Fact: Did his driver’s license reflect his harsh living environment?

Not that uncommon with Republican political sorts. Poppy Bush, Big Richard “D*ck” Cheney, Mann Coulter, Sanitarium, just to name a few. So far, however, Wilbur seems to be the only Republican political sort known to have tied a dog to the roof of a car to go on vacation.

At least Maddow has kept Chuck Todd off her program , sparing her discerning audience one of Todd’s patented racially charged rants .

And yet , even with Maddow’s weird attack , Romney probably had a better day yesterday than her friend Weiner .

She should bring on her charming sidekick , Democrat Spokesman Larry Flynt , to analyze the current stage of Weinergate .

The Lantern of Truth said:
At least Maddow has kept Chuck Todd off her program , sparing her discerning audience one of Todd’s patented racially charged rants .

And yet , even with Maddow’s weird attack , Romney probably had a better day yesterday than her friend Weiner .

She should bring on her charming sidekick , Democrat Spokesman Larry Flynt , to analyze the current stage of Weinergate .

Well that’s certainly mixing Cuisinarts with watermelon.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
Not that uncommon with Republican political sorts. Poppy Bush, Big Richard “D*ck” Cheney, Mann Coulter, Sanitarium, just to name a few. So far, however, Wilbur seems to be the only Republican political sort known to have tied a dog to the roof of a car to go on vacation.

Do you have any class, or ability to speak like an adult? Anything, Royal… or is this really the best you can do?
____________

These types of attacks happen all the time, and are so often unsuccessful, it’s amazing people keep trying them. Anyone know if Maddow was interested in Rahm’s election, and did any stories on whether or not he should have been allowed to run? We know that she did stories against those complaining about the New Black Panthers attempting to intimidate people outside polling locations. So once again, it seems that Maddow pushes a hypocritical and nonsensical attack on Romney, simply due to ideological reasons, not high-minded political or legal concerns. She is the definition of ideologue.

ImNotBlue said:
Do you have any class, or ability to speak like an adult? Anything, Royal… or is this really the best you can do?
____________

These types of attacks happen all the time, and are so often unsuccessful, it’s amazing people keep trying them. Anyone know if Maddow was interested in Rahm’s election, and did any stories on whether or not he should have been allowed to run? We know that she did stories against those complaining about the New Black Panthers attempting to intimidate people outside polling locations. So once again, it seems that Maddow pushes a hypocritical and nonsensical attack on Romney, simply due to ideological reasons, not high-minded political or legal concerns. She is the definition of ideologue.

The statement has no discernible falsehood in it, so save your whining.

Actually, Ms. Maddow, for all her faults, is far more likely to criticize Democrats than O’Beckerhead, Bill-o or O’Hannity are Republicans, so peddle your kvetching in another neighborhood.

So Rachel has now succumbed to peeking in basement windows. lol

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
The statement has no discernible falsehood in it, so save your whining.

Actually, Ms. Maddow, for all her faults, is far more likely to criticize Democrats than O’Beckerhead, Bill-o or O’Hannity are Republicans, so peddle your kvetching in another neighborhood.

Agreed – your lack of class and juvenile behaviour is not a falsehood. You prove it on a regular basis.

Please, enough of anymore nonsense from Ms. Maddow. This stuff is really ridiculous.

Never watch her show. Watched this little clip and she finds it impossible to act like an adult. The face grimaces and hand gestures are so childish that I understand why viewers have fled. It’s time for Rachel to grow up if she wants to be taken seriously.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
Not that uncommon with Republican political sorts. Poppy Bush, Big Richard “D*ck” Cheney, Mann Coulter, Sanitarium, just to name a few. So far, however, Wilbur seems to be the only Republican political sort known to have tied a dog to the roof of a car to go on vacation.

Tick Tock, another day, another personal and ridiculous attack by Royal Pain in the ___.

remoriah said:
Please, enough of anymore nonsense from Ms. Maddow. This stuff is really ridiculous.

I wonder which of the other republican candidates will be the first to raise this matter as an election issue.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
The statement has no discernible falsehood in it, so save your whining.

So I’ll take that as a, “Yes, it is impossible for me to act like an adult.”

Actually, Ms. Maddow, for all her faults, is far more likely to criticize Democrats than O’Beckerhead, Bill-o or O’Hannity are Republicans, so peddle your kvetching in another neighborhood.

Again, I’ll ask… but undoubtedly you’ll run away… what is with the nicknames? Are you that insecure that you feel you must attack everyone who disagrees with you like this? Is it really the best you can do? Do you not recognize that all you’re doing is making yourself sound like a child on the playground? Do you think you’re funny? Do you realize that nobody else does?

The clip didn’t load, but this is just stupid. The guy owns multiple homes, and travels around. I could see there being an issue if he voted mutliple times, in different states, but come on. Stupid faux controversy. Especially perpetuated by Democrats, of all people.

