If hell does exist, I imagine it’s a room full of TVs all playing Chris Matthews.

Matthews (and TC) sure is tackling the vital interests of the day…
What’s the circulation of Time Magazine?

Matthews asked “Why does the right wing love the Old Testament so much?”

John McLaughlin, he ain’t…

Andrew “Truther/Birther” Sullivan flushed his credibility down the toilet years ago. Just like “9/11 Truther” VanJones and “Birther” Trump he is a joke. Only the left takes him seriously (kinda like that child molesting weapons inspector the left loved so much during the Bush years). Why do you (Tommy) continue to report on what this jackhole says without pointing out HIS Truther/Birther beliefs like you do with Obama “Birthers”? Why the double standard? Do we not deserve the same info on Sullivan’s “Truther/Birther” thoughts about Palin as we do Obama? Why for Obama “Birthers” and not Palin “Birthers”? Why???

What’s a devoted to the Almighty Dollar liberal activist Pastor to do if he ever expects to have 3 homes a Mercedes and a Jag?

RRK… If you reading today, just want to get your thought on this…

http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com/archives/2011/04/dsccs-mystery-c.php

Kind of off topic but I’m really curious…So the whole global warming things seem to divide along party lines..and on the right side those guys are usually really crazy for the Jesus thing and Rapture and Revelation etc etc….So…

1. Why is it so easy to believe in a invisible man in the sky, walking on water and coming back to kill a beast thats obsessed with the number 666? But man-made global warming? Imposssible!!! Why is this?

2. Is it because you think GOD will wiggle his finger and make evrything ok?

3. Is it because the world will end so it doesnt really matter anyway? It doesnt matter what we do to the Earth?(That seems really nihilistic)

4. If there is a invisible man up there, wouldn’t you want to take care of this amazing “creation”? Why are you so intent on poisoning and raping and killing everything he “made”? Wouldnt he be mad?

Hell is MSNBC.

Looney Tune Leftists wouldn’t know how to find God if he slapped them in the face, what a load of crap! Anyone who has ever had a personal experience with Our Lord Jesus, know that He exists, and if He exists, so does Satan and Hell.

Mosesdinoark said:
2. Is it because you think GOD will wiggle his finger and make evrything ok?

My guess is it’s this one. One doesn’t have to have a conscience if someone/thing else is there to clean up the mess.

Mosesdinoark said:
Kind of off topic but I’m really curious…So the whole global warming things seem to divide along party lines..and on the right side those guys are usually really crazy for the Jesus thing and Rapture and Revelation etc etc….So… 1. Why is it so easy to believe in a invisible man in the sky, walking on water and coming back to kill a beast thats obsessed with the number 666? But man-made global warming? Imposssible!!! Why is this? 2. Is it because you think GOD will wiggle his finger and make evrything ok? 3. Is it because the world will end so it doesnt really matter anyway? It doesnt matter what we do to the Earth?(That seems really nihilistic) 4. If there is a invisible man up there, wouldn’t you want to take care of this amazing “creation”? Why are you so intent on poisoning and raping and killing everything he “made”? Wouldnt he be mad?

5. Why do you guys trust a book written over 2000 years ago? The world was probably pretty scary back then and they didnt know how the world worked yet. I wouldn’t trust any dentistry procedures from back then so why the bible?

billwhit1357 said:
Looney Tune Leftists wouldn’t know how to find God if he slapped them in the face, what a load of crap! Anyone who has ever had a personal experience with Our Lord Jesus, know that He exists, and if He exists, so does Satan and Hell.

Wow. Im sure thats something Jesus would say. So typical holier than thou. Im sure Jesus talks to you evry day through your tin foil hat.

Kat said:
My guess is it’s this one. One doesn’t have to have a conscience if someone/thing else is there to clean up the mess.

Which perfectly explains why the welfare state is such an utter disaster.

Kat said:
My guess is it’s this one. One doesn’t have to have a conscience if someone/thing else is there to clean up the mess.

Lack of conscience is epidemic with the Right. Probably the answer unfortunately.

BadGenome said:
If hell does exist, I imagine it’s a room full of TVs all playing Chris Matthews.

Well, it would be Glenn Beck for me. Hmmm, haven’t seen a headline on him for days now. Maybe he is in a padded room full of Thorazine.

Thorazine (Chlorpromazine) is used to treat the symptoms of schizophrenia (a mental illness that causes disturbed or unusual thinking, loss of interest in life, and strong or inappropriate emotions) and other psychotic disorders (conditions that cause difficulty telling the difference between things or ideas that are real and things or ideas that are not real) and to treat the symptoms of mania (frenzied, abnormally excited mood) in people who have bipolar disorder (manic depressive disorder; a condition that causes episodes of mania, episodes of depression, and other abnormal moods

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0000553/

BadGenome said:
Which perfectly explains why the welfare state is such an utter disaster.

I won’t argue that it’s not. It does need some overhaul. But to rid it completely is to have no conscience or regard for your fellow human being in plight.

Kat said:
I won’t argue that it’s not. It does need some overhaul. But to rid it completely is to have no conscience or regard for your fellow human being in plight.

