Fact: Polls tell me that Corperations are people! Tea Party candidates only in 2012!

“Angry voters”? 
How about “leftist plants”?Amazing how fast this stuff travels from ThinkProgress and other leftist blogs to the marquee slot on the front page of “non-biased” Mediaite, isn’t it?

Brilliant.  Maybe they’ll even spell corperation correctly?

the truth finally comes out.  a micro-phony ……………………and a phonry at the mike.

I should expect that. We had a T-Partee type spell ideologue as “ideolog” a couple of days ago. They revel in ignorance.

CVS-Conservative Victimization Syndrome and Paranoia merge into a catastrophic pathology.

Not a huge fan of Romney, but he is right here.  My small business is technically a corporation even though it is just me and two other people.  At what size a company do the people who own and run the company become evil and “non-humans”.  Liberals have no sense of how the real world works.

Reminds me of John “My Friends!” Mccain! lol
What kind of ‘tarded answer is this “Human Beings my friend.”? WHAT?! 
If this guy can’t handle a few hecklers and loses his cool how the heck is he gonna run the country? 

Good luck getting them to understand that concept, Mittens. Libs think corporations are evil faceless entities(except for GE which is exempt from their wrath for political reasons). And “the rich” are a bunch of fat cats and trust fund babies who will never run out of money that can be taxed by the federal government. Never mind that most of those taxes will ended up being paid by small business owners who are barely scraping by as it is.

Well, they are, aren’t they?

Liberals hate business and capitalism, period.  Well except those fat cats that Obama’s been hosting all week.

These activists that made fools of themselves were probabley paid agitators. We’ve seen this kind of behaviour by Libs/Progs before.

To Romney, corporatio­ns are people, and people are Soylent Green.Remember, when progressiv­es shout at conservati­ve politician­s in a public forum, they’re being thugs and ”hooligans­”.When tea party folks do the same toward Democrats, they’re patriots.** Excerpt from ”The world as we see it … through sh*t-color­ed glasses” by Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity.

Two words for Romney: Global warming. Grow a spine, or get out the way, before the Tea Party frieght train runs you over. Mitt is qualified and has organization, but lots of people see him as another progressive RINO. Healthcare? Good luck in tonights debate.

Except when the t*baggers heckle, it’s PATRIOTIC!

That was weird.  He said no to raising taxes then finished with raising taxes.

I hate to see the non tea party people spell since the tea party average education is college level and they have a 95% employment rate… Love to see what the average education on the huge government entitlement group that is the main supporters of this administration! 

the only thing I objected to is that he used “my friend” like John McCain does all the time.

Mitt Romney is weird.

The TP’ers aren’t paid, like the liberal thugs. If you libs are so strong in your convictions, why do you have to be paid to show up?

Corperations? WTF is a corperation?

I guess just4thefax is a “looser”, thanks for that awesome spelling too, dude.

The worst is “let me be clear”!  Man, that drives me insane!

“Conservatives hate the poor people, the middle class families and the senior citizens.”
If you think that statement is ridiculous, you’re right and so is yours. 

Gee, isn’t it funny how Huffpo has this very same headline? What a coincidence.

this is funny..

At least the teabagger got the “log” part right.

Fox News is saying they were from a liberal think tank called “Iowa Citizens for Community Improvement”

look he is a “RINO”… his record speaks for itself.. and watching baggers support him is the icing on the cake of the frauds that they are..baggers stand for nothing ..frauds frauds frauds…

Really, then why are people describing them as “angry, unemployed white guys?”

I think your data may be a little inaccurate.

Adam you are 100% right! the left will attack big business and the wealthy, unless your a movie star making millions or a sports star. Then they have a pass! The hypocritical left somehow is a Cult that can brain wash the weak minded and convince stupid individuals and moron MTV crowd who live by what happens on Jersey Shore to these thoughts!
Can you imagine what our country would be without rich people? Take a look at Mexico or Somalia that is the future of America if the loony left play class welfare!

Yes, corporations and the people that run them are people too. Very rich people:

Tax rates on the richest Americans have plunged in recent years, and millionaires today pay tax rates that are 25 percent lower than they were in 1995. Meanwhile, income inequality is the worst its been since the 1920s, with the top 1 percent of Americans taking home 25 percent of the country’s total income. Just the richest 400 Americans hold more wealth than the bottom 50 percent of Americans combined, and the richest 10 percent of Americans control two-thirds of the country’s net worth.

Man, those leftist plants. They are one wily group aren’t they?

Hey Guess what, Sarah Palin is a leftist plant used to make the Right look stupid.

Michelle Bachmann is a leftist plant used to make the Right look crazy.

Rush Limbaugh is a leftist plant used to make the Right look racist.

And Glenn Beck is a leftist plant to make the Right look stupid, crazy and racist all at the same time!

Corporate personhood counts amongst the great unintended consequences of the 14th amendment.  Gradual judicial inclusion resulted in the growth of a new branch emerged from the body politic, a ramus now enlarged enough to demand most of what is vital.

Weird that Romnay would notice.