I live in Italy and am registered to vote from my mothers house in the PNW.

In July 2010, the Romneys bought an $895,000 attached townhouse in Belmont, MA.

Personally, I think it’s flippin funny that this is and fact that he put the dog carrier on the top of his car is all the dirt you can find on the Mittster. Call me when he starts hanging with terrorists and racist, America haters.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
Not that uncommon with Republican political sorts. Poppy Bush, Big Richard “D*ck” Cheney, Mann Coulter, Sanitarium, just to name a few. So far, however, Wilbur seems to be the only Republican political sort known to have tied a dog to the roof of a car to go on vacation.

Fact: Rohm Emanual and Al Fankin…. For dem bulbs plus others…

You have to consider what exactly is meant by “unfinished’.

Romney probably considers a basement unfinished if there isn’t an audio system and an iPod station.

Cecelia, if you’re not careful, people could mistake you for a liberal who loathes anyone who’s made money.

Maddow is getting worse each night. She has become very petty in picking really irrelevat topics. I guess as long as she keeps sneering, MSNBC will keep her.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
Cecelia, if you’re not careful, people could mistake you for a liberal who loathes anyone who’s made money.

Well, they’d be jumping to an idiotic conclusion then, very likely uncomfortable with the thought of wealth themselves.

I don’t see a thing wrong with having money. Not even when it was Sen. John Kerry.

Election 2012: Generic Presidential Ballot
Generic Republican Candidate 46%, Obama 44%

In the Mediaite idiot poll, RRK wins going away.

ImNotBlue said:
Actually, Ms. Maddow, for all her faults, is far more likely to criticize Democrats than O’Beckerhead, Bill-o or O’Hannity are Republicans, so peddle your kvetching in another neighborhood.

Again, I’ll ask… but undoubtedly you’ll run away… what is with the nicknames? Are you that insecure that you feel you must attack everyone who disagrees with you like this? Is it really the best you can do? Do you not recognize that all you’re doing is making yourself sound like a child on the playground? Do you think you’re funny? Do you realize that nobody else does?

It’s a question of style, pure and simple. If you don’t like it, I can live with that just fine. In fact, it makes me even more convinced I should continue. Now, go let out the bodice in your petticoat, Nancy-Marie.

Dave Richards said:
Maddow is getting worse each night. She has become very petty in picking really irrelevat topics. I guess as long as she keeps sneering, MSNBC will keep her.

I WANT to like her. She’s smart…a woman with her own show…etc.

The problem is that she is just SO coy. So cutesy.

Could you tone the self-impressed stuff down several notches, Rach. I don’t mind you having a differing ideology, but goody-goody smug Shirley Temple in bad wardrobe choices is a little too much.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
It’s a question of style, pure and simple. If you don’t like it, I can live with that just fine. In fact, it makes me even more convinced I should continue. Now, go let out the bodice in your petticoat, Nancy-Marie.

And what do you think the style says about yourself? Describe the style, if you wouldn’t mind. What are you going for. Make me appreciate it.

“Either way, the visualization of mega-millionaire Mitt Romney living in an unfinished basement is just entertaining enough to guarantee that this meme will likely continue to grow. ”

Maddow acts as if Romney lived in a basement of a 500 square foot house. The dude lived in a basement of a MANSION. I’m sure that basement is big enough to hold everyone commenting on this link’s house.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
Cecelia, if you’re not careful, people could mistake you for a liberal who loathes anyone who’s made money.

What a huge kart o’ krap. Doesn’t the perpetual stench bother you, Michelle-in-Utah? Much of the wealth of our nation is controlled by and in the hands of people who are decidedly not Radical Reactionary Republicans. What unites moderates, progressives and liberals, across the huge economic and class band that unites us is our fervent belief that the wealthiest of Americans should pay their fair share for the programs and infrastructure which makes America great. Now, go shove that kart o’ krap down the block. You’re stinking up the nighborhood now.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
t’s a question of style, pure and simple. If you don’t like it, I can live with that just fine. In fact, it makes me even more convinced I should continue. Now, go let out the bodice in your petticoat, Nancy-Marie.

Yeah, it’s a question of style when your “style”.

Yours is the opposite of people who give others affectionate nicknames in order to facilitate communication and a sense of closeness and camaraderie.

You wish to disparage and dehumanize. You enjoy it and it gives a sense of superior distance.

ImNotBlue said:
And what do you think the style says about yourself? Describe the style, if you wouldn’t mind. What are you going for. Make me appreciate it.

Among other things, it drives you nuts. You bleat, kvetch, moan and whine about it constantly. I find it most satisfactory.

Cecelia said:
THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
t’s a question of style, pure and simple. If you don’t like it, I can live with that just fine. In fact, it makes me even more convinced I should continue. Now, go let out the bodice in your petticoat, Nancy-Marie.

Yeah, it’s a question of style when your “style”.

