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Gridlock! President Obama Holding Three Traffic-Snarling Fundraisers On Same Night As Tree Lighting

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Anyone who has ever tried to attend the Rockefeller Center Christmas Tree Lighting in New York City will give you the same advice: don’t go. You won’t get close enough to see the tree, you’re barricaded in with groups of people pushing to get closer, it’s nearly impossible to navigate your way through the crowds, and getting there is a hassle, as traffic is snarled and roads are blocked off. So the fact that President Obama has decided to visit New York City on the same night as the Tree Lighting, to attend three fundraisers, has millions of residents angry as they hopelessly stare down a double-dose of unimaginable gridlock.

Donald Trump hammered President Obama in an appearance Tuesday night on the Fox Business Network for not respecting the troubles this will cause most New Yorkers during rush hour. He didn’t mince words. “It’s very inconsiderate of the President to come into New York and have a fundraiser during the Christmas tree lighting,” Trump told David Asman on Power & Money. “Thousands and thousands of people come to see the lighting; they’re not going to be able to move. There’s going to be total gridlock, the streets are going to be closed because the President’s in town. I think it’s a very nasty move by the President.”

A New York Post editorial asked why the President had to pick tonight, of all nights, to hold three fundraisers that could have been scheduled for another day (although WNYC claims that only the first two events are fundraisers; the third is a “holiday reception”). The paper warned that entire city blocks will turn into parking lots:

“With just a little less arrogance, and a little more consideration, on the part of the president and his political team, the whole mess could have been avoided.”

There’s no real way to describe just how bad traffic will be. Think of when a four-lane highway is shut down to just one lane, with an accident on the other side of the road that everyone slows down to look at, and every other car suddenly runs out of gas and stops. And then two miles down, someone decided to build a large brick wall across the entire highway. For at least four hours, that’s what traffic is going to be like in New York City tonight, because of the double whammy. “Gridlock” Sam Schwartz, a traffic expert and former New York traffic commissioner, tweeted Wednesday morning that it would be the, “gridlock alert day of the decade.”

“Anybody that travels into midtown Manhattan with a car [Wednesday] should have their head examined,” Schwartz told amny‘s Marc Beja. “You will see major gridlock like you haven’t seen in a long time.”

Is all the traffic going to be Obama’s fault? No. But he could have taken some steps to avoid the 1-2 punch of his presence closing streets while the tree lighting blocks even more. New Yorkers are certainly angry with him — and will likely get angrier as horns honk and intersections are blocked en masse Wednesday evening — but the President probably won’t have too much to worry about in terms of turning off voters. In 2008, Obama won Manhattan’s popular vote over John McCain by a whopping 77% — 88.2% to 11.3%. So unless he does something incredibly insane — like direct his advance team to chop down the tree and build a statue of him in Rockefeller Center instead, don’t expect the anger to linger for much longer than a few days.

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  • Anonymous

    It’s even worse:

    They haven’t announced the truck route for the styrofoam Greek columns that he travels with.

    Obama’s arrogance far outweighs any common sense he may once have had.

    This is a guy who put out two books about himself, before he had done anything.
    A guy who named his dog after himself, a guy with a butler to carry his mints.

    That’s Our Barry !

  • Anonymous

    THIS JUST IN !! 

    King Obama has decreed that he will calm the small people down and donate one of his Mao Tse Tung “Holiday” ornaments to the tree. And thus the issue is solved, so sayeth the King.

  • Anonymous

    Haha I remember living near LA and everyone would freak out about the President coming because it stalled traffic forevah. Don’t mess with city folks that already have a long commute (my standard commute was 1.5 hours out there). This is why the Bamster was never good at executive decision making.

  • Anonymous

    The only thing this narcistic idiot cares about is getting his ass elected again…..what a fricking disgrace!!

  • Anonymous

    Obama’s arrogance allows him to jerk his people around because he knows they’ll vote for him again. Put it in park, Manhattan, you voted for him. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mark-Williams/100000431800956 Mark Williams

    I guess I never realized just how petty “right-wingers” could be until I read the comments on this article. But then again its a perfect illustration of why the GOP is still not ready to lead-when an blog post about traffic patterns brings out the kind of nonsense in the comments above its clear that our republican brothers and sisters are still suffering from the wounds and arrows that were hurled at President Bush several years ago.
    Its sad that they’ve learned nothing constructive and have in fact adapted the very behavior they routinely decry.  

