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Katie Couric: Maybe We Need A Muslim Version Of The Cosby Show

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As 2010 comes to a close, the media industry is taking its annual breather to reflect upon all the things it had to cover in the past year. Katie Couric, in her CBSNews.com review of 2010, highlighted the controversy surrounding the Park51 project. “The bigotry expressed against Muslims in this country has been one of the most disturbing stories to surface,” she told her panel. In that media narrative, she saw “a seething hatred many people feel for all Muslims,” which she theorized could be remedied by another, more lighthearted narrative: “Maybe we need a Muslim version of The Cosby Show.”

She came to the situationally comedic solution after offering this take on American Islamophobia:

I also think sort of the chasm between, or, the bigotry expressed against Muslims in this country has been one of the most disturbing stories to surface this year. Of course, a lot of noise was made about the Islamic Center, mosque, down near the World Trade Center, but I think there wasn’t enough sort of careful analysis and evaluation of where this bigotry toward 1.5 billion Muslims worldwide, and how this seething hatred many people feel for all Muslims, which I think is so misdirected, and so wrong—and so disappointing.

So could funny Muslims in even funnier sweaters be the answer? “I know that sounds crazy,” she said, “But The Cosby Show did so much to change attitudes about African-Americans in this country, and I think sometimes people are afraid of what they don’t understand—like you, Mo.” She was referring to Daily Show veteran and NPR regular Mo Rocca, who was present for the discussion. A Harvard alumnus, Rocca shamefully confessed that despite having attended “really fancy schools,” he knows basically “nothing about Islam.”

The two then “totally agree[d]” that “religion should be taught as an academic subject in public schools.” A funny solution, given that Rocca had just admitted-slash-joked that even his expensive private schooling had been insufficient.

But not as funny as a Muslim Cosby Show! Of course, there would be one catch: we’d need a Muslim Bill Cosby. Do we have one, America? I don’t know, but one thing is for sure: Aziz Ansari would make a great Theo Huxtable.

Watch Couric pitch America’s next hit sitcom in the @katiecouric clip below.

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  • TeaPartyPatriot

    “Katie Couric: Maybe We Need A Muslim Version Of The Cosby Show”

    After his defeat in Nov 2012, “You Lie!” hussein will be the PERFECT star for this show – he won’t even have to act, just be himself.

  • Jon Bershad

    It’s not a particularly crazy idea. If there was a show about a relatable Muslim family that was as popular as The Cosby Show, it would do wonders for Islamic relations in the country. Of course, now a days, no show could possibly be as popular as Cosby was in its heights.

    To see if the Cosby effect still works in these days of hundreds of channels and niche audiences, lets see if the gay couple on Modern Family does anything to change the minds of its audience.

  • moriarty70

    Canada already has one of these. It’s called “Little Mosque On The Prairie”. It’s actually about a little town that has both a Christian and Muslim congregation, who mostly get along.

    It’s even got some actors you’d recognize but didn’t realize were Canadian. Still, I think it’d work wonders for the States as well.

  • http://www.mediaite.com Ray Rahman

    Jon Bershad said:
    It’s not a particularly crazy idea. If there was a show about a relatable Muslim family that was as popular as The Cosby Show, it would do wonders for Islamic relations in the country. Of course, now a days, no show could possibly be as popular as Cosby was in its heights.

    To see if the Cosby effect still works in these days of hundreds of channels and niche audiences, lets see if the gay couple on Modern Family does anything to change the minds of its audience.

    Yeah, I don’t think it’s that crazy of an idea either. In fact, there already was a show on, like, WB or something called “Aliens In America” about a Muslim exchange student staying with some all-American family in the Midwest or somewhere. There was no fuss about it, other than how unfunny it was.

    “Modern Family” is, thankfully, funny, but I feel like Ellen DeGeneres has done more for media representation of gays than any prime-time sitcom ever could?

  • Harry Flashman

    Would someone please show me where all that bigotry is?

    Are Muslims denied an education? No.

    Are Muslims excluded from fair housing? No.

    Are Muslims denied the right to worship as they see fit? No. (And don’t use the ground zero Mosque as an example. The church at the scene has been denied permits to rebuild. Goose, sauce. Tough.)

    Is there random violence against Muslims? No.

    Are Muslims discriminated against in our legal system? No.

    Now, replace the word “Muslim” with “Christian” and place the question in ANY MUSLIM COUNTRY IN THE WORLD and tell me what you come up with.

    Is Katie Couric an idiot? Yes.

  • Penguin60

    I know the Odd Couple convinced me that slobs are really OK.

  • ChrisNH

    If Hollywood Leftist elites didn’t care about ‘profits’ and ‘ratings’ and ‘ad revenue’ a ‘Muslim Cosby Show’ might work. But despite their protestations about ‘millionaires’ and ‘billionaires,’ Hollywood Leftists DO like the idea of ‘profits’ so they can become those ‘millionaires’ and ‘billionaires’ they supposedly hate. And because they lust after profits, you won’t be seeing any ‘Muslim Cosby Show’ any time in Kathryn Couric’s Leftist elite lifetime. And that, as they say, is that.

  • Call_Me_Ishmael
  • Hugo Daun

    Katie Couric said:
    Maybe we need a Muslim version of The Cosby Show.

    Couldn’t be much less funny than the original…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Stribley/502726438 Robert Stribley
  • murf

    Got to love the ” deep thinking glasses ” Katie is rockin’ ..ugh

    Harry Flashman said:
    Would someone please show me where all that bigotry is?

    Are Muslims denied an education? No.

    Are Muslims excluded from fair housing? No.

    Are Muslims denied the right to worship as they see fit? No. (And don’t use the ground zero Mosque as an example. The church at the scene has been denied permits to rebuild. Goose, sauce. Tough.)

    Is there random violence against Muslims? No.

    Are Muslims discriminated against in our legal system? No.

    Now, replace the word “Muslim” with “Christian” and place the question in ANY MUSLIM COUNTRY IN THE WORLD and tell me what you come up with.

    Is Katie Couric an idiot? Yes.

    Well said, let’s not forget the fact Jews and Christians are targeted by hate crimes A LOT more.

  • Harry Flashman

    Robert Stribley:

    I’ll see you every one of those stories up there and raise you at least one concerning discrimination towards Christianity right down to churches being vandalized and burned. Not only that, over 66% of hate crimes in the US are directed at JEWS, not Muslims.

    In fact, the hate crimes towards Jews in the US total more that 10 times the number of hate crimes towards Muslims, but for some reason our media doesn’t seem to pick up on that.

    The source for those numbers are the FBI crime statistics for 2008. Google those while you’re selectively goolgling in defense of Muslims.

    Who’s being intellectually dishonest?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Stribley/502726438 Robert Stribley

    Nonsense “murf” – see above.

  • murmur55

    Maybe we shouldn’t be using the media to spread the malignant memeplexes of religion.

  • Harry Flashman

    murf:

    I was typing the above when you posted. Yes, there ARE many more hate crimes directed at Christians and Jews, but that is an inconvenient fact for the left. Again, check the stats at the FBI sites for verification of what I’m saying.

    Facts are a bitch, aren’t they?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Stribley/502726438 Robert Stribley

    Harry, can you even show me *one* link to an article about someone being beaten for being a Christian in the United States? Can you show me *one* link to an article about Christians being denied a church in their own community? Even one? Because even if you could show me one (and I doubt you can), I can show you ten for every one, which indicate Muslims are far more persecuted in our society, than Christians.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    I would just love the scene where the father kills his daughter for dating a Jew. That would ge lots of laughs.

  • murf
  • felixw

    A very revealing comment from Ms. Couric — letting us all see that members of the establishment media view television primarily as a mechanism of propaganda and social advocacy, rather than truth-telling. Katie has the right to hold this opinion, but it is diametrically opposed to the most basic ethical tenets of the profession of journalist. Those of us familiar with the long, sordid history of CBS News will hardly be surprised, but the average viewer at home should mull long and hard over what kind of news they will get from a “reporter” who holds such a viewpoint.

  • Harry Flashman

    Robert Stribley:

    I’d say that churches being burned is pretty much a denial. Are you saying there is NO discrimination against Christians in the US?

    And, yeah, you can show me articles about Muslims being persecuted becuase that’s what the media seizes upon. Check the FBI stats for the real numbers. But – you won’t do that. You’re content to let the biased media do the talking for you.

    You’re the one being intellectually dishonest here.

  • Obeezy

    If the Cosby show changed the attitude towards African Americans, Obama changed it back pretty quickly

  • Grammie

    Robert Stribley said:
    Which Christians have been denied a church to worship in?

    I believe he is speaking of the Greek Orthodox Church that has been denied permits to rebuild the original spire that was lost on 9/11 and other obstacles. As he said, sauce-goose-gander.

    “I also think sort of the chasm, between, or the bigotry expressed against Muslims in this country has been one of the most disturbing stories to surface this year”

    “a seething hatred many people feel for all Muslims,””

    I take exception to both these statements. Intractable unemployment, record breaking rates of foreclosures, cities and states teetering on the edge of bankruptcy, a sharp increase in homegrown terrorism, rapidly rising food and fuel and medical costs and Katie is worried b/c so many Americans think the near ground zero Mosque is not appropriate and a different site is preferable is bothering her?

    Seething hatred? By many? Based upon what actions in what numbers?

  • BatBoy

    Robert Stribley said:
    @Harry A brief education/reality check for you: http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/08/30/fear-spreads-after-fire-at-tennessee-mosque-site/http://gothamist.com/2010/10/11/four_staten_island_teens_arrested_f.phphttp://www.silive.com/news/index.ssf/2010/10/young_student_endures_the_torm.htmlhttp://gothamist.com/2010/07/22/staten_island_mosque_voted_down.phphttp://abcnews.go.com/WN/murfreesboro-tennessee-mosque-plan-draws-criticism-residents/story?id=10956381http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/08/residents-cheer-town-rejects-mosque/http://www.democracynow.org/2010/8/26/headlines/islamic_center_vandalized_in_california_kentucky_board_rejects_mosquehttp://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/08/09/texas-islamic-center-president-says-vandals-targeting-mosque-ground-zero/http://www.examiner.com/islamic-in-national/hate-mongering-bears-fruit-arlington-mosque-vandalizedhttp://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/08/25/99652/california-mosque-vandalized-ground.htmlhttp://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/09/08/20100908phoenix-mosque-vandalized-abrk.htmlhttp://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-mosque-vandals,0,194500.story Those stories are from all over the country and there’s plenty more where that came from. Now, which Christian do you see beaten for being Christians in the United States?Which Christians have been denied a church to worship in? Now, would you like to re-evaluate your position? Or are you going to maintain an intellectually dishonest position now?

    Here you doofus
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/14/sarah-palin-church-fire-p_n_150825.html
    http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=124615
    http://www.newsday.com/long-island/nassau/nativity-scene-vandalized-at-bellmore-church-1.2554913
    There, I am one up on you.

    Get out from under the rock you live under and open your eyes…

    Now, would you like to re-evaluate your position? Or are you going to maintain an intellectually dishonest position now?

  • Big Eddie

    Why don’t they try one in Europe , which is being overrun by islam ?
    Maybe they should quit being offended , get a sense of decency and stop the radicals from what they’re doing or at least loudly condemn their actions .
    When there’s a goal of world domination , ” infidels ” converting or submitting and Shariah law for all , it’s not something that can be glossed over by a TV show .
    It’s a battle with no end .

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Stribley/502726438 Robert Stribley

    The sentiments of uniformed commenters like gordon, harry and murf are examples of why this show might actually be a good idea. They know so little about Islam, make strings of assertions about Islam, which simply don’t reflect the reality of life in the United States, then go on their merry, privileged way. Perhaps in the same way that people’s attitudes towards homosexuality tend to change once they actually *know* a gay person, attitudes towards Muslims can change, too, once such individuals are given a reality check.

    And the very idea of Christians claiming to be discriminated against or oppressed in this largely Christian society is absolutely hilarious and a perfect example how blindered the ruling majority can be.

    Gallup: Knowing Someone Gay/Lesbian Affects Views of Gay Issues
    http://www.gallup.com/poll/118931/knowing-someone-gay-lesbian-affects-views-gay-issues.aspx

  • Big Eddie

    BatBoy said:
    Get out from under the rock you live under and open your eyes…

    Seconded .

  • murf
  • btimsah

    Hey, what about this. What if we just stop intervening in the Middle East and causing blow-back instead?

  • Obeezy

    Big Eddie said:
    Why don’t they try one in Europe , which is being overrun by islam ?
    Maybe they should quit being offended , get a sense of decency and stop the radicals from what they’re doing or at least loudly condemn their actions .
    When there’s a goal of world domination , ” infidels ” converting or submitting and Shariah law for all , it’s not something that can be glossed over by a TV show .
    It’s a battle with no end .

    So true..Why is it that you never see Muslims speaking out against Muslim terrorists? Im sure it would go along way if they ( if there are any) became more vocal, and not by goofing off on a tv show

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Stribley/502726438 Robert Stribley

    Grammie: the rebuilding of a Greek Orthodox Church in Lower Manhattan has absolutely ZERO to do with religious discrimination. Can you show me *one* case where Christians are being prevented from building a church in the United States simply because they’re Christians? Of course not.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Stribley/502726438 Robert Stribley

    Obeezy: “Why is it that you never see Muslims speaking out against Muslim terrorists?”

    Perhaps because you’re never paying attention when they do?

  • Penguin60

    Robert Stribley said:
    Now, would you like to re-evaluate your position? Or are you going to maintain an intellectually dishonest position now?

    Same question.

    http://www.sfexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/surprise-more-hate-crimes-against-christians-against-muslims

    http://www2.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2009/data/table_01.html

  • Harry Flashman

    Penguin60 and murf:

    You’re confusing the issue with facts. Don’t expect a leftist ideologue to check the links you provided. It’s easier to say “NUH-UH” and stick their fingers in their ears.

    Facts are so…inconvenient.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Stribley/502726438 Robert Stribley

    Murf, do you even read the stuff you link to? And this applies to you, too, Harry:

    “Given our large Christian population, it’s true that each Christian is far less likely to be victimized”

    That means Muslims are victimized at a greater rate than Christians. There are far less Muslims, so the % of the total is less, but the percentage relative to their number is *higher.*

    Thanks for making my case for me with your own *evidence.*

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Stribley/502726438 Robert Stribley

    “Facts are so…inconvenient.”

    You said it, Harry. No just learn how to analyze them properly.

    And you still haven’t been able to prove to me there’s a single case of Christians being denied a place to worship due to religious discrimination.

    No evidence which actually supports your case. No legitimate arguments. I rest my case.

