nice misleading headline josh

Yes it is. And this speech had better not go long and interrupt the Packers kickoff.

THIS JUST IN  !!  :  

King Obama has announced that his speech Thursday will not be until about 8:30 pm .

Thursdays evenings he has his regular pedicure and arugula facial and he is not going to cancel on Andre and have to pay a cancellation fee . The football crowd will just have to wait .

ALSO JUST IN !! :

Instead of another boring speech on jobs , King Obama has a new plan .

He will read aloud from the want ads every week in front of the assembled Congress .

For example , Obama will announce that a new slot has just opened up in New Mexico for a State Trooper …er…a new position … opportunity .

All that bluster about ‘pitchforks’ and ‘bitter clingers’ and ‘I won’ and ‘Sit in the back’ and ‘millionaires and billionaires’ has caught up to gray-haired OBAMO. People are swinging back at this ‘historical and tranformative’ pinata, and I quite like it!!

We don’t need or want more pointless speeches. We want’ jobs! Private sector jobs!

I know Mr. Waterloo’s real nefarious intention but what he says here is not untrue. put something up on the web site mr. president or send them something in writing. enough with these speeches. even your staunchest supporters are sick of them.. especially when they’re laden with whining and begging for compromise, that won’t happen, you better have a plan-B

The only people left interested in what this clown has to say are the entitlement, and free loading illegal alien parasites scumbags who are propping this Judas up!! The working, taxpaying citizens have had their fill of this socialist piece of crap!!  

How right you are, cjdohio1! 

My kingdom for an honorable journalist, instead of the current crop of journ0lists.

“I’m, frankly, very tired of speeches. I don’t want to be disrespectful
to the president, but what I want to see is something in writing and
what the Congressional Budget Office tells us it’s going to cost so that
we can not only read it ourselves, but the American people can read it.
Speeches, we’ve found, are not very similar to the actual legislation.”

One of the rare occasions where I have to say, I agree with Sen. DeMint.

Yeah, lets get rid of all those police,fireman,teachers, safety/food inpectors and all those other useless public servents.

As his staunch supporter Maureen Dowd so eloquently stated “he has an acquired elitism”. lol

I finally agree with her on something!

does every statement have to be dumbed down for you to understand?

That a pretty dumb idea voltman. Why would we want to do a stupid thing like that?

Is that how you read the above comment??? Are you against private sector jobs??? Does more private sector jobs mean no police, fireman, etc… etc…???

BTW… I thought you hated cops? I’ve seen a few posts of yours that would suggest you DO hate cops. So why do you all of a sudden support them now???

You do realize public sector jobs COST tax dollars.. right. Private sector jobs GENERATE tax revenue… you knew that right? So with less tax dollars and bad economy you want to ADD to the tax burden??? You don’t know much about basic economics, do you?

I too, am sick sick sick of Obama obfuscation via his noxious vocal chords. The man is an unmitigated serial agitator and liar with an abysmal record of substance.

Depends who is reading my post. Was is simple enough for you?

 It’s sarcasim

Then it was bad sarcasm……..

And yes it is spelled “sarcasm”…. not “sarcasim”.

I never said I hated cops. Just a lot of them seem to be on a power trip.(not all).Why don,t we privatize these jobs to Blackwater.

I never said I hated cops. Just a lot of them seem to be on a power trip.(not all).Why don,t we privatize these jobs to Blackwater.

SENATOR JIM DeMINT,
I agree with you completely about Obama and his forthcoming speech.  Unlike you, I do not hesitate to be disrespectful to Obama.  He is NOT an honorable President.  He has an agenda to collapse the economy of the United States, along with George Soros, and he needs to be exposed.  If Obama would like to submit his proposal on jobs to the Congressional Budget Office to be scored, I would read it.   As an American citizen, I am not interested in any of his flowery, insincere, meaningless speeches.  Obama has lost all of his credibility.
Senator DeMint, thank you for your intelligent comments.
Delores Smith
Delores109@cox.net  

Thanks for pointing my misspelling.Are you part of RON Paul’s Grammar police?

DeMint should have answered her question truthfully and said….”I don’t care what he proposes we republicans are not going to support any idea or jobs plan he has whether we think it will work or not.  We want him to fail and for the economy and unemployment to get even worse so we can take back power.  If Americans suffer and lose their homes, so be it, we see it as collateral damage in the war we have waged to get this Muslim Kenyan out of our White House.”

Hmmmm. So you’re a career criminal?

And the gNOpig debate is going to deliver what?

You gNOpigs had 10 YEARS, 10 fugging YEARS OF TAX CUTS for the “job creators”

Where are them jobs, you little gNOpiggies?

“I’m not interested in Obama’s speech”.  Now the Party of NO takes it to a whole new level and says “NO” even before hearing what he has to say.  LMAO.  I’m pretty sure Mr. Obama’s speeches are too much for the intellectually short-changed DeMint to comprehend, so he’d rather just not listen to it.

It would be pretty funny if a lot of Congressmen/women brought a newspaper with them and read it during the speech.

Funny. Inappropriate. Yet fitting.

They went right here, Karen.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/article.aspx?subjectid=49&articleid=20110901_222_E1_CUTLIN589741

Duh! But it was as tatboy put it bad sarcasm because it was based on deliberate misconception and attempted deflection. Poorly done and making you look like the 12 in your avatar represents your age either intellectually or in reality. Further you felt the need to respond to the obvious not even comprehending that my response was also sarcasm.

Delores

The box you are entering text into is not… I repeat not the space used to compose an email using your Cox Communication webmail service.

Did you just say you want THE GUBBIMINT TO CREATE PRIVATE SECTOR JOBS?

That is what you gNOpigs bit ch about every second. You want the GUBBIMINT out of your way, yet you want the same GUBBIMINT to CREATE JUBS!

Intellectually you must be so Superior to me that you make fun on someones appearance

He is not going to present any ideas, the WH is pretty much already telling us that.  He is getting up in front of ajoint session of congress (which was not a minor scheduling dispute one day as is the MSM would like fols to believe) to point the finger of blame on everyone but himself.  he does not know how to lead and he won’t present any new ideas, itwill be the same old same old BS and the media will ooooh and aaaaaah, faint, bat their eyelashes, gush and claim he is god-like.  All for nothing.

What a disgraceful state for the us media.

No, while the government can’t directly create private sector jobs, Yes, they can get out of the way of the private sector creation of jobs. You hit the nail right on the head even if by accident. If Obama comes up with a plan to get the government out of the way of the private sector then I would have to change my mind about him and his speeches.

What part of NO don’t you understand? No to, NO I don’t want to listen to anymore of Obimbo’s nonsense. Is that throwing you. Seems quite clear and concise to me.

Stand proud, Jim.  Ewe Rat-Wingers keep us in the 11th Century.

And we don’t give a shit about you either.

Hey Delores! Are you ready for some FOOTBAAAAAAAAAAL???

Don’t worry about missing his speech. If you’ve heard one campaign speech, you’ve heard them all! Don’t think he’ll be submitting a proposal to the CBO–they can’t score a speech!

Hey Delores! Are you ready for some FOOTBAAAAAAAAAAL???

Don’t worry about missing his speech. If you’ve heard one campaign speech, you’ve heard them all! Don’t think he’ll be submitting a proposal to the CBO–they can’t score a speech!

What we desperately need is real growth in the private sector first. Let’s get rid of a bunch of useless bureaucrats and hire those fire fighters, police and teachers. I would rather see a lot of the teachers move to charter schools.

it’s sarcasim?  Perhaps you should learn to spell it then if you claim to practice it.  

Your arguments are rather elementary volt – perhaps a voltage adjustment is in order.  

what was the latest little “scoop”, something about part of his speech about jobs on Thursday and the next part (will obviously depend on badly he gets panned on the first part) later. lol

Oh my goodness, I don’t envy this man’s position at the moment.  When you are surrounded by yes men and you don’t have any ideas yourself – it’s not looking so good.