Yours is the opposite of people who give others affectionate nicknames in order to facilitate communication and a sense of closeness and camaraderie.

You wish to disparage and dehumanize. You enjoy it and it gives a sense of superior distance.

There’s that too, Whopper.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
Cecelia, if you’re not careful, people could mistake you for a liberal who loathes anyone who’s made money.

Yea, we love cat fights. ^^

GreyGoose said:
Maddow acts as if Romney lived in a basement of a 500 square foot house. The dude lived in a basement of a MANSION. I’m sure that basement is big enough to hold everyone commenting on this link’s house.

Yep. “Unfinished” is subjective.

In my book a room is unfinished if there’s not good lighting, books, decorative pen and paper by every phone, and at least one ottoman.

valkyrie101 said:
Yea, we love cat fights.

Well, have at it with her then. The worse that you personally could do is to mar the drapes.

sarainitaly said:
The clip didn’t load, but this is just stupid. The guy owns multiple homes, and travels around. I could see there being an issue if he voted mutliple times, in different states, but come on. Stupid faux controversy. Especially perpetuated by Democrats, of all people.

I live in Italy and am registered to vote from my mothers house in the PNW.

In July 2010, the Romneys bought an $895,000 attached townhouse in Belmont, MA.

Sure, it doesn’t matter when it’s some rich White guy or some White expatriate, but for elderly voters, African American voters, Hispanic voters, Holocaust surviving voters and young voters, this is scarcely anything more important. Just look at all of the states which have passed voter suppression laws this years to disenfranchise, disqualify and discourage voting by these groups. Texas alone now has a draconian Voter Suppression Law, with a huge, beefy hand reaching out to slap down any Hispanic American who has the temerity to vote. Just fine with you, I am sure.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
There’s that too, Whopper.

ONLY that.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
Sure, it doesn’t matter when it’s some rich White guy or some White expatriate, but for elderly voters, African American voters, Hispanic voters, Holocaust surviving voters and young voters, this is scarcely anything more important. Just look at all of the states which have passed voter suppression laws this years to disenfranchise, disqualify and discourage voting by these groups. Texas alone now has a draconian Voter Suppression Law, with a huge, beefy hand reaching out to slap down any Hispanic American who has the temerity to vote. Just fine with you, I am sure.

No, one here believes for one second that you care anything about these people, Mark.

You’d be calling them “foreigner”, as you called sarainitaly, if they swung Republican.

Their just pawn in your game of demanding your way at any cost.

Cecelia said:
Well, have at it with her then. The worse that you personally could do is to mar the drapes.

:-) Very Excellent.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
Texas alone now has a draconian Voter Suppression Law, with a huge, beefy hand reaching out to slap down any Hispanic American who has the temerity to vote. Just fine with you, I am sure.

What it is that Texas demands from Hispanic Americans?

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
Sure, it doesn’t matter when it’s some rich White guy or some White expatriate, but for elderly voters, African American voters, Hispanic voters, Holocaust surviving voters and young voters, this is scarcely anything more important. Just look at all of the states which have passed voter suppression laws this years to disenfranchise, disqualify and discourage voting by these groups. Texas alone now has a draconian Voter Suppression Law, with a huge, beefy hand reaching out to slap down any Hispanic American who has the temerity to vote. Just fine with you, I am sure.

Cecelia said:
What it is that Texas demands from Hispanic Americans?

You have to produce a valid picture ID to register to vote. HORRORS!

Texas Voting Rule— What if I don’t have a driver’s license, personal identification number, OR a social security number? Can I still register to vote in Texas?

A voter who has not been issued a driver’s license or social security number may register to vote, but such voter must submit proof of identification when presenting himself/herself for voting or with his/her mail-in ballots, if voting by mail. These voters’ names are flagged on the official voter registration list with the annotation of “ID.” The “ID” notation instructs the poll worker to request a proper form of identification from these voters when they present themselves for voting. Acceptable identification includes:

* a driver’s license or personal identification card issued to the person by the Department of Public Safety or a similar document issued to the person by an agency of another state, regardless of whether the license or card has expired;
* a form of identification containing the person’s photograph that establishes the person’s identity;
* a birth certificate or other document confirming birth that is admissible in a court of law and establishes the person’s identity;
* United States citizenship papers issued to the person;
* a United States passport issued to the person;
* official mail addressed to the person by name from a governmental entity;
* a copy of a current utility bill, bank statement, government check, paycheck, or other government document that shows the name and address of the voter; or
* any other form of identification prescribed by the Secretary of State.

valkyrie101 said:
:-) Very Excellent.

Seriously, I’m still laughing, that was your best one, ever. ^^

valkyrie101 said:
Seriously, I’m still laughing, that was your best one, ever. ^^

Valk, don’t make me like you…

please…

Maybe Rachel ought to pick up the phone, call the WH and have Romney arrested and jailed. Then he can get “shot while trying to escape.” Great plan, huh, Comrade Rachel ? If you don’t want him killed, maybe we can just jail him indefinitely for “political re-education.”

