Jon Stewart >Keif Olbermann

You just got served and pwned Olbermann.

The Jester just clowned the buffoon.

Quick! Reinstate the worst persons list so you can name Stewart the worst.

Shark…meet Olbermann…Olbermann, meet shark.

cd ohio said:
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Sloppy seconds is on the menu.

Just “joking” you know like Behar, Maher, Stewart and Yusuf Islam.

;)

geeze, the writers her sure got KO fever tonight.

seriously, if Keith Olbermann is one of the “good guys,” hand me a red lightsaber.

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Kird said:
geeze, the writers her sure got KO fever tonight.

seriously, if Keith Olbermann is one of the “good guys,” hand me a red lightsaber.

Olbermann is an institution for the institutionalized at Mediaite.

X^)

That Yusuf. What a kidder.

puma slipper woman $30

That just sounds so exotic.

Olbermann Tackles ‘False Equivalency’ Between MSNBC And Fox, Defying Jon Stewart

I must say, I agree with Olby here. It is a false equivalency – FOX actually has viewers and FOX present both sides, and is fair and balanced.

Months ago I read a recap of the Worst Persons targeted by Olby – like 92% were Conservatives. His guests are always liberal, and he is a sexist joke.

writer said:
That Yusuf. What a kidder.

I know. Check out this joke:

Knock, knock.

Who’s there? Salman Rushdie burning in effigy?

No, the real thing burning!

Get it! Ha, ha, ha! Get it!

Jonathan Alter…rotflmao

Keith Olbermann…rotflmao

All of Keith’s guests…rotflmao

I am a fan of both of these guys and will remain a fan of both, but Jon got it wrong on this one and he should know that. Every night I am amazed at the performance of both of these guys. They serve the people up a plate full of worthwhile news and comedy. But to compare Keith or MSNBC with the other … is a little below the belt. I hope Keith and Jon can move forward with their much needed skills in informing their viewers in their own unique ways. A war is brewing on the media but I do not think it will include these two guys. As a viewer I want the truth, and the facts behind the story. I do not need to be prompted to the appropriate time to laugh or sigh. The people are smart enough to know who they are and we do not need pundits or so-called analyses to direct our actions.

And while the fact that he has suspended the most dynamic segment of his show, “Worst Persons in the World,” may send a mixed message,

Whats new there??? His messages are about a mixed up as a dyslexic two year old trying to recite the alphabet…

Olbermann objected to the way MSNBC was portrayed at the rally, “as if both [MSNBC and Fox News] were equidistant from sanity.” He brought on Newsweek’s Jonathan Alter to debate the topic”

Finally, you are right KO: MSNBC is so far removed from sanity, you broadcast from a padded room.

And you brought that lib abomination& shill, Jonathan Alter, to discuss this? The same Alter who wrote that if McCain won, it was do to racism?

LOL

Since 4 – 5 times as many people watch FOX as MSNBCHOWHARDWESUCK, Keith Ubertool is right, there is no equivalency. And then Donkey Boy says tonight that it is so bad for Dems not because Obama is too liberal, it’s that he is NOT LIBERAL ENOUGH…………..LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

sarainitaly said:

FOX present both sides, and is fair and balanced.

Oh jesus cmon. You seem semi-intelligent. Don’t try passing off that hilarious bullshit.

Jackie_Treehorn said:
Oh jesus cmon. You seem semi-intelligent. Don’t try passing off that hilarious bullshit.

Yes, libs on FOX- Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Bob Beckell, Susan Estrich, Jon Stewart, Lanny Davis, etc.

Conservatives on MSNBC: Meghan McCain- LMAO

notsofast said:
Yes, libs on FOX- Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Bob Beckell, Susan Estrich, Jon Stewart, Lanny Davis, etc. Conservatives on MSNBC: Meghan McCain- LMAO

Larry O’Donnell had a GOP congresswoman from TN on tonight along with Ed Rendell tonight. He asked her “specifically, what things would Republicans do do try to help the economy if they gain control?” When she began to answer by saying “first, the Bush tax cuts should be extended” Larry the cable guy immediately groaned audibly and said “aw geez” as she was just strating to speak. When she finished, he said to Rendell “well Ed, I didn’t hear anything worthwhile there, what do you say?” Like an 11 year old. Who just had his marbles stolen. On those rare occasions they do have Repubs on, they literally act like pissy little children. Of course Fox leans right. On the other hand, MSNBC is a pathetic joke with hosts that behave like emotionally dysfunctional babies. Again, Ubernutts is right, there is no equivalency.

