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Man Behind Poll That Ron Paul Won Tells CNN That Ron Paul Shouldn’t Have Won

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On that same day that a new poll showed Ron Paul placing third in New Hampshire polling, Tony Perkins, who heads the Family Research Council, told CNN on Monday morning that people should probably not pay too much attention to the results of the 2011 Value Voters presidential straw poll over the weekend, which Paul won with 37% of the votes. Why is this significant? Because the straw poll was run by Perkins’ organization:

The main beef Perkins has with Paul’s win was that the Paul camp allegedly bused in about 600 supporters. And with only 1,983 people voting in the poll, that number gave the Texas congressman an immense boost. While giving the campaign credit for getting supporters out of bed on a Saturday morning, Perkins said that the Paul contingent wasn’t necessarily there for the long haul, taking off after the candidate’s speech. “They came down, they voted, they left,” Perkins said of his supporters. “Ron Paul is an outlier in this poll.”

So, if the 600 Paul supporters elected to sleep in and missed the buses, what would the new results look like? Herman Cain would have won with 33% of the votes, followed by Rick Santorum at 23%, and Bachman/Perry tied at 11%. Paul would have finished next with 10% of the vote:

Herman Cain 33%
Rick Santorum 23%
Michele Bachmann 11%
Rick Perry 11%
Ron Paul 10%
Mitt Romney 6%
Newt Gingrich 4%
Undecided 1%
Jon Hunstman 1%

Still, in Paul’s defense, most people are, in reality, going to have to get organized and go to polls on primary and election days (as opposed to sitting at home answering hypothetical scenarios over the phone), so if Paul’s camp has the resources and motivation to convince people to go out and vote in these large numbers, this might not be such a huge outlier after all.

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  • http://profiles.google.com/fatlibertarianinokc Fat Libertarian

    Is there any proof that Ron’s campaign DID bus in people?

    This may come as a surprise to the fascist Perkins, but Ron Paul

    Does have ardent supporters who will DRIVE THEMSELVES to these events.

    Paying for everything.  I’m apart of the Ron Paul movement and was not once contacted

    about this straw poll.

  • Anonymous

    He must run polls for Obama too.

  • Texan

    Why isn’t ron paul down there on wall street “protesting?”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_A4OJ2F7ADXSD7OMEUUEQDQDZ2Y Dustin Baker

    Ron Paul can’t catch a break from the media.  It’s nice of them to run some fictional results of the poll that throw away his support.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Liberty-Ordeath/100002643464351 Liberty Ordeath

    For the RLC in NOLA i drove 3 hrs to vote..along with others i met who drove from texas and mississippi and we won with over 600 votes! no bus. However all the other hopefulls are doing the same thing.

  • Anonymous

    All I hear is whining and complaining from supporters of big government who feel threatened.

  • Anonymous

    “How dare those pesky Paul kids out organize every other campaign!  Get off my lawn!”

    Tony Perkins sounds a wee bit vindictive.

    You could not just attend Paul’s speech, you had to register for the conference. There were electronic voting machines, not ballot boxes and you had to be registered to cast a ballot. Hat’s off to the Value Voters Summit for not stealing the vote when they could have.

    Ron Paul is a Christian, and he spoke a lot about issues that appeal to Christians and Christian conservatives.  If the Value Voters Summit is as wise as I think they are, they might try to continue to accommodate the young people, energy and enthusiasm that Paul’s faction brought to the conference.  His supporters filled two large rooms, standing room only: old people, young people, families, college students, black people and white people.  I had never been to a Paul event before; I was quite surprised to see such a large and diverse group. All the reports I heard in the media were that he only attracts college students.

    The rest of the Republican candidates are all for one form or another of big government, pro-bail-outs, and pro-endless war.  Please explain how that will be any different than Obama in November?

    America wants real change, and that’s why people came to see and hear Paul at the Summit.

  • Anonymous

    For a long time in the GOP and among Democrats, straw polls were considered a great show of a campaign’s organizational strength, and they were also regarded as a measure of a campaign’s momentum toward victory on election day. Some conservative political organizations used to even teach conservative activists how to organize and win straw polls.

