And there goes maddows “berlin wall” crashing down…LOL!

In other news, fans of Ron Paul are beyond nuts.

And rude.

They’re annoying me while I watch CPAC.

Will someone alert maddow when everybody in cairo starts running around blowing bubbles and dancing in the streets?

This isn’t exactly surprising, given Mubarak’s temperament and past actions. It makes sense that he would fight to maintain his position. That said, the night isn’t over. I saw that Richard Engel is reporting that the protesters are marching on the Presidential Palace, so we will see how these demonstrations evolve.

Olby Sucks said:
And there goes maddows “berlin wall” crashing down…LOL!

Jeff, you’re the biggest moron there is. The situation is far from over in Egypt. Do you even watch the news, or do you just read Wiener? BTW: How is CAIR suit going.

… and, he has apparently lost the army and the air force. Only the palace guard remains. Maybe.

I hate to say I told ya so, but I did say dream on he is not going anywhere. The news media just want to create an historical moment, that’s why they made and succeeded in getting people’s attention. He would go when he decide to, not by some artificial revolution. The strategic position of Egypt is too vital to give it up. What would you have the Israelis do? they would be in disarray, so everyone needs time to adjust before he could leave. You just don’t tell someone like him to leave, pathetic.

Olby Sucks said:
And there goes maddows “berlin wall” crashing down…LOL!

Assad, Qaddafi, Saleh, et al. agree with you.

time to leave.

skyfet said:
I hate to say I told ya so, but I did say dream on he is not going anywhere. The news media just want to create an historical moment, that’s why they made and succeeded in getting people’s attention. He would go when he decide to, not by some artificial revolution. The strategic position of Egypt is too vital to give it up. What would you have the Israelis do? they would be in disarray, so everyone needs time to adjust before he could leave. You just don’t tell someone like him to leave, pathetic.

yes let’s continue to support dictators for democracy, cause that has never come to bite us in the ass. Ie: The shah, saddam hussein, Osama bin laden.

@ sky

Sky makes a decent point. Mubaral needs to go simply because he’s lost his people. However pushing him out over night could lead to major instability in the region. I heard an analyst say today that an over-night removal will be dangerous for all. But give Egypt a little time (September) to have a campaign and figure out how to have a fair and equal election, and things will be better for all.

Patience is needed, despite the desire to replace a dictator.

This ain’t gonna be good, boys and girls.

This puts the military in an awkward position. They either have to support Mubarak (either obvoiusly or obstensibly) and crush the crowd or escort the idiot ditator to the door.

Either that, or the crowd makes sure he swings from a lamp post and everyone loses – or they open fire.

Bad choices all around unless Mubarak waves goodbye.

Olby Sucks said:
And there goes maddows “berlin wall” crashing down…LOL!

And that is the best you have? To use this as another lame excuse to insult “the other side.” Well, here is a hint, son. The “other side” in this case is not left or right. It is a brutal dictator that refuses to yield to the will of the people.

However, if it makes you happy to use the continued suffering, oppression and persecution of people as a launchng pad for your pathetic insults, go right ahead, Unlike Egypt, America has free speech, which includes moronics from the likes of you.

Harry Flashman said:
This ain’t gonna be good, boys and girls.

This puts the military in an awkward position. They either have to support Mubarak (either obvoiusly or obstensibly) and crush the crowd or escort the idiot ditator to the door.

Either that, or the crowd makes sure he swings from a lamp post and everyone loses – or they open fire.

Bad choices all around unless Mubarak waves goodbye.

This is only going to get uglier. The protesters are willing to fight and die for freedom. Mubarak seems willing to kill and punish for power. To draw a historical analogy, this was Mubarak’s “let them eat cake,” moment. And we know how that turned out.

Say a prayer and keep a hope for those brave folks in the streets.

Harry Flashman said:
This ain’t gonna be good, boys and girls.

This puts the military in an awkward position. They either have to support Mubarak (either obvoiusly or obstensibly) and crush the crowd or escort the idiot ditator to the door.