  • Penguin60

    Robert Stribley said:
    Harry, can you even show me *one* link to an article about someone being beaten for being a Christian in the United States? Can you show me *one* link to an article about Christians being denied a church in their own community? Even one? Because even if you could show me one (and I doubt you can), I can show you ten for every one, which indicate Muslims are far more persecuted in our society, than Christians.

    Robert Stribley said:
    Thanks for making my case for me with your own *evidence.*

    Really?

  • Harry Flashman

    Still stuck on that ONE facet of the issue, eh? Hanging onto it like a drowning man ona log because it is the only argument you have in the overall picture.

    You know, the left is the crew that will stand out in a blizzrd and freeze to death while telling us how evil we are for denying global warming, so your take on this issue isn’t surprising.

    Gotta go now. Dinner and fresh Gulf seafood beckons. Then I think I’ll find a Muslim to victimize.

    Bye now.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Stribley/502726438 Robert Stribley

    Did you even read my point, Penguin? Harry’s statistic proves that Muslims are more likely to be victims of hate crimes than Christians, considering their numbers in the United States. The irony is rich.

  • ImNotBlue

    Robert Stribley said:
    Harry, can you even show me *one* link to an article about someone being beaten for being a Christian in the United States? Can you show me *one* link to an article about Christians being denied a church in their own community? Even one? Because even if you could show me one (and I doubt you can), I can show you ten for every one, which indicate Muslims are far more persecuted in our society, than Christians.

    I’m actually more interested why you completely ignored the statement that more Jews are attacked and discriminated against in the United States.

    Why doesn’t that (apparently) bother you as much as Muslims?

  • Grammie

    Robert Stribley said:
    Grammie: the rebuilding of a Greek Orthodox Church in Lower Manhattan has absolutely ZERO to do with religious discrimination. Can you show me *one* case where Christians are being prevented from building a church in the United States simply because they’re Christians? Of course not.

    “The Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America accused New York officials on Tuesday of turning their backs on the reconstruction of the only church destroyed in the Sept. 11 attacks, while the controversial mosque near Ground Zero moves forward.

    The sidelined project is the St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church, a tiny, four-story building destroyed in 2001 when one of the World Trade Center towers fell on top of it. Nobody from the church was hurt in the attack, but the congregation has for the past eight years been trying to rebuild its house of worship.

    While the mosque project cleared red tape earlier this month, negotiations between the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey and the church stalled last year — and will not be revived, according to government officials. Though the particulars of the two projects are completely different and on the surface unrelated, the church and its supporters see a disconnect in the way the proposals have been handled.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/08/17/ground-zero-church-archdiocese-says-officials-forgot/#ixzz19dMWpNzN

    If you don’t like Fox as a reference there is this from HuffPo:

    “Construction has begun on the 9/11 memorial and several of the major buildings planned for the 16-acre site, with estimated completion dates between 2011 and 2014. Little St. Nicholas, however, remains in limbo.

    Negotiations with the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey for a land swap and public funding reached an impasse more than a year ago. The stalemate is only now generating public attention due to heated protests over Park51, a proposed Islamic community center several blocks away that’s been dubbed the “Ground Zero mosque” by critics.

    “St. Nicholas has nothing to do with this mosque controversy. We believe in religious freedom, and whether the mosque should or shouldn’t be there, that’s a whole different dialogue,” said the Rev. Mark Arey, archdiocese spokesman. “But it’s a rising tide that lifts all boats. People say the mosque has been greenlighted, but why not this church?”"

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/23/ground-zero-greek-orthodo_n_691708.html

    I do think this is pertinent and the reference timely.

    I still would like to see some evidence, other than pontificating, that demonstrates this “seething hatred” that so many fellow Americans are so glibly tarred with.

  • murf

    Robert Stribley said:
    “Facts are so…inconvenient.” You said it, Harry. No just learn how to analyze them properly. And you still haven’t been able to prove to me there’s a single case of Christians being denied a place to worship due to religious discrimination. No evidence which actually supports your case. No legitimate arguments. I rest my case.

    And in Islam countries Christians and Jews have been killed by the hundreds perhaps thousands for simply being CHRISTIAN or JEW over the past year.. Blame America first though , right Bobby ?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Stribley/502726438 Robert Stribley

    Harry, I totally dismantled your argument that Christians are more likely to be victimized than Muslims – using your own statistics. I’d hardly call that stuck on a single issue. Your refusal to answer that particular issue is noted however, and I’ll take it as a tacit admission that you realize you were wrong.

    Enjoy your seafood.

  • Penguin60

    Robert Stribley said:
    Harry, can you even show me *one* link to an article about someone being beaten for being a Christian in the United States?

    I guess the above links refute that point eh? Your straw man about the Christian Churches doesn’t fly.

  • Penguin60

    ImNotBlue said:
    I’m actually more interested why you completely ignored the statement that more Jews are attacked and discriminated against in the United States.

    When confronted with facts, let’s go to the “ratio” arguement. What a load of BS.

  • Big Eddie

    Here’s a good start for you Perky Katie – Do the news wearing Muslim garb , including headcovering so just your eyes show . That will prepare us for the future . Start next Tuesday .

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Stribley/502726438 Robert Stribley

    murf:

    A. We’re talking about discrimination against Muslim here in the United States, so you’re merely changing the subject. What happens in other countries should be no yardstick for what we do here. Are you saying we should aim low?

    B. I refer you to the current death count for the war in Iraq: http://www.iraqbodycount.org/

    C. I’m not making the case that Islam or any other religion is the religion of peace. I’m no more a fan of Sharia law than you are. Or Old Testament law either. I’m simply making the case that many Americans are clueless about Islam and what most Muslims in the United States are like.

  • Scott_in_MI

    I love that one episode where the neighbor kid draws a chalk picture of Mohammed on the sidewalk and the Mr Cosby character stabs the kid ten times in his chest

  • Penguin60

    argument.

  • murf

    Robert Stribley said:
    B. I refer you to the current death count for the war in Iraq: http://www.iraqbodycount.org/

    Wow so were went to Iraq to just kill muslims because they were muslim ?

    nuff said

  • Grammie

    I shouldn’t laugh but that is so tragically incongruent that I had to.

  • TfT

    Even when she has on her “smart glasses” Katie is dumb as a white sock.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Stribley/502726438 Robert Stribley

    Penguin: “When confronted with facts, let’s go to the “ratio” arguement. What a load of BS.” All this indicates is that apparently you don’t understand Math.

    I didn’t ignore anything about the treatment of Jewish people. Hate crimes against them is just as despicable. This began, however, with Harry asserting the patently ridiculous: that *Christians* (not Jews) are more discriminated against in this society than Jewish. Which is patently absurd, not to mention impossible.

    The stats probably also indicate that Muslim are more likely to be victims of hate crimes than Jewish people, but that’s not even relevant to the argument. The point is: you as a Christian are far, far, far less likely to be the victim of a hate crime than a Muslim is.

    Your mocking “ratios” just makes you sound like Insane Clown Posse mocking scientist for explaining magnets.

  • Wisco

    murf said:
    LOL .

    http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/civilrights/hate_crimes/hate_crimes

    Thanks for the link. If we add up the percentage of anti-Christian crimes, they account for 6.4% of the total. Muslims account for 8.7% of the total.

    Christians account for 78% of the population, while Muslims account for 0.6%. Just looking at the numbers, a Muslim’s odds of being the victim of a hate crime are much, much higher than a Christian’s.

    Jews have it pretty bad though. Of all religious-based hate crimes, 71.9% were anti-Jewish. This is as bad as anti-black racial-based crimes, at 71.5%

  • Penguin60

    Robert Stribley said:
    Harry, can you even show me *one* link to an article about someone being beaten for being a Christian in the United States?

    Um, your words. You want to switch it up in the middle go right ahead.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Stribley/502726438 Robert Stribley

    “nuff said”

    Sorry, murf, but, no, that’s not an argument. Whether we went to Iraq solely with the intent to kill Muslims or not, the appearance to many is that there’s a bunch of Christians killing a bunch of Muslims. And I suspect it made selling the war and the deaths of so many innocent people much easier because they don’t look, sound or act like us.

    You also don’t respond to my other two arguments, so I assume, you have nothing to say.

  • Grammie

    Well, RS, did you see my links re the Greek Orthodox Church that is being stymied while we are just learning that it is standard practice to help facilities such as the mosque navigate the system?

    Also, I have personally seen some seething hatred in my youth and if you are going to cast your lot with Katie I would like to see some evidence of it especially since it is exhibited by “many Americans”.

  • Obeezy

    Robert Stribley said:
    Obeezy: “Why is it that you never see Muslims speaking out against Muslim terrorists?”

    Perhaps because you’re never paying attention when they do?

    Please let me know what television station or major news outlet you have seen this

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Stribley/502726438 Robert Stribley

    @Penguin60 Way to quote out of context. I also said that for every one I could show ten more to the contrary. Then I showed how the stats prove the opposite of what you were all trying to say. That should be clear by now.

    Never mind the other points I’ve raised which have remained unanswered.

    Would any of you care to offer a single case of Christians being denied a place to worship in the United States based on religious grounds?

    Would any of you care to justify the fact that Muslims are being forbidden from opening mosques in the United States? (and I’m not even talking about in NYC)

    Would any of you like to finally admit that Muslim are being discriminated against in this way and that Christians aren’t?

    Because then you could make some claim to intellectual honesty.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Stribley/502726438 Robert Stribley

    Grammie:

    “did you see my links re the Greek Orthodox Church that is being stymied”

    Yes. Did you read my response?

  • murf

    Robert Stribley said:
    the appearance to many is that there’s a bunch of Christians killing a bunch of Muslims.

    Really? Actually those in the military are jewish , christian , muslim , atheist last time I served.

    ” I’m simply making the case that many Americans are clueless about Islam and what most Muslims in the United States are like. ”

    the appearance to many is that there’s a bunch of Muslims killing a bunch of Christians.

  • OxyCon

    You know what “we” really need Couric?
    We need a pro-American network news program, which is why your ratings suck. And I love you super smart looking “I’m a left-wing intellectual” glasses…barf.

  • Phocus2

    “Katie Couric: Maybe We Need A Muslim Version Of The Cosby Show”

    “Phocus2: Maybe We Need A Real Version Of the Nightly News On CBS”

  • Grammie

    Robert Stribley said:
    Yes. Did you read my response?

    No, I don’t see anything addressed to me.

    Seething hatred? As in what incidents?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Stribley/502726438 Robert Stribley

    Pasting from above:

    Grammie: the rebuilding of a Greek Orthodox Church in Lower Manhattan has absolutely ZERO to do with religious discrimination. Can you show me *one* case where Christians are being prevented from building a church in the United States simply because they’re Christians? Of course not.

  • Grammie

    Phocus2 said:
    “Katie Couric: Maybe We Need A Muslim Version Of The Cosby Show”

    “Phocus2: Maybe We Need A Real Version Of the Nightly News On CBS”

    That is Comment of the Day material!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Stribley/502726438 Robert Stribley

    “the appearance to many is that there’s a bunch of Muslims killing a bunch of Christians.”

    And that’s the problem. Islam didn’t attack us on 9/11, Al Qaeda did. Thanks for making my case again.

    And since then we’ve killed many, many more innocent *people* in Iraq than *people* (regardless of religion) were killed in 9/11. Sorry, but that is irrefutable.

  • dummy123

    Katie Couric is an idiot!

    How about a Muslim Version Of The Cosby Show in places where women are mutilated and stoned to death!

    Katie should do her show in a Burka!

  • eiseman

    I’ll tell you what is most disturbing…it is the chasm between her ears.

  • murf

    Robert Stribley said:
    And that’s the problem. Islam didn’t attack us on 9/11, Al Qaeda did. Thanks for making my case again.

    Yep, nothing to do with Islam.

    So Robert can you name us another religion here or around the world that are being radicalized to blow themselves up and kill innocent people at an alarming rate like Islam ?

  • Penguin60

    Wisco said:
    If we add up the percentage of anti-Christian crimes, they account for 6.4% of the total. Muslims account for 8.7% of the total.

    Robert Stribley said:
    Way to quote out of context. I also said that for every one I could show ten more to the contrary. Then I showed how the stats prove the opposite of what you were all trying to say. That should be clear by now.

    Well if we go by Wiscos math, how does that add up to 10 x more to the contrary?
    I don’t think anyone here refutes there are Muslim hate crimes. Seems the media’s focus is centered on that when there are many other religous hate crimes perpetrated without much recognition.

  • Penguin60

    If the in the last 2 yrs the inept bombers were successful, would that have been considered “hate crimes’?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jim-Treacher/542957672 Jim Treacher

    We need a journalistic version of the CBS Evening News.

  • Thelonious Funk

    Would never work. ALF did nothing to change America’s mind about illegal aliens.

  • LibertySister

    What world does Katie live on,
    The Jewish Americans have more reported racist crimes against them then anyone else this last year. Where is the outcry there?
    Why do we need a sitcom for people that are less then 1% of our population?
    What is wrong with you people who fall head over heels for a culture and religion that would if they could kill every gay person and take every freedom we have worked for away from every woman out there.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Stribley/502726438 Robert Stribley

    murf, I’m not making any claims as to which religion is more or less violent – all violence perpetrated by religious types is vile; I’m simply making the case that Muslims are more discriminated against than Christians in the United States. I’d even agree that Islam shows more of a tendency to violence than other religions.

    However, you makes the case that Islam is “being radicalized to blow themselves up and kill innocent people at an alarming rate like Islam.” Have you considered that for every 1 Muslim who blows himself up, there are probably 1000 Muslims (or likely far, far more) who would never dream of doing such a thing?

    There are 1 billion Muslims in the world. If the majority of them were truly that violent, they would have obliterated the rest of us ages ago.

  • murf

    Robert Stribley said:
    I’m not making any claims as to which religion is more or less violent

    It’s pretty cut and dry

    Robert Stribley said:
    Have you considered that for every 1 Muslim who blows himself up, there are probably 1000 Muslims (or likely far, far more) who would never dream of doing such a thing?

    It only took 19 to kill 3,000 on Sept 11

  • Pokerdude777

    Jon Bershad said:
    It’s not a particularly crazy idea. If there was a show about a relatable Muslim family that was as popular as The Cosby Show, it would do wonders for Islamic relations in the country. Of course, now a days, no show could possibly be as popular as Cosby was in its heights. To see if the Cosby effect still works in these days of hundreds of channels and niche audiences, lets see if the gay couple on Modern Family does anything to change the minds of its audience.

    Neither African Americans nor Gays launched an attack on innocent civlian americans that killed 3,000. To even suggest that a TV show would improve bias toward muslims as it has improved bias toward the former two segments of the population is puerile.

  • murf

    Robert Stribley said:
    I’m simply making the case that Muslims are more discriminated against than Christians in the United States.

    Should there be a Jewish version of the Cosby Show then ?

