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Chris Wallace On TSA Screening Procedures: ‘There Are Obviously People Who Are Greater Threats’

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On Fox News Sunday today, Chris Wallace suggested to former Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff that airport screenings should be less universal and more targeted because “there are obviously people who are greater threats and people who are lesser threats.”

Wallace first asked how much longer Americans should expect strict security measures and body scans at airports. Chertoff suggested that as the technology continues to develop, “it’s likely to make that less necessary over time.” He also suggested the TSA would engage in “intelligence-based screening,” where they would base screening procedures “based on what we know about people.” However, despite whatever may be rolled back in the future, Chertoff doubted that we would ever return to the days where you could enter an airport without having to go through long lines of security.

Then Wallace turned to the controversial subject of profiling. He did not speak in specific terms about who should or should not be profiled, but he argued that screening absolutely everyone is a waste of time.

My mother’s getting screened. I’m getting screened. The screener says, ‘Oh, hi, Mr. Wallace,’ and then proceeds to screen me. Not because I’m on TV, but there are obviously people who are greater threats and people who are lesser threats. Is it inconceivable? We know who at least our enemies are, or at least the vast majority of our enemies.

Chertoff disputed that last part, saying “There’s a tendency to believe [terrorists] all look a certain way.” He cited several homegrown terrorists as evidence of his point. And as for universal screening procedures, while Chertoff still believes it can be modified on a more intelligence-based screening system, “the whole population, unfortunately, is part of this battle.”

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  • Anonymous

    Chris Wallace is obviously a threat.

  • Anonymous

    Under orders from Big Sis, BHO and Eric Holder, the TSA approach is to assume the 70 year old white male with a cane or a 64 year old black Grandmother traveling with her 3 young grand children are likely terrorists.
    But a Muslim male, from Yemen, he gets an escort.
    The liberal governing class just has no clue how badly they have alienated the rest of the country. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dronetek-Bulk-Vanderhuge/100000918732763 Dronetek Bulk Vanderhuge

    “He cited several homegrown terrorists as evidence of his point.”

    How many non-Muslim plane hijackings have there been?

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/QXHUG6B22T6CKA3CRQ4EG3UOCM Laurence

    The local Fox broadcast TV station in Boston did not air “Fox News Sunday” and the Faux Right-wing Propaganda Network is committed to 9/11 coverage too.  I may have to see if it is run on the FWRPN overnight and record the show.  Incidentally, I’m suffering from Sunday-morning-talking-heads withdrawal: no MTP or FTN this morning either.  CNN didn’t even have “Reliable  Sorcerors” on as well.  First, Labor Day, now 9/11 obserbvances…oh well, Stephanie Miller will be baclk Monday and Bill Maher on Friday.

  • Anonymous

    Being politically correct is the reason no one spoke up about the Fort Hood terrorist .

    It’s now too late to screen this guy:

    From Audacity of Hope:

    “I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”

  • Anonymous

    Quite a few

    * United States November 24, 1968: Luis Armando Pena Soltren, Jose
    Rafael Rios Cruz and Miguel Castro coerced the pilot of Pan American
    Flight 281 out of New York’s John F. Kennedy Airport on a scheduled
    route to Puerto Rico to divert to Havana, Cuba.[1][2] Passengers were
    evacuated from Cuba by a U.S. State Department aircraft. There were no
    fatalities.

    * BrazilCuba October 8, 1969: a Cruzeiro do Sul
    Sud Aviation SE-210 Caravelle VI R en route from Belém to Manaus was
    hijacked by 4 persons who demanded to be flown to Cuba. The hijack
    lasted less than a day and there were no victims.

    *
    BrazilCuba November 12, 1969: a Cruzeiro do Sul NAMC YS-11/11A en route
    from Manaus to Belém was hijacked by a person who demanded to be flown
    to Cuba. There were no victims.

    * United States March 17, 1970: Eastern Air Lines Shuttle Flight 1320,
    carrying passengers from Newark to Boston was hijacked around 7:30 P.M.
    by John J. Divivo who was armed with a .38 caliber revolver. Captain
    Robert Wilbur Jr., 35, a former Air Force pilot who had only been
    promoted to captain six months prior, was shot in his arm by the
    suicidal hijacker.