Either that, or the crowd makes sure he swings from a lamp post and everyone loses – or they open fire.

Bad choices all around unless Mubarak waves goodbye.

US is in a tough spot too, get tough with a country who’s stood by some very touchy US decisions in the area, or go against a democratic uprising. Rock and a hard place.

The rational, civilized world must not allow the Muslim Brotherhood (where Al Qaeda originated from) to impose their brutal theocratic tragedy on the people of Egypt, Israel and the region.

Here’s the leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, in his own words, on Jews:

“Throughout history Allah has imposed upon the Jews, people who would punish them for their corruption.The last punishment was carried out by Hitler by means of all the things he did to them. Even though they exaggerated this issue, he managed to put them in their place. I will shoot Allah’s enemies, the Jews.”

In response to this, the Obama Administration, whether through ignorance or DESIGN, assures us that the Brotherhood said nice words, and has therefore changed.

Now doesn’t that just bring a warm, fuzzy feeling to the 80% of American Jews who support the Democrats and their policy of appeasement?

Armegeddon anyone?

Ambassador Shourky told Wolf Blitzer that Mubarak has transferred most powers to Sulieman, but he also said that he doesn’t know if Mubarak can take back power from Suleiman at will. I find that impossible to believe. He is the friggin ambassador!

After Suleiman’s speech it really doesn’t matter since his speech only reinforced what Mubarak said. Suleiman and Mubarak: the two-headed transplant.

Keeva said:
Say a prayer and keep a hope for those brave folks in the streets.

Except that those sweethearts have demanded to remove the peace treaty with Israel. How do you think that’s gonna work out?

Question of the day:

How many mushroom clouds will it take for Progressive Democrats to realize that maybe the Muslim Brotherhood was fibbing when they said they’d given up their theocratic jihad?

“keeva,” I wasn’t the one that compared this situation to the Berlin Wall coming down. maddow did. So…

NORBIT Jr. said:
Question of the day:

How many mushroom clouds will it take for Progressive Democrats to realize that maybe the Muslim Brotherhood was fibbing when they said they’d given up their theocratic jihad?

They would IMMEDIATELY scream “Bush did it!”

The transition needs to be slower and not immediate for stability in the region. Obama should never had said NOW; that was stupid on his part. Now he needs to back off and let the transition happen with the necessary preparations for an election in the fall.

skyfet said:
I hate to say I told ya so, but I did say dream on he is not going anywhere. The news media just want to create an historical moment, that’s why they made and succeeded in getting people’s attention. He would go when he decide to, not by some artificial revolution. The strategic position of Egypt is too vital to give it up. What would you have the Israelis do? they would be in disarray, so everyone needs time to adjust before he could leave. You just don’t tell someone like him to leave, pathetic.

I don’t think he will last till Sept for two reasons.

1. Pressure from the US.
2. Pressure from the people. They know if they let up and the media spotlight fades, they will get their heads bashed in by Mubarak and his goons. They have no choice but to keep the pressure for their safety.

I have to agree with you. I don’t like how the media likes jumping ahead of a story. They did the same with the Giffords shooting.

Olby Sucks said:
They would IMMEDIATELY scream “Bush did it!”

…And don’t forget throwing in a few “RACIST!” Smears for good measure. (I think that’s required by all Liberal Democrats in any discuaaion.)

Obama’s Director of National Intelligence James Clapper announced his opinion that the Muslim Brotherhood is a “secular” and peaceful organization right after a senior member publicly admitted their ultimate goal is world wide Sharia Law. May God speedily get these Democrat morons out of Washington.

Davo said:
Obama’s Director of National Intelligence James Clapper announced his opinion that the Muslim Brotherhood is a “secular” and peaceful organization right after a senior member publicly admitted their ultimate goal is world wide Sharia Law. May God speedily get these Democrat morons out of Washington.

I’m still undecided if they’re doing this out of ignorance, naivety, or by design!

