He knows his listeners will buy literally anything he tells them to, just as they take any position he tells them to. Conservatism in 2011 is not necessarily defined by conservative principles, but rather by what Rush Limbaugh and Fox News say it is.

Publius219 said:
He knows his listeners will buy literally anything he tells them to, just as they take any position he tells them to. Conservatism in 2011 is not necessarily defined by conservative principles, but rather by what Rush Limbaugh and Fox News say it is.

We conservatives are able to draw on our understanding of history to inform our positions. I can name for you a number of conservative thinkers who predate Rush Limbaugh, who are still influential today.

John Locke, Edmund Burke, Adam Smith, Milton Friedman, Ronald Reagan, Von Hayek, Barry Goldwater, De Toqueville

Thats just off the top of my head. Your turn! Who are your liberal historical influences?

Good luck getting some. The website is overloaded. I’m waiting for the Hannity Single Malt Scotch.

sweet tea just like his mother (a founding mother?) made…so, it’s very fattening. Enjoy!

blockchords said:
We conservatives are able to draw on our understanding of history to inform our positions. I can name for you a number of conservative thinkers who predate Rush Limbaugh, who are still influential today.

John Locke, Edmund Burke, Adam Smith, Milton Friedman, Ronald Reagan, Von Hayek, Barry Goldwater, De Toqueville

Oh please. “Reagan” is not Reagan. His legacy has been so incredibly distorted that it’s almost unrecognizable. He raised taxes 11 times, granted amnesty to illegal immigrants, worked with Democrats, increased the deficit and debt, and so on. Reagan is a RINO today.

blockchords said:
John Locke, Edmund Burke, Adam Smith, Milton Friedman, Ronald Reagan, Von Hayek, Barry Goldwater, De Toqueville

I’d be willing to bet that, other than Reagan, most self-described tea partiers could not tell you a single thing about any of them. Maybe Friedman or Goldwater, but that’s it.

Publius219 said:
Oh please. “Reagan” is not Reagan. His legacy has been so incredibly distorted that it’s almost unrecognizable. He raised taxes 11 times, granted amnesty to illegal immigrants, worked with Democrats, increased the deficit and debt, and so on. Reagan is a RINO today.

I’ll defend Reagan any day of the week. After he got elected he did make some compromises to advance his agenda. Believe it or not that is not antithetical to conservatism. In his presidency he set a foundation for slowing the growth of government that was abandoned by his republican successors, which makes him distinctly not a RINO. Surely his words & actions are a major influence on conservatism today.

I missed your influences. It seems like you are just attacking mine… would I be overstepping my bounds if I were to make some blanket statement like “Liberals in 2011 just support whatever mediamatters & the DNC tell them!” :p

blockchords said:
I missed your influences. It seems like you are just attacking mine… would I be overstepping my bounds if I were to make some blanket statement like “Liberals in 2011 just support whatever mediamatters & the DNC tell them!” :p

You’d be wrong. I don’t really care what your bounds are. Nor do I care who your personal influences are, nor did I attack your influences. And I’m not a liberal, so I won’t claim to speak for liberals. I skew more libertarian than either of the 2 parties, but ultimately I skew towards pragmatism, as opposed to ideology.

Reagan had a lot of pithy quotes, which, while entertaining, are either mostly or entirely irrelevant to governing.

Believe me, I wish conservatism today was based on the people you mentioned. But the modern iteration of the GOP is not the party of William F. Buckley, or Barry Goldwater. It’s the party of the “Ground Zero mosque”, Terri Schiavo, Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh and Fox News. And it’s awful for the country.

Publius219 said:
Believe me, I wish conservatism today was based on the people you mentioned. But the modern iteration of the GOP is not the party of William F. Buckley, or Barry Goldwater. It’s the party of the “Ground Zero mosque”, Terri Schiavo, Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh and Fox News. And it’s awful for the country.

Lol, you think you’re so smart & yet here you are have removed yourself from the political process in the greatest free society in history. News flash! We’re trying to take back the republican party! I’ll rip on the literal Repullican Party all the time b/c they are a bunch of jerks and loser! But you know what? Establishment republicans are vulnerable in the primaries.

Big surprise! A libertarian thats a jerk! Just like every other one! It must feel pretty good coming online & flaming conservatives while insulating yourself from criticism by rejecting the whole process. Hey I don’t think Sarah Palin & Rush Limbaugh were for the Ground Zero Mosque genius! Why don’t you settle down & learn about conservatism?

