O’Donnell is a racist for being mean to Cain.  We all need to kiss the ass of any black politician and agree with everything or else we are all racists.  Right Larry? 

And The Judges Announce Herman’s Scores-

9 For Poise
9 For Staying On Track
9 For Kicking Larry’s Ass !!!

Next Interview !!

Republicans wouldn’t invite a black guy into their house let alone elect him president. Ever. Like, ever.

This was the most hilarious interview in ages.
He literally called 81% of Americans brainwashed!
Kiss those votes goodbye!!!!
When Herb said he didn’t participate in the Civil Rights movement because maybe he had a sick relative I did a spit-take.

Of course Lawrence was baiting him but Cain sure fell for it hook line and sinker.  I thought Herb’s head was gonna esplode!!!
Not ready for prime time, he is.  lolol

So much for The Flavor Of The Weak.

I’m happy that Cain would consider being Mitt Romney’s VP.  A ticket that may have a chance of winning for Republicans.

cain wasnt marching with blacks during the freedom march

Larry asks probing questions-

Why did you dodge the draft ?
Why, as a black man, do you hate black people ?
Why do you hate the poor ?
What is your favorite color ?
If you were a tree, what kind would you be ?

Cain is irrelevant – he has no chance of becoming anything but the pizza guy. But it was nice to see Larry make him look like the buffoon he is.

cain: gays are gays by choice
o’donnell:are you straight by choice?
cain: next question

You are a racist Just like Al Gore and his racist daddy.

“And The Judges Announce Herman’s Scores-”

81% of those judges are brainwashed.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!

You must be another one of those racist Democratics.

Larry O didn’t agree with everything a black man said therefore by the left’s rules, he’s a Racist pig!

Fact: Cain once again stomped on the lefts tail and caused them to whine just as the lefties always does on any topic that requires work!

Alex . You don’t actually have jujubes in your home , do you ?

They’re only in movie theaters .

I’ve seen two interviews where Cain has tried to explain this insane 9-9-9 plan (on both Fox and MSNBC) and so far he’s yet to explain why this isn’t anything more than a scheme to shift the tax burden from the wealthy to the working poor. 

Is Lawrence O’Donnell nuts? How dare a black man not have put his young life at risk in a time of oppression! How dare he not sacrifice himself as a child because he is black!

If a holocaust survivor was running for President Lawrence O’Donnell would probably have scolded him and called him a coward while blaming him for the death of others for dare not fighting the Nazis head on because its somehow obligated due to him being Jewish.

How racist of an interviewer can you be?

what an stupid statement, Herman Cain is a racist

sure the Democrats are the ones with the bigot laws in Arizona and Alabama
what a jack ass you are!     i am old white male

I can’t stand O’Donnell’s lecturing tone and snark during the interview.  You can just tell he isn’t trying to give a fair interview, but trying to put Cain in a corner.

What are you smoking asshat?  If it wasn’t for Republicans, blacks in the south could very well still be drinking from separate water fountains!

God, the stupidity from the left is at times just too profound to truly appreciate!

yes like the 

Tea Party is going to take over the Republicans

so are you

My feelings about this interview are all over the place. On one hand, Larry was being Larry (i.e. mean as hell and I was loving it). On the other hand, Cain stuck in there and got in a few jabs of his own. Either way, Cain didn’t cower down as so many other politicians do and I’m sure even Larry respected him for that.

As a black person, however, I feel Cain defended some incomprehensible behavior as someone growing up during segregation. He essentially played the role of the good n*gger during a time when revolt was an outright necessity. (Oh, and before you dumb rightards jump all over that phrase, look up its history, learn something for once, and then shut the hell up. MADEA IS TALKING.)

He also lied about when he was available to protest. Larry rightfully called him out on that, but I guess this is what happens when you hire a ghostwriter to author your own damn biography (the f*ckers get **everything** wrong). Cain will NEVER get ANY support from black folks in this country for that reason and his brainwashing references. Even his view on Occupy Wall Street is offensive and wrong. Cain offends without knowing it, which is extremely dangerous as a commander-in-chief who must maintain equitable relationships with some mighty crazy foreign leaders.

Oh well. Entertaining. Nail-biting at times. I think they escorted the young fellow, who laughed at one of Cain’s answers, outside of the bookstore.

90% americans agt that time did not fight the british in the independence war, according to lawrence, 90% americans are not americans

Cains 999 plan sounds like a good start. He says he is putting the flat and fair tax together. He doesn’t mention however the other parts of the fair tax plan. First there is the part where everyone doesn’t have to pay taxes on the bare essentials of life and then there is the part about no taxes on used items including houses. Can you imagine what a boon to recycling it would be if no used items can be taxed so everyone would want to reuse as much as possible? Most people wanting a new house think it has to be new. Can’t find anything to tell me if this is included in the 999 plan. Anyone?

81% brainwashed, indeed.

well, let’s not like Larry out up photos of Cain as a witch doctor, demanded to see his birth certificate, called him a muslim, called him ‘a sambo’, called him ‘boy,’ made up a story about his wife calling people ‘whitey’ as a few folks on the right have donw with Obama. 

Ummm….Lawrence didn’t accuse him of not being American, he ASKED him why his war record entitled him to be Commander in Chief?

Try not to make stuff up, mkay teabagger?

Thanks!

More like a compromise between the Tea Party and Republicans. 

It’s the only way I can see the GOP winning….and that is only if Romney could win the Republican nomination.  Unfortunately because of his religion..like in 2008, it is a long shot. But maybe.

I’ll say one thing for Mr. cain – It’s nice to see a candidate who’s actually willing to go to an opposition show and take a few hard questions. Kind of a rarity these days, with most hopefuls sticking to ideologically ‘safe’ programs where they know they’ll be offered warm milk and a pat on the back.

Larry got his sweet white ass handed to him by a Black man and he doesn’t like it one single bit.

Larry thought that because Cain is Black that he wouldn’t be smart enough to debate him and ‘boy’ was he WRONG!

Larry will NEVER have Cain on his show EVER again.

BFD, You must love getting Tbagged. Douche

Very instructive and a well thought out point…but could you imagine how ridiculous Cain would look if he was responsible for…

$4.25 trillion of new debt in 2.75 years
Solyndra
Historic 1 out of 6 in poverty
Zero jobs created in Aug 2011
Fast and Furious
Historic 45.8 million on food stamps
Federal government that borrows $0.40/every dollar spent
9.1% unemployment

…and not just some guy that turned around a pizza place? 

Hey, if Cain were a community organizer, would you find him more appealing or are you just too ecstatic with 0bama’s results?

I find it somewhat perplexing that a young, African-American college student at Morehouse, of all places, from 1963, the Fall of 1963, to 1967 could have been so detached from the Civil Rights Movement. As a White high school and college student in Texas during this period, I was far more engaged in the Civil rights Movement. I know that sounds and is prideful, for which I apologize, and I am not condemning Cain for this. We all had difficult decisions to make during the Civil Rights Era and the Vietnam War. As long as you made a concious decision, I am fine with the decision.

Wow…Larry sure was an idiot on that one…and I’m an Independant (leaning left).

I’m interested to know why you think Cain would be the flip flopper’s VP instead of the other way around!

Cain has more experience from working in the Dept of the Navy that your man Obama does.  The closest Obama had to working in the military was flying from Hawaii to Harvard for school.

I don’t understand Cain’s answer about not serving in Vietnam. On the one hand, he said that his Draft Board told him continue his work. On the other hand he “submitted” to the draft lottery and got a high number. If that were the case, he would have never been in discussions with the Draft Board. It’s not adding up. Give me a protester, give me someone who went to Canada, give me someone who was drafted, give me someone who enlisted. I respect them all. Spare me those on the sidelines who made no decision.

I REALLY don’t know what the problem with Romney’s religion is. What is the difference between his religion and any religion. All of them exist in people’s heads! They’re not real! If anything, we should have a problem with a president who believes in ANY religion. 

It’s just a difference of opinion.

Well yeah Herman, but not all opinions are equal. Some are based in study, research and reasoning. Some are based on mythology. You’re free to choose mythology. You’re not free to pretend it’s equal to science.

(But he didn’t mean all black voters, he clarified. Just some.)

He didn’t clarify that. He said when he said it the first time. Everybody just neglected to mention that while they were trying to pound him for it.

I’m starting to feel sorry for him. I know his kind, and they’re generally really nice (even sweet) people. Just stubborn as hell about some very wrong things. Cain is not for this generation.

It doesn’t make any sense to me either.

It doesn’t make any sense to me either.

He actually did a good job, considering the circumstances. Larry don’t play!

You must have been watching something else.

The FOX version.

So?

Ya… they’re just the one’s that want to lynch Justice Thomas.

I don’t know, I kinda think Herm did OK. Larry was pretty vicious, I mean he pretty much called him a draft dodger and coward. Seemed like he was trying to hard to cause an “event”. Cain didn’t take the bait though. He’ll sell a few more books because of that interview, and he didn’t freak out when Larry questioned his father’s parenting approach so I guess he wins. And what the hell does Lawrence Freaking O’Donnell know about raising black kids in Atlanta in the 60′s? It took some stones to try that route to get a rise outa his prey. Good on Herm for not sinking to Larry’s level. 

You were in high school in 1963 ? At the age of 23 ?

Why did he cancel on Colbert?

And you are an idiot. I know that extra 21st chromosome makes it a little harder… but at least try.

Yeah. I wish America was more like a Godfather’s pizza

PLEASE
CONS

PPPLLLEEEAAAASSEE NOMINATE CAIN

PLEASE!! FOR THE HEALTH OF YOUR PARTY

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You can tell Robert is angry about this . When he doing his flower arranging , the petals are all over the room as he slams the flowers angrily into place .

 To use Cain and Allen West’s own words; they need to move back on the plantation and stop acting so crazy in front of the white people. the rest of us house negroes and slaves get mighty fine treatment from the black overseer maxine waters. We know our place-i.e. nobody likes a jive ass kiss ass.

Yeah.

That’s how stupid those idiots sound and why Cain might get three black votes: Rush Limbaugh’s manservant, Allan Keys, and Sean Hannity’s one black friend.

The only thing funnier than the construction of that sentence is that some other redneck actually clicked “like”. You guys are a hoot!

Lawrence asked him in the interview and he said he would consider it.  It’s almost like Cain is running for VP.

Plain and simple fact: anytime I disagree with Obama on POLICY, I’m still called a racist and am sick and damn tired of it and it’s past time the other side feels the stupidity of the insults.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3ctO7fdrcc

Nope…sorry.

 Awww tiny eddie putz made another joke!

How cute.

Who was the real “viewer” on those questions? – Olbermann?
LOL!

You all remember Olbermann, don’t you?
LMAO!

I respect your opinion.
Larry is an asshole and I seriously wonder why people still go on his show.
I’ve said that from the beginning.
And while it is true that Cain didn’t sink to asshole level like Larry, he did come off as a bit of a flustered buffoon.

Considering Larry isn’t running for anything and Herb is I think Cain definitely came out the massive loser here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3ctO7fdrcc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3ctO7fdrcc

There’s something especially jarring about watching a Rich White Liberal call out the bona fides of a successful black man.  See Liberals like Blacks as far as they can count of them for a vote or a talking point.  The minute they start thinking for themselves?  Forget back off the bus, they’re right under it.  But thanks to Larry for showing people how liberals would use the race card on a black conservative.

You have absolutely NO reason to apologize. You fought the good fight, so brag on, honey! 

I have a **serious** problem with him stating he went to school and stayed out of trouble, which is code for “he stayed on his side of the line.” It’s heartbreaking, especially since he (1) carried this attitude throughout his life and probably thinks its why he’s been so successful, and (2) rode on the coattails of thousands of dead civil rights soldiers who “didn’t stay out of trouble.”It’s really sad, and it represents just how f*cked up some black people really are in this country.

Romney’s religion is very real with conservative Republicans.  IMO it shouldn’t be but is with people who are close to me and always vote Republican.

Calling a CEO a pizza guy just because he is black??? Really? And being a “community organizer made BO ready for the White House???

Who is the racist???

He’s done better than you in life… hasn’t he.

O’Donnell is mentally ill.

That would be hilarious if it weren’t so sad and true.

Justice Thomas lynched himself.

Religion is a decease.

Sorry. Herman started it when he referred to himself as a *real* black man.

 I am pleased to inform you that you can also find them at your local neighborhood Rite Aid.

A national sales tax? I thought you Repulicans are against taxes?

Based on the things he said, ratboy, he’s still got some living to do!

Many republicans voted for the half black man we now have as President.  fact is, they won’t be voting for him again.  They must have turned racist.

what’s a decease?

What is Olbermann?

Yea, right, that is why Herman was asking him to change the subject LOL. It was painful to watch.

Love how the white left really believe they are more “black” than a black conservative.  Can they be anymore pathetic?  Cain is more black than Obama and Larry, Obama didn’t participate in any civil rights marches.  He was too busy being educated by this country’s best schools on the taxpayers dime. 

Nice non-comeback… weak. But if you’re OK with white people wanting to lynch black people if the black person is conservative… that’s your deal… not mine.

I personally don’t support lynching black people… but you are. Oh well… sucks to be you.

hee hee hee

Hmm, it seems Obama has been President for three years. That’s three more years of experience than Cain has at being President

Well, personally, I think he should have never answered it. Should have gave his 2nd answer as the first, but he’s a noob.

Hey MSNBC viewers… Do ya miss Olbermann yet?!!

I guess all that is what the right wing means by “real black man”

@tatboy:disqus why don’t you just go sit in a corner somewhere and jack the hell off!

Interesting observation.

I am a non-believer myself. But you statement is a little intolerant. Would you refer to other people or belief system as a “disease”? People are allowed to think and feel the way they want as long as it doesn’t hurt you or me. It is NOT a “disease”. And to say it is makes all non-believers look bad.

Right, I didn’t understand what he meant by saying he made himself available

B-
I think you’re right about most of what you say, but I think it’s unfair to accuse him of being a “good n*gger” . And by the way, I believe the term was “house”, not “good”. It’s OK that you didn’t know that though, and that such language is finally starting to fade from popular use with the Tyler Perry generation. It’s not fair though, to criticize his actions in the 60′s. It was a potentially deadly time for a black kid his age then, and not having been there, you THINK you know how you would have reacted and the brave steps you’d have taken, but until they’ve drug you out to the swamps and stuck a 12 gauge against your temple, you really don’t know, do you? Many were brave, not all to the degree you may like, but unless you were there it’s not fair to criticize. Herm or his father.  

What? O_o

Oooooo ratboy…. NICE! Think that one all up by yourself? BURN!!! Oh it hurts. I’m going to tell teacher.

My dad loves them and Necco’s

He does seem to be of a very different time.

I’ve been saying for a while that Cain is the most formidable guy they have. Hopefully, they don’t listen to me and nominate Perry instead.

Is is pretty well of. How big a loser is he really in the grand scheme of things?

My bad

If you truly phrase your objections as policy disagreements, and I am sure you do, that is clearly wrong. The problem is so many Crackers claim to be disagreeing with policy to mask their racism. I’m sorry you’re painted with that brush.

Probably seeing how many folks have regretted those appearances later on. Stephen is a master at getting people to embarrass themselves without realizing it. Like the had a guy on advocating the posting of the 10 commandments in public places, and ,when pressed by Stephen (who was in character and saying how much he agreed with the idea), the guy could only name 3 or 4.

Are you insane or just stupid? Cain, by his own admission, is blacker than Obama. Cain didn’t participate in any civil rights marches.  He was too busy being educated by this country’s best schools on the taxpayers dime. Did you pay ANY attention to the video?!?!?

Obama and his cronies set back racism to the 50′s. And they did it intentionally. The game plan, Play the race card as often as you can when Obama screws up, needless to say, its been played alot!

Actually they are for a “flat tax” or some other form of restructuring. Most are not “against” taxes as much as the way taxes are figured now. But not being a Republican I’m just guessing.

What do mean, more black? He has a darker skin tone? What?

I can’t believe that Lawrence O’Donnell still has a job, this guy is nuts! He is rude and absolutely vindictive in this interview, I have never seen Obama pursued like this in any interview before or after his election.  The part about the Viet Nam draft was particularly disturbing..  

No, I watch him on Current. Problem?

So, I was USN JAG. You were?

Um…Obama was two years old when MLK delivered the “I Have a Dream Speech.” 
I think he gets a pass for not being active in the civil rights movement of the 60s.