Lol you’re smokin too much T. Lay off a bit why don’tcha. You’re hallucinating. 

“Love to see what the average education on the huge government
entitlement group that is the main supporters of this administration!”

Did you go to the Sarah Palin School of Word Salad Formation, Also?

Dave Weigel reported this as well, I should add. Oddly enough, Colby didn’t think it necessary to divulge that these were people from a liberal think tank, even though that tidbit of info was available to him as he got the story from Weigel.

Yep, especially that ‘George Soros’ or whatever his name is.  That guy HATES capitalism and business.

You mean the liberal hero that pocketed 10 billion off of the downgrade? 

Right now, “Mitt Romney” is trending on Twitter in the US and though there are tweets on other issues, it’s clearly the  “corporations are people my friend” that has gone viral.

As a fact-based statement… ehh, but probably not a good soundbite.

But he’s sure a fan of crony capitalism.

Hey, it’s not personal; it’s business.

Who’s hating business now?

They all are.

Know who else are people?  John Wayne Gacy, Charles Manson, Osama bin Laden..

That doesn’t make it right.

you’re an idiot

Patiently awaiting Mediaite’s report that mentioning Romney’s corporations gaffe is actually stealth attack on Mormonism.

And that’s free market capitalism!

Mitt knows corporations are the same as people because they are his biggest campaign contributors.

You have to wonder if the entire Republican field are trying to explode their campaigns on purpose, because Obama is the best Republican president since Reagan.

Well that explains your idiotic comments so far, my friend.

Fox just showed this (a shorter version) and said that the audience members came from a left wing think tank, and named the group (I’d never heard of it and don’t remember the name).  I know you probably don’t like Fox, but they don’t tend to make statements like that if they can’t back them up.

Besides, even before hearing that, I thought the rhetoric was too talking pointish and the fighting looked pre-planned to me.  Regardless, I thought Romney handled things very well. I was pleasantly surprised in fact.

Especially, since you’re too much of a koch sucker to see I spelled it exactly as the far left loon/sock puppet I was responding to. Gawd, you’re a pos. Then again, that’s why you come here, right? To prove to yourself you’re a low-life pos?

Then there should be a corporate death penalty and when a corporation breaks laws, it should be divided up, sold, and it’s remaining worth given back to it’s shareholders. 

Great – lets start taxing them like people.  Wait, they are only people when contributing unlimited undisclosed contributions to politicians.  They become an ‘artificial entity’ when we tax them.  Silly me.

Ahh.  That’s what bugged me a little when he said it repeatedly.  He needs to can that term.

Well, look! Our resident T-Partee Terrorist just surfaced.

Once again, Jeff, you’re mixing cod fish with street cars. Your first spelling error. Not you second one.

Thanks for your support.

Perhaps, like Jeff Merrill, he “spelled it exactly as the far left loon/sock puppet [he] was responding to.” /sic/

I have to admit, I thought the same thing. Of course, I didn’t write it.

sock alert

I never said that it did.

“Not you second one”

Karma much? Gawd, you’re a loser.

Romney did great here!   Now that is leadership.  He isn’t hiding from the union attacks.

I think Willard handled it well. My objection to him is most assuredly not his lack of intelligence. I believe him to be intelligent.

He was also a dedicated T-Partee beat reporter at one time.

It really doesn’t matter what is “trending on twitter”.  It is just the liberal left that plays that game.

I have to say the Half-Baked Alaskan, Lard Limbaugh and Gle(n)n O’Beckerhead do their jobs very well.

Corporations are people and they are the only type of people I care about……M.Romney

Dumb!

 Conservative Victimization Syndrome again teams up with Paranoia. Sad, really.

What “people,” aside from you?  BSNBC, I suppose?

I like business and capitalism. Period. Exclamation Point. Bold Face. And, unlike you and most your T-Partee Terrorist friends, I’m actually a Job Creator.

“T-Partee!”

*drink*

No Obama is the best Republican president since Clinton.*sigh*

this will be the ‘gift that keeps on giving’ in romney’s demise

“Soylent Green is people too, my friend.”

I liked this one.

You hate him cause you’re a stone cold bigot. Goes w/out saying, though.

I have to hand it to you, Michelle-in-Utah, you produce more krap than any human being I’ve ever known. A goose, yes, a human being, no ….

You’re delusional Lara Doon, but we already knew that.

Could you and Michelle-in-Utah collaborate and produce a list of Republicans who are not RINOs? It would be helpful to me and to others, and it can’t take too long to prepare.

A remarkably short journey.

You omitted Michelle-in-Utah’s friend, Warren Jeffs.

You said true words when you said those words.

Robert employs skyfet in his salon as manicurist . But he pays him by letting him keep the fingernails he sweeps up .

Robert in a snit lately because Obama has let him down . This time Robert’s woman’s intuition failed him when choosing Barry over Hillary .

Liberals always belittle those they fear….regardless of age, gender or race!! Liberals are disgusting scum!

don’t point at me, just listen to the crowd’s disgust!

Robert the Desperate Hairdresser of Austin,Texas is back with his nicknames .