Publius219 said:
It’s the party of the “Ground Zero mosque”, Terri Schiavo, Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh and Fox News. And it’s awful for the country.

Taking another look it seems like you are coming out in support of the Ground Zero Mosque… well I guess at least your consistent with your kook libertarianism, but jeez!

Publius219 said:
I skew more libertarian than either of the 2 parties, but ultimately I skew towards pragmatism, as opposed to ideology.

Wishing for someone to die is not intelligent practice. Nor is it libertarian.

blockchords said:
Big surprise! A libertarian thats a jerk! Just like every other one! It must feel pretty good coming online & flaming conservatives while insulating yourself from criticism by rejecting the whole process. Hey I don’t think Sarah Palin & Rush Limbaugh were for the Ground Zero Mosque genius! Why don’t you settle down & learn about conservatism?

Publius is a jerk but he is no libertarian.

blockchords said:
Lol, you think you’re so smart & yet here you are have removed yourself from the political process in the greatest free society in history. News flash! We’re trying to take back the republican party! I’ll rip on the literal Repullican Party all the time b/c they are a bunch of jerks and loser! But you know what? Establishment republicans are vulnerable in the primaries.

Big surprise! A libertarian thats a jerk! Just like every other one! It must feel pretty good coming online & flaming conservatives while insulating yourself from criticism by rejecting the whole process. Hey I don’t think Sarah Palin & Rush Limbaugh were for the Ground Zero Mosque genius! Why don’t you settle down & learn about conservatism?

I didn’t say I removed myself from the political process. I’m actually quite involved in the political process. I just don’t find the need to blindly cheer for Team Blue or Team Red like they’re football teams.

And yes, I support the 1st amendment, including the freedom to build a mosque/community center at the old Burlington coat factory a couple blocks from Ground Zero. That 1st amendment sure is kooky, I know.

illusive man said:
Wishing for someone to die is not intelligent practice. Nor is it libertarian.

Publius219 said:
Rush is right; the debate sucked. But unfortunately, the fact that he saw it and is able to comment on it means he’s still alive.

Publius219 said:
Hoping Rush Limbaugh dies is the only patriotic position on Rush Limbaugh. Why do you hate America with such intensity to not hope that Rush Limbaugh dies?

http://www.mediaite.com/online/rush-limbaugh-critiques-the-republican-debate-especially-cnns-john-king/comment-page-1/#comments

illusive man said:
Publius is a jerk but he is no libertarian.

Please, kind sir, enlighten me as to my own political beliefs. I’m sure that you, semi-literate anonymous internet stranger, would know better than I would.

Publius219 said:
And yes, I support the 1st amendment, including the freedom to build a mosque/community center at the old Burlington coat factory a couple blocks from Ground Zero. That 1st amendment sure is kooky, I know.

Publius219 said:
I skew more libertarian than either of the 2 parties, but ultimately I skew towards pragmatism, as opposed to ideology.

Building a mosque by ground zero isn’t exactly what I would call “pragmatic”. They could build a mosque anywhere. Conservatism is pragmatic. Check Reagan’s 77 CPAC speech.

Publius219 said:
I’m sure that you, semi-literate anonymous internet stranger, would know better than I would.

Lol you just feel compelled to flame people don’t you? I guess thats the way brilliant, non partisan people who see all the sides behave

blockchords said:
I’ll defend Reagan any day of the week. After he got elected he did make some compromises to advance his agenda. Believe it or not that is not antithetical to conservatism. In his presidency he set a foundation for slowing the growth of government that was abandoned by his republican successors, which makes him distinctly not a RINO. Surely his words & actions are a major influence on conservatism today.

Well please ‘defend’ the fact that before Ronald Reagan and trickle down the United States was the worlds largest lendor nation AND the worlds largest exporter of manufactured goods. After Ronald Reagan we became the worlds largest debtor nation AND the worlds largest importer of manufactured goods.

How do you feel Publius, about the first amendment in the context of the Citizen’s United case?

blockchords said:
http://www.mediaite.com/online/rush-limbaugh-critiques-the-republican-debate-especially-cnns-john-king/comment-page-1/#comments

You act as though I in some way denied that I want Rush Limbaugh to die. I’ll explain it again, as simply and slowly as I can.