Jesus HATED the poor, HATED the dirty smelly poor! Right?
Or did I read that wrong?

Mosesdinoark said:
5. Why do you guys trust a book written over 2000 years ago? The world was probably pretty scary back then and they didnt know how the world worked yet. I wouldn’t trust any dentistry procedures from back then so why the bible?

Fear sells. (to some)

Mosesdinoark said:
Jesus HATED the poor, HATED the dirty smelly poor! Right?Or did I read that wrong?

Apparently we both read it wrong and most of my sunday school teachers too.

Mosesdinoark said:
Kind of off topic but I’m really curious…So the whole global warming things seem to divide along party lines..and on the right side those guys are usually really crazy for the Jesus thing and Rapture and Revelation etc etc….So…

1. Why is it so easy to believe in a invisible man in the sky, walking on water and coming back to kill a beast thats obsessed with the number 666? But man-made global warming? Imposssible!!! Why is this?

2. Is it because you think GOD will wiggle his finger and make evrything ok?

3. Is it because the world will end so it doesnt really matter anyway? It doesnt matter what we do to the Earth?(That seems really nihilistic)

4. If there is a invisible man up there, wouldn’t you want to take care of this amazing “creation”? Why are you so intent on poisoning and raping and killing everything he “made”? Wouldnt he be mad?

Nice try Barack.

The two empty headed apes, Klein and Sullivan , almost make Matthews seem semi intelligent .
But not quite .

Barack Must Go said:
Nice try Barack.

Im just trying to understand how the logic shakes out for the Team God people. Havent seen any answers yet.

NOBAMA 2012 said:
Matthews asked “Why does the right wing love the Old Testament so much?” Because it’s the WORD OF GOD…shezzzzzzzzzzz…isn’t this clown Matthews “supposed” to be a “Christian?” Oh, that’s right, he’s one of those CINO’s…(Christians in Name Only)…What an embarr-ass-ment…and on Palm Sunday no less…

Matthews is catholic. Catholics are a little more level headed in that they dont buy all Revelation nonsense. Just the SLIGHTLY more believable partsof the bible. The what Jesus had to SAY parts.

The lying, irresponsible, duplicitous, arrogant, tax cheating, anti-semitic, christian-hating, abortionist, misogynist, extremist, America-hating, self-serving, manipulative, evil, shallow, profane, race-baiting lunatic-left d-crat socialists should HOPE that there is no hell – because that’s where they’re going straight to when they finally leave their pathetic, despicable disgraceful existence on Earth.

Mosesdinoark said:
Kind of off topic but I’m really curious…So the whole global warming things seem to divide along party lines..and on the right side those guys are usually really crazy for the Jesus thing and Rapture and Revelation etc etc….So… 1. Why is it so easy to believe in a invisible man in the sky, walking on water and coming back to kill a beast thats obsessed with the number 666? But man-made global warming? Imposssible!!! Why is this? 2. Is it because you think GOD will wiggle his finger and make evrything ok? 3. Is it because the world will end so it doesnt really matter anyway? It doesnt matter what we do to the Earth?(That seems really nihilistic) 4. If there is a invisible man up there, wouldn’t you want to take care of this amazing “creation”? Why are you so intent on poisoning and raping and killing everything he “made”? Wouldnt he be mad?

You are Right. YOU are WAY off the subject and maybe you are Not really curious at all but just trying to get us to believe in global warming which is dumb. There is no invisible man in the sky but there is a spirit that should live within our hearts and this spirit ,God or Jesus or whoever you might believe in is within us all. From man before Christ until now have believed in something , sun,moon,stars, because their is something within us all. There are those who don’t believe but they are still good people who practice or feel they should treat other people with respect ,kindness, love and there are those who are non believers and some who once believed who are just evil but all will have to answer to someone, something, and themselves when time has run out and that day will come to all. My opinion for sure.
My opinion is the earth has been changing on it’s own millions of years and will continue to change a million more. Where did the ice age come from? Where did the dino’s go? The earth is changing with or without humans and we don’t need higher taxes to go all green when it won’t matter except to line the pockets of Washinton, Al Gore and many more.It would take every one living on earth in a tent from here on out and still there will be changes in the weather and earth, from cold to hot ,then hot to cold. There is no proof of global warming except in the minds of those who want to believe the government is telling us the truth. Who believes the government is telling us the truth? I sure don’t. Picking our pockets for more money, higher taxes, that’s the government, Human Greed is what hurts nature and the earth.

TeaPartyPatriot said:
The lying, irresponsible, duplicitous, arrogant, tax cheating, anti-semitic, christian-hating, abortionist, misogynist, extremist, America-hating, self-serving, manipulative, evil, shallow, profane, race-baiting lunatic-left d-crat socialists should HOPE that there is no hell – because that’s where they’re going straight to when they finally leave their pathetic, despicable disgraceful existence on Earth.

Again. Thats what JESUS was all about. So typical. Im sure you went to church this morning and was on your knees praying to your misshapened interpretation of “god”.