Only liberals use twitter?

Tea Partiers weren’t bussed into the rallies like the union thugs in Wisconsin who came from all over the country. If those folks were really devoted to their cause and not paid agitators, then Prosser and 4 out of the 6 GOP Senators wouldn’t still be in office.

Plenty of individuals are incorporated.  Plenty of individuals get their paychecks from corporations.  Plenty of retirees get dividends from corporations.  Plenty of people get their jobs from corporations.

If the Democrats here don’t like this, and want to put an end to incorporation, let them present their arguments.  That is, if they can find a single argument. 

Unless you’re making your own clothes, hunting and growing your own food, and walking to and from work(if you’re fortunate enough to still have a job in this economy), then you’re heavily dependent on the products of corporations. Who the hell do you think provides most of the goods and services in this world? It’s either mom and pop operations or giant corporations.

Yeah, those liberal plants sounds down right angry.  Of course they do!  That’s what they are being paid for!

Let’s be honest here, the corrupt, liberal media wanted to come out with something to bash Mitt on because he’ll probably be the winner of the debate tonight and they want to preempt any good news.  They are nothing, if not predictable. Tonight, the American people will see a stage full of people, any of which would be much better than the disaster we have now.  Liberals are scared and they should be.

A damning soundbite is news after all.

MITT:’TELL US HOW YOU REALLY FEEL

Poor libby- wanted to do all the talking and none of the listening. Too bad you “community organizers.” We know what ya want and ya ain’t going to get it.

We are seeing you guys torch London and that’s what you want here!

And you’re obviously a right wing plant used to make leftists look like assholes =P

I’m a liberal.  Count me as unafraid in your tally.  

Finally, Romney’s got some Chris Christie in him. 

The organization that sent the hecklers — Iowa Citizens for Community Improvement — has been praised by The Nation, Bill Moyers, The Daily Kos, etc. They have a long history of involvement in far left causes.

So the only reason they would show up at a Republican event is as a plant.

Isn’t a it cute and comical when members of the professional victimhood class project?

who do you think work for corporations, own companies, and own shares in companies?  Hint:  It’s not dogs…..

Gee…what a shock! Colby usually doesn’t behave like a leftist too. /sarc

He did handle the hecklers quite well; and there were more than a few of them, who arrived early to dominate the area closest to the stage.  I’m not even rooting for Romney, but I thought he conducted himself admirably well.  He didn’t lose his cool at all.  He also schooled the morons heckling him - the best intellects a “liberal think tank” could muster – on the fundamental concept that people own corporations.  They still don’t get it, but he schooled them.  

everyone who has stock in their 401k and retirement plans owns a small piece of a companies. otherwise, not many people would care when the stock market plunges….

My deepest sympathies. Have you gotten an increase in your welfare check, or your Section 8 housing?

Reagan was a Repub? You libs have been rewriting him  as a lib.

wow, much better clip, looks like it’s from the same thing but different person and answer

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/see-romneys-contentious-exchange-with-angry-heckling-crowd/

Go Romney, I love it.  Truly Chris Christie moment in this one.   Even the questioner made me laugh. Wonder why colby used this clip instead….

i think it’s just groups getting volunteers to wait in line, and get their moment. Real democracy is a good thing!

Robert very familiar with krap .  A ” Gushing Geyser of Krap ” is he .

some are union, but many are just people.  wisconisn and busing in people is ‘fake’ but these seemed geniune…

look in the mirror, seriously…

who do you think owns, works for manages corporations.  honestly, not everyone can work for the public sector otherwise no one could pay for the public sector and non-profits. 

The blue states are sapped by our beloved red states through the system of federal taxation.  I have worked constantly from an early age and graciously conceed to the support.  No doubt I provided a portion of the funds that have sustained you during your gradual decline.

http://www.visualeconomics.com/united-states-federal-tax-dollars/

Soylent Green is made out of corporations! It’s made out of corporations!

Economics questions for liberals:

QUESTION #1:  If Microsoft stock rises 5% today, Bill Gates’ net worth has increased by $1 billion.  Your assignment is to show me how he took that wealth away from poor people.  Or anyone else, for that matter. 

QUESTION #2:   Now look at other people who became wealthy because of the existence of Microsoft.  There are 5,000 millionaires in the Seattle area who owe their wealth to Microsoft.  Show me how those people took this money away from the poor.  Or anyone else. 

QUESTION #3:   Now let’s look at the 100,000 people who work for Microsoft.  Show me how the money in their paycheck comes at the expense of poor people Or anyone else.

QUESTION #4: Now look at the hundreds of millions of people who use Microsoft products.  Show me how the benefits they get from Microsoft products come at the expense of poor people.  Or anyone else. 

Please submit your answers below for all of us to see.

Learn a trade, libby, so we will know what kind of work you are out of.

Sorry, but YOU are the one living off others, not me.

Here’s
Mittens getting just a *whiff* of what Republicans are going to face on
the old campaign trail next year. Just a whiff of it! The right-wing
has devastated the economy with its “Give everything to the richest 2%
and let the other 98% suffer. And BTW, we’re going to shove Granny off a
cliff the first chance we get!” philosophy.