  • skyfet

    This is is a stupid suggestion. Very dumb!

  • Grammie

    Robert Stribley said:
    Pasting from above:

    Grammie: the rebuilding of a Greek Orthodox Church in Lower Manhattan has absolutely ZERO to do with religious discrimination. Can you show me *one* case where Christians are being prevented from building a church in the United States simply because they’re Christians? Of course not.

    In that case I posit that the opposition to the Mosque also has nothing to do with religious discrimination.

    Every poll that I have seen on the subject shows the American people overwhelmingly support the right to build it but object to it on sensitivity grounds.

    That being said Islamic Nations, unlike modern Western nations, and the Islamic religion are so tightly woven together as to be indistinguishable to both Muslims and Westerners alike. My objection is based on that unified aspect of Muslims. As St Thomas More once said; One should never tell the King what he can do but rather what he ought do” They can but they shouldn’t.

    I am also put off that NYC is actively cutting red tape and greasing the skids for the Mosque while St Nicholas twists in the wind.

    Seething hatred on my part? Religious bigotry? Zenophobic nationalism? Or that I simply don’t take kindly to what I perceive as a deliberate in your face act by some because they can and they enjoy it.

    I took me awhile to find this. Strangely, or maybe not given our obsessive mea culpa national personality, there are not nearly as many plols about American Muslim attitudes towards America as vice versa.

    “In 2007 the Pew Research Center published a major study on an array of subjects concerning Muslim Americans. The findings estimated that 1 percent of the 2.3 million Muslims living in the United States believed that suicide bombings against civilian targets were “often justified,” and that 7 percent felt such attacks were “sometimes justified.” Extrapolating those numbers, Zuhdi Jasser, founder and Chairman of the Arizona-based American Islamic Forum for Democracy, concluded that there were an estimated 184,000 potential Islamist terrorists in the United States.

    The Pew study further found that 26 percent of Muslim respondents younger than 30 felt that jihad could be justified at least “rarely.” Moreover, 5 percent of Muslim Americans expressed “somewhat favorable opinions of Al Qaeda.” Conversely, 52 percent of native-born Muslims and 36 percent of African American Muslims reported that they had a “strong hostility” toward Al Qaeda.”

    http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=487

  • TristramShandy

    What about “West Side Mosque,” or “I left My Mosque In San Francisco,” or “Gone With The Mosque,” or “A Tree Grows In The Mosque,” or maybe even “The Little Mosque Around The Corner,” what about “Catcher In The Mosque.”

  • lazzzlo

    As St Thomas More once said; One should never tell the King what he can do but rather what he ought do”

    Good quote…not the greatest context but good quote.

  • dummy123

    The Ground Zero Mosque should be built in the Hamptons.
    Katie,Matt Lauer and Harry Smith could stop by for a cuddle party….and bring them bagels.

  • SWWT

    So Muslims are discriminated against, so are Christians and Jews…

    So… everybody should just be nicer to everybody?

  • Big Eddie

    skyfet said:
    This is is a stupid suggestion. Very dumb!

    Even skyfet thinks Katie’s idea is stupid . What does that tell you ?

  • nrXic

    I love how the people arguing with Robert are only proving his point.

    The fact that people are blaming the religion of Islam for what happened on 9/11, is evidence that America DOES need to be educated, and a television show just might do that.

    Grammie said: “In that case I posit that the opposition to the Mosque also has nothing to do with religious discrimination.”

    What Mosque? It’s a cultural centre. Secondly, the opposition was lead by Pamela Gellar, a well known anti-Muslim bigot.

    I propose that anyone commenting on this story should first educate themselves on the topic at hand! Sheesh! It’s getting, very, very dumb in here.

  • Just4thefax

    Fact: I can’t wait:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYpl7GvqKBQ
    I love this shit!

  • Grammie

    Robert Stribley said:
    “the appearance to many is that there’s a bunch of Muslims killing a bunch of Christians.”

    And that’s the problem. Islam didn’t attack us on 9/11, Al Qaeda did. Thanks for making my case again.

    And since then we’ve killed many, many more innocent *people* in Iraq than *people* (regardless of religion) were killed in 9/11. Sorry, but that is irrefutabl

    I have to disagree with this.

    Their battle cry of Allahu akbar says it all for me. If you hear our guys going in shouting In nomine Christi I will immediately concede the point that we have have embarked on another crusade but will insist that religion is a large if not dominating motivation for the terrorists.

    As for your second point, that is a false equivalency. Even though the entire world’s intelligence re Saddam Hussein’s WMD was wrong we went to war following all the proper constitutional procedures in full view of the world and ample notice beforehand of our intentions following vigorous debate. Our soldiers are lawful uniformed combatants operating under a lawful COC following lawful orders and Rules of Combat that make every effort to spare innocents.

  • Grammie

    nrXic said:
    The fact that people are blaming the religion of Islam for what happened on 9/11, is evidence that America DOES need to be educated, and a television show just might do that.

    So, your cure for our ignorance is a television show. Is that where you got your education?

    It definitely shows!

  • Grammie

    lazzzlo said:
    Good quote…not the greatest context but good quote.

    It was a stretch but using “posit” kind of compelled me.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Jones/1384303476 Chris Jones

    Yeah, that’s what we need. A propaganda show to try and convince Americans that Muslims really don’t hate us. Why isn’t Katie concerned with the hatred and bigotry Muslims show Christians, Jews, and Americans? Why don’t we create a “Cosby Show” for that. Couric is such an idiot.

  • Just4thefax

    Fact: Finish the crusades!

  • Just4thefax

    Fact: I piss on the Koran!

  • skyfet

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: I piss on the Koran!

    I don’t think a lizard or a chameleon would want to be near a piss from a vile POS like you. It would probably kill it.

  • skyfet

    Big Eddie said:
    Even skyfet thinks Katie’s idea is stupid . What does that tell you ?

    HEY Big Head-y! speak for yourself. I speak for me, you speak for you.

  • OxyCon

    “Faizel Knows Best”

    cast:
    Faizel as “Dad”
    Saleema as “Mom”
    Abdul as “Son”
    Aisha as “Daughter”
    —————————————-
    Scene 1
    Faizel: “Abdul…you must keep a close eye on Aisha at school to make sure she isn’t dating any infidels”.
    Abdul: “Gee Pop, do I hafta?”
    (sound): WAA waa waa horns
    Faizel: “Yes son. That is a direct order from Muhamed (pbuh)”
    (audience): laughter
    ——————————————-
    Scene 2
    (Saleema and Faizel get ready to go to the store)
    Saleema: “How do I look hon? Are my eyes too revealing?”
    Faizel: “Yes, make your slit tighter or I must beat you. I don’t want too, but I will. So it is written.”
    —————————————-
    Scene 3
    (a family walk in the park)
    Faizel: “Quick! Everyone move off of the pavement! An infidel is coming walking his dirty filthy dog!”
    (audiencs): gasp with drama
    ———————————————
    Scene 4
    (junior talks to Dad about his future)
    Abdul: “Father, I do not know what I want to be when I grow older. I’d like to go to college or maybe be a Doctor. But sometimes I just get the urge to wanna blow myself up and kill as many infidels as I can.”
    (audience): laughter
    Faizel: “Ah…I remember how I felt when I was your age. The lure of being an al Queda martyr was overwhelming. But I decided to raise a few soldiers for Mohamed and try to spread the Ummah and build as many mosques over conquered infidel territory as I can.
    (audience): applause and cheer

  • Liberty Back For More

    She’s an idiot.

  • lazzzlo

    I dunno. I reference to my cousin in the Canadian government out of Ottowa. Her job is to provide services for Inuits. She used to deal with the Athabascan Inuits and now she deals with the Inuits that live in the Canadian maritime provinces.

    Sometimes, they want the money and will say thank you. They don’t want infrastructure or social services. They just want to live their lives traditionally…but millions of dollars and a couple of casinos changes people.

    I have nothing against people faith or people of different faith. I never impose my faith on anyone and I hope that people treat me with that same courtesy.

    But there still is a lot of pain involved with 9/11 and also it is some prime real estate.

    I don’t think that there is anything wrong with the mosque/cultural center.

    or do I think they just can’t wait a wee bit longer.

    Is Greg Guttgeld still going to open up his gay bar next door?

  • lazzzlo

    where is the edit button?

  • SarahP

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: I piss on the Koran!

    Of course you do. You are an ignorant racist piece of shit.

  • Pokerdude777

    Here is a TV show I would watch EVERY week.

    A must see

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sg6r0sHg5M

  • SarahP

    Liberty Back For More said:
    She’s an idiot.

    You are are a fucking moron.

  • notsofast

    skyfet said:
    skyfet says:
    December 30, 2010 at 6:52 pm skyfet(Quote)
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    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: I piss on the Koran!

    Quick, skyfart, tell him that the Koran was written by the Hebrews!

    LOL

  • SarahP

    notsofast said:
    Quick, skyfart, tell him that the Koran was written by the Hebrews!LOL

    You must be the dumbest fuck on this board. And that is something to telll vinyl Glen.

  • Pokerdude777

    SarahP said:
    You must be the dumbest fuck on this board. And that is something to telll vinyl Glen.

    you are the the most hate filled person on this board. You always spew direct sharp cutting hateful speech directed towards someone who posts their opinion…..at least they have an opinion…you rarely every post your opinion, instead opting to just quote and then post old and tired one liners. “You’re a racist”…”you’re a dumb fuck”…”you’re a homophobe”……. which is worse??? No need to quote and post on me, I’ve already heard your one liners about me….several times….search your hate dictionary and come up with something new every once in a while you square faced cum guzzler.

  • Latin2

    Just watch MEMRI TV;

    http://www.youtube.com/user/MEMRITVVideos#p/a/u/1/zfJD2BvSRkc

    They broadcast all the Muslim shows you SHOULD watch.

  • SarahP

    Pokerdude777 said:
    you are the the most hate filled person on this board. You always spew direct sharp cutting hateful speech directed towards someone who posts their opinion…..at least they have an opinion…you rarely every post your opinion, instead opting to just quote and then post old and tired one liners. “You’re a racist”…”you’re a dumb fuck”…”you’re a homophobe”……. which is worse??? No need to quote and post on me, I’ve already heard your one liners about me….several times….search your hate dictionary and come up with something new every once in a while you square faced cum guzzler.

    You are one of the most ignorant fucks ever.

  • notsofast

    SarahP said:
    SarahP says:
    December 30, 2010 at 7:53 pm SarahP(Quote)

    You are fetid waste, son.

    Below me, raw!

    LMAO

  • nrXic

    Grammie said: “So, your cure for our ignorance is a television show.”

    Consider the extremity of your ignorance, ANYTHING is better than nothing, and that includes a television show.

    I also find it funny that you attempted to comment on my education level, when I used two undisputed facts to correct two wrong statements you made in one sentence. Considering that I’m not the one espousing incorrect statements, you should probably reconsider making such comments again.

    Again, this only goes to demonstrate Robert Stribley’s point that most detractors of Couric’s opinion are simply being intellectually dishonest with themselves and everyone else.

  • SarahP

    notsofast said:
    You are fetid waste, son.Below me, raw!LMAO

    You are a far right wing fringe fuck who loves his glen beck blow up doll.

  • nrgetick

    gordonbloyershow said:
    I would just love the scene where the father kills his daughter for dating a Jew. That would ge lots of laughs.

    I thought that was from your show

  • lazzzlo

    Don’t feed the trolls.

  • nrgetick

    lazzzlo said:
    Don’t feed the trolls.

    very clever bright one

  • Pokerdude777

    SarahP said:
    You are one of the most ignorant fucks ever.

    you just made my case….thank you

  • nrgetick

    Pokerdude777 said:
    you are the the most hate filled person on this board.….search your hate dictionary and come up with something new every once in a while you square faced cum guzzler.

    lol,.,what a way to take the high road. ha ha

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    Robert Stribley said:
    The sentiments of uniformed commenters like gordon, harry and murf are examples of why this show might actually be a good idea.

    LOL, from MR. UNINFORMED. Never heard of honor killings in the U.S. eh? You sure are dumb.

  • Grammie

    Grammie said: “So, your cure for our ignorance is a television show.”

    Consider the extremity of your ignorance, ANYTHING is better than nothing, and that includes a television show.

    I also find it funny that you attempted to comment on my education level, when I used two undisputed facts to correct two wrong statements you made in one sentence. Considering that I’m not the one espousing incorrect statements, you should probably reconsider making such comments again.

    Again, this only goes to demonstrate Robert Stribley’s point that most detractors of Couric’s opinion are simply being intellectually dishonest with themselves and everyone else.

    “In April of 1962 a reception was held at the White House, honoring Nobel Prize winners from all over the western hemisphere. Addressing the assembled dignitaries, President John Kennedy commented, “I think this is the most extraordinary collection of talent, of human knowledge, that has ever been gathered together at the White House – with the possible exception of when Thomas Jefferson dined alone.”

    Read more at Suite101: Thomas Jefferson’s Guiding Principles http://www.suite101.com/content/thomas-jeffersons-guiding-principles-a284555#ixzz19eHQqfeB

    nrXic said:”

    If only President Kennedy had known of you he would not have elevated Jefferson to your rightful spot!

    I would offer my high praises to you if only I thought myself the least bit worthy to even lift my eyes up to behold your dazzling brilliance.