Here’s the thing Keith;
Jon never said Fox and MSNBC were equal in there hyperbolic and bullshit offenses. His point is there is a line you cross when you stop being a news person informing the public and you’re just using exaggerated attacks for ratings, and all the major networks do it too much. {not necessarily equally}

You are encouraged to continue to take on the bullies, and challenge the bullshit, but do it with piercing facts and less yelling.

“He brought on Newsweek’s Jonathan Alter to debate the topic, who agreed that there were significant differences between the two networks. ”

Funniest line in the story.

btw; Jon just did a very funny bit about the Fox exclusive coverage of Obama’s racism in mentioning riding in the back {which was obviously bus even though he’d been saying car for weeks} He rapped it up with a clip of Michael Steel telling Nancey Pelosi to ride in the back of the bus. OMG, wait until Fox finds out. They will crucify that racist bastard.

We Liberals love Jon but, most of us including the bloggers are on team Keith today. I agree totally. Enough with the false equivalencies. As for civility, we all have been posting one of our favorite Daily Show bits. See if you can spot the civility. We couldn’t either but, we still loved it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml_R9QisgRY

Oh, and those of you who can’t tell the difference between fox and MSNBC should watch the Daily Show from tonight. It’s a clear and classic example of the bullshit they fabricate on fox. Serious bullshit!

Wow, does Comcast know that it’s Olbermann’s network, that is breaking news to be sure.

Wait, Comcast knew the talent they were getting, and they still bought it Universal, wow.

Perhaps Comcast should have gone to CNBC to see if it was financially savvy to purchase Universal.

This would have been more believable had KO debated this with someone not already predisposed to eager with him, like Alter.

He’s actually included that in a montage about media hyperbole and the point within that very clip is that he doesn’t sell himself as fair and balanced or a news organization.

Civility is being interpreted as a lack of passion and confrontation. It does not have to be that. Expsoe the bullshit with the truth, without wallowing in it.

roxsteady said:
Oh, and those of you who can’t tell the difference between fox and MSNBC should watch the Daily Show from tonight. It’s a clear and classic example of the bullshit they fabricate on fox. Serious bullshit!

Well of course he had to attack Fox…the election is just tomorrow…so he is doing a “hail mary pass” for Obama.

……he made it clear he will not tolerate his network being compared to Fox news….. and just what the hell is that fruitbowl going to do about it?

Surprise. Pretty much every pundit that has weighed-in on the issue and the cable networks don’t think they’re the problem. And of course, once you get past the idea that Olbermann thinks that all political discourse began with the advent of Fox News, you then have to wrap your head around the idea that he believes himself some kind of bastion, our Superman, the nation’s lone defender against a bully.

But, what if Fox weren’t to change their tune? So what? They’re still going to have the same viewers and they may push the same agenda, but everyone else will be having reasonable discourse and they’ll just become more of an outsider.

Right now we have one station spewing stuff from the right and another spewing stuff from the left. We have our leaders, pundits and internet commentators playing to their respective audiences, positioning themselves for recognition and in the middle where most of us live, it feels awfully alone.

I could sit here and go through any night’s programming on MSNBC and find as many misstatements or overstatements, as I could on Fox. Contrary to Alter’s position, neither network is firmly rooted in fact because their worlds are too small. They only know what they see coming through their own pipes or on the limo rides from their apartments, but the rest of us, the majority, the ones whom Mr Stewart tried to represent aren’t limited to any one stream of information or just a small window, we have the larger view and neither side of the cable wars serve our society well.

I suggest Mr. Olbermann take a break from tweeting and from watching sports to pay a visit to Hulu. He pull up any episode of “Dragnet” and pay attention to words of Joe Friday. “Just the facts ma’am. That’s what we want.

