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Republican Jewish Coalition Not Inviting Ron Paul To Forum Because It’d Be ‘Like Inviting Obama’

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Next week, the Republican Jewish Coalition is planning a forum to be attended by all of the Republican candidates… with the notable exception of Ron Paul. Mais why?

Well, RJC executive director Matt Brooks told the Washington Jewish Week that Paul was not invited to attend because the organization “rejects his misguided and extreme views” concerning Israel. In addition, “he’s just so far outside of the mainstream of the Republican party and this organization” that inviting him to attend the forum would be “like inviting Barack Obama to speak.”

You may recall that, during last month’s CNN debate, Paul made it clear that, if elected president, he would not aid Israel in military action against Iran and, furthermore, he does not see “why Israel needs our help” anyway. He added that “they can take care of themselves” before concluding that Americans should not be comfortable with any military action “without a proper declaration by the United States Congress.”

RELATED: Rep. Ron Paul: I Would Not Aid Israel In Military Action Against Iran

As Gawker points out, Paul has a notoriously loyal following that will not hesitate to throw down — or, really, chase a pundit or two — in their candidate’s defense.

h/t Washington Jewish Week

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  • Michelle

    Now wait, according to Barry:

    “I Try Not To Pat Myself Too Much On The Back, But I’ve Done More For Israel’s Security Than Any Other Administration”…

    Shouldn’t they love him?

  • Jay

    They don’t want anyone who refuses to affirm their bias.

    According to the Republican Jewish Coalition, if you don’t have a lust for want war with Iran, you oppose Israel.

  • Anonymous

    Who the F is your crazy ass quoting?   Do understand how quotation marks work right? 

  • Michelle

    Well dimwit, as I said, I’m quoting Obama. 

  • Henry Wood

    Ron Paul’s reluctance to support imperialist slaughter is really hurting his chances in the Republiklan primary.  He might very well be the front-runner if he would just start threatening to nuke all the brown people.

    He’s just not bloodthirsty enough to appeal to the republiklan base.

  • Jay

    …and torture them as well.

  • Anonymous

    Jay,
    Apparently it’s not just Iran — it’s the entire Middle East!  As a Christian, I “support The Jews” (by contributing monthly to the Jewish Voice ministries.) 

    American Christians have replaced God with the US gov’t.   –  so sad…  :(

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AOZGQUA2RXBBMT3WCUGRXXGVXQ Mike

    If I’m correct a poll was released which showed that most Israelis are in line with that sentiment with a majority believing the president is either pro-israel or neutral, right?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AOZGQUA2RXBBMT3WCUGRXXGVXQ Mike

    But according to many on the right only the left does that.

  • Anonymous

    I hope people realize that there is a reason the media, the opinionated hacks on tv, this jewish republican coalition and others dont like Ron Paul. Yes its true they dont like his views on almost anything and thats because he is to damn smart and not a puppet like everyone else wants him to be. Ron Paul. Why in the world can we not have a real debate where every candidate is allowed to answer each question instead of picking certain people to answer certain questions. Ron Paul is the only one who has common sense views that actually make sense, even if you dont agree with it there is no denying that what Ron Paul says is true, his consistency is unmatched by anyone. So the media does not like Ron Paul but there has to be a reason Ron Paul is liked more by people actively serving in the military and veterans than any other candidate running for president. The media had failed this country, and we are going to fail ourselves if we continue to allow the same political puppets to be elected. RON PAUL 2012

  • Anonymous

    My bad..I read that wrong.. I love you Michelle.. Ha!  

  • Craig Rosenberg

    I’m Jewish and terribly offended that Mr. Paul has not been invited to attend the RJC forum. What a disgrace! 

  • http://twitter.com/DolefulLions Doleful Lions

    I wonder how the Republican Jewish Coalition feels about Rick Perry saying that every country starts at $0 in foreign aid from the United States?

  • Anonymous

    Touche’  !

    Is it safe to say that people all over the world have looked to their governments to be their salvation? When in reality most modern govt’s keep their people in fear in order to maintain their power?

    Where did the phrase “history repeats itself” come from?  (rhetorical question of course — I have google AND wikipedia!!)   :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-Randal/100000535186834 James Randal

    Excellent. It’s about time Republicans grew a pair and started offending zionists, just like they offend everyone else.

  • Jay

    Ron Paul is a Christian, and he hasn’t.  Here Paul is discussing some Old Testament Jewish guy named Samuel.

    “Ron Paul: True Liberties Come From Our Creator, Not the Government” –

    http://www.christianpost.com/news/ron-paul-our-liberties-come-from-our-creator-50858/

  • Anonymous

    You’d think Jews would back a candidate who supports liberty rather than an authoritarian…

  • Jay

    Do something about it.

    It would be great to see an event that same evening sponsored by the group Jews for Ron Paul.

    http://www.facebook.com/JewsForRonPaul

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-Randal/100000535186834 James Randal

    Your sarcastic remark is actually quite truthful. Obama has killed

    1) Osama
    2) Awlaki
    3) Gaddafi

    They should be thanking him, however, due to their hatred of Muslims, they despise him.

  • http://profiles.google.com/sanjaysingh.boston Sanjay Singh

    Paul supports Israel. He is a friend of Israel.

    Paul will not interfere in Israel’s internal affairs.

    Paul supported when Israel bombed Osirak in Saddam’s time in 1981.