    * United States November 24, 1971: A man who became known as D. B.
    Cooper hijacked Northwest Orient flight 305, a Boeing 727-100 aircraft
    flying from Portland, OR, to Seattle, WA, received US$200,000 in ransom,
    and parachuted from the plane. The actual name of the hijacker remains
    unknown. The hijacker revealed what appeared to be a bomb to a flight
    attendant and demanded the ransom and parachutes. The flight landed in
    Seattle, and FBI agents provided the ransom money and parachutes. Cooper
    then released all passengers and one flight attendant. After refueling,
    the aircraft took off again and flew toward Reno, NV. Cooper opened the
    aft stairs and jumped from the plane with a parachute during a heavy
    rainstorm. The aircraft was forced to land with the aft stairs deployed.
    The FBI believes Cooper most likely did not survive, but the case
    remains unsolved.[3][4][5]

    * United States January 12, 1972:
    Braniff Flight 38, a Boeing 727, was hijacked as it departed Houston,
    Texas bound for Dallas, Texas. The lone armed hijacker, Billy Gene
    Hurst, Jr., allowed all 94 passengers to deplane after landing at Dallas
    Love Field but continued to hold the 7 crewmembers hostage, demanding
    to fly to South America and asking for US $2 million, parachutes, and
    jungle survival gear, amongst other items. After a 6-hour standoff, the
    entire crew secretly fled while Hurst was distracted examining the
    contents of a package delivered by Dallas police. Police officers
    stormed the craft shortly afterwards and arrested Hurst without serious
    incident.[6][7]

    * United States January 28, 1972: TWA Flight
    2, Los Angeles to New York, was hijacked by con man and bank robber
    Garrett Trapnell while over Chicago. Trapnell demanded $306,800 in cash
    (to recoup the loss of a recent court case), the release of Angela Davis
    (as well as that of a friend of his who was also imprisoned), and
    clemency from President Richard Nixon. The FBI was able to retake the
    aircraft during a crew switch at Kennedy Airport; Trapnell was shot and
    wounded, no one else was hurt. Trapnell’s hijacking came after a string
    of domestic incidents and resulted in an overhaul of flight procedures
    by the Nixon Administration, procedures that remained in place until the
    September 11, 2001 hijackings.

    * SwedenSpain April 24, 1973:
    SAS DC 9 – Gunder Viking – with registration number LN-RLO on route
    from Torslanda, Gothenburg, Sweden, to Stockholm, Sweden, was hijacked
    five minutes after take off by 3 armed Croatian terrorists connected to
    Ustasja. The plane was ordered to land at Bulltofta airport, Malmö,
    Sweden. 86 passengers and 4 crew members were held hostage until the
    next morning when the hostage were released in exchange for 500 000
    Swedish Kronor and seven Croatian terrorists imprisoned in Sweden. The
    last passenger could leave the plane unharmed after 16 hours. The plane
    and crew was then ordered to fly to Madrid, Spain, where the hijackers
    later were to be put on trial.

    * Republic of Ireland 1981: An Aer Lingus flight from Dublin to London
    was hijacked and diverted to Le Touquet in France by a man demanding
    that the Pope release the third secret of Fatima. While authorities
    negotiated with the hijacker by radio in the cockpit, French special
    forces entered the rear of the aircraft and overpowered him.

    * United States 1994: FedEx Flight 705 hijacked by disgruntled employee
    Auburn Calloway as it left Memphis, Tennessee, with the intention of
    using it as a cruise missile against FedEx HQ. He was subdued by the
    flight crew before an emergency landing back at Memphis.

    * Jamaica 2009: CanJet Flight 918, a Boeing 737-800 preparing to depart
    from the Sangster International Airport in Montego Bay, Jamaica to Cuba
    was hijacked by a gunman who forced his way through airport security
    onto the plane. His main motive was a demand to the crew to fly him to
    Cuba. Most of the passengers on the plane gave him money to buy their
    freedom. For the rest of the night, negotiations took place as 6 crew
    members were held hostage in the flight for several hours. Quick
    responses from the police force allowed them to disarm the hijacker and
    arrest him. There were no casualties.

    * Mexico 2009:
    AeroMéxico Flight 576, a Boeing 737-800 flying from Cancún to Mexico
    City was hijacked by José Marc Flores Pereira, a Bolivian citizen
    claiming he had a bomb and demanding to speak to Mexican president
    Felipe Calderón. The plane landed at Mexico City International Airport
    where it then taxied to a remote stand where the passengers and crew
    were later released. Mexican officials stormed the plane where 5 men
    were taken into custody with only 1 being held. There were no
    casualties.

