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‘Torture Memo’ Author John Yoo: Killing Osama Bin Laden Was A Mistake

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In a fiery interview on CNN’s In the Arena, John Yoo, the Bush Administration deputy assistant attorney general who wrote the “torture memos” on enhanced interrogation, talked to Eliot Spitzer about his belief that Osama bin Laden should have been taken alive. “The best, most reliable information we can get is from interrogation and I’m worried that we have, this administration has closed off that flow of intelligence since President Obama took office,” said Yoo.

Yoo, who wrote an op-ed for The Wall Street Journal on the American raid in Pakistan, clashed with Spitzer on whether he had “second guessed” the president and the American forces who carried out the raid:

SPITZER: You know, John, I just got to say I think it is remarkable that the person who wrote the legal opinion that rationalized torture, perhaps the most ridiculed legal opinion in many years that I’m aware of, is now second guessing the tactical decisions made by the president that has been the single most successful counterterrorism effort in the past decade. Your president, for whom you work, and I mean no disrespect to mean, did not succeed and doing what President Obama has just done. And you’re now second guessing down to the number of Navy SEALs he sent in saying they should have done it a different way. I just don’t know what possible credentials you have to second guess the number of Navy SEALs who should have gone in to Abbottabad to capture bin Laden.

YOO: Well, I don’t know if you want to question my credentials and use me as a punching bag. This might be the last time I’m obviously going to be on your show, because you obviously don’t think it’s worthwhile to hear from me at all. But I do think that these are legitimate questions that a lot of people are raising in Washington. I think that the Obama administration had several options. I think it’s bizarre that you would say that in our democracy that people shouldn’t raise questions and ask whether something could have been done better. And I do think that this administration has put itself into a bit of a corner because they really don’t want to capture Al Qaeda leaders. I mean, I think the record seems pretty clear on that.

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  • Colorado_Conservative

    It is above my pay grade why ANYONE would go on ANY of the liberal freak shows!!!

  • TfT

    And now we know why client number nine doesn’t have many viewers. What an asshole. he who claims water boarding is torture and illegal stands by the legality of assassination.

    i will never understand the democrats and their disgraceful double standards.

    CNN would be wise to remove elliot and hire someone with an ounce of integrity and credibililty.

  • Thelonious Funk

    Yoo helped expand the power of the Executive Branch beyond anything we have ever had in America. Now Yoo have to deal with it.

  • notsofast

    talked to Eliot Spitzer about his belief that Osama bin Laden should have been taken alive. ”

    I agree.

    I believe it will turn out that all 4 men killed in the UBL house were executed.

  • Skippy

    Pssst… pssst… psst… Mr. Yoo… you know who is looking for a fierce terrorist apologist?

    The Bin Laden family.

    They want to bring suit using the same argument John Yoo is using. “Bin Laden was executed”

  • notsofast

    Skippy said:
    Skippy says:
    May 6, 2011 at 5:14 pm Skippy(Quote

    This from a racist who said Barry evolved from a rat and then lied about the Seal operation, saying the helicopter was shot down.

    What won’t you lie about, son?

  • The Lantern of Truth

    John . Waste of breath trying get Eliot to understand reason . He’s a fool .

  • notsofast

    SPITZER: You know, John, I just got to say I think it is remarkable that the person who wrote the legal opinion that rationalized torture, perhaps the most ridiculed legal opinion in many years that I’m aware of, is now second guessing the tactical decisions made by the president that has been the single most successful counterterrorism effort in the past decade”

    Yes client#(, we should prosecute those who got the intel on how to find UBL without resorting to lethal measures , but celebrate those who killed 4 unarmed men when they didn’t have to.

    Typical specious lib argument.

  • Skippy

    notsofast said:
    This from a racist who said Barry evolved from a rat and then lied about the Seal operation, saying the helicopter was shot down.

    What won’t you lie about, son?

    You must be really sore to resort to making up lies, little racist birfher.

  • notsofast

    Skippy said:
    You must be really sore to resort to making up lies, little racist birfher.

    Son, it was you who lied!

    Tell us more about the shot-down helicopter.