  • Anonymous

    Whether it was Bush or Obama, people don’t like their already long commutes disrupted.

    This is not a right or left issue. This is a commonsense issue. Commutes in places like LA are already long. I remember when he came to the Milwaukee area (a less rare visit from a President) and everyone was talking about how their commute was sooooo long. Sorry, but Milwaukee County is Democratic and so there was no care for Right or Left but “Get me there!”

    Stop seeing everything in a right and left prism.

  • Henry Wood

    We must impeach Obama for his Marxist fundraisers.

    You could take the subway…but the subway is socialism!

    No wonder conservatives are all losing their tiny little minds.

  • Anonymous

    “He’s kind of a dick.”

  • Anonymous

    Can this Guy please do some work! He seems more worried about his next four years then doing something this year!

    Every time I hear anything president Zero is either campaigning or attending parties or playing golf. This president needs to focus on his job…..he was elected to do!  

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mark-Williams/100000431800956 Mark Williams

    I like how you rush to say this is not a right or left issue when ALL of the comments above mine on this thread were made by angry right wingers with something negative to say about President Obama. Your post seems to make a connect between POTUS travel and executive
    decision making ability. That’s utterly ridiculous and nothing more than
    a partisan attack. And yet I’m seeing things through a right/left prism. That’s funny!

    I lived in Washington DC for 30 years -a city with some of the worst traffic in the nation and not once was POTUS travel an issue that people felt the need to politicize-and that went for both Republican and Democratic administrations. This isn’t a “commonsense issue” this is a non issue dredged up by petty partisans.

    Petty Right Wing Partisans.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mark-Williams/100000431800956 Mark Williams

    In a story about POTUS travel right wingers call President Obama a “narcissist”, “arrogant”, a “jerk” a “disgrace”, a “dick” and infer that he’s a communist and question his executive making ability.

    Can you imagine what they would be saying if he did something they REALLY were opposed to?

    I think you can my friend!

    Cheer

  • Anonymous

    It isn’t only “right-wingers” who are dissatisfied with the incompetent one….maybe you haven’t seen his new low polling of only 43%.
    PMSBC and the other biased lame stream media outlets such as Mediaite must not provide their audiences with anything negative about their plastic messiah other wise you would have known this!!

  • Anonymous

    Obviously you are one of the under-informed 43% ers that still support the incompetent one!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mark-Williams/100000431800956 Mark Williams

    First of all 43% is actually higher than the last polls I looked at and far better than the previous POTUS at this time in his second term-so nothing special there. On the other hand President Obama still beats every member of the GOP field in hypothetical polling match-ups. I guess that disappointment-which I too feel-does not translate into votes for a Republican POTUS. 

    So I guess you feel it is your patriotic duty to dive into the “lame stream media” an present your cogent and well thought out rebuttals? If that was your intent on your previous post regarding President Obama’s “narcissism” you failed spectacularly.   

  • Anonymous

    You lived in a part of the nation where POTUS driving and his security detail was common. You accepted that. Places like LA and NY don’t. Sorry, but you’re the one making this a partisan issue.

    Listen to any radio program out in LA about the commute time when the POTUS of VPOTUS comes. It’s always discussed.

  • Anonymous

    So please explain to me the practicality of him having three engagements on the same night versus you know, actually trying to fix our debt crisis? Is Obama THAT worried about his re-election that he can’t give up a special night to the local residents of the city? Think practically. Think of revenue dollars lost because people don’t want to deal with the hassle.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mark-Williams/100000431800956 Mark Williams

    You realize you’re saying that LA and NY aren’t “used to POTUS travel” or aren’t used to politicians driving with their security details-is an insane position.I’m going to guess you’ve never been to New York anytime in the last ten years. On top of that LA has the worst traffic in the country so any big event make things worse. The 405 is a nightmare and Obama has nothing to do with that. Sorry.