    Paul supports voluntary aid to Israel and all the world.

    American citizens can fight for Israel and donate all their $ to Israel.

    Paul is very pro-Israel.

  • Anonymous

    Jay — I am familiar with “Samuel” (and Ron Paul’s comments)

    FYI — I almost named my second son Samuel, instead I chose “Jason” whom we now call “Jay”  :) 

  • Anonymous

    nicely stated…

    Hey US Christians — how much of “your” money are you “giving” to Israel — there are plenty of good charities that “support The Jews”.   (i’ll show you my records, if you’ll show me yours…)

  • Anonymous

    I guess they’re not real Americans either.

  • Anonymous

    Hey, Michelle, while we’re quoting people, how about explaining these two quotes from another thread, just two hours apart:

    Michelle: “I don’t call others vile names. ”

    Michelle two hours earlier: “They only stick up for liberal femi-nazi’s.”

    Just askin’…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WH3ZLMM7CUKUHUIMK4TKXW6SQE John

    I really did wish a website dedicated to covering the media would cover the complete lack of objectivity that Ron Paul has received from our news organizations.  It’s baffling.

  • Anonymous

     True. And you would think that pro israel conservatives wouldn’t support a socialist welfare state but the world works in very mysterious ways.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Henry-Pascale/1147022338 Henry Pascale

    She’s Evil , just like her husband, Obama the Traitor of the USA

  • http://twitter.com/Staciisa_bitch Staci Chase

    I wouldn’t worry about it they make up like about 1% of the population.  

  • Jay

    They know that unlike Paul, Perry won’t keep his word when the pressure is on.

  • http://profiles.google.com/fatlibertarianinokc Fat Libertarian

    Maybe this is a badge on Ron’s arm?

  • Anonymous

    They do…that’s why he got 80% of their vote in 2008…Einstein, and he still gets a majority of the American Jew vote of approval today. Try and look at the polls sometime…pookie.

  • Anonymous

    You would be right, and Michelle, as usual, is a complete idiot and knows nothing of substance.

  • Anonymous

    This is where she “pretends” not to see your post and completely ignores this thread. She does it all the time when you nail her on her cognitive dissonance.

  • Anonymous

    Sorry, we do not allow facts and rational statements in here. 

  • Anonymous

    It’s also because he fuckin crazy, and flirts with neo nazis and White Supremacist(Lew Rockwell and Alex Jones). I a hard core conservative would pull the lever for a third party or (heaven forbid) Barack himself before voting for that  crazy ass uncle I never wanted.Then possibly shoot myself for really KNOWING what the term “lesser of two evils” means.

    Ron Paul retirement 2012!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Why are you terribly offended that a hawkish pro defense and pro Israel group doesn’t want to invite someone who hates everything they stand for?(and they feel the same way) As a jew I wholeheartedly agree with them.

  • Anonymous

    That’s where I’m coming form. Under no circumstances whatsoever will I vote for this reactionary, anti-semitic peacenik “We brought 9/11 ourselves” pacifist Chomnskyite crank.
    And I’ll say it: I will, yes, be amenable to Barack Obama being re-elected under those circumstances. As members of the Purity Brigade used to tell me– Sometimes you win by losing.
    I would decide at that point to use my own “Sometimes we win by losing” chits at that point. As was said of Mike Castle — it’s better that we lose, because at least the guy in office won’t be one of our own, making those bad decisions.
     
    http://minx.cc/?post=324240

  • Michael _

    Ooooh, you are not very bright pascale are you?

     … becoming the emblematic stupidity of a HS education at your highest aspiration but more likely just a ged?  You may leave us now.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UEO7NCUMTSISX3E34UKFVJ2NG4 Kobus

    You don’t know what conservative is NEOCON.

  • Charles Ulysses Feney

    No wonder Netanyahu doesn’t want Israeli Jews to marry American Jews.

    This is a big plus for Ron Paul!

  • Independent Thought

    Christ, man. Little less coffee and a lot more weed. 

    Pet a kitten or some shit. Jesus.

  • expatpatriot

    Hey, Mr.-Brooks-of-the-RJC, can you spell “irrelevant?”

    That was purely rhetorical. Don’t hurt yourself trying.

  • Anonymous

    Give us your money even if you had to borrow it from China… and militarily protect us no matter how irresponsible and bandits-like we are and have been in the region.. otherwise we’ll tag you as an antisemite and destroy you political career. Out and out blackmail

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    Matt the RJC leader is hilarious!!  To be a leader of that organization Matt has put on a display of ignorance rivaled only by that of the Republican GOP candidates.  I have every confidence Israel can and would deal effectively with the threat from Iran. They have a history of capably dealing with such threats. I don’t agree with Ron Paul on much, but he called this right in the last debate – leave these problems to Israel. They’ll call us if they need us. Israel has about 300 nukes – they can take care of themselves. Dont’ read my remarks as not supporting Israel, I always have and always will – but Iran will be light work for Israel if Iran wants to be martyred. I know my Orde from my Wingate – and Israel learned a lot in the last century so as to not suffer lightly Iranian threats.

  • Anonymous

    Excellent. 

  • John Wallman

    Are the other candidates still going to participate in this ‘debate’?  Let’s get some news reporters asking the other candidates this question.