I’m betting that Cain will be the first one to raise the residency issue, because like the guy pressing this charge, he is a candidate with nothing to lose. Though, perhaps he fancies himself a VP candidate and will show restraint.

Cecelia said:
Valk, don’t make me like you… please…

It happens, I have been speaking Italian in the shower.

Beyond classic. The party of withholding voting rights in the name of combating imaginary voter fraud is about to nominate a guy who quite likely committed actual voter fraud.

david r said:
Maybe Rachel ought to pick up the phone, call the WH and have Romney arrested and jailed. Then he can get “shot while trying to escape.” Great plan, huh, Comrade Rachel ? If you don’t want him killed, maybe we can just jail him indefinitely for “political re-education.”

For the love of God, what on EARTH are you talking about? Are you honestly bothered not by the fact that the likely GOP nominee committed blatant voter fraud, but by the fact that Rachel Maddow dared to cover it?

As if we needed more proof that the only voter “fraud” the GOP cares about is the imaginary kind that can be used to disenfranchise unsupportive would-be voters. For shame.

remoriah said:
Please, enough of anymore nonsense from Ms. Maddow. This stuff is really ridiculous.

Dave Richards said:
Maddow is getting worse each night. She has become very petty in picking really irrelevat topics. I guess as long as she keeps sneering, MSNBC will keep her.

I mean, wow. GOP legislatures across the country are passing some of the most draconian voter laws in recent history in an effort to combat imaginary voter fraud of which there is absolutely no evidence, but Rachel Maddow is ridiculous in covering Mitt Romney’s ACTUAL voter fraud?

For the record, this issue is quite straightforward. Was his son’s basement the primary residence of a multi-millionaire with homes across the country? If you think the answer is “yes,” I’ve got a great farm to sell you.

lillyluminatus said:
For the love of God, what on EARTH are you talking about? Are you honestly bothered not by the fact that the likely GOP nominee committed blatant voter fraud, but by the fact that Rachel Maddow dared to cover it?

As if we needed more proof that the only voter “fraud” the GOP cares about is the imaginary kind that can be used to disenfranchise unsupportive would-be voters. For shame.

I’m just pointing out the hypocrisy. Just another predictable attack. Maybe we can get him out of the way without having to talk about substance. Go team, go ! I share your concerns about disenfranchising the poor coming from Mexico, and I dare say I’ve had more contact with them than you have, most likely. I don’t think it is unreasonable to require some proof of residence and identity at the polls.

david r said:
I’m just pointing out the hypocrisy. Just another predictable attack. Maybe we can get him out of the way without having to talk about substance. Go team, go ! I share your concerns about disenfranchising the poor coming from Mexico, and I dare say I’ve had more contact with them than you have, most likely. I don’t think it is unreasonable to require some proof of residence and identity at the polls.

I understand that the TDL base will be available by swiping the card, but not the Passport base. I am going to use my Passport as a protest. Make the election judges struggle to see those small numbers under that holographic-like plastic. When they ask for the TDL because it is easier, I’m going to tell them I’m sympathetic, but they need to take that up with T-Booth and the legislators who voter for the Voter Suppression Act.

lillyluminatus said:
For the love of God, what on EARTH are you talking about? Are you honestly bothered not by the fact that the likely GOP nominee committed blatant voter fraud, but by the fact that Rachel Maddow dared to cover it?

As if we needed more proof that the only voter “fraud” the GOP cares about is the imaginary kind that can be used to disenfranchise unsupportive would-be voters. For shame.

If Obama and Rachel had their way, anyone with a Hispanic background would be allowed to vote in all the border states, so they can vote for more government doles to the poor. He’ll find votes wherever he can. Maybe we should let the Nobel Committee pick the nominees. Obama would love that.

Cecelia said:
What it is that Texas demands from Hispanic Americans?

Fact: Assimilate into society. No more Mexicans were here first crap. Fly the American flag on American holidays too. RRK just doesn’t understand what they are telling him or he is a Mexican for Mexico 1st guy too.

david r said:
I’m just pointing out the hypocrisy. Just another predictable attack. Maybe we can get him out of the way without having to talk about substance. Go team, go ! I share your concerns about disenfranchising the poor coming from Mexico, and I dare say I’ve had more contact with them than you have, most likely. I don’t think it is unreasonable to require some proof of residence and identity at the polls.

I suppose if the “illegals” are as interested in voting as my rightist reactionary friends say they are, the real winners will be the Anglo vendors selling fake Green Cards and Drivers’ Licenses at the Flea Markets and in the Fiesta parking lots.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
I understand that the TDL base will be available by swiping the card, but not the Passport base. I am going to use my Passport as a protest. Make the election judges struggle to see those small numbers under that holographic-like plastic. When they ask for the TDL because it is easier, I’m going to tell them I’m sympathetic, but they need to take that up with T-Booth and the legislators who voter for the Voter Suppression Act.