    LOL

  • TfT

    Spitzer doesn’t get it: It was a “capture and kill” mission; a direct action; not a CT action. Poor Elliot, what an idiot he is.

    “ridiculed legal opinion” in the eyes of the liberal left, but not in the eyes of most legal experts.

    Poor CNN, they hired an idiot and a cheat, lie, thief and disgraced democrat governor who has the nerve to question anyone. What a joke.

  • skyfet

    This! coming from a torture guy.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dronetek-Bulk-Vanderhuge/100000918732763 Dronetek

    Why has questioning or being critical of this administration become such a taboo thing in the media? The same media that questioned every single thing Bush did and harped about it for 8 years straight. This guy Spitzer really things hes an objective journalist? HA!

  • Skippy

    notsofast said:
    Son, it was you who lied!

    Tell us more about the shot-down helicopter.

    LOL

    I posted the articles, you moron.

    I am not wasting any more time on that. Now, amuse me.

  • notsofast

    Skippy said:
    I posted the articles, you moron.

    Not one article said the copter had been shot down and you know it. You just made it up like Barry and his WH have made much of the story up and are now revising it day by day.

  • notsofast

    SPITZER: You know, John, I just got to say I think it is remarkable that the person who wrote the legal opinion that rationalized torture, ”

    Wrong, Client #9- it said water-boarding was legal.

  • Sam M.

    Colorado_Conservative said:
    It is above my pay grade why ANYONE would go on ANY of the liberal freak shows!!!

    There are a lot of things above your pay grade. This is just silly.

  • redleaf

    …unless Bush did it, in which case it would be awesome.
    In fact, whatever Obama did is wrong.
    Whatever Bush would have done is right.
    Even if it’s the same thing.

  • TangledThorns

    John Yoo is a sharp guy, he even easily tripped up John Stewart.

  • Sam M.

    John Yoo should have his credentials questioned and should be used as a punching bag. He’s earned it.

  • WCinWI

    Can anyone with a military background or who has bee following this story closely, tell me why we didn’t capture him alive? Logic would say that you would want to hold the person in a secret location and gather their intel.

    If there were extra circumstances to such that he was wearing a bomb or that he was resorting to grab a weapon, then I can understand that you would want to paralyze the individual. But why would you shoot the guy in the head? What good does that do for future captures?

  • ProObamaAgenda

    notsofast said:
    SPITZER: You know, John, I just got to say I think it is remarkable that the person who wrote the legal opinion that rationalized torture, perhaps the most ridiculed legal opinion in many years that I’m aware of, is now second guessing the tactical decisions made by the president that has been the single most successful counterterrorism effort in the past decade”

    Yes client#(, we should prosecute those who got the intel on how to find UBL without resorting to lethal measures , but celebrate those who killed 4 unarmed men when they didn’t have to.

    Typical specious lib argument.

    its great to see morons like you defend bin laden against a criminal US Government….you cant get much more unamerican than that….i knew it all the time…republicans are terrorists too, you assholes have been running around for two years being pipe bomb magnets…anything to derail Obama….how many Americans are you willing to see die asshole????…i imagine however many it takes is your answer….you sir are reason #1 Obama needs to open interment camps immediately and put you dipshits away b4 you get people killed. A republican aint shit…has never been shit and will never be shit

  • BatBoy

    Has anyone noticed that the population at Gitmo has not increased since the New Administration came to office.

    It must be that Pesky “Shoot to Kill” orderd by the White House.

  • Gasket

    BatBoy said:
    Has anyone noticed that the population at Gitmo has not increased since the New Administration came to office.

    It must be that Pesky “Shoot to Kill” orderd by the White House.

    Actually…idiot, they have been REDUCING the population at Gitmo since Bush’s administration. Don’t forget it’s actually Bush who started the process of shutting down Gitmo by reducing it’s population. Now go back to your prattling.