Temper, temper, Crap, Crap.

To Caconservative, I am interested in hearing the President’s speech and I am NOT the type of person you describe. I have worked all my life, raised four kids who also work hard, have never taken welfare and as a retired widow, support myself on the Social Security I earned in the working world (not my husband’s, my own) for over 40 years. Would be using the IRA from the 401K I saved myself that I had in retirement, until the stock market decimated it so I have saved the rest for my funeral expenses.  Did not retire until I was 77, so don’t lump all people who want to hear this speech in your jaded view of who we are.  You are insulting and sound like all Republicans who use insults to attempt to prove your point. 

I don’t know – ask the piggies you are so fond of.  

p.s. might help if you grew up a bit there kid.  Silly statements don’t raise your standing in here – they just make you look really silly.

Name a country that has a entire workforce in the private sector? We could do this but we would have to change our country’s name to: The United Corpartions of America. True Capitalism!

CRACKER, JUST LIKE DEMINT AND THE BUTTWIPE FROM ILLINOIS, WALSH

DUMBASS CRACKER I HAVE NO RESPECT FOR YOU PUTRID PEOPLE

The Grammer police are like Big Brother. They are everywhere.

Of COURSE you are not interested in hearing about creating Jobs, DeMint——-If Jobs were created under Obama—WHAT would the Party of NO, the Party of obstruction have to run on???????      You keep your grimmy little fingers crossed—we may go into a Depression from what you boys caused !!!!

I just have to ask, and I know that it is in my best interest not to ask, but I still must.  How exactly is Obama trying to collapse the economy?  And what does he get out of collapsing it?  That’s the thing I don’t get from the conspiracy theories.  After all, the ones who do look to benefit from the collapse of the economy is the Republicans, since they get the presidency if that happens and they can start collapsing those social programs they want to.  (I’m not saying that the Republicans are doing that, but just showing that the motive doesn’t fit with Obama right now.)  That’s the thing, have you asked why at all?    Also, if he’s trying to collapse the economy, he must have been really pissed at his staff when we came out of the recession.  And when the auto stimulus plan succeeded.  Betcha heads rolled that day.

The misinform people here show their knowledge by
speaking of what you have not thoroughly research. Let’s start with the Health
and Reform Act that you call Obama care, they were saying repeal and replace,
now it is just repeal. Do you want to get rid of the loop holes for the
seniors, precondition option, cap limit, college students being on their
parents insurance, insurance companies paying less for health care than
advertising and executive salaries.

 How many of
you talking hoodwinks has bother to check on the profits of the insurance
companies, pharmaceutical, and medical groups that
has increase since the year 2000? We hear nothing about the insurance companies, pharmacies,
drug companies that are the main reason for rising cost of Medicare
and Medicaid that everyone pays, where is the replaced.

Where are the jobs that the republicans congress won
on in the 2000 election, where are the jobs bills to help get the country out
of a recession? Boehner and McConnell are more concern with the Norquist
pledge, cutting government and state jobs during a recession, cutting taxes for
the super rich and just plain bitching about everything that Bush screw up that
was not fixed yesterday. They say the stimulus plan was a failure, what about
Texas governor Perry’s 17 Billion he took to balance his state budget or Bachmann’s
money they receive while bitching all the time about it.

 We are not
losing 100,000 jobs a month as when he took office, that has turn around but
not fast enough for you so he is a loser, why don’t you get the bitching
republicans to help with the solution and please don’t mention the Ryan plan
that ask the future seniors for $5000 more a year which they don’t have to pay
for Medicare and Medicaid.

BobbyMaGee,
I don’t want the CBO to score Obama’s speech.  I want Obama to go play golf or basketball.  He needs to submit a proposal IN WRITING to the Congressional Budget Office for scoring.  I can guess the score.
As for football, I’ll be watching the following day.
Delores Smith
Delores109@cox.net

Greg,
Will you explain this further to me?
Delores Smith
Delores109@cox.net

You’re responding to the wrong post. I didn’t say anything about “an entire workforce in the private sector”. I doubt that anyone did.

Not only inappropriate, but just like Senator DeMint’s outrageous, disrespectful yelling out last year – completely disrespectful.  And that is the problem with Republicans. They expected respect for BUSH, but they can’t bring themselves to ever respect a democrat president.  They didn’t respect Bill Clinton who did more for this damn country than any recent Republican president has done.  In fact, since Reagan they have done nothing but show their GREED and take this country into debt.  They can’t even accept responsibility for doing that when it is clear who took our country into this mess.  Accept fricking responsibility for your actions!  Do you really think the average American has amnesia and having gone through first the SAVIINGS & LOAN BAILOUT, then the WALLSTREET BAILOUT that the next republican administration would be any different????

SHOW RESPECT., 

I’m sure you also paid lots attention to Obama’s previous two job plan speeches as well.

Dec. 2008; Obama reveals job-creation plan-
 http://articles.cnn.com/2008-11-22/politics/obama.economy_1_job-creation-economic-recovery-plan-jobs-next-year?_s=PM:POLITICS
Jan. 2010; Obama sets off to sell job-creation plan
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jan/28/obama-job-tour-state-union
I’m also sure you’ll be equally interested in Obama’s NEXT ”jobs” speech, which will probably be in late Oct. 2012, as an October Surprise.

It’s funny that you put down and insult only the ones who disagree with you on your stance. Instead of contributing to the conversation in such a way to make a valid point. I only give people crap that dish it out to me first. Maybe it’s crude at times but it does get your attention otherwise you would not reply.

I suppose you’re really proud of Schakowski, and Durbin. The socialist and the consummate career politician. Walsh is a pretty decent guy.

Yes you are right. You did not say anything about “an entire workforce in the private sector”.  But you did say:”Let’s get rid of a bunch of useless bureaucrats and hire those fire fighters, police and teachers.” What public sector jobs would you support? Just wondering?

THAT Delores, is the problem we have here.  Too many disrespectful, UN-AMERICANS, UNPATRIOTIC people like you who should move to Texas and secede from the union.  That way, you can shoot each other up with easy drugs and guns, drink the polluted water and die young without any healthcare like a REAL Texan should.

People who do not believe the TEA/GOP party-types like DeMint are racist and bigoted have their heads buried in the FOX-hole. America has had Social programs in place to assist people with limited income, indigents and others. The extreme element of TEA party wants to do away with social programs! People like DeMint, Perry, Bachmann and others have cloaked themselves with the GOP coating while moving into local, state and national politics to effectively kill these programs. It is up to thinking Americans to protect our hard won freedoms. Here’s what we need to know – “This economic downturn obviously began before President Obama took office, and its severity is rooted in the financial crisis of 2008 and in Bush administration policies. But over four years, presidents come to own the economy and, fairly or not, are expected to take responsibility for it.” – This does not compute in any way as the Congress controls laws, taxes, finances and the economy. The president is the Executive branch and has no real control of the monies in any way or laws and cannot hire us out of this economy! The 111th Congress passed legislation that has been attacked by the current 112th Congress which has garnered the title of “do nothing-inhibit the president” Congress. The 112th Congress’ entire concentration is to stymie the president and kill every bill passed by the last Congress. This Congress has been taken over by the confrontational TEA party, rendering the GOP defunct and useless even though they keep the title of GOP when they run for office! This extreme tangent has effected local politics and state political policies and now the national level! As Commander-in-Chief of the armed services he has moved to shut down the war started by Bush in Iraq and get out of Afghanistan. He said he would do this. This president has been effective as Commander-in-Chief, but has been totally hindered by the 112th Congress. The president authorized the killing of Osama Bin Ladin, moving out Moammar Khaddafy, and Atiyah abd al-Rahman is dead! This Economy is not the president’s legacy, but the 112th Congress’ legacy!