In another Olbermann related story Olbermann’s ratings Friday were 1.066 in prime time 8pm, and Bill O’Reilly’s was 3.242 at the same time.

O’Reilly’s numbers for his repeat 11pm show were 1.527 beating out Olbermann’s prime time slot.

O’Reilly’s combined Demo numbers were larger than Olbermann’s total viewers.

lol

Glenn Beck’s 2pm Pacific time, 5pm Eastern had a total of 2.381 beating out Olbermann’s 8pm prime time numbers.

more lies..

http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/lachlan-markay/2010/11/01/keith-olbermann-falsely-claims-he-never-called-cocky-racist-code-wor

He brought on Newsweek’s Jonathan Alter to debate the topic, who agreed that there were significant differences between the two networks.

Frances, what Olbermann does with Jonathan Alter is not debate. In fact, Olbermann is allergic to debate. If you’re interested in watching actual debate, a good place to go is Fox News.

notsofast said:
Yes, libs on FOX- Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Bob Beckell, Susan Estrich, Jon Stewart, Lanny Davis, etc.

Conservatives on MSNBC: Meghan McCain- LMAO

Joe Fucking Trippi is a Fox News Contributor. What else needs to be said?

I say this every time some news anchor or pundit tries to take on Jon Stewart, and I’ll say it again:

STOP! Don’t try to get into a fight with Stewart. You WILL lose, possibly in spectacular fashion. It NEVER ends well. Whether it’s Rick Sanchez being fired, Tucker Carlson losing his show (Crossfire), or merely Jim Cramer being embarrassed during their interview. It NEVER ends well. The only guy who came out relatively okay was Joe Scarborough, and that’s because after 3 or 4 days, he realized it was a lost cause and dropped it.

Nothing sums up Olbermann as much his implication that any behavior he engages in is fine, since he’s a liberal.

omega919 said:
I say this every time some news anchor or pundit tries to take on Jon Stewart, and I’ll say it again: STOP! Don’t try to get into a fight with Stewart. You WILL lose, possibly in spectacular fashion. It NEVER ends well. Whether it’s Rick Sanchez being fired, Tucker Carlson losing his show (Crossfire), or merely Jim Cramer being embarrassed during their interview. It NEVER ends well. The only guy who came out relatively okay was Joe Scarborough, and that’s because after 3 or 4 days, he realized it was a lost cause and dropped it.

Except when Stewart gets schooled by Bill O’!

Quote: “(Olbermann)…brought on Newsweek’s Jonathan Alter to debate the topic.” Wait, WHAT? Was the word ‘debate’ actually used in that sentence? I laughed so hard that milk came out my nose. And I didn’t even drink any. I never watch MSNBC, but I sure will today. Must-See TV!

Frances:

Olbermann DOES NOT debate; he brings on people that suck up to him and agree with him only. Be honest.

As for Stewart – when he stops taking clips out of context and presenting a false image of the discussion, then he can criticize others for doing the same, until then, he has no legitimacy criticizing others.

What will Keith do now that WPITW is suspended? How will he deal with O’Reilly’s comments last night?

Olbermann is right – MSNBC and FNC do not compare at all. MSNBC is the propaganda arm for the DNC, FNC is fair, balanced and unafraid. Just look at who in the administration is using the “lean forward” terminology, as if it was all coordinated between the DNC and MSNBC.

Of course he thinks MSNBC commentators are “sane” because he thinks they’re right – and everyone else is wrong.

Jackie_Treehorn said:
sarainitaly said:

FOX present both sides, and is fair and balanced.

Oh jesus cmon. You seem semi-intelligent. Don’t try passing off that hilarious bullshit.