  • ProObamaAgenda

    well seems the events of the last week have drawn you repukes out of your terrorist closets…how long is it gonna be b4 you assholes start strapping bombs to yourselves and blowing up subways????…what yall waiting for??? huh ??…you waiting for your grand dragon limbaugh to give the command for your suicide mission to begin???? its no doubt that you assholes at the very least align yourselves with al Queda….Its a damn shame…..you unintellegent crossburning wingnuts will do anything to destroy america as if its Obamas fault that youre too freaking dumb to win an election

  • An Idea

    ProObamaAgenda said:
    …..you unintellegent

    Yes , Republicans are unintelligent .

  • An Idea

    ProObamaAgenda said:
    well seems the events of the last week have drawn you repukes out of your terrorist closets…how long is it gonna be b4 you assholes start strapping bombs to yourselves and blowing up subways????…what yall waiting for??? huh ??…you waiting for your grand dragon limbaugh to give the command for your suicide mission to begin???? its no doubt that you assholes at the very least align yourselves with al Queda….Its a damn shame…..you unintellegent crossburning wingnuts will do anything to destroy america as if its Obamas fault that youre too freaking dumb to win an election

    The Democrat Party of Grayson , Behar , Fonda , Sharpton , Edwards , Blagojevich , Obama , Jackson-Lee, Frank ,Weiner and this nut looking good these days .

  • RowdyHoward

    BatBoy said:
    Has anyone noticed that the population at Gitmo has not increased since the New Administration came to office.

    It must be that Pesky “Shoot to Kill” orderd by the White House.

    So you’d rather your tax dollars be paying for these terrorists to be held at Gitmo? Funny you’re willing to spend money for them.

  • corplin

    YOO: Well, I don’t know if you want to question my credentials and use me as a punching bag. This might be the last time I’m obviously going to be on your show

    awwww poor yoo- he can’t take a liitle verbal jousting-but he’ll legalize torturing ppl to the point of organ failure-and THEREBY PUT ALL US SERVICE MEMBERS AT RISK! HOW IS THIS COWARDLY CRETIN STILL ROAMING FREE?

  • Mia Kulper

    NOT killing bin Ladin was a mistake too, Yoo.

  • Sam M.

    jdubbellu said:
    hooked on ebonics worked for me!

    No kidding.

  • xraex413

    When i hear democrats and republicans pointing the finger at eachother and saying should have done this should have done that, I feel there will always be a political divide in this country. Obama just got rid of the most wanted man in the world everyone celebrated for one damn day and now its back to square one again. Obama shouldnt have killed him take him alive shouldnt have buried him in sea should release the photo, my god when does this crap end, if bush did exactly what obama did republicans would be celebrating like no other and democrates would be doing exactly what the republicans are doing now. The one time democrats and republicans will work together is when someone who is not with there political party tries to get in a presidential race. Dems and Repubs are a two party dictatorship. If a republican does something great it will be criticized by democrats and vice versa. Why would anyone be a registered voter as either of these two parties. The next elections should have the candidates running with just there names on the ballot and no political party, and then see how the voting goes. And i know this doesnt have much to do with the topic of the video but its just an over all thing.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Clifford-EElisary/1434665168 Clifford E.Elisary

    JOHN WOO, is a War criminal, I,m 65 Years and just seeing this PUNK on the TV makes me want to Puke. What a useless excuse for a human being. An this is what the bush Administration had as thier very best, what crap!!!! Even at my age i would like a chance to Kick this Punks ASS!!!!!

  • ganymede

    I don’t watch CNN very much and didn’t realize how adept and skilled Spitzer is as an interviewer. He totally eviscerated John Woo who was the government lawyer whose name will go down in infamy. His defense of torture during the misbegotten Bush years will actually encourage more violence and criminality in the world, and certainly do our soldiers no good when they are captured. I’ve seen Yoo on TV news programs and on Jon Stewart and not even the great master was able to reach Yoo as Spitzer did. It’s strange that Yoo wants to get on TV probably to expiate his guilt. He’d better stick with FOX. Great stuff.

  • cjd ohio 1

    Clifford E.Elisary said:
    JOHN WOO, is a War criminal, I,m 65 Years and just seeing this PUNK on the TV makes me want to Puke. What a useless excuse for a human being. An this is what the bush Administration had as thier very best, what crap!!!! Even at my age i would like a chance to Kick this Punks ASS!!!!!

    war criminal?