The end of the era of the Tea Baggers is nigh!

You really don’t get it, do you felix? Nobody objects to rich people making money, only that they pay a fair share of their income to pay for all the things the government must do to make it possible for them to even make money, like maintaining a military, courts, regulatory agencies, roads, etc.

Tax rates on the richest Americans have plunged in recent years, and millionaires today pay tax rates that are 25% lower than they were in 1995 and like 50% lower than they were under Reagan.

Meanwhile, income inequality is the worst its been since the 1920s, with the top 1 percent of Americans taking home 25 percent of the country’s total income.

Just the richest 400 Americans hold more wealth than the bottom 50 percent of Americans combined, and the richest 10 percent of Americans control two-thirds of the country’s net worth.

And for you, that’s cool. And when 400 people control 99% of our national wealth, that will be cool too, because heaven forbid we break up a good game of monopoly.

Now that’s a true plutocrat if I ever seen one!

Oh BS! When it’s Republicans getting hammered in public for their terrible policies and ideas, it’s “liberal plants” doing it. But whenever Democrats get heckled, it’s just “good, hard-working everyday Americans” doing it. Michelle, as always, you are SO full of BS!

Yeah… but that’s literally not true.  Perhaps you can respond to the fact the red states bleed the blue states… that might be helpful to the conversation.  

The agony of CVS.

Moi aussi.*

_____
*If Michelle figures out what that means, I’ll be labeled a European Socialist.

Oh, I see we have a Citizens United worshiper, among us!

Val, did you read the article?  The attack was on corporations. 

But, sure, let’s talk about wealthy people.  Here are some more economics questions:

If someone like Bill Gates, creates wealth for hundreds of thousands of other people, what penalty shold be applied to him? 

If he creates 100,000 jobs, how much more should he be punished for that?

If he creates 4,000 other millionaires, what should the penalty be for that?  

If his products benefits hundreds of millions of consumers, what is the right degree of cost he should bear for that infraction?

Honestly Val, could you provide us with a schedule of punishments and penalties for various levels of job creation and wealth creation?  This would help all of us understand the liberal worldview. 

Obama has a very bad case of Conservative Victimization Syndrome.  He blames Bush, God, the Tea Party, and just about anything else he can think of for all of his problems and mistakes.

great moment for romney, the liberal media sees it as ‘corporations as people, the centris and conservatives see it as ‘I’m not going to raise taxes, if you want someone to raise taxes, vote for Obama’…

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2011/08/11/romney.iowa.argument.cnn?hpt=hp_t2

Watch how this backfires on the Left.   They actually think they are scoring points against Romney.  But his firm push back to these hecklers will increase his popularity.   Wait and see!

They will wish that they had stuck with their earlier approach of not giving Romney any coverage in the news.  But you can’t put the genii back in the bottle. 

A tragic part is that a whole new generation is being raised with this hypocrisy: while the notion of corporate greed is perceived as something not very positive, it proved to be ultimately rewarding. You can whine all you want, they crooked the system and filled up their and only their pockets.

Mitt Romney is now trying to make it look OK that 2% of obscenely rich refuse to make any effort while cutting on the social security should be fine.

O tempora o mores!

That means ” Give me a Pink Lady ” , Robert’s usual drink order at Ramrod’s .

He needs to remember to pick up a present for BFD .
Maybe a nice hair ribbon or scarf to make up after their slapfight at the salon this morning .

Nobody seeks to punish rich people, and the fact that you consider taxation, provided for in our Constitution, to be ”punishment” is instructive.

 Last I Checked a corporation was made up of people, it the actual corporation was not a person

Paying a fair tax rate a la Reagan’s tenure is not “punishing” the rich.  It’s keeping them from using their armies of lawyers from gaming the system. 

OMG!!!! I saw it right when it was released on FOX NEWS and I am seeing in action Colby here and slate reporting it their way and not how it actually looked, it was awesome, Romney who I was not supporting before came across so well, he told everybody to let him talk, and this guy was ranting, rude and so obvious a plant, but he did not get to Romney, it was a moment where you cheered him on, so Colby you are so wrong, this was great, but not surprised the liberals here and slate see it very different, but to see you write it this way after just seeing it over an hour ago, just amazing. You spin your way, I live on SS barely make it and he did not come across as defending corporations, I noticed mostly the rudeness of this man and thought where did he come from, and your wrong the crowd was not negative as you try to make it seem, there were several yelling at that man. Get the story right Colby. And you libs here are just so scared Romney is going to send your man packing, to be honest any Republican is. Obama has ruined this country.  WAY TO GO ROMNEY!!!!!

This too is a tragedy! It all became a popularity contest in which the real issues are pushed in the background. Their programs are unclear, their platforms are the fairy-tales that are completely decoupled from the way they govern. It is all a big fat reality show — unfortunately, with tragic consequences for the little people…

Sorry moose , the soundbite was awesome, its going to be a plus for Romney, that disgusting man was a plant and it was so obvious, Romney treated him with more respect then any lib would have, thats what you libs do, read something and believe what the liberal press and media tell you, your sad, such hate you all have.