That’s okay, just shows how uneducated these Republican bafoons are.,

Tell me where you get most of YOUR information from. If only I was as informed as you are, I wouldn’t be entertaining such “research” as this:

* Under Obama’s stewardship, we have lost 2.2 million jobs (and 900,000 full-time jobs in the last four months alone). He is now on track to have the worst jobs record of any president in the modern era.

* The unemployment rate stands at 9.1 percent v. 7.8 percent the month Obama took office.

* The youth employment rate is at the lowest level since records were first kept in 1948.

* The share of the eligible population holding a job has declined to the lowest level since the early 1980s.

* The housing crisis is worse than in the Great Depression. (Home values are worth roughly one-third less than they were five years ago.)

* The rate of economic growth under Obama has been only slightly higher than the 1930s, the decade of the Great Depression. 

* Fiscal year 2011 will mark the third straight year with deficits in excess of $1 trillion. Prior to the Obama presidency, we had never experienced a deficit in excess of $1 trillion.

* During the Obama presidency, America has increased its debt by $4 trillion.

* America saw its credit rating downgraded for the first time in history under the Obama presidency.

* Consumer confidence has plunged to the lowest level since the Carter presidency.

* The number of people in the U.S. who are in poverty is on track for a record increase on President Obama’s watch, with the ranks of working-age poor approaching 1960s levels that led to the national war on poverty.

* A record number of Americans now rely on the federal government’s food stamps program. More than 44.5 million Americans received Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) benefits, a 12 percent increase from one year ago.

* August 2011 marked the 1st time there were zero jobs added since 1945

“SOCIALIST” you say?  What do you call the Prescription Drug Plan that BUSH & FRIENDS passed on BORROWED money?  That means that this president has to continue borrowing money to pay for the fricking “SOCIALIST” program.

Maybe you should clarify just what kind of program that is if it isn’t “SOCIALIST”.

Since Obama’s previous jobs plans have worked so well for this country so far, let’s all join in and allow more of the same from this idiot president. GTFOH!!

No! No! No!

Well, you better talk to the Fricking Republlican party, because those tax cuts have been in place for 10 long years and we still haven’t seen the JOBS yet – in the US at least.

EVERY REPUBLICAN IN CONGRESS SHOULD BOYCOTT THIS RE-ELECTION CAMPAIGN SPEECH BY OBOZO.

NO-PLAN OBOZO’s jobs proposal (after the VACATIONER-in-CHIEF returns from his latest luxury vacation on the Vineyard) will be nothing more than a joke and a sham. It will have one goal – to be so ridiculously bad, useless and wasteful that the responsible members of Congress will have no choice but to reject it. Then NO-PLAN OBOZO will have achieved his REAL goal with this sham proposal – use it to falsely claim that he “would have saved or created millions more jobs if only Congress had accepted his (ridiculous, wasteful, phony) proposal.”  And the d-cRAT socialist stooges in the socialist media will all chime in and agree (naturally).

That could happen anyway, because the Republican Supreme Court decided that CORPORATIONS can decide now who our next president will be. I’m sure RIck Perry would be happy to change the name of the country – if you will just make a $10 million donation to his forthcoming presidential campaign.

Yes, I think the Republicans want to get rid of FEMA because ‘by golly they can care for themselves in time of disaster’ but notice that Rick Perry was on the phone right away asking for firefighters for Texas.  If a hurricane hits Houston, you can bet your boots that 24 hours before the event Perry would have it designated a natural disaster and request FEMA assistance.

Blackwater?  Oh, Cheney didn’t make enough off Iraq and Afghanistan so now he wants more?

HIS AN IGNORAMUS, WHO IS SHOWING HIS TRUE COLORS, AS A BIGOT.

Willard Romney: “Corporation are people too” ….doncha know?

Fact: You are a loser and so is the one term wonder boy!

Could you provide a 10 word, or less, summary? I lost interest after the word “racist”.

Fact: Obama can swing at jobs all day and all night and he will never hit it once!

Still waiting for your answer on what public sector jobs you would support?

Fact: Thank God 2012 is coming and we all get rid of this idiot!

Arthur….You are a racist.
That’s all folks!!

Snore,……snore,………..snore,……….

Lumberjack?

Gorgegirl,
Have you always had a problem?  Try doing some research on Obama and George Soros, if you can tolerate facts.
Delores Smith
Delores109@cox.net

Fact: Well when the tax cuts where happening we were at 5% unemployement then the anoited one got elected and it’s been stuck on stupid at nearly 10% ever sense so tax tax tax are way into a job dumb shit!

Were you just born yesterday?

Cloward and Piven. Cloward and Piven. They wrote about it in a lefty book, a while back. They described how and why.

DeMint has a lot of company.
I have more important things to do….like washing my hair.
We have international problems and the “president” plays golf.
We have serious economic problems and he gives us a speech (pep talk).
He has never said anything of value….and he never will.
He gives us teleprompter “standard form speeches”
Blah…blah…blah….yadda….yadda….yadda….ditto…..ditto…..ditto….etc…etc…etc.

Regardless of when it began, Obama proceeded to make things much worse. The voters in the last election wanted to change congress and stop Obama’s policies from further wrecking this country. Not bigotry. Not racism. Just different ideologies and policy approach. Libs can’t accept the fact that someone would dare disagree with their ideology and policy, thus resort to calling those who do a racist or a bigot.

The Congress, under Bush’s term (beginning 2006) started this economic decline and was led by Democrats owning the House and the Senate.

BTW, are there any racists or bigots in the Democratic Party?

Only if misselling is a crime.

12voltman: Don’t hold your breath. I realize it would be an excise in futility and we’ve taken up too much space with this nonsense. The answers should be obvious to most everyone.

And we owe the ZERO jobs this past month to the racist Tea Party group and Grover Norquist.  He must be the new GOD of the Republican Party.  They take allegiance to him instead of to the United States of America.
Your entire list is incorrect with one exception.  The 7.8% unemployed when Obama took over didn’t include the last 1.5 million jobs lost by BUSH.

The racist rednecks are totally out of control. The military needs to start taking them out for treason.

It is so very sad how pathetic liberal losers get a Chris Matthew’s tingle up their leg simply by Obama’s speeches, while  ( never actually doing ) something ass-hurtive. 

Afterwards they all high five one another and talk about what an adult ( well, big boy ) Barack is…….because he told them he is. 

Talk, before Obama used to be cheap, or so I’ve heard. Now each word of his virtual campaigning costs America about one billion per……and with nothing, actually less and less to show for it.

Face it libs, he’s really gotta go……

It’s the Saint Reagan school of: “trickle down economics”. This is when this rich piss on the rest of us.

Maybe I should invest in Brown & Root ?

Obama can only suggest programs that will create jobs in the private sector.  He can’t pass the legislation – that is up to congress to do and of course, the republicans don’t want any jobs created because that might mean that the president will look good and get a second term.  No, the Republicans could give a shit about you, me or whether we have a job.  In fact, the president could take a page from the republicans book of non-ideas (they rarely have any that aren’t just tax cuts for the rich) and the republicans would say “NO’ – even if they were originally supported by them.
they are just hateful hypocrites and if they want war, I think there are enough of us getting our glocks and magazines together that we will win in the end – just like we did against the south years ago.

You make me insanely horny.

“My” list is not incorrect, madam. Good thing I don’t need your “genius” to factcheck for me. Let’s just take the last item I listed, and the most recent: I say “August 2011 marked the 1st time there were zero net jobs added since 1945″

CBS News reported for Aug 2011 ”It’s the first time since February 1945 that the government has reported a net job change of zero. ”

Source – Refer to 3rd paragraph:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/09/02/national/main20100884.shtml

Another CBS News report: “National debt has increased $4 trillion under Obama”
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20095704-503544.html

I won’t waste any more of my time with you here.