    That’s just a few.You should try getting informed.

  • Anonymous

    ‘There Are Obviously People Who Are Greater Threats’

    Irrational teabaggers?

  • Anonymous

    You are talking about homosexuals (which are predominantly liberal) right?

  • Darkchocolate70

    Obviously more dangerous and obvious as to whom they are: their names regularly beginning with Muhammed or Achmed or along those lines…

  • Darkchocolate70

    Obviously it’s the Amish he is talking about.

  • Darkchocolate70

    The writer you responded to is talking about hijackings where the intent was to use the jet as a flying bomb…OBVIOUSLY.    Of course that would only be obvious to anyone with half a clue and since you have just between no clue and a quarter of a clue… you are excused.

  • Anonymous

    He’s right and these people are roaming around reading poetry at ceremonies when they should be behind bars being tried at the Hague

  • Darkchocolate70

    Obama?  Biden?  Holder?

    Yes.  All 3 are criminals.

  • Anonymous

    Are you psychic?That’s your interpretation,OBVIOUSLY.

    “How many non-Muslim plane hijackings have there been? ”

    Seems pretty straight forward even for one with half a brain.

  • Valkyrie101

    A perfectly foolish thing for Wallace to say on 911, with two, three, possibly four on going wars. He should instead be reporting how great a job our post 911 security people have done.

  • Darkchocolate70

    We need to start doing deep backgrounds on people with the last name of Schwartz and stop concentrating on those with names like Muhammed Muhammed…

    Only then will America be safer………….

  • Dr

    aww the white male feels like he’s a victim how cute
    you idiot everyone gets screened arabs even more so

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    “A perfectly foolish thing for Wallace to say on 911, with two, three, possibly four on going wars.”
    Who are those wars with? 

  • Anonymous

    Uh, no.I was talking about you.

    You know the “2nd amendment remedies” type.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    Profiling doesn’t have to be based on race or religion. 

  • Ralph

    No one ever asks my question…

    If men do not search women because they are presumed heterosexuals and it is wrong to allow heterosexual men to grope females, then are gay and lesbian TSA screeners disallowed from searching travelers who are their same sex?

    You know a guy can say all week long that the sight of a naked female won’t sexually interest him, but the women still won’t let him use their shower room.  By the same logic, gays and lesbians who say they won’t get turned on by handling the bodies of other males and females respectively should not be given any credibility.  And it is wrong to place any employee in a situation where his or her sexual mores can be legitimately questioned.

  • Valkyrie101

    Assuming we are still mopping up in Iraq, Afganistan, Libya, (we probably have our toes in at least a couple other countries, too), and the war on terror, in general, which includes Al Qaeda, and hundreds of other groups.

  • Valkyrie101

    Criminally good looking is all you will get.

  • Valkyrie101

    He probably meant tea party radicals.

  • Valkyrie101

    Not to mention Ralph, Barney, and Nutmeg.

  • Anonymous

    Yep. It’s those dang tea partiers’ fault we get molested at the airport.

    Intelligent post, comrade.

    Congratulations.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, listening to those two will make you very, very stupid.

    Keep it up.

  • Anonymous

    That was a real impressive list, there, Leroy.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, that’s the problem.

  • Anonymous

    Paul Krugman should get screened walking into a grocery store.

    Just for being an A-hole.

    His Blog post this morning was demented.

  • Anonymous

    What do all those have in common, Sherlock?

  • Anonymous

    Biden and Stedman – Good looking?

    Maybe on a deserted island.

  • Anonymous

    Ya, I heard one threatened a reporter the other day and………Oh wait.

    That was a labor union goon.

    Never mind.

  • Ronaldsingleterry

    Your quote is not in “Audacity of Hope.”   

    Actual quote from “The Audacity of Hope” [pg. 261]: ”Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”

  • Anon

    I agree. No one should get screened.

  • Anonymous

    Except people who fit a terrorist profile. I agree.

  • insideguy

     You know I fly a lot and im not sure what the big deal is. Maybe I don’t think its a big deal for my safety. We have been kept pretty safe for 10 years .

  • Anonymous

    Hmmmmmm….’OBVIOUSLY’…..you must be reading between the lines, I actually thought that they were specific in post, but maybe thats just me!?

  • Anonymous

    Norwegians?