I am still waiting for answers to my questions.  

#1 If someone like Bill Gates, creates wealth for hundreds of thousands of other people, what penalty shold be applied to him? 

#2 If he creates 100,000 jobs, how much more should he be punished for that?

#3 If he creates 4,000 other millionaires, what should the penalty be for that?  

#4
If his products benefits hundreds of millions of consumers, what is the
right degree of cost he should bear for that infraction?

Please, please, please provide us with a schedule of penalties for different degrees of job creation and wealth creation.  Inquiring minds want to know how much liberals want to punish these activities. 

It is both.

Saw Romneys ad on TV and boy is it right on, obama and his people and his followers the press and media’s tactics are to kill Romney, they cant run on obamas record so kill Romney, just go after Romney, boy what fear they have of him, look here at mediaite, already two articles going after him, I rest my case. At least tell the truth, not your spin.

Sounds like Romney just laid an “idea log,” a big fat smelly one he’ll wish he would have flushed.

I’m calling “bullsh!t,” anyone with me?

Even a sad clown needs to be more funny than mad.  

http://www.facebook.com/people/Steve-Grammatico/100001193527411

You have a nice hat… you got that going for you… the hat that is.  

I’m glad you cleared that up as I was just in my garden and was trying to figure out which ones were “leftists.”  Sounds as though some of them suffer from paranoid delusion.

More questions for Val:

When Facebook goes public next year, the IPO will turn several thousand Facebook employees into millionaires.  How much  should Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg pay for this offense?

With Apple Computer’s successful entry into the phone, music and other industries, Steve Jobs has taken market share away from foreign companies, and brought jobs to the United States.  What is a suitable punishment for this?  

Larry Page and Sergey Brin, founders of Google, create 50,000 jobs.  Their neighbor create no jobs.  How much more should Page and Brin be penalized for this?

The answer to all of your questions is obviously no/none. I don’t think that’s the angle anyone is taking, though.

How about I set up an outrageous question to show you the other side. Let’s say Bill Gates made $300,000,000 last year. Now say John Sanders made $30,000. Bill pays 10% of his earnings to Uncle Sam and Bill pays 66%

Who would you rather be, Bill or John?

http://www.mediaite.com/online/mitt-romney-campaign-ad-focuses-on-weakly-attributed-kill-romney-quote/

I’m glad you asked, it occurs when the “corporation” pays its shareholders big dividends and its board millions in bonuses then asks it’s workers to accept cuts.  It also happens when the “corporation” pays millions to pacs and super pacs in order to subvert the the will of the people and advance their own causes.  Many “corporations” require their employees to donate to the party or candidate of their choosing. And you may have a different view if a “corporation” takes your market over and forces you out of business.  Corporation cease to be “a person” when they in fact get more than the 1 vote that we as “people” get.

I FEEL
SORRY FOR YOUR PANTS

Felix said:

“More questions for Val:

When Facebook goes public next year, the IPO will turn several thousand Facebook employees into millionaires.  How much  should Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg pay for this offense?

With Apple Computer’s successful entry into the phone, music and other industries, Steve Jobs has taken market share away from foreign companies, and brought jobs to the United States.  What is a suitable punishment for this?  

Larry Page and Sergey Brin, founders of Google, create 50,000 jobs.  Their neighbor create no jobs.  How much more should Page and Brin be penalized for this?”——-Why do you consider taxes, which is our constitutional duty, to be a penalty? Our forefathers were intending to penalize us by authorizing taxes?

Dude, you are asking to be banned!  Believe me, I speak from experience.

Why do you consider paying taxes, provided for in our Constitution, to be a ‘penalty’?

I’m not saying everyone there were plants, but some obviously were.  He got applause when he said he was talking about how it’s sad that we’ve gotten to a place where we condemn success.  Those heckling weren’t people that would vote for him under any circumstance. 

Stalk much? Rhetorical question of course…

Um, no I’m not.  You libs just refuse to acknowledge it. 

I think Felix’s comments are often disingenuous .  There are some people who comment simply because they desire a reaction.  

Since when did “data” prevent people with an agenda, msnbc commentators or otherwise, from departing from the accepted narrative in setting forth their descriptions?

Tex,

I have responded to Steve twice today.  Once after he attacked me and once after he attacked RRK (something he does with a compulsion).  Less stalking than casual defense.  

YeeeeAaaaahhh,’is that why his soundbite is going viral like nobodies business?

Scratch that… three times now… couldn’t help myself just now.  The sad clown needs to look in the mirror.  

Of coarse corporations are people.  That’s why the Bill of Rights says, “We hold these tax loopholes to be self evident”.

Do you have cites that show that “Many ‘corporations’ require their employees to donate to the party or candidate of their choosing.”?  I know unions do that by using union dues for that purpose but no corporation I ever worked for required me to donate to anything. 

By the way, why do you put the word corporations in quotes?