     And no you made it a partisan issue with post connecting “POTUS travel” with executive decision making ability. That is not a serious argument but a partisan position. Sorry you can’t admit that to yourself. 

  • Anonymous

    Oblamer in chief is polling worse than Jimmy one term Carter at this point in time!! Just think if the biased lame stream media actually disclosed how high the real unemployment numbers are under this disgraceful incompetent loser in the WH?

    It isn’t about who is running against the incompetent one, it’s about the economy and Oblamers inability to fix it!

  • Anonymous

    Actually, the 405 is a fine highway and as I said, I drove it many times. I lived in Long Beach and commuted the 1.5 hour commute (mind you, that’s only one way) daily. I prefer the highway system to other highways that I’ve driven. I don’t know where you get the idea that the 405 is a nightmare as it’s a feeder-type highway system. It’s one of the things that CA has done right in my opinion. Other than time, it’s a good highway.

    I don’t know about NY. I am only commenting on my experience in WI and LA as those are my experiences. The POTUS trip was always discussed as a “hassle” issue by normal people. This isn’t a partisan topic. YOU are the one making it a partisan topic. People would complain if Bush did the same thing. You are the one with the partisan prism.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mark-Williams/100000431800956 Mark Williams

    “Just think if the biased lame stream media actually disclosed how high
    the real unemployment numbers are under this disgraceful incompetent
    loser in the WH?”

    Ah the “real” numbers. I see. I think we are done here. Enjoy your afternoon.

  • Anonymous

    Why would you compare BO’s 1st term stats with Bush’s 2nd term?  Bush was over 55% at this point in his first term.  Sorry if the facts are an inconvenience to you.

  • Anonymous

    The biggest take away from this story is that this is a glaring example of how out of touch Washington and politicians are.It would have been pretty simple to have thought this out and avoided it but evidentially nobody did any thinking at all.

    If DC and the President can’t even avoid causing a traffic nightmare that could have been largely avoided,what else will happen because of a lack of thought and consideration?

    This may look like a less than huge issue but this goes to mindset and the thinking process,to how the rest of the country and it’s people are viewed by DC.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mark-Williams/100000431800956 Mark Williams

    “So please explain to me the practicality of him having three engagements
    on the same night versus you know, actually trying to fix our debt
    crisis? ”

    Is that what you mean about executive decision making? Yes all it would take is one night. that’s not even close to being logical. You might be able to make the argument that 3 in one night is too many but to conflate complex policy issues shows you don’t have a good knowledge of how the government -Democrats or Republicans work.

    Some of the city residents might consider it special that he’s coming to their city. I guess that might missed that position. Your average “NYC local” aren’t easily inconvinienced-you’ve never been to New York have you? No one is fleeing the city from a POTUS visit.

  • http://mediamatters.org/ Leedog

    No big deal!! New Yorkers know how to adapt!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mark-Williams/100000431800956 Mark Williams

     ”Other than time, it’s a good highway.”

    Which is exactly what we are talking about-Time. thank you for admitting that and I rest my case.

    Once again you made it a partisan topic by connecting President Obama’s decision making ability to the subject. I know you don’t want to admit it; but you did.

    And as I suspected you know nothing about NYC, their lifestyle, or their traffic. 

  • Anonymous

    Thats right, disclose the “real” unemployment numbers…and I am not even asking them to exaggerate them like they would if a Republican were at the helm!!

    Never before has the media protected and coddled a politician like Oblamer!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mark-Williams/100000431800956 Mark Williams

     Apparently people in LA and Wisconsin don’t!

  • Anonymous

    “First of all 43% is actually higher than the last polls I looked at and
    far better than the previous POTUS at this time in his second term-so
    nothing special there.”

    Too bad Oblamer will not get a chance to poll worse than Bush did in his second term!!

    You might want to read what you write before embarrassing the hell out of yourself!!

  • Anonymous

    Lol, evidently Mark Williams actually thought Oblamer was running against a Bush third term!!
    No surprise why a unqualified and disgruntled community organizer can get elected to the highest office in the world!!

  • Anonymous

    Yes – Potus made a bad executive decision. Glad we agree on that.

    You made my point for me. The 405 is not a nightmare to drive. It is merely lengthy. Add in a President and it’s more lengthy. Glad we agree.