Yeah, and Morning Joe gave it about 90 seconds before, thankfully, letting it peter out. Really, why is a current events show discussing the existence of Hell, which is a myth.

We don’t live in a theocracy. That’s the kind of programing that belongs in the Middle East.

jo hoochie said:
You are Right. YOU are WAY off the subject and maybe you are Not really curious at all but just trying to get us to believe in global warming which is dumb. There is no invisible man in the sky but there is a spirit that should live within our hearts and this spirit ,God or Jesus or whoever you might believe in is within us all. From man before Christ until now have believed in something , sun,moon,stars, because their is something within us all. There are those who don’t believe but they are still good people who practice or feel they should treat other people with respect ,kindness, love and there are those who are non believers and some who once believed who are just evil but all will have to answer to someone, something, and themselves when time has run out and that day will come to all. My opinion for sure.My opinion is the earth has been changing on it’s own millions of years and will continue to change a million more. Where did the ice age come from? Where did the dino’s go? The earth is changing with or without humans and we don’t need higher taxes to go all green when it won’t matter except to line the pockets of Washinton, Al Gore and many more.It would take every one living on earth in a tent from here on out and still there will be changes in the weather and earth, from cold to hot ,then hot to cold. There is no proof of global warming except in the minds of those who want to believe the government is telling us the truth. Who believes the government is telling us the truth? I sure don’t. Picking our pockets for more money, higher taxes, that’s the government, Human Greed is what hurts nature and the earth.

Well at least youre not one of those people who think the earth is 5000 years old and the dinosaur bones were buried to test our faith. =p. But your rant sounds a little too much like O’Reilly’s “How do you explain the tides?”
Im sorry, but the fact is humans have dome more to change the Earth than nature ever has and there may be consequences that we need to adress. Im mean really.

Ill humor you a little bit..ok say man made global warming isnt real…but still..why cant we have clean air? Why cant our food water be safe? Why cant endangerd species be saved? Cant we be better than this?

Mosesdinoark said:
?”Im sorry, but the fact is humans have dome more to change the Earth than nature ever has and there may be consequences that we need to adress. Im mean really. Ill

that is the most stupid quote ever,

jo hoochie said:
You are Right. YOU are WAY off the subject and maybe you are Not really curious at all but just trying to get us to believe in global warming which is dumb.

And no. I am curious. I can not figure out why fairy tales overrule logic and/or science. Still nobody has been explain this.

cjd ohio 1 said:
that is the most stupid quote ever,

I should have said “but the fact is humans have done more to change the Earth in harmful ways…”

Mosesdinoark said:
I should have said “but the fact is humans have done more to change the Earth in harmful ways…”

ice ages, comets, moving land masses, …….do i think humans affect the enviroment..yes…..but to what degree i am not sure

Mosesdinoark said:
I should have said “but the fact is humans have done more to change the Earth in harmful ways…”

Yikes!

Ever hear of Geology?

cjd ohio 1 said:
ice ages, comets, moving land masses, …….do i think humans affect the enviroment..yes…..but to what degree i am not sure

How many more ecosystems need to be destroyed? How much oil and toxins have been dumped in the oceans? How much land has been contaminated by radiation? How long can we continue to overfish the oceans? How many more species need to become extinct? This has been going on for thousands of years and increasing with no end in sight. Somethings got to give.

Mosesdinoark said:
How many more ecosystems need to be destroyed? How much oil and toxins have been dumped in the oceans? How much land has been contaminated by radiation? How long can we continue to overfish the oceans? How many more species need to become extinct? This has been going on for thousands of years and increasing with no end in sight. Somethings got to give.

and many of the things you state happen before humans also,volcano, earthquakes, wildfires, part of it is nature that we cant control

skoorbekim said:
Yikes! Ever hear of Geology?

Yes. Geology is the study of the Earth, the materials of which it is made, the structure of those materials, and the processes acting upon them. It includes the study of organisms that have inhabited our planet. An important part of geology is the study of how Earth’s materials, structures, processes and organisms have changed over time.
Global warming is part of this.

Mosesdinoark said:
How many more ecosystems need to be destroyed? How much oil and toxins have been dumped in the oceans? How much land has been contaminated by radiation? How long can we continue to overfish the oceans? How many more species need to become extinct? This has been going on for thousands of years and increasing with no end in sight. Somethings got to give.

what is it 97% of plants and animals of this planet are extinct now. most happened before humans

Mosesdinoark said:
Yes. Geology is the study of the Earth, the materials of which it is made, the structure of those materials, and the processes acting upon them. It includes the study of organisms that have inhabited our planet. An important part of geology is the study of how Earth’s materials, structures, processes and organisms have changed over time.Global warming is part of this.

I didn’t ask you to define it… I’m imploring you to understand it…

Mosesdinoark said:
Yes. Geology is the study of the Earth, the materials of which it is made, the structure of those materials, and the processes acting upon them. It includes the study of organisms that have inhabited our planet. An important part of geology is the study of how Earth’s materials, structures, processes and organisms have changed over time.Global warming is part of this.

and climate changes have happened naturally over 4 billion years

cjd ohio 1 said:
and many of the things you state happen before humans also,volcano, earthquakes, wildfires, part of it is nature that we cant control

This is the point though: “Climate always changes from natural causes. What makes today special is that human causes have entered the mix…”

This is what WE can control

cjd ohio 1 said:
and climate changes have happened naturally over 4 billion years

And 4 billion years ago there wasnt 6 billion humans belching poison into the air.