Why Fox News Just Might Actually Be the Most Fair and Balanced Cable News Network on the Air
If you compare Fox to CNN and MSNBC, you will undoubtedly find more vigorous debate of the issues. CNN and MSNBC neglect to truly represent the conservative view.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/119517/why_fox_news_just_might_actually_be_pg2.html?cat=9

Clinton said that her staff had sent her “some independent study” “which seemed to suggest that” “in terms of the fairness of the coverage,” Fox News Channel has treated her campaign more fairly than MSNBC.
http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowldc/hillary-slams-msnbc-praises-fox_b10384

“We did call them on it at Fox, in fact I think you went on record saying that Fox was the most fair and balanced place during the time when you were running,” Carlson said.
“There were a lot of times when I appreciated the commentators and reporters on Fox who did step up and make that clear,” Clinton responded.
http://senseofevents.blogspot.com/2009/10/hillary-clinton-foxnews-is-fair-and.html

Gov. Ed Rendell – FOX News is Fair and Balanced
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BspCUHqXME0&feature=player_embedded

Fox had the most balanced coverage of any network during the same campaign
http://www.forbes.com/2009/11/14/fox-news-barack-obama-media-opinions-contributors-s-robert-lichter.html?_r=1&ref=television

“I thought that Fox’s coverage during the primary was comprehensive and fair and evenhanded,” Mr. Howard Wolfson
Clinton campaign chairman Terry McAuliffe declared live on Fox, “Fair and Balanced Fox!”FOX news signed Lanny Davis, a former special counsel to Bill Clinton and a vocal support of Mrs. Clinton, as a contributor.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/07/wolfson/

Days before Mr. McAuliffe’s comment, Ed Rendell, the governor of Pennsylvania and a Clinton supporter, said that Fox had done the “fairest job” covering the race and had “remained most objective of all the cable networks.”

And Phil Singer, a spokesman for Mrs. Clinton, said the campaign had received a “fair shake from Fox when we’ve been on the network.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/02/business/media/02fox-1.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1

The Truth about Fox News Bias
http://www.politicaltruthblog.com/2008/09/truth-about-fox-news-bias.html

Olbermann and Stewart have it half right. Many MSNBC shows are actual journalism their core, unlike Fox News. But they’re all filled with petty barbs and such, and massive hyperbole.

Ref: Lengthy Cut and Paste Extolling Virtues of Republican Propaganda Ministry

sarainitaly says:
November 2, 2010 at 7:05 am

I’ll spare my fellow readers and commentators a repaste of your gassy emission but I will say that I understand why a whiny and petulant sort of person would be drawn to FOX “News”. It tends to feed those pathologies which are acted out in the manner I just described by always affirming the negative, the cynical and by never challenging with information and ideas. I can certainly understand why a segment of American (and apparently Italian) society is drawn to this. Fortunately, of course, it is a very, very, very small segment.

Olbermann and the rest of the crew at MSNBC are like the paparazzi for Fox News hosts. “Today, Glen Beck did this. O’Reilly said that. Steve Doocy is wearing a Ralph Lauren suit with a tie from Brooks Brothers.”

MSNBC is really just a channel for gossip about Fox and Sarah Palin.

There is no middle ground. There is no reasonable discourse. It’s black and white, there is no gray with him. He has not only jumped the shark; he has jumped the fence into fanaticism. When you use ‘bully’ terminology to describe your political ideology, you have lost your ability to think objectively. KO: do what I told Rachel to do—-shut up!

Teb said:
Larry O’Donnell had a GOP congresswoman from TN on tonight along with Ed Rendell tonight. He asked her “specifically, what things would Republicans do do try to help the economy if they gain control?” When she began to answer by saying “first, the Bush tax cuts should be extended” Larry the cable guy immediately groaned audibly and said “aw geez” as she was just strating to speak. When she finished, he said to Rendell “well Ed, I didn’t hear anything worthwhile there, what do you say?” Like an 11 year old. Who just had his marbles stolen. On those rare occasions they do have Repubs on, they literally act like pissy little children. Of course Fox leans right. On the other hand, MSNBC is a pathetic joke with hosts that behave like emotionally dysfunctional babies. Again, Ubernutts is right, there is no equivalency.

Deserves to be seen again. Spot on, spot on.

sarainitaly said:
FOX present both sides, and is fair and balanced.

lol…go check out the “back of the bus” thread and come back and say that again.

Latin2 said:
Shark…meet Olbermann…Olbermann, meet shark.