  • Latin2

    “Faizel Knows Best”

    cast:
    Faizel as “Dad”
    Saleema as “Mom”
    Abdul as “Son”
    Aisha as “Daughter”
    Moshe as “Neighbor (Mossad Agent)
    —————————————-
    Scene 1
    Abdul: “Baba, there is a new neighbor next door. I met him and his name is Moshe Shapiro”.
    Faizel: “There goes the neighborhood”
    Abdul: “Do you think he is a Mossad agent, baba?”
    Faizel: “All Jews are Mossad agents, I think that is a must in the Principles of Zion”
    (sound): WAA waa waa horns
    Abdul: “Baba!! That is the PROTOCOLS of Zion…gee whiz”
    (audience): laughter
    ——————————————-
    Scene 2
    (Faziel is downstairs on the computer, Saleema walks in)
    Saleema: “Are you on MuslimSingles.com looking for a 2nd wife again, Faziel?”
    Faizel: “Don’t speak to me like that or I will beat you, like Muhammad (pbuh) said I should. I am asking how to kill Jews from my friends on the Anti-American Muslim message boards.”
    Saleema: “AGAIN…you have been doing that every since you got the computer, You know that Kuffur Napalitano is watching you”
    Laugh track.
    Faziel: “No, this time there is a JEW living next door, Abdul saw him”
    Saleema faints
    —————————————-
    Scene 3
    (Faziel is outside watering the grass, and suddenly Mr. Shapiro walks by on the sidewalk)
    Faizel: “Hello there swine, I mean monkey…I mean Jewish guy”
    Laugh track
    Faizel: “i am your neighbor Faizel Abdullah Ibn Ishaq, welcome, welcome to the neighborhood. My wife Saleema is making up a SPECIAL batch of her babaganoosh just for you. One bite is to DIE FOR. So you bought the house next door?”
    Mr. Shapiro: “Hell, no. I am the real estate agent and I have been trying to sell this dump, but everytime buyers see you dressed like a 7th century idiot and your wife covered up from head to toe in a black sheet, no one wants to buy it. I am having a heck of time selling this place. Could you and your wife please stay in doors when buyers come by.”
    Faizel: “That is racist. I am calling my local CAIR office and talk to Mr. Usama Al-Haq, and he will make humus out of you”
    Mr. Shapiro: “Mr. Al-Haq IS the owner of the property and he is the one who told me to tell you this. Your clownish garb is scaring away potential buyers”
    Waa-waah.laughter
    ———————————————
    Scene 4
    (Faziel on the phone)
    Faziel: “Mr. Al-Haq, brother, why did you tell that Jew that we are embarrassing? We are only following Sharia Law. Yes we have to be more stealthy to trick the Liberals, but I am practicing Sharia..yes…yes…good bye ”
    Saleema: “What did Mr. Al-Haq from CAIR say?”
    Faziel: “He said we have to be more ‘stealthy’ till we get the upper hand and quit being so open about our true hatred of the U.S. and western culture”
    (Faziel gets on the phone again and starts dialing)
    Saleema: “Who are you calling now?”
    Faziel: “I am going higher than CAIR…Hello CBS…can I speak to Ms. Katie Couric”
    (audience) laughing and clapping

  • Grammie

    Wekk, looky there.

    I was so overwhelmed just contemplating your greatness I failed to properly edit my comment.

    I’m sure you’ve long become accustomed to your inferiors being. well, inferior.

    In closing, might I say one more thing. You are as big a horse’s ass as any I’ve encountered in a long time.

  • lazzzlo

    gordonbloyershow said:
    LOL, from MR. UNINFORMED. Never heard of honor killings in the U.S. eh? You sure are dumb.

    Honor killings are illegal.

    You sure are dumb.

  • Brian Mophtali

    Just the fact that we have ignorant sick hate monger right wingers here commenting, is the supreme evidence that Muslims are under attack, and discriminated against. We need all Muslim TV shows that we can have.

    Only people that are less educated that make a lots of noise, just as the French said “Only empty barrels make a lots of noise! Educate yourself, get out of 2 or 3 jobs and go to school, get out of going to bars and stay there all day long in your days off thinking it’s the ideal place to learn from. go to school, buy books read about the world, and try to save some money so you can travel and see other countries possibly Arab and Muslim countries. Get to know the world, cause there are hundreds of other countries out there in this planet not only the U.S. and don’t forget our gov does not want you know about all this. More you are ignorant more they can control you. If you noticed, lately everything is shifting East, since our economy has been destroyed by the right wing criminals!

  • Brian Mophtali

    Just the fact that we have ignorant sick hate monger right wingers here commenting, is the supreme evidence that Muslims are under attack, and discriminated against. We need all Muslim TV shows that we can have.

    Only people that are less educated that make a lots of noise, just as the French said “Only empty barrels make a lots of noise! Educate yourself, get out of 2 or 3 jobs and go to school, get out of going to bars and stay there all day long in your days off thinking it’s the ideal place to learn from. go to school, buy books read about the world, and try to save some money so you can travel and see other countries possibly Arab and Muslim countries. Get to know the world, cause there are hundreds of other countries out there in this planet not only the U.S. and don’t forget our gov does not want you know about all this. More you are ignorant more they can control you. If you noticed, lately everything is shifting East, since our economy has been destroyed by the right wing criminals!

  • ChrisNH

    I LOVE seeing the Leftists here in a seething rage. LOVE IT! That’s my barometer on how they feel about things from their much-weakened position. Just give Leftists enough rope and they’ll hang themselves. Thank you ‘ObamaCare!’ Thank you, Botox Pelosi! Thank you, Hairy Reed. I LOVE the anger coming from the Left!

  • Brian Mophtali

    Do you see how they change the subject these ignoramus that over populate our country? I was addressing discrimination against a minority, i was not addressing any other things. But since you started i am going to educate you. Well, if i were a right winger like you i wouldn’t even comment anywhere anymore. You have the nerve to bring Obama to this, when you guys destroyed the world to a point where no one, i mean no one likes us on this Earth as Americans anymore, it’s a fact. Now, I am not going to put just 3 facts about an administration you don’t even know shit about, i am going to put a 100 wrong doings the right winger fuck ups did and inflict on us. Are you ready? here you go ! I hope you will never open your ass again fucking right winger
    IRAQ

    1. The Bush Administration has spent more than $140 billion on a war of choice in Iraq.

    Source: American Progress

    2. The Bush Administration sent troops into battle without adequate body armor or armored Humvees.

    Sources: Fox News, The Boston Globe

    3. The Bush Administration ignored estimates from Gen. Eric Shinseki that several hundred thousand troops would be required to secure Iraq.

    Source: PBS

    4. Vice President Cheney said Americans “will, in fact, be greeted as liberators” in Iraq.

    Source: The Washington Post

    5. During the Bush Administration’s war in Iraq, more than 1,000 US troops have lost their lives and more than 7,000 have been injured.

    Source: globalsecurity.org

    6. In May 2003, President Bush landed on an aircraft carrier in a flight suit, stood under a banner proclaiming “Mission Accomplished,” and triumphantly announced that major combat operations were over in Iraq. Asked if he had any regrets about the stunt, Bush said he would do it all over again.

    Source: Yahoo News

    7. Vice President Cheney said that Iraq was “the geographic base of the terrorists who have had us under assault for many years, but most especially on 9/11.” The bipartisan 9/11 Commission found that Iraq had no involvement in the 9/11 attacks and no collaborative operational relationship with Al Qaeda.

    Source: MSNBC , 9-11 Commission

    8. National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice said that high-strength aluminum tubes acquired by Iraq were “only really suited for nuclear weapons programs,” warning “we don’t want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud.” The government’s top nuclear scientists had told the Administration the tubes were “too narrow, too heavy, too long” to be of use in developing nuclear weapons and could be used for other purposes.

    Source: New York Times

    9. The Bush Administration has spent just $1.1 billion of the $18.4 billion Congress approved for Iraqi reconstruction.

    Source: USA Today

    10. According to the Administration’s handpicked weapon’s inspector, Charles Duelfer, there is “no evidence that Hussein had passed illicit weapons material to al Qaeda or other terrorist organizations, or had any intent to do so.” After the release of the report, Bush continued to insist, “There was a risk–a real risk–that Saddam Hussein would pass weapons, or materials, or information to terrorist networks.”

    Sources: New York Times, White House news release

    11. According to Duelfer, the UN inspections regime put an “economic strangle hold” on Hussein that prevented him from developing a WMD program for more than twelve years.

    Source: Los Angeles Times

    TERRORISM

    12. After receiving a memo from the CIA in August 2001 titled “Bin Laden Determined to Attack America,” President Bush continued his monthlong vacation.

    Source: CNN.com

    13. The Bush Administration failed to commit enough troops to capture Osama bin Laden when US forces had him cornered in the Tora Bora region of Afghanistan in November 2001. Instead, they relied on local warlords.

    Source: csmonitor.com

    14. The Bush Administration secured less nuclear material from sites around the world vulnerable to terrorists in the two years after 9/11 than were secured in the two years before 9/11.

    Source: nti.org

    15. The Bush Administration underfunded Nunn-Lugar–the program intended to keep the former Soviet Union’s nuclear legacy out of the hands of terrorists and rogue states–by $45.5 million.

    Source: armscontrol.org

    16. The Bush Administration has assigned five times as many agents to investigate Cuban embargo violations as it has to track Osama bin Laden’s and Saddam Hussein’s money.

    Source: sfgate.com

    17. According to Congressional Research Service data, the Bush Administration has underfunded security at the nation’s ports by more than $1 billion for fiscal year 2005.

    Source: American Progress

    18. The Bush Administration did not devote the resources necessary to prevent a resurgence in the production of poppies, the raw material used to create heroin, in Afghanistan–creating a potent new source of financing for terrorists.

    Source: Pakistan Tribune

    19. Vice President Cheney told voters that unless they elect George Bush in November, “we’ll get hit again” by terrorists.

    Source: Washington Post

    20. Even though an Al Qaeda training manual suggests terrorists come to the United States and buy assault weapons, the Bush Administration did nothing to prevent the expiration of the ban.

    Source: sfgate.com

    21. Despite repeated calls for reinforcements, there are fewer experienced CIA agents assigned to the unit dealing with Osama bin Laden now than there were before 9/11.

    Source: New York Times

    22. Before 9/11, John Ashcroft proposed slashing counterterrorism funding by 23 percent.

    Source: americanprogress.org

    23. Between January 20, 2001, and September 10, 2001, the Bush Administration publicly mentioned Al Qaeda one time.

    Source: commondreams.org

    24. The Bush Administration granted the 9/11 Commission $3 million to investigate the September 11 attacks and $50 million to the commission that investigated the Columbia space shuttle crash.

    Source: commondreams.org

    25. More than three years after 9/11, just 5 percent of all cargo–including cargo transported on passenger planes–is screened.

    Source: commondreams.org

    NATIONAL SECURITY

    26. During the Bush Administration, North Korea quadrupled its suspected nuclear arsenal from two to eight weapons.

    Source: New York Times

    27. The Bush Administration has openly opposed the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty, undermining nuclear nonproliferation efforts.

    Source: commondreams.org

    28. The Bush Administration has spent $7 billion this year–and plans to spend $10 billion next year–for a missile defense system that has never worked in a test that wasn’t rigged.

    Sources: http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d04409.pdf, Los Angeles Times

    29. The Bush Administration underfunded the needs of the nation’s first responders by $98 billion, according to a Council on Foreign Relations study.

    Source: nationaldefensemagazine.org

    CRONYISM AND CORRUPTION

    30. The Bush Administration awarded a multibillion-dollar no-bid contract to Halliburton–a company that still pays Vice President Cheney hundreds of thousands of dollars in deferred compensation each year (Cheney also has Halliburton stock options). The company then repeatedly overcharged the military for services, accepted kickbacks from subcontractors and served troops dirty food.

    Sources: The Washington Post, The Tapei Times, BBC News

    31. The Bush Administration told Saudi Prince Bandar bin Sultan about plans to go to war with Iraq before telling Secretary of State Colin Powell.

    Source: detnews.com

    32. The Bush Administration relentlessly pushed an energy bill containing $23.5 billion in corporate tax breaks, much of which would have benefited major campaign contributors.

    taxpayer.net, Washington Post

    33. The Bush Administration paid Iraqi-exile and neocon darling Ahmad Chalabi $400,000 a month for intelligence, including fabricated claims about Iraqi WMD. It continued to pay him for months after discovering that he was providing inaccurate information.

    Source: MSNBC

    34. The Bush Administration installed as top officials more than 100 former lobbyists, attorneys or spokespeople for the industries they oversee.

    Source: Source: commondreams.org

    35. The Bush Administration let disgraced Enron CEO Ken Lay–a close friend of President Bush–help write its energy policy.

    Source: MSNBC

    36. Top Bush Administration officials accepted $127,600 in jewelry and other presents from the Saudi royal family in 2003, including diamond-and-sapphire jewelry valued at $95,500 for First Lady Laura Bush.

    Source: Seattle Times

    37. Secretary of Homeland Security Tom Ridge awarded lucrative contracts to several companies in which he is an investor, including Microsoft, GE, Sprint, Pfizer and Oracle.

    Source: cq.com

    38. President Bush used images of firefighters carrying flag-draped coffins through the rubble of the World Trade Center to score political points in a campaign advertisement.

    Source: The Washington Post

    THE ECONOMY

    39. President Bush’s top economic adviser, Greg Mankiw, said the outsourcing of American jobs abroad was “a plus for the economy in the long run.”

    Source: CBS News

    40. The Bush Administration turned a $236 billion surplus into a $422 billion deficit.

    Sources: Fortune, dfw.com

    41. The Bush Administration implemented regulations that made millions of workers ineligible for overtime pay.

    Source: epinet.org

    42. The Bush Administration has crippled state budgets by underfunding federal mandates by $175 billion.

    Source: cbpp.org

    43. President Bush is the first President since Herbert Hoover to have a net loss of jobs–around 800,000–over a four-year term.

    Source: The Guardian

    44. The Bush Administration gave Accenture a multibillion-dollar border control contract even though the company moved its operations to Bermuda to avoid paying taxes.

    Sources: The New York Times, cantonrep.com

    45. In 2000, candidate George W. Bush said “the vast majority of my tax cuts go to the bottom end of the spectrum.” He passed the tax cuts, but the top 20 percent of earners received 68 percent of the benefits.

    Sources: cbpp.org, vote-smart.org

    46. In 2000, candidate George W. Bush promised to pay down the national debt to a historically low level. As of September 30, the national debt stood at $7,379,052,696,330.32, a record high.

    Sources: http://www.georgewbush.com , Bureau of the Public Debt

    47. As major corporate scandals rocked the nation’s economy, the Bush Administration reduced the enforcement of corporate tax law–conducting fewer audits, imposing fewer penalties, pursuing fewer prosecutions and making virtually no effort to prosecute corporate tax crimes.

    Source: iht.com

    48. The Bush Administration increased tax audits for the working poor.

    Source: theolympian.com

    49. In 2000, candidate George W. Bush promised to protect the Social Security surplus. As President, he spent all of it.

    Sources: georgewbush.com, Congressional Budget Office

    50. The Bush Administration proposed slashing funding for the largest federal public housing program, putting 2 million families in danger of losing their housing.

    Source: San Francisco Examiner

    51. The Bush Administration did nothing to prevent the minimum wage from falling to an inflation-adjusted fifty-year low.

    Source: Los Angeles Times

    EDUCATION

    52. The Bush Administration underfunded the No Child Left Behind Act by $9.4 billion.

    Source: nwitimes.com

    53. In 2000, candidate George W. Bush promised to increase the maximum federal scholarship, or Pell Grant, by 50 percent. Instead, each year he has been in office he has frozen or cut the maximum scholarship amount.

    Source: Source: edworkforce.house.gov x

    54. The Bush Administration’s Secretary of Education, Rod Paige, called the National Education Association–a union of teachers–a “terrorist organization.”

    Sources: CNN.com

    HEALTHCARE

    55. The Bush Administration, in violation of the law, refused to allow Medicare actuary Richard Foster to tell members of Congress the actual cost of their Medicare bill. Instead, they repeated a figure they knew was $100 billion too low.