    I have no desire to live in high rent, high tax zones. I’d rather you waste your money than me. :)

  • Anonymous

    This is only one poor decision in a line of many. This is only indicative of his poor planning skills. Logic would say to not go. But apparently he has issues in 2012 so he needs all of the donor money that he can get. That’s not my problem, but his.

    As is evidenced by the recent PA speech in which it was a struggled to give away free tickets, my gut instinct is that people don’t care if the President attends a NY function or not. They would rather him balance the budget, which he has not done nor has he presented a budget that passed for more than 700 days. I don’t use NY as a barometer for the nation though. NY has its own issues. This is purely political and the fact that you feel the need to defend it speaks more about you than anything else.

    Why would I care about NYC local people? That makes absolutely no sense. Locals within a 15 min. commute would have no problem of it as it may only add 30 mins or so to their commute. However, whenever you add Presidents and their detail you add significant time to everything else going on. Pure and simple.

    As I said, you are making this partisan and I find it quite hilarious.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mark-Williams/100000431800956 Mark Williams

     No we are not agreeing that Obama made a bad executive decision we are agreeing that the 405 is clogged highway that takes a lot of time to drive on-that is the point you made for me. Being a partisan you keep trying to tie President Obama’s decision making ability to the issue. Once again sorry you can’t face what you wrote earlier.  

    And its ok if you can’t afford to live in a nice and exciting place. Not everybody gets to live in NYC, or DC-but don’t act like you understand the people there.

    You don’t.

  • Anonymous

    Progs/Libs Never Post Nonsensical Comments On Palin, Cain, Beck, Or Rush Articles !!!  Never ! Never !

  • Anonymous

    Now we see what it takes for Barack Obama to actually start working hard.  Fundraisers and partying for Christmas.

  • Anonymous

    So are dicks that call the POTUS dick.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mark-Williams/100000431800956 Mark Williams

    ” Logic would say to not go.”

    That’s your opinion.

    “I don’t use NY as a barometer for the nation though. NY has its own
    issues. This is purely political and the fact that you feel the need to
    defend it speaks more about you than anything else.”

    Partisan nonsense from somebody who just called the issue Purely political.

    “Locals within a 15 min. commute would have no problem of it as it may
    only add 30 mins or so to their commute. However, whenever you add
    Presidents and their detail you add significant time to everything else
    going on. Pure and simple. ”

    Locals within 15 minutes use a little something we like to call a “subway.”

    You made it partisan with your first post today-you and the other right wingers who jumped on this with both feet. Facts are pesky things when you cannot face the truth.

  • Anonymous

    Subways Are Socialism !!!  Only On PlanetWood !!

  • Anonymous

    I Agree…sort of.  Obama doesn’t need to travel to be a narcisstic disgrace.  He can do that from the WH !

  • Anonymous

    Actually, the 405 is not a clogged highway. It’s an efficiently built highway surrounded by many people. The same commute that took me 1.5 hrs could take me 40 mins. at 1 PM. Everything is dependent on when the President arrives and leaves.

    The President made a poor decision to have these three events on this particular night. Period. Get over it.

    I’ve lived in Sydney dude. It has nothing to do with the high rent, high tax. Most people in the city are rude. :) As you’ve just proven.

    Have a nice day in your “exciting” city where it’s so exciting that you’re online talking about the President’s commute.

  • http://www.facebook.com/TheStilettoBlog Victoria Knox

    There is a secret spot from which women and young children in the know can get a bird’s eye view of the tree lighting without dealing with the crowds. BHO’s plans won’t affect mine at all (for a change).

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mark-Williams/100000431800956 Mark Williams

    Yes three events in New York that don’t affect you or your travel time on the 405. Yes that sure is a reflection of President Obama’s executive decision making ability.

    And now I’m rude? Sorry you got your feeling hurt by somebody pointing out your obvious partisan bias.

    Yes perhaps you should leave and go have a good cry!

    ;-) 

  • Anonymous

    My family vacations at a beach house only a few houses away from Barry’s crib in Kailua…..there is literally only one way in and out………Oh what fun it is when the useless one decides to show up…….. when we are there…..we are not only “parked” but trapped too……….this arrogant narcissist really irritates me………someone PLEASE tell me when HE is actually going to DO something constructive?……ALOHA…

  • Anonymous

    So the President’s commute will affect you as you are currently in NY? Do go on.