  • kvon

    An Idea said:
    The Democrat Party of Grayson , Behar , Fonda , Sharpton , Edwards , Blagojevich , Obama , Jackson-Lee, Frank ,Weiner and this nut looking good these days .

    baaaaaad punctuation.

  • kvon

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    war criminal?

    Yes, by International Law (the only way one can be seen as a war criminal).

  • TfT

    Kind of like Obama then, I mean, ordering the assassination of OBL, unarmed as he was, is kind of against international law. But it’s ok, he is a dem and it was the gutsiest move any president in the history of the world has ever made, becuase he himself made it, just ask Joe, he will tell you so.

  • CanofSand

    corplin said:
    YOO: Well, I don’t know if you want to question my credentials and use me as a punching bag. This might be the last time I’m obviously going to be on your show

    awwww poor yoo- he can’t take a liitle verbal jousting-but he’ll legalize torturing ppl to the point of organ failure-and THEREBY PUT ALL US SERVICE MEMBERS AT RISK! HOW IS THIS COWARDLY CRETIN STILL ROAMING FREE?

    FTA:

    This might be the last time I’m obviously going to be on your show, because you obviously don’t think it’s worthwhile to hear from me at all. But I do think that these are legitimate questions that a lot of people are raising in Washington. I think that the Obama administration had several options. I think it’s bizarre that you would say that in our democracy that people shouldn’t raise questions and ask whether something could have been done better.

    You (being the intellectually dishonest hack that you are) not only took that out of context, but you split your little quote away MID-SENTENCE where THE VERY NEXT THING SAID contradicts the bullcrap point you’re trying to spew… and it’s not even to make an otherwise decent point: It’s a bunch of childish drivel (followed by hateful talking points).

    I’d be remiss if I didn’t also point out that WE CAN SEE THE CONTEXT OURSELVES, RIGHT HERE ON THIS PAGE, so that sort of spin is indicative of one or more of the following: 1) You’re a total imbecile, or maybe just such a self-blinding hack that you don’t think things through if you think you can take a shortcut to denigrating conservatives. 2) You think your political opponents are stupid and won’t catch your obvious flawed thinking. 3) You just want to score points with “your side,” knowing that they won’t call you on it due to their intellectual dishonesty and/or stupidity. #1, maybe that factors into it a little, but I don’t think you’re THAT stupid. Obviously, you’d be wrong in your assumptions if it was #2. #3, though… given the “thumbs up” count you’ve received, the third option has some basis in reality.

  • Rio

    Clifford E.Elisary said:
    seeing this PUNK on the TV makes me want to Puke

    eeewww, don’t do that. Next time you see him on your TV, take your shoe off and throw it at him…hard, really hard.

  • cjd ohio 1

    kvon said:
    Yes, by International Law (the only way one can be seen as a war criminal).

    i guess the president has to be seen the same way then

  • labman57

    Yoo had a towel and a bucket of water with bin Laden’s name on it.

    Water-boarding is an excellent interrogation technique if your goal is:
    a) a false confession
    b) retribution

    But if your primary objective to obtain useful intelligence, it’s going to be counterproductive.
    Those who are formally trained in interrogation techniques consistently agree that the so-called “enhanced” methods employed by the CIA were totally inappropriate and tactically inane.

    These techniques are commonly used by foreign extremist groups and dictatorial regimes that are trying to get prisoners to confess to crimes that the interrogators know were not committed, i.e., they are not interested in obtaining information, their goal is the confession itself.