  • Anonymous

    In this case, if Ron wins we win because he will begin to correct the destructive policies that this government supports.  But if we lose we win, too, because 4 more years of Obama or any of the other candidates will keep this country on a course straight toward economic collapse.  And when that happens things will change and there will not be anything the government can do about it.  

    In addition, Ron Paul has educated so many people in these past two campaigns that the liberty movement has developed momentum that will continue long after he has left politics.  We win.

  • http://gregingleright.weebly.com/ Greg

    Best that the right manage it’s own fracture.  The eventual outlines should be fascinating to view.

  • Henry Wood

    Well I already knew about Ron Paul’s white supremacist leanings (Ron Paul Political Report), but I’m very surprised that they would bother a conservative.  I’m also surprised that “he fuckin crazy” would bother a conservative.  Don’t you know Michele Bachmann, Ricky Lube ‘n’ Feces, and Rick Perry are running for the republiklan nomination?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XXUI2U5IPS7IABBMSM4I27BYDA chris

    The entire point of a debate is to air opposing views.  Without Ron Paul, all you have is a competition to see who can bow lowest and write the checks fastest.

    As a parent, I know that I must allow my son to learn to be self-sufficient.  I cannot bail him out every time, I cannot give him a blank check, and I cannot fight his playground battles for him.  By the same token, I must not turn a blind eye to his mistakes, or refuse to see his faults.  That’s bad parenting.

    Foreign policy is the same on a grand scale; we should not be spoiling Israel.  We should not be fighting her fights for her.  They should not be dependant on, or limited by, the US government.

    Ron Paul is right.  If we TRADED with Israel (and Iran, Iraq, Lybia, etc.) then we could lead by example while imporving them economically.  If our example is to invade, occupy, and strong arm them while devouring their resourses, it’s small wonder they hate us.

  • Anonymous

    Not inviting Ron Paul is essentially like saying ‘we are going to have a debate where everyone agrees.’ i.e. not a debate at all. I think it’s a very childish political maneuver that the RJC would stoop to this level.

    It’s nice to know however, without a doubt, that the RJC feels like the Constitution of the United States of America is “misguided and extreme”, because that, in and of itself, makes the RJC misguided and extreme. I would suggest this borders on treason.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XXUI2U5IPS7IABBMSM4I27BYDA chris

    I’m pretty sure the RJC knows Ron Paul will give a very logical accounting of himself.  The RJC knows that allowing Ron Paul to speak to their base will increase Jewish support for his candidacy, and decrease support for the RJC’s objective: US Government financial support for the Government of Israel.

    This is about government to government transfer of wealth, not about “support” for the Jewish people.  Ron Paul is like the parent who holds his child to a higher standard, teaches responsibility, self reliance, and conflict resolution; RJC is looking for a politician that just hands over the credit card to the child with no limits and no questions.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XXUI2U5IPS7IABBMSM4I27BYDA chris

    It will cause more than a few eyebrows to raise.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XXUI2U5IPS7IABBMSM4I27BYDA chris

    To lable Ron Paul anti-Semitic is to admit you have not researched him in the least.  His two greatest teachers were Jewish WWII refugees from Austria.  Ron Paul’s economic policy (Austrian Economics) was born in the Jewish mind, and named for these two men.  This theory dictates his entire political platform.

    To call him anti-Semitic defies logic.  But moreso, to deny Ron Paul’s policy is to deny Austrian Economics, which puts one closer to anti-Semitism than opposing US aid to the Government of Israel.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XXUI2U5IPS7IABBMSM4I27BYDA chris

    It’s also ironic that Bibi Netanyahu wants US aid to Israel to stop, as well.

    Maybe Ben is an anti-Semite, too?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XXUI2U5IPS7IABBMSM4I27BYDA chris

    But they are a sygnificant percentage of the wealth of the nation.  The Jewish people are very astute businesspeople, much to the chagrin of… well… everyone else.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XXUI2U5IPS7IABBMSM4I27BYDA chris

    Well said, Bill.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XXUI2U5IPS7IABBMSM4I27BYDA chris

    It’s refreshing to hear a man say what he believes, regardless of what the current crowd wants to hear.  It’s just a shame that he gets left out of a “presidential” debate when he is clearly a frontrunner.

    If he has an opposing view, then refute it.  If you can’t beat him… well…?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XXUI2U5IPS7IABBMSM4I27BYDA chris

    Except that the regemes he’s toppled are now emerging as MORE anti-Israel than they were before Obama…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XXUI2U5IPS7IABBMSM4I27BYDA chris

    Less than $1,000 this year, plus my Wife and I attend Shabbat almost every Friday.  And we buy from their fundraisers…  Wife sings at events, cantors the high holy days, etc.

    That being said, it is immoral to steal tax dollars from Americans and send it to the government of Israel, which diminishes their sovereignty.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XXUI2U5IPS7IABBMSM4I27BYDA chris

    It’s strange how they both seem to have become the monsters they claim to oppose…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XXUI2U5IPS7IABBMSM4I27BYDA chris

    Twain said history doesn’t repeat… but it does rhyme.

  • Charles Ulysses Feney

    He’s an anti-Semite for sure.
    Palestinians, Egyptians, Iraqi, Libyan, Syrians are all TRUE SEMITIC people, and Ben hate all of them with a passion.

  • Anonymous

    Let’s pretend for a moment that Ron Paul was the President from 1980 to 1988.