    Either way, this is a pattern of repeated poor executive planning. Sorry that doesn’t fit your meme of “Go Obama Go” but some of us like to live in reality.

    Way to end up on a sexist note though. That reflexes great on not only you but your parents. Mom would be so proud!

  • Anonymous

    “…republican brothers and sisters are still suffering from the wounds and arrows that were hurled at President Bush several years ago.”So you admit that  ”left-wingers” were (still are) just as petty and immature when Bush was president?
    You clearly have NEVER been stuck in NY traffic or inconvenienced by a presidential visit- this isn’t a simple ‘change in traffic pattern’. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mark-Williams/100000431800956 Mark Williams

    Ah so you see the world through a SEXIST prism. That figures. Most uneducated people see sexism or racism where there is none. Its a reflexive move to being powerless.

    You meant “Reflects” not “Reflexes” by the way.  

  • Anonymous

    he’s worse..he is a limp dick

  • Holistic

    Once again, Obama proves its all about “The King” instead of the people!

  • Denis Lee

    Mark, there is no use trying to reason with people like this. They only care about their own opinions. They cannot be reasoned with.

    Anybody who cannot address the President of the United States by his proper name has no credibility in my opinion. You may not agree with what he is trying to do, but the lack of respect shows your true colors.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mark-Williams/100000431800956 Mark Williams

    Well I tried Denis. Besides this person engaged me after I called out the first five posters for their partisan comments. She seemed reasonable enough at first-and then she melted down after her arguments failed and starting throwing out the “sexist” card.

    I think you are right-I always referred to Bush as President Bush but you have to realize that many people did not respect him an that’s why we dealing with such nonsense today-a point I made in my original post. Republicans are suffering from PTSD when it comes to Bush-they feel they have to denigrate President Obama because of Bush’s treatment by opponents years ago.

    Thankfully Former President Bush stands head and shoulders over so many of the so called republicans of today. I mourn for the days of the compassionate conservative.    

  • Anonymous

    Will it be a black empowerment Kwanzaa tree?

    Hail to the King baby!

  • Anonymous

    You’re correct. I edited my statement. I’m currently working on other documents and made an error. My apologies.

    Sorry. I see things when they’re sexist as sexist. It’s a standard fact that I’m a female. An educated under 30 yr old female to be precise. Which is why you see more attacks on me. Granted, they’re more or less done by the same person that has about 10 profiles, but you can get the drift.

    My educated self made the educated decision that you made a partisan argument. My educated self was correct. :)

  • Anonymous

    You assume that everyone uses the subway. Good to know.

    As I said, your attack is clearly partisan and I tried my best to reflect a cordial, yet respectful (despite being belittled) nature with you. Apparently, you don’t know how to utilize these type of professional skills.

    Continue using terms like Right wingers. That never makes your side look partisan. :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mark-Williams/100000431800956 Mark Williams

    “My educated self made the educated decision that you made a partisan argument. My educated self was correct.”

    Talking about oneself in the third person is silly. Your “uneducated self” was incorrect but I don’t expect you to see the error of your ways.

    More likely people attack you because you make unsupported assumptions based on the Partisan/sexist prism you see the world through and then when challenged you throw out the “sexist card”-as you just proved with your many posts.

    I think we’re done here.  

  • Anonymous

    Obama is a greedy, liberal, Muslim Pig
    That’s all I have to say about the White House pickaninny.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mark-Williams/100000431800956 Mark Williams

     ”You assume that everyone uses the subway. Good to know.”

    Is that what you got out of that? Ok.

    “As I
    said, your attack is clearly partisan and I tried my best to reflect a
    cordial, yet respectful (despite being belittled) nature with you.
    Apparently, you don’t know how to utilize these type of professional
    skills.”

    No you haven’t but it sure is interesting the way you mind “works.”

    “Continue using terms like Right wingers. That never makes your side look partisan. :)”

    You’re cracking me up now-perhaps you didn’t read the first five comments I objected to. Oh that’s right-its obvious that you’re just a gigantic hypocrite.