I’m sure their motives are not poor, but it is easy to get an ID card from the DMV even if you don’t drive. Here in Austin, there is a “silent economy” of illegals who work here in the building trades. Frankly, the local economy has grown to depend on their labor. Hard working people with real conservative values. I’d like to see them be able to vote. Closer to the border, the poverty is much worse, and people tend to be transient. I’m not sure of the status of the legislation.

@ TRRK

Please clarify these terrible voter laws. Are you upset that people will have to show ID? Is that the problem? I’m unaware of these specific concerns.

Rachel is totally cool with Obama’s shady real estate deal with convicted extortionist and family friend, Tony Rezko.

Each passing, show, Rachel exposes herself as someone with the maturity level of a 13 year old who has an aversion to truth telling, and who will go to any extreme length to advance her out of the mainstream views, no matter how ridiculous she renders herself.

Has Maddow checked herself into the same clinic that Weiner did? I mean she has some real mental issues to address.

ImNotBlue said:
@ TRRK

Please clarify these terrible voter laws. Are you upset that people will have to show ID? Is that the problem? I’m unaware of these specific concerns.

Find it yourself, and stop whining.

david r said:
I’m sure their motives are not poor, but it is easy to get an ID card from the DMV even if you don’t drive. Here in Austin, there is a “silent economy” of illegals who work here in the building trades. Frankly, the local economy has grown to depend on their labor. Hard working people with real conservative values. I’d like to see them be able to vote. Closer to the border, the poverty is much worse, and people tend to be transient. I’m not sure of the status of the legislation.

I’m not at all sure it is that easy. Nor is it quick. A laborer would likely have to talk an entire day off work. An elderly person could well be in such a state that a trip, perhaps on a dreadful Cap Metro bus, to the DPS, a wait and a return would be a terrible ordeal. I’m working with a group to try to arrange transportation and help with the expenses, but it shouldn’t be necessary. There was no evidence of voter fraud presented by T-booth, and judging from the exceptionally low number of document instances of voter fraud in the US and in Texas, not enough to even warrant mention, the motives of T-booth and the Legislature are abundantly clear. We’ll all be able to overcome this attempt at voter suppression, but the time and the money could be much better spent.

What birthers are to the right wing, Rachel Maddow is to the left. Sure, Mitt Romney is involved in a grand conspiracy….since he knew his one vote would have enormous clout in an election in which 2.5 million people voted.

Let me suggest some future news stories for Rachel Maddow:

BREAKING NEWS ON MSNBC: Tim Pawlenty may have jumped the turnstile on a NY subway in 1987

BREAKING NEWS ON MSNBC: Sarah Palin’s car involved in possible double-parking scandal in 1993

BREAKING NEWS ON MSNBC: Bobby Jindal has not paid overdue fine at New Orleans library — taxpayers on the hook for 42 cents

BREAKING NEWS ON MSNBC: Telescopic photo of Herman Cain shows possible jaywalking offense

BREAKING NEWS ON MSNBC: Son-in-law of Newt Gingrich’s third cousin, twice removed, arrested on a DUI

BREAKING NEWS ON MSNBC: Rick Perry gave a lousy tip at IHOP in 1991

Don’t disappoint me, Rachel — stick to your guns, and continue to investigate all these HUGE HIDDEN SCANDALS!

@ TRRK

Don’t even want to talk about it, do you? Can’t say, “they’re making people show IDs” because you know that complaint is lame.

Why are you so angry, buddy?

She renders herself ridiculous with stuff like this. Couple days ago she was bitching that the Weiner story wiped more important issues off the table. She’s a hyperpartisan hack and a hypocrite.

How about if a woman from Chicago, who lived in Arkansas, runs as a New Yorker?

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
I’m not at all sure it is that easy. Nor is it quick. A laborer would likely have to talk an entire day off work. An elderly person could well be in such a state that a trip, perhaps on a dreadful Cap Metro bus, to the DPS, a wait and a return would be a terrible ordeal. I’m working with a group to try to arrange transportation and help with the expenses, but it shouldn’t be necessary. There was no evidence of voter fraud presented by T-booth, and judging from the exceptionally low number of document instances of voter fraud in the US and in Texas, not enough to even warrant mention, the motives of T-booth and the Legislature are abundantly clear. We’ll all be able to overcome this attempt at voter suppression, but the time and the money could be much better spent.

Who’s T-booth ? I seem to recall there being a body of federal case law on voting requirements but I have spent the law few decades on much more mundane issues. Didn’t Alabama and Mississippi have some laws that were struck down back in the 40′s and 50′s?

felixw said:
What birthers are to the right wing, Rachel Maddow is to the left. Sure, Mitt Romney is involved in a grand conspiracy….since he knew his one vote would have enormous clout in an election in which 2.5 million people voted.