Mosesdinoark said:
This is the point though: “Climate always changes from natural causes. What makes today special is that human causes have entered the mix…” This is what WE can control

but, people on the left just say man-made, and that is why the lose people on it

Mosesdinoark said:
And 4 billion years ago there wasnt 6 billion humans belching poison into the air.

and as i said man does affect natural, but alarmist go about trying to change minds the wrong way

Mosesdinoark said:
And 4 billion years ago there wasnt 6 billion humans belching poison into the air.

Wow!
Population control?!
Who do we kill off to “save” the earth?

cjd ohio 1 said:
but, people on the left just say man-made, and that is why the lose people on it

Why? Do the right hate the word “responsible’? They love the word when it concerns abortion or welfare.

Mosesdinoark said:
Why? Do the right hate the word “responsible’? They love the word when it concerns abortion or welfare.

Conservatives love people…

Mosesdinoark said:
Why? Do the right hate the word “responsible’? They love the word when it concerns abortion or welfare.

dont try to change the subject, are we responsible for climate change or is it a combination of man and nature?

But anyway what I was really trying to understand was why Jesus freaks like Senator Inhofe scream that man made global warming cant be real, but his fairy tales that god will save us are not laughed at.

cjd ohio 1 said:
dont try to change the subject, are we responsible for climate change or is it a combination of man and nature?

Man is the PART of nature increasing the severity of the situation.

Mosesdinoark said:
Man is the PART of nature increasing the severity of the situation.

more severve than ice ages, volcanos, when the planet was more tropical than it is now, you give man more credit than it deserves,

you are missing my point, should we try to reduce the pollution and toxins we produce…..of course, but the left keeps crying wolf……and after time people dont listen

cjd ohio 1 said:
you are missing my point, should we try to reduce the pollution and toxins we produce…..of course, but the left keeps crying wolf……and after time people dont listen

Amen to that!!

cjd ohio 1 said:
you are missing my point, should we try to reduce the pollution and toxins we produce…..of course, but the left keeps crying wolf……and after time people dont listen

WHAT? So get rid of the EPA like the right wants. That will help I’m sure.

Mosesdinoark said:
WHAT? So get rid of the EPA like the right wants. That will help I’m sure.

you are a extremist, no use talking sorry

cjd ohio 1 said:
you are a extremist, no use talking sorry

LOL! Because I think the EPA might be a good idea? That is rich! LOL!

Mosesdinoark said:
LOL! Because I think the EPA might be a good idea? That is rich! LOL!

no, but you are funny, most people are in the center, common sense, which you seem to lack

Mosesdinoark said:
Kind of off topic but I’m really curious…So the whole global warming things seem to divide along party lines..and on the right side those guys are usually really crazy for the Jesus thing and Rapture and Revelation etc etc….So… 1. Why is it so easy to believe in a invisible man in the sky, walking on water and coming back to kill a beast thats obsessed with the number 666? But man-made global warming? Imposssible!!! Why is this? 2. Is it because you think GOD will wiggle his finger and make evrything ok? 3. Is it because the world will end so it doesnt really matter anyway? It doesnt matter what we do to the Earth?(That seems really nihilistic) 4. If there is a invisible man up there, wouldn’t you want to take care of this amazing “creation”? Why are you so intent on poisoning and raping and killing everything he “made”? Wouldnt he be mad?

Still nothing from the bible thumpers…nothing? Conver me please!

cjd ohio 1 said:
you are a extremist, no use talking sorry

Right again!!

jo hoochie said:
Right again!!

glad you admit it

cjd ohio 1 said:
no, but you are funny, most people are in the center, common sense, which you seem to lack

Its funnier that you are so 100% certain too. Have you ever read anything about it? Are you a scientist? Did you study this? Did you write resarch papers on this? Why are so 100% sure of yourself?

Mosesdinoark said:
Its funnier that you are so 100% certain too. Have you ever read anything about it? Are you a scientist? Did you study this? Did you write resarch papers on this? Why are so 100% sure of yourself?

sure of what? you are the one sure its man-made

cjd ohio 1 said:
ice ages, comets, moving land masses, …….do i think humans affect the enviroment..yes…..but to what degree i am not sure

You had better study some science. It does not take much of a change to create major climate change on earth, This is not much disagreement among scientists around the world who have studied the issue. We are changing the planets ecosystem and the results could be catastrophic. This is not really a topic open for debate. The ship has already sailed. It is amazing that there are still people either naive to willfully living in denial about this reality. Why even have this ridiculous discussion. You can convince dumb people to think, read land learn.

Mosesdinoark said:
Still nothing from the bible thumpers…nothing? Conver me please!