  • cjd ohio 1

    labman57 said:
    Yoo had a towel and a bucket of water with bin Laden’s name on it. Water-boarding is an excellent interrogation technique if your goal is:a) a false confessionb) retribution But if your primary objective to obtain useful intelligence, it’s going to be counterproductive.Those who are formally trained in interrogation techniques consistently agree that the so-called “enhanced” methods employed by the CIA were totally inappropriate and tactically inane. These techniques are commonly used by foreign extremist groups and dictatorial regimes that are trying to get prisoners to confess to crimes that the interrogators know were not committed, i.e., they are not interested in obtaining information, their goal is the confession itself.

    yeah, shooting in the head is better

  • Naram-Sin

    Spitzer is a dolt. The so called “torture memo” didn’t rationalize torture it analized and discussed the then current case law on what was considered torture. And he did a pretty could job, although I thought that the discussion on the separation of powers defense was somewhat weak. I doubt that Spitzer ever bothered to read it. Most of Yoo’s critics didn’t. For example, Kennedy was seen in a hearing waving it around and claiming that it said that playing russian roulette with prisoners wasn’t torture, even though the memo actually said it was. But why should the enemies of the USA care about the truth.

    By the way, water boarding is not torture, although long term repeated use on a prisoner might become torture.

  • Tedderman

    Before he was known for bagging hookers, Spitzer was a highly skilled prosecutor and Attorney General. That’s why Yoo looked like a deer in the headlights at times. About time, this man (Yoo) should be in Guantanamo as a prisoner.

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    Naram-Sin said:
    The so called “torture memo” didn’t rationalize torture it analized and discussed the then current case law on what was considered torture. And he did a pretty could job, although I thought that the discussion on the separation of powers defense was somewhat weak.

    Are you talking about the same John Yoo?

    “The Justice Department’s Office of Professional Responsibility has been investigating Yoo’s work since 2004, and has completed a report which is sharply critical of his legal justification for waterboarding and other interrogation techniques.[18][19][20] The OPR report cites testimony Yoo gave to Justice Department investigators where he claims that the “president’s war-making authority was so broad that he had the constitutional power to order a village to be ‘massacred’”

    I guess that would be part of your “separation of powers weakness”, huh?

    “”On December 1, 2005, Yoo appeared in a debate in Chicago with University of Notre Dame law professor Doug Cassel. During the debate Cassel asked Yoo, “If the President deems that he’s got to torture somebody, including by crushing the testicles of the person’s child, there is no law that can stop him?”, to which Yoo replied “No treaty.” Cassel followed up with “Also no law by Congress — that is what you wrote in the August 2002 memo…”, to which Yoo replied “I think it depends on why the President thinks he needs to do that.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Yoo

    Are conservatives so far off the deep end that they would saddle up with a guy who defends “crushing the testicles of a person’s child” just to maintain allegiance to the Bush Administration?

    Really?

    –Cobra

  • BarneyFranken

    Cobra said:
    A href=”http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Yoo” rel=nofollow>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Yoo Are conservatives so far off the deep end that they would saddle up with a guy who defends “crushing the testicles of a person’s child” just to maintain allegiance to the Bush Administration? Really? –Cobra

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    You know you have some disputable stuff on your wikipedia page when you have all these warnings.

    To your greater point though, I aint down with nut crushing no matter who it is…that just aint cool.

    Yoo’s point here about killing Al-Qaeda rather than capturing them and getting further info is pretty vaild though.

    Getting further info doesnt mean having to torture, by the way. After all, isnt that a liberal’s best argument against torture, being that the same information can very well be obtained without it?

    Just be sure when your accusing your political opposition of being in the tank that you aren’t doing the same thing.

  • JohnDoe

    John Yoo is nothing more than a bureaucrat, at best. Several former CIA officers who have experience in advanced interrogation techniques have stated plainly, and on many occasions that torture is actually the least effective method of gathering information in interrogations. You get far more bad info than good, most of the time because they end up rambling incoherently, then you have to spend lots of time deciding what information was bogus and what was real.

    By the way, bin Laden always wanted to die, so the idea that he would willingly give the U.S. government intel through interrogation is preposterous. Also, water-boarding is in fact torture. Even Christopher Hitchens, who used to hold that water-boarding was NOT torture, was water-boarded himself in a demonstration, only to change his mind instantly.

  • valkyrie101

    TfT said:
    And now we know why client number nine doesn’t have many viewers. What an asshole. he who claims water boarding is torture and illegal stands by the legality of assassination

    Got LOL at someone who justifies torture, but who thinks that killing an enemy combatant, indeed, the leader of the enemy combatants, constitutes assassination.