    Source: Washington Post, realcities.com

    56. The nonpartisan GAO concluded the Bush Administration created illegal, covert propaganda–in the form of fake news reports–to promote its industry-backed Medicare bill.

    Source: General Accounting Office

    57. The Bush Administration stunted research that could lead to new treatments for Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s, diabetes, spinal injuries, heart disease and muscular dystrophy by placing severe restrictions on the use of federal dollars for embryonic stem-cell research.

    Source: CBS News

    58. The Bush Administration reinstated the “global gag rule,” which requires foreign NGOs to withhold information about legal abortion services or lose US funds for family planning.

    Source: healthsciences.columbia.edu

    59. The Bush Administration authorized twenty companies that have been charged with fraud at the federal or state level to offer Medicare prescription drug cards to seniors.

    Source: American Progress

    60. The Bush Administration created a prescription drug card for Medicare that locks seniors into one card for up to a year but allows the corporations offering the cards to change their prices once a week.

    Source: Washington Post

    61. The Bush Administration blocked efforts to allow Medicare to negotiate cheaper prescription drug prices for seniors.

    Source: American Progress

    62. At the behest of the french fry industry, the Bush Administration USDA changed their definition of fresh vegetables to include frozen french fries.

    Source: commondreams.org

    63. In a case before the Supreme Court, the Bush Administrations sided with HMOs–arguing that patients shouldn’t be allowed to sue HMOs when they are improperly denied treatment. With the Administration’s help, the HMOs won.

    Source: ABC News

    64. The Bush Administration went to court to block lawsuits by patients who were injured by defective prescription drugs and medical devices.

    Source: Washington Post

    65. President Bush signed a Medicare law that allows companies that reduce healthcare benefits for retirees to receive substantial subsidies from the government.

    Source: Bloomberg News

    66. Since President Bush took office, more than 5 million people have lost their health insurance.

    Source: CNN.com

    67. The Bush Administration blocked a proposal to ban the use of arsenic-treated lumber in playground equipment, even though it conceded it posed a danger to children.

    Source: Miami Herald

    68. One day after President Bush bragged about his efforts to help seniors afford healthcare, the Administration announced the largest dollar increase of Medicare premiums in history.

    Source: iht.com

    69. The Bush Administration–at the behest of the tobacco industry–tried to water down a global treaty that aimed to help curb smoking.

    Source: tobaccofreekids.org

    70. The Bush Administration has spent $270 million on abstinence-only education programs even though there is no scientific evidence demonstrating that they are effective in dissuading teenagers from having sex or reducing the transmission of sexually transmitted diseases.

    Source: salon.com

    71. The Bush Administration slashed funding for programs that suggested ways, other than abstinence, to avoid sexually transmitted diseases.

    Source: LA Weekly

    ENVIRONMENT

    72. The Bush Administration gutted clean-air standards for aging power plants, resulting in at least 20,000 premature deaths each year.

    Source: cta.policy.net

    73. The Bush Administration eliminated protections on more than 200 million acres of public lands.

    Source: calwild.org

    74. President Bush broke his promise to place limits on carbon dioxide emissions, an essential step in combating global warming.

    Source: Washington Post

    75. Days after 9/11, the Bush Administration told people living near Ground Zero that the air was safe–even though they knew it wasn’t–subjecting hundreds of people to unnecessary, debilitating ailments.

    Sierra Club , EPA

    76. The Bush Administration created a massive tax loophole for SUVs–allowing, for example, the write-off of the entire cost of a new Hummer.

    Source: Washington Post

    77. The Bush Administration put former coal-industry big shots in the government and let them roll back safety regulations, putting miners at greater risk of black lung disease.

    Source: New York Times

    78. The Bush Administration said that even though the weed killer atrazine was seeping into water supplies–creating, among other bizarre creatures, hermaphroditic frogs–there was no reason to regulate it.

    Source: Washington Post

    79. The Bush Administration has proposed cutting the budget of the Environmental Protection Agency by $600 million next year.

    Source: ems.org

    80. President Bush broke his campaign promise to end the maintenance backlog at national parks. He has provided just 7 percent of the funds needed, according to National Park Service estimates.

    Source: bushgreenwatch.org

    RIGHTS AND LIBERTIES

    81. Since 9/11, Attorney General John Ashcroft has detained 5,000 foreign nationals in antiterrorism sweeps; none have been convicted of a terrorist crime.

    Source: hrwatch.org

    82. The Bush Administration ignored pleas from the International Committee of the Red Cross to stop the abuse of prisoners in US custody.

    Source: Wall Street Journal

    83. In violation of international law, the Bush Administration hid prisoners from the Red Cross so the organization couldn’t monitor their treatment.

    Source: hrwatch.org

    84. The Bush Administration, without ever charging him with a crime, arrested US citizen José Padilla at an airport in Chicago, held him on a naval brig in South Carolina for two years, denied him access to a lawyer and prohibited any contact with his friends and family.

    Source: news.findlaw.com

    85. President Bush’s top legal adviser wrote a memo to the President advising him that he can legally authorize torture.

    Source: news.findlaw.com

    86. At the direction of Bush Administration officials, the FBI went door to door questioning people planning on protesting at the 2004 political conventions.

    Source: New York Times

    87. The Bush Administration refuses to support the creation of an independent commission to investigate the abuse of foreign prisoners in American custody. Instead, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld selected the members of a commission to review the conduct of his own department.

    Source: humanrightsfirst.org

    FLIP FLOPS

    88. President Bush opposed the creation of the 9/11 Commission before he supported it, delaying an essential inquiry into one of the greatest intelligence failure in American history.

    Source: americanprogressaction.org

    89. President Bush said gay marriage was a state issue before he supported a constitutional amendment banning it.

    Sources: CNN.com, White House

    90. President Bush said he was committed to capturing Osama bin Laden “dead or alive” before he said, “I truly am not that concerned about him.”

    Source: americanprogressaction.org

    91. President Bush said we had found weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, before he admitted we hadn’t found them.

    Sources: White House, americanprogress.org

    92. President Bush said, “You can’t distinguish between Al Qaeda and Saddam when you talk about the war on terror,” before he admitted Saddam had no role in 9/11.

    Sources: White House, Washington Post

    BIOGRAPHY

    93. George Bush didn’t come close to meeting his commitments to the National Guard. Records show he performed no service in a six-month period in 1972 and a three-month period in 1973.

    Source: boston.com

    94. In June 1990 George Bush violated federal securities law when he failed to inform the SEC that he had sold 200,000 shares of his company, Harken Energy. Two months later the company reported significant losses and by the end of that year the stock had dropped from $3 to $1.

    Source: The Guardian

    95. When asked at an April 2004 press conference to name a mistake he made during his presidency, Bush couldn’t think of one.

    Source: White House

    SECRECY

    96. The Bush Administration refuses to release twenty-seven pages of a Congressional report that reportedly detail the Saudi Arabian government’s connections to the 9/11 hijackers.

    Source: philly.com

    97. Last year the Bush Administration spent $6.5 billion creating 14 million new classified documents and securing old secrets–the highest level of spending in ten years.

    Source: openthegovernment.org

    98. The Bush Administration spent $120 classifying documents for every $1 it spent declassifying documents.

    Source: openthegovernment.org

    99. The Bush Administration has spent millions of dollars and defied numerous court orders to conceal from the public who participated in Vice President Cheney’s 2001 energy task force.

    Source: Washington Post

    100. The Bush Administration–reversing years of bipartisan tradition–refuses to answer requests from Democratic members of Congress about how the White House is spending taxpayer money.

    Source: Washington Post

  • lazzzlo

    It’s a good list. It definitely shows wasted government spending. It’s not annotated very well.

    so what?

    We are the largest charitable country in the world…anyone bother to complain about that one?

  • david r

    gordonbloyershow said:
    I would just love the scene where the father kills his daughter for dating a Jew. That would ge lots of laughs.

    Hilarious! I was going to use that joke with a black man instead of a Jew. The most recent “honor killing” in the news was a Muslim who killed his daughter for dating a young black man. But Katie doesn’t want to go there.

  • J Baustian

    How can anyone so stupid rise to the post of anchorperson of a major network?

    But then I remembered so many other stupid and/or foolish remarks by other eminent news-critters from other networks besides CBS. She may not even be the worst.

  • possumdearie

    It’s not so much Muslims but people who blow themselves to kill other people while shouting “Allahu Akbar!” that people hate. Maybe if terrorists endorsed Jello Pudding Pops then everyone would lighten the fuck up.

    Hey, Katie! Do the Butt Dance! Shake your pudding maker!

  • Call_Me_Ishmael

    Since a prevalent right wing position is that Islam is a religion of terrorism therefore Muslims adherents == terrorists or terrorist supporters, it seems the only solution is the permanent eradication or conversion of the world’s 1.5 billion Muslims.

    Is there anyone who has a practical and affordable plan for achieving this apparently necessary scenario?

  • tiredofbs

    Comparing Black bias with Muslims is ridiculous.
    Blacks never attacked & kill 3000 on our soil & 100thousand+ internationally
    for their religion/ideology.. (infidels)
    Cosby didn’t have those odds. He just brought black people to the 21st century
    in the eyes of people who were stereotyping…
    Muslims have baggage, hate they inspired that will (on many levels) never be forgiven.
    I’m a NYorker who was affected, & will never forget/forgive.
    Unless u r a sympathizer of terrorists, & feel the “West” America deserved what they got
    they better do better than a efin tv sit com

  • tiredofbs

    Call_Me_Ishmael said:
    conversion of the world’s 1.5 billion Muslims.

    Is there anyone who has a practical and affordable plan for achieving this apparently necessary scenario?

    They have to reform /moderate themselves.
    If there was an honest uprising, starting with our friends in the Arab Lands all over the Middle East,
    it would be very obvious, very much appreciated & the only great start …
    Maybe we should start in helping nudge them along by using existing technologies (nukular)
    including drill baby drill for our own oil,
    for energy & not pay them billions to terrorize us with our own cash.
    How fast their tune would change

  • Call_Me_Ishmael

    tiredofbs said:
    They have to reform /moderate themselves.
    If there was an honest uprising, starting with our friends in the Arab Lands all over the Middle East,
    it would be very obvious, very much appreciated & the only great start …

    In the meantime, Americans and Westerners die and economies suffer from Muslim terrorist attacks and intransigence. Are you willing to pay the price in lives and treasure to wait for them to “reform/moderate themselves”?

    That’s not the impression I get from current discussions. That same right wing position gives me the impression that “our friends in the Arab Lands” are few and far between and not to be trusted and that change must happen now, not later.

  • murf

    Brian Mophtali said:
    Brian Mophtali says:

    I guess you would feel more secure if Saddam was still in power ? Just imagine the Utopia.. Iran , North Korea AND Iraq with all three leaders still in power in our present day Middle East predicament ?

  • OxyCon

    LMAO Latin2!
    I think we should pitch this show to SeeBS.

  • OxyCon

    J Baustian said:
    J Baustian says:
    December 31, 2010 at 12:14 am  (Quote)
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    How can anyone so stupid rise to the post of anchorperson of a major network?

    Same way Baba Wawa got where she is.

  • Brian Mophtali

    What do you know about Islam, beside what they show you on TV? All these media networks are owned by a group of people who own a club of lies and deception. You are totally brain washed to think only their way,and dream their way. Think out of the box, otherwise they will always keep you busy hating some one you don’t even know, or even heard of before. Remember, this club owns everything, i mean everything and don’t even give a damn about you or me. It’s a myth they created about Islam and it’s 1.7 billion adherent, since the Soviet Union is gone. They needed to invent an enemy, the only way they can get things done by creating this enemy, so they can put FEAR IN YOUR HEART then can justify their deed. The Muslims world never hated America, but they did disliked it’s unjust policies in the middle east , i am sure there are over a hundred other countries who do the same and feel the same. But these policies of the Club never were the subject of hate from the Muslim world because the Muslim world always loved our culture, our movies, our technologies, our schools, and even our life style. Why only 10 years ago our government had to create animosity between brown and white? Because it was busy doing the same thing to Indians, African Americans, Irish, Latinos, Jews, etc. Now the Muslim turn! Divide and conquer always been the agenda, if you would agree with me, today , is, hate and conquer. I strongly suggest to know a Muslim in your neighborhood, there are plenty, and you will be so so surprised how our media is not telling the truth. THE CLUB IS NOT TELLING THE TRUTH! Again learn how to think out of the box people, learn how to question what the club portrays as your enemy, learn to investigate what the club says, otherwise The Club will keep you busy until all your liberties are gone one after the other, slowly but surely, under the guise of war on Terror.

  • Latin2

    Brian Mophtali said:
    What do you know about Islam, beside what they show you on TV?

    Hmmm…let’s see I know that Muhammad’s nurse maid thought that when Muhammad was a child thought he was demon possessed. Muhammad was a pagan until he was an adult and while doing the Hajj, and fasting (yes it used to be a pagan practice before Islam) in a cave when supposedly Angel Gabriel came to him and told him to read, and Muhammad said he couldn’t so the angel squeezed Muhammad until he recited. After that he wanted to kill himself and tried several times, but his OLDER wife Kadeejah and her uncle, who were both Christians, told him he might be prophet, instead of demon possessed to get him out of his deep depression and suicidal tendencies. So to prove he was a “prophet” Kadeejah stripped naked and asked Muhammad if the ‘angel’ was there, and he said no. So she said “you truly must’ve seen an angel cuz a demon would’ve stayed and watched me undress”…and that is how Muhammad became a prophet.

  • Brian Mophtali

    Latin 2, That is false, that is not islam, i did not ask you to give me a Jesus biography. What do you know about Islam? obviously nothing, You are stating things that you learned out from a hate websites, Ask just 1 or 2 out of 1.7 billion people if that is Islam or not. To your knowledge, It will take you Mr, between 10 to 15 years to study Islam, and you can ask anybody if i am wrong. Sir,You failed, you have not even taken a whole single day to read carefully about Islam from legitimate sources, instead your ignorance drove you to be insolent and disrespectful to millions. If i were you I’ll educate myself first before i’ll jump into this broad discussion about a religion i know nothing, nothing about.

  • Just4thefax

    Brian Mophtali said:
    38. President Bush used images of firefighters carrying flag-draped coffins through the rubble of the World Trade Center to score political points in a campaign advertisement.
    Source: The Washington Post

    Fact: Lies all lies! This one is the biggest of the bullshit lies posted! Just cutting and pasting left nut liberal propaganda doesn’t make it true! The only fact I’ve seen is you are a coward and a shameless pussy!

  • Just4thefax

    Brian Mophtali said:
    What do you know about Islam? obviously nothing,

    Fact:
    Ten Obvious Reasons Why
    Islam is NOT a Religion of Peace

    #1 14,000 deadly terror attacks committed explicitly in the name of Islam in just the last eight years. (Other religions combined for perhaps a dozen or so).