It’s a pity, but the shark spit him back out. It could have been the shark was extending professional courtesy It’s more likely that the shark has better standards and does not want that much poison in its stomach.

“He brought on Newsweek’s Jonathan Alter to debate the topic”

What a stupid line. Everyone knows that Obermann is to much of a pussy to actually have an opposing view on his show. The line should be re-written to say”

“He brought on Newsweek’s Jonathan Alter to parrot this thoughts of the topic”

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
lol…go check out the “back of the bus” thread and come back and say that again.

go check the other thread on this (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/exclusive-robert-gibbs-responds-to-megyn-kelly-segment-on-presidents-back-seat-remarksi/#comment-198301) and my comments about it.

Or better yet, go ask Bill or Hillary how they feel about *racially charged metaphors*.
Turn about sure is a bitch. I feel like I’m living in a fairy tale.

On every other channel – fairy tale or Hussein or *cocky* were racially charged metaphors. But FOX is not allowed to *hear* a racially charged metaphor in *sit in the back*?

Some_Dude said:
Olbermann and Stewart have it half right. Many MSNBC shows are actual journalism their core, unlike Fox News. But they’re all filled with petty barbs and such, and massive hyperbole.

Brit Hume
Chris Wallace
Shephard Smith
Harris Faulkner
Martha MacCallum
Bill O’Reilly
Jim Angle
Sean Hannity
Alan Colmes
Greta Van Sustern -
Neil Cavuto
Charles Krauthammer
Juan Williams
Michael Brown
Geraldine Ferraro
Howard Wolfson
http://www.politicaltruthblog.com/2008/09/truth-about-fox-news-bias.html

Of course it’s false to compare MSNBC and Fox News.

Fox News is NEWS. MSNBC is PROPAGANDA. The differences are quite obvious.

sarainitaly said:
go check the other thread on this (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/exclusive-robert-gibbs-responds-to-megyn-kelly-segment-on-presidents-back-seat-remarksi/#comment-198301) and my comments about it.

Or better yet, go ask Bill or Hillary how they feel about *racially charged metaphors*.
Turn about sure is a bitch. I feel like I’m living in a fairy tale.

On every other channel – fairy tale or Hussein or *cocky* were racially charged metaphors. But FOX is not allowed to *hear* a racially charged metaphor in *sit in the back*?

Please be honest with yourself. I suppose it’s to be expected with our first black president that the news would exploit the race element that it contains, but after complaining constantly about false accusations of racism and finding racism where none exists, when it comes to the Tea Party it’s completely hypocritical to then mine Obama’s comment, and say bus often enough, {Hannity just out right lied and said Obama said bus} that people think that’s what he said. It’s a false controversy they purposely created. I have no problem with real news and an intelligent conservative view on it, but this kind of bullshit is something that viewers need to reject from either side. You’d think as part of their fair and balanced approach they might have mentioned that Steele actually said “back of the bus “just a few months ago, but I guess being the number one 24 hour news channel they just forgot. Defend conservative views but please don’t defend this obvious bullshit tactic.

I agree, it is ridiculous to compare Olbermann’s show with the programming on Fox. On Fox, you hear different sides of an issue, something that has never taken place in the history of Countdown. Heck, Countdown rarely even deals in issues. Mostly rants, ridicules, insults, smears and pathetic jokes.

CosmosDan said:
Please be honest with yourself. I suppose it’s to be expected with our first black president that the news would exploit the race element that it contains, but after complaining constantly about false accusations of racism and finding racism where none exists, when it comes to the Tea Party it’s completely hypocritical to then mine Obama’s comment, and say bus often enough, {Hannity just out right lied and said Obama said bus} that people think that’s what he said. It’s a false controversy they purposely created. I have no problem with real news and an intelligent conservative view on it, but this kind of bullshit is something that viewers need to reject from either side. You’d think as part of their fair and balanced approach they might have mentioned that Steele actually said “back of the bus “just a few months ago, but I guess being the number one 24 hour news channel they just forgot. Defend conservative views but please don’t defend this obvious bullshit tactic.