There’s no “defense” about it. It’s cyber stalking and you know it. Get a life.

Hey, let’s just keep trying to make president Obama seem foreign, out of touch and “not like us”.

LOL… yes Tex… you are far too clever to fool.  

When in fact it’s just Bush and the TeaParty….you can leave God out of it.

@ Michele/Liberal Hater/Seeing Whatever:
No, michelle you are simply full of shit. You’re guilty of exactly what he said. Contrary to what you believe everything is not some vast left wing conspiracy. Obama won fair and square, the healthcare bill doesn’t fund abortion and people are just as fed up with Republicans and Tea Party bullshit as they are Democrats and President Obama.

Sounds like the truth slipped out from Romney’s lips.  

Not Dumb.

If I pour unused paint into the river I would pay a fine.
If I blow up a mountain to get what’s inside I get locked up
If I allow a mine to collapse, killing a dozen people, I get locked up.  Maybe executed depending on the jurisdiction.
.
Etc., etc., etc,
If corporations are people then why aren’t they punished for killing people or damaging the environment?

Tim DeChristopher made phony bids for gas and oil field leases and got sentenced to two years. 
But be the one responsible for flammable tap water and nothing happens.

Oh Noooooo! Romney is pro business!!

Answer the dam SS question. Instead his answer was to blame BO. The Question was, what are you going to do? 

I knoooooooooooooow

The liberal plant in the audience said, “We are on Social Security and Medicare, they are tremendous programs – what are you going to do to strengthen Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid?”

The sucking off the ‘tit of the American Taxpayer’ Liberal completely contradicted himself, if those are tremendous programs, why do they need strengthened?

Corporations are money making machines, corporations do not have a conscience, corporations by law do not play by the same rules as people, my friend.

They are tremendous for the good they do, not because they are without cost.

All IPODs, IPhones, and IPads are made in China — the only jobs Apple has created in the US are sales jobs

you gotta love hysterical liberals

you’re from australia??

The real racist thinks that because he is posting under a number of different names that is the same as being a job creator. 

You’re right, a dog would never do the things to people that corporations do.

every American with a 401K owns stock in many corporations.  

Too bad none of the candidates have the credentials, or the balls, to start anything over Mitt’s let them eat cake moment. But it is looking like taxing the rich and corporations more is starting to become the obvious discussion these days. I mean after you have cut your expenses to the bone isn’t it time to talk about, perhaps, increasing revenue? And who has most of the money, the super wealthy. No one else. The top 400 wealthiest people have more combined than the bottom 50% of the population. That’s out of whack. Obviously. This is not a game of monopoly. And the people finally have the vote. They do not need to riot, just vote. And even quite a few prominent wealthy people are saying that taxes are too low.

it’s going “viral” because so many liberal news outlets are begging for something, anything, to bolster the sagging ratings of the current “man in the white house”

But you do want to punish them.  How else can you describe making someone pay a higher share of taxes on the income they make?  They are already paying higher taxes based upon the difference in income between themselves and those who make less.  But you want them to pay a higher share of taxes based upon their higher income. 

I’m guessing in that alternative universe of your world-view that you think wealthier people should pay higher prices for things too, right?  Let’s leave taxes out of it for now.  What would be different if you went to Best Buy to purchase a TV, and Bill Gates went to Best Buy to buy the same TV?  Logically, you would think Bill Gates should be charged exponentially more for the same TV just because he has more money, correct?  If not, why not?  Why is it ok to ask him to pay a higher percentage of taxes on income and not ask him to pay higher prices for goods, too? 

Bottom line:  You think it’s ok to make people pay a higher percentage of taxes based upon higher income.  Why is that fair?  This is where liberal philosophy fails.  It wants; it needs sugar daddies to fund programs.  And what’s worse is that you’re so blind that you can’t see the fallacy of your philosophy.

They’re pretty easy to spot. They’re usually the noxious, scrawny looking, unwanted weeds choking out the tall, beautiful flowers.

Yeah…I guess those “armies” of lawyers you’re dreaming of work for free, right?  Such a silly yet typical response on your part.  Time to grow up, laddie.

kind of like unions do, eh??

kind of like unions do, eh??

Romney meant to say:  Corporations are “my friends” people.

Romney meant to say:  Corporations are “my friends” people.

Just a whiff of what’s to come!

I want to thank the Tea Party too. seriously  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_Kuo8lb6Bg

Thank you for the Tea Pary. seriously http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_Kuo8lb6Bg    Now that’s American!

Speaking of the Tea Party http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_Kuo8lb6Bg

link to a valid source, or don’t post stats.  numbers are only as good as the source and details.  

When you use specific numbers, source it.  otherwise, it’s just gibberish… 

you wanna bet?

What do you think of special inerests? Did you know the Saudis own most of our corporations.. that’s patriotic, right?

Keep the government out of my medicare!

A true plutocrat if I ever saw one.

A woman in a hot air balloon was lost and late for a Balloonist rendezvous.  She lowered her balloon to Fisherman on a small lake below and asked him he could give her directions?