Rush Limbaugh has made his career by distorting political positions, oversimplifications, and peddling outright falsehoods. Because of his influence, and because of the gullibility/simplicity of his core audience, this has a non-negligible impact on public policy, nearly always to its detriment. Because of US strength in the world, these worse public policy outcomes end up effecting far more people than just those within our country’s borders. Because there’s no reason to believe that Rush will have some sort of epiphany and start presenting opposing arguments with fairness or using facts/logic/reason instead of appeals to emotion when making his points, I firmly believe that the world would be a better place if Rush were off the air. Because of his massive ratings, this is unlikely to occur barring his incapacitation or death. Thus, I feel the world would be a better place if Rush Limbaugh were dead.

WutzUpWithThat said:
Well please ‘defend’ the fact that before Ronald Reagan and trickle down the United States was the worlds largest lendor nation AND the worlds largest exporter of manufactured goods. After Ronald Reagan we became the worlds largest debtor nation AND the worlds largest importer of manufactured goods.

Massive spending on social programs & entitlements that Reagan fought. Plz! You wanna make the case that trickle down economics is responsible for $14.2 trillion in debt? Hardly.

Let me ask you this, how do we become the largest debtor nation w/o massive spending?

Publius219 said:
Please, kind sir, enlighten me as to my own political beliefs. I’m sure that you, semi-literate anonymous internet stranger, would know better than I would.

What is a Libertarian?
Let’s start with Webster’s definition:

libertarian: A person who upholds the principles of individual liberty especially of thought and action.
Libertarian: a member of a political party advocating libertarian principles.

Libertarians believe in, and pursue, personal freedom while maintaining personal responsibility. The Libertarian Party itself serves a much larger pro-liberty community with the specific mission of electing Libertarians to public office.

Libertarians strongly oppose any government interfering in their personal, family and business decisions. Essentially, we believe all Americans should be free to live their lives and pursue their interests as they see fit as long as they do no harm to another.

In a nutshell, we are advocates for a smaller government, lower taxes and more freedom.
http://www.lp.org/faq

Like I said Publius, you are no libertarian.

Publius219 said:
You act as though I in some way denied that I want Rush Limbaugh to die. I’ll explain it again, as simply and slowly as I can.

I was just filling in everyone on this thread who was unaware of the comments illusive man was referring to. Like he said they are very unlibertarian-like

illusive man said:
Like I said Publius, you are no libertarian.

Of course, you neglect that I never claimed to be an outright pure libertarian. I said only I skew more libertarian than either of the two major parties, because unlike the two major parties, libertarian principles are generally not hypocritical.

Puby219 said:
That’s a great distortion.

No, it’s fact.

Liberals will be so envious over this; nice one Rush!

Jaurez said:
My clear thinking friends on the right, keep in mind when responding to puby that he thinks it’s ok to sext 17 yr old girls. Food for thought.

I’m just curious as to why you guys even bother responding to him. He is the worst kind of troll there is, he refuses to stake out a position preventing him from having to defend, and instead chooses to attack others for theirs.

LoyalOpposition said:
I’m just curious as to why you guys even bother responding to him. He is the worst kind of troll there is, he refuses to stake out a position preventing him from having to defend, and instead chooses to attack others for theirs.

Yeah I’m thinking the thing. Point taken. It seems like a bunch of my posts have been deleted anyways, so even doubly so whats the point? I wasn’t flaming anyone or using bad language, so I don’t know why. Thumb down mediaite! Thumb down

Love Limbaugh, sweet tea? Not so much. Sell me something else.
http://libertarians4freedom.blogspot.com/

LOGICandREASON said:
Liberals will be so envious over this; nice one Rush!

Yeah he can really soak the money out of your conservatives, even though you’re complaining about debt.

Can’t they just sell Limbaugh’s semen so we can have Limbaugh babies and have the perfect conservative society? I’ve already got my Stephen Colbert formula 401, If I could combine that with Rush’s seed perhaps I can create the ultimate drug-fueled irrational neo-conservative!

Sweet Iced Tea makes perfect sense. You know how hot it gets in the DR in the summer? Sweet Tea and a side order of Viagra please!

If Limbaugh could actually manage to get up on a horse then that package would be in no way ironic.

He has figured out exactly what he core audience needs: more quickly delivered empty calories. I can’t see how this fails.

What no Oxycontin flavor?

Great. Now Limbaugh’s “followers” can drink his bull****, in addition to listening to it. BOO-YA

McDonald’s has the best sweet tea. Rush doesn’t stand a chance.