“I can see Russia from my house.”

saralalaland said:
“FOX present both sides, and is fair and balanced.”

Jackie_Treehorn says:
“Oh jesus cmon. You seem semi-intelligent. Don’t try passing off that hilarious bullshit.”

She does? She passes off hilarious bullshit like this all the time. Sarahinlalaland think theblaze.com is a news site. Hell, she thinks that the FoxPAC Republican/tea Party Propaganda channel is a news outlet.

When sarainlalaland make a claim like this, it’s a sign of something less than “semi-intelligent.”

too bad for you that I am right, and provided a plethora of examples, none coming from the Blaze. As usual you can’t argue the point so you just make personal insults. did i ever say Blaze blog was a news site?

typical, boring, droll, liar….

sarainlalaland says:
“too bad for you that I am right, and provided a plethora of examples, none coming from the Blaze. As usual you can’t argue the point so you just make personal insults. did i ever say Blaze blog was a news site?”

You’re “right” alright, wayyy far right. A tea party reactionary deluded into thinking that Fox is “fair and balanced;” that’s how right you are. Nothing about FoxPAC is fair. Have you seen anyone fund raise for a Dem this season there Mrs. Lalaland? No? Of course not, and you won’t either.

You used TheBlaze the other day as some reference. I think, if I remember right, the Parker & Spitzer interview with some reactionary Muslim (btw, reactionary Muslims make most reactionary tea party people seems like children of the enlightenment by comparison). The clip ended with another, unrelated clip of Obama. Just reactionary, nasty, yellow propaganda that we’ve come to expect for the hero you follow, the rodeo clown Beck.

I love it when reactionaries like Mrs. Lalaland call me a liar. Prove it there Lalaland. How exactly did I lie? Come on, put your effort where your typing fingers are Lalaland. How did I lie?

F$%king tool!

It’s gratifying to see that KO understands that there’s no equivalency between Bend Over and Fair and Balanced……….

ChrisNH said:
Quote: “(Olbermann)…brought on Newsweek’s Jonathan Alter to debate the topic.” Wait, WHAT? Was the word ‘debate’ actually used in that sentence? I laughed so hard that milk came out my nose. And I didn’t even drink any. I never watch MSNBC, but I sure will today. Must-See TV!

I can’t resist watching MSNBC today either….the schadenfreude’s just too tempting!

GlennBeckReview said:
saralalaland said:“FOX present both sides, and is fair and balanced.” Jackie_Treehorn says:“Oh jesus cmon. You seem semi-intelligent. Don’t try passing off that hilarious bullshit.” She does? She passes off hilarious bullshit like this all the time. Sarahinlalaland think theblaze.com is a news site. Hell, she thinks that the FoxPAC Republican/tea Party Propaganda channel is a news outlet. When sarainlalaland make a claim like this, it’s a sign of something less than “semi-intelligent.”

Who do you get your news from?

Tony says:
“Who do you get your news from?”

All over. As much as I watch the Glenn Beck show, I virtually never get news from him. He’s too busy hating Woodrow Wilson to cover anything that’s new.

I use Politico.com, Boston Globe, Miami Herald, WaPo, NY Times, TruthOut, HuffPo, TownHall and a new source that Mediaite turned me onto, the National Journal. Oh, CNN and MSNBC. I also subscribe to Tom Harmann’s newsletter. That’s most of it. No, one more. Crooks and Liars.

I also subscribe to two media watchdogs: Media Matters on the left and Media Research Center on the right.

Why do you ask?

expend

GlennBeckReview said:
Prove it there Lalaland. How exactly did I lie? Come on, put your effort where your typing fingers are Lalaland. How did I lie?

F$%king tool!

Did I ever call the Blaze a news source? You are calling Huff Po a news source. How does HuffPo differ from Blaze? Crooks and Liars? MM? LOL! hahahahha please!

You lied. And are incapable of discussion without resorting to personal insults. If you disagree with something I say why don’t you ever try to refute it or discuss it? You don’t because you can’t – so you alway result in name calling.

That’s all your capable of. Cheap juvenile insults.

gawd, sorry for the typos. I am watching election coverage and X-Factor Italia, and not paying attention.