    It is a safe bet that there would still be a Soviet Union. A MUCH, MUCH, MUCH stronger Soviet Union.

    There would still be an Iron Curtain, landmines, barbed wire, towers with trigger happy, sadistic guards on the border of each and every country that happen to be neighboring any member of the glorious Soviet Empire.

    There would still be hundreds (thousands ??) of people executed every day in the Communist World for daring to express any anti-system view.

    There would still be a nuclear weapons race.

    There would still be hunger, starvation, famine and misery in the Soviet Block, just as there is to this very day in Cuba, Viet Nam and North Korea. And all these countries would be happily and enthusiastically embraced by President Paul, all in the name of PEACE and friendship.

    In all fairness, though, there would probably be fewer welfare freeloaders, more local manufacturing jobs and better public education. 

  • https://me.yahoo.com/a/7nZpGKwT1fVdlb3YN6DXlA8PViJDMLL2bO_q#5aa2e ganymede

    It’s really disturbing that a good number of American Jews behave so badly, especially the Republican  Jews. There’s no way the United  States will ever abandon Israel. This hyped up,’my country can do no wrong’, in regards to Israel is self-defeating. First of all, as an American Jew, Israel is not my country. For sure, I am pro-Zionist and will do everything in my power to support Israel, but the whole world knows that Israel, while in a tight situation, is not doing everything it can to work things out with the Palestinians and the Arab world. Essentially, what Israel is currently doing is blackmailing the rest of the world to get its way, or they will do something really crazy like bomb Iran. Didn’t we learn anything from Bush’s misbegotten Iraqi adventure! Also, the continuing expansion of Israel on the West Bank is certainly going to make a settlement increasingly difficult. Jewish Republicans, in their blindness have joined up with the some of the most retrograde people in this country, namely Christian Zionist Fundamentalists, who definitely aren’t concerned with anyone’s welfare except for the tiny number of Christians who will survive the Rapture. A little more commonsense and maturity would help Jewish Republicans.

  • Anonymous

    Ron Paul is so anti-jewish that his political and economic philosophies largely come from von Mises, Hayek and Rothbard…all jews…

  • cookron70

    This is a great endorsement for Ron Paul. A group that puts another country’s interests over America’s has decided there’s no point to inviting Ron Paul to speak before them. Thank you Republican Jewish Coalition.

    For America!
    Ron Paul 2012.

  • Anonymous

    Quick!  Call the JDL.

  • Anonymous

    they will be really pissed when Ron wins the presidency, pulls American troop support from the region, and the terrorist nation of Israel gets torn limb from limb by the surrounding Arabs that Israel has terrorized for years. Back to the Desert Moses.

  • Anonymous

    Israel is rumored to have nukes, it has never been substantiated and tests were never performed as far as we know. Isreal is a small country and any nuclear device detonated would be detected by neighboring nations. Iraq was also rumored to have nukes and weapons of mass destruction and look how that turned out. If Israel has nuclear weapons they may not even be functional.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Luftschein/1184131299 Stephen Luftschein

    You couldn’t be more wrong.  His approval rating in Israeli is currently about 3%.  That’s not a misprint.   THREE.

  • NadePaulKuciGravMcKi

    with 1.7% of the US population;                                                               
    Why are there so many Israel-first dual-nationals in the US government?

  • Anonymous

    The Soviet Union would have collapesd anyway, it would have just taken a little longer. Their economy could not keep up with ours while spending fortunes on their military complex and the war in Afghanistan. The Soviet Union over extended it’s self and was doomed to failure. The Soviet Union still has thousands of nukes and many are on mobile vehicles which are difficult targets to target. There still is a nuclear danger, it’s just more subdued by other events in the middle east. Viet Nam is not a starving country, it’s a thriving country, we import many products from them. If Ron Paul had been president, we would have never invaded Viet Nam, Iraq or Korea without declairing war by the president and with the approval of congress. These wars were illegal and should have never been fought. Our government spends far too much on the military, we have no business being policeman to the world. I f we minded our own business we would be far better off.    

  • Dale Hogue

    Prior to World War II, in the 1930s, the United States had a rather large number of people who thought as you do.  They were called isolationists.  They wanted our government to ignore what was going on in Europe or in the Far East.  No matter what the final outcome was in the war between the U.S. and Germany, Italy and Japan, these isolationist still believe to this day that they were right.  Of course, we and the rest of the civilized world would be controlled by Germany, Italy and Japan if they had had their way.  If we had not invaded Iraq when we did – (by the way, Bush had  the permission to attack Iraq from both the United States Congress and the United Nations Security Council). That other Hussein guy would have had his very large armies fighting Iran for control of the Middle East and, you can bet that both of these countries would have used atomic weapons and atomic bombs to help them blow up the entire Middle East regardless of what isolationist President Ron Paul had to say about us not getting involved.   

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1494856454 Dean Dutcher

    Who’s hosting this debate, Rick Sanchez or Helen Thomas? Who ever is asking the questions please ask Bachman why she would give billions of u.s. tax payers dollars, billions in contracts and u.s. jobs to Israel, when abortion is legal there in a nation that has universal health care. Death panels approve abortions in Israel, why would any of the GOP pro-life canidates support sending billions to israel?