I love the libs use of teaba@@er. Do they like the feeling of sweaty balls on their chin that much?

What a nasty POS crazy larry is, no wonder his ratings suck

lol

Very clear why MSNBC has the lowest ratings. Good Job Mr. Cain for not letting this moron change your record.

Religion Caused 9/11!! The Crusades, Most wars. Almost all of the worlds problems are caused by religion which is spread person to person just like a disease.You can be tolerant if you want. But it seems to me most people that are religious are the most intolerant! How many more people should die because of religion? God is always on someones side and sometimes on both sides during a war.

LOL Cain did refer to himself as black walnut ice cream

No… except maybe with his ratings

I laugh so hard it hurts every time something slips out on them.

Like his demo for the first week of September being only 46,000
O’Donnell’s cable “news” show is rated somewhere in the high teens
Olbermann is ranked #65

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/27/business/media/msnbc-is-close-to-falling-to-third-place-in-cable-news-ratings.html?_r=2&pagewanted=all

As Democrat rep. Shella Jackson says ” Black people can’t be racist”

Swampthing what part of FL?

Two did they set racism back to the 50s?

Oh, you’ve not seen anything yet.

These folks are showing how oppressive and bat shit crazy they are.

Well I wouldn’t say they “turned”.. more of a permanent thing.

Idiotic and pointless post that could be applied to almost every politician who comes off looking bad.

You know when someone fucked up when you have to start talking about the “Grand Scheme”. lolol

Yea those southerners were really big on anti-slavery. Much like they are today, huge on equality in all forms. luuuulz

Questions about military service are par for the course of a presidential candidate, so I don’t see how that is unfair asking a candidate whocould have served at the time of Vietban

Does a disdain for faith come with the liberal decoder ring?

Someone is still messing around with my Diqus account,

Don’t talk like that about president Gore.

Autocorrect I meant “how”

Wherein did Emperor say he was 23 in 1963?

Okay. So you want to educate me too. Good. 

1. Fast forward about 100 damn years from slavery. Can you do that or do you think that all historical discussions about blacks are stuck in the 17-1800s?! Get a history book and get a clue. The term – DURING CAIN’S TIME – is “good.”

2.

“such language is finally starting to fade from popular use with the Tyler Perry generation”

I’m sure you meant such language is starting to lose its effect. We took it and we owned it.

3. As a black person in the 60s, you do not get to weigh what’s fair. You get to weight what is right. You do not think, you act. If you’re not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. 

4. I think this is a discussion for black people. Not you.

I just hope they can pace themselves a bit…

I’m really looking forward to watching bits and pieces of yet another group meltdown on election night 2012.

Vietnam

I like Larry and agree with him a lot as a commentator, but even I cringe at times when he does aggressive interviews. He’s overly accusatory in his tone and the long setup questions remind me of the kind of stuff Hannity does that annoys me. 
Maddow is much better at this sort of thing. Even Rand Paul said she was fair, and had good things to say about her after his civil rights bill comments on her show caused a stir.
You can disagree with someone without sounding like its an inquisition and Larry seriously needs to work on that.

Oh. Sorry to hear that.

 Are you screwing aroud with my account?

It’s the Democratic Party, so supporters are Democratics. 

You are STILL NECKED!

 You do realize that the biggest body count by far comes from  the dear little atheists like Stalin, Mao, Pol  Pot…and it continues to this day.

You know the wonderful regimes where atheism is a demand of the state.

ba dum ching

Why do you mention Olbermann?

Actually I think Larry is the one that comes off looking pretty bad in this one myself. But I guess it all comes down to perspective. Larry came off like a plantation owner that was upset that an uppity one was not towing the liberal line and he was going to put him in his place. I was actually pretty offended by it myself. My comment went toward your “massive loser” comment… that’s all. But I also disagree that Cain looked bad. But I guess you likes seeing him put Cain in his place?

Mind telling me how that’s different from saying that people who believe in God are duped?  What percentage of the country in that?

How about the percentage of people who wish to have prayer back in schools– the majority…. Liberals haven’t exactly had kind words for them.

How about the percentage of pop. who against gay marriage?   Free thinkers all?

sorry i have to disagree on the wars voltman…….history shows most are started for land and power, or political ideology

Many bad things can be connected to Socialism, Communism, etc. Do you want to go down that road?

By the way why are you referring to Lawrence’s a $$ as sweet

Isn’t that what you said about the initial support for the Iraq War?

What are you even talking about, dude? Which “white left” (whatever the hell that is) people are you referring to who’ve described themselves as “more black” than Cain?

If your intention was to sound ridiculous and totally ill-informed, congratulations. You couldn’t have done a better job.

His mother and father are black. We was raised by a black mother, father and most likely black grand parents.
Obama had one black and one white parent. Obama was raised by his white grand mother and grand father. He was sent to a privileged private school.
Cain has been successful running businesses. Obama by his own admission couldn’t even find a way to get the plumbing in a low income government assisted living facility fixed.

Some people here will do that… it’s very petty and annoying.

“My comment went toward your “massive loser” comment”

My comment was “massive loser here”.

“HERE”. As in: ON THIS SHOW. DURING THIS DEBATE. GET IT?

Stop misquoting me and just go the f*ck away, mkay?
FOX has trained you well.

So you’re saying that these racist really do think taxes should be raised and health care should be nationalized?  They just lie and say they don’t because the president is black?

B_F_D has the deranged evil laugh down doesnt he?
 
At this very moment BFD, RRE and Moosenuts are trying to form their own league of super villains, but they have had trouble deciding on a name..
 
Will it be called The League of Super Douchebags or The Axis of Assholes? We are all on pins and needles waiting to find out…

One thing I didn’t understand was why Lawrence insisted on playing the Hank Williams Jr. Clip. It didn’t seem relevant. What do you think?

Herman Cain insults, belittles and demeans people of all races equally. 

You know what he meant. Douche

Cainunism [keyn - yuh - niz - uhm] – noun

1. A theory or system of economic organization based on a wildly optimistic regard for the fiscal discipline of Congress and the President. Adherence to this theory typically requires the suspension of disbelief concerning the ability of increasing the government’s power to tax, without substantive spending cuts, to actually reduce burdens on taxpayers and to produce economic recovery.

2. The intentional use by politicians of resonant slogans which obfuscate and distract some voters from the otherwise conspicuous absence of thoughtful, realistic or realizable fiscal or monetary plans and policies.

Cainunist [keyn - yuh - nist] – adjective

1. Of, characterized by, favoring or relating to Cainunism; Cainunistic

In a sentence: “Imagining that a ‘9 – 9 – 9’ percent tax ‘plan’ would not soon be 9.9 – 9.9 – 9.9, then 19 – 19 – 19, and so on, is just more magical Cainunist thinking.”

Origin of Cainunism: term used by informed voters to describe the economic-sounding slogans that originated from the 2012 vanity presidential campaign of Herman Cain (1945 – )

Synonyms for Cainunism: 1. Prevarication, 2. Deception, 2. Cozen, 3. Hucksterism, 4. Hoodwink, 5. Sales Pitch, 6. Razzle Dazzle

Antonyms for Cainunism: 1. Common Sense, 2. Objective Reality, 3. Free Market, 4. Tax Reduction, 5. Economic Liberty, 6. Less Government, 7. Constitutionalism

WE support a person based on their ideology, NOT their race. 0bama’s ideolgy is marxist based.  Cains is based on the  Constitution.

TRRE, you had to be the worst attorney in the world because you can’t think your way out of a paper bag.

No wonder you quit practicing in order to lie to people that you’re in France while typing on blogboads the whole time.

I must agreer. It seemed rather third degreeish

It wasn’t relevant at all. I wondered the same thing!

::yawn::

I don’t want to go to work tomorrow.  I have a sick relative.

Evidently religion isn’t the opium of the masses….

George Wallace, Byrd,Ross Barnet, Orvil Faubus,…all southern dems that opposed integration.

You need to contact Disqus AND Mediaite, 

Am I not allowed?

Well, no you’ve not saying Cain “made no decision”.  You’re accusing him of lying.

 Take ANYTHING this guy says with a bathtub full of salt.

It was comical to see Lawrence trying to set up Cain with his questions and watching Cain destroy him with his answers. O’Donnell looked like the ass that he is….I hated to see it end…

That’s because you’re brainwashed.

I heard it was 99 percent.

You’re right.  This interview is pure gold.  I enjoyed watching the implosion everyone knew was coming. 

Cain is done.

How is Olbermann relevant to this discussion?

No. Their words are what comes out of their mouths. Own your own babbling.

Not to worry, BFD….  It’s O’Donnell.  Nobody saw it.

From what I saw Mr. Cain stood by his words for the most part unlike Rick Perry who has to backpeddle on a weekly basis it seems.

Oh RockyRoad. Thanks for that example. Typical fallacy in “conservative logic” (an oxymoron in and of itself).

Fallacious logic lesson 1:
 
Description of Straw Man

The Straw Man fallacy is committed when a person simply ignores a person’s
actual position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented
version of that position. This sort of “reasoning” has the following pattern:

Person A has position X.
Person B presents position Y (which is a distorted version of X).
Person B attacks position Y.
Therefore X is false/incorrect/flawed.

This sort of “reasoning” is fallacious because attacking a distorted version
of a position simply does not constitute an attack on the position itself. One
might as well expect an attack on a poor drawing of a person to hurt the person.

I tend to agree. O’Donnell is a very sharp guy and is really in command of his facts — he’s not just some blowhard like Hannity who hasn’t a clue what he’s talking about — but once in a while he sinks to do interviews that are gratuitously aggressive, and I think this one was right at the edge of that. It’s a shame, because it was a good opportunity to quiz Cain outside the Fox propaganda bubble.

What’s the science that has proven homosexuality to be genetic?

Speaking as a long time flack: Cain just jumped the shark. He’s toast. That was a Couric/Palin moment. Sooo onto the next front runner — how about Liz Cheney. That would be fun. LMAO

Boy that was dumb! You from Alabama or Texas? Both?

He was “on the sidelines” being a ballistics analyst (rocket scientist) for the Department of the Navy, Kook. If they wanted to draft him, they knew where to find him.

Oh, a candy ass REMF!

As Olbermann’s ratings declined at MSNBC, his diva ego and tantrums got so out of hand that he got shit-canned by Comcast.

O’Donnell (and Schultz for that matter) are heading down the same path.

Yawwwn. Example two of conservative stupidity. Common Fallacies in Argumentation: The Ad Hominem Attack. This is like shooting fish in a barrel. Really big Fish. With a Bazooka. Fun!

Translated from Latin to English, “Ad
Hominem” means “against the man” or
“against the person.”

An Ad Hominem is a general category of fallacies in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of some irrelevant
fact about the author of or the person
presenting the claim or argument.

Typically, this fallacy involves two steps.
First, an attack against the character of person making the claim, her
circumstances, or her actions is made (or the character, circumstances, or
actions of the person reporting the claim).

Second, this attack is taken to be evidence
against the claim or argument the person in question is making (or presenting).
This type of “argument” has the following form:

Person A makes claim X.
Person B makes an attack on person A.
Therefore A’s claim is false.

The reason why an Ad Hominem (of any kind) is a fallacy is that the
character, circumstances, or actions of a person do not (in most cases) have a
bearing on the truth or falsity of the claim being made (or the quality of the
argument being made).

Example of Ad Hominem

Bill: “I believe that abortion is morally
wrong.” Dave: “Of course you would say
that, you’re a priest.” Bill: “What about the arguments I gave to support my
position?” Dave: “Those don’t count. Like I said, you’re a priest, so you
have to say that abortion is wrong. Further, you are just a lackey to the Pope,
so I can’t believe what you say.”

(Oh, and before you dumb rightards jump all over that phrase, look up
its history, learn something for once, and then shut the hell up. MADEA
IS TALKING.)

Eat a bag of turds, MADEA.

Here’s where Lawrence lost. Frist he ask’s about Herman’s serving in the Navy. Herman corret’s him by saying he didn’t. That he worked for him. Then Lawrence tryed to jump all over him. By implaying he’s a draft doger. When before hand he thought he severd in the Navy. Then atacked him by because he didn’t march in the cilvl right’s movement becuase Herman was a in High School. Not everyone who was black didn;t was able to or had to march. That I feel was a cheapshot.

 Lawrence is way smarter then that. I kind of think he was reading of a script or something. Now I didn’t like Herman’s gay comments. I think that hurt him. But not like Lawrence hurt himself with this interview.

People are full of sinful thoughts and deeds. We choose which ones to
participate in, and others we choose not to. If someone has a tendency
to be with their own sex, they can chose to follow those deviant
feelings and participate in debauchery, or choose to refrain from acting
on it. To be temped is not a sin, but acting on those perverse
temptations is. Therein dwells the choice.

If Cain can stand up to socialist slime like O’Donnell then he may be a good pick as the GOP candidate. 

Lawrence was wrong about attacking Cain about Vietnam. The man made himself available for the draft and served in the auxilary unit in the military in some capacity.  At least he didn’t get 5 or 6 deferments like Cheney and then send our kids into a war that never should have been. Or a deferral because he had a wart on his ass like Limbaugh. I call them like I see them and Lawrence was wrong on that part big time.

Yeah, that’s why Cain is leading…

You do not think, you act.

Hey, who you calling brainwashed!?!

People are full of sinful thoughts and deeds. We choose which ones to
participate in, and others we choose not to. If someone has a tendency
to be with their own sex, they can chose to follow those deviant
feelings and participate in debauchery, or choose to refrain from acting
on it. To be temped is not a sin, but acting on those perverse
temptations is. Therein dwells the choice.

 Matter of fact we should reinstate the military draft.  And see how many people would still be warmongers like Chrystol and 3/4 of the Fox armchair patriots like O’Reilly and Hannity.  If the draft would be reinstated you wouldn’t hear a peep coming out of the right. All you’d see is ass and elbows.

mums the word. right now. it won’t be like whoever  did will admit it anyway. loose lips sink ships. We’ll figure it out.

It’s an interesting argument. Generally, some blacks can be more accurately described as bigoted or prejudiced; but not necessarily racist.

Here’s why: Racism is defined in Webster’s as a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent SUPERIORITY of a particular race.  

There is no historical evidence of blacks suggesting that they were SUPERIOR to whites. Or current social science for that matter. Quite the contrary, blacks have mostly fought for EQUALITY, while whites claimed racial superiority well into the last century. See Jim Crow laws, Civil Rights Act, Brown v Board of Education.
 .
That’s what the Gentlewoman was suggesting intellectually not emotionally. It’s an interesting and compelling argument.

I would like more problem solving math in the thread. 

I guess it’s no more irrelevant than Hannity or BillO repeatedly asking Dems, “Will you denounce the comments of (insert celebrity or random figure here.)” 
It’s practically a recurring feature on their shows, but I agree with you, other than Cain and Junior being conservatives, Larry’s question was rather unrelated to the rest of the discussion.It’s a common line of questioning on cable news and I’m no fan of it, no matter who does it.

It’s so eye opening when a liberal talks about a conservative black man. The truth of your hyprocisy becomes so clear.

Missouri actually.  And what is so dumb about posting a video of liberals wanting to lynch a black man? I thought that sort of thing should be brought out into the light.

I guess you support that. Sorry to hear you approve of such things. I pity you.

Actually, Charlie Rangel did try to reinstate the draft until Bush got out of office.

Yeah, what you said is correct. It just doesn’t apply here… at this point in time.

Yawn… I was responding to another post about liberals not being bigots… moron. The clip disproves that assertion.

oh my gosh….just watched LO.  that was embarrassing for LO.  whoa! 

“Socialist slime”? Really, get help — more than just your thorns are tangled.

So you want to start choosing Commanders In Chief from the ranks of military members?

I’m game.

Hey I’m a black liberal. Tacitly you’re saying I’m dumb. In psychology we call this “projection.” If we let most of the south secede our collective national IQ would go up by double digits. New York-The Big Bad Eliie, with their college degrees, Apple-tinis and hot hors d’oeuvres. Alabama=Bubba Gump, Confederate Flags and tuna casserole with spam topping.

I think O’Donnell knew that Cain hadn’t served in Navy when he framed the question that way.

There is not a bigger IDIOT on planet Earth, than Lawrence ‘Unhappiest Gay Around’ O’Donnell. That pos is worthless. But, it shows where LSDnbc is coming from. A sad state of affairs for cable. No wonder everyone with a brain watches FOX News and the braindead tune into the lowlife PMSnbc. .