  • http://twitter.com/Screaming_Head The Screaming Head

    *Sigh* Hope and change!

    http://occupyxmas.net

  • Denis Lee

     WCinWI2, just let it go……. He says you were being partisan, you said you were not and he was being partisan. We get it. Enough already.

    Let’s talk about you for a minute, shall we? What are you, as a young, educated (and I’m assuming Republican, so please forgive me if my assumption is wrong) person doing to help the state of our country besides ridiculing our current President?

  • Anonymous

    You need to edit people to person. Keep up.

    My educated self put your educated self to shame. It’s ok to admit that.

    Enjoy your day. :)

  • Anonymous

    Is New York the 56th or 57th State?

  • Anonymous

    Calling me a hypocrite when you stated that you were done with me 11 minutes ago and then five minutes ago wrote me again, seems quite funny. Normally, when I say that I’m “done here”, I stop responding to that person about that particular point of contention. Apparently, you mean it to mean that I will keep writing you despite my calling you a name that I, myself, have employed. Interesting.

  • Anonymous

    Mark thinks that we can all fly or take the subway.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mark-Williams/100000431800956 Mark Williams

     Have fun Denis!

  • Anonymous

    So glad I’m not going to the tree lighting.  Mass traffic AND blocked streets does sound like a nightmare.  I’ve been stuck trying to find a cab on a rainy day, bad enough!!

  • Denis Lee

    You need to edit people to person. Keep up.

    My educated self put your educated self to shame. It’s ok to admit that.

    Enjoy your day. :) 

    What the hell are you talking about???

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mark-Williams/100000431800956 Mark Williams

    Denis-She’s talking to me. She’s a bit of paranoid schiz cause she thinks there’s one guy with ten profiles following her around the internet.  Nothing pathological about that at all-LOL

    And as to the rest of her post its meaningless off topic drivel. 

    ;-)

  • Denis Lee

    Ah, I see. Delusions of grandeur…. Or maybe just delusions….. I digress.

    My question still stands WCinWI2:

    What are you, as a young, educated (and I’m assuming Republican, so
    please forgive me if my assumption is wrong) person doing to help the
    state of our country besides ridiculing our current President

  • Anonymous

    So true…Obama is actually making Jimmy Carter’s presidency look good.

  • Anonymous

    Denis – It’s a proven fact that there is one person with many profiles on Mediaite. He will post under Rex, Widdle and exGOP for starters. I only saw him sign under both the Rex and Widdle name, but others with a history of this site and this individual state that he is multiple other SNs. I can’t keep up. I only know that there is one individual pretending to be multiple SNs. Everyone is suspect. :)

    That’s all that was being inferred from my statement. If you comment long enough, you will understand some of these personalities. The SN exGOP was just found out to be Widdle yesterday (ask who I know is Rex (RexderWunderGott now I believe). Go to the Jon Stewart thread and you will see that the SN OSTL discovered this.

    I can only comment on Widdle and Rex for sure though because I physically saw the name change happen. :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mark-Williams/100000431800956 Mark Williams

    Did you get all of that Denis?

    I’m going to rely on you to care!!!!

    “Everybody is suspect!”

    TOO FUNNY!

  • Anonymous

    Denis -

    I get involved in local political campaigns. And I vote. That’s what I do.

    I also become educated about the facts. Hence, why I provided you with facts about posters on this site versus Mark who wishes to denigrate me. But I’m sure that Mark will refer to me even though “he’s done with me.”

    I’m an ABO now. I don’t like any of the candidates.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mark-Williams/100000431800956 Mark Williams

    Denis-

    You bet I will refer to her! How could I ignore this loon?? She’s hilarious! Now ever having a serious discussion with her ever again?

    Don’t on it.

    LOL

  • Anonymous

    Denis –

    See above for the typical liberal mind. He says that he is done with me, yet continues to talk about me. Don’t you find that peculiar? I do.

    Time will tell how many times he will continue to mention my name. Thus is the norm with folks like him.

  • Anonymous

    You’re acting like that makes him different than nearly all politicians.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mark-Williams/100000431800956 Mark Williams

    Called that one.