  • Anonymous

    Ron Paul is running for the Republican nomination and Jews are always screaming anti semetic..well this is why people start to dislike Jews..I used to call you jewish but when you pick on such a great man like Ron Paul your just a friggen jew ..I hope Iran kicks your ass for what your doing censoring a canadate in Our Country not your country..this is our country..go back to Israel

  • Anonymous

    Ron Paul is running for the Republican nomination and Jews are always screaming anti semetic..well this is why people start to dislike Jews..I used to call you jewish but when you pick on such a great man like Ron Paul your just a friggen jew ..I hope Iran kicks your ass for what your doing censoring a canadate in Our Country not your country..this is our country..go back to Israel ..We don’t Censor people in America..The other Canadates should be appualed and back out of this debate..Ron Paul as alot to bring to the table and i’am a Republican i always have been i voted for President Reagan and Bush..so this is totally wrong..Its not going to change my mind or anyone elses..When he wins Iowa…There will just be a bunch of Jews with thier tails between thier legs for being so friggen unfair and stupid..Ron Paul is the most conservative..Oh thats right Jews own most of the banks that got bailed out..thats why u don’t want Ron Paul..The other Canadates are going to lay in bed with the banksters who got bailed out!!!..Thats cool Ron Paul doesn’t need to be seen with people like you anyway !!!

  • Anonymous

    First of all neither Iraq or Iran have nuclear weapons and it hasn’t been proven that Isreal has them either. I do not believe the U.S. should be an isolationist state. I believe the U.S. should engage in fair trade with other nations as Ron Paul does. I don’t think our troops should die for another nation that isn’t prepared to defend itself against an aggressor nation. Our military was intended to defend our nation, not someone else’s. All we have done is make more enemies around the world. They don’t cherish our freedom so much as they hate our occupation of their land. Our troops are all over the world defending other countries and not defending our own borders. Our enemies don’t need an army or navy to invade us, they can just walk accross our unprotected borders. We are closing military bases in the U.S. that support neighboring towns while we have over 700 bases overseas that support other nations. If our government didn’t restrict the oil and gas companies from drilling and delay the Canidan pipeline keeping 20,000 workers out of work we wouldn’t even be involved in the middle east. Ron Paul is the only candidate that has any sense, all others are war hawks and crooks looking to get rich on the hard working American people. All of congress is privy to insider trading, money is the only thing they care about, not the welfare of the country or the military.   

  • Dale Hogue

    I have no argument with you.  Iran does have nuclear capability and Iraq, prior to our invasion, was in the process of seeking information about how to build nuclear weapons.  You must remember that Bush went into Iraq because Hussein claimed that he had Weapons of Mass Destruction and was willing to use them against any and all enemies of Iraq — and we were at the top of that enemies list. Read the books written by Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld and you will be more informed about what happened during that period in our history.  Essentially what you and Paul are claiming is that the United States had no reason to invade countries that assisted Islamic terrorists who brought down the Twin Towers in New York City and crashed a plane into the Pentagon. Whether we should have been concerned about terrorist attacks against America and Americans living abroad is still debatable, if that is what you want to discuss.  I will not discuss matters which you’ve brought up that were not in your original post. However, you claimed that Bush got us into an illegal war with Iraq, but you are wrong.  If you read the books I suggested, you will find out just how wrong you were.  By the way,
    the president of the United States is vested with the power to defend and protect American interests at home and abroad.  The war in Afghanistan and Iraq are unique in that these countries gave safe harbor for terrorists who are hell bent on fighting all those people living in nations it feels should be punished for whatever crimes they believe have been committed against them and their cause — whatever that may be.  Since the end of World War II, our country’s government has joined with the United Nations to fight so-called police actions in places like Vietnam and Korea.  Our country wasn’t required to ”declare war” because these were police actions and there didn’t need to be a declaration of war.  Do the research yourself.  As for Ron Paul, I have no quarrel with him.  If he wants to advocate something then he is free to do so, but he doesn’t have the power to make things happen until he has been elected president of the United States.  You, however, seem bent on getting “the cart before the horse”.  Ron Paul is an old man who, if elected, will be 70 years old or older when he sits foot in the White House as president.  Look it up.  Most presidents are in their fifties or early sixties when elected to that office.  If his age doesn’t make a difference to you, then you are in the minority.

  • freedom14u

    The GOP is going down there’s no stopping it now.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=draq_GJt8v4&feature=player_embedded

  • freedom14u

    We get it. You aren’t voting for him. We are. No matter what you or your henchmen GOP wants, says, or does. I’ve voted straight Republican for more than twenty years and now every time I read an article like the one above or a comment from a drone like you I become more and more angered and disgusted by you Neocon/RINO hacks! You have all but destroyed the Republican party. Enjoy four more years of Obama due precisely to your own stupidity!