    #2 Muhammad, the prophet of Islam, had people killed for insulting him or criticizing his religion. This included women. Muslims are told to emulate the example of Muhammad.

    #3 Muhammad said in many places that he has been “ordered by Allah to fight men until they testify that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is his messenger.” In the last nine years of his life, he ordered no less than 65 military campaigns to do exactly that.
    Muhammad inspired his men to war with the basest of motives, using captured loot, sex and a gluttonous paradise as incentives. He beheaded captives, enslaved children and raped women captured in battle. Again, Muslims are told to emulate the example of Muhammad.

    #4 After Muhammad died, the people who lived with him, and knew his religion best, immediately fell into war with each other.
    Fatima, Muhammad’s favorite daughter, survived the early years at Mecca safe and sound, yet died of stress from the persecution of fellow Muslims only six months after her father died.
    Fatima’s husband Ali, who was the second second convert to Islam and was raised like a son to Muhammad, fought a civil war against an army raised by Aisha, Muhammad’s favorite wife – and one whom he had said was a “perfect woman.” 10,000 Muslims were killed in a single battle, waged less than 25 years after Muhammad’s death.
    Three of the first four Muslim rulers (caliphs) were murdered. All of them were among Muhammad’s closest companions. The third caliph was killed by allies of the son of the first (who was murdered by the fifth caliph a few years later, then wrapped in the skin of a dead donkey and burned). The fourth caliph (Ali) was stabbed to death after a bitter dispute with the fifth. The fifth caliph went on to poison one of Muhammad’s two favorite grandsons. The other grandson was later beheaded by the sixth caliph.
    The infighting and power struggles between Muhammad’s family members, closest companions and their children only intensified with time. Within 50 short years of Muhammad’s death, even the Kaaba, which had stood for centuries under pagan religion, lay in ruins from internal Muslim war…
    And that’s just the fate of those within the house of Islam!

    #5 Muhammad directed Muslims to wage war on other religions and bring them under submission to Islam. Within the first few decades following his death, his Arabian companions invaded and conquered Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist and Zoroastrian lands.
    A mere 25 years after Muhammad’s death, Muslim armies had captured land and people within the borders of over 28 modern countries outside of Saudi Arabia.

    #6 Muslims continued their Jihad against other religions for 1400 years, checked only by the ability of non-Muslims to defend themselves. To this day, not a week goes by that Islamic fundamentalists do not attempt to kill Christians, Jews, Hindus and Buddhists explicitly in the name of Allah.
    None of these other religions are at war with each other.

    #7 Islam is the only religion that has to retain its membership by threatening to kill anyone who leaves. This is according to the example set by Muhammad.

    #8 Islam teaches that non-Muslims are less than fully human. Muhammad said that Muslims can be put to death for murder, but that a Muslim could never be put to death for killing a non-Muslim.

    #9 The Qur’an never once speaks of Allah’s love for non-Muslims, but it speaks of Allah’s cruelty toward and hatred of non-Muslims more than 500 times.

    #10 “Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar!”
    (The last words from the cockpit of Flight 93)

  • Just4thefax

    Brian Mophtali said:
    10 to 15 years to study Islam

    Fact: Shit that’s less time than getting a wife! You pedophiles go for young kids about six right! Like Mohammed likes to rub on real young ones! Islam religion of piece of little boy toys and little girl toys! Hahahahahaha You guys are jokes!

  • possumdearie

    Robert Stribley said:
    Can you show me *one* link to an article about Christians being denied a church in their own community?

    KELO, you dumbass. Also, Bloomberg’s office greased the skids for the GZM. A FOIL order revealed just how much Hizzoner did for Rauf, Khan and El Gamel. Yet, the Greek Orthodox church that was destroyed by the 911 attacks, forced to hold services elsewhere, raised the money to rebuild, had its property seized by the MTA. That church has been in court for years, yet POOF! a mosque can go up overnight.

  • Latin2

    Brian Mophtali said:
    Latin 2, That is false, that is not islam,

    The Quran comes from the recitations of Muhammad. Which he said were direct revelations of Allah.

    The hadiths come from the companions of Muhammad about what he said and did.

    The Sirat is the biography of Muhammad.

    The tafsirs are the commentaries on the Quran by early Islamic scholars, which was recited by Muhammad

    Meaning everything comes from Muhammad as the principle source. Now if he was not the perfect man as Muslims claim and we can prove…then there goes the concept that the Quran is perfect, and then Islam is false.

    Unlike Christianity, the books in the Christian bible are compiled books by the prophets, about the life and teachings of Jesus, but the Quran are the direct words of Allah THROUGH Muhammad. That is a big difference. The main source of the Quran IS Muhammad and if he was suspect than the Quran is false and so is Islam.

  • newzmaker

    Cute how these flakey limousine liberals like Couric, project their own discomfort with Muslims onto others, whom aren’t afraid to express their discomfort. If Couric were in a stuck elevator with 5 Arab-looking guys, she’d be wishing she had worn Depends that day. LOL. Phonies.

  • skyfet

    notsofast said:
    Quick, skyfart, tell him that the Koran was written by the Hebrews!

    LOL

    You are too ignorant for me. I’ve also noticed that everytime I put you in your place you stop replying and start another fight in another thread. Go and educate yourself and stop rambling rubbish all of the time.

  • skyfet

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact:

    Your wretched self is still copying and pasting large contents here, which means you are wasting space as usual. Again, summarize and reference the source.

  • BatBoy

    I think I have the title for the first 5 TV shows

    Show #1: Show how much fun it is to keep little girls from going to school.
    Show #2: Wearing a Burka at the Beach
    Show #3: The easy way to bury a woman up to her head and stone her to death.
    Show #4: 3 Easy ways to behead your wife.
    Show #5: You’ve killed your daughter…now what????

  • Doug Piranha

    CBS, Katie’s own network, already has a sitcom like she described. I think it’s called Big Bang Theory.

    Oh. And to the author of the article, Ray Rahman: man I just LOVE those noodles you make. Keep up the good work.

  • writer

    Katie is onto something. Some possible show titles:

    CSI: Mecca

    Kabul Five-O

    Two and a Half Heads

  • GWHH

    Katie-NOT only are you over paid. 14 million a year. But you big city, liberal, view point is crazy. The vast majiorty of Muslim. Would make you wear a bed sheet 24 hours a day and not let you leave the house. I am glad that CBS is going to cut your salary next year because of your poor ratings.

  • Bill Mahwer

    What’s wrong with Harold & Kumar Go to White Castle

  • VW

    Robert Stribley said:
    Harry, can you even show me *one* link to an article about someone being beaten for being a Christian in the United States? Can you show me *one* link to an article about Christians being denied a church in their own community? Even one? Because even if you could show me one (and I doubt you can), I can show you ten for every one, which indicate Muslims are far more persecuted in our society, than Christians.

    muslim are not persecuted, however, unfortunately muslim suffer become some of their own used their religion as justification to kill 3000 innocents. Most American are not so forgetful as to let that slide and move on. Its a natural reaction and for the most Americans have been very welcoming of muslims. There have not been any violent backlashes, only exercises of free speech.

    So what you call persecution, most people call “an honest expression of emotion.” If you don’t like it, move to a country that doesn’t allow for “defamation of one’s religion” in print.

    Finally, you’re not that bright. Perhaps i’d take you more seriously if you wore “smart person’s glasses” like Katie is wearing.

  • tiredofbs

    Brian Mophtali said:
    I strongly suggest to know a Muslim in your neighborhood, there are plenty, and you will be so so surprised how our media is not telling the truth. THE CLUB IS NOT TELLING THE TRUTH! Again learn how to think out of the box people, learn how to question what the club portrays as your enemy, learn to investigate what the club says, otherwise The Club will keep you busy until all your liberties are gone one after the other, slowly but surely, under the guise of war on Terror.

    What?
    “THE CLUB” did not invent the bombings which have killed 100s of thousands
    all over the world in the last 25 years.
    “THE CLUB” did not invent or shoot in a studio, the celebrations I SAW with my own eyes
    in local NYC grocery stores from Muslims over 911 days after 9/11.
    Your whole post is absurd. Muslims are ones who in reality, “play” terror every day,
    They want Israel & Jews in the ocean dead, (will never happen)
    and even then, they consider INFIDELS,anyone not strict Sharia as rubbish to be
    beheaded & squatted like flies, under the orders of their holy book to
    take over the world.

  • tiredofbs

    writer said:
    Katie is onto something. Some possible show titles:

    CSI: Mecca

    Kabul Five-O

    Two and a Half Heads

    Wayyy too funny.. Sad, disgusting, true…. but very funny if possible?

  • Micsh

    Harry Flashman says:
    December 30, 2010 at 3:57 pm Harry Flashman(Quote)
    Thumb up 86 Thumb down 30

    Would someone please show me where all that bigotry is?

    Are Muslims denied an education? No.

    Are Muslims excluded from fair housing? No.

    Are Muslims denied the right to worship as they see fit? No. (And don’t use the ground zero Mosque as an example. The church at the scene has been denied permits to rebuild. Goose, sauce. Tough.)

    Is there random violence against Muslims? No.

    Are Muslims discriminated against in our legal system? No.

    Now, replace the word “Muslim” with “Christian” and place the question in ANY MUSLIM COUNTRY IN THE WORLD and tell me what you come up with.

    Is Katie Couric an idiot? Yes.

    You must be on crack, all those things are there because it’s the law. Does that stop people who don’t work for the government from treating them unfairly? By the way, i know two people who have hate hate crimes performed on them, including spitting, and being physically hurt. another girls headdress snatched off and taken and forced to go home without it. You probably thought all that stuff you typed was profound, it wasn’t. Clearly they aren’t denied the right to worship where they want when half of NEW York refuses to sign the leases on building so they can worship, or they offer outrageous prices. Step outside your perfect little world and step into the real world. The media dresses them up to be so evil, when really it’s a group of people who have read into the religion in the wrong way. No more then how we outcast those who ” worship” Christianity the wrong way.

    People like you are pathetic, people like you have blinders on, and believe everything you hear in the media, or believe everything you hear some Crazy sources. I encourage you to make nice with “real Muslims” and keep your prior thoughts to yourself. You don’t know nothing. America has become a nation of huge,non god worshiping, judgmental, non active idiots….or lets not Bigots. Sad that we are still in this place.

  • tiredofbs

    Micsh said:
    I encourage you to make nice with “real Muslims” and keep your prior thoughts to yourself. You don’t know nothing. America has become a nation of huge,non god worshiping, judgmental, non active idiots….or lets not Bigots. Sad that we are still in this place.

    realllyyyy??
    sounds like one of those “religion of peace” threats, like “believe as I say or I’ll cut your head of”
    sweet whispers… Creepyyyy to say the least. YOU ARE NOT IN ANY POSITION TO DICTATE to
    anyone, what they should believe, or how to behave.
    THIS IS TILL AMERICA get a grip

  • Alz

    For it to be realistic, the show would have to express how Islam is against the West and talk about Jihad. But it won’t.

    I suspect the show would not talk about terrorism much, but just enough for the liberals to say the producers are very brave. The authentic Muslim actors would NEVER be asked to talk much about any negative comments about Islam but only how brave they are. In other words, everyone on the left would know (through the code) that whatver is said about Islam is “just for show.”

    Also, I’m guessing the show would have TONS of references of how bad Christians are.

    In other words, the show would just be another liberal anti-western civilization mechanism.

  • Just4thefax

    skyfet said:
    Your wretched self is still copying and pasting large contents here, which means you are wasting space as usual. Again, summarize and reference the source.

    Fact: Again you are a nobody and it’s my source! It’s from me fuck off knuckle dragger!

  • Just4thefax

    BatBoy said:
    I think I have the title for the first 5 TV shows Show #1: Show how much fun it is to keep little girls from going to school.Show #2: Wearing a Burka at the BeachShow #3: The easy way to bury a woman up to her head and stone her to death.Show #4: 3 Easy ways to behead your wife.Show #5: You’ve killed your daughter…now what????

    Fact: Shows 6 thru 10!
    6.) How to rape a little boy in a cave properly!
    7.) How to swing your stick in crowds to have maximum effect!
    8.) Best way to kill your Christian neighbors!
    9.) How early is early picking a child bride!
    10.) Best ways to get your child bride to slave for you daily!

  • Just4thefax

    skyfet said:
    large contents here

    Fact: Ten words are less make it large contents for sarah p tribes people!

  • Scott_in_MI

    Micsh said:
    I encourage you to make nice with “real Muslims” and keep your prior thoughts to yourself. You don’t know nothing.

    This is a typical liberal thought: lets make nice with the person who wants to cut our head off. If he likes us then maybe he’ll leave us alone. Its like Obama wanting to sit down with AJad to talk our differences through, but AJad only sees weakness in such a meeting and our President looks like a fool.

  • Sue

    I personally will not watch anything where you are not allowed to see or do anything the men of the house doesn’t want anyone to see. Waste of my time. Perhaps Couric can convince a local Muslim to allow cameras into their home without restriction…I might tune in, maybe, possibly.

  • SarahP

    Scott_in_MI said:
    This is a typical liberal thought: lets make nice with the person who wants to cut our head off. If he likes us then maybe he’ll leave us alone. Its like Obama wanting to sit down with AJad to talk our differences through, but AJad only sees weakness in such a meeting and our President looks like a fool.

    Before stepping out this evening I am compelled to tell you what a complete dumb fuck you are.

  • Brian Mophtali

    All what you say is non sense, nothing you say here is true about the Muslims or Islam all of you, i am sorry to say it but you are under siege by the Zionist media. They control every fucking white trash brain in this country. You don’t see the elite here talking garbage, only the low life scum bags who pretend to know when they know shit. Yeh, sitting behind a sceen insulting people makes you so much of a man. Get a life you low life piece of shit. I hope you’ll die leaking a Zionist ass..

  • Brian Mophtali

    It’s a Zionist controlled Media putting a big dick up your asses! Actually i am happy to see them control you

  • SarahP

    Brian Mophtali said:
    It’s a Zionist controlled Media putting a big dick up your asses! Actually i am happy to see them control you

    Your head is firmly implanted way, way up your bulbous ass. In short, you are a dick, no pun intended.

  • Brian Mophtali

    http://psreview.org/content/view/10/68/

    This one is a very important documentary about the Jewish lobby in the United States
    http://www.freedocumentaries.org/teatro.php?filmID=173&lan=en&size=big

  • Brian Mophtali

    Sarah Shit you are a joke, you can’t even write in a proper English, but you open your ass. You are the type of kids who their moms wanted to abort, garantee, ask your mom!