Why? Are you jealous?

B_F_D said ” Cain literally called 81% of Americans brainwashed!”. 

Hummm. I seem to remember Obama calling 40% of the country (Rebublicans) the ENEMY. By your reasoning, Obama must be toast!

what about newt?  i am asking seriously since you are maybe a democrat.  id like to know what the dems think about newt gingrich.  i think he is brilliant.

i like cain, but he just doesnt have the washington experience.  ya gotta have someone in there that knows how it works, at least a little.

What you see is what you get. 

They don’t call him “Crazy Larry” because he sells used cars.

Cain totally ko’d Crazy Larry. :)

So?

All the while “studying islam” too? Wow. None of which shows might I add.

nope, just don’t like the chickenhawks. Here is the defintion and a whole list of them in case you don’t know. http://www.nhgazette.com/chickenhawks/

I’m republican.  I have many black friends, but I don’t see them as black. I see them as my friends and fellow Americans.  I hate to tell you, but the racial hatred of blacks against whites and vice versa is practically non-existent in the younger generation.  They just don’t fell the hate.  Thank goodness. I feel sorry for kids like Malia and Sasha who went to  a racist church with “Reverend” Wright continuing to teach the next generation how to continue to hate fellow Americans.  Michelle and Barack should be ashamed of themselves for exposing them to the hate that came out of that man’s mouth.

I’d wager that having R after his name won’t help him either…

Cain is serious. Colbert is on the COMEDY CHANNEL in case you didn’t notice.

Must be that karma.

Well, great…  We’ll let you know when we see any black people.

Cain ate Larry’s lunch.  I don’t know what you were watching.  

Yes, I know. You saw how far that got.. anyway hope you enjoy.. this one  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTAqUwYHnec&feature=related

Cain tells the truth.  Liberals are like cockroaches that scatter when the light is shone on them.  Larry looked like the ass that he is.

I would never vote for a Republican (unless Paul gets the nom) but that Vietnam question was one of the worst questions I have ever seen on tv.

I would never vote for a Republican (unless Paul gets the nom) but that Vietnam question was one of the worst questions I have ever seen on tv.

Yeah… well, what’s a rocket scientist…  They’re a dime a dozen….

How anyone can be so stupid as to construe asking the rich to pay their fair share into redistributed  wealth  is beyond me.  Do you people ever get your hips off your shoulders?

I guess Larry forgot about the liberal hero Bill Clinton who was a known draft dodger.  He served for 8 years.  No questions asked by the libs in the press.  Hypocrits all of them,

Uh huh, I’m John Wayne.

12voltman1 said “Religion caused 911!”

Are you implying that – must be careful here – implying that, um, MUSLIMS caused 911? Fanatical or otherwise, so not pc to say aloud!

Stinger!

Lookee here-when da bossman says git you hindend to the backs of the bus you gets yo hindend to the backs of da bus. You want to go to jail? nosir! Bus driver be throwin colored people in jails alls de time! I says stay in school and out of troubles.What you want? I was like twelves.” Herman Cain on the Civil rights struggle from the pages of his own book and re-iterated on LD’s show the last word.

Pardon me while I THROW UP.

I suppose you would have volunteered to go to that hell hole because you are such  a good person. Ha.  Cain’s brain was needed with the department of the Navy.  I know that’s hard for you libs to understand, but there are many different ways to serve your country.  Bill Clinton was a known draft dodger and you all love him.   I guess a known draft dodger in the lib world is a respected man rather than someone that was asked to use his intellegence in other areas.  

Yes, a time when it wasn’t a sin to be a self made man. A time when it was considered a good thing to be successful. Not like today when a successful business person is considered evil.

Just wondering why you are talking about a guy’s a $$

What is wrong with following your father’s advice to stay out of trouble and concentrate on your future? I admire him for doing the right thing and not blaming whitey for all his woes.  He is a self made man and stayed out of trouble so he could be successful.  What’s the problem?  This stuff happened 50 years ago.  It’s 2011, let’s please move on.

I agree. Cain has charisma others lack

Well, you didn’t think they were going to reinstate the draft when THEY controlled both houses and the presidency?….

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=wkEeNpWMvgk&vq=medium#t=38

Obama was in the Muslim country of Indonesia at a Madrasa learning to speak Muslim and being called to Muslim prayers while the Civil rights movement was going on in the USA.

Proud John McCain support then.  How nice!….

The anger with which it was asked was the most disturbing.

I know nothing about Larry- but did he ever serve in the military or march in for Civil Rights?  I think he would be around 16 or 17 during the time he is grilling Cain about. 

Do you also hate folks that advocate higher taxes and then take loopholes to avoid paying taxes, or worse cheat on their taxes? (Rangle, Kerry, lots and lots of Obama’s peeps)  Seems about the same level of double-cross to me.

Wait till Al Sharpton gets a hold of that disrespectful pasty faced cracker!

Really? So you are fighting feelings of having sex with other men (or women, I can’t tell by your androgynous name and picture) on a day to day basis?  You are saying that everybody has to fight off these feelings because we all have them?  How old were you when you decided to be straight? If science actually discovered a “gay gene” and you were pregnant and knew that the fetus was going to have the gene, would you abort the baby or let him grow up as he was intended, as a homosexual?  It’s so easy for you radical right people to judge other people when you have never walked in their shoes.  Trust me, you would believe differently if you or someone you loved was homosexual.  Why is it your own personal business what other consenting people do?  Your obsession indicates a tendency to be attracted to the deed.  Religion is killing and murdering people in the name of your so called “god”.  How truly sad that is, for you to live in fear of a hateful entity.       

Herman Cain! Twice the black man than Barry 0bama can ever be! Twice the man, period.

You have no math skills obviously.

Maybe because he was about fifteen at the time?

Like Godfathers not needing a bailout? Where you get what you pay for? No shoes, no shirt, no service? I wish America was like Godfathers Pizza, too. Led by a successful black man. Led by a man that believed in his company, his country and his ability to succeed. Instead we got a black man running the country like Enron on steroids.

Herman Cain can run this country like Godfathers any day. Instead we have Barry 0bama running it like Enron.

Dufus Ranegro; 1/2 plus 1/2 equals 1. 2/2 plus 2/2 equals 2. Last I saw 2 was twice 1. Correct the math if you can.

cain is not done,       he’s just beginning

the probem with romny s romnycare

I appears that you’re the one doing all the talking. Is there something you want to get off your chest? It’s okay, they don’t kick you out of the military anymore.

read cains resume.

it isnt a lie

Nice play on words. Have you met Hugo Daun? He says you swallow without throwing up. He says you gave moosenuts his nickname. 12iqman has no clue what you were doing. But, Natureboy wants to be next to Bill and Bob “broadening” his horizons, as an exgoper tbaggee.

Nice play on words. Have you met Hugo Daun? He says you swallow without throwing up. He says you gave moosenuts his nickname. 12iqman has no clue what you were doing. But, Natureboy wants to be next to Bill and Bob “broadening” his horizons, as an exgoper tbaggee.

not against taxes, against soaking thet rich . punishing people that suceed at life.

not against taxes, against soaking thet rich . punishing people that suceed at life.

You are a disgrace 

caucasions cant talk about race? Why not?

Read Cain’s resume

Nice logic…

All you’d see is ass and elbows.

Now that DADT is gone, we don’t think you’d even notice the elbows, would you? I think it would be great to have all kids serve their country in the armed forces. What’s wrong with that Mr. boy? I makes men of boys.

So a lot of the ‘racists’ out there actually support Obama’s policies but because they are soooo fueled by racism they say they don’t in order to elect people to enact polar opposite policies even though those protesting don’t want those polar opposite policies to come to fruition because they secretly support Obama’s policies except have to front because they hate black people and their racism blinds their own best interests? Yes its a run on…and it makes about as much sense as liberals who pull the race card. 

Do you see how the liberal race card logic is insanely idiotic? 

Guyoxim….

Token grammar police of the message board. What a great accomplishment in life I really like the substance you bring to the the political discussion. Oops… I had an extra ‘the’ …. or am I supposed to have 2?

Please…correct me and then call me a redneck you grammar police you. 

Guyoxim….

Token grammar police of the message board. What a great accomplishment in life I really like the substance you bring to the the political discussion. Oops… I had an extra ‘the’ …. or am I supposed to have 2?

Please…correct me and then call me a redneck you grammar police you. 

If you see politics as that black and white then…. i’m sure 99% of everything goes right over your head. 

That’s because you’re a *real* black man unlike Cain right?  (As you stated earlier)

Well, who knew that current Obama critics are just voters who support nationalized health care and higher taxes but pretend that they don’t because they don’t like a black president.

Who knew that Obama critics were all Bill Clinton Democrats.

Yeah, Cain didn’t fight firsthand in the war… so what? He was working with the Navy to develop weapons and strategy to use within the war to ensure victory. Sounds to me like he helped his country during wartime. And look at Cain’s resume, he’s a really smart dude. His gifted math skills were put to use and in war time victory requires both brains and brawn. Its stupid to harp on this issue when Cain’s service is proven. End of story. 

Herman Cain’t. 

 Yup, just as I suspected; you’re an idiot.

Yes all of those things are true. Plus I humped your mom and I’m your real dad. Every time your mother kisses you she leaves a little bit of my ball sweat on your cheek.

;-)

Yes all of those things are true. Plus I humped your mom and I’m your real dad. Every time your mother kisses you she leaves a little bit of my ball sweat on your cheek.

;-)

Nice homophobic slur your tolerant liberal. Is the irony escaping you that much?

NDanielson 10/06/2011These boards have been overrun, goodbye mediaite!That doorknob stuck in your a$$??

NDanielson 10/06/2011These boards have been overrun, goodbye mediaite!

That doorknob stuck in your a$$??

NDanielson 10/06/2011These boards have been overrun, goodbye mediaite!

That doorknob stuck in your a$$??

You don’t understand anything you effing moron! Why don’t you piss off.

NDanielson 10/06/2011These boards have been overrun, goodbye mediaite!

That doorknob stuck in your a$$??

well it might be because MOST of the rich ARE paying MUCH higher tax rates!  you can google, but heres a start:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/breaking/chi-data-the-rich-actually-do-pay-more-taxes-20110920,0,3645513.story

I am sure your 3 twitter followers are sitting on the edge of their seats waiting for your next words of wisdom.

Because Larry was lecturing Cain on how he should have acted without knowing the details of Cain’s life and family situation at the time. That’s not how two adults ought to talk to each other.

 I’d like to ask Lawrence O’Donnell what he was doing during the civil rights movement? I doubt he was marching with the blacks and combating injustice. 

Because Larry suffers from the same mental disorder as Keith. 

Why is it just a discussion for black people…  you sure didn’t throw down on old Lawrence O’Donnell for going after a black man and what he did or didn’t do regarding civil rights.  Why don’t you google Shirley Sherod’s full speech that she gave to the NAACP if you want to understand what Guyoxim was trying speak to.. listen to her describe her father being killed in her front yard for standing up for his civil rights.   Georgia was not always a good place, back in those days even Atlanta could be a dangerous place.  

Who are you to decide what Herman Cain should have been doing at the time, one thing is clear, Herman Cain made something of himself, why should he be subjected to someone like Crazy Larry questioning his patriotism, he was working for the military effort anyway, probably doing more than many officers who were at the time in the military.  If Herman Cain were not conservative you would be wanting to kick Crazy Larry’s ass just about now… don’t lie to yourself. 

Grammar police… really? 

Just justification for this dumba$$ to hate

Nice to see you back james..

psssst

that was last week

Norbit sent out the message – he’s a Marxist who sent the protesters to wall  street so he could get re-elected.
you need to upgrade to 4g

Waaaaa
I’m only 2 years old.

(Scrooged anyone?)

Actually, you started it with
Larry got his sweet white ass

boom chucka mou mou

Breightbart

Well, I don’t have any facts but…..

Um……..  Levi?  Just a suggestion.  Do a little research on political history so you’ll know that the Democratic party dominated the south at the times you’re referring to.  The south does not equal Republicans historically.  It was actually the Barry Goldwater campaign (R) that developed the “southern strategy” in 1963-1964  which was made to appeal to racial biases in an attempt to get him elected.  The Republican party from that point on was labeled as supporters of racism.  Pre-Goldwater it was the Democratic positions in the south (racist positions) that dominated the landscape.  Mark from Savannah is actually historically correct.

Try to be a little more intellectual in your postings.  You’re embarassing yourself with your lack of knowledge and rapid-fire hyperbole.

Larry O’Donnell is seriously ill. Some of his questions were incredulous, but Cain kept his cool and managed to get some practice answering the left wing loony questions that are sure to follow.

NDanielson 10/06/2011These boards have been overrun, goodbye mediaite!

That doorknob stuck in your a$$??

hahaha

kids at the playground are gonna love that one
I’ll give you credit though

I love how all the white suburbanites want to educate you and talk about what it’s like to be black

I like O’Donnell, and I also like Cain!
Hmmmm

I didn’t start a thing but if you want to discuss his candy ass don’t let me stand in your way.

beginning what?

I don’t know why they do it. I would never try to educate whites about what it’s like being white. It’s offensive and insensitive.

Why is it just a discussion for black people…

That should be rather self-explanatory.

you sure didn’t throw down on old Lawrence O’Donnell for going after a black man and what he did or didn’t do regarding civil rights.

Cain made the mistake of calling himself a *real* black man, so he opened himself up to the challenge of what being black really means.

Georgia was not always a good place, back in those days even Atlanta was hardly any different than small town Georgia.

Uh huh. Fear mongering is a strategy whites tried to use to keep blacks in line. But it was overcome. God Almighty – It was overcome!

Who are you to decide what Herman Cain should have been doing at the time

A voter.

why should he be subjected to someone like Crazy Larry questioning his patriotism

He’s running for the presidency.

If Herman Cain were not conservative you would be wanting to kick Crazy Larry’s ass just about now… don’t lie to yourself.

If Cain weren’t a conservative, he wouldn’t be saying the stupid shit he says. And both Larry and I would be very pleased.

Who you choose as your gratification partner is your business, I do not care how you live your life but you cross the line when you try to push you choice as a proven science. The majority of the world has rejected this choice of life style as the norm and you wishing that it would be accepted is a pipe dream.

I consider myself a conservative but when it comes to social issues I’m
liberal. I believe people are born straight or gay and don’t have a choice, but
that doesn’t stop me from supporting Herman Cain. I also believe marijuana is
just a plant and is God’s creation, but that doesn’t stop me from supporting
Herman Cain. I think in time the people will come around on social issues just
like the changes in the belief of witches when we had witch hunts or the racist
way of thinking in the past when Cain was growing up. I consider myself a
conservative because of my belief in free enterprise and capitalism and the
American dream. My American dream is also includes a dream of individual rights.
Obama calls himself a liberal but he is planning on cracking down on medical
marijuana while selling guns to the cartels. The Libertarians have it right but
too many are afraid to vote for a third party for fear of Obama getting four
more years to ruin this country.

THIS is why! http://www.mediaite.com/online/laura-ingraham-would-a-herman-cain-presidency-be-historic-because-obama-has-white-relatives/

A far left socialist having a debate with a capitalist – have to wonder why Cain would bother.

My comment that there are only two genders, male and female,
that there is no third gender, has struck a nerve with a lot of people. I will
try to clarify my posts. First how you live your life is not any of my concern
unless you are interfering in the way, I choose to live my life. Methods of
gratifications are each individual choice. If you choose to be with an
individual with the same plumbing, I don’t care. My objection is that for
decades you have tried to force your choices on the majority of the American.  You expect us to accept that your choice is
normal and should be taught in the public education system. This is wrong. You
can not make a wrong, right, or abnormal, normal, just because you desire it to
be so. Keep your s…al life private as I do mine and I promise you that I will
not force my lifestyle on you. Why can’t you offer me the same courtesy?

From what I have observed among the same plumbing citizens
there is a big difference in how I regard the freedoms of others and the
constitution than the way the plumbing community feels towards and acts toward
the non plumbers. If I hear a loud crowd surrounding you and your gratification
partner’s home showing hostile intent, I would be out my door and in front of
yours before you could turn your lights on, demanding that the mob disperse. I
will stand by your right to live you life as you wish, without fear of bodily
harm.  Don’t expect me to invite you for
dinner for that not going to happen. It’s a constitutional right not an
acceptance of your lifestyle that will drive me to risk my life to protect
yours. 