  • freedom14u

    Lots of us who have been Republicans for years and are far from being kids disagree with your views.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=draq_GJt8v4&feature=player_embedded

  • Anonymous

    I agree Iran does have nuclear capability but has not produced  nuclear weapons or a delivery system. Their military does not have an air force or ICBM’s. Iraq did not have a credible air force or ICB’s. Iraq had scud missiles that were not capable of striking a target more than 1,000 miles. Iran and Iraq were fighting  for many years before we invaded Iraq. Iran was Sadam’s mortal enemy as were the Islamic terrorist. Sadam would never allow terrorist to occupy his country, he wanted complete control. If Bush had let the inspectors complete their assignment in Iraq, there would have not been an invasion. Bush was too anxious to redeem the actions of his father and the mistakes the military made at the surrender talks of the first invasion. A police action is just a way of getting around the Constitution, article 1, section 8. Powers granted to Congress. Afghanistan terrorist training camps were our own making. Russia had invaded Afghanistan and was winning the war until the U.S. supplied stinger missiles to the terrorist. Russia lost so many aircraft and troops that they withdrew. Our government has created enemies all over the middle east starting with the Shah of Iran. If we just minded our own business and stayed out of the middle east, 9/11 probably would have never happened. We have enough oil and gas right here in North America, there is no reason for us to be in the middle east. Our own government is our biggest enemy. Ron Paul’s age is experience, he has seen it all and knows what works and what doesn’t. He won’t be an OJT president like Obama.  

  • http://www.facebook.com/gorandishannon Randi Shannon

    Whoever lives within several hours of the location of that debate MUST SET UP A RON PAUL RALLY RIGHT NEXT DOOR!!! It worked in Des Moines in 08 when he was snubbed and it COMPLETELY BACKFIRED on the people who snubbed him.  ALL THE PRESS went to Paul and all the headlines were about what idiots the people were who snubbed him.  GET THIS ORGANIZED NOW.  ALL JEWISH REPUBLICANS AS WELL AS RON PAUL SUPPORTERS.  

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kurt-Roessle/1593126993 Kurt Roessle

    Obama is LOATHED by the Jews here, I have an uncle that’s Jewish and NEVER voted Republican but is because of Barry Hussein…..he’s tied to the Muslim Brotherhood and setting up an extreme Muslim regime to take the place of the ousted Hosni Mubarak — ‘course MSNBC and CNN won’t tell you that……..

  • Anonymous

    I don’t care who your uncle is or whether his prostitute friend is Jewish. I am going by POLLS that sample and represent the demographic as a whole.

     I could find one black guy who hates Obama’s guts and thinks he is the reincarnation of the devil. That, however, would not change Obama’s HIGH approval within the African American community. Learn how to argue logically, genius. 

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/149522/jewish-support-obama-down-not-disproportionately.aspx
    http://www.pollwatchdaily.com/2011/07/05/obamas-mideast-speech-may-have-angered-israel-but-his-support-among-u-s-jews-remains-high/

    BTW…The Muslim brotherhood in Egypt are not extremists. You must be confusing them with the Nours. Do you have a problem with Egypt, a sovereign independent country, choosing their leadership via Democratic means? How well have those shadow and puppet US regimes done historically? Guffaw.

  • Anonymous

    There are many points to to cover in replying to you but for now suffice to say Ron Paul is not right HE IS WRONG AND HE IS IGNORANT AS HELL WHEN IT COMES TO FOREIGN POLICY.His attitudes of COMPLETE not intervention are ludicrous. We should not treat the U.K and Iran equally. One is an ally who consistently helps us and shares many cultural similarities with us and one tries to undermine us in every conceivable way. The same applies to Israel and Iran or any other middle eastern nation. That is patently obvious on its face. to not see the difference is to not see the difference between night and day.We do not “devour their resources” and say what you like about(I’m skeptical of the intervention in this case) Libya but we were supported by the vast majority of their citizens so they are not angry with us. (not that thats the main measure of whather it’s a worthwhile endeavour.Also, We have neither “invaded” Iran nor “devour their resources” and their citizens like us more than anyothere else in the middle east besides Israel. We didnt “devour” Iraqs’ respurces either.Thats more Ron Paulian fact free bullshit.

  • Anonymous

    I’m former commerce and finance double major who is libertarian leaning and a commidites broker so I’m very familiar with Austian economics.It’s not bad and makes some very interesting and valid points, but I’m more of a “Chicago School” Milton Friedman sort of fellow.

    Regardless,having admiration for completely non practising and totally non religious or even cultural jewish intellectuals does not exempt you from being an anti-semite at all. Most jews, liberal or conservative are good and very accomplished accomplished people. However because Jews dominate (compared to their % of the population) the ranks of intellectuals they have produced some of the worst purveyors of conspiracy filth from far margins of politics (along with lots of great non crazy ideas) In other words whether it’s capitalism or communism or libertarianism or fascism there are more than a few jews in their ranks and therefore to exempt Ron Paul from criticism that he’s conspiarcy monger who often alludes to blaming the shadowey “Jooooos” for all life’s problems is pointless. I know Ron Paul and his record of crazy rantings and associations too well for that.He is not a conservative ideologically. His economic policy is very attractive to many of us, although he goes a bit too far there as well but his foreign policy outlook can not even be called mainstream libertariasm. It’s unicorn and fairy dust “blame America first last and always” Anti American bullshit.

  • Anonymous

    A Rino? HA. Sorry I’m a pretty hardcore broad spectrum conservative. What that means is that I’m liberatarian leaning economically and to some extent socially. Pro life and pro law and order (In other words very few laws enforced stringently and to everybody and I support a big dominating miltary that can scare the shit out of our adversaries and reassure our close allies. I do no support “neo con” foreign policy but I do support “Jacksonian” foreign policy which fights wars to win overwhelmingly and quickly but tries to avoid any non war miltary entanglement or non startegic war.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_77NACA643HAKQ44VAHISCIRY3Y Mark Johnson

    The Soviet Union failed in large part due to it’s attempt to maintain empire in its satellite countries, waging war directly and indirectly around the globe, pumping billions of dollars into maintaining a huge military machine scattered all around the globe.