Don’t know why *expend* is there, and “That’s all you’re capable of”

sarainlalaland says:
“Did I ever call the Blaze a news source? You are calling Huff Po a news source. How does HuffPo differ from Blaze? Crooks and Liars? MM? LOL! hahahahha please!”

I understand that in your alternative world of far right media, like the sources you use to make references here, real media sources are just propaganda outlets. Right Lalaland? You conveniently left out (of context) that I use a wide range of sources, but that fits in with your sleazy, Beckian style of making your case. Fact is, the sources I cite deal with the facts. TheBlaze deals with gratuitous slander with facts sprinkled in to give them the air of legitimacy. Another way HuffPo differs from TheBlaze is in the sanity of those who comment. I’ve read the idiotic nonsense that passes for commentary there. Much of it makes the insane nonsense from notsofastorsmart and you seem like brilliant insights by comparison. Ditto, btw, for what get posted on GlennBeck.com. Do I need to “refudiate” more of your assertions? I can. It’s not hard you know.

sarainlalaland says:
“You lied. And are incapable of discussion without resorting to personal insults. If you disagree with something I say why don’t you ever try to refute it or discuss it? You don’t because you can’t – so you alway result in name calling.”

I lied about what Sara? I engage all the time here in discussion, but when I see someone like you writing things that adults don’t believe in, such as Fox being “fair and balanced,” then I have to call it like I see it: you’re SarainLaLaLand. When I see you post something that belongs in the factual world, then I will have an adult conversation with you. You have to earn that, and so far you have not (that I’ve seen).

So give me a straight answer (riiiight): what have I lied about? You keep spouting your baseless claim that I lied and you provide absolutely no bases for your claim.

Lalaland: what lie? I will stop the insult when you give me a reason to believe that you are engaging like an adult. Maybe you should stick with X-Factor. It’s more your speed.

So Huff Po is sane? Of course it is to you, GBR. You’re a far lefty. Ergo, anything said on Fox is a lie, anything coming from left wingers is true. Talk about biased.

sarainitaly said:
“I can see Russia from my house.”

But you can’t see bullshit coming from Fox?

…. in discussing the rally he made it clear that he will not tolerate his network being compared to Fox News.

How can they be compared? They are not even in the same league.

GlennBeckReview said:
I lied about what Sara?

how many times do i have to say it? you said i said/consider/believe Blaze is a news outlet. It is a blog, just like huffpo – they have commentary and they link to news stories. you are also ignoring the numerous sources that i link, and focusing on one or two links to videos from the Blaze. why don’t you stop attributing your manners to me.

sanity of huffpo commenters? are you f-in kidding me? huff po obamabots were the WORST out there. i was called a slut, racist and whore from day one, just for preferring Clinton over Obama. people left their in carloads, or were banned during the primary just for stating opposition to obama. my comments in support of hillary were banned ALL the time – and they were civil and sane. it happened all the time to hillary supporters, meanwhile obamabots would attack anyone who opposed obama, and managed to get a comment thru. i love the concept of huff po, but that site became a disgusting pit of bias and hate. i have checked it out a few times lately and it seems to be improving some, but do not lie to me about the *sanity* of the commenters.

you have some weird obsession with beck and spend so much time hating him that you can’t even see the truth when it is right in front of you.

“When I see you post something that belongs in the factual world, then I will have an adult conversation with you.” – personally i would be quite content if you would just ignore me all together.

I was engaging in an adult like manner, and you spewed this BS back:

GlennBeckReview says:
November 2, 2010 at 2:04 pm (Quote)
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saralalaland said:
“FOX present both sides, and is fair and balanced.”

Jackie_Treehorn says:
“Oh jesus cmon. You seem semi-intelligent. Don’t try passing off that hilarious bullshit.”

She does? She passes off hilarious bullshit like this all the time. Sarahinlalaland think theblaze.com is a news site. Hell, she thinks that the FoxPAC Republican/tea Party Propaganda channel is a news outlet.