I am SO confused. Since when is voter fraud–actual, not imaginary–a grand conspiracy? I thought conservatives cared about voter fraud??? Or is that only when the “solution” enables the to disenfranchise unsympathetic (read: non-white, non-rich) voters?

david r said:
I’m just pointing out the hypocrisy. Just another predictable attack. Maybe we can get him out of the way without having to talk about substance. Go team, go ! I share your concerns about disenfranchising the poor coming from Mexico, and I dare say I’ve had more contact with them than you have, most likely. I don’t think it is unreasonable to require some proof of residence and identity at the polls.

Well, you failed miserably, because there is none. The only hypocrisy being displayed here is by the conservatives who spend countless hours decrying imaginary voter fraud only to turn around and defend it when it helps their cause. You are quite shameless.

lillyluminatus said:
Well, you failed miserably, because there is none. The only hypocrisy being displayed here is by the conservatives who spend countless hours decrying imaginary voter fraud only to turn around and defend it when it helps their cause. You are quite shameless.

Well, the governors of these border states don’t agree with you. And if all these Mexicans were swimming the river to come over and vote Republican, your opinion would probably be different.

lillyluminatus said:
Well, you failed miserably, because there is none. The only hypocrisy being displayed here is by the conservatives who spend countless hours decrying imaginary voter fraud only to turn around and defend it when it helps their cause. You are quite shameless.

You are right about the shameless part, though.

lillyluminatus said:
I am SO confused. Since when is voter fraud–actual, not imaginary–a grand conspiracy?

First you show me the ACTUAL facts in Maddow’s story. She is calling for an official investigation….since she has no facts, just her typical rumor, innuendo and character attacks. If she had any FACTS, she would report them. And without any FACTS, all you have is a theory. And a pathetic one at that.

And all this from the same woman who was bending over backwards to create excuses for Rep. Weiner a few days ago? And then when Weiner admitted he was guilty, she brings in LARRY FLYNT(!!!!????!!!) as the ethics expert.

What a sad joke this lady has become.

felixw said:
First you show me the ACTUAL facts in Maddow’s story. She is calling for an official investigation….since she has no facts, just her typical rumor, innuendo and character attacks. If she had any FACTS, she would report them. And without any FACTS, all you have is a theory. And a pathetic one at that.

And all this from the same woman who was bending over backwards to create excuses for Rep. Weiner a few days ago? And then when Weiner admitted he was guilty, she brings in LARRY FLYNT(!!!!????!!!) as the ethics expert.

What a sad joke this lady has become.

Are you kidding me? How on earth do you suggest the “facts” are gathered without an official investigation? And there is only ONE FACT that is relevant–whether or not a multi-millionaire with mansions across the country was primarily residing in his son’s unfinished basement. Again, let me show you this wonderful farm for sale…

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
Sure, it doesn’t matter when it’s some rich White guy or some White expatriate, but for elderly voters, African American voters, Hispanic voters, Holocaust surviving voters and young voters, this is scarcely anything more important. Just look at all of the states which have passed voter suppression laws this years to disenfranchise, disqualify and discourage voting by these groups. Texas alone now has a draconian Voter Suppression Law, with a huge, beefy hand reaching out to slap down any Hispanic American who has the temerity to vote. Just fine with you, I am sure.

WTH does that have to do with this, AT ALL? He didn’t have a permanent residence, and used his brothers home as an address, so he could continue to vote in his state. Did he vote multiple times? Did he suppress AA’s, elders, Hispanics or Holocaust voters in ANY WAY? No. Don’t be such an id iot. I know, it’s hard, but do try.

felixw said:
First you show me the ACTUAL facts in Maddow’s story. She is calling for an official investigation….since she has no facts, just her typical rumor, innuendo and character attacks. If she had any FACTS, she would report them. And without any FACTS, all you have is a theory. And a pathetic one at that.

And all this from the same woman who was bending over backwards to create excuses for Rep. Weiner a few days ago? And then when Weiner admitted he was guilty, she brings in LARRY FLYNT(!!!!????!!!) as the ethics expert.

What a sad joke this lady has become.

lillyluminatus said:
Are you kidding me? How on earth do you suggest the “facts” are gathered without an official investigation?

Thanks for confirming my point.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
I suppose if the “illegals” are as interested in voting as my rightist reactionary friends say they are, the real winners will be the Anglo vendors selling fake Green Cards and Drivers’ Licenses at the Flea Markets and in the Fiesta parking lots.

Illegal Immigrants Are Voting in American Elections
http://www.thecuttingedgenews.com/index.php?article=691

Non-Citizen Voting in Federal Elections
http://www.fairus.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=16957&security=1601&news_iv_ctrl=1010

Little to stop illegal aliens from voting
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2004/sep/23/20040923-104542-8488r/

writer said:
How about if a woman from Chicago, who lived in Arkansas, runs as a New Yorker?