What happened today shows how out of the loop the US is on the Egyptian problem with Obama.

Obama was cheering this morning about how great it was going to be with all the changes pointing towards Mubarak quitting. Then we find out he is staying.

This shows that they do not have any effective intelligence in the area except maybe with twitter or watching Al-Jazeera.

Now Obama cant even use the US handouts to Egypt as a threat as the Saudis have said they will bankroll him.

Great Strategy!!!

NORBIT Jr. said:
I’m still undecided if they’re doing this out of ignorance, naivety, or by design!

Either way, they’re dangerous to the citizenry of the US every minute they are in charge our our security.

Another Power hungry dictator..

It is immensely satisfying to see the Obamo regime get kicked in the ASS over this. Review the comments from Obamo himself, Hilly Clinton, Biddles Biden, and Little Boy Gibbs…no consistency anywhere, and lots of comments being ‘walked back.’ A bunch of Leftist inbreds are what we have here, and they deserve the ass-kicking they’re getting.

ChrisNH said:
It is immensely satisfying to see the Obamo regime get kicked in the ASS over this. Review the comments from Obamo himself, Hilly Clinton, Biddles Biden, and Little Boy Gibbs…no consistency anywhere, and lots of comments being ‘walked back.’ A bunch of Leftist inbreds are what we have here, and they deserve the ass-kicking they’re getting.

Very patriotic of you. WWMD? What Would McCain Do – Invade? There are no good options, only degrees of different bad ones.

Obama/Clinton/Biden should have kept their traps shut from the beginning and worked behind the scenes, as any competent world leader would have done. He could have talked to the Saudis through back channels and SHOULD have. Instead, Obama makes this about himself- “I did this, I said that…” Everyone with foreign policy experience has been telling him to shut up, but he won’t take anyone’s advice (unless Soros is giving him instructions through his “special” Blackberry). He has made matters worse and endangered our relationship with Egypt, Israel and the Saudis, no matter what happens next in Egypt.

I never thought I’d see a president more incompetent than Carter, but Obama has exceeded my wildest expectations.

The Real Rabid Kook said:
Jeff, you’re the biggest moron there is. The situation is far from over in Egypt. Do you even watch the news, or do you just read Wiener? BTW: How is CAIR suit going.

Kook, weren’t you just telling “Jeff” what a moron is he is for not knowing that this is a military coup? How’s that working out for ya?

ImNotBlue said:
@ sky

Sky makes a decent point. Mubaral needs to go simply because he’s lost his people. However pushing him out over night could lead to major instability in the region. I heard an analyst say today that an over-night removal will be dangerous for all. But give Egypt a little time (September) to have a campaign and figure out how to have a fair and equal election, and things will be better for all.

Patience is needed, despite the desire to replace a dictator.

At this point he should just hand it all over to Suleiman, though I’m getting from that puddle of mud he dribbled out that this is not possible under the Egyptian constitution. This is going to get exceedingly bloody if something doesn’t break here. Barring that direct transfer, perhaps having the military take over until a reasonable election can be held is the way to go.

On the one hand, I wish the protesters would take yes for an answer. On the other, they’ve got fair reason to not believe a word Mubarak says. What a mess.

Harry Flashman said:
This ain’t gonna be good, boys and girls.

This puts the military in an awkward position. They either have to support Mubarak (either obvoiusly or obstensibly) and crush the crowd or escort the idiot ditator to the door.

Either that, or the crowd makes sure he swings from a lamp post and everyone loses – or they open fire.

Bad choices all around unless Mubarak waves goodbye.

It seems one of the Egyptians biggest enemies are the Leftists who have been organizing pieces of the demonstrations. Mubarak is not perfect, but he brought some stability.

It’s funny how Obama wouldn’t get involved in the people trying to bring some democracy to Iran, but he’s more than willing to screw the Egyptians by allowing the Leftists and Muslim Brotherhood to gain power.