    Too Easy.

  • Anonymous

    Actually, they are.  The NYC subway system started off as being comprised of a number of private companies.  In 1932, the city owned IND subway lines started up to compete with the private lines and, in 1953, the New York City Transit Authority was took control of all of the subway lines in the city.

    So, yes, the subways are publicly owned and are therefore socialist.

  • Anonymous

    We’ll grumble about it, but that’s about it.  We tend to grumble about the subway and the roads even when there’s no traffic.  We’re a pretty jaded and cynical city.  It’s generally expected that our commute will be bad.

  • Anonymous

    Why would you ask if it were a Kwanzaa tree?

  • Anonymous

    Using a name used for the religious identification of over a billion people as pejorative is not xenophobic.  Not at all.

  • http://mediamatters.org/ Leedog

    New Yorkers are tough… that have the right to complain every now and then!!  =)

  • http://twitter.com/runforfun54 Ilene K

    you really are a dick .. suppose you had no problem, at all, when W and his wife would come to MY city just to shop — always at Christmas. The hypocrisy here is freaking mind=boggling!

  • Anonymous

    Same with LA folks. We grumbled because we knew the time commitment to even getting a cup of coffee. Who wouldn’t grumble when driving for so long when gas prices were/are so high? It’s only understandable.

    I have no clue what a NY commute would be, but I know LA’s was rough.

  • http://twitter.com/runforfun54 Ilene K

    Really … suppose you said thing when Laura Bush would come Christmas Shopping here in NYC.  Nah, didn’t think so, your criticism is solely for the same President whom you’ve never even accepted having a mandate, although he was elected with the LARGEST NUMBER OF VOTES EVER!!! LMAO!

  • http://twitter.com/runforfun54 Ilene K

    Yeah, so what? That’s what Boner and Turtle head have been doing ever since Turtle’s announcement that his NUMBER ONE PRIORITY was to make our President a one-termer.But you do have those GOP talking points down. Congrats!

    But then again, I would expect nothing less from an idiot who doesn’t even know how to spell narcissistic .. surprising since quite a number of the GOP Presidential Candidates have this trait – Palin, Bachmann, Newtie, Herm.

  • http://twitter.com/runforfun54 Ilene K

    Still stuck on that, are you … and nothing about Perry’s not knowing the voting age is 18??? Get some new material, will ya?

  • Anonymous

    LA’s commute is like the traditional vehicle commute from hell.  You have my sincerest condolences. 

    I can’t speak for driving cars in the city, but the subway can be absolute hell.  It takes at least half an hour to get anywhere, there are always jerks that think that shoving you will get them home faster, trains start and stop without much explanation, there’s always a chance you’re going to be stuck underground for an extended period of time, and tourists always get in the way.  To be fair, it isn’t the tourists’ fault, they just don’t know that there is a lot of unspoken etiquette. In the summer, the stations are filled with hot, stagnant, humid air.  There’s no way to get to work without already sweating through your shirt. 

    But, on the plus side, I basically either sit or stand and just read for the hour and half commute.  Books do get expensive, though :)

  • Anonymous

    Why, thank you.  I like to think so, as well :)

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think that he shouldn’t go. All Presidents should go. Obama was wrong in planning other events. He needs only one event of this type per day. Otherwise, it speaks to his own re-election efforts.

    But to pretend that it doesn’t cause some sort of hurt to the nearby economy for those hours is just absurd. That’s all.

  • Anonymous

    The romantic side of me liked the reading on a bus/subway idea, but the practical side of me kept thinking “Is this worth it?” :) But yes, I could imagine it getting bored. I would just settle into my car for the 1.5 hr (one-way) commute and go in-between talk radio and radio tunes. Being in grad. school at the time, if I was working a half day, it was the best because the commute would be about 40 mins. but anything after 3 PM and you were adding time onto the commute.

    Various regions have different standards of manners. That’s for sure. In the Midwest, we return shopping carts. In CA, you leave them wherever you want. I found it the most odd strategy, but it wasn’t just at one store. I could only pray that there wouldn’t be a wind and that a cart wouldn’t crash into my car. And on good days, I’d return a cart or two to the cart bin. :)

  • Anonymous

    I’m sure you have made some lucky man a repulsive ex-wife. (Talk about a nightmare.)