Man! These senators and congress people get up there in Washington and froget al about who sent them there which is hypocritical. They make all of these promises, just to get elected. Nothing personal Mr. DeMint, but although YOU may not “be interested” in  President Obama’s speech (which borders “silliness”), the people who elected you to go to Washington to represent THEM just may want YOU to be there! Now before you start loud mouthing saying that “the people whom I represent don’t want me to respect the president by being present when he delivers his speech”, maybe you should try “thinking” just a little bit. You sir, do NOT KNOW how all of the people that you represent think. Probably not even how the MAJORITY of them think. And you claim to be a US senator? How sad.

The Party of “YES” got us into this MESS!

I’m also sure you supported Obama’s previous jobs plans in 2008 and 2010, as well.

so, keep LYAO, skippy.

and who says Libs don’t have class…

You are NotaPoliticalComic,
Let me help you. 
1.  Try reading the “Cloward-Piven” strategy to learn what George Soros and Obama are doing.  Cloward is deceased, so you will not be able to question him.  However, Frances Fox Piven is alive and recently called for a Revolution.
2.  The benefit that Soros and Obama will achieve is to complete their agenda…over my dead body. 
3.  Have you observed the Mideast and Northern Africa lately?  Obama gave a speech in Cairo.  He invited Muslim Brotherhood, and they attended.  The goal is to replace the governments in those areas with MB.  One U.N. official stated on TV that 30% of the protesters in Egypt were MB.  Obama, who has no right to do so, is calling for leaders of sovereign nations to step down, and he has frozen the assets of these sovereign nations. 
4.  George Soros & Obama are seeking a New World Order, which I call a New World Disorder. 
5.  Obama was a Palestinean Activist is Chicago.  He spoke at most of their meetings, and he is quoted by a Palestinean friend as being Anti-Israel.  This explains why Obama ordered Israel back to the 1967 borders.
6.  Soros, Obama, their czars, and radicals want to destroy the United States.  They are Marxists.
Delores Smith
Delores109@cox.net  

DeMint started the recession.

Seems like Boehner and McConnell has other things to do also other than create job, maybe they are washing their hands from their dirty deeds.

I got dizzy trying to read it. 

Ok.  I know.  I didn’t listen.  A few weeks ago I got new glasses.  He said I needed to go (don’t like this term for more than one reason) ‘progressive’ (I guess you could say the term means ‘things going to sh*t (even vision)).

I knew they were much more expensive, so I said ‘do I REALLY need to’.  He said I was borderline, but I should.  My wife had the next appointment with him, and he told her “he’s going to be back in here six months from now wishing he had the progressive lenses”.

Yes, when the Bush tax cuts were enacted, unemployment stood at approx 5% (it was around 4% when Clinton left office), and when Bush left office, it was over 8.%, so how does that support your argument that lower taxes = higher employment? In fact under Obama, the Bush tax cuts are STILL in effect even for the wealthy thanks to the GOP congress, and unemployment has continued to rise. The fact is, corporations are sitting on an unprecedented pile of dough and are simply not hiring, domestically at least, and no amount of corporate tax restructuring will make it more cost effective to hire American. With cost of living differentials, foreign workers will work for much less $$.

Sure, if you consider a deadbeat dad a “pretty decent guy”.

Don’t worry Volt Man, ‘m_mayhem’ obviously understands your posts. They are simple enough for him.

Rev. Al Sharkton: “Sarcasim We Much!”

hell yeah i hate you crackers right now

i’m no lib i dislike both parties, but i dislike bigots even more.

What has Sen. DeMint done to help get people back to work?

You probably have no Idea how hilarious that is.

That pretty much sums up Republicans right there.

Obama could propose resurrecting Ronald Reagan and making him eternal president and the Republicans would still find some reason to oppose him.

Why does the right insist on everything being privatized? Have you people noticed how f-ed up the private prison industry is? Why would you want to privatize law enforcement and have it subject to the same types of problems?

Why do you make comments like this about the President’s Job speech. Everyone knows the GOP has won the 2012 election. Fox News and the Tea  Party cacus in the House have made their case that President Obama is not the President to lead this country in efforts to regain Jobs, education, international affairs, morals, gun control, abortion rights, gun rights, Gop controlled districts in every state, killing unions, lower corporate tax rates, flat taxes for the country, etc….  You have won. I for one think the country will revert back to the 1950′s and as a black person I will not longer have rights,. but, you win. The battle is over and president Rick Perry will be elected in 2012.

Delores , you’ve been completely hoodwinked by a conspiracy theory every bit as loony as alien astronauts and fake moon landings. Beck and Co. Have taken a fringe thought experiment article from the 60′s and woven into a brilliant tapestry of bullshit. Take a moment and really ask yourself if any of this paranoid delusion makes sense. Here’s a start: http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/03/26-3

LOL Pretty funny!

Not according to Mr Demint, at least if you live in his district. He told Candy Crowley on CNN this morning that the workers in his state would rather ive on unemployment and food stamps than go back to work. He said employers he talked to told him workers are refusing to come back to work until the unemplyment runs out.

The Rats Are Jumping Ship: Maureen O’Dowd asks if Obama “One and Done”. Saying:”The leader who was once a luminescent, inspirational force is now just a guy in a really bad spot.”"His Republican rivals… using the same line of attack Hillary used in 2008: Enough with the big speeches! What about some action?”"Obama miscalculated in 2009 when Democrats had total control of Congress…”"Obama’s re-election chances depend on painting the Republicans as disrespectful.”"…he lacks the common touch. He has an acquired elitism.”"If the languid Obama had not done his usual irritating fourth-quarter play, if he had presented a jobs plan a year ago and fought for it, he wouldn’t have needed to elevate the setting”"The president is using the power of the incumbency and a sacred occasion for a political speech.”"Obama is still suffering from the Speech Illusion, the idea that he can come down from the mountain, read from a Teleprompter, cast a magic spell with his words and climb back up the mountain, while we scurry around and do what he proclaimed.”"The days of spinning illusions in a Greek temple in a football stadium are done. The One is dancing on the edge of one term.”"Maybe Obama was not even the person he was waiting for.”Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/04/opinion/dowd-one-and-done.html?_r=1　..and the people said “Amen”.

I am interested in what Obama has to say. I am not interested in hearing or watching him say it. His antics, facial expressions, hand gestulations, are more than predictable. I too want to see an independent source score his projections.

Gunge
Have you read the Cloward-Piven strategy?  Is Gunge your real name…or does it come from one of your common dreams?  Gunge, you should believe whatever you choose…as should I…based on facts.  It is difficult to insult me.  You are going to have to work a lot harder.  Thank you for your comments.
Delores Smith
Delores109@cox.net

That’s because I understand sarcasm when I see it and know these are the people republicans are attacking with their union busting and tax the poor and middle class out of existence policies, while demanding even more tax cuts for corporations and the billionaires shipping our jobs overseas. 

News of the World,
Your spelling is incorrect.  It is the “Party of Know”.
Delores Smith
Delores109@cox.net

The President wants to collapse the economy of the united states?  See children this is how Glen Beck rots the brain from the inside out.

Rotate index finger in a twirling motion next to the head and repeat the phrase coo…coo..coo…coo.

The tax cuts are still happening dumbass and have never gone anywhere, but the jobs sure have gotten the hell out of Dodge while corporations have racked up record profits.

Well, THE most obstructionist congress in history against proves themselves to be the childish disrespectful pigs that they are (and are most commenters here who want to apologize for Teabaggers’ childish behavior.)