  • Pablo

    Waterboarding bad, shooting unarmed people in the head good. Got it.

  • Pablo

    Gasket said:
    Actually…idiot, they have been REDUCING the population at Gitmo since Bush’s administration. Don’t forget it’s actually Bush who started the process of shutting down Gitmo by reducing it’s population. Now go back to your prattling.

    I’ve got some bad news for you Gasket. There is no process of shutting Gitmo down and there never has been. Now go back to your prattling.

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    BarneyFranken said:
    You know you have some disputable stuff on your wikipedia page when you have all these warnings.

    You understand that there’s an audio clip of Yoo making the testicle crushing statement, right?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz01hN9l-BM

    BarneyFranken said:
    Yoo’s point here about killing Al-Qaeda rather than capturing them and getting further info is pretty vaild though.

    Yet Yoo defends “massacres” of villages? Don’t kill the terrorist, but his neighborhood is fair game?

    –Cobra

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Pablo said:
    Waterboarding bad, shooting unarmed people in the head good. Got it.

    Straw Man alert!

  • tatboy

    skyfet said:
    This! coming from a torture guy.

    This! coming from client #9.

  • valkyrie101

    Pablo said:
    Waterboarding bad, shooting unarmed people in the head good. Got it.

    Man, you are sick. We did Usama and the Muslim world a major favor by killing him, and shooting him in the eye was by far the most humane way for that guy to go. Imagine the circus if that guy got captured. And right now you would be arguing that we should be water boarding him.

    Waterboarding was considered “torture” during WW2, but saturation bombing of London or Dresdon was called, what? You think our soldiers did not shoot unarmed men during WW2? In war, soldiers constantly render summary judgment. And that is what Obama did. Appropriately.

  • bigbrainbrad

    Pablo said:
    Waterboarding bad, shooting unarmed people in the head good. Got it.

    Good, now learn it and live it

    just kidding

  • mtjade4

    The envy from the right is showing….

  • Rgentum

    Well, I don’t know if you want to question my credentials and use me as a punching bag. This might be the last time I’m obviously going to be on your show, because you obviously don’t think it’s worthwhile to hear from me at all.

    MY GOD IS IT POSSIBLE FOR ANY REPUBLICAN TO PLEASE NOT BE SUCH A WHINY BITCHY VAJAY? These people are like little prissy children, whining and crying every time someone criticizes them.

  • Rgentum

    Pablo said:
    Waterboarding bad, shooting unarmed people in the head good. Got it.

    Wow man, I’ve seen some sick shit from Republicans but this open love fest for OBL is just nauseating. I get it. Republicans let OBL kill 3000 Americans and then started a war that’s costing taxpayers trillions, just like OBL wanted. Then, to speed up the American decline, Republicans created a bunch of “evidence” so they had an excuse to invade Iraq, again costing American taxpayers trillions of dollars. Then we get a President who wants to get us out of these ridiculous, money hemmorhaging crusades, and stop pouring money into the infrastructure of countries like Afghanistan, and start spending even a quarter of the money spent on Iraq and Afghanistan on American infrastructure, and then, horror of horrors, he kills OBL, and you are all beside yourselves with grief. I get it.

  • tatboy

    Rgentum said:
    Wow man, I’ve seen some sick shit from Republicans but this open love fest for OBL is just nauseating. I get it. Republicans let OBL kill 3000 Americans and then started a war that’s costing taxpayers trillions, just like OBL wanted. Then, to speed up the American decline, Republicans created a bunch of “evidence” so they had an excuse to invade Iraq, again costing American taxpayers trillions of dollars. Then we get a President who wants to get us out of these ridiculous, money hemmorhaging crusades, and stop pouring money into the infrastructure of countries like Afghanistan, and start spending even a quarter of the money spent on Iraq and Afghanistan on American infrastructure, and then, horror of horrors, he kills OBL, and you are all beside yourselves with grief. I get it.

    Kind of like you’re side being heatbroken about tortureing these dirtbags. Now your all pro-war all of a sudden.

  • BatBoy

    If we captured UBL, what would the administration do with him?