    However, when Paul starts to win them, suddenly they’re meaningless. They are so “meaningless” that the Texas GOP had to cancel its straw poll out of fear that Ron Paul would secure an easy straw poll victory over weak incumbent Governor Rick Perry.

    Wait for the next election cycle when Paul is not running; what is left of the vintage media will consider straw polls important again.

  • Anonymous

    Tony Perkins is a Pharisee.

  • http://profiles.google.com/fatlibertarianinokc Fat Libertarian

    No, I get all of that.  

    I know the mainstream GOP and Media are corrupt and soulless beings.

    What I don’t KNOW is that the campaign did BUS IN supporters.

    Honestly it sounds like something Ron Paul would never do.

    But it’s something Jesse Benton might do lol

  • http://profiles.google.com/fatlibertarianinokc Fat Libertarian

    THE PAUL CAMPAIGN DID NOT BUS IN 600 SUPPORTERS!

    They offered discounted tickets.  

    http://www.dailypaul.com/180478/values-voter-summit-in-dc-who-is-going-to-see-rp-and-vote-in-the-poll

    And in the comments you see people talking about driving out there.

    Yes, we will drive miles to hear Ron Paul and vote for him.

    MAINSTREAM GOP AND MEDIA TREATMENT OF RON PAUL’S VICTORY;

    http://www.ronpaul2012.com/2011/10/10/downplaying-ron-pauls-values-voters-victory/

  • Anonymous

    Time for Bachmann Tea Party supporters to get behind Ron Paul.  If you have been supporting Bachmann, she’s run out of money and has begun to recall her paid staff.  If you want lower taxes and call yourself a Tea Partier, Ron Paul is now your best chance of lower taxes.

    Cain 9+9+9 = 27 Same as it is now
    Romney and Perry are deficit spenders.

    Ron Paul is the only candidate with an actual plan.

  • Anonymous

    Isn’t point of poll to get people to come out and vote for their choice. Perkins doesn’t like result so he calls foul.
    Paul not my guy, but hats off to him.

  • Anonymous

    I bet perkins is enjoying all the money those American people gave to his organization, just to show up and hear Dr. Paul.

  • B W

    The people sure as hell didn’t show up to hear Santorum’s claim that Al Qaeda wants us dead ’cause we eat Big Macs…

  • http://www.facebook.com/tony.westover Tony Westover

    The typical whining you hear whenever Ron Paul wins something. Maybe if other Republicans were as principled as Ron Paul they wouldn’t have to worry about his supporter being so avid.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000323217268 Bullet Gibson

    I know several people that went to the poll. They all said the same thing. There were no buses for Ron Paul. His voters all car pooled and came on their own. Now HERMAN CAIN did have a bus chartered for his supporters. Ask people who were there. THIS is why Cain and the others are keeping their mouths shut. THEY had buses and still lost.

  • Anonymous

    All I can say is that the Ron Paul campaign and supporters are very organized and have fire in their spirits to bring out the vote. We are going to be pleasantly surprised come Iowa and New Hampshire!

  • Jwagner

    My take – Ron Paul wins the Value Voters Straw Poll, there is a God in heaven.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    You’d help Mr. Paul even more if you edited your copy and paste segments. It’s so obvious.

  • Bsilone

    This is absurd. You write an article based on one persons statement, which is based on no evidence, and you rewrite the polls as “they shoulda been”. You call that journalism? I was in fact there, so lets look at the evidence. The event started on Friday, when most people are working (if Paul had spoken on Friday, I would not have been able to go). So yes many people will register on Saturday. It’s often ignored that Mitt Romney spoke right after Paul. None of those people came to see him? None of those 600 votes were for him or any other candidate? The events of the morning were as follows: Paul spoke at 9am, Romney spoke immediately after, Paul had a meet and greet at 10:30, during which there was a debate (not including any of the candidates). Then it was lunch time, when naturally most people left to eat. Voted ended around the end of lunch time, and there were just a few breakout sessions left to wrap up the event. So, the fact that Paul speaking and having a meet and greet were some of the last events and led right up to the time voting ended would be a key factor in people leaving after Paul spoke. Regarding buses, Pauls campaign called me to make sure I knew when Paul was speaking and if I needed to know anything about the event. There was no offer for a bus ride. I also saw no buses coming or going in my time there. It seemed people were walking out in small groups of friends or as families (I later recognized a few of the families at the DC zoo, which was only a couple blocks away, and where my family and I spent the rest of the afternoon). I hope providing some actual facts from an eyewitness is important to some of you, particularly the author or this article. To you I ask: please take some pride in your journalism, researching what you write to ensure it is fact, and not giving in to writing sensationalist garbage to bring up ratings.