Then, of course, let’s get to the topic of Republican HYPOCRISY: “Where are the jobs?Where are the jobs? we haven’t seen a plan . Waaaaaaaah.”

a) Laws start IN CONGRESS! But of course Mitch McConnell made it clear that his goal was NOT to create jobs, but to unseat our current President.  Willing to do serious economic damage to this country to “take back” the White House — and push us back further into the Middle Ages. Sounds pretty treasonous to  me — and to anyone with half a brain.  Congress has introduced over 900 bills that affect women’s right, NOT ONE JOBS BILL!

b) Now that the President has announced the plan, members of Congress think it’s acceptable to say “they don’t care what he has to say”?

Hypocrisy, Disrespect, Racism 

No, he has it right — the Party of NO, Repugnicans, Obstructionists, whatever you want to call it. I prefer to call it childless, disrespectful, arrogant, and flat out racist. No other reason for the disrespect being shown our President.  I hope your children show you as much respect as you’ve shown OUR president.  BTW, maybe you missed all the polls where a MAJORITY (that’s over 50%) still think the economy is BUSH’s FAULT.  Republicans broke it, and now is telling everyone else to not only fix it, but is withholding pieces.  UnAmerican. Whine all you want, but that’s what it is. Wishing that our country FAILS to further your own political games is UNPATRIOTIC TO THE CORE!  If i were you I’d take your email address off, unless of  course, you’re trying to attract a man, what with your snappy “comeback” and the name delores.

DISRESPECTFUL AND UNAMERICAN.

Let’s start with that deadbeat dad Joe Walsh … Sign the petition to DUMPJOEWALSH – 100 names in only a day ..not bad – http://tinyurl.com/3pohzdf

“Could you provide a 10 word, or less, summary? I lost interest after the word “racist”.” translation:

I’m an ignorant teabagger that gets confused when there are too many long (over 5 letters) words.  Please dumb it down for me. 

“Explain it as you would to a child.”…………Sarris, Galaxy Quest

well, if you really dislike “bigots”, then you might as well cut and be ready to paste your same words all day long– these Libs will keep you busy!

odd that you say YOU dislike both parties, yet the definition of a bigot is “A prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his own”…. I’m just sayin’

Oh, What a Drama Queen!!

Name one right that you would lose if the Republicans win back the Senate and Presidency. 
Yea, that’s what I thought.

DeMint is just another pissed off Teabagger that is upset South Carolina lost the Civil War.  

Cut, Cap and Balance was a jobs bill….you friggin’ moron.

 Obama had total control of Congress for 2 years and did NOTHING about jobs (except LOSE them).
He still hasn’t……..and neither have the Democrats.

Try doing a little research….or even watch something other than MSNBC and you “may” learn.
I realize that is a huge undertaking for a libtard.

Just luck, Packers suck

I have a copy of the speech already. In fact ! everyone has a copy already 100 times over.
Whatever new he offers theirs always an expiration date attached.

For example , Bohner will announce that a new slot has just opened up in New Mexico for a State Trooper …er…a new position … opportunity .

Good. Then go listen to one of those nuts standing on a wooden crate in his Revolutionary War uniform, bugle and musket shouting non-sense to all of his sheep.

“I don’t want to disrespect the President but…” What a load of crap to begin with. If these racist teabagging assholes didn’t want to disrespect our President THEN THEY WOULDN’T. 

Frankly,
I’m tired. I don’t want to be disrespectful to Boehner and the Congress I voted
for, however, Boehner promised Jobs were #1 when we voted in a Republican
Congress. I know it’s fun to bash Obama, but what has John Boehner and Congress
done to create jobs? Give me one example. I would appreciate an answer.

You go m_mayhem.   I can’t wait for 2008!!

Yeah, that is why they are the Super Bowl Champs and have the most Conference championships. Because they suck.

Do I hear a little envy from a Detroit or Chicago fan?

How bout getting off your sorry arse and create your own job. You know, invest YOUR time, YOUR money, YOUR ideas, YOUR sweat, YOUR risk, YOUR life to creating something instead of WHINING that no one is giving you a job.

GEEZ!

Cracker? are you using a racial derogatory term there Arthur? Coward

Too bad you were not one of the cronies of the political elite, they would of borrowed trillions on the backs of the taxpayers and given you billions.

When ANYONE believes that the government is there to help you, you have already given them control.

I listened to the likes of Bawney Fwank and other idiots in government stating that everything is fine. When a politician continually telling you that the house is NOT on fire, you know that in FACT that the house IS ON FIRE. Conservatives were warning that the housing debacle created by the leftists was infiltrating the entire world economy and what did the leftists say? Nothing is wrong, nothing is going to happen.

Others that warned about the problems were denigrated and attacked maliciously by morons on the internet, by the MSM and idiot politicians like Bawney Fwank, Dodd, Pelosi, Reid, Obama and others. Maybe you should ask yourself, should I listen to these people anymore? Maybe google the Cloward Piven strategy to decimate the US government and INFORM yourself.

It is not the responsibility of your fellow citizens to work their entire lives to help you out in a time of crisis. That is called CHARITY, not government.

What is the mindset of those that believe that everything will be okay as long as the government steps in? Where did you get your mindset? Where did you get that belief? The MSM? The public schools?

I would really like an answer to those questions.

 lol Alive and I expect you to be very upset with your republican buddies when the forget about cut cap and balance if they get into office:)

m_mayhem,
If you are going to insult Glenn Beck, you should have the intelligence to spell his name correctly.   You are such a good parent teaching your children the process of a brain rotting out.   Thank you for your comment directed to me.
Delores Smith
Delores109@cox.net

m_mayhem,
I don’t need to rotate my index finger in a twirling motion.  You have already done it.  Thank you for your comment.  I like all points of view.
Delores Smith
Delores109@cox.net

IIene K,
Let me respond to what you said about my e-mall address.  I am not trying to attract a man, since I have a wonderful husband and, by the way, my name is really “Delores”.  Your comment leads me to believe that this is what you are trying to do, and you are projecting that onto me with your insult.  I have a suggestion for you.  When you see the name, “Delores109″ anywhere, just don’t read the comment.
Ignore it.  It shakes you up too much..  I have never written that I wish our country fails.  To the contrary, I am presenting facts to prevent its failure.  That is my right as an American.  Your right is to ignore the facts.  Another right of mine is to not read your comments.
Delores Smith
Delores109@cox.net

You know, you “teas” should re-think the obstruction and only saying no! We know you pray to God for this country to fail and if there is a change 2012, you’ll have about 15mins. to turn everything around. Remember you said we couldn’t blame Bush for, wars, debt, or anything. When you dig the hole deeper and deeper, it won’t help your watch!

You don’t have to worry about silly or facts on this site.

Fact check!

You’re right. Demint always was a fake christian punk.

most people attempt to hide their ignorance, you “wallow” in it.  Good for you.

What has ignorance got to do with the post? Does this make you feel better? Is this grade school? “you wallow in it” wow, ….you really said something there “tea”.

Most Americans are tired of Obama’s Empty speeches.  Great, he can speak well, so friggin what!  He can’t produce, that is the main thing.  All Talk, No Substance.  Same Feces, Different Day, when it comes to what Obama has to say.  He is a Failure, period!  Vote for Anyone But Obama in 2012!

Funny that you mention the Civil War?  I am writing a short piece arguing that with assassination of Lincoln, by Booth and company, the South effectively won the War!

Think about it, what changed after Appamatox?  Just the end of hostilities, but slavery marched on for another 100 or so years.  As a matter of fact, has slavery ever gone away?

I argue that the slaves were given clothing, food and a place to live.  Hence they were employed by some contemporary standards.  Of course, some Plantations and situations were better than others.  So really, a Phillipino, Pakistani, even a Mexican works for what amounts to very little more than American Slaves did?  All so we can have nice clothes to wear and food to eat…

Don’t underestimate me YODA, in reality I am extremely consistent.

Purveyor

Man, I was wondering about you?  Where have you been?  Apparently you have met VOLTMAN?