Way to ostracize your northern fan base, Rush. Sweet tea is a southern thing..c’mon, dood.

The Voice of Reason said:
McDonald’s has the best sweet tea.

Negative, Ghostrider…the best sweet tea belongs to Chick Fil A.

Okay. “John Boy & Billy” sell their sweet tea at Food Lion and I though I’m a couple of hundred miles from the closest Food Lion, I believe it only comes in gallon jugs. I’m also under the impression that it does well because they recently introduced a new flavor.

While Limbaugh is offering “free shipping” on a case of $2, 16 oz bottles.

Based on that info, one has to assume that he’s mostly going for the collectibles market and the 100+ case button, though it may not be used that often could actually prove to be a subliminal tool. I know that when I saw it, I immediately thought of the upcoming election and the possibility of bottles being distributed as souvenirs at Tea Party rallies, plus the “not for resale” shouldn’t cover donor reward packets.

IOW: I think he’ll probably make a quick mint off of the deal, especially considering that the product costs little to launch, there’s not really any marketing costs and every bottle is priced at profit.

Good show.

Even the punny name is too cloying.

I listen on a one-hour delayed station and I got in my order.

Go Rush Go !

I thought it was Flavor Aid? Does it come with a year long supply of Viagra?

This really is the Hotel California!

On a dark desert highway, cool wind in my hair
Warm smell of colitas rising up through the air
Up ahead in the distance I saw a shimmering light
My head grew heavy and my sight grew dim
I had to stop for the night

There she stood in the doorway, I heard the mission bell
Then I was thinking to myself this could be Heaven or this could be Hell
Then she lit up a candle and she showed me the way
There were voices down the corridor I thought I heard them say

“Welcome to the Hotel Mediaite
Such a lovely place
Such a lovely face
Plenty of room at the Hotel Mediaite
Any time of year
You can find it here”

Her mind is Tiffany twisted, she got the Mercedes Benz
She got a lot of pretty, pretty boys that she calls friends
How they dance in the courtyard, sweet summer sweat
Some dance to remember, some dance to forget

So I called up the captain, “Please bring me my wine”
He said, “We haven’t had that spirit here since 1969″
And still those voices are calling from far away
Wake you up in the middle of the night just to hear them say

“Welcome to the Hotel Mediate
Such a lovely place
(Such a lovely place)
Such a lovely face
They’re living it up at the Hotel Mediaite
What a nice surprise
(What a nice surprise)
Bring your alibis”

Mirrors on the ceiling, the pink champagne on ice
And she said, “We are all just prisoners here of our own device”
And in the master’s chambers they gathered for the feast
They stab it with their steely knives but they just can’t kill the beast

Last thing I remember I was running for the door
I had to find the passage back to the place I was before
“Relax,” said the night man, “We are programmed to receive
You can check out any time you like but you can never leave”

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On a dark desert highway, cool wind in my hair
Warm smell of colitas rising up through the air
Up ahead in the distance I saw a shimmering light
My head grew heavy and my sight grew dim
I had to stop for the night

There she stood in the doorway, I heard the mission bell
Then I was thinking to myself this could be Heaven or this could be Hell
Then she lit up a candle and she showed me the way
There were voices down the corridor I thought I heard them say

“Welcome to the Hotel Mediaite
Such a lovely place
Such a lovely face
Plenty of room at the Hotel Mediaite
Any time of year
You can find it here”

Her mind is Tiffany twisted, she got the Mercedes Benz
She got a lot of pretty, pretty boys that she calls friends
How they dance in the courtyard, sweet summer sweat
Some dance to remember, some dance to forget

So I called up the captain, “Please bring me my wine”
He said, “We haven’t had that spirit here since 1969″
And still those voices are calling from far away
Wake you up in the middle of the night just to hear them say

“Welcome to the Hotel Mediate
Such a lovely place
(Such a lovely place)
Such a lovely face
They’re living it up at the Hotel Mediaite
What a nice surprise
(What a nice surprise)
Bring your alibis”

Mirrors on the ceiling, the pink champagne on ice
And she said, “We are all just prisoners here of our own device”
And in the master’s chambers they gathered for the feast
They stab it with their steely knives but they just can’t kill the beast

Last thing I remember I was running for the door
I had to find the passage back to the place I was before
“Relax,” said the night man, “We are programmed to receive
You can check out any time you like but you can never leave”