The argument that they did not choose to be that way is not
important to me. It is not relevant in this argument. The question that is
important is it right for this hand full of loud mouth bullies to force others
to accept a life style that runs counter to human nature and the beliefs of the
majority.  It is idiotic to consider this
group as a third gender that has more rights than other citizens.  They are men, women there is no other choice
no third gender. They have the same rights as all other Americans.

To the citizens that have stood by silently that have let
this life style be pushed on you as normal even though you know it is not
normal. Do not let them make you feel guilty you are with the majority.  Speak up and tell them to live their life and
keep their s…al preference out of public policy.

Why is that response and “love it or leave it” default responses when you’re debating/arguing with reTHUGlicans and regressives?

Ha, ha, ha,ha,ha,ha, that’s some funny shit. A CONservative/regressive asking to see scientific data. As if you’d understand it because the bible doesn’t speak on it

Jesse, you sound like that closeted homosexual Mark Bachmann.  Better watch out, I hope we don’t find out that you’re trying to pick up toilet paper, in an airport bathroom, with upside down knuckles like Larry Criag

O’Donnell self-describes himself as a socialist… You Fail.

Is that bitch bringing that out again?  Next thing you know, he’ll figure out a way to blame that shit on Anita Hill.  Someone should look into that conflict of interest when you’re skank works for an organization that was against the health care reform bill.

Second part             

To understand where the United States is in relation to
other countries regarding the same sex partnerships, I first researched Russia
and found that this socialist society has a history of being very hard on the
{HS] life style.  A brief history is
given on the Martin Frost web site.

The gay right parade held in Moscow in 2006 ended in chaos
due to the fact that the {HS} had decided to defy the law and lay flowers on
the grave of the Unknown Soldier and a angry mob and police stopped this
effort.  Many arrests were made. {HS} was
decriminalized thirteen years ago.{13]

“in the country. Some demonstrators on Saturday shouted
“Moscow is not Sodom”, and “Pedophiles, get out of Russia!”
Martin Frost web site.

Revolution
Just as life seemed to be getting less complicated; the Russian Revolution of
1917 intervened and changed social attitudes again. On the one hand the entire
criminal code was scrapped and with it the offence of men going to bed
together. However, that didn’t mean an end to persecution. Homosexuality,
including among women, was dealt with as a medical problem, something which
could be treated and cured.
Under communism lesbians were often reported to the authorities by their
parents or a guardian, then held in a psychiatric clinic for three months,
given mind-bending drugs, and eventually registered with a doctor as mentally
ill. Any attempt at a professional career was crushed and they were even
refused driving licenses.
Masculine jobs
Soviet psychology devised a theory for recognizing ‘active lesbians’, including
singling out women performing masculine jobs, and those who smoked, went
drinking, rode horses and used bad language. An article written by Maxim Gorky
was damming about homosexuality: “eradicate homosexuals and fascism will
disappear.” A year after he wrote those words, the Nazis criminalized
homosexuality anyway.
The situation got worse: during the height of Stalin’s reign of terror, raids
and arrests took place on a regular basis, with homosexuals being punished once
again with five years exile in Siberia. The exact numbers of arrests aren’t
known, but by the 1980s the figure had reached 1000 men being detained each
year. It was only with President Gorbachev’s ‘glasnost’ policies that the first
glimmer of recognition for gay people emerged with the setting up of the Moscow
Gay and Lesbian Alliance and an officially registered newspaper, called Tema.
The Russian as well as the majority of the American society will never accept
{HS} as a normal behavior, laws and wishes of this group will not change what
is commonly known that men on men is a choice that is outside the true nature
and purpose of man. 

George Lopez: ”Cain is Darker Than Obama, But Whiter On The Inside”. 

Did you march for civil rights? I guess you’re not old enough.   I’m glad Cain took his fathers advice so now we can have a seasoned leader to be our next President.  What did you do to support your beliefs?  Would you risk jail for something you belived in, for example would you grow a pot plant, after all it’s just a plant.  This O’Donnell guy sounds like a jackass to me.

. Huh?

Part Three

Religious View Points:

Christianity and the Followers of the religion of MECCA are
very clear {HS} they both condemn it as an abomination to God. There are 1.5
billion followers in the world that are prohibited by their religion to even
consider this life style normal and it will never be accepted as normal. In
Christianity there are groups that have been filtered by liberals and have
changed the tenets of the faith but they are a minor amount compared to the
majority that will never accept this as normal behavior.   i

The Hindu religion has opposing views on the subject. 

Opponents
of homosexuality argue that:

Romantic love is only natural between a man and a
woman, and it is impossible for two men or two women to experience the
same form of love. Since romantic love is only possible between a man and
a woman, sex between two men or two women can only be the product of lust,
and lust is wrong; therefore homosexual activities are wrong. One of the three functions of marriage is Prajaa, the
progeny for perpetuation of one’s family. A homosexual couple cannot
procreate, and thus cannot be married.

Premarital
and extramarital sex is wrong, and because homosexuals cannot marry, they
should not engage in sexual relationships.

·        
The Srimad
Bhagavatam Debate

·        
Within the Srimad Bhagavatam
there are a few lines (Canto 3, Ch.20 Text 23, 24 & 26) that describe
Brahma’s creation of a group of demons that became obsessed with sex and
demanded sex from him, but then he became frightened and ran away from them.
Opponents of homosexuality believe this proves that homosexual behaviour is
lustful and evil. Proponents of homosexuality argue that the demons were the
children of Brahma, and that this story teaches that incest is lustful and evil
(compare to the story of Shatarupa).

·        
In a 1993 talk given in Seattle, the Dalai Lama
said:

·        
nature arranged male and female organs “in
such a manner that is very suitable… Same-sex organs cannot manage
well.” But he stopped short of condemning homosexual relationships
altogether, saying if two people agree to enter a relationship that is not
sexually abusive, “then I don’t know. It’s difficult to say.”

·        
The Dalai Lama was more specific in a meeting
with Buddhist leaders and human rights activists in San Francisco in 1997,
where he commented that all forms of sex other than penile-vaginal sex are
prohibited for Buddhists, whether between heterosexuals or homosexuals. At a
press conference the day before the meeting, he said, “From a Buddhist
point of view, [gay sex] is generally considered sexual misconduct.”
But he did note that this rule is for Buddhists, and from society’s viewpoint,
homosexual relationships can be “of mutual benefit, enjoyable, and
harmless.”

·        
The Dalai Lama is well known for his activism
for human rights, and this specifically includes equal rights
for gays. According to an Office of Tibet spokeman, “His Holiness opposes
violence and discrimination based on sexual orientation. He urges respect,
tolerance, compassion, and the full recognition of human rights for all.”

The majority of the world looks on {HS} as being
wrong but will tolerate and accept this behavior as long as this group does not
try to push the world into accepting it as the norm. This is what is happening
and this is going to result in a backlash that will hurt innocence people.

Respect the rights of the majority and we will
respect yours. If you hateful people think you are in the majority you are dead
wrong. We have allowed you to push this life style but we have not accepted
it. 

·  My comment that there are only two genders,
male and female, that there is no third gender, has struck a nerve with a lot
of people. I will try to clarify my posts. First how you live your life is not
any of my concern unless you are interfering in the way, I choose to live my
life. Methods of gratifications are each individual choice. If you choose to be
with an individual with the same plumbing, I don’t care. My objection is that
for decades you have tried to force your choices on the majority of the American. 
You expect us to accept that your choice is normal and should be taught in the
public education system. This is wrong. You can not make a wrong, right, or
abnormal, normal, just because you desire it to

be so. Keep your s…al life private as I do mine and I promise you that I will
not force my lifestyle on you.

Yes, because republicans and 40 are the same as brainwashed and 81.

Congratulations teabagger, idiot post of the week.

Well I guess you can call me a racist.  I feel that we’re superior and we have to be.  We’re always the last hired and the first fired.  We always have to be better than you just to keep what we have.  At my job, I work twice as hard, for twice as long, just to prove to those Harvey Milktoast motherfckers that I deserve my position.  I always make it a point to rub it in their faces when I do something of merit that allows me to get a bonus and they don’t. My father, who grew up during the Jim Crow era, taught me that and in turn I’m teaching my kids that whatever the hell you people can do, we can do it better and that you’re the competition.

You must be one of the brainwashed.  Raising taxes on the rich would be O’K’ if we actually used the money to pay down the debt, but more useless government spending won’t cut it.  Want people to go back to work, stop the unemployment checks.

As someone who is usually more inclined to agree with Lawrence O’Donnell, I must admit that Mr. Cain defended most of his positions quite ably and I can see why he his gaining in popularity.

He has no chance of winning the nomination in my estimation, but he definitely comes across as much more authentic than Romney or Perry.

That’s a dumb statement.  Rebuplicans couldn’t care less what color a person is.  It’s the content that’s important.  I can’t what until Cain kicks Obama’s ass in the debates.  Like it or not our next President will be a black republican, Cain2012

It is not racist to want the laws of the land upheld.How dare you imply such a thing. We are a nation of laws and they must be enforced and obeyed. I have the bruises for standing up against racism. I doubt if you have ever stood in the line of fire. Do not imply that a person wanting our laws enforced is a racist.

Illegal aliens be they students or workers or just welfare
dependents had best get it through their head that America in in no mood to
give criminals a free path or a free lunch. Politicians that do not accept this
and do not tell them the truth are risking their political life as well as the
well being of the criminals.

Students I am sorry that you have irresponsible parents that slipped in under
the cover of darkness and gave you false hope. I apologize for the politicians
that lied and mislead you into thinking that America was a lawless nation
inhabited by fools. We may appear foolish because of our compassion but you and
your parents have abused our compassion and we have had enough.

You are old enough to understand that you are breaking the law  and its
time for you to man up and go to your country and make a difference where you
belong. Ever seat you occupy, ever dollar spent on educating you, ever break
you receive belongs to legal citizens and legal immigrants who have responsible
parents. It not right for our children to suffer while you suck up the
benefits. You do not belong here. Take your plight up with your parents, stay
off the streets, you have no right to protest and you are exposing yourself to
danger.

I promise you this that if you go home and apply to come here legally I will be
pressing my representatives to make it as easy as possible for you to return.
If you do not go home, I will promise you that myself and millions of others
will fight to our dying breath to be sure our laws are obeyed and the benefits
are reserved for legal immigrants and our citizens. That you will never be able
to enjoying the privilege of citizenship-you do not deserve it. There are
millions waiting on the call that their visa has been approved, they have been
standing in line for years and your parents slip in like a theif and you
somehow think you deserve special treatment.

I am sorry for the harsh words but it is time for American to quit being
foolish and cowardly and tell you and your criminal parents how we feel. I want
you to go back to your country and live in the daylight not in the darkness. If
you want to apply to come here legally, I help you process you papers free of
charge. All I can do is make sure all the i are dotted and the t are crossed.
There are no short cuts but there is a procedure.

Grow up-be responsible and quit expecting a free ride because its not going to
happen, Perry has lost the Presidency because of his open border policy and
free tuition. Changes are coming. Americans are taking back our nations from
the socialist. You are caught in the cross-hair. I am sorry. You are a victim
of your parents and our government.

Don’t expect an answer.The baggers evade anything that shows their BS.

Now that Palin is out Cain wants to carry water for the teabaggers.

Wishfull thinking on your part.  Sounded like Larry was toast here.  He brought up stupid stuff.  Wonder if Larry signed up for the service or was he the draft dodger.  Like it or not Herman Cain will be our next President and I would be proud to have him.  He will win by a landslide in the Florida primaries and never look back.

You can’t blame anyone for pushing him into the hole he dug for himself.  He shouldn’t have dug the hole.

D e r p Guest why don’t you post with an identity instead of guest or are you chicken

Didn’t think you were smart enough to figure that one out on your own.

I guess you haven’t seen him backpedaling on damn near everything he has said.  He is another one that will fall by the wayside because he doesn’t know how to think before he speaks.  You can’t exactly do that when dealing in international affairs.

I am sure you are qualified to make a diagnosis of a mental disorder

It’s was O.K. to elect a person brought up as a muslem but not a Morman? 

Yes, really

you still didnt answer the question. And no there is nothing I want to get off my chest.

Actually Cain admitted that he graduated High School in the summer of 1963 and started college in the fall of 1963.  The years O’Donnell asked about were 1963 to 1967 so Herb lied when he first answered the question and tried to give the impression that he was in High School during those years.

No, no irony. Perhaps you should look up the definition of irony.

You are the one who wrote “sweet white ass”. Is that not true?

First of all the only thing that Gore is president of is the Scammers of the world. He is the chief liar and chief racist of the ex-vice presidents. Imagine him trying to sell Global Warming. What a scam. Oh, by the way him and his father were racist check their family history.

well said.

It his policies not the color of  his skin. He is a disaster. Cain 2012.

Nice try Dem4ever or whatever your name is.

You are truly STUPID. (We was raised by) How fucking STUPID can a person be ?,……as stupid as YOU.

He wants his children to grow up and be just like him and his wife. Hate is natural thing to Obama.
There are many questions about his personal life that he has
hid from the public. He has locked tight his educational records; he has spent
close to two million dollars to block them from public view. What is he
hiding?  There are still questions on his
birth that need to be put to rest.  The
original birth certificate must be available for verification and the record
un-sealed in Hawaii. What is he hiding?  The
[socialist democrats} have proven them selves to be liars and they can not be
trusted

The question of the deaths of the young men in Chicago must
be answered. Larry Sinclair affidavit   to the Chicago police Department should be
verified as true or false. If it is false then Mr. Sinclair must be jailed for
perjury ,if it true then Obama has some serious problems in Chicago that must
be explained before he is worthy  to run
for reelection. 

“I just heard from Larry Sinclair. Sinclair has confirmation of receipt and
Sinclair’s attorney, Mr. Sibley, has been contacted by a Chicago Police
detective requesting that Sinclair or Sibley speak to him. Larry Sinclair
alleges a drug and gay sex encounter with Obama in November 1999 and also
alleges that Donald Young contacted him shortly before he was murdered. The
following is from Larry Sinclair’s blog:|”

“On April 1, 2008 I sent via fax a notarize affidavit to the Chicago Police
Department concerning communications between myself and the murdered Choir
Director, Donald Young of Trinity United Christian Church, in Chicago, IL. This
came from Citizen Wells News. The actual affidavit is available on line.

The Globe, Norma Jean Young, the 76-year old mother of the late Trinity
United Church of Christ choir director Donald Young, has spoken out and
declared that persons trying to protect Obama murdered her son at the height of
the 2007 Democratic presidential primary to protect Obama from embarrassing
revelations about his homosexual relationship with her son. Donald Young’s
bullet-ridden body was found in his Chicago apartment on December 23, 2007, in
what appeared to be an assassination-style slaying.

So?

Does it not occur to Mr. Cain that maybe the people of color have not been brainwashed?  That they have considered voting for him, but decided against it because it was not in their own economic best interest to do so?  He is not going to win anyone over by insulting them and trying to shame them into voting for him simply because they are of the same race.  It takes a little more than that.

I wish Lawrence would show comparisons of what the taxes affected by the Bush tax cuts USED to be (especially under Reagan), with what they are now.  Then people would see that 5% is really no big deal to that 1%, and that they are being scammed into thinking it IS a big deal to them.  It’s not like they can actually admit that everything is tilted at a very high angle, in their favor.  In case no one has noticed, those companies that are making record profits because they have gotten out of paying corporate taxes, haven’t created any jobs, like we have been told over and over, that they would.

Set aside the partisan arguing, and look at it with simple common sense.

No, Lawrence O’Donnell did not serve in the military. He became draft-eligible in 1969 and hid from the Vietnam War by remaining an undergraduate at Harvard College until 1976. SEVEN YEARS to get that bachelor’s degree, during the height of fighting, and still O’Donnell has the nerve to accuse Herman Cain of avoiding service.

I know what I meant that Obama has been President, and Cain has not; true or false?

Can you read the polls. A bum on the street will beat Obama and do a better job. Do no be delusional. Face the fact. Cain will take it all and free our Afro-American brothers and lead them out of the democratic plantations to the free land of opportunity.

Cain /Rubio  2012the liberal night mare ticket.

These were some horrible questions asked by Lawrence to Herb.  Sorry, but that’s the type of stuff that gives journalism a bad name.  Let’s have some real questions here.  Ask him about his lack of experience, what positions he stands on, but don’t ask him these forced gotcha questions.