    They hate Gitmo! It would be too embarrassing for them.

    Holder would want to try him in NYC with the ACLU as his legal counsel.

    It was just easier to issue a “Hit” by the president…so much cleaner that way. And we all know that Predators’ can’t take any prisoners. We can call that a “HIT from above!”
    Personally, I have no problem with the president ordering a “Hit” – but his left wing will and they have already started.

    PS Client #9 – I wonder if he Negotiation as hard with Ashley Dupree and the others clients.

  • Rgentum

    tatboy said:
    Kind of like you’re side being heatbroken about tortureing these dirtbags. Now your all pro-war all of a sudden.

    Read something – anything – on the law of armed conflict. Go ahead. Please, I dare you. I promise, shooting a combatant in the head, on the battlefield, isn’t torture. It’s a lawful use of force. And that’s why it doesn’t break my heart.

  • BatBoy

    tatboy said:
    Now your all pro-war all of a sudden.

    Tat…that won’t last long…it is not in their DNA.

    Liberals talk a good game…but when it comes down to fighting….they always end up in the protest line….

    They have EVERYTIME for the last 40 years…..they just can’t help themselves.

  • Bill Huggins

    WAAAAhhhhhhhh

    I’M SO SAD I DIDN’T GET TO TORTURE BIN LADEN

    WAHHHHHHH I NEED MY BOTTLE

    I WANTED TO PLAY WITH HIS DING DONG AND DIDN’T GET TO WAHHHHHHH

  • http://pouredwithpleasure.com obillo

    Killing OBL wasn’t a mistake. A mistake would be not killing the rest of them.

  • http://pouredwithpleasure.com obillo

    Rgentum: “Republicans let OBL kill 3000 Americans”–LET? You’re sure you don’t mean ‘encoraged’ or ‘paid’ or ‘begged’? Just ‘let’? Was is all Repubs who did this or just those in elective ofc? Maybe the RNC?

    Good point, though, about “Then we get a President who wants to get us out of these ridiculous, money hemmorhaging crusades, and stop pouring money into the infrastructure of countries like Afghanistan, and start spending even a quarter of the money spent on Iraq and Afghanistan on American infrastructure”–be sure to let us know when he does any of that. Any.

    Meanwhile explain Michael Moore’s joining the sick lovefest. Or better, take a nap.

  • jrcmi

    Right-wingers criticized Obama over the way he has fought the wars Bush stuck him (and us) with. Now that Obama has successfully taken out a prime target of those wars, the right-wingers continue to complain.

    Bin Laden was not a head-of-state; he was an “enemy combatant” as well as their leader, as declared by Bush. His “mansion” was in fact a fortified bunker. Killing the enemy in his bunker is recognized as a standard warfare technique. If he had offered to surrender he could have been taken alive.

    I don’t blame the SEALs for killing him – not for one second. Bin Laden was the embodiment of evil and an imminent danger to all around him. His life wasn’t worth a fraction of that of any of the guys who went in after him. He ensured his own demise the day he killed his first innocent victim.

    John Yoo, his neocon pals and the far-right media can complain, deflect and obfuscate but their motives are suspect. Yoo seeks to polish his badly self-tarnished image. His neocon pals seek even greater power. Fakes “News” and the rest of the far-right media seek higher ratings – and more profits. Their sycophantic followers seek reassurance that Obama (along with anyone to the left of Genghis Khan) is really is as bad as they want so desperately to believe – facts be damned.

    Truths are not a priority for any of them.

    The Far Right will never be appeased. Never. Like petulant children, they will always find something to complain about. Some will do so for principles; many others for profit. Their hypocrisy, hatred and hubris will be their ultimate undoing – assuming they don’t destroy the country first.

  • jrcmi

    really is as bad

    Edit/preview, pleeze!

  • eingriff

    Osama outlived his usefulness and another source of inside information on al Qaeda was found, who works cheaper.

  • darladoon

    spitzer can run circles around pretty much anyone, but it’s particularly pleasurable to watch him eviscerate bush apologists.

    having said that, i wish mr. yoo the most intense pain and suffering in his next life

    he is a sick man

  • eingriff

    Hiring Yoo was a big mistake.