Hillary established residence in NY prior to her run for the Senate when the Clintons bought a house there.
She met the NYS residency requirements. Believe it, Rick Lazio’s camp would have noticed if she did not.

But, Romney living in an unfinished basement? Doesn’t pass the smell test.
I thought you Flintstones were all against voter fraud? Isn’t using a false address fraud?
Kerry got in trouble for mooring his boat in RI to avoid taxes.
Romney owns estates in La Jolla, Ca., and NH., but pays no taxes in Mass.–his “home” state.

david r said:
Who’s T-booth ? I seem to recall there being a body of federal case law on voting requirements but I have spent the law few decades on much more mundane issues. Didn’t Alabama and Mississippi have some laws that were struck down back in the 40’s and 50’s?

Go back to school and demand a refund. The 1965 Voting Rights Act finally outlawed “literacy” tests, which were use to eliminate minority voters.

Glackin said:
Hillary established residence in NY prior to her run for the Senate when the Clintons bought a house there.
She met the NYS residency requirements. Believe it, Rick Lazio’s camp would have noticed if she did not.

But, Romney living in an unfinished basement? Doesn’t pass the smell test.
I thought you Flintstones were all against voter fraud? Isn’t using a false address fraud?
Kerry got in trouble for mooring his boat in RI to avoid taxes.
Romney owns estates in La Jolla, Ca., and NH., but pays no taxes in Mass.–his “home” state.

Silly, Glackin. Republicans aren’t against voter fraud; they are for voter disenfranchisement. As long, of course, as those voters are voting for someone else.

felixw said:
Thanks for confirming my point.

I repeat, there are two relevant facts in this situation, one of which we know and the other of which should be of concern to anyone who cares about the integrity of our political system: 1. Where did he vote? (Massachusetts). 2. Where did he live? (In his son’s unfinished basement?! Really?!)

Believe it or not, common sense can sometimes come in handy.

ImNotBlue said:
@ TRRK

Please clarify these terrible voter laws. Are you upset that people will have to show ID? Is that the problem? I’m unaware of these specific concerns.

Some of the laws seek to shorten early voting periods, the sole point of which is to prevent early voters from voting (who tend to be lower income and therefore cannot get off work on election day, and–shock of shocks–often vote Democratic).

Others prevent anyone from registering to vote without a birth certificate or passport. Considering that most people register to vote on whim, outside their local grocery store or the like, this necessarily will prevent droves of voters from ever registering. This is particularly offensive when considering the tragically low voter turnout of US elections compared to other countries. In Germany, for instance, citizens are automatically registered to vote upon turning 18. Naturally, this produces far greater voter turnout–above 80%. This would never happen in this country, however, because younger voters tend to vote Democratic.

The other laws require government I.D. at the polling booth–which seems harmless in theory, until you realize that some 20% of the American populace does not have government I.D.

The only thing these laws do not do is address the (by far) easiest opportunity to commit voter fraud–absentee ballots. This is quite to be expected, though, because absentee ballots generally tilt Republican fairly strongly.

lillyluminatus said:
Are you kidding me? How on earth do you suggest the “facts” are gathered without an official investigation?

Sure, Rachel wants to go on a FISHING EXPEDITION. Same reason why she devoted so much time to poring over 24,000 EMAILS BY SARAH PALIN. Same reason why others wanted to see the President’s LONG FOR BIRTH CERTIFICATE. Hence my original comment

felixw said:
What birthers are to the right wing, Rachel Maddow is to the left. Sure, Mitt Romney is involved in a grand conspiracy….since he knew his one vote would have enormous clout in an election in which 2.5 million people voted.

Let me suggest some future news stories for Rachel Maddow:

BREAKING NEWS ON MSNBC: Tim Pawlenty may have jumped the turnstile on a NY subway in 1987

BREAKING NEWS ON MSNBC: Sarah Palin’s car involved in possible double-parking scandal in 1993

BREAKING NEWS ON MSNBC: Bobby Jindal has not paid overdue fine at New Orleans library — taxpayers on the hook for 42 cents

BREAKING NEWS ON MSNBC: Telescopic photo of Herman Cain shows possible jaywalking offense

BREAKING NEWS ON MSNBC: Son-in-law of Newt Gingrich’s third cousin, twice removed, arrested on a DUI

BREAKING NEWS ON MSNBC: Rick Perry gave a lousy tip at IHOP in 1991

Don’t disappoint me, Rachel — stick to your guns, and continue to investigate all these HUGE HIDDEN SCANDALS!

Glackin said:
but pays no taxes in Mass.–his “home” state.

How do you know? let’s see a credible source for that. We own homes in two states, half year here, half there, our autos are titled and licensed in Illinois, we pay Illinois income taxes and are registered to vote in Ill and won’t change our voter registration to the other state until we give up the IL home and permantly reside in the other state, our choice.