Herman Cain did not serve in an “auxiliary” or reserve component of any armed service. Cain was a civilian employee, a civil servant, in the employ of the Department of the Navy, where he worked in “ballistics”, the science of making missiles, bullets, and other projectiles fly farther and more true. Such work was deemed critical to national security, and he was exempted from the draft. Still he made himself available for the draft. That he was not drafted, and did not enlist in that then-unpopular war, does nothing to impugn the character of Herman Cain.

Lawrence O’Donnell, on the other hand, hid out from the draft from 1969 to 1976 as an undergraduate at Harvard College. He spent seven years to collect that sheepskin, did not enlist himself, and has the nerve to call Cain a draft dodger.

Fact: It’s hard to decipher what you have posted
since you must be printing what you’re saying with a mouth full of ball sacks!

That last part was for NDanielson or whatever.  The one that has a picture of his mom crossed out.

You are right, they don’t treat Obama like that in interviews.  They just attack him in commercials, and when he’s not around.

I think Lawrence just asked stupid questions.  He did it to himself.  He was going to irrelevant and borderline offensive.  It makes me think less of O’Donnell as a person after seeing this.

Because he’s not afraid of how he’s going to look.  He just wants to say what’s on his mind.  I think the Cain Train will run out of stram, but he is better than Bachmann and Perry.

I don’t know how anyone could be more black than Herman Cain. He went to segregated public schools in Atlanta. His parents had classic poor black-folks’ jobs for their era (chauffeur and cleaning lady). He sure does talk “black”, and he’s a graduate of Morehouse College, for goodness sake. Morehouse and Howard are like neck-and-neck for the title of THE historically-great black college. Herman Cain’s not black enough?!? (Especially when compared to Barack Obama.) Does he need to go to jail or something?

Yes, but according to polls, most Americans detest the experience that Barack Obama has accumulated over those three years as President. Doesn’t seem like a plus to me.

Tommy calm down, Al is under contract, but if I were an African American activist, I would tell Lawrence O’Donnell that his questions pushed the envelope of hard hitting journalism to borderline racially diminishing terms.  He didn’t call him the N-Word but he did try to make it seem that Cain should be grateful to the government for giving him those rights when if you think about it in retrospectly, those should be entitled rights anyways.  I don’t usually side with Herman Cain, but in this instance, I was even offended by the tone of Lawrence O’Donnell.  This was despicable. 

Would someone please ask this clown about his “opinion” concerning the low/high tide?

Scary sh!t!

Michelle Obama got in her own pot of hot water during the campaign when she said something similar, about voting for Obama. 

 In an interview with MSNBC’s Mika Brzezinski, she said she believes that soon the straggling blacks will “wake up and get it.”

http://www.npr.org/blogs/visibleman/2007/11/michelle_obama_and_the_slumber.html

There are many who have examined and questioned why blacks, by a large majority, vote Democrat, despite their conservative beliefs.

That is a racist statement.

LARRY: Are you saying that 81 percent of Americans are brainwashed?

HERB: Yes, I am.

lol…yeah, Cain really nailed it.

No Sir. I don’t even know what that means or how it would be done. I’m just a lowly commentor. What do you mean by screwing with your account ?

LARRY: Are you saying that 81 percent of Americans are brainwashed?

HERB: Yes, I am.

lol…yeah, Cain really nailed it.

“I WOULDA MARCHED IN SELMA, LAWRENCE, BUT MAH COUSIN HAD THE FLU! NEXT QUESTION!”

“THEY BEGGED ME NOT TO ENLIST, LAWRENCE, CUZ I WAS JUST TO VALUABLE! NEXT QUESTION!

Crackers !!  Cheetos !! Mountain Dew !!  Tollbooth !!

Robert an Attorney ??  Baulderdash !!  
He works at Home Depot watering plants and gathering stray shopping carts !!

Cracker !!

I don’t see Barack Obama on that list, so I submitted his name.

And Obama. Don’t forget warmongering Obama.

I thought poles were for strippers?

Lyodd…Er Sharpo whatever

Hey, when did Obama serve?

 A flat tax screws the poor.

The people who made their wealth in America and can afford to pay more. should!

I don’t even like Herman Cain, but you are 400% right. This was a shameless hack job.

Or the D after anyone you dislike. Can you name some Democrats that you like or supported?

That he has!

I have. No help so far.

Gee thanks Tex. I know I can always count on your support.

Fact: Take the balls out of your mouth and suprise you don’t have to scream post!

Step and Fetch it. 

Actually, I was not yet born at that time.  However, If I had been, I would have been helping Cain tend to his sick relative.

Fact: Ask ar rodent and they say global warming, climate change or Bush!

Cain is right about taxation. The problem is slow economic growth and too much government spending. He also stated he was grateful to Rosa Parks and to the passage of the civil rights and voting rights legislation, which he pointed out were supported by a larger percentage of Republicans than Democrats. Larry O’Donnell’s demeanor is a window into the terror Democrats are feeling over their prospects in 2012.

Just what we need a military leader .ie:Fidal Castro, Idi Amin, Sani Abacha, Muammar al-Gaddafi, Gamal Abdul Nasser ,.Saddam Hussein’, Alexander Lukashenko, Hosni Mubarak, Idi Amin, Napoleon Bonaparte, Julius Caesar, Nicolae Ceaușescu, Francisco Franco, Muammar Gaddafi, Mao Zedong, Kim Jong-il, Ferdinand Marcos, Robert Mugabe, Manuel Noriega, Augusto Pinochet, Pol Pot, Joseph Stalin, António de Oliveira Salazar, Mengistu Haile Mariam, Suharto, Adolf Hitler and Benito Mussolini.

 All of these worked out so well.

I don’t know about asking any of the GOP persons running about lack of experience.  Just look at the non-experience of the person sitting in the WH now.

Petty and childish. Someone doesn’t like the open forum so they resort to tricks.

Fact: I couldn’t write a post that made sense if I tried!

Racist.

Far left socialist?

If you wanted to sound like a delusional far right dingbat, you definitely succeeded. Congrats. 

Racist.

Wasn’t he on the wait staff at a Howard Dean dinner?

And what was Obama’s experience?

Um, you’re oversimplifying things, dude. O’Donnell says that we’re ALL socialists, because Americans overwhelmingly support socialist programs like social security and medicare and student loans and military pensions and the like.

You fail.

And what do you base this on, other than a knee jerk assumption?

Radical Muslims. No different than radical Christians or Jews. Religion  is their banner.

Repulicans are against raising taxes, but a national sales tax is ok?

Herman Cain IS NOT a lying Democrat and that confuses the hell out of O’Donnell. Being a real, honest-to-God racist, O’Donnell has pre-determined what black people should have done, should do now, should say and should think.

impeccable discernment.

If it were kneejerk you and others would have considered it.

Why didn’t Lawrence O’Donnell ask questions to Obama like that?

I guess you haven’t seen Jimmy Jr. backpedalling on every issue.

Whenever he was not blaming Bush.

BLACKS CAN’T BE RACIST

Just Google that and you’ll see.

Last time I looked Herman Cain was about 50% more BLACK than Jimmy Jr.

So, he can not be racist.

Okay, you’ve outed yourself as a Kos Kid. 

You can go back now…

when you are skank? 

Go back to Kos, loser.

Jackson Lee insinuated the National Hurricane Center was racist because hurricane names aren’t ethnic enough.

lol  There’s a difference between a warmonger and defending the country. And Obama is my age and I don’t recall a draft at the time. You need to look at the definition of  a chickenhawk. His name will get laughed right off the list.   If he fits the defintion fine, but obviously he won’t. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTAqUwYHnec   Nice try though.

And just as people of the Southern States got to see the evil of the Democratic Party, so there is hope that eventually the presently brainwashed black people – aptly and accurately so described by future President, Herman Cain – will realize and own up to and correct their mistake of supporting the Democrats, whose only ambition is to hold African Americans on their plantation forever. 

It’s Gorebal warming.  And it too, is a hoax.

lol  There’s a difference between being a warmonger and defending the country or another for imminent humanitarian reasons. Obama is my age and I don’t recall a draft at the time?  His name will get laughed right off the list. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTAqUwYHnec  nice try though.

I agrree with you 100%. O’donnell is a total hypocrit for that stunt.

Nothing illustrates the stupidity/hypocrisy/desperation of the Left more than O’Donnell’s sick attempt to label Herman Cain as someone who “avoided” military service.

O’Donnell is too thick to realize that the United States Navy told Cain that his service as a mathematician was more, or at least as valuable as any service in uniform on the front lines of battle might have been.   

B_F_D, you are nothing but a worthless, slimy, slippery slug.

Typing out misquotes all in capitals does not change that fact.

Which war were we in at the time?

problem with that is that you would go in as a tight end and come out as a wide receiver.  Boy.

I don’t think he is a racist but a total hypocrit.

agree.

Bring on the next civil war…Conservatives  vs Liberals..It’ll be over in a week
I HATE LIBERALISM

No, Whopper. I had a consistent approach. I was for the overthrow of the Taliban which had given Bin Laden, the mastermind behind the 9/11 bombings and the liberation of Afghanistan and against the invasion and occupation of Iraq, a country and regime which had nothing to do with 9/11.

You!

If anyone were screw with anybody else’s account, they would pick a worthy opponent, not a whining, crying, bawling sorry piece of garbage like you.

Paranoid much?

But which was it? Did the Navy and his Draft Board, as he said, advise Cain not to enlist or did Cain “submit” to the draft lottery and draw a high number. It can’t be both. If he submitted to the lottery and drew a high number he would not have had the degree of involvement with his Draft Board he indicated. Which was it? Again, which was it? 

Careful there…You’re the one who keeps asking about his ‘swa’…over and over and over. Is THAT not true? Me thinks you have an unhealthy obsession with SWA’s…lol

You may be too optimistic. Especially when it comes to the question of military service, conservatives love a disingenuous and poorly performed two step. They find it entertaining. I offer Big D*ck Cheney as Exhibit 1. 

Likely, his decline.

That’s like saying that pizza has no chance of being or becoming anybody’s favorite fast food.

Or even more to the point and more accurately, good food, fast.

At least people can get nourishment from and eat pizza.

Try that with ‘communist organization’.

Ooooops, we tried.

Looks like you got an affirmative answer.

I watched this last night…. DID YOU?……..cain answered this question……..and L o’D looked like he sallowed a big fat TURD after hearing it……Herman Cain Increased greatly in my admiration after this interview…..he deserves a serious look…..not an automaticic dismissal

This from the huge liar who says I’ve posted under more than one name (save and except “King” morphed into “Emperor” in the Victorian fashion) here but who lacks the guts to check it out. Be gone, liar.

You can get help for that, you know.

Who submitted himself to the draft lottery, drew a high number but whose Draft Board told him to continue what he was doing. Yes, that’s consistent. Well, you do have very little standards for truth and veracity.

I noticed your very clearly RACIST reference to those who disagree with Jimmy Jr.’s policies as “CRACKERS”.

Kind of makes the long-painted-over word on a rock that 320,999,999 people will never see, and would have never heard of if it had not been for the Washington Post being Jimmy Jr.’s slavish voice, forgivable and forgettable. 

agree with you regarding the draft
Admire John McCaine for his service to the country.
But he didn’t put country before Presidency when he asked Sarah Palin to be his running mate. I’m not being sarcastic either. 

No, Madame de l’Idiot, I did ROTC for undergraduate and law school and went USN JAG. If you have a problem with that go embrace a draft dodger like Big D*ck Cheney.

The Left wants equality.

So, let there be an EQUAL percentage of tax everyone pays. Millionaire or laborer. You know, SAME percentage.

Oh, please.  I read your stuff on Olbermann Watch.

You’d shriek “traitor” at your grandmother if you thought it would make a political point.

You’re unprincipled and a mediocre in thinking.

You fool no one.

Weak response…  seen better from you. 

Gee Yukon. I don’t believe I have ever giving you any crap or insluted you in anyway . I has never mentioned you. So, Why are you acting like an ASSHOLE? Is this just your nature or have you aready started drinking your Jack this morning?,Jack(Ass)

He has a plethora of identities.

Of course we all know that.

agree with you on the draft
Admire and respect McCaine for his service to the country but he put his Presidency before country when he selected Sarah Palin as his running mate. Not being sarcastic at all.

All rich people (except, of course the few like Democrats like the Kennedy’s who inherited or John Kerry who pimped and gigoloed his way to riches) were once poor.

Heard about Steve Jobs? Bill Gates?

Or for that matter the pimp and supporter of anything and everything anti-American, Gyorgy Soros, the Hungarian Jew who made his fortune by ruining everything in his path, including his fellow Jews.

I think you have him beat.

Why?

Based on your posts here I doubt you would EVER get a raise in pay on your own merit, but if you ever did, would you give up what you gained?

Seriously Tea Party people.  Stop running to the biggest jack ass who makes idiotic statements.  I’m embarrassed for you as Americans.

Well Said.

SO  WHAT,,,HE HAD BETTER THINGS TO DO….LIKE EDUCATE HIS BRAIN.

Who cares how black someone is?.It is insane. Do you judge someone by the color of their eyes as well?

racist

really classy comeback…………I love when someone gets  their words thrown back in their face…….the insults start spewing forth…..

Why did you lie?

Hey Laura, your points are good to consider.  Cain is referring to people who voted Democrat and Obama simply because Obama is black.  During his campaign, I was a newspaper publisher.  Many in my own industry voted for him like lemmings.  I was almost branded a pariah when I simply wanted to ask questions about Obama’s past, lack of executive experience, etc.  People just suspended any critical thinking.

Cain is referring to so many blacks who have suspended any critical thinking so badly, that they take on a mob mentality when a black deigns to think differently.  Guys like Clarence Thomas, Herman Cain, Thomas Sowell, end up being public punching bags.  Allen West and Herman Cain are fearlessly fighting back.

Your points are good ones.  Congrats for critically thinking about it.

Finally we have a very intelligent man,  Mr. Cain, who is trying to fix this mess the county is in, and just because he is rising in the polls, he will now be picked apart by the Media who will try and discredit him by bringing up ancient history that has NOTHING to do with our problems today.  If you people are looking for a SAINT, who has been perfect his whole life,,then you will be disappointed.   Show me one PRESIDENT  who was perfect…for that matter, show me ONE PERSON ANYWHERE  who is perfect.
There is no such person…that is why really smart people WILL NOT RUN FOR PRESIDENT, because the biased media will certainly rip him to shreds…  DO  NOT PAY ATTENTION TO THE MEDIA.
Especially  the  LIBERAL DEMOCRATIC MEDIA,,,LIKE  CBS,  NBC,,ABC….

“If you watch keith olbermann on current tv, youuuuuuu might be an olbyloon!”

h/t jeff foxworthy ;)

“If you watch keith olbermann on current tv, youuuuuuu might be an olbyloon!”

h/t jeff foxworthy ;)

Obama, still could have inlisted…but he didn’t

Mike Huckabee,Henry Kissinger,Tom Ridge,Grover Norquist,Tim Pawlenty are not serious. They all appeared on The Cobert Report in 2011

Mike Huckabee,Henry Kissinger,Tom Ridge,Grover Norquist,Tim Pawlenty are not serious. They all appeared on The Cobert Report in 2011

I can’t believe the number of fools that liked this comment.  Shame on all.

My family has shared our dinner table with AA’s since I was a little girl, long before the Selma march. And, we have  Herman Cain being honest about participation with the movement and then there’s Barack Obama lying about his parents participation in it.  He claimed the March on Selma was what was responsible for his birth.  Except the march ocurred on March 7, 1965 and BO was born August 4, 1961 a liar.

And stupid Lawrence pointed out Kerry as the role model for Cain because he “enlisted”. Wow.

Kerry enlisted because he was graduating and his number was up. He wanted to go in as an officer. He came back after four months with very suspicious wounds to garner three purple hearts. But then he went on to throw his (or someone’s) medals over the White House fence. He testified before Congress and slimed his fellow soldiers and called them baby killers. The soldiers were still in battle and Kerry further endangered them. Kerry marched against them.

Cain was a civil servant of the Navy formulating ballistics to help our soldiers. His draft number was not called.

LOD thinks Kerry was fine to be CIC and Cain is not.

Lawrence O’Donnell is now certified crazy. I will never watch him again. I clicked out with the Vietnam grilling of Cain and will never tune back in.