  • CanofSand

    Vindication: Three Controversial Bush Policies Help Take Down bin Laden
    http://townhall.com/columnists/guybenson/2011/05/05/vindication_three_controversial_bush_policies_help_take_down_bin_laden/page/full/

    “all three sources of these indispensible data points were direct or indirect results of Bush policies – EITs, Gitmo, and the Iraq war – that much of the American Left, including Barack Obama, fought tooth and nail”

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    Bush failed, Americans died, Republicans lied, Americans died — and Obama killed Bin Laden. End of Story

  • Glackin

    CanofSand said:
    Vindication: Three Controversial Bush Policies Help Take Down bin Laden
    http://townhall.com/columnists/guybenson/2011/05/05/vindication_three_controversial_bush_policies_help_take_down_bin_laden/page/full/

    “all three sources of these indispensible data points were direct or indirect results of Bush policies – EITs, Gitmo, and the Iraq war – that much of the American Left, including Barack Obama, fought tooth and nail”

    Your can is full of something besides sand.
    “Guy Benson” is a protege of Hannity. He was 16 on 9/11/01. His diplomatic skills don’t exist. He is a hack wannabe AM right wing-nut shock jock,
    WTF does “all three sources of these indispensable data points were direct or indirect results of Bush policies.” even MEAN!
    FACT: Bush closed the CIA section tasked with finding UBL in 2005.
    FACT: Obama’s first order to Panetta was to devise a plan within 30 days to find UBL.
    FACT: Bush did not find him .
    FACT: Obama did.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/George-Langley/602635535 George Langley

    As a retired Special Forces and Intelligence Officer, I would be happy to use John Yoo as a punching bag, starting by stringing him up by his thumbs and using then using brass knuckles.

    John Yoo has ZERO credibility when talking about military operations or intelligence gathering. I think he has also destroyed his credibility as a lawyer, too, but I don’t pretend to know his profession the way he pretends to know mine. John Yoo should be the biggest loser in the world, but I’m sure he is paid very well by some even bigger fools somewhere.

    His second guessing is insulting to all military personnel in every branch of service.

  • valkyrie101

    George Langley said:
    As a retired Special Forces and Intelligence Officer, I would be happy to use John Yoo as a punching bag, starting by stringing him up by his thumbs and using then using brass knuckles. John Yoo has ZERO credibility when talking about military operations or intelligence gathering. I think he has also destroyed his credibility as a lawyer, too, but I don’t pretend to know his profession the way he pretends to know mine. John Yoo should be the biggest loser in the world, but I’m sure he is paid very well by some even bigger fools somewhere. His second guessing is insulting to all military personnel in every branch of service.

    Bingo.

  • CAconservative

    Mr.Yoo’s slap-down of Spitzer was classic, and in doing so, he pretty much summed up the whole liberal press in the process. Spitzer, O’Donnell, and Matthews like to set the mode of argumentation at the very beginning as confrontational rather than objective if their man Obimbo’s decisions are in anyway being questioned. Mr.Yoo threw it back in Spitzer’s face, and at the same time, the entire Liberal-press.

  • valkyrie101

    CAconservative said:
    Mr.Yoo’s slap-down of Spitzer was classic, and in doing so, he pretty much summed up the whole liberal press in the process. Spitzer, O’Donnell, and Matthews like to set the mode of argumentation at the very beginning as confrontational rather than objective if their man Obimbo’s decisions are in anyway being questioned. Mr.Yoo threw it back in Spitzer’s face, and at the same time, the entire Liberal-press.

    So your view is that Obama screwed up with Usama?

  • george L

    I was stating that John Yoo is not a military expert, and his recommendations on military operations are worthless. He has superb credentials as a lawyer in the filed of international law, but not military operations. Or about what constitutes effective interrogation for that matter. He is only qualified to give advice on what is legal or illegal on those matters, and many other equally qualified lawyers can and do give opposing views.

    Google him, and you will find many articles and videos showing that he believes a president can do whatever he wants without the consent of Congress. Do you want that?

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