I engaged him in a series of conversations, and he politely asked me not to be so heavy handed.  I obliged and switched to a less acerbic tone.  Then, as you can see he is a prick to everybody else, and that is hypocrisy.

Truth is, I let my guard down and showed a hint of compassion for the man and half-wit ideology.  I learn from my mistakes, though!

You know I sent an e-mail to your web site?

Purveyor

I believe the word/term is “quarter?”  No longer will any be requested, and certainly none given!

I did, I worked him over fairly good and then he started whining…  Shame on me

Sounds like you need to do some more research and learn what slavery is all about. So misguided you are! 

Unfortunately, you lack the ability to “connect the dots,” so to speak.  The piece is an indictment of sorts, of the contemporary abuse of of the low wage worker.  Whether it be within America’s borders or outside of the country.  Right now, in 2011, there are men, women and children working for “slave wages?”

After the Civil War, the “freed Slaves” were little better off than they had been and today’s low wage worker is, perhaps, little better off than the Southern Slaves?

I wrote the piece for a Union friend to show how little has changed.  However, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt, considering what I am sure your attitude is toward me.  However, as I said, I am actually very consistent.  Just “connect the dots.”

Purveyor

I say again very misguided you are.  I agree corporations want to take us back to that era.  A lot has changed you just can’t see outside your bubble.  Remember to pull the shades up and look around. Other countries are different and still work for very, very little.  

While I believe that everyone is tired of these speeches with no substance and no follow-up actions, I believe, that congress has a legislative responsiblity to come up with solutions and proposals in respect to jobs and the economy, as well. I don’t recall anything coming out of the House relating to these issues. To the best of my recollection we voted for republicans because they ran on jobs in November. Where is the legislation relating to jobs. Doesn’t most of legislation come out of the house and not everything is laid on the feet of the presidency. If the House continues on the current path and over reaches as the democrats did in 2009 and 2010, we’ll vote them out in 2012.

My wife and I ran our own business for years.Thank you very much for your assuming advise.

Pats fan

Are you talking about Perry? Because I’m already sick of hearing his rhetoric BS.

This is all President Obama’s fault? There are two other equal branches of government Doncha Know.

Intelligent comeback. NOT.

DeMint has one primary goal, which he stated earlier, to oppose everything Obama does, to bring about his “Waterloo”. So it is no surprise that he dismisses what the president is going to say before he hears it. And as far as legislation goes, what common man reads that stuff? In fact I would bet that half the Senators do not read that stuff. The people want to know in common terms what it means, that’s all.

The only reason the Republicans won’t support it is that it will be predictably nonsensical. They have eyes to see and they understand how disastrous every non-Bush era policy President Obama has advocated and implemented has been. Why would anyone with any sense support more of the same?

You’re right of course, but that’s what our political arena looks like these days.  I glanced at the picture of Ronald and Tip above and thought they looked like they were enjoying each others company.  Those were the days!    

p.s. before I get blasted for the all the dirty stuff back then – I know, it was just the image of people being people I appreciated.  

Is it possible for any Obama supporter do defend his policies on their own merits rather than relative to FORMER President Bush?

Didn’t think so.

Passed several budgets, Cut, Cap & Balance & an ObamaCare repeal bill. The problem is that we have a pack of do-nothings in the upper chamber and in the White House who refuse even look at anything the House does.

An accusation of being uneducated followed by a misspelling of buffoons.

Perfect.

Liberals are so much smarter than everyone else. If you don’t believe it, just ask one.

Thanks for the laugh!

I disagree. I know he doesn’t want the US to be destroyed. I think that, more than anything, Obama wants to be re-elected and he knows this is unlikely if the economy is still sluggish and unemployment is high. He wants things to improve but he doesn’t know how to make the improvements. He thinks he’s doing all the right things but that we are simply not smart enough to follow his leadership. Like children, we need to have it explained to us again and again – thus all the speeches. He thinks that he can force businesses to hire through implementing burdensome taxes and regulations but refuses to see the results of these actions where they have been tried before. If you want to see what the world would look like if we were smart enough to follow this president’s lead – look at Detroit.

If you don’t want to end up with a whole bunch of spam in your email inbox, you may want to remove your email address from your signature.

It that would run Obama out of town I would go for it.  But then you do realize you are being very childish in  your arguments dont you?   Let me know if you dont and I will arrange for someone to let you know.

NOOOOOOO  what we want is for Government to get the hell out of the way and off the backs of those who can create jobs,  no more no less.   Liberals insist on big government which costs more tax payer revenue,  and Conservatives believe we need less government which reduces tax payer costs.  YES we do understand there are necessary Gov Jobs and we are not talking about those,  but then you knew that right?   But you will spin it to say we want all Gov jobs dismantled,   That would be your problem, but we can handle that and will.  

What do you call love, hate, charity, revenge, humanity, magnanimity,
forgiveness? Different results of the one master impulse: the necessity of
securing one’s self-approval.
- What is Man?Mark Twain

Americans,    MEET   Liberalizm   Welfare.  Liberals pander to the poor for votes,  Conservatives pander to the rich as you call them, for votes.   If either party wishes more votes they must create more of those they pander to.   And now you understand why Liberals need you to remain poor and stupid,  so they can keep you there without knowing they deliberatly do it and stupid enough to believe when they say its the Republicans that did it to you.   Are you Really that dumb?

He is fighting a Liberal anti job President and a Liberal anti Job Senate,  with only his house votes what would you have him do?    Its all he can do to prevent this tax and spend president from further spending us into oblivion.   His hands are full right now until 2012.  After that he will repeal Obama care and begin removing all those rediculous Green Rules and Restrictions and get us drilling for oil in our own country.  That is only the start but it will begin the hiring again and you will see revenues go way up again,  Something Obama and his socialist gang has no concept of.

Dang,  the cops are here.

Hubris.

Why dont you ask Obama why he is doing what he is doing?   All we know is that he has castrated this country, the business world and anything that even looks like it might create a job in this country.  Please ask him and quick.  We all would like to know, even tho its a bit late and now its clear he has no clue and has to go.

It is always gratifying to once again be shown the true nature of a Liberal.  You are just pathetic little weasels who when scared lash out like rabid little rodents.  And boy are you scared.  Again Thanks for showing the world what and who you really are.   You dont like drugs?   OK why not come to Texas and help fight back the cartels that flood us with them.  You dont like guns?  Ok you  might want to let Obama know you are sick of his gang allowing them to be bought up in America and then allowed to be sent to Mexico and other places where they kill Americans.   You dont like bad water, fine, get rid of Obama so we can get the economy going again and we can afford to clean up more of our water.  Right now we cant,  Please dont try and tell me you were walking 2 days out of the womb.  

Too bad DeMint doesn’t want to listen to the president’s speech. He MIGHT learn something. Isn’t it the job of Congress to write the laws? So far they haven’t produced much for job creation. Just what does DeMint believe his job to be?

 U.S. Department of Commerce Growth rates
1950-59  3.4 percent  tax rate  84-90%
1960-69  3.7 percent  tax rate  70-90%  best growth in history
2000-08  1.9 percent  tax rate 28%-35% worst growth in history
  Enough Said about how tax rates kill business.

Good God, another Uncle Glenn follower!!!!! I’m sure you still think Obama wasn’t born in the U.S. Just keep paying Beck his 5 a month. He needs it for his new mansion. At least he’s not taking up the public airwaves. Even Fox won’t  have anything to do with the rodeo clown. That should tell you idiots something!!!!!

Here’s a bright one!!!

I take a position half-way between that of Purveyor and Yoda by saying that right after the Civil War, things got no better for most freed slaves, and it wasn’t until 100 years later that discrimination was seriously challenged. So, Purveyor’s paper has significant merit. (There was no way to put all of the nuances in a place like this.)

It now looks like for all laborers things peaked in about 1975 or so (very rough estimate), and are now going back down.

Best summation yet.