    Ilene. Stand up straight.

  • bill marsano

    Just for the record, I and many other New Yorkers DID ‘say the same’ thing when Bush barged imn. Also when Bill Clinton did likewise, and when Hillary came to accept her book award (complete with drumming helicopters hovering over the theater) and when any traffic-paralyzing UN bigshot comes to town. And it’s not just commuters who are inconvenienced. When Mr Big show up even pedestrians are herded away from ‘sensitive’ street approaches. We don’t care what party or country these people are from; we just want them all to stay home.

  • Anonymous

    Expanding The Definition Of Socialism To Make It Attractive !! Excellent Work !!

  • Anonymous

    Bet you thought it was a real scream when they used Air Force One’s look alike to buzz the Statue of Liberty for a photo op and scare the daylights out of the NYorkers.  Ah, but that was Obama’s administration.

    Or,  how about Michelle Obama going to your city just to appear on the View, or spring break with the daughters, US Open, date night?  You an equal opportunity basher or a hack?

  • Anonymous

    Anyone recognize any talking points in the above screed?  misspelled words? lol

  • Anonymous

    Well as Joe Scarborough would say “If you don’t like living in traffic ridden New York City, why are you living there?”

  • Anonymous

    Do you have any idea how to make a point without name calling and stupid insinuation!!  And your name is stupid too.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2RUPG5LCXSEZZFP4NV67XF4TJE Place it on Lucky Dan
  • BooBoo Bear

    The only way that we can fix this debt crisis is if we…kick the TP/GOP out of power. Until the TP decides that they can actually let the Bush Tax Cuts finally expire..Since for some reason they seem to think that allowing them to expire amounts to a tax increase. Thanks Grover…Time to leave the “Pledge” that the GOP made to Grover and see if they can actually remember that they want all American Children to say the Pledge Of Allegiance to the flag.. Would truly like to see these TP’ers remember that they are Americans first instead of being TP’er first and Americans a far distant last. Even when the Shrub was President the Democrats didn’t cause gridlock. They passed his budgets with very little problems. Even though his budgets more than doubled the National Debt. Mostly on the backs of the “average taxpayer” who paid $329,000 for each of the “Jobs” that were created by Bush’s tax cuts for the rich.

  • Anonymous

    “With just a little less arrogance, and a little more consideration, on
    the part of the president and his political team, the whole mess could
    have been avoided.”

    There’s the problem. Nerobama could care less about the lives of the people, he is all that matters. I note how he can manage three fundraising appearances in one night in New York City, but for two years with a friendly Congress he could not manage to come up with a budget that cut spending to a manageable level. This is what the man is being paid for, but all he can do is take, take, take.

    He deserves the contempt he is fostering all by himself.

  • Anonymous

    Let’s see how many times Mark Williams can reply to Mark Williams in this thread.
    Up to this point, 21:39 11/30/2011, I counted 13 times.

    Do you do that so no one can directly oppose your opinion? It sure looks like it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/andrew.sappington Andrew Sappington

    Since when do New Yorkers drive a car.  It’s just like walking in L.A, not too many people do it.  

  • Henry Wood

    Hey!  Expanding the definition of socialism is the right wingers prerogative.  Raising the highest marginal federal income tax rate?  SOCIALISM!!!  Government ownership of the means of production?  CAPITALISM!!!

    Dear Mr. Clown, if the government were to take over the health insurance industry, would that be socialism?  Consider your answer carefully!

  • Anonymous

    This Ba$rard child of a twobit cheap street whore could are less about other people, he only cares about his campaigns and raking in the money.  Obama is the Most LowLife Failed Arrogant Worthless Pathetic Excuse of a Human I have ever seen!

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  • Anonymous

    Perry’s not POTUS, and probably never will be.  But I wonder how Perry would sound speaking Austrian with a Texas accent.  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JUT2TATEV3OHGQ7HZRYN472XVM Felix

    I wonder how many Occupy Wall Streeters are going to be at Obaa’s fundraisers (inside or outside). Surely they have SOMETHING to say about this crowd, you think?

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