  • J Baustian

    nrXic said:
    What Mosque? It’s a cultural centre. Secondly, the opposition was lead by Pamela Gellar, a well known anti-Muslim bigot.

    A madrassa by any other name.

    As for Pamela Geller, she goes a bit overboard I think but at least she recognizes that a threat exists. Unlike Katie Couric.

  • SarahP

    Brian Mophtali said:
    Sarah Shit you are a joke, you can’t even write in a proper English, but you open your ass. You are the type of kids who their moms wanted to abort, garantee, ask your mom!

    You are a fucking asshole who would not know proper English it it gave you blow job. You are nothing less than an ignorant buffoon with a very small dick.

  • The ReaI Royal King

    SarahP said:
    You are a fucking asshole who would not know proper English it it gave you blow job. You are nothing less than an ignorant buffoon with a very small dick.

    Ooooooooh! She loses her cool.

    How about a Muslim version of Jersey Shore? That would be cool. Of course, Snooki and her friends would probably be stoned to death in the first episode.

  • The ReaI Royal King

    Brian Mophtali said:
    Sarah Shit you are a joke, you can’t even write in a proper English, but you open your ass. You are the type of kids who their moms wanted to abort, garantee, ask your mom!

    SarahP said:
    You are a fucking asshole who would not know proper English it it gave you blow job. You are nothing less than an ignorant buffoon with a very small dick.

    Sorry, Sarah. I didn’t read the disgusting things Brian had said to you before I posted. You’re right, he is a dick.

  • RichS

    Robert Stribley said:
    ten

    Now rates are important to you, before it was pure numbers. I guess you “misspoke” or were taken out of context.

  • RichS

    nrXic said:
    I love how the people arguing with Robert are only proving his point. The fact that people are blaming the religion of Islam for what happened on 9/11, is evidence that America DOES need to be educated, and a television show just might do that. Grammie said: “In that case I posit that the opposition to the Mosque also has nothing to do with religious discrimination.” What Mosque? It’s a cultural centre. Secondly, the opposition was lead by Pamela Gellar, a well known anti-Muslim bigot. I propose that anyone commenting on this story should first educate themselves on the topic at hand! Sheesh! It’s getting, very, very dumb in here.

    Its a mosque. Before making statements you should learn what makes the building a Mosque.

  • RichS

    Robert Stribley said:
    “the appearance to many is that there’s a bunch of Muslims killing a bunch of Christians.” And that’s the problem. Islam didn’t attack us on 9/11, Al Qaeda did. Thanks for making my case again. And since then we’ve killed many, many more innocent *people* in Iraq than *people* (regardless of religion) were killed in 9/11. Sorry, but that is irrefutable.

    “Irrefutable?” You’ve examined the evidence on every person killed in the War in Iraq and you know for a fact who was and who wasn’t a terrorist or Ba’ath Party member involved in attacks on Allied soldiers? Please zip those files and forward them to the Justice Department.

    I’m curious, how many devout Muslims do you have as close friends?

  • Brian Mophtali

    You think Muslims did 9/11? Really!!?? Watch this documentary that made it to the world, the film maker was arrested after producing this material, and when people protested around the world they released him. That also will tell you a lot about the conspiracy. If you see this documentary you will never doubt that the United States Government is involved in 9/11. not the Muslims enjoy watching
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aMbvxCr7JU

  • Just4thefax

    Brian Mophtali said:
    You think Muslims did 9/11? Really!!?? Watch this documentary

    Fact: You want some land to buy?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrCPXtmmmfA

  • Just4thefax

    Brian Mophtali said:
    United States Government is involved in 9/11. not the Muslims enjoy watching

    Fact: You want some more help?
    Muslum lover it’s here!
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  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    Brian Mophtali said:
    You think Muslims did 9/11? Really!!?? Watch this documentary that made it to the world, the film maker was arrested after producing this material, and when people protested around the world they released him. That also will tell you a lot about the conspiracy. If you see this documentary you will never doubt that the United States Government is involved in 9/11. not the Muslims enjoy watchinghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aMbvxCr7JU

    When did they let you out of the funny farm. Stop taking the drugs.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    Brian Mophtali said:
    http://psreview.org/content/view/10/68/ This one is a very important documentary about the Jewish lobby in the United Stateshttp://www.freedocumentaries.org/teatro.php?filmID=173&lan=en&size=big

    Now I get it, YOU are a Jew hater. It all makes sense now. Does that Brian guy know that you are using his name?

  • Latin2

    Somehow I believe that “Brian Mophtali” is really someone by the name of Abdullah.

    Muslims believe that Jews are the most evilest people on earth, they also believe Jews were behind 9/11 and control the media. Proving that Islam makes people anti-Jewish because it is written in the Quran that Jews are evil and should be destroyed. Also they are brainwashed Bin Laden ADMITTED he did 9/11.

    Muslims believe any website that has the truth about Islam and Muhammad are “hate sites”. Yet the sources come from their own early Islamic scholars and books. Also Islam is not a race.

    Muslims ALWAYS claim that because 1.7 billion people are following Islam it can’t be wrong (even though most of those people are from 3rd world countries were illiteracy is very common and THEY CAN’T READ ARABIC) Well there are MORE Christians…so by using their own logic Christianity is truer than Islam because there are more people ho are Christians…that logic does not make any sense.

    Thank you “Brian Mophtali” aka Abdullah, for proving that Islam is really dangerous and cannot fit into CIVILIZED society.

  • Latin2

    …and Abdullah…I mean Brian, Jews, for their small minority, have won more Nobel Prizes, given us more scienfitic advancements, and medical advancements, compared to ALL of the COMBINED 1.7 BILLION Muslims in this planet.

  • Brian Mophtali

    My wive is Jewish, and my cousin is married to a Jewish girld you little fuck, and this is why i don’t fit Jew haters! Anytime someone brings a documentary like the ones i posted is branded as a Jew hater? Are you that stupid and living in America? Well, i have news for you, you little white trailer trash, those docs are all sold in Amazon.com and borders book stores around the country, Check also the book at borders The Jewish lobby, isn’t it seating there for people to buy? will that make those two mega big companies Jew haters? No! because first of all the founder of Borders book stores is Jewish, just in case you don’t know it! And by the way, look at youtube which is broadcasting the doc in their servers, and find out also who owns youtube and Google. So, stop hiding behind accusations when you have no argument to prove anything.

    Latin 2, why are you bringing up who got more Noble Prizes? Do i give a fuck about who is getting it!! Civilization came from the Muslim world you little dummy , Math, algorithm, algebra, science, astronomy,medicine, etc . way before any other ethnicity did it. I guess i shall say the Muslims already got the Noble prize over and over thousands years ago. Think about head full of Kaka. Here watch this movies which were filmed in England by an English man and by a famous actor ,http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZDe9DCx7Wk
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdIyeDUNCdQ&feature=channel
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd7b6zXE4lw&feature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xx2_rVq9QZM&feature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xx2_rVq9QZM&feature=related
    And you forgot about Spain and southern France which were both colonized by the Arabs for 9 hundred years. Have you been to Cordoba, Seville, Bene’l Madina, and Granada, have you ever read the story about the inventions that took place in Spain by the Arabs? Of course you don’t know, just ask yourself when is the last time you red a book, all of you? Hahahaha, i know the answer, you probably never red one, ever, but you still act like you know! Well i guess i have to tell you to Get into your stinky trailer, you fucking hater hater, and don’t pollute the internet, it’s for the civilized and educated people!
    Go get drunk and tell your girl friend to put her finger in your ass

  • tiredofbs

    Brian Mophtali said:
    My wive is Jewish, and m

    BS,

    Brian Mophtali said:
    you probably never red one, ever, but you still act like you know! Well i guess i have to tell you to Get into your stinky trailer, you fucking hater hater, and don’t pollute the internet,>>>>> it’s for the civilized and educated people!

    You are a hypocrisy sandwich wrapped in contradictions
    I’m Greek, no love lost between Greeks & Jews but I will tell you one thing:
    Israel & it’s people will not be driven in the ocean simply because of your twisted
    evil hatred … Get that through your head(s) .Either learn to live with them side by side
    or your muslim brothers will continue to suffer the worlds wrath indefinitely

  • Brian Mophtali
  • Brian Mophtali
  • Alz

    Latin2 said:
    …and Abdullah…I mean Brian, Jews, for their small minority, have won more Nobel Prizes, given us more scienfitic advancements, and medical advancements, compared to ALL of the COMBINED 1.7 BILLION Muslims in this planet.

    Obviously…in many ways, Muslims are still in the 11th century.

  • Alz
  • Brian Mophtali

    Happy new year to those who are defending the truth with us, may 2011 be a prosperous year, with plenty happiness, good health, and a lots of wealth for them . And may 2011 be a living hell on earth for those who hate god’s people no matter who they are. Amen!

  • Latin2

    Islam dd not invent Algebra..that was invented in India before Islam. Arabs just gave it a name. Also medicine IS PRE-ISLAMIC. Remember you idiot Brian “Abdullah”, Islam has only been around for a short time in history of man. As for astronomy Mesopotamia, China, Egypt, Greece, India, and Central America had already started astronomy BEFORE Islam. So that is ALL BULL SHIT

    “I guess i shall say the Muslims already got the Noble prize over and over thousands years ago”

    A thousand years ago???…lol, and that is where Islam belongs A THOUSAND YEARS AGO. The West, and non-Muslim Asia has surpassed Islam in technology and innovation in the last 100 years, while Islam has either stayed stagnate or gone backwards.

    What has Islam contributed in the last 200 YEARS.? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

  • Latin2

    Brian Mophtali said:
    . And may 2011 be a living hell on earth for those who hate god’s people no matter who they are. Amen!

    lol

    God’s people are the Jews. I guess you don’t know your Islam, Jews are the chosen people, who the prophets are descendants, not that pedophile, thief, murderer and liar Muhammad.

  • Brian Mophtali

    I am talking about all god’s creature, which means all God’s people you idiot

  • Madelynn

    Profiling Muslims is nonsense, nonsense NOT to Profile.
    Muslims where protesting at the arraignment for the panty bomber. Said the extremist are not what the faith is all about. Maybe they are starting to come forth to denounce the jihadistBeta Alanine

  • Brian Mophtali

    Latin 2, you never been out of America? Go visit museums around the world, it’s all documented in books litterateurs manuscripts all over the world .The Islamic Library was never denied by the British, because it was stolen by them. Before you open you stinky ass, go educate yourself. It’s something you will never be able to deny. Algebra came from his name Jabir bnou hayan, the inventer way before the Hindous knew how to dig a hole on the ground so they can take shit. Yes, ignorant, i am wasting my time educating you. Algebra, Mathematics, algorithm which we use today a lot, Medecin from the inventer ibnou Sina, Astronomy, Geometry, and so on and on. You will never admit to all these inventions because it just became news to you in these two hours, billions already admitted it and recognized it. I wonder how you still have the nerve to come to a public forum and expose your ignorance!? Do you know that there are people here reading this who are amazed by your ignorance? you certainly are a unique fuck!

  • Brian Mophtali

    Without Muslim inventions, there is no today’s civilization period. Hey haters, i don’t give a fuck about what you say or even think, you comments are null to me and to many readers who don’t even comment. You don’t even know your own history, as a matter of fact most of you are bastards who don’t even know who their own fathers are. Remember when your dad left your mom and she was bringing her boyfriend to fuck her in your presence at your own house? And next week she will bring a new guy to fuck her next to your sister’s room! Do you remember when you lived with your mom untill you were 25 yrs old, you left for one year and you came back, and when you did you found your sister pregnant with your mom’s new boyfriend who happens to be your age? Do you relate to this? You will not fool me i know who you are, all of you Mama’s boys, Vitamin zkouka! Get you beer you filthy animals, and don’t wake up your new dady

  • RichS

    Micsh said:
    Harry Flashman says:December 30, 2010 at 3:57 pm Harry Flashman(Quote)Thumb up 86 Thumb down 30 Would someone please show me where all that bigotry is? Are Muslims denied an education? No. Are Muslims excluded from fair housing? No. Are Muslims denied the right to worship as they see fit? No. (And don’t use the ground zero Mosque as an example. The church at the scene has been denied permits to rebuild. Goose, sauce. Tough.) Is there random violence against Muslims? No. Are Muslims discriminated against in our legal system? No. Now, replace the word “Muslim” with “Christian” and place the question in ANY MUSLIM COUNTRY IN THE WORLD and tell me what you come up with. Is Katie Couric an idiot? Yes. — You must be on crack, all those things are there because it’s the law. Does that stop people who don’t work for the government from treating them unfairly? By the way, i know two people who have hate hate crimes performed on them, including spitting, and being physically hurt. another girls headdress snatched off and taken and forced to go home without it. You probably thought all that stuff you typed was profound, it wasn’t. Clearly they aren’t denied the right to worship where they want when half of NEW York refuses to sign the leases on building so they can worship, or they offer outrageous prices. Step outside your perfect little world and step into the real world. The media dresses them up to be so evil, when really it’s a group of people who have read into the religion in the wrong way. No more then how we outcast those who ” worship” Christianity the wrong way. People like you are pathetic, people like you have blinders on, and believe everything you hear in the media, or believe everything you hear some Crazy sources. I encourage you to make nice with “real Muslims” and keep your prior thoughts to yourself. You don’t know nothing. America has become a nation of huge,non god worshiping, judgmental, non active idiots….or lets not Bigots. Sad that we are still in this place.

    You do know that devout Muslims are encourage to avoid the friendship of non-believers, don’t you?

  • RichS

    Brian Mophtali said:
    Here are other videos extremely important, educate yourself ignoramushttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLE2htv9oxc&feature=relatedMany countries documented the glory of the Arabs and Muslim’s Civilization, it’s in every museum of the world, so when you see a Muslim bow to him or to her,http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJnc6lB6pts&NR=1Oh no it can’t be true, every one loves Muslims this much that they had to put Videos about their inventions!?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HH3NolnO7nM&feature=relatedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrym1cyOldU&feature=relatedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UPGOqxNeyY&feature=relatedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx8yXyO0uYM&feature=relatedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlB8362LGqg&feature=relatedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v99F6y0biE0&feature=relatedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eyfq4YeKCuM&feature=relatedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlB8362LGqg&feature=related

    Yes, they had great achievements, at one time. Is that why the radical Muslims want to turn the clock back to the thirteenth century?

  • Dave Richards

    Do you suppose the Muslim Cosby program would show the father beating the daughter for having dated a non believer?

  • tiredofbs

    Latin2 said:
    A thousand years ago???…lol, and that is where Islam belongs A THOUSAND YEARS AGO. The West, and non-Muslim Asia has surpassed Islam in technology and innovation in the last 100 years, while Islam has either stayed stagnate or gone backwards.