You’re just another progressive that turned your atheism into a religon(Militant Atheist), Effectively making yourself a living oxymoron.

You fail to see that you are no better than the “bible thumpers” you hate.

Resistance Is Futile said:
You had better study some science. It does not take much of a change to create major climate change on earth, This is not much disagreement among scientists around the world who have studied the issue. We are changing the planets ecosystem and the results could be catastrophic. This is not really a topic open for debate. The ship has already sailed. It is amazing that there are still people either naive to willfully living in denial about this reality. Why even have this ridiculous discussion. You can convince dumb people to think, read land learn.

yeah and science says eggs are good for you, no they are bad, no wait they are good again, science changes the more we learn

Resistance Is Futile said:
You had better study some science. It does not take much of a change to create major climate change on earth, This is not much disagreement among scientists around the world who have studied the issue. We are changing the planets ecosystem and the results could be catastrophic. This is not really a topic open for debate. The ship has already sailed. It is amazing that there are still people either naive to willfully living in denial about this reality. Why even have this ridiculous discussion. You can convince dumb people to think, read land learn.

and 30 years ago, scientists said there was no possible life in our solar system other than us…….the more we learn

jo hoochie said:
You are Right. YOU are WAY off the subject and maybe you are Not really curious at all but just trying to get us to believe in global warming which is dumb. There is no invisible man in the sky but there is a spirit that should live within our hearts and this spirit ,God or Jesus or whoever you might believe in is within us all. From man before Christ until now have believed in something , sun,moon,stars, because their is something within us all. There are those who don’t believe but they are still good people who practice or feel they should treat other people with respect ,kindness, love and there are those who are non believers and some who once believed who are just evil but all will have to answer to someone, something, and themselves when time has run out and that day will come to all. My opinion for sure.My opinion is the earth has been changing on it’s own millions of years and will continue to change a million more. Where did the ice age come from? Where did the dino’s go? The earth is changing with or without humans and we don’t need higher taxes to go all green when it won’t matter except to line the pockets of Washinton, Al Gore and many more.It would take every one living on earth in a tent from here on out and still there will be changes in the weather and earth, from cold to hot ,then hot to cold. There is no proof of global warming except in the minds of those who want to believe the government is telling us the truth. Who believes the government is telling us the truth? I sure don’t. Picking our pockets for more money, higher taxes, that’s the government, Human Greed is what hurts nature and the earth.

Thank you so much, Jo Hoochie, for a wonderful, articulate comment! Everyone should cut & paste this and send it through the Internet. So many intelligent, common sense writings not getting the publicity they deserve.

Mosesdinoark said:
How many more ecosystems need to be destroyed? How much oil and toxins have been dumped in the oceans? How much land has been contaminated by radiation? How long can we continue to overfish the oceans? How many more species need to become extinct? This has been going on for thousands of years and increasing with no end in sight. Somethings got to give.

How much horse shit was all over our streets at the turn of the century? How many of our rivers were polluted with human waste causing all kinds of epedemics? How many outhouses were in back yards just 100 years ago? This never ends….

Mosesdinoark said:
Still nothing from the bible thumpers…nothing? Conver me please!

No, sorry, no Bible thumpers, just devoted Christians who love and worship God.

Like the radical, islmanic, America-hating muslims they admire and support, the lunatic-left d-crat socialists think that when they die they will go to Allah’s “heaven” and enjoy 72 virgins. But here’s the catch in that – the “virgins” they’ll get all look like fat oprah (who, technically, is a “virgin” having never done it with a man). Imagine having to spend eternity cavorting with 72 fat oprahs ! If that’s not hell, nothing is.

Don’t worry, Chris, you and your panel will be there soon enough.

Hell has come to us on earth, the people who brought are the tea party. They have been spreading their stupidity and greed to unsuspecting bigots for two years now. God, please show us how to get rid of them!

jo hoochie said:
Right again!!

Hope you didn’t think I was saying you was the extremist. No way, it is Mosesdinoark!

jo hoochie said:
Hope you didn’t think I was saying you was the extremist. No way, it is Mosesdinoark!

no jo, i understand what you meant, no harm ,no foul

jo hoochie said:
Hope you didn’t think I was saying you was the extremist. No way, it is Mosesdinoark!

cjd ohio I’ll get it right in a minute! Ö)

Georgia999 said:
Thank you so much, Jo Hoochie, for a wonderful, articulate comment! Everyone should cut & paste this and send it through the Internet. So many intelligent, common sense writings not getting the publicity they deserve.

Thank You !! Ö)

Two Muslims stop a man walking down the road and ask ” What is your religion?”

The man says “I’m an Atheist.”

The Muslims look at each other and then ask the man, “Shia Atheist or Sunni Atheist.”

Georgia999 said:
How much horse shit was all over our streets at the turn of the century? How many of our rivers were polluted with human waste causing all kinds of epedemics? How many outhouses were in back yards just 100 years ago? This never ends….

Ugh. Its like arguing with a two year old. Impossible. Just so ignorant its really sad.

Georgia999 said:
No, sorry, no Bible thumpers, just devoted Christians who love and worship God.