Asking the pizza man to explain his ridiculous statements is “gotcha”? I know it isn’t how right wingers are treated at Faux “News” but it is really quite reasonable to ask a candidate just what he meant about the idiotic statements he has made. 

Hermy is trying to sell books just like the other t-bagger wh0re Palin

Asking the pizza man to explain his ridiculous statements is “gotcha”? I know it isn’t how right wingers are treated at Faux “News” but it is really quite reasonable to ask a candidate just what he meant about the idiotic statements he has made. 

Hermy is trying to sell books just like the other t-bagger wh0re Palin

Lack of Ecperience???  Go read his book…Hermain Cain has way more life experiences and WAY more 
real accomplishments then Obama could even hope for.  Name one thing Obama did.  He never even held a real job for crying out loud… People who voted for him were just being  ”kind”  and wanted to be modern  and thinking a 1/2 black guy with a nice smile would perform miracles..and boy oh boy were they ever wrong…

Thanks for the research. Somehow, I suspected something like that. LOD is slime and now certified crazy. I tuned out at the Vietnam grilling of Cain and will never tune back in to LOD.

Apparently many, many liberals care how “black” Herman Cain is, because they spend an awful lot of time trying to convince us he’s not black enough, whatever that means. I got some news for you: Herman Cain is black. And some other news: It doesn’t mean anything — Herman Cain is gaining traction because he’s a real leader.

shame on you ,,,you are for sure a racist.

But just imagine a reversed world for a moment where homosexuality was the majority. Could you simply turn off your feelings of heterosexuality?

Why do people keep saying,,”he has no chance of winning the  nomination”  ??
I’m a white woman,,,and I’d vote for Herman Cain in a heart beat…besides…all the people I’ve talked to all agree with me,,,even my liberal brother in California,,thinks he is pretty darn smart…so   all you 
nay sayers out there will sure be surprised when he wins.

You went to which law school, inspector gadget? ROFL!

No. LOD has also said: “I am a socialist.” You are the one who fails.

I don’t know the inner workings of the Draft Board and/or its interaction with the United States Navy, but I would think that if Herman Cain’s services as a mathematician (hardly equivalent to a grunt, at least education-wise) was more valuable to the Navy than if he had been drafted,  I would think that the Navy would have asked the Draft Board to exempt Cain from the draft.

Just my guess, I may be wrong.

Herman Cain, like all republican’t idiots has others do the hard work (like Rosa Parks, Dr. King, the minimum wage slave wages at Godfathers Pizza, etc.) while they reap the rewards.

Maybe the discussion with the Navy ocurred before the draw.  If Cain drew a high number, end of story.

And Lallen422 you should quit being a bigot

Yeah, that is my nature. I can’t stand whining, crying immature babies of any stripe. But I must confess that I have a special dislike for liberal ones.

No different from your many disparaging posts about Republicans who never ‘mentioned’ you.

Learn a bit of fairness and start watching FOX.

If you wouldn’t steal from your employer you wouldn’t get fired.

Cheney served this country as Secretary of Defense through Gulf 1 putting him miles ahead of both Obama and Biden.

One other thought…. Mr. Cain is the PERFECT EXAMPLE  and MENTOR for young black folks today.
He grew up poor…with both a mother and A FATHER,  who worked 3 jobs…and taught them right from wrong…He educated himself,,,today they call that “ACTING WHITE”   He EARNED  his respect and success  ,,,  NO ONE GAVE IT TO HIM.   He actually has ideas on how to help this country,,and  I 
am thrilled that he isn’t the usual  POLITICIAN…  GO HERMAN… 

NewsBusters: MSNBC’s O’Donnell Shamelessly Tries to Paint Herman Cain — Who Worked for Navy Dept. — As Draft-dodger
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2011/10/07/herman-cain-asks-msnbcs-odonnell-do-you-stay-night-come-wording-these

This is too funny, you, a liberal, are on Mediate asking questions about Romney’s religion.  Ok boys and girls, step right up here and inform BHorizons what it is about the Mormon religion that you all so detest.

Royal King…BFD….Valkrie…any of the rest of you lefties that have attacked the Mormorn faith care to step forward and answer BHorizons questions?  or admit that all that past nastiness toward that faith was just to attack Michelle.

It’s  been 12 hours since BHorizons asked the questions, what were you waiting for?

Why is the GOP pushing this Uncle Tom on me?

Shorter O’Donnell: Cain’s an Uncle Tom.

Why not just say that, Lawrence?

he didn’t do much of anything. 

You need to look at the definition. #1 – “If there is no draft, and the nation is at peace, the individual becomes a Common Chickenhawk.”

Not only is Obama a chickenhawk, but he started his very own war, and 2000 troops have died under his command.

Obama is a little older than I am and I managed to serve.

Of course, they won’t put him on the list, but that’s because they’re dishonest. Are you?

Sorry Bastardo, I’m not here to entertain your ass! If you don’t want the truth, don’t ask for it!

Mean? No. Tough, yes. 

That means it’s been taken over by the stupid. I rest my case! LOL.

And what exactly have YOU done.???  Cain got jobs for people…did you????

Your comment was dumb the first time, don’t treat us to anymore of it.

Ike,Ford,Rockefeller,Senators Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins of Maine,former Senator Lincoln Chafee of Rhode Island for examle are reasonable republicans who I respect.  Now, your turn.

I’m a white lady,,and  I need you to explain to me what Blacks mean when they call someone 
“Uncle Tom”   Is it because he works for a living???  Gets an education…??  Is married before he is a father and raises them..???  Belongs to a church and has a belief in God???  What is it…??  I never understood it.   Is it because he trys to better himself and refuses to think of himself as a “VICTIM”
and to live off welfare???   Do tell.

The fact that there is a CONGRESSIONAL BLACK CAUCUS, where no whites, Hispanics or Natives need to apply is the best proof that the worst racists are its members and those they claim to represent.

They would be crying like stuck pigs is there ever was to be a Congressional Blonde Caucus or a Congressional White Caucus.

SHAME ON  MSNBC  AND ALL THE OTHER LIBERAL STATIONS THAT WILL UNDOUBTEDLY TRY AND MAKE HERMAN CAIN TO BE SOMETHING OTHER THEN A GOOD AND DECENT MAN.

I guess you are not a player in the NBA or NFL.

Didn’t he hook up with that Garafalo/Gore team and all are lying happily ever after?  When Roseanne Barr joins up they will be in……utopia, lol

Who cares that his skin is a little darker then mine,,,It is his  BRAIN that is important here,,,
I don’t care if he is purple with green stripes…the man is a genius  and he has the  ”gimme more”
liberal democrats running scared….GO HERMAN

Who cares that his skin is a little darker then mine,,,It is his  BRAIN that is important here,,,
I don’t care if he is purple with green stripes…the man is a genius  and he has the  ”gimme more”
liberal democrats running scared….GO HERMAN

I pay my taxes and don’t bitch about it. Even though I don’t like the way the goverment spends it on war.

In his Selma speech he challenged America not to tell hem he didn’t “have a claim in Selma.”  Insinuating that his parents conceived Barry during that time in Selma while they were there for the march in 1965.  Problem with his story was he was born in 1961.

No pass, he interjected himself to make points with the Selma speech audience and all others that heard it and   lied to make his case.

I watch Fox too.

WOW…. driving the left CUH-RAY-ZEEEEE….   

HERMAN F###ING CAIN!!

Quite an assnine contribution, you 12?

O’Donnell has said that he is a socialist.  There’s no doubt that he’s far left; if you don’t see him as far left, that would mean you are quite out there yourself.

News flash if homosexuality was the norm, the species would end! High school health class must have really been hard on you?!?

Don’t worry, the effort it takes to be that narrow minded is to much for them. He and his brethren will move on to the next pointless issue soon enough.

I didn’t say it was did I?
The studies are readily available for anyone willing to do some homework. What isn’t out there is any credible evidence that homosexuality is a choice. That makes one opinion based in science , and one based on cultural and religious misconceptions. Not exactly equal.

Ignorance is unavoidable, stupidity is a choice! Clearly your comfortable with your choice…

Words hurt and words have meanings. Regardless of skin color.

Keep that in mind!

How So? Cain said he believed homosexuality was a choice, which all credible studies indicate is not the case. What exactly is he basing his opinion on? It’s easy to say, “I have a right to my opinion” but not all opinions are equal.

Would you use the equivalent but opposite slur addressing an African American person??

Hey Larry, Your racism is showing!

Don’t like it that a black man left your lefty plantation?  Aww.  Too bad!

Herman Cain for President!

I bet Obama can’t make a pizza!

The majority of the world once supported slavery and the subjugation of women. There is no moral weight to “the majority thinks this way” Eventually the human race has to grow up.

There are a lot of credible studies that indicate homosexuality is not a choice and those are readily available to anyone concerned with the truth. There are none indicating it is a choice of life style. Those are the facts of reality and can only be denied for so long.  You can cling to outdated religious and cultural beliefs as hard as you like but eventually those beliefs will be looked at as tragic mistakes and the injustice of an earlier culture, just as so many others are now.

Who gets to label what choices are deviant and debauchery and sinful?  We used to think interracial marriage was sinful and against nature. we used to justify slavery, and then segregation, rather than embrace diversity. Woman’s role as submissive and obedient to men has changed as society has grown up and left outdated incorrect concepts behind.
The prejudice and bigotry against the small % of human kind that are attracted to their own gender is based in religious and cultural brainwashing that we need to grow out of.

It is so refreshing to see a presidential candidate take the hard left wing media on like this.  Cain didn’t back down for a second.  He didn’t cow-tow to the hyperbole and go all politically correct trying to justify or back track his statements.  

Calling 81% of the people brainwashed is calling a spade a spade.  If they believe such a stupid thing, then call it what it is.

Herman Cain is EXACTLY the kind of LEADER we need in a LEADERSHIP position.

Typical liberal bull squeeze. Herman went to school, got a great education, stayed out of trouble, and became a great American success story. I say he led by example, which is what natural leaders do. And for any libtards that want to challenge him on numbers, check out his background, he has a degree in mathematics.

Keep your sexual life private as I do mine and I promise you that I will
not force my lifestyle on you. Why can’t you offer me the same courtesy?

Nobody is interested in forcing their lifestyle on you. What people are interested in is equality, justice, and fair treatment, which has been denied them for decades. A hetero man or woman have long been free to walk along the street and hold hands or exchange a kiss is public without being mocked, ridiculed, hated, or beaten. Not so for our gay population. The idea that being gay is sick, and perverted has been so ingrained in our society in such a way that it has been the source of a lot of suffering by a lot of people. You can’t defend it by watering it down to an argument that amounts to , “just stay in the closet”
That’s dangerously close to “I have nothing against those people, as long as they know their place”

You can not make a wrong, right, or abnormal, normal, just because you desire it to be so.

  And you don’t get to declare what is wrong and abnormal based on your personal preferences and cultural or religious influences. These same false arguments were made against every social advance we’ve fought for and won as a society, and as humanities quest for basic human rights. Being gay may be a small % of our population but it is no more wrong or abnormal than red hair or hazel eyes.

The question that is important is it right for this hand full of loud
mouth bullies to force others to accept a life style that runs counter
to human nature and the beliefs of the majority.

I’m really flabbergasted that anyone could look at the history or equality and civil rights in this country and still make this argument. It is intellectually dishonest. It’s a failed attempt to justify clinging to outdated cultural and religious prejudices.  We’ve already done this several times. Why do people think this argument is still valid.
Suddenly it is the people who have been unfairly and inhumanly demonized and bullied for decades who become the bullies for no longer being willing to accept the bullying of others, and the denial of their equality?  Take a closer look at our founding principles.

They have the same rights as all other Americans.

No they don’t, although progress has been made.

Do not let them make you feel guilty you are with the majority.Speak up and tell them to live their life and keep their sexual preference out of public policy.

How do you suppose civil rights and equality has been won in this country. It’s by those not accepting the status quo and challenging the beliefs of the majority. It’s an integral part of how society and humankind grows up. This is no difference and those still living in denial will eventually be shown that’s true, even if they are the majority now. {and I have some serious doubts about that}
As long as public policy is prejudiced against them and denies them equality specifically because of their sexual preference, they have every right to fight against it and will continue to win support as ignorance and prejudice is dispelled.

O’Donnell is everything that is wrong with the media. He’s an embarrassment.

@Toasts6562 — I didn’t say homosexuality was the norm. I said to imagine if it were and put yourself in that position as a heterosexual person. I suggest that reading comprehension in general must be hard for you.

@Toasts6562 — I didn’t say homosexuality was the norm. I said to imagine if it were and put yourself in that position as a heterosexual person. I suggest that reading comprehension in general must be hard for you.

As a Christian, I follow the Bible.  God condems homosexuality in both the Old and the New Testament.  God would not create a child that he knows will not be in heaven.

O’Donnell was slapped down by Herman Cain.  O’Donnell is a racist to the nth degree.  That man is a sorry excuse for a human being.  He is a low life always trying to screw our great nation.  What an offensive bottom feeder is this idiot.

Oreo/Coconut 2012!

Watch Prog heads explode.

No. I do not insult unless insulted first. Don’t care how your politics are . Left wing,Right wing, Up wing ,Down wing. Don’t care. Opinions are like …..You know the rest. When I get attached I push back!
I have made friends with purveyor and Tatboy as well as others on the right. Just trying not to make it about which side your on. It makes for a better open forum.Don’t you agree?

O’Donnell and M.S.N.B.C. are the most hateful,vile,and disgraceful people in all of cable.This shows clearly that M.S.N.B.C.works for Obama and the Democratic party as a propaganda network and not a real news network.

“We weren’t thinking of the Negroes in Mississippi or Alabama
– what should be done for them. We were thinking of what needed to be done in
Massachusetts.”

- Robert F. Kennedy, 4 December 1964, interview with Anthony Lewis

LOD prays at the shrine to RFK.

JFK voted AGAINST Eisenhower’s Civil Rights Act of 1957.

LOD prays at the shrine of JFK.

O’Donnell is a racist for being mean to Cain. We all need to kiss the ass of any black politician and agree with everything or else we are all racists

Black Repubs are always treated like second class citizens by Dems.

Queers are just Queer. It’s not their fault!

Queers are just  well Queer. Why must they flaunt themselves on other people. Haven’t you seen their stupid parades the these A&^%holes dressed up like well “Queer”.
SEND THEM ALL TO UGANDA OR IRAQ.  See ow fast they turn hetro

Guy or Girl???

Guy or Girl???

Rosa Parks refusal to give up her seat was in 1955 when Cain was about 10 years od

O’Donnell wanted minor Cain to disobey his dad in order to be “black enough”

Liberalism is a mental disease.

Yeah, but he can use taxpayer dollars to fly his favourite pizza chef in from Chicago to make it for him.

Take that!

:-)

Gay, you moron, is a lifestyle  And yes it’s a choice.

Homosexuality is a symptoom of an underlining mental/emotional disorder

Logic and reason dictate that “rights’ based on your sexual desires is irrational .

Sceince dictates that homosexual behaviours do not add to the survival of a species, therefore an abberation of it.

Oppostion to homosexuality is not based on “religion” or “scriptures”. It’s based on the obvious.

She’s NOT  a gentlewoman. She’s as crazy as a SHITHOUSE RAT  !!

May I repeat myself ” She’s as CRAZY AS A SHITHOUSE RAT  !!!

WHAT???

Larry wasn’t marching with gays either.
What’s your point?  Was every black supposed to march?  Those who didn’t are lesser people?  Harry Reid didn’t march with the Tea Party.

 
The real story here is how  O’Donnell has this racist stereotype view of what a proper black should have been doing in the 60′s.

Which one? Cain is the one that said black people were brain washed into voting democratic. If a white man had said that he would be crucified by you tea-baggers.

What is it with your obsession with balls in your mouth? Do you think about that a lot?

No, I’m not.  I’m an Industrial Security Rep for the third largest offense contractor in Amerika. B.S. in Criminal Justice from a private lutheran university in thousand oaks.  If I were a little faster I probably could’ve gone to a 1-AA or 1-A school and probably to the league. But I realized that was a freaking pipe dream, so I tossed myself into my studies and I have a nice life now

What the hell is ecperience?

O’Donnell is a pap smear.  

Wheres the NAACP? Why can a Republican black man be attacked and no one seems to care (Remember Clarence Thomas?) Just because he did not participate in civil rights marches, as I am sure millions of other blacks did not, doesnt make him any less African-American (what am I missing here?) They tried to say Obammy’s father was at the Selma march, but I dont think it panned out. AND, why does the coversation at MSNBC always turn to homosexuality?? Did Rachel Maddow make everyone take a diversity class?