  • Anonymous

    LOL….now, you know that they were ‘para-personal-thinking’ and had to delete or either simply ‘short quote’….so that they could get their point across!?

  • Herb

    did you listen to the interview? the guy clearly says there is NO profile…there are white people for example who join the cause of extremists and you don’t want to wait for an attack by someone who doesnt look arab or muslim before you start screening them…

    BUT i do agree that we are slowly losing our freedom by all these invasive “security measures”
    and the guy said it will be easier if ppl gave up more information…it is just going to get more intrusive

  • Anonymous

    The only TSA screening procedure that is needed is a simple sniff test, not all that sophisticated not to mention expensive equipment, to know who needs a trip to the back room to be water boarded. 

  • Anonymous

    People like Wallechinsky are the problem. The people that were identified to be the terrorists on 911 are not the typical long beard radical looking people would expect. Idiots like Wallechinsky put people more in danger than they would normally be. Wasting recourse in this environment is unacceptable and Wallechinsky ought to be embarrassed. 

  • Anonymous

    Thanks,want me post some more?

  • Valkyrie101

    All places where bad guys are hiding out?

  • Valkyrie101

    Well come on, he’s a dinosaur, but in his youth he was quite a ladies man.

  • Valkyrie101

    Shouting is not why the tea party radical is feared.

  • Anonymous

    Too complex for the baggers to understand.

  • cdnhawk

    Thanks for entertaining me everyday with your juvenile idiotic rants BMG.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Fisher/100002384496916 Bill Fisher

    In
    less than a year TSA has managed to convince millions of Americans that it is
    acceptable to digitally strip search and fondle the privates of their children
    as a condition of air travel. No one would have believed this last year and yet
    here we are, submitting our bodies to the hands of a government clerk because
    spineless politicians have been bullied into allowing this abuse by power
    hungry bureaucrats only interested in furthering their own fortunes.
    No
    wonder TSA complaints are up 40% over last year. Under Pistole’s perverse
    policies, TSA has become the most despised agency in Government and he has
    proven incompetent and clearly over-matched. This version of security is
    unacceptable and those responsible must be held accountable.

    TSA Crimes & Abuses

    http://www.travelunderground.org/index.php?threads/master-lists-of-tsa-abuses-crimes.317/

  • Anonymous

    We don’t need any more outrageously costly technology to develop before we understand we don’t need to do full body scans of grandma or her 4 year old granddaughter.  We just need to kick PC idolatry to the curb and be real people once more, understanding that, until the threat is past, any upset that may cause in some circles comes justified – and that the overwrought consideration for the feelings of all comers, some of whom indeed want to kill you and destroy that which you cherish, is not the epitome of a developed society – it’s the definition of a self-destructive one.

  • Sharpo

    except there is NO SUCH THING AS A TERRORIST PROFILE ANYMORE

    welcome to 2011, dumba$$

  • Sharpo

    dronetek: why did a white christian kill a bunch of people in norway?

  • Sharpo

    Far right wing stupid people are really stupid. they won’t admit that the TSA could disappear tomorrow.. the private airlines would still mandate that everyone go through the scanners in order to go on their property

    instead of government tsa agents.. you’d get security guards with guns for 10$ an hour

    Is that any better?

    far right wing stupid people are dumber than rocks.

  • http://www.davidjkramer.co.cc// DavidKramer

    Don’t you know eay? We Norvegians are crafty types.

  • http://www.davidjkramer.co.cc// DavidKramer

    Hmmm, I guess TSA being integrated into those train and bus stations now are just happenstance. Right? How bout going into a mall, is that okay to be fondled? How bout a grocery store? How bout a gas station? Lots of explosive material there.

    Can you say, bahhhhhhhh?

  • Anonymous

    “stupid people are stupid?”  another Disqus enabled ‘new face of Mediaite.’

    Enter the progressive, standing up for the cause of their all invasive government’s right to feel up our kids.  And grandmothers.  And uncles.  And rather good looking oral hygienist.  And their seedy looking brothers.  And his friends.  And their friends.  And their friends associates.  And the shared social nemeses of their friends associates.  And all their lawnboys.  And the fast food cashiers which serve those lawnboys.  And the advertising executive employed by the company which hired the fast food cashiers.  And his unemployed former co-worker.  And those hundreds of people who stood in an unemployment line alongside that former executive to receive checks – that being the fastest way known to Nancy Pelosi to create jobs.  And their local state representative (but not Nancy Pelosi).  And his chauffeur.  And that chauffeur’s bus driver.  And that bus driver’s Around-The-Corner-Deli counter check out girl.  And her father’s former 2nd wife’s nephew’s kids.  But not those test agents who mangaged to slip guns through the various system checks.