Blah Blah. When someone questions you, run for the flag or the bible and scream louder than everyone else.

Mosesdinoark said:
And 4 billion years ago there wasnt 6 billion humans belching poison into the air.

True; instead we had massive volcanos belching poison into the air.

So, Time magazine has a cover story taking a dump on traditional Christianity?

Let me check the calendar…

Yup, it’s Holy Week.

Here’s a thought: why don’t they try something different and trash Islam during Ramadan?

If you had a feeling that the person you worshiped with a ‘tingle’ were heading for Hell, you’d try to pretend it must not exist, either.

fenngibbon said:
So, Time magazine has a cover story taking a dump on traditional Christianity? Let me check the calendar… Yup, it’s Holy Week. Here’s a thought: why don’t they try something different and trash Islam during Ramadan?

They are scared they might hear a loud BOOM in their building. Easier to trash Christians!!

What Hell ?
With nearly 25000 gods worshipped so far on earth, see”Guide to the Gods ” by Marjorie Leech there should be some debate on the existence of heaven and hell.
Although my Hindu friends say ther are between 3.3 million and 6 million gods, take your pick…..Cheers

fenngibbon said:
So, Time magazine has a cover story taking a dump on traditional Christianity?

Let me check the calendar…

Yup, it’s Holy Week.

Here’s a thought: why don’t they try something different and trash Islam during Ramadan?

My friend, it seems you have missed the the point of at least a good part of the story of Holy Week…

Who was out to get Jesus? Who was out threatened by what He did and say?

Was it not the “traditionalists” and conservative political and religious elements of His time?

Christians need to quit whining for every time someone questions their beliefs, and start making sure they are KNOWN for doing the works that He did.

TeaPartyPatriot said:
The lying, irresponsible, duplicitous, arrogant, tax cheating, anti-semitic, christian-hating, abortionist, misogynist, extremist, America-hating, self-serving, manipulative, evil, shallow, profane, race-baiting lunatic-left d-crat socialists should HOPE that there is no hell – because that’s where they’re going straight to when they finally leave their pathetic, despicable disgraceful existence on Earth.

Christian are you?

5 thumbs down but no answer? Can anyone answer me? Is this Christian? Are there any real Christians out here?

“The lying, irresponsible, duplicitous, arrogant, tax cheating, anti-semitic, christian-hating, abortionist, misogynist, extremist, America-hating, self-serving, manipulative, evil, shallow, profane, race-baiting lunatic-left d-crat socialists should HOPE that there is no hell – because that’s where they’re going straight to when they finally leave their pathetic, despicable disgraceful existence on Earth.”

“Rewards and punishments are the lowest form of education.” – Chuang Tzu, @ 300 BC

Mosesdinoark said:
Im just trying to understand how the logic shakes out for the Team God people. Havent seen any answers yet.

There have been several arguments which attempt to “prove” the existence of god. One of the “unsettled” ones is Pascal’s Wager and it doesn’t attempt to prove the existence of god but rather encourage belief in on. I find it to be interesting to debate as well for there are many angles with which to approach it. To paraphrase it goes something like this:

It’s important to note that Pascal was a christian therefore his wager is that of a belief or not in a christian god.

A: God exists AND I DO believe = Good (Afterlife, Heaven, Trumpets, etc…)
B: God exists AND I DON’T believe = Bad (Hell, Burning, Horns, etc…)
C: No God exists AND I DO believe = None (Neutral, no win/no loss)
D: No God exists AND I DO not believe = None

Therefore it’s better to believe in a God then not to. Pascal makes clear that he feels his argument, should it prove affective, that one should not simply say “I believe in god, problem solved.” but rather pursue avenues which may cultivate a true belief.

There are a number of ways to attack this argument. One of my personal favorites is to attack his assumption which can work in correlation with the “Evil Problem”. How can he assert that god is “good”. Perhaps this is a test and those who choose not to believe in a deity for which there is no scientifically observable evidence for are rewarded for their commitment to understanding and observing “God’s creation”. There are many others and they make for lively discussions!

Mosesdinoark said:
And no. I am curious. I can not figure out why fairy tales overrule logic and/or science. Still nobody has been explain this.

Religion dates back to the dawn of human culture, to my knowledge (google) is around 2 million years ago. That’s a long time in human terms. “Modern” science or rather the scientific method has only been around since Aristotle’s time in the 300+ BC range. There maybe a cultural component to belief in superstition.

There is also the idea that humans are sensitive to superstition because of the way the brain operates. Our assumptions about things that we sort of take for granted such as people, self, animal are deeply nested in our minds and experiences that differ greatly from these assumptions cause deep and lasting impressions in our memory.

The reason for such wide spread superstition belief is on going.

runningBot said:
Religion dates back to the dawn of human culture, to my knowledge (google) is around 2 million years ago. That’s a long time in human terms. “Modern” science or rather the scientific method has only been around since Aristotle’s time in the 300+ BC range. There maybe a cultural component to belief in superstition. There is also the idea that humans are sensitive to superstition because of the way the brain operates. Our assumptions about things that we sort of take for granted such as people, self, animal are deeply nested in our minds and experiences that differ greatly from these assumptions cause deep and lasting impressions in our memory. The reason for such wide spread superstition belief is on going.