Just quoting the Emperor !! Where were YOU when he used it as a real slur ??

This is to Texan.  This red neck tried to imply that I steal from my job. Well, the only thing that I would ever be accused of stealing would be your wife’s ass

Logic and reason dictate that “rights’ based on your sexual desires is irrational .

  Stop abusing the terms.
Rights AKA equality, isn’t based on race, gender, or sexual preferences. They are based on our common humanity.

Oppostion to homosexuality is not based on “religion” or “scriptures”. It’s based on the obvious.

  it’s based on ingrained cultural and religious misconceptions passed on generation to generation just like prejudice against other races, or against women. In the case of homosexuality, religion has a lot to do with it. 

Science dictates that homosexual behaviours do not add to the survival of a species, therefore an abberation of it.

Neither do BJ’s but we don’t deny people equality for enjoying them. Science dictates that homosexuality occurs naturally in a small % of humanity. Nobody should be demonized for that.

You hope to discredit the obvious by discrediting the things others can’t prove.
That’s a sign of a diseased illogical mind at work

I hope to encourage people to support equality , science , and reason, over irrational baseless fears and bigotry.
 

Odonnell is a total piece of shit

Odonnell is pissing in his pants because he and all his liberal ilk know NOVEMBER IS COMING

On December 1, 1955 in Montgomery, Alabama, Parks, age 42, refused to obey bus driver James Blake’s order that she give up her seat to make room for a white passenger.  The Voting Rights Act passed in 1964.  By the time Cain entered college, sit-ins had been replaced by legislative action.  Shame on O’Donnell.

On December 1, 1955 in Montgomery, Alabama, Parks, age 42, refused to
obey bus driver James Blake’s order that she give up her seat to make
room for a white passenger.  The Voting Rights Act passed in 1964.  By
the time Cain entered college, sit-ins had been replaced by legislative
action.  Shame on O’Donnell.

Doesn’t have to be genetic not to be a choice.  Have you not heard of epigenetic neural development?  At any rate, the question is a legitimate one, raising the genetics issue simply begs it, and I have never heard a con give a reasonable respond to it. 

Good for Herman! Smack down that vile confessed socialist. I don’t know why we let him work in America. Cain has a solid plan and time to go the right direction.

“What happened in Selma, Alabama and Birmingham also
stirred the conscience of the nation…This young man named Barack Obama…came
over to this country. He met this woman…(who) had a good idea there was some
craziness going on because they looked at each other and they decided…it
might…be possible for us to get together and have a child. There was
something stirring across the country because of what HAPPENED (PAST TENSE) in
Selma, Alabama… So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born. So don’t
tell me I don’t have a claim on Selma, Alabama. Don’t tell me I’m not coming
home to Selma, Alabama.”

-         
Barack Obama

 
Neat trick considering the first Selma march happened 4 years after Barack Obama was born.  I understand that Stanley and Barack, Sr., conceived Barry in the Delorean on the way to pick up McFly, Doc Brown, and Biff.

The definition of a Chickenhawk is best described in this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTAqUwYHnec. What war did Obama start? Not Libya because that was a U.N. mandate and we were acting with NATO. Not one U.S. casualty. Yes, I am dissapointed that Obama increased troops in Afghanistan. Had W. stayed in Tora Bora until we got bin Laden instead of going into the wrong country we probably would’nt be discussing this today. W should have listened H.W. who I consider one of the best Republican presidents and a WWII veteran like my father to boot.

And thank you for your service by the way.

Thank you Pablo for your service by the way.

About what?

Cain may have an opinion about homosexuality but I am guessing he would not endorse some of the rather astonishing homophobic comments here. I don’t believe many choose homosexuality but even if they do, why do you care? How does it affect you? And do any of you honestly think mankind will suddenly stop producing children?

Being gay is definitely a lifestyle choice. And there is nothing wrong with it. No, a person does not choose to be straight anymore than any mammal chooses to pursue the opposite sex for procreation. And the dolphin argument holds no water. There have been limited cases of same-sex mating activity, and due to lack of productivity, this can be dismissed as a chosen option for pleasure at best.

The leftists would just love the discussions of Cain to be about anything but jobs & the economy, thus the interview you’ve seen done here – distraction from the core issues is the goal. Cain, as the GOP nominee, would trounce Obama in any debate and reveal him to be the America-hating Marxist that he is.

If our nation’s economy falters, then the leftist wet dreams will be realized as an economic depression will result in massive amounts of citizens being even more dependent on the federal government, and a likely further erosion of our constitutional rights.

A. you didn’t watch it, B. you’re deaf and blind, C. you’re clueless,… it’s your pick!

Let me see if I’ve got this straight.  Herman Cain was born in 1945 making him 24 y/o in 1969…the year that Lawrence O’Donnell graduated high school.  I’m wondering…did Lawrence volunteer for service in the military?  What was his draft number?  Hmmmm.  I find it odd that O’Donnell, a lilly-white boy from Boston who attended an elite Catholic secondary school in Boston, should begin to opine that Herman Cain is not “black enough”.
WOW!

rac·ism  (rszm)n.1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is
superior to others.2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.You might want to rethink your statement sir.

Cain seems like a nice guy and it would appear he must have some business knowledge. (he doesn’t show it) Where he will lose ground is tweaking his statements as he goes along. He backs up more than a truck. Half the time he says “I didn’t say that”,… he did. The other half he puts a little spin on it and he still doesn’t save the moment. He makes the wacky statements for the “teas”,… then corrects it for the middle, by then it’s too late, they won’t buy it! He should enjoy his lead, because no matter what the “teas” claim “many” won’t support him and he’ll be on his own!

D) you’re a hyper partisan lemming with your head up your a$$….

the worst part ( from your point of view) was when LOD made a total fool out of himself when he tried to grill Cain on why he didn’t serve   during vietnam…and Cain  explained to him his was a ballistic expert working for the Dept of Defense……and they wanted him to stay in this position because it was a greater benefit to the country where he was…… And the look LOD’s was a mix of bewilderment and extereme aggravation because Cain had just  just made a complete idiot out of him……probably just like the look on your face right now

and please tell me How Mr. O’Donnell served his country during Vietnam?…since you seem to be all knowing…and all seeing………

and BTW..i even sat through Maddow last night too….( that’s a chore….let me tell you)… but Ezra Klein was filling in for her……and it wasn’t so bad as it usually is…I didn’t have to sit through her smarmy bullsh$t like i do most nights

I get my news from many sources fool……..because if you don’t…you’re sadly misinformed…like you seem to be

no go back to banging your sister…and leave politicle discussions to the adults

Watch The Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell Interview with Herman Cain Full Video (October 6):

http://tinyurl.com/lawrence-o-donnell-herman-cain

Watch The Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell Interview with Herman Cain Full Video (Oct 6):

http://pqrnews.com/News/lawrence-odonnells-interview-with-herman-cain-the-last-word-msnbc-video-on-october-6-/

He made a failing pizza business into a successful business, after turning around 400 Burger King restaurants that were the worst performers, after being Pillsbury’s VP of Corporate Data Systems because he was a mathematician and rocket scientist before that.

That’s not all.  After being successful in the food industry, Cain moved into a Federal Reserve system where he eventually became Chairman of the regional Federal Reserve.

He’s written several books on business.  I doubt he needs to sell another book.

He’s was a high level banker, successful businessman, writer, numbers cruncher and somewhat of a rocket scientist…nice job trying to diminish Cain down to “the pizza man.”

Please tell me what more do you want out of a candidate?  A career politician?  Another lawyer?

F. clueless “tea” bagger of the worst level, (blind) and still pats himself on his back!

How about from O’Donnell making a fool out of himself,… we go to he handed Cain’s ass to him! Would the fool part come when Cain kept backing up and changing his past statements,… or would it be when Cain couldn’t answer O’s. questions,… or maybe when his 999 was proven to fall short on revenue. Take your pick. Oh and your buddy Klein said the same. No, you don’t get your news from many source, if you did you wouldn’t be sooo stupid and such a defensive moron! I noticed by your “punk” comment,…. you have interest in little boys. I hope you don’t act on those feelings, and please don’t stalk me,…. but I think you might,… no a joke like you will for sure. I can’t wait for a another moron comment, but, it’s too late, so stalk me tommorow so you can get in the,… last word,… oh that’s why you love O’Donnell!

you just dig your whole deeper each time…..as always….you know all………and see all……..just because o’donnel and klein say something……doesn’t mean it’s true..

post your facts on how the 999 falls short of revenue….. both lod and klein said so……but they did not cite any studies or facts on this…they just threw that out…..and you ate it up…i’m sure

actually….no one has done a cost analysis on it yet ( if you know differently….once again…….post the link with the facts)…..It deserves a better look…….Many people advocate for a flat tax….and should not be dismissed off hand

…as to “stalking”….you came after me bud……see your above post….remember… probably not…so here it is:

“A. you didn’t watch it, B. you’re deaf and blind, C. you’re clueless,… it’s your pick! “I did watch it……….i’m not deaf dumb and blind……. and i’m far from clueless…I’m a news junkie…and always will be…..I monitor many sites……and do my own research before i form an opinion…because guess what….ALL MEDIA OUTLETS ARE BIASED…..   to be informed..especially these days…..you have too…..if you get your news from sites your “comfortable ” with….you are sadly misinformed….as you seem to be…
well maybe i don’t monitor “styleite” like i’m sure you do……but what real man really does……now go try on your new pumps………and stop stalking MEdon’t worry…i’ll never respond to you ever again…i hate talking to walls

I did not like this post. someone is messing with my disqus account, Sorry tatboy.

I did not like this post. someone is messing with my disqus account, Sorry tatboy

I did not like this post. Someone is messing with my disqus account. Sorry Pablo

The more I read here the more I am convinced that Liberalism is a form of mental retardation.

He, he, he!  We all know who had the last word here, O’Donnell, and it wasn’t you! He, he, he!

oh hell….I need to apologize to timcajun…..i crossed a couple personal lines…..even if i stand by everything i said about LOD and Klein

some people post comments sometimes that would cause Ghandi to let loose a string of expletives…and whereas I’m NO Ghandi…i do beleive 2 wrongs don’t make a right

Cain was serving in the Navy as a Ballistics Mathematician during the Viet Nam war.

Does LOD think that the military would send such a bright mind over to fight in the jungles of Viet Nam?

Just because he didn’t go doctor shopping to have minor wounds trumped up to the level of Purple Heart status doesn’t mean he didn’t serve.

“Cain seems like a nice guy and it would appear he must have some business knowledge.”

Some business knowledge?

After completing his master’s degree from Purdue, Cain left the Department of the Navy and began working for The Coca-Cola Company in Atlanta as a computer systems analyst. In 1977, he moved to Minneapolis to join Pillsbury,
soon becoming director of analysis in its restaurant and foods group in
1978. He was assigned in the 1980s first to analyze and ultimately to
take the reins of Burger King, which at the time was a Pillsbury subsidiary, where he managed 400 stores in the Philadelphia
area. Under Cain’s leadership, his region went in three years from the
least profitable for Burger King to the most profitable. This prompted
Pillsbury to appoint him President and CEO of another subsidiary, Godfather’s Pizza.
Aiming to cut costs, Cain, over a 14-month period, reduced the company
from 911 stores to 420. As a result of his efforts, Godfather’s Pizza
became profitable. In a leveraged buyout in 1988, Cain, Executive
Vice-President and COO Ronald B. Gartlan and a group of investors,
bought Godfather’s from Pillsbury. Cain continued as CEO until 1996,
when he resigned.

Later in 1996 he became CEO of the National Restaurant Association,
a trade group and lobby organization for the restaurant industry, where
he had previously been chairman concurrently with his role at
Godfather’s Pizza.[14]

Cain became a member of the board of directors of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City in 1992 and served as its chairman from January 1995 to August 1996, when he resigned to become active in national politics.[15]

Cain was a 1996 recipient of the Horatio Alger Award.[16]

Cain was on the board of directors of Aquila, Inc. from 1992 to 2008, and also served as a board member for Nabisco, Whirlpool, Reader’s Digest, and AGCO, Inc.

Yeah, I would say he has “some” business knowledge.

 ”The leftists would just love the discussions of Cain to be about anything but jobs & the economy”

The same thing they did to Sarah Palin. It was always personal attacks and never policy discussions.

Their biggest fear is the GOP putting a Black man into the White House, as it would forever stop them from playing the race card.

If Cain is the GOP nominee, the attacks on Palin will appear to be compliments by comparison to what the media will try to do to Cain.

I guess they can still demonize “the rich” and engage in class warfare, although that too will wear thin pretty quick, just like Obama’s bumper sticker slogans.

Yet the media stood silent while Obama told this whopper of a lie.

“Coming home to Selma”
What a liar.

What a waste of a “tea” shell. Don’t pat yourself on the back too much. I had already given the acknowledegement of such. What’s the problem here, the word “some”? If you weren’t “intellectually lazy” you would have figured that out! Now, do I get to list all of Obama’s honors, board of directors and education. The same information the “teas” always dismiss. Wow, guess what,… this works both ways. Avoid such mistakes.

MSNBC are Drama Queens. They’re not smart enough to ask intelligent questions.

Congratulations to Herman Cain. He answered his questions with intellegence and supported by facts throughout this interview regardless of O’Donnell’s attempts to misrepresent the facts and points of discussion. They are attacking Mr Cain because they fear his straight forward approach and public support of his idea’s. I encourage all Americans to support Herman Cain, because Herman Cain supports us!, he identifies with us! he is one of us! Keep rasi’n Cain, Herman, America supports you!  

O’Donnell should have been fired right after this aired. What a smug scumbag arrogant socialist puke he is.

I can’t stand to read any more of the posts here, so I’m going to comment and leave..It is tiresome to continually see arguments not based in fact and the back and forth sniping gets old.

As to Cain, I cannot support a person who has so little knowledge of government and life different than his. His 999 plan got turned upside down- it is more of a 666. The low to lower middle income people would be heavily penalized under his plan, as many of the economists from both sides have said. It would increase the deficit and would end up meaning the end of Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, even if he doesn’t want to say that part. Without payroll taxes, there would be no funding for those programs. I have yet to hear him say what he would do instead. Of course his claims of “brainwashing” of all the people who refuse to support him is just a little over the top. OK, a lot over the top. Most of Cain’s positions are directly opposed to my positions; which is not brainwashing but it is me having the brains to think for myself and disagree with him. That is the great thing about current day America. I have that right.

I disagree with most Republicans but I do occasionally find one or two points I can agree with. I think even Newt Gingrich said something once that I agreed with. May have been the first and only time- but hey. But there is no way I could support a candidate like Cain. I would not want to see the damage he would do to this country. I do want to ask him a question though. If he thinks everyone should be millionaires- I’m wondering how many millionaires came out of working at Godfathers Pizza? After all, he said anyone with a job can be a millionaire. Surely he created thousands that worked.making those pizza’s! .

So Cain choose not to support the Civil Right Movement, choose to be straight(unclear), and chosen to be a tool of Wall Street. It’s a free country. He has also chosen to relegate himself to the dustbin of history.

Rockyroad,

As an African American I disagree with you. O’Donnell was not being racist. He asked some tough questions. Cain is the beneficiary of Civil Rights but he was a not participant in teh movement. Instead of do the right thing he decided to “stay out of trouble.” What kind of President would he make with that philosophy? I will listen more to Cain to hear his platfrom.

Yes, please list Obama’s accomplishments.  I’d really like to know them.

The press didn’t investigate his past, we don’t even know what his grades were.  Some know that Obama failed to improve Chicago’s educational institutions with millions given to him through Professor Bill Ayers.  Besides being a politician, we don’t really know what accomplishments.  He never managed a business, so he can’t claim what Cain can.  At least Cain has measurable success, not dependent upon jobs saved data that can’t be proven.  Michelle was on the board of a hospital that didn’t treat poor people so well.

“Tool of Wall Street”…sound like President Obama.  Candidate Obama definitely sounded like an outsider even though he’d been an insider for most of his career.  Obama kept Bush’s economic and military endeavors going strong.  In fact, President Obama seems to have liked President Bush’s policies so much that he actually did even more of the same.  GITMO, military tribunals, Patriot Act, warrant-less wiretaps, Wall Street kickbacks, special deals to donors, killing more people than Bush are the many accomplishments of President Obama.  Before the 2008 election these were all bad things.  Now that President Obama is in office, these are all great things!  My how I love to see this modern day Ides of March scenario.  Which is it; are these policies bad or not?  Getting rid of a tyrant or just picking the right (I mean left) tyrant?

