslims are terrorists. That sounds like a call for profiling Muslims. The article says young Muslims are prone to violence, that because of their religion/ethnic identity, they are easily manipulated into terrorism by crazy Imams. Brilliant! You just made the case for special bomb screening of all Muslims at the airport.

Is this person crazy? You want SWAT raids in every Mosque in this country? Ever hear of COINTELPRO? Try COINTELPRO to the tenth power on crack, that’s what you’ll get if anyone believes this stupid story.

Now if I believed this idiotic story that Muslims are so nutty they are going to strap on C4 and become suicide bombers because of the Ground Zero Mosque controversy, I might support Muslim profiling. The way I see it, if Imam Rauf tells you the U.S. murdered 500,000 Muslim children and you’re still sitting on your fat ass in jihadi ‘chatrooms’, then the Mosque controversy is not going to do it for you. But other people might read this article as a justification for Muslim profiling.

However, there’s no doubt that American-Islamic relations are suffering because of the Ground Zero Mosque. That’s Cordoba’s fault. That’s why they should move the Mosque. And ‘No Comment’ Obama is failing to lead in this diplomatic crisis.
lanquihue

KMLake said:
Lanquihue – your anger is coming across loud and clear.

Good. Because I am angry. I’m angry at muslims who lie when they talk about building bridges, when their actions clearly demonstrate that they’re not the least bit interested in doing so. I’m also angry at leftist pussies who willingly offer themselves up as useful idiots.

KMLake said:
I support their right to worship as, when and where they choose.

Then I’m sure you also support my right to be pissed off at douchebags. The people who oppose the mosque aren’t questioning anyone’s rights, no matter how much your stupid imam or whatever those assholes are called tell you to frame it that way.

I’ll tell ya something there, bro, these people aren’t like your liberal pals. You can’t give them a nod and a wink and then they’re your buds because you’ve shown them that you’re willing to play ball. They see you as in idiot and a tool, nothing more.
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He didn’t tell ME so, I told HIM so. No matter how this mosque things works out, the islamofascists will spin it in their direction; if they DON’T build it at ground zero, they will show the world how “sensitive” the muslims are to the feelings of others, if the DO build it, they will show the world how they’ve brought down the “Great Satan.” Hell, Stevie Wonder could see that one coming.

The BIGGER issue is this: Every left wing moon bat is pushing for the mosque to be built in situ. Can ANYONE name me one instance where the left wing moon bats have pushed so fervently for the building of a church of ANY OTHER denomination? Certainly, the LWMBs were totally silent when the Greek Orthodox denomination wanted to build a church nearby.

If you listen to the LWMBs, you hear them decrying the Catholics, the LDS, the Baptists, the Jews, and every other faith.