Dislike.

Golf! Drink!

More white space (paragraphs with spaces between them) makes for much easier reading.

More white space (paragraphs with spaces between them) makes for much easier reading.

Show us where conservatives warned about the housing problem before it happened.

You are going against the grain of conservatives in these comments. All others have claimed that Obama never had a jobs plan.

Lord help me. Uncle Glenn in a dress!!!

at least they “know” not to post their fricking email address!!

at least they “know” not to post their fricking email address!!

oregonman1,
You really don’t care what I think.  You are just eager to take an opportunity to attack Glenn Beck.  That is your right, but be aware of facts.  An Arab owns 9% of the voting rights for Fox News, and he did not like hearing the TRUTH from Glenn Beck.  This is the same man who tried to give the previous mayor of N.Y., (Rudy) a very large check when 9/12 happened.  The man said, “Now, maybe you will start thinking of Muslims differently.”  Rudy refused to accept the check.  As for Glenn Beck, would you have the courage to go to Israel to stand with the Israeli people, while Muslim Radicals surround you?  Hamas, part of the Palestinean government, went into an Israel home recently, stabbed a mother and father, shoved a knife in the hearts of a baby boy, and two other little boys.  The sister of these boys came home to find all of them dead.  If you have only a mouth to call people “rodeo clowns and idiots,” why don’t you stop showing your ignorance?
Delores Smith
Delores109@cox.net

Very well said, Delores. Very well said, indeed.

oregonman1
I responded to Greg’s comment about my e-mails.  You took the opportunity to insult me when it was none of your concern.  I believe you have met your match.  Are you named after Oregon soap.  If so, wash your mouth out with it.
Delores Smith
Delores109@cox.net  

I have been down in Albuquerque NM building a restaurant. First restaurant, about the 150th commercial Tenant Improvement or commercial building. Of course my Project Manager told the owner’s we could get it done in 4 weeks, the average one takes 6 to 7 and this one is in an old Quonset style roof and old crawl space instead of concrete. Two things that are slowing us down, not to mention that the other restaurants are a lot smaller. This one has a tower inside that we are doing that is about 40 feet to the hip roof peak. The other vaulted areas are 3 dimensional due to the Quonset style roof and is approximately
18 foot vaults. All the other building usually do not get a lid (rock) because of their steel framing. This is steel trusses with wood joists between. Long story short, this job should have been scheduled for at least 6 weeks more like 7. I have not had a day off since I began driving Wed, August 17th to get down here.

To top it off, my old work laptop computer bit the dust a couple of months ago, so I had to get a new one and it took me awhile to get this hunk of junk windows 7 to accept my software package and get back up and running. I put in 10 hours today and that is the shortest day I have had in 2 and 1/2 weeks. I get on line and my webhost has an email for me saying they shut down my site since my site sent out a mass email. Hmmmm, I was having trouble with people using my forum to spam their sites before; now somehow they got access to my site email and started sending mass emails. GEEZ!

Making good money, dough.

As for voltman, he whines about the evil rich then comes back with saying he is a business owner. Probably one of those limousine liberals, biggest hypocrites in the world.

LimousineLiberal? Biggest hypocrites in the world.

“With the financial sector in turmoil today, the media and the
politicians have started throwing around blame with the same
recklessness as lenders threw around credit to create the problem. 
Politically, the pertinent question is this: Which candidate foresaw the
credit crisis and tried to do something about it?  As it turns out,
John McCain did — and partnered with three other Senate Republicans to
reform the
government’s involvement in lending three years ago, after an attempt by the Bush administration died in Congress two years earlier.  McCain spoke forcefully on May 25, 2006, on behalf of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005 (via Beltway Snark):”
Source-http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/17/mccains-attempt-to-fix-fannie-mae-freddie-mac-in-2005/

By the way, do you not remember the Dumbocrats like Bawney Fwank and others fighting tooth and nail to stop any stoppage of the Fannie and Fweddie debacle?

Would you like some other names to add to Bawneys?

DavidKramer”LimousineLiberal? Biggest hypocrites in the world.”…….. So your against small business owners.? You sir are the hypocrite. Make up your mind.

Gee I thought you were a half decent person.In fact I was thinking How I could get Some Jerry Jeff Walker tunes to you recently.As I said before I am no angel. I have tossed out a few insults.But only when someone insulted me first. i would be more then happy to engage in civil disscussion.Kind of tough at this site…………………….”half-wit ideology”.. Gee thanks.I don’t believe I ever insulted you.Hypocrisy you say.

I never said I was rich. Just comfortable.

Well that is no good, you should be struggling for the collective. You probably own a big screen tv, computer system, 2-3 cars, $350,000 home and you should give it all to your collective.

To each according to their need I thought all you leftists believed that?

Jealous?

Thank you. That was informative. I yield to your scholarship on this.

Programs started by the entire congress during the last months of Bush’s second term started turning the economy back around, and Obama continued the Bush recovery policies. They are the same ones that McCain stopped his campaign to support.

We had things at least leveled out, then the Teapublicans started screaming bloody murder job killer, and everybody lost confidence. It was self-fulfilling doom saying that has frightened the entire world! 

“Neutral Principle.”  The Golden Rule, good sportsmanship and “equal protection” all wrapped up into one  philosophy, that is “Neutral Principle.”  

Certainly, neutral principle should be applied to government and legislation and adjudication.  The real test comes when such is applied to yourself?  Philosophy should address and answer many of the same questions as religion/theology, yet, philosophy remains in the halls of academe and the religious adherent, is expected to carry their beliefs with them, unfailingly.  ”Neutral Principle,” turns reason and logic into a philosophic ideology that can and should govern a man’s behavior through life.I try to be consistent and NOT adjust my philosophy, ad hoc.  Occasionally I use words and phrases that could be construed as “ad hominem.”  However, such is NOT the case.  Phrases such as “useful idiot” and “cognitive dissonance.” are merely analytical and objective.  Moreover, I VERY seldom use profanity or vulgarity.  Ergo, I try, ever, so hard, to live by my own philosophy and expect the same from my counterparts.Therefore, when you asked me  to play chess without my queen, (metaphorically speaking) I obliged.  Then, later on when I read your words in other posts, I was disappointed with you, and myself.  As for “half wit” ideology, that is the “nature of the beast” in Mediaite.  We all get to read each others mail!  LOLAnyway, I am reasonably certain that my posts are are profoundly civil and devoid of inelegance.  Even when responding to an, um, er, “unsavory attack,” (ad hominem?) I never lower the intellect of my retort, rather, I elevate such.Purveyor

I hope to engage you in civil discussion the the future.  Your golden rule is more like a siver rule as you wrote…………..”half-wit ideology”.. I refrained from retaliation. Which II have done in your case. Another rule:
Luke 6:31 Do unto others as you would have them do to you comes to mind. If you don’t toss insults to me I will not insult you. I think that I have not broken my belief

But that is exactly what is happening. I am not saying that the plan was actually to eliminate police, fire and teaching positions, but this is what is happening at the state and local level as a direct result of the cutting for cutting’s sake.

We definitely need to cut spending, but not at the cost we see at the local level and that is what keeps getting lost in the national debate.

Again, I do not think any of the Tea Party folks or even that bumbling ideologue Cantor want to see police, fire and the like lose their jobs, but that is the practical result of their actions. I am sure a more targeted approach to these spending cuts can be found that actually eliminates the real waste like multiple layers of managers and overpaid do-nothing college professors while preserving those that actually protect, rescue and teach our children.

The problem is at the state and local level and, sadly, none of the pointless iconoclasts in national leadership – either elective or organizational – will address this reality.

Luke 6:31 is the “Golden Rule?”  Never the less, I do choose my words carefully.

How about Revelations 13:18?  The Bible does have curious flavors, doesn’t it?