When the protests quieted down, all of a sudden the labor unions came to the rescue. Gee, I wonder who was behind this? (Soros?)

Davo said:
Obama’s Director of National Intelligence James Clapper announced his opinion that the Muslim Brotherhood is a “secular” and peaceful organization right after a senior member publicly admitted their ultimate goal is world wide Sharia Law. May God speedily get these Democrat morons out of Washington.

I saw this and choked. It just shows how wrong the liberals are. The Muslim Brotherhood and the other extreme Islamists will behead the liberal, too.

Bingo.

Pablo said:
At this point he should just hand it all over to Suleiman, though I’m getting from that puddle of mud he dribbled out that this is not possible under the Egyptian constitution. This is going to get exceedingly bloody if something doesn’t break here. Barring that direct transfer, perhaps having the military take over until a reasonable election can be held is the way to go.

On the one hand, I wish the protesters would take yes for an answer. On the other, they’ve got fair reason to not believe a word Mubarak says. What a mess.

It’s not just Mubarak .The Egyptians are being subjected to Alinsky tactics from the Left. They don’t have any mechanisms to deal with it or even to understand what the Leftists are doing to them.

@ Pablo

Very true. It’s a tough situation all around, and the people stomping their feet and saying, “I want it NOW,” without thinking through all the possible outcomes are making a dangerous mistake.

However, in terms of left-right politics, I do find the left’s outrage a Mubarak as a dictator, versus their non-outrage (and even support) for other dictators -Chavez specifically- very hypocritical.

Alz said:
It’s not just Mubarak .The Egyptians are being subjected to Alinsky tactics from the Left. They don’t have any mechanisms to deal with it or even to understand what the Leftists are doing to them.

I doubt that. Not that it’s happening, but that they’re unaware and unable to deal with it. Which is why I’m looking at the military.

ImNotBlue said:
However, in terms of left-right politics, I do find the left’s outrage a Mubarak as a dictator, versus their non-outrage (and even support) for other dictators -Chavez specifically- very hypocritical.

What else is new, right?

Davo said:
Except that those sweethearts have demanded to remove the peace treaty with Israel. How do you think that’s gonna work out?

I think it is up to the Egyptian people, most of whom favor the treaty and just want to be out from under a brutal oppressive dictator. How it works out will be how it works out. We (the US and Israel) need to let them decide their own future without us imposing our desires on them.

Alz said:
It’s not just Mubarak .The Egyptians are being subjected to Alinsky tactics from the Left. They don’t have any mechanisms to deal with it or even to understand what the Leftists are doing to them.

This is not about left and right. Injecting our political food fight into what is a genuine struggle for freedom is just plain wrong and a total misread of the situation.

Keeva said:
This is not about left and right. Injecting our political food fight into what is a genuine struggle for freedom is just plain wrong and a total misread of the situation.

Sorry, the insane Left is not just a US phenomena. My guess is that Soros is lurking around. There are too many similarities.

Republicans are confused they don’t if they want to support the protesters or Mubarak. Cheney and Beck are supporting Mubarak the Teabaggers are pulling for the protesters. Fox doesn’t know what to do. Behind the scenes Fox editors and producers are going through anguish and anxiety attacks.

Its kind of like immigration. Republicans don’t know if they like it or not. They like cheap labor; paying under the table but they don’t like looking at them and they don’t like having to pay for them to use the ER room.

And to top it all off you got CPAC. Where would we be without CPAC.

ImNotBlue said:
@ sky

Sky makes a decent point. Mubaral needs to go simply because he’s lost his people. However pushing him out over night could lead to major instability in the region. I heard an analyst say today that an over-night removal will be dangerous for all. But give Egypt a little time (September) to have a campaign and figure out how to have a fair and equal election, and things will be better for all.

Patience is needed, despite the desire to replace a dictator.

Gasket said:
I don’t think he will last till Sept for two reasons.