    Oh wait.  That’s the United States in about 5 years…

    Unless President Paul is in place to roll back the deficit spending, slash pointless and costly federal agencies,  disengage us from pointless wars and draw down most of the 900+ military bases around the world.

    Love America?  Vote Ron Paul.  
    Your country is Israel and you want Americans to spend, bleed and die on your behalf?
    Sorry.  I’m tired of doing that.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_77NACA643HAKQ44VAHISCIRY3Y Mark Johnson

    Yet the US Air Force War College has published a white paper detailing the sources of technology and radiological material for nukes, estimates that Israel has over 400 nukes, has numerous delivery systems and is working on advanced MIRV delivery systems.

    But I’m sure you have read the paper, know better than the US Air Force War College and can tell us succinctly why the experts at the War College are wrong and you are right.

    http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/cpc-pubs/farr.htm

    Meanwhile, Israel has shown itself to be quite capable of defending itself using conventional weapons. (See “Six-Day War”)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_77NACA643HAKQ44VAHISCIRY3Y Mark Johnson

    What the Neocon Republicans don’t understand is that Ron Paul is the only Republican who stands a chance against Obama.

    To start with, most Ron Paul supporters will NOT vote for another party hack (like Gingrich, Romney, Perry…).  So the Republicans LOSE those votes if Paul isn’t the nominee.  I don’t care whether you think his support is 8% or 38%… anything over 5% is enough to lose the election.  In addition, Paul is the ONLY republican candidate who will attract voters who supported Obama but are sorely disappointed in his failure to follow through on promises (the biggest one being to end the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan… and the implicit promise not to start NEW wars).  Additionally, Paul is the only candidate who actually has a plan to balance the budget, which should appeal to members of both parties – but doesn’t seem to particularly please the warmongering profiteers in the neocon group.

    Frankly, if Paul isn’t nominated, I would hope he would run third-party – totally destroying any dream of a neocon election.  In fact, I think he should announce that intention and make it clear – nominate Paul, or get 4 more years of Obama.

    To honest Americans, there shouldn’t be any doubt that Paul is the best choice.  He’s the only candidate who even knows what the Constitution says, let alone has 25+ years of doing his best to defend it.

  • Anonymous

    That’s it.  END ALL SUPPORT TO ISRAEL.  Also, end all support to everyone else. The american people are tired of being raped by the government of the USSA to bribe and buy personal favors from everyone else on earth.

  • Anonymous

    These are estimates of nuclear capability not facts. No known tests have been confirmed or monitored by outside sources. I could be wrong but, Iraq was also rumored to have nuclear weapons. If the inspectors were allowed to finish their inspections in Iraq we probably would not have an excuse to attack Iraq. I’m not aware of any inspections or claims by Isreal that they have nuclear weapons. Other nations that are confirmed to have nuclear weapons and missiles have tested them and Isreal has not. It is possible that Isreal conducted tests in the U.S. but not likely. There have not been nuclear tests in the U.S. for many years. I don’t understand why everyone is so paranoid about Isreal and the middle east, when Russia has thousands of nuclear weapons and are capable of destroyning the U.S. in minutes. Stop worring about what happens in the middle east, that’s their problem, not ours. We are so over extended now that we can’t even defend our own borders, Amarica first and always. 

  • Anonymous

    Kobus,

    I’m certain you don’t know what a “Neocon” actually means, dipshit. It doesn’t mean conservative who doesn’t like Ron Paul. Paul is neither conservative nor normal libertarian. He’s a kook, and a crank.

  • Aaron Mitschke

    Wussy Jews!!! They could invite him and attempt to shut him down, which wouldn’t happen… Except they are too scared to talk to him… Screw Israel…

  • Anonymous

    It is laughable that a coalition specifically for “Jews” would have any precedence in a presidential candidacy for the office of President of the United States no matter the candidate. The real question and concern should be why the Republican Jewish Coalition doesn’t enrich its-self by adopting Americas principals of desegregation and dissolve its-self? 

  • Anonymous

    I am a combat veteran (USMC) and I can tell you several stories about devouring resources in middle east, as well as creating people who really hate us for our actions. Are you saying israel should remain America’s little sister?

  • Anonymous

    Has any country on the planet ever used atomic bombs? if so then who should we be afraid of?

  • Dale Hogue

    The United States used them to end the war with Japan because the Japanese were planning to fight on until everybody was dead in Japan.  These two drops saved the lives of millions of Japanese and American military members.  After these two drops, no country has used them because of the fear that their country would be bombed out of existence.  However, if radical Islamic countries gain control of atomic weapons and lose control of these weapons, the entire world would be in danger of being destroyed by this misuse.  If you think differently, then you are in the minority.   

  • Anonymous

    Why did we not just pull out of Japan. We had them cornered and without a Navy or Air Force to speak of. Japan had very little fuel and all supplies were cut off. If you believe atomic bombs should have been used then you are in the minority.