The Fisherman had a GPS and replied:  ”You are 30 feet off the ground, 2346 feet above sea level. You are 31 degrees, 14.97 minutes north latitude and 100 degrees, 49.09 minutes west longitude.”

The Lady Balloonist rolled her eyes and said:  ”You must be a Republican?”  
“I am, replied the Fisherman.  ”How did you know?”
The Lady Balloonist replied, “Everything you told me is technically correct, but I have no idea what to do with the information, and I’m still lost.  Frankly, you’ve not been able to help me.”

The Fisherman smiled and said: “You must be an Obama Democrat.”
“I am” relied the Lady, “How did you know?”
The Fisherman replied: “You don’t know where you are, due to a large quantity of hot air.  You made a promise you have no idea how to keep, and you expect me to solve your problem.

“Your’e in exactly the same position you were in before we met, but somehow, now its my fault.”  Ouch!

A liberal plant harrassing Romney and the media takes the bait, or is given the story to report the way the left wants it told and not the way it happened.  He was a plant, kindof like how CNN put plants in the audience during the 08 campaign to make democrat points and got caught in action for it.

Here’s one I think you’ll enjoy.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_Kuo8lb6Bg

So all those people in the crowd booing were plants too, eh? Does Romney have ANY followers in that crowd or were they just all plants?

After what Greg just showed you I guess you can’t rest your case.

So the moral of the story of specifics versus euphemism, euphemism is correct?

HUH?!?!?

So the moral of the story of specifics versus euphemism, euphemism is correct?

HUH?!?!?

I look forward to you Posting your letter absolving yourself of current/future Medicare and social security benefits.

LOL

It used to be Japanese, and before that, the Dutch. So what?

Headline should be “crazy Liberals plants invade GOP debate to cause trouble”

Those aren’t ‘angry voters’ those are crazy Liberals…who are always angry.

You are remarkably stupid.

Question:  Is the man, the protester, the “plant,” is he protected by the second amendment?  Or, do “time, place and manner” considerations come into play?

Is the protester engaged in speech, or a disturbance, is he providing a thought, or an action?

What do we do when one man’s speech, impedes another’s?

That joke was funnier when I first heard it 30 years ago, and it was about engineers and managers.

Wow, I thinked we’ve identified the dumbest person on the Internet.

Could you be a bigger moron?  There’s no “punishment” in paying a fair share of taxes.  The wealthiest 400 people in the US in 2008 (by income) paid an average income tax rate of 18.1%.  That’s lower by far than a lot of people working for them.

Thanks to (conservative, corporatist) Supreme Court rulings, legally they pretty much are.

Uh actually Einstein, their engineering, design and a lot else is in Cupertino California.  10,000 people. Only the manufacturing is sent overseas.  Oh, and I guess the people building their new building will be Americans, unless you imagine that it’s going to be prefabricated in China and shipped over here on the world’s largest ship.  Oh, and the 12,000 people that are going to be in the new building.

Economic Treason:  ”An action or behavior by a person or group, that is detrimental to Americans or America, in areas of economics and/or security.”

Economic Treason was/is not envisioned to be criminal in nature, rather, is civil and societal. However, criminal penalties are a possibility, depending on America’s needs and subsequent codification.

Nevertheless,  Allowing jobs to leave the country, allowing business or ownership to leave the country while allowing lower paid labor to enter the country, all of which creates a “false economy,” can be construed as “Economic Treason.”

In the perfect economic world, the Conservative desires free enterprise and that “water seek its own level.”  Ergo, the strong survive, the weak perish.  Such is dependent on a level and fair playing field.

“Economic Treason” violates the “fair playing field.” 

Yes, it would easily fit that context. I try to put up a joke a couple of times a week. Sometimes a poem, even original poems. Sometimes relevant lyrics. Every Memorial Day I post “Flander’s Fields” and “The Death of the Ball Turret Gunner.”

The corrupt liberal media owned and operated by Large Corporations.  Wait that doesnt make much sense now that I think about it…

Corporations are people, but with a difference. A corporation is “body” according to law.
Aside from making a profit and taking advantage of tax breaks, if they are there, the purpose of forming a corporation is to protect oneself.

 Say I own a home and a car and I owe nothing on them. I want to start any kind of business and I invest in it myself or I get others to invest in it. Then the business fails, and owes twice as much money to creditors as all the assets that the business has. The creditors want me to sell everything I’ve got to pay those debts, but they can’t make me sell my house and car because they belong to me, not my corporation. (Good thing I didn’t list them as corporate assets!)

That sums up as: I don’t owe you money. My corporation owes you money, and it has sold its assets to pay you. There is nothing left. That is how a corporation is a “person.”

If you are one of the nuts who claim corporations are bad, you will rant about how unfair that is. If you understand how capitalism works, you understand that there is nothing unfair about this. The people and other corporations who lose in this case knew the risk they took.

However, I do have a problem with a corporation being a political person. I don’t mind if the CEO and the Board of Directors want to contribute to a party or candidate with the money they earned from their corporate work. That is personal property that they can do what they wish with. That applies to the Koch brothers and to George Soros or anybody else you want to name. Their money. Their loss or gain.