BTW, no Wall Street execs lost their jobs, their pay or their power.  Wall Street enjoys more liquidity in the stock market thanks to President Obama & Bernanke’s Feds fiscal policy.

Now really, who has been a “tool of Wall Street” for these past 3 years?  Democrats owned Washington DC for the first two years and applied none of their power to get at Wall Street, because they were too busy getting Goldman Sachs employees transferred to government jobs.

Please, give us a break on this “tools of Wall Street” preaching…

 What and why are you trying to sneak by here? The law review, which demands a certain GPA, and Harvard are,…. not “education”!? What about the boards he served on? Maybe you don’t like him,…ok. That has nothing to do with his factual, vast educational background. Only a tool couldn’t see that I “did” state Cain  had business background, I also add, it’s vast! The only point was, he doesn’t bring that across very well. What should hurt you the most is with all the back-steps and regretted statements he has made, it leads a person to believe that he doesn’t really have the “tea” crazy in his heart or mind! He is a smart man, that on the average wouldn’t make such mistakes. He will “use” then “lose” the crazies!

Are you in a cave somewhere Mr. taliban? Have you not noticed the protests all over the country? Who is supporting and defending Wall Street but your pals who want to finish the job they started. I’ll buy you a clue if need be.

My “pals”…you know such much…presumptive you are.  I was against the bailouts under Bush and Obama, nice try.  I could only hope that Obama would bring the change he promised to Wall Street.

The protests all over the country…really?  Hundreds, thousands…they are the 1% no matter how they want to portray themselves.  Unions are supporting them by providing them with healthcare and other necessities, so much for grass roots.  You might be able to convince enough unemployed people to come, but to what ends?  You’re still going to rely on the same old people that are in power now.

Still can’t find a way to defend your president’s actions, can you?  Wall Street gave considerably more to Obama; he paid them back with Geithner and no real “change.”

Please, “buy” me a “clue.”  I’m curious if you have one, let alone pay for it.

I’ve provided you with a few.  You’re believing the fox will protect the hen house.  Good luck with that wager.  Hope you enjoy your union bosses too.  You’ll find out who is in-charge of your movement soon enough.  I really do hate it for you when it comes time to pay the piper.  The Arab Spring still has not brought democracy or freedom to the Middle East.  Israel remains the only free country in the region.  And hope you are not a woman in one of those Islamic countries, not too many feminists  or gays under Islam.

According to Wiki, Obama worked for a CIA front company for a year, then as a lobbyist/community organized for a year, that lead to being director of a community organizing group that grew from 1 to 13 people in the 3 years he was there.  He then attended Harvard Law School to become editor of the Law Review and then president of the journal.  After leaving Harvard he wrote a book about himself.

After leading 1 to 13 people as community organizers and being a lobbyist and then a student journalist, he was hired as a professor for Chicago Law School for 12 years.  As a professor he led project vote (basically getting blacks out to vote in elections), practiced law for 3 years (his client was Acorn where he won a suit to force Citibank to make loans to poor blacks that didn’t meet the basic requirements for home ownership or Citibank was forced to make bad loans thanks to litigators like Barack Obama), he was chairman of an organization he founded (the one that failed to help educating students even though millions of dollars were spent, according to Obama’s book), and board member for 2 community organizing groups.  That sums up his accomplishments and achievements before becoming a politician.

He’s a community organizer and for 3 years practiced law.  The foundation he started failed at its stated goals despite having access to millions of dollars.  There really isn’t much here to judge if Obama performed well.  He definitely worked hard at getting people active in politics, some would call this “building his base.”  Not sure what accomplishments he made.  I see a lot of attempts, but like his presidency…not much substance.

You did state some of his background. There was some spin, some opinion, what failed would be in question, but most “teas” wouldn’t look it up! I think you’re over selling Cain and without doubt, short selling Obama, but “Cain” does have a meaningful past in business. I don’t know how many times or ways I can say that! The only point I make is,…. with his backups and lack of proof on his 999 and other slips, I don’t think he comes across as sharp as he clearly is!

You did state some of his background. There was some spin, some opinion, what failed would be in question, but most “teas” wouldn’t look it up! I think you’re over selling Cain and without doubt, short selling Obama, but “Cain” does have a meaningful past in business. I don’t know how many times or ways I can say that! The only point I make is,…. with his backups and lack of proof on his 999 and other slips, I don’t think he comes across as sharp as he clearly is!

Obama was groomed.  He was a law professor before practicing law.  He was given leadership positions because of his political activism, not accomplishments.  Obama doesn’t have a long list of measurable accomplishments like Cain has.  That’s all I’m saying.

Cain could do a better job of representing himself…Ok, I agree.  Cain doesn’t have a teleprompter in front of him. I’m not sure what kind of speech writers Cain has.  Cain’s off the cuff remarks do take on the hard issues.  Remember when Holder said that Americans are a bunch of cowards when it comes to discussing these issues.  Well, here is Cain making that attempt.  I for one prefer the candid responses to the 30 sec sound bite non-answers.  Cain is obviously not trying to pander to every political group in order to play politics as usual. Taken in context, I believe actions speak louder than words.  Cains accomplishments are measurable and considerable.  I’m not going to like everything about another person’s beliefs, that’s just normal. 

As a whole, Cain represents sound ideas.  A flat tax is the only way to help ensure politicians don’t play ‘loosey goosey’ with the tax code.  If you don’t like tax loopholes, then support a form of flat tax.  That’s all he’s getting at.  He’s run the numbers to come up with 9-9-9, measurable specifics.  I do think it will hit the poor harder, but reality is that the poor don’t pay federal taxes.  Under a flat tax, corporations and unions with great lobbyist won’t have as much power.  Do you really want everyone to pay their “fair share?”  Then go to a flat tax rate, Forbes has been saying that for years. Otherwise there will continue to be corporations that won’t pay taxes while small and medium sized businesses cover the lion’s share because they can’t afford lobbyist or are not politically active.  Do you want to make real change, or do you want more of the same?

My apologies as I did presume you to be of the teabagger sort that has infested the GOP. What pray tell could President Obama have done with the economy when he was obstructed by the nuts in Congress at every turn. What economic advisors could he lean on but those already in our system?

Sure, union members and others have joined in the protests but they are truly grassroots  and not bankrolled (TeaParty) by such as the Koch bros. Instead of railing against Pres. Obama like a spineless liberal you should be joining the protests.

I was thinking about joining until you embraced the unions.  The unions are the establishment and will not be a part of the solution.  Like I mentioned earlier, the unions will own you in the end.

Obama owned Washington DC for his first 2 years.  He could have done anything.  He did, remember when he ignored Republicans and glibly said, “I won”(in a bi-partisan meeting no less).  What could be more definitive than that?  Like I said, he took his political clout elsewhere.  Are there not any economic advisers who did not come from Goldman Sachs or other establishment big business?  Are you really arguing that he could only choose from the establishment and you want me to believe you won’t?  You are actually going to keep defending Obama’s choices while decrying the results?

Once again, your fatal flaw is that you expect the fox to guard the hen house.

Cain deserves many kudos for even letting himself be interviewed by this douche bag.

And if O’Donnell graduated from high school in 1969 he would have had plenty of time to volunteer for service in Vietnam. If he didn’t, who the hell is he to criticize Herman Cain?

You seem to have forgotten that Pres. Obama and America were blackmailed by theTP/Republicans to extend the Bush taxcuts. How about the still unresolved BP oil disaster, or half of these goofs blaming him for getting involved in Libya and the other half blaming him for not getting MORE involved. Could the Pres. have done a better job with the economic disaster, sure but he was under immense time pressure to fix the huge mess that Bush had put us in. Am I defending the President, Yes,but can all of us imagine what this great country would have looked like in a Palin/McCain administration. That nightmare was averted. This President is certainly not perfect but he is our best option by far.
Your flaw is that you are fixated on the fox while the wolf is lurking just behind him. BTW, I have enjoyed this banter with you n2woods.

Name calling and persnickety comments really don’t do much good.  I to enjoy a real discussion.  It is the only way to really learn the weaknesses in your own argument while learning new perspectives and alternate facts.

McCain would have continued the Bush deal the same as Obama did.  Not sure where you get the idea that Obama did things differently.  Extending the Bush tax cuts was only symbolic, but at what point is there ever enough taxes levied.

I was against the Bush bailouts and knew McCain was less of the same.  At least Bush has an MBA from Harvard and attempted to follow Harvard’s teachings on the economy (“suspending the free market to save” it…, My idea is the free market either works or it doesn’t);  McCain seemed just lost.

If we totally get out of Libya now, then I’ll agree it was a good turning point move.  If we’re stuck holding Libya’s hands for years, then it will be a complete and utter money pit filled with more hatred for America.

As much as you hate the TP, you could really learn from them.  The establishment does cow-tow to them because they took out Republicans.  To really make them listen, you’ve got to prove you don’t play politics for the party’s sake.  If you’re just another big government socialist, then you’ll find out that at least under capitalism there is a moderator.  Under socialism/communism/Marxist governance, there is no recourse of grievances.  The issues you seem to be highlighting are where the cronies have “rigged” the system.  In sports, when the referee has a vested interest in one side winning the game will not be played fair.  It is up to us to make sure the referee’s remain objective.  Under socialism, there are no referees. 

There is no scientific data on being born gay or not……Get over yourself who cares if he thinks it is or it isnt it’s his choice…My brother is gay and my sister is married to a woman,I don’t care what they do or who they do it with to or when…I do care about people hijacking movements and using them for political and financial gain…..Get over yourselves Gay Americans people really don’t care what you do anymore and over zealous Christians cut the shit also……CAN I GET JUST ONE ELECTION THAT DOESN’T INVOLVE OVER BLOWN SOCIAL COMMENTARY TO DIVIDE AND DISTRACT WE THE ACTUAL VOTERS OF AMERICA….

And screw Lawrence for Grilling a Black man on what he should have done during segregation….That guy wasn’t a black guy facing down a couple hundred years of oppression without a weapon in hand….If some one on the right did this exact same thing on T.V. the media would blow it up so big they would lose their job..

I hope they find the homosexuality gene. As a Darwinian naturalist, I believe that any genetic defect that does not allow reproduction, should be isolated and treated. We do that with all kinds of male and female sterility…why not do it with homosexuality?

I’m with most of what you’ve said. Just a few things differ. This teleprompter, issue has been worn out and is half valid at best. The last few presidents used the same. He’s a strong speaker. (even if hated).I do like Cain making the attempt to take questions, even when ”not’,… being able to answer. That does seem honest to me. The “tea” party is very, very forgiving on ”lack of knowledge”. That makes me fear the “teas” not Cain. His 999 plan has not been proven. Maybe it does add up, but he can’t name who is supporting this with their sign off. It’s a theory at best. When someone such a Heritage says it works, that’s even more of a question. I’m with you on the loopholes, but still see loss of corp. income. The venders may or may not be hurt with the higher sales tax. However it sounds, how and why tax those that don’t have the money to pay? I know the hate theory, if they didn’t spent their money on drug and drink, they would have money to pay more tax. Hows does a mother of 2 or 3 working at $8.00 rate, (baby daddy can’t be found) with the light bill due and no food left, pay some extra tax. I would guess you make a good income, I think I do and I do believe it’s ok for me to kick in a little more. As I said I go along with most of this!

I’ve been poor before.  I knew what it was like to wonder how I would support myself.  I’ve made rather conservative choices because of my experiences.  I pay for my cars with cash.  If that means I only get a $3k car, so be it.  That philosophy has saved me a lot of money.

Take food, not booze, off the taxable items.  States have done that, and it works well.  As you know, food is a major portion of a poor person’s budget.  Rental property is not taxed, so that takes care of housing.  I think that would make the flat tax code fair.  The wealthy spend money on goods and services more than the rest; these taxes will hit them the most.  Yet, retirement savings will not be taxed, that has got to help those that are trying to get ahead the old fashion way…through hard work, savings and incremental investing.

To be honest, most Americans do not take the time to research things.  To single out the Tea Party just sounds petty.  The Tea Party is made of normal Americans with normal problems common to us all.  How many of your friends knew what I wrote about Obama?

We’ll know pretty quickly if the 9% rate is enough and can adjust as necessary.  Europe already uses the VAT tax, which is similar.  The 9-9-9 plan is not a ‘shot in the dark’ kind of plan.  The VAT tax is more or less a progressive sales tax that is definately not flat and subject to politicization.  Therefore, I like the Cain plan over the European VAT tax.  The idea is to get a fair tax system along with equality in government.  VAT taxes, progressive taxes and tax loopholes are tools of lobbyists and politicians alike.

I’m with your thoughts. There is one thing I can’t be brought in on. The “tea” party scares the hell out of me and not in a good way. Not in a way of them,… good…. correcting evil! The thought and comments of those guys on this site, the cheering for death, the,….. “to hell with the poor”, the spin on the numbers. If I’m wrong, their not proving their case, but liberals have rouges also, that’s true. The odd thing is liberals don’t believe half what the “teas’ claim we do. I can see past the “teas” and agree “Cain” is sharp and I like some of what he says. He may be right, your points do make sense.

Thanks for not including me with the “crazies.”

Unfortunately, the web allows people to ‘hit and run’ without knowing who we’re talking to.  It has become way to easy to treat each other disrespectfully.  Although, I’ve found all sides treat opposing positions poorly.  Try going on the NYT or HuffPo posing as a Tea Partier and you’ll see what I mean.

Go to a rally and meet people face to face and you’ll experience a different vibe altogether.  Many of my friends are Democrats, so I know they don’t eat children for breakfast while saluting Chairman Mao.  We also have a lot more in common than many posts seem to indicate.  I’m a Navy vet that experienced several cultures and diverse backgrounds both here and abroad.  We are all humans looking to improve our lives.  Greed and love are apart of all cultures.  If we could just remember that, I’d personally enjoy this life a lot better.  I am also a Christian and required to forgive and love regardless.  The worst tragedy of modern Christianity is that we forgot our first love.  In the end it was foretold that the love of many would grow cold.  It is real easy to see how that is fulfilling itself with posts on the blogs.

I can’t see you being a “tea” party member. My party would really be in trouble if the “tea” party used your logic and reason. I am thankful they don’t! It appears you and I are about on the same page, that gives me hope in my fellow man!

I don’t hate the TeaParty as they have the potential to help  move the GOP to a different place. However if they are so commited to fiscal responsibility then where were they 2000-2008? Not a peep from them. They only came on the scene when this President was elected.They also have a racist core which is self evident to everyone but themselves, and what is it with the loonies like Sharon Angle, Christie O’Donnell and that Nazi reenactor? On Libya, I couldn’t agree with you more. Anyway, I’ll leave this message board to the others now. I’ll catch up with you on another topic. Maybe sports.

I know you say you’re moving on but there were a lot of people against the bailouts, it took Rick Santelli to coherently verbalize what the angst was.  Rick is the one that coined the phrase, “Chicago Tea Party.”  Once the grassroots efforts had a rallying point, the angst turned into a movement.

This new movement will be painted by others in a light that is uncharacteristic of the group as a whole.  Once you get branded as something you’re not, then you’ll probably not be so quick to label others as well.

May you stay healthy. Peace.

I shall watch them closely and see how they evolve. we all get branded at one time or another as something we’re not. If they would protest Wall Street then the general populace would view them in a new light.
May the force be with you, Brother.

Laurence O’Donnell is definitely not a racist as some have called him for placing this Uncle Tom on blast. He asked uncomfortable questions of Cain because he made uncomfortable and unfounded remarks about his own race. He asked Cain about his involvement in the Civil Rights movement because he (Cain) personally benefitted from the movement yet he claims that his success was due to his own efforts.

I’m sick of hearing about race. I thought President Obama was going to step out of the day to day politics. Sorry to see its the same old crap. So I don’t care what anyone else thinks on this page. I’m going for Herman Cain. I believe we cannot survive with democrats or republicans beating each other over the head every day. I don’t know if I am correct, but I’ll take my chances with Herman. Please give Him a look, very smart man. We cannot agree 100% but we can work together. THANKS.

Ah yes, no black person ever made it until the Democrats passed the Civil Rights act…and we’re racists!