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THE INTERNATIONALE

Stand up, all victims of oppression
For the tyrants fear your might
Don’t cling so hard to your possessions
For you have nothing, if you have no rights
Let racist ignorance be ended
For respect makes the empires fall
Freedom is merely privilege extended
Unless enjoyed by one and all

Chorus:
So come brothers and sisters
For the struggle carries on
The internationale
Unites the world in song
So comrades come rally
For this is the time and place
The international ideal
Unites the human race

Let no one build walls to divide us
Walls of hatred nor walls of stone
Come greet the dawn and stand beside us
We’ll live together or we’ll die alone
In our world poisoned by exploitation
Those who have taken, now they must give
And end the vanity of nations
We’ve but one earth on which to live

And so begins the final drama
In the streets and in the fields
We stand unbowed before their armour
We defy their guns and shields
When we fight, provoked by their aggression
Let us be inspired by like and love
For though they offer us concessions
Change will not come from above

Words: billy bragg music: pierre degeyter

Publius219 said:
I feel the world would be a better place if Rush Limbaugh were dead.

Morbid obesity and drug abuse have severe, long-term effects on the body.

It won’t be long for the EIB (egocentric impotent blimp).

Hugo Daun said:
Morbid obesity and drug abuse have severe, long-term effects on the body.

It won’t be long for the EIB (egocentric impotent blimp).

You appear to be knowledgable about these afflictions. Is that what the Dr. said?

This Tea idea will go the same way as Limbaugh’s ugly ass neckties.
It will end up in the same trash can as the TeaBaggers.

Rush,
I wish you lots of luck with your new tea line. I stuck my neck out and created my tea line called http://www.foundingfatherstea.org Business hasn’t been good. I used some of what was left of my savings hoping the Tea Party would embrace the teas, I sell it wholesale and retail so that groups and organizations; tea shops and all shops could make a profit selling my fine Ceylon teas and I love my logo. The economy just sucks. Everything you touch turns to gold so I’m sure you will surpass your goals and objectives. Please pray for my little company because I really put my heart into it.

Since I can’t find any Tea I like locally, I tried it. Ordered it on Tuesday. It came Wednesday.

It is really really good.  don’t know if I can afford it on a regular basis. But I will order it again

Oh Please!  Carter left office with a top tax rate of 70%.  If you were married filing joint you paid taxes starting at 10K.  When Reagan left office the top rate was at 50% and a married family did’nt pay taxes until 35K.  You can pull the tax charts off gov.org.  Carter taxed the poor beyond belief.  I don’t know where you got your info from that Reagan raised taxes 11 times…probably from the left wing media spinners.

Forget your polictics a sec. people need to check out the ‘acesulfame k’ sweetner that this tea uses in the diet side.  it is linked to increased breast tumors in mice studies and possible lung tumors. more study is needed.

Hi, I ordered my tea on fri and I called back the same day to tell them I ordered reg tea instead of the
raspberry & they wouldn’t let me change the order. This isn’t fair & I ordered two cases. Good luck if you
have to change your order you can’t. I found this very strange.

You are bad for the country. Don’t vote please. Thanks,
  Check please you BIG DUMMY.

Was ” Mr. Gorbachav, tear down this wall” a pithy qoute? hmmmmmmmmm.

Obviously a product of public/government school education.

You win The Internets!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH!

Publius219,  Do you have something to say or do you wish to banter insults and half truths all day long?  You strike out like a scalded cat every time your points are challenge and your points leave much to be desired.  As for your “Pragmatism” yours would put a potential Al Qaeda recruitment center near Ground zero…so much for pragmatism.

sounds like you miss spelled Obama, or Barry as it was in far east and on his foriegn student aid request.

Only question I have on his tea and how it Helps support America is where were the tea leaves grown because according to wikiepdia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea#Economics in 2008 about 30% of tea leaves produced where in china and the US only produces .5% or less. So by that information he is really helping support china’s economic growth.

Remarkable taste, but is 11 in a case or 12?  We were shorted one bottle.  I think someone in shipping was thristy???  I hope he was on our side, and a conservative, but they don’t steal, do they?  

Sounds like you do not like the truth, it hurts the most who are in denial.

You should be thankful for Rush and his intelligence, he is a great reason why America is not Communist. You sound like you deserve entitlements. People with that mindset should move to Russia or another socialist government run country. Talk to me when China has you and your kids working in the rice fields asshole.