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    From: Disqus
    To: gttournear@yahoo.com
    Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2011 11:48 AM
    Subject: [mediaite] Re: Republican Jewish Coalition Not Inviting Ron Paul To Forum Because It’d Be ‘Like Inviting Obama’

    Dale Hogue wrote, in response to standbyyourvansandt:
    The United States used them to end the war with Japan because the Japanese were planning to fight on until everybody was dead in Japan.  These two drops saved the lives of millions of Japanese and American military members.  After these two drops, no country has used them because of the fear that their country would be bombed out of existence.  However, if radical Islamic countries gain control of atomic weapons and lose control of these weapons, the entire world would be in danger of being destroyed by this misuse.  If you think differently, then you are in the minority. Link to comment

  • Dale Hogue

    It’s obvious that “standbyyourvansandt” is not old enough to remember the devastation of World War II and what the Japanese were capable of doing and what they did do.  We were NOT IN JAPAN we were in some of the Pacific islands many hundreds of miles from Japan.  We sent bombers daily to bomb different cities, but the Japanese government still refused to surrender.  If you thought that all we had to do to end the war was to send our troops, Air Force and Navy back to the American mainland, then you don’t know very much about how that war was fought.  The American government decided that the only way to end the fighting was for the Japanese government to surrender.  The Japanese government refused to surrender no matter how often they were asked to end the fighting.  

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Don-Torelli/100000765390512 Don Torelli

    Dude…you’re an idiot, there are so many flaws in your comment, it would take 4-5 paragraphs to untangle that mess. Paul is neither a conservative nor a Libertarian!!?? LMAO….you my friend need to get a book with big fonts and short pages.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Don-Torelli/100000765390512 Don Torelli

    Because WE DON’T NEED TO STAND WITH YOU!!! We need to stand with America!!! God that rhetoric is annoying.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Don-Torelli/100000765390512 Don Torelli

    Dude go stand with Israel and leave this country….no seriously go.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah definitely i
    I’ll listen to an internet commentator flirting with Ron Paulian stupidity. I’ll stand with America and Canada and Israel AND anyone else I damn please and continue to live in NYC. Ron Paul WILL NEVER EVER EVER BE PRESIDENT…..DUDE!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2C7QGEGGOOWQEGAOK3K7MTZ5I4 Buffalo Gal

    Considering how many anti-Semitic comments are attached by supporters to news stories about Ron Paul, I am not surprised Jewish organizations would not want to invite the candidate. Just go to Yahoo News, find the many Ron Paul stories, and scan the comments to find all the racist and anti-Semitic remarks. One could argue that those comments are not made by supporters, but then why are they given a majority “thumbs up” responses by other readers, and are not denouced by Ron Paul supporters. Ron Paul is an extremist, and he is attracting extremist supporters.

  • http://twitter.com/harveyvickery Harvey Vickery

    I think that to disallow Ron Paul to be on this debate is nonsense and this video may clear up some things for a lot of people who think Ron Paul is against Israel… http://www.ronpaul2012.com/2011/12/08/ron-paul-israel-our-best-friend/

  • Dave Garry

    Thoese who call Ron Paul a kook can never give reasons WHY they think he’s a kook.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BSGOPYKKFLI42KBAIR4YYQLQIY Tobe

    Ron Paul was citing Israel’s prime minister BNetanyahu comment on not needing U.S. support. If their own head say they don’t need it who are these push, push, push Jewish coalition, non-Jewish people haters to mock someone who was repeating what their own prime minister said? A vast majority of Jews in Israel also do not agree with it’s gov’t's position. But just like here, special interests with their own agenda takes front and center dragging the entire country out of sorts with the rest of the world. Everyone who is not Jewish or is an objective Jew, knew their would be back lashing for what Ron Paul said–f’ing hell, is this the U.S. or not? We are sick and tire of dying, feeding, enriching, sacrificing, subsidizing other countries. If the Jewish Coalition don’t want to support this country’s interests first, they should move back to Israel and use the resources their to fight their country’s wars. America first–and anyone living in the U.S. that do not agree with this requirement should get the hell out. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BSGOPYKKFLI42KBAIR4YYQLQIY Tobe

    Haha, this is funny–you are right. No one looks at the word Semite: semite speaking people covering the areas of the Middle East, northern Africa, Abrabs, Arameans, Babylonians, Carthaginians, Ethiopians, Hebrews, and Phoenicians–it does not refer to the Jewish people specically. Anti-semitic is really against the groups of people that speaks the semitic language–not a race, per se. So next time they say you’re anti-semitic, the proper response should be “I have nothing against your language.” So being that RPaul was only repeating what their Prime Minister had said, not needing U.S. support, what’s the Jewish Coalition’s beef? Are they against the what or the who, who said what? All the different people in America First!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BSGOPYKKFLI42KBAIR4YYQLQIY Tobe

    Your third paragraph is an excellent strategy, send it in to RonPaul2012.com–it can’t hurt. And the Constitution is why people immigrated to U.S.–protecting the Constitution is preserving freedom–what we have lost to special interests. Independents and democrats must register as a republican to vote in closed primaries (know your state’s requirements). Prove them all wrong, vote with your brain not the side they had conditioned you to be on. Vote for the idea, not the party. Switch political parties and keep switching as needed–make the system work for you, not the other way around. Make the reason why you live in the United States count.   

  • Anonymous
  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Hoo-Ami/100002413836775 Hoo Ami

    The Jews always vote Democrat, so who cares? They just want our money. That’s what they’re all upset about.

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