2 million years? human? lol

The first unquestionable stone tools were evidently made and used by early transitional humans and possibly Australopithecus garhi in East Africa about 2.5-2.4 million years ago. While the earliest sites with these tools are from the Gona River Region of Ethiopia, simple tools of this kind were first discovered by Mary and Louis Leakey associated with Homo habilis at Olduvai Gorge in Tanzania. Hence, they were named Oldowan click this icon to hear the preceding term pronounced tools after that location. These early toolmakers were selective in choosing particular rock materials for their artifacts. They usually chose hard water-worn creek cobbles made out of volcanic rock.

My mistake “transitional humans”.

runningBot said:
The first unquestionable stone tools were evidently made and used by early transitional humans and possibly Australopithecus garhi in East Africa about 2.5-2.4 million years ago. While the earliest sites with these tools are from the Gona River Region of Ethiopia, simple tools of this kind were first discovered by Mary and Louis Leakey associated with Homo habilis at Olduvai Gorge in Tanzania. Hence, they were named Oldowan click this icon to hear the preceding term pronounced tools after that location. These early toolmakers were selective in choosing particular rock materials for their artifacts. They usually chose hard water-worn creek cobbles made out of volcanic rock. My mistake “transitional humans”.

are you sure they branch to be the humans of today, since the neanderthal died off

I don’t see the relevance your line of questioning has to the point I was trying to illustrate. However to remove any further concern allow me to rephrase my original opening sentence as there is no edit button.

runningBot said:
Religion dates back to the dawn of human culture around 200,000 years ago. That’s a long time in human terms…

That should clear things up.

runningBot said:
I don’t see the relevance your line of questioning has to the point I was trying to illustrate. However to remove any further concern allow me to rephrase my original opening sentence as there is no edit button. That should clear things up.

2 million years and 200,000 years are two different things, stick to facts

Well of course he’s debating it….he’s in it.

He is obese, unattractive, derided as a joke and has a major case of the hotties to become Obama’s snicker licker. That tingle doesn’t stop at his leg…..uhum.

TeaPartyPatriot said:
The lying, irresponsible, duplicitous, arrogant, tax cheating, anti-semitic, christian-hating, abortionist, misogynist, extremist, America-hating, self-serving, manipulative, evil, shallow, profane, race-baiting lunatic-left d-crat socialists should HOPE that there is no hell – because that’s where they’re going straight to when they finally leave their pathetic, despicable disgraceful existence on Earth.

While no sensible person believes in a literal hell, I think we all can conceive of personal hells (one to a customer) in which tortured, deranged people like yourself live. I’m sure it’s quite uncomfortable, but for some reason I can’t summon up much sympathy for you. Burn, baby, burn!

cjd ohio 1 said:
and many of the things you state happen before humans also,volcano, earthquakes, wildfires, part of it is nature that we cant control

Wildfires caused overfishing and radiation releases prior to the appearance of man? You need to be a bit more selective.

While destructive natural events have occured since the beginning of the solar system, some things (like overfishing and the release of enriched radioactive materials) could not have occurred without human interaction. It’s that input from human beings that’s being discussed as part of the climate change issue, and how we mitigate or eliminate that destructive input.

cjd ohio 1 said:
but, people on the left just say man-made, and that is why the lose people on it

“People on the left” may misstate the complexity of climate change components (anyone can misspeak), but the body of climate change scientists and informed laymen who speak of it are generally pretty precise.

Maybe you’re projecting again.

fenngibbon said:
True; instead we had massive volcanos belching poison into the air.

Yeah, and how did that work out for the life forms present when all those volcanoes were erupting?

They’re extinct.

runningBot said:
There have been several arguments which attempt to “prove” the existence of god. One of the “unsettled” ones is Pascal’s Wager and it doesn’t attempt to prove the existence of god but rather encourage belief in on. I find it to be interesting to debate as well for there are many angles with which to approach it. To paraphrase it goes something like this: It’s important to note that Pascal was a christian therefore his wager is that of a belief or not in a christian god. A: God exists AND I DO believe = Good (Afterlife, Heaven, Trumpets, etc…)B: God exists AND I DON’T believe = Bad (Hell, Burning, Horns, etc…)C: No God exists AND I DO believe = None (Neutral, no win/no loss)D: No God exists AND I DO not believe = None Therefore it’s better to believe in a God then not to. Pascal makes clear that he feels his argument, should it prove affective, that one should not simply say “I believe in god, problem solved.” but rather pursue avenues which may cultivate a true belief. There are a number of ways to attack this argument. One of my personal favorites is to attack his assumption which can work in correlation with the “Evil Problem”. How can he assert that god is “good”. Perhaps this is a test and those who choose not to believe in a deity for which there is no scientifically observable evidence for are rewarded for their commitment to understanding and observing “God’s creation”. There are many others and they make for lively discussions!

It’s a form of risk management. On balance you have a better statistical chance of a favorable outcome (after death) if you believe in god.