1. Pressure from the US.
2. Pressure from the people. They know if they let up and the media spotlight fades, they will get their heads bashed in by Mubarak and his goons. They have no choice but to keep the pressure for their safety.

I have to agree with you. I don’t like how the media likes jumping ahead of a story. They did the same with the Giffords shooting.

I’m definitely pissed with the way the Administration is handling the situation. They appear amateurish and very annoying. I don’t know who they are trying to prove to or who they are pleasing. Another aim at historical moment crap, maybe they are trying to have some reference in history book saying we brought Democracy to the middle east. I wish this was done closer to the election (Sept), then the reasonable transition could be made,but forcing him out before his term runs out is just a coup de tat, plain and simple.

The world is seeing what an empty suit hehimself really is. After being propped up on a pedestal by an adoring media, after being given verbal bjs by same for several years now, the world is seeing the uselessness of the mainstream media, along with the empty suitedness of our dear leader.

Keeva said:
This is not about left and right. Injecting our political food fight into what is a genuine struggle for freedom is just plain wrong and a total misread of the situation.

Considering the current track record Liberals have for “misread of the situation,” American cannot afford to continue down the path leading to that dangerous and wrong-headed presumption.

Coincidences rarely just happen accidentally. Riots in Greece and other nations are genned-up by Leftists demanding continuation of unsustainable ‘entitlements’ due to their emasculation into Leftist dependency. Radicals find it too easy to stir up rebellions that suit their agenda of radical global Communism. As Alz says, there are too many similarities in Egypt that fit the Alinsky………Soros………Marxist patterns.

ImNotBlue said:
However, in terms of left-right politics, I do find the left’s outrage a Mubarak as a dictator, versus their non-outrage (and even support) for other dictators -Chavez specifically- very hypocritical.

Not to mention the psychotic Left’s contradictory tolerance for Saddam Hussein.

Davo said:
Considering the current track record Liberals have for “misread of the situation,” American cannot afford to continue down the path leading to that dangerous and wrong-headed presumption.

Coincidences rarely just happen accidentally. Riots in Greece and other nations are genned-up by Leftists demanding continuation of unsustainable ‘entitlements’ due to their emasculation into Leftist dependency. Radicals find it too easy to stir up rebellions that suit their agenda of radical global Communism. As Alz says, there are too many similarities in Egypt that fit the Alinsky………Soros………Marxist patterns.

Not to mention the psychotic Left’s contradictory tolerance for Saddam Hussein.

I get these text messages from CNN on my cell phone and I keep seeing these comments from Obama about the “change” and that it should be “immediate, meaningful and sufficient”.

- How come Obama didn’t say this about the people in Iran?
- Or, Obama and the Liberals ALWAYS harp on our past and how we interfere with others. What the &^%$ is Obama doing?

This is good from Rush too: “Shameless Obama: Egyptians Just Want Their Own Version of Me”: http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_021011/content/01125111.guest.html

Any Muslims that dislike Christians Obama wants you to know your welcome over in the US to help with the Ground Zero Mosque. He’ll even throw in free Obamacare. Don’t worry he never mentioned how you brought the new year in to Christians in Alexandria, Egypt killing 21 Coptic Christians.

Please Check out song called teapartiers I can’t hear you at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJfboOindCo

Here’s a verse

Baucus is threatening insurance companies Obama the CBO
Medicare Advantage and free speech is about to go
He’d rather see people in our forts , planes and La liberty building die
then to see a muslim terrorist get water in his eye
All the insane and pervert czars and the communist ones too
are surprised how easily they took us without even a coup

Hey guys if you fought at the Khe San
when they stop giving your wife her meds and her last breath comes over her face
you’ll find comfort knowing some illegal or Gitmo detainee will gladly take her place.

Obamo is an effing meddlesome president…a child of the Leftist academic elite culture that decried any sort of ‘meddling’ in other countries’ affairs when a Republican was in the Oval Office. Obama’s Regime: completely hypocritical, and getting a deserved kick in the ass because of it.