When sarainlalaland make a claim like this, it’s a sign of something less than “semi-intelligent.”

how very adult of you. i believe i supported my statement, providing numerous examples – none being from Beck. so spare me your bullshit.

“writer” says:
“So Huff Po is sane?”

You’re a supporter of Glenn Beck. You have no awareness of what’s sane and what is not sane. You think HuffPo is not sane because your master has told you what to “think.”

Of course, you neglect that I also subscribe to TownHall magazine, a far right rag. You only want to look at one side, so get off your low pony and wake the hell up. (That’s just rhetorical flourish; I realize that you’re all but brain dead.)

GlennBeckReview said:
“I lied about what Sara?”

sarainlalaland says:
“how many times do i have to say it? you said i said/consider/believe Blaze is a news outlet. It is a blog,”

Beck doesn’t refer to his “news” (propaganda) website as a “blog.” I don’t believe I claimed that you referred to is as a news outlet. I just pointed out that you used it as a reference, a link, as if anything that comes from Glenn Beck has any merit or credibility. That’s why I challenged you, not because you wrote that it was “news,” but because you referenced it as it TheBlaze has any credibility. It does not. Nothing associated with Glenn Beck has credibility. That’s what I challenged, not that you claimed it was news. Correct me (by quoting me) if I remember that wrong.

Sarainlalaland also claimed,
“you have some weird obsession with beck and spend so much time hating him that you can’t even see the truth when it is right in front of you.”

I could have chosen another liar: Limbaugh, Malkin, the bat-shit insane Coulter, but Beck is sleazier and more talented than those other liars. Sara, I’m merely one voice in a growing chorus of people calling Beck out as a liar. Your defense of this deceitful and hypocritical charlatan makes you the one who “can’t see the truth.”

Sarainlalaland wrote,
“i believe i supported my statement, providing numerous examples”

Examples of Fox being fair and balanced? Let me save some time here and quote someone else taking issue with your bizarre notion:

The Real Royal King says:

“I’ll spare my fellow readers and commentators a repaste of your gassy emission but I will say that I understand why a whiny and petulant sort of person would be drawn to FOX “News”. It tends to feed those pathologies which are acted out in the manner I just described by always affirming the negative, the cynical and by never challenging with information and ideas.”

CNN doesn’t give the conservative view? Maybe, what you mean is that CNN doesn’t give the far right, reactionary view. They routinely have a Dem and a Republican on to discuss issues.

Sara, you’re way out there. That’s why you “think” (parrot other’s talking points) the way you do. You don’t know the difference between conservative and reactionary or news and propaganda. When you get that straight, and prove that you understand the difference, then I’ll cut you some slack.

Sarah in La La Land: your links are all to one political season, the 2008 primaries. MSNBC, and Matthews in particular, was rooting for Obama, so Clinton pointed out that Fox had more even coverage of the Democratic primary than MSNBC. Gov. Rendell was talking about the same thing there, specifically to that one campaign. By the way, I still have disdain for Mathews for his sexist treatment of Mrs. Clinton during that campaign. I can’t stand him really. Or Ed Schultz.

You demonstrate selective perception: you see what you want to see and extrapolate what was said by Clinton, who was pissed at Matthews for good reason, and apply that generally to the networks which is anything but fair and balanced between the Dems and the Republicans.

That little trick of yours suggests, yes, that you’re not as sharp as you seem to think you are.

“FOX actually has viewers and FOX present both sides, and is fair and balanced.”
Okay, seriously, now say it again without laughing….

FOX: Take (or make) rumors, run with it, say it over and over on air as if it’s fact, and then imply it is true without making the full statement thereby presenting unfounded rumors as fact and / or just making crap up when forced to, usually to impugn a left leaning politician or pundit with little to no basis.

MSNBC: Take facts of the day in politics, report what happened, call out the important things like misleading statements or outright lies that were said by those politicians / pundits and explain exactly how it was spun and why and to what goal by the radical right.

MSNBC at least can back up their reporting with facts behind all that opinionated commentary. FOX can only do air quotes and say “someone said…” If you really would like to see MSNBC disappear, all you have to do is insist the FOX NEWS stop making things up to fit their agenda. It’s just that easy.