Residing in the son’s basement is a red herring, even homeless people are allowed to vote. They kept their Massachusetts residency, even Talking Points Memo acknowledges that:

Romney spokesman Eric Fehrnstrom said despite selling his home in Belmont last year, Romney never gave up his Massachusetts residency. When he is in the state he stays with his son Tagg.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/01/romney-voted-in-mass-primary-using-sons-address.php?ref=dcblt

lillyluminatus said:
Are you kidding me? How on earth do you suggest the “facts” are gathered without an official investigation? And there is only ONE FACT that is relevant–whether or not a multi-millionaire with mansions across the country was primarily residing in his son’s unfinished basement. Again, let me show you this wonderful farm for sale…

There’s nothing to investigate. There are multiple home owners all across this country, we also have many, many voters RESIDING abroad. He has maintained his Massachusetts residency and is eligible to vote in Massachusetts. No amount of lefty babbling is going to change that fact but, I’m sure you will carry on.

Rio said:
There’s nothing to investigate. There are multiple home owners all across this country, we also have many, many voters RESIDING abroad. He has maintained his Massachusetts residency and is eligible to vote in Massachusetts. No amount of lefty babbling is going to change that fact but, I’m sure you will carry on.

Don’t confuse the liberals here with facts. Anyone can see that Maddow had no facts to justify this segment, just innuendo and pre-packaged liberal indignation. Of course, if she was concerned about voting fraud, she would have looked, years ago, at Acorn or at Black Panthers intimidating voters at the polling booth. But she ignores real fraud and plays these transparently partisan games instead.

Maddow is simply good for a laugh nowadays. Reasonable people have come to the conclusion that she is incapable of honest punditry or real journalism, and is just a party hack putting out the spin or disinformation du jour.

Rio said:
How do you know? let’s see a credible source for that. We own homes in two states, half year here, half there, our autos are titled and licensed in Illinois, we pay Illinois income taxes and are registered to vote in Ill and won’t change our voter registration to the other state until we give up the IL home and permantly reside in the other state, our choice.

Residing in the son’s basement is a red herring, even homeless people are allowed to vote. They kept their Massachusetts residency, even Talking Points Memo acknowledges that:

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/01/romney-voted-in-mass-primary-using-sons-address.php?ref=dcblt

There’s nothing to investigate. There are multiple home owners all across this country, we also have many, many voters RESIDING abroad. He has maintained his Massachusetts residency and is eligible to vote in Massachusetts. No amount of lefty babbling is going to change that fact but, I’m sure you will carry on.

He DOESN’T HAVE a Mass. residence! You said it, he “stays with his son.”
In Mass., you can register as living “on the streets of Boston” and vote.
But, if you maintain residence in another state, you can’t vote here.

Glackin said:
He DOESN’T HAVE a Mass. residence! You said it, he “stays with his son.”In Mass., you can register as living “on the streets of Boston” and vote.But, if you maintain residence in another state, you can’t vote here.

Oh really? Then, why did MA clerks have trouble with out-of-state voters:

There were young voters who registered at a rock concert and whose forms never made it to their town clerk’s office, and out-of-state voters who tried to file provisional ballots in Massachusetts. Area town clerks heard so many tales of woe and ignorance last Tuesday that some are considering pushing the Legislature to pass a ”voters’ responsibilities bill.”

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/president/articles/2004/11/11/ballot_woes_spur_call_for_education/

Staying with his son, does not make his residency ineligble, besides, he HAS a residence in Massachusetts, he closed on a condo in March. That’s why I referred to the Romney’s being “in between homes.

Show me the voter law that states that Massachusetts voters with multiple out of state homes you can’t vote in Massachusetts.

Rio said:
Oh really? Then, why did MA clerks have trouble with out-of-state voters:

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/president/articles/2004/11/11/ballot_woes_spur_call_for_education/

Staying with his son, does not make his residency ineligble, besides, he HAS a residence in Massachusetts, he closed on a condo in March. That’s why I referred to the Romney’s being “in between homes.

Show me the voter law that states that Massachusetts voters with multiple out of state homes you can’t vote in Massachusetts.

Romney bought his condo in March 2011. He sold his old home in 2009. He voted for Scott Brown in 2010.
This is the second time Romney has played fast and lose with the residency law. When he ran for Gov., he was ALLOWED to pay seven years of taxes to the state, since he had not resided in the state for the required seven years.
The point is, there are different laws for rich people.

A (BLACK) woman and her father went to JAIL for LYING ABOUT RESIDENCY in committing the evil of sending her kids to a different school.
HYENAS ACROSS THE NATION howled SHE BROKE THE LAW, DAMMIT and DEMANDED the HARSHEST POSSIBLE PUNISHMENT for this (BLACK) mother.

Mitt Romney claims his mansions were left vacant while he lived in an unfinished concrete basement, to vote legally in Mass. A GOP is saying BS!!!