Anyway, many moon’s ago, when I was reading “The Drifters,” by James Michener, I came across a Biblical passage that is found almost identically in both the book of Joel and The Acts:

“Your old men will dream dreams, and your young men shall see  visions.” 

 As I grow older I struggle to continue to see “visions.”  How much longer do I have to be a philosopher, not just quote them?

Purveyor

Sen. Jim DeMint Blasts Obama: ‘I’m Not Interested In His Speech’

No one is.

By the way, gold prices are dropping along with the stock market. Strange, isn’t it?

Damn Delores, now I am confused! that’s not what you told me last night between your moans and your mouth being full!!! I’m completely at a loss now

How dare you Talk to me about people dying. Now you’ve pissed me off you stupid fucking twat!!!!you don’t know a goddamn thing about dying. Read about the Tet Offensive  Jan . 31, 1968 in Vietnam and talk to me about people dying. You have no fucking idea what that was like!!! As far as you shit for brains hero beck and for that matter hannity and big fat rush.where did they defend their country? I’ll tell you, no where because their cowards!!!!! HOW FUCKING DARE YOU TALK TO ME ABOUT GLENN BECK’S COURAGE!!! I’ve earn the right to call anyone and idiot and rodeo clown, What the fuck have you done for your country you stupid fucking bitch,,,,,,,,,    

How dare you Talk to me about people dying. Now you’ve pissed me off you stupid fucking twat!!!!you don’t know a goddamn thing about dying. Read about the Tet Offensive  Jan . 31, 1968 in Vietnam and talk to me about people dying. You have no fucking idea what that was like!!! As far as you shit for brains hero beck and for that matter hannity and big fat rush.where did they defend their country? I’ll tell you, no where because their cowards!!!!! HOW FUCKING DARE YOU TALK TO ME ABOUT GLENN BECK’S COURAGE!!! I’ve earn the right to call anyone and idiot and rodeo clown, What the fuck have you done for your country you stupid fucking bitch,,,,,,,,,    

oregonman1
I am replying to this comment only to make you realize how stupid you are.  I have three members of my family buried at Arlington National Cemetery.  All three gave their lives for this nation WITH PRIDE. They were intelligent, honorable men.  This is the last comment you will ever receive from you.
Delores Smith

Oh and I bet you’re still on that submarine trolling the seas in the Gulf of Tonkin…

You are no Vet, asshole. No vet would ever talk to a woman the way you unleased your attack.

Is this you, clayboy? reinventing yourself again?

But he saved the band “The Eagles” with Hotel California…

Bad form old boy. No real vet dresses down a civilian with that kind of response. Most of us don’t air the dirty linens unless you still have PTSD issues untreated. IF that is the case you should get help at the VA.

Phu Bai, outside Hue, where were you? I believe that we gave more than we got during Tet.

You really should tone it down with the non-combatants.

Calm down Brother. You don’t have the right to spew  Vulgarity and hate on this site. Many of us who post here are also Vets and have experienced what you have.  We lean to live with it.  Do you need to talk to someone?  I’m a contact person for the local VA Hospital and I can post some local VA services in your area if you’re interested. Let me know if I can help. In the meantime, this is just the Internet and that’s all it is.

Many of us understand what so many don’t.

We’re all brothers in war.  Semper Fi.

“TMP”

I’ll bw more that happy to respond to you. you’re correct in me toning it down. no one is going to compare me to Glen’s Beck courage. There I’ve said my piece and I’m done on this subject. THanks for your concearn

I never got a chance to thank you for your support on my assertion about the South’s winning the war with the Assassination of Lincoln, along my assertion that slavery lingered on, in various forms, for another 100 years as a result.  

I thought my assertion was/is unique and credible, yet the others could not grasp the “nuance?”  I think YODA, distrusts my motives and VOLT is still trying to figure me out?  LOL  Whereas you and I have enough “road runnin under our wheels,” (Jackson Brown) to know that the Philosopher in me asks,   “what if?” a lot…  Anyway,  I have enough unique questions and ideas in my journal to write a book, I better get going on it! 

Thanks again 

You are welcome.
When you get the time, I suggest you delve into David Ricardo’s thoughts on economics. His ideas should appeal to your neutralist ideals, and the fact that he came slightly after Adam Smith but predated our founding fathers by almost a century (giving them plenty of time to know about him) should give you much food for thought.

David Ricardo was a contemporary of John Stuart Mill.  Mill, a Libertarian, had a great affect on my then nascent and growing philosophy.  Hence, while reading Mill, I came across Ricardo. 

Ricardo was an extremely prolific writer with eclectic interests, something I can relate too?  Ouch!  Anyway, I cannot point to the moment or the passage but it was somewhere during my study of Ricardo where I started down the path of “Economic Treason.”

Regardless, your letter caused me to look back into old journals and books that I hadn’t thought of in quite some time… A trip down academic memory lane, so to speak?  

Thanks  

Then you must read Ricardo to understand that “economic treason” is not only anti-neutralist, it is impractical. Quite frankly, I think that “treason” is the least neutral word in the English language. You must give Ricardo a chance to explain his theory on comparative advantage to you. He is completely libertarian in that regard, whereas the protectionism that he opposes is necessarily Big Government interference in free and fair trade.

Then you must read Ricardo to understand that “economic treason” is not only anti-neutralist, it is impractical. Quite frankly, I think that “treason” is the least neutral word in the English language. You must give Ricardo a chance to explain his theory on comparative advantage to you. He is completely libertarian in that regard, whereas the protectionism that he opposes is necessarily Big Government interference in free and fair trade.

By the way, still saying that gold and other commodities are a bad deal? Are you Keynesians ever going to admit you have destroyed your fiat currency?

“Looking at the weekly chart on Gold (vs. USD), the sell-off from two
weeks ago at the rejection of $1900 was impressive not so much in how
much it dropped in a single week, but on how well it recovered.  The
following act in the next week was a solid weekly gain of 3.4% from an
opening price of $1822 – 1864 closing towards the highs suggesting
buyers were holding into the weekend and thus not taking profits.  The
following week was a sell-off but very mild in nature and a third week
of price rejecting off the weekly lows.  Three weeks of selling and
three weeks of strong rejections off the lows clearly communicating to
us anytime the shiny metal is sold off, buyers are eager to come back
in.  And each time, they are doing so with more confidence because every
time, they are buying at a higher price suggesting they are happy to
take any dips as an opportunity to buy (or invest/hold) more gold.”

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-post-gold-technical-outlook-looks-set-upside-break

Yet gold was most valuable when its price was $820 an oz. because having that much money then was more valuable than having $2,400 is now. It is called inflation. When that is taken into account, gold did lose value.

Meanwhile, gold is good for savings, but not for investment, IF it always goes up. You only gain money when you sell it, and then it is gone. You would have to buy more gold at the higher price to be “in gold” again. Meanwhile, you loose money in buying and selling fees, etc. So, if you treat it like a savings account, you can call that an investment, but if you are trading it constantly, you are losing money. Only the guy who makes the actual trade for you is always making money by collecting fees.

Some folks “invest” in a way that they never see the gold, and they are paying “security” fees, which actually means storage fees. That is no different than investing in land that goes unused. You pay property taxes while the land just sits there.

So, if gold is your nest-egg, fine. If you think the whole monetary system will come to an end, that’s your problem, but be sure you can get to your gold. Don’t let it be sitting in someone else’s “pocket” with only a piece of paper in your hand.

As for fiat currency. It has always been just that. Currency is only a way of comparing apples and oranges. A dollar can buy this many apples or that many oranges. Or, it can buy so much bread. Nobody actually carries precious metals around in their pockets anymore.

I gain money by working with my muscle or my brain, and I “lose” money by buying necessities an luxuries, and gold never changes hands in any of those deals. The buying power of “fiat” money is proven constantly. Try paying for things in gold, and watch your gold disappear.