Pretty weak sauce, IMO, but it entertains.

mediadoubt said:
Wildfires caused overfishing and radiation releases prior to the appearance of man? You need to be a bit more selective.

While destructive natural events have occured since the beginning of the solar system, some things (like overfishing and the release of enriched radioactive materials) could not have occurred without human interaction. It’s that input from human beings that’s being discussed as part of the climate change issue, and how we mitigate or eliminate that destructive input.

You got 7 thumbs down for this. It boggles! lol

ellie said:
You got 7 thumbs down for this. It boggles! lol

Yep. The outpatients are out in force tonight.

mediadoubt said:
Yep. The outpatients are out in force tonight.

And they vote!

Every last stinking one of them!

ellie said:
Every last stinking one of them!

At least here. It’s not sure they’ll turn up in November 2011.

mediadoubt said:
At least here. It’s not sure they’ll turn up in November 2011.

are you sure you shouldnt be out looking for little boys to lure into ur van?? I think i saw ur picture on a megans law poster. LOL

jamesjones4444 said:
are you sure you shouldnt be out looking for little boys to lure into ur van?? I think i saw ur picture on a megans law poster. LOL

You guys sure do love to project perversion fantasies. You can’t get rid of them that way. It just doesn’t work like that.

Chris will certainly find out, someday. One of the hotter areas still available is reserved for him.

jamesjones4444 said:
are you sure you shouldnt be out looking for little boys to lure into ur van?? I think i saw ur picture on a megans law poster. LOL

Laughing at your own jokes? Pretty feeble.

In days of old, stories of hellfire and brimstone weren’t just motivational vehicles, they made great entertainment. These days, we have horror movies, we don’t really need the sulfuric sermoning as much. Another factor is the fact that we live in a modern society replete with amusements and distractions. If you’re in Church, there’s a good chance that you really believe it.

It’s people like Matthews that make Satan say to God, “Let’s rethink that deal we made about who goes where.”

mediadoubt said:
“People on the left” may misstate the complexity of climate change components (anyone can misspeak), but the body of climate change scientists and informed laymen who speak of it are generally pretty precise. Maybe you’re projecting again.

maybe you dont know what you are talking about

mediadoubt said:
Wildfires caused overfishing and radiation releases prior to the appearance of man? You need to be a bit more selective. While destructive natural events have occured since the beginning of the solar system, some things (like overfishing and the release of enriched radioactive materials) could not have occurred without human interaction. It’s that input from human beings that’s being discussed as part of the climate change issue, and how we mitigate or eliminate that destructive input.

overfishing causes climate change?

ellie said:
mediadoubt said:
Yep. The outpatients are out in force tonight.
And they vote!

Case in point our current WH tenant. LOL

It always amazes me the lemmings that want everyone to “keep your hands off my uterus” enjoy telling Christians they are “superstitious” or whatever term is the bash de jour. Let them believe what they want without the hate. But that’s the left’s MO.

As Al Gore said, all the rest of us shouldn’t use up so much energy.

cjd ohio 1 said:
overfishing causes climate change?

It was a point I brought up to Illustratre mans negative affect on the enviroment because most of you believe the whole “mans dominion over creation’ thing.

mediadoubt said:
Laughing at your own jokes? Pretty feeble.

Its thier usual M.O. When things don’t go there way or they cant win an argument, make personal attacks or yell and change the subject. Much like a six year old sticking his fingers in ears yelling “I CANT HEAR YOU LA LA LA LA LA!!!”

Mosesdinoark said:
It was a point I brought up to Illustratre mans negative affect on the enviroment because most of you believe the whole “mans dominion over creation’ thing.

most of you? never assume

Penguin60 said:
Case in point our current WH tenant. LOL

It always amazes me the lemmings that want everyone to “keep your hands off my uterus” enjoy telling Christians they are “superstitious” or whatever term is the bash de jour. Let them believe what they want without the hate. But that’s the left’s MO.

Maybe you should have actually followed the conversation then you’d know we were not talking about what you’re whining about. Just a thought.

Mosesdinoark said:
Its thier usual M.O. When things don’t go there way or they cant win an argument, make personal attacks or yell and change the subject. Much like a six year old sticking his fingers in ears yelling “I CANT HEAR YOU LA LA LA LA LA!!!”

I wasnt trying to argue about shit. I never said nothing about the topic. I was just stating my opinion that this guy’s picture looks just like this picture i saw in a newspaper ad about child molestors. I dont give two shits about yall arguing back and forth about heaven and hell. I just love that i found an awesome picture of Chester. And by the way, 2012 is the year of Ross Perot. Yea i said it. He is back from Hades so when he gets elected he will set yall straight about this whole issue.

Oh yea i forgot ( inserts fingers in ears) ” I CANT HEAR YOU LA LA LA LA LA !!!!!

ellie said:
Maybe you should have actually followed the conversation then you’d know we were not talking about what you’re whining about. Just a thought.

The first sentence was directed at you and the other lemming.
You didn’t even need to duck as the point went right over your head. LOL