    Won’t someone please think about the children of the state representative’s chauffeur’s bus driver’s deli clerk’s father’s ex-wife’s (but not the deli clerk’s birth mother) nephew?

  • ceeza

    i agree the screening doesn’t bother me either…waiting in lines do suck ..but I generally get more anxiety when I have to check a bag and hope it arrives at my destination…

  • JP

    Some of you act like it’s a big F’in deal if you get screened.  Get over it and manage it!

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    and what do all those bad guys have in common?

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    oscar_leroy 10 hours ago in reply to Valkyrie101
    Too complex for the baggers to understand.

    Carpet baggers? Grocery baggers?

  • HawkCW4

    You dont fly much do you?

  • HawkCW4

    So Mr Informed,  how many Cuban Trade Centers were flown into by those planes.  Maybe that one in Mexico, or what.   yes he said hyjacking but we are talking about Terrorists hyjacking planes to fly into buildings.  What the hell are you talking about?

  • HawkCW4

    Man, he gave you a clue and you still dont have one.   How really idiotic are you?

  • HawkCW4

    Maybe not but would be one hell of a start, doncha think?   When I used to look for rattle snakes I sorta narrowed it down to snakes with rattles on their tails.  Amazing how much more simple my job became.

  • HawkCW4

    You would have just as safe with 1/10th of those TSA guys and all that stupidity.   Get rid of Political Correctness which of course is far from correct,  Fire 90% of all TSA people and you will still be safe.  OR do like me,  never go to an airport.  And Im a pilot.

  • HawkCW4

    I read stuff like yours and I wonder to myself,   Is there any thing dumb enough we could come up with to compare people like you to.  But there isnt.   You are in a class of your own, and dont dispair, there are a few here to join you.  Get rid of Political Correctness and come up  with a bit of common sense.  Get Rid of tons of non useful TSA goons and learn to track those 1/10 of 1 % of American wanabe terrorists with a puter.  Leave Grandma and babies alone.  Remember,  the prize,  the prize being 72 virgins.   Grandma dont need no 72 virgins. 

  • HawkCW4

    Because you like being felt up dont mean everyone else does,  It is a big deal.  Having to empty pockets, take my boots off and all that BS IS a big deal.  And for that I never fly again.  I could fly from Phoenix to Seattle for 42.00 non revenue ticket any time I like.  BUT because of the hoops I have to jump thru being that ticket is one way and non rev means I will always get the full treatment.  A computer would show my profile.   Retired US ARMY.   Too old to need virgins,  and if I did,  3 or 4 would be enough.  AND a few other entrys you dont need to know but definetly show my chance of being mad at anyone on that plane or the ground ( TSA excepted ) to be zero.   So I will spend 300.00 and 23 hours driving time to get there.

  • Anonymous

    Ahh….  Uh-huh.  Another brilliant Rat-Wing analysis.

  • Anonymous

    HLS and the TSA expend all their energies and $ monitoring American citizens, but do not give a damn as who or what comes in illgally across our southern border.  In point of fact Obama and the liberals encourage the illegal activity across our borders.

    Since 1986 when Reagan signed the Simpson Mazolli bilee authorizing citizenship for all illegals in the US and the congress promised to secure the border.  Untold millions of illegal aliens have been encouraged and allowed to waltz across said border with impunity.

    We are told we cannot deport those millions off illegal aliens already here.  To which I say BS, if they came acrtoss one by one for the last 25 years, we can deport them one by one, if it takes 50 years.

  • Anonymous

    My great grandfather’s name was Samad (as is mine), from Syria don’t you know. My parents were born and bred Church of Christ Protestants.
    I turned out atheist. But, I’m really tired of being singled out for the “special” screening, every F’in time.
    It’s really tough to travel when you look like a TV terrorist.
    GFYS

  • Rabi Satan

    Wow, Diane Finestein, Michael Chertoff,Chris Wallace the two other guys at the desk I can’t think of there names but enough Jews to open a new synagogue. Even the author of this piece “Josh Feldman”. Thank goodness we goy have all them Jews to look out for our wellbeing.Coinsidence, I think not.

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