    What has Islam contributed in the last 200 YEARS.? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

    Major point Abdullah ..what say u?

    ANY CULTURE that still allows their people to shoot their own flesh & blood DEAD
    just for trying to date outside the religion, HAS NO RIGHT TO DEMAND OTHERS
    ACCEPTANCE, RESPECT, OR ADMIRATION. That’s not a religion of peace, but of hate,
    and incredible cruelty.

  • Alz

    Dave Richards said:
    Do you suppose the Muslim Cosby program would show the father beating the daughter for having dated a non believer?

    No, it show a Christian beating their kid and never mention the problems of Islam.

    As I said earlier, everything would be backwards. The entire show would be about how bad Christianity is and how tolerant Islam is. For every Muslim terrorist mentioned, they will make up stories about Christian terrorists.

    Everyone should watch and absorb the video “How Modern Liberals Think” at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c

    It’s by a guy named Evan Sayet, who used to be a writer for Bill Maher, but realized he was really Conservative. It’s very good and he explains WHY liberals are like the are and WHY a Muslim Cosby show would necessarily be about trashing Christians. Find some quiet time and enjoy it!

  • Alz

    tiredofbs said:
    Major point Abdullah ..what say u?

    ANY CULTURE that still allows their people to shoot their own flesh & blood DEAD
    just for trying to date outside the religion, HAS NO RIGHT TO DEMAND OTHERS
    ACCEPTANCE, RESPECT, OR ADMIRATION. That’s not a religion of peace, but of hate,
    and incredible cruelty.

    Yes, even the word Islam means Submit.

    Thanks. From “What is Islam” at
    http://atheism.about.com/library/FAQs/islam/blfaq_islam_islam.htm

    “Peace is thus not something achieved through mutual respect, compromise, love, or anything similar. Peace is something that exists as a consequence of and in the context of submission or surrender.”

    What’s amazing is how strong the Modern Liberal mental disorder is such that they hate and attack Christians, but ignore the true nature of Islam.

    Also, Liberalism will be destroyed under Islam.

  • tiredofbs

    Alz said:
    What’s amazing is how strong the Modern Liberal mental disorder is such that they hate and attack Christians, but ignore the true nature of Islam.

    Also, Liberalism will be destroyed under Islam.

    Hence “Useful Idiots”
    Liberals just cannot help being consistently
    throughout History, on the wrong side ..

  • janet s

    Tell Katie there is such a show, a Canadian production called Little Mosque on the Prairie. Not quite Cosby-esque, but very good for promoting tolerance and learning another culture.

  • Fox News: Serving the Freeper community since 1996

    Brian Mophtali said:
    you certainly are a unique fuck!

    More like a despicable, bigoted fuck.

  • http://www.armwood.com armwood

    Robert Stribley said:
    @Harry

    A brief education/reality check for you:

    http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/08/30/fear-spreads-after-fire-at-tennessee-mosque-site/
    http://gothamist.com/2010/10/11/four_staten_island_teens_arrested_f.php
    http://www.silive.com/news/index.ssf/2010/10/young_student_endures_the_torm.html
    http://gothamist.com/2010/07/22/staten_island_mosque_voted_down.php
    http://abcnews.go.com/WN/murfreesboro-tennessee-mosque-plan-draws-criticism-residents/story?id=10956381
    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/08/residents-cheer-town-rejects-mosque/
    http://www.democracynow.org/2010/8/26/headlines/islamic_center_vandalized_in_california_kentucky_board_rejects_mosque
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/08/09/texas-islamic-center-president-says-vandals-targeting-mosque-ground-zero/
    http://www.examiner.com/islamic-in-national/hate-mongering-bears-fruit-arlington-mosque-vandalized
    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/08/25/99652/california-mosque-vandalized-ground.html
    http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/09/08/20100908phoenix-mosque-vandalized-abrk.html
    http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-mosque-vandals,0,194500.story

    Those stories are from all over the country and there’s plenty more where that came from.

    Now, which Christian do you see beaten for being Christians in the United States?
    Which Christians have been denied a church to worship in?

    Now, would you like to re-evaluate your position? Or are you going to maintain an intellectually dishonest position now?

    Most people on this blog lack the intelectual ability and/or moral rectitude evaluate, let alone revaluate their positions. They are the very people who engage in bigoted acts and claims they do not exist. This site exposes the ugly underbelly of America. Thank God most American’s are better people than the majority of people who pst here!. They need their bigotry to cover their on insecurities and explain their own failures. They are incapable of reason.

  • Fox News: Serving the Freeper community since 1996

    armwood said:
    Most people on this blog lack the intelectual ability and/or moral rectitude evaluate, let alone revaluate their positions. They are the very people who engage in bigoted acts and claims they do not exist. This site exposes the ugly underbelly of America. Thank God most American’s are better people than the majority of people who pst here!. They need their bigotry to cover their on insecurities and explain their own failures. They are incapable of reason.

    Well said armwood.

  • tiredofbs

    tiredofbs said:
    Also, Liberalism will be destroyed under Islam.

    Hence “Useful Idiots”
    Liberals just cannot help being consistently
    throughout History, on the wrong side ..

    Fox News: Serving the Freeper community since 1996 said:
    armwood said:
    Most people on this blog lack the intelectual ability and/or moral rectitude evaluate, let alone revaluate their positions. They are the very people who engage in bigoted acts and claims they do not exist. This site exposes the ugly underbelly of America. T

    I see you are taking the useful idiot side,
    care to explain the bigoted comments you have issues with

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chuck-Fernandez/1584529576 Chuck Fernandez

    We should all have a better understanding of who people are, and what they really say.

    http://friendsofricksanchez.com/

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Roger-Sunderlin/616091262 Roger Sunderlin

    since your news show is going bust katie you can play the mommy on the show.thank GOD that burka will cover your face.after you husband smacks you around a bit just to show you who is boss he does with your body as he wants.too bad we won’t be able to see you face when you behead your daughter for having sex with a guy outside of your religion.should be a great comedy

  • Mr B

    It’s interesting that Couric thinks a show based on Conservative American values would help Muslim’s with their image problem. Although, I think the problem is Radical Islam and not Muslim’s per se. It doesn’t help the image of Muslim’s when apologists want to whitewash Radical Islam or pretend it doesn’t exist.

    There is a reason Dr King chose the path of peace.

  • dhg

    All the created love in the world for Muslims by the non muslim world isn’t going to stop muslim extremists from hating and wanting to kill all of us.they see the world as all fundamentalist islam or destroyed and no other alternatives.

    Couric is wearing rose colored glasses,as many do,but like other attempts to somehow appease the muslims especially the extremists,it will fail and will be used as a tool by them.

    It’s not us who need to stop hating,it’s them.And it’s hard to stop hate in a group of people who value death as much or more than they value life.

  • Brian Mophtali

    “It’s not us who need to stop hating,it’s them” We just committed a genocide in Iraq, one million two hundred thousand dead children, women, and elderlies, and you tell me, IT’S THEM WHO NEED TO STOP. are you serious? You must be not from this earth dude! There are hundred of thousands of websites with footage of genocide committed by us, which can be used in international courts against us. I can assure you that if it goes to court we’ll definitely lose, since the war itself was illegal. My point is imagine if what we did to them was done to us! It will be hard for you to imagine am i correct? 3000 dead VS 1.200.000.

  • tiredofbs

    Brian Mophtali said:
    We just committed a genocide in Iraq, one million two hundred thousand dead children, women, and elderlies,

    You revealed yourself to be the typical terrorist mindset..All your stat’s are bull$hit.
    Americans have great lives, we don’t need to come to Arab Lands Middle East for your culture
    or treasure.We prefer our soldiers to stay at home. No American Service person kill innocents.
    YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR STARTING THIS VIOLENCE that caused all the war & loss of life.
    YOU HIDE GUNS IN CIVILIANS< SEND YOUR CHILDREN TO SUICIDE COWARD KILLING self
    & INNOCENTS in the name of your "Religion of peace" BS…
    AAND U HAVE THE B@LLS TO try & blame war deaths on us?

    WTF did you think was going to happen when you decided to come to our soil & kills us?

    YOU systematically blew up Americans all over the world, in Embassies, in Army barracks, killed
    hundreds of thousands of innocent people(infidels)and had the audacity to hijack planes
    into our buildings first attempt in 91WTC basement bomb, then in 2001kiling 3000+ on our soil?
    George Bush isn't JimmaCarterPeanuts..
    I GUESS U THOUGHT WRONG, now didn't ya?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tony-Westover/1496648721 Tony Westover

    Jon Bershad said:
    It’s not a particularly crazy idea. If there was a show about a relatable Muslim family that was as popular as The Cosby Show, it would do wonders for Islamic relations in the country. Of course, now a days, no show could possibly be as popular as Cosby was in its heights.

    To see if the Cosby effect still works in these days of hundreds of channels and niche audiences, lets see if the gay couple on Modern Family does anything to change the minds of its audience.

    Are you high?

  • Georgia999

    moriarty70 said:
    Canada already has one of these. It’s called “Little Mosque On The Prairie”. It’s actually about a little town that has both a Christian and Muslim congregation, who mostly get along. It’s even got some actors you’d recognize but didn’t realize were Canadian. Still, I think it’d work wonders for the States as well.

    You’re joking, right? I’ll make a wild guess and say Katie Curik has the lead role.

  • Alz

    armwood said:
    Most people on this blog lack the intelectual ability and/or moral rectitude evaluate, let alone revaluate their positions. They are the very people who engage in bigoted acts and claims they do not exist. This site exposes the ugly underbelly of America. Thank God most American’s are better people than the majority of people who pst here!. They need their bigotry to cover their on insecurities and explain their own failures. They are incapable of reason.

    You need some training. Liberals have been telling us to be tolerant of other views and look at you: making fun of others. Face it, your liberalism sucks.

    And I come to that conclusion by using reason – using facts from as many viewpoints as possible.

  • saadasim

    Here is another hate crime done on a Jew by a “Christian” who says he should celebrate Christmas:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90KVt2NzYQI

  • Just4thefax

    Fact: Why make a new show just show one of the old ones they still apply!
    Ali Baba 40 Thieves!

  • Alz

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: Why make a new show just show one of the old ones they still apply!
    Ali Baba 40 Thieves!

    Yes.

    I miss the old days when I only heard about Baghdad once or twice a year on “I Dream Of Jeannie”.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Leah-Ma/1391341060 Leah Ma

    According to something that happened a few years ago in our country, the guy’s daughter wouldn’t even have to date a Jew; she’d just have to want to be a normal jeans-wearing, job-after-school, American girl and her father would STILL kill her. Hey, they also kill daughters who have been raped. I’m not sure if every-single-muslim-family in this country has these attitutes but there are enough of them that I don’t think a show would be a very realistic idea. If you just look it up on the internet there have been quite a few killings lately of muslim women by their family members. This is the reason for the word ‘culture’ guys and it does differ from group to group.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Leah-Ma/1391341060 Leah Ma

    Oh, I forgot to add, I am a liberal. Where do you guys get all these weird ideas about us libs. My entire family are libs and they all feel the same way I do.

  • Alz

    Leah Ma said:
    According to something that happened a few years ago in our country, the guy’s daughter wouldn’t even have to date a Jew; she’d just have to want to be a normal jeans-wearing, job-after-school, American girl and her father would STILL kill her. Hey, they also kill daughters who have been raped. I’m not sure if every-single-muslim-family in this country has these attitutes but there are enough of them that I don’t think a show would be a very realistic idea. If you just look it up on the internet there have been quite a few killings lately of muslim women by their family members. This is the reason for the word ‘culture’ guys and it does differ from group to group.

    It’s agianst our culture so we reject it.

    they treat women like crap so we should reject it. Liberals are mostly silent about it all. The NOW crowd is mostly neutered about all of this.

  • Brian Mophtali

    False Propaganda, only the weak minded can believe your comments, people that believe on tv footage, and false news from Fox are the ones like you! You can’t even back it up with some news from fair reporters, instead you count on FOX, Hanity and crony. Back up your stories with something not deja vue. The world knows FOX is racist, and unbalanced, and they know all those pigs are racists as I said.

    The other thing, I told you before, that without the Arab, many inventions, and science will not even advance, you can’t deny the Arabs inventions of science. So my words are the arabs already got their Noble prize thousand of years ago, 1000 years of discoveries, and inventions was handed by the Arabs and the Muslims to Europeans who added and advanced everything Arab science in 200 years. HEY don’t forget THEY are first
    1000 years of work by Muslims and 200 years of work by Christians created the world we live in today. Never under estimate the Ishmaelites! Algibr from Mr Jabir bnou Hayan, Algorythm from Mr Ghali riam a famous Mathematicien in the Arab word, Medecine from Ibn Sinaa, the French called him Averoes! Hihihihihihihihihihihi

    I hate ignoramus, small mind people that never seen outside of their neighborhood, People that don’t know the world, People that did not go far in their studies, people who don’t even read the news paper or Magazines, people that complain all the time, people who blame everything on others, even their own privet life failure. I just hate them, i mean it.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    An American Honor Killing
    In a quiet suburban parking lot outside of Phoenix, a father floors the gas on his Jeep Grand Cherokee and heads straight for his 20-year-old daughter. His goal: to protect his family’s “honor.” Yes, honor crimes have washed up on our shores.
    By Abigail Pesta

    http://www.marieclaire.com/world-reports/news/latest/honor-killings-in-america

    Iraqi immigrant to be tried for daughter’s death

    By AMANDA LEE MYERS
    The Associated Press
    Sunday, January 2, 2011; 2:22 PM

    PHOENIX — A homicide case that drew attention to so-called honor killings moves into the trial phase this month for an Iraqi immigrant accused of killing his daughter because he believed she was too Westernized.

    Faleh Hassan Almaleki, 50, faces life in prison if convicted. In October 2009, he slammed his Jeep into Noor Almaleki, 20, prosecutors said.

    The woman, who longed to live a normal American life, laid in a coma for two weeks before succumbing to her injuries, which drew outrage from people nationwide.

    Faleh Almaleki moved his family from Iraq to the Phoenix suburb of Glendale in the mid-1990s. He and Noor Almaleki had a tumultuous relationship, according to police and court records, and her close friends.

    At 17, she refused to enter into an arranged marriage in Iraq, enraging her father, according to a court document filed by prosecutors.

    At 19, Noor Almaleki moved into her own apartment and began working at a fast food restaurant but quit and left her new place when her parents kept showing up at her work, insisting that she return home, the document said.

    Later in 2009, she moved into the home of her boyfriend and his parents, Reikan and Amal Khalaf, shortly after she showed up at their house and said her parents had hit her. Faleh Almaleki regularly harassed his daughter and the Khalafs, once telling Reikan Khalaf that if his daughter didn’t move out of their home, “something bad was going to happen,” the document said.

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