If I am working for a corporation that chooses to support the other side, I will be angry. I am putting my sweat and mind and muscle into supporting myself, my family, and my betterment. I am hired to make my corporation better off, not to support a political party or candidate. If I want to do that, I will do it myself.

If I am an investor, I want my dividends or bond worth to grow, or I want the corporation to invest the money in expansion, not politics. I will do my own “investing in politics.”

In short, the CEOs who run public corporations make enough money to spend their own on politics. If they divert corporate money to politics, they are not good capitalists!

The Koch brothers get a pass on this. They are the sole owners of their (several) corporations, so the profits they earn and the salaries they give themselves are theirs to spend as they wish. There are liberals who are in a similar situation.

A “Top Scientist” who does not finish his thoughts?  Rather, simply uses ad hominem believing such will make his point.

If “Byrnie” is so “stupid,” how will Byrnie know what he has said or done that was “stupid,” unless you complete your assertion?

In other words, you need to enlighten poor Byrnie with you assumed intellect.

Of Course, your response will give Byrnie, or me, or, anyone the opportunity to refute your assertion?

1st Amendment. Not 2nd Amendment.

Thanks, I was at the range today, maybe that accounts for the slip. Scored a 46 out of 49 @ 15yds with my 1911 (standing, modified weaver) Only pussies shoot 7@10 yds! LOL

Capitalism means let he who has money to invest invest. Our government does not allow foreigners to own a significant portion of our media (prevents foreign propaganda) or enough to control our defense industries, but other property is fair game to the hunters of capitalism.
Economic treason would be violating a government imposed blockade, i.e. sanctions against Libya as an example from the past.
Economic treason would be selling tires and fuel products to Germany after we declared war on Germany and before then if the Congress had declared a blockade before actual war.
Treason cannot depend on your definition of treason, or I would be in jail for simply disagreeing with you.

I was a lousy shot with the .45, but then I only had one in my hands at a range once when I was a private. No training or practice. Expert with a rifle, though. :-)

“Economic Treason” was not envisioned to be criminal in nature, rather, is civil and societal.” Ergo I am wandering in the realm of “Philosophy.” My “philosophy” is to try NOT to do things that harm my Country, hence, “economic treason” could do just that………….Until we have a defined and basic philosophy, we shouldn’t make laws?

Just like a rifle: DON’T FLINCH! Once you stop flinching your scores get better. LOL

How is taxing the upper brackets at a high rate unfair any more than the graduated tax system itself is unfair? Under the well known progressive, Eisenhower, the upper bracket was taxed at 90%. It was 50% under the progressive Reagan.

This is not a game of who can make the most money. Because when enough people are effected, and that number is approaching 50% of the population, they will vote in people who will track down those who have rendered our national work product unto their own pocket, the Sam Waltons of the world, and ask for our nation’s fair share because we are no man’s slave.

I rest my case.

Exactly the opposite, unions work for their members.

Your name calling is juvenile. I bet your one of those that calls conservatives Hitler and racist and baby killers. Grow up.

These folks were paid agitators and there is nothing good about that.

Frustrating, isn’t it?  You write a nice piece and the ebb and flow of the Net passes you bye?

Being the Philosopher, I’d take a couple of your points and try to work my through them in a way that solves the problem.  For instance:  Corporate Law that requires management to make every decision based on the profitability of the Corporation.  Hence, possible “economic treason.”

Stanley Tools, moved off shore, but then the share holders recognized they were committing economic treason, and asked the management to return the Corporation back to the States.

I believe that starting and running a business which employs Americans, internally and tangentially, is a VERY patriotic endeavor.  ”Economic treason” was envisioned as a philosophy, a way of life and nationalistic–Americans for America!

Anyway, your Post offers much substance.

My dear friend. That is what is called an “Oligarchy”, you will not find that in what is to be a “Democracy”. Remember, that is far from “of the people, by the people and for the people.”

Look up any business law book or any compendium about corporations and you will find the following:Despite not being natural persons, corporations are recognized by the law to have rights and responsibilities like natural persons (“people”). Corporations can exercise human rights against real individuals and the state,and they can themselves be responsible for human rights violations. Corporations are conceptually immortal but they can “die” when they are “dissolved” either by statutory operation, order of court, or voluntary action on the part of shareholders. Insolvency may result in a form of corporate ‘death’, when creditors force the liquidation and dissolution of the corporation under court order, but it most often results in a restructuring of corporate holdings. Corporations can even be convicted of criminal offenses, such as fraud and manslaughter.
Yes, indeed, corporations are considered persons or people and are legally treated as such. Romney used it as a metaphor. His statement is based on logically sound law.

 It is the worst thing
in the world when a major political party (i.e., the Democrats) calls for the
“death” of the leading Republican contender (Mitt Romney).  They want to say that it is a metaphor–yet
they won’t allow Romney to use “corporations are people” also as a
metaphor.  Typical double-standard
Democrats and Progressives.  They are
going down big time on November 6, 2012.