  • http://profiles.google.com/donn3336 Donn Bryant

    Thank you for clarifying… and we depend on the news media for important information? I bet the writer of this never attended but just spews word that he got from someone else. The news media sucks.

  • Tim Tebow

    “I’m apart of the Ron Paul movement …”

    ????

  • Anonymous

    Tony Perkins is not the most trustworthy character.  He had dealings with the KKK’s David Duke back in 1996 while working as a campaign manager for Woody Jenkins in Louisiana.  He paid the klan a large sum of money for a mailing list and then was caught trying to “launder” the money through a third party.  It might have been mentioned in article for the sake of clarity.

  • Anonymous

    Notice to anyone who votes in a straw poll.

    Your vote does not count unless you vote for the people media has approved for you to vote for.

  • Anonymous

    How many supporters of ‘Other’ Candidates attended Ron Paul’s speech, Mr. Perkins. I guess you’re good enough to take all the Ron Paul supporters’ money for registration at your Summit, but too good to respect their opinions! By the way, most of the media (and apparently many of the attendees) failed to even listen to or read a transcript of Ron Paul’s speech. It was probably the most ‘Christian’ and truthful of all the speeches given during the Conference. Ron Paul cited Biblical references for his take on the morality (and immorality) displayed in modern-day American politics. Unfortunately, all the media can talk about is the ‘Cult’ diversionary sideshow in the three-way between Perry, Jeffers and Romney! How sad for the VVS, the media and American voters.

  • Anonymous

    How many supporters of ‘Other’ Candidates attended Ron Paul’s speech, Mr. Perkins. I guess you’re good enough to take all the Ron Paul supporters’ money for registration at your Summit, but too good to respect their opinions! By the way, most of the media (and apparently many of the attendees) failed to even listen to or read a transcript of Ron Paul’s speech. It was probably the most ‘Christian’ and truthful of all the speeches given during the Conference. Ron Paul cited Biblical references for his take on the morality (and immorality) displayed in modern-day American politics. Unfortunately, all the media can talk about is the ‘Cult’ diversionary sideshow in the three-way between Perry, Jeffers and Romney! How sad for the VVS, the media and American voters.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-P-Ivy/1570621089 Michael P. Ivy

    Yup.  And we need to hear from more people like you, who were there, who participated, who took time out of their day on their own dime, because this is a really great story!  I want to always hear about each person’s (family’s) experience when many of us are unable to participate.  Because MSM’s version of Paul stuffing the ballot box is making all of us sick.  I could totally visualize your attendance as being everything but ballot stuffing zombies running around the country sandbagging on behalf of Dr. Paul.  So, thanks for sharing your experience.  Somebody should create a web-site/FB site for exactly this kind of exchange because if you rely on the MSM (and its hard not to because even though you know its all BS, you still think there is some credibility there), you are left with the worst impressions possible.  Thanks again. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rudy-Vassallo/1022112849 Rudy Vassallo

    RON PAUL is the change that Obama was talking about..if liberty is a popular currency then Ron Paul is its gold standar..Shame on Mr Perkins who does not has any respect for his own poll…you got the money from Ron Paul supporters but you have no respect for their votes.’.WE ARE GETTING AHEAD SANCHO …DOGS ARE BARKING ON US ….El Quijote …Go President Paul..we will be with you to the very end ..see you in the White House

  • Anonymous

    This article is complete BS.. What if all the Cain supporters decided to sleep in or miss the bus? Or what if all the santorum supporters did the same? You can make the same argument for any of them. The fact is that Ron Paul has more people willing to vote for him in straw polls than any other candidate . I think that will be reflected in the primaries as well when he stomps the Shiot out of all them and becomes the GOP nominee and then goes on to whip the shiot out of Barry boy in the general election……. Main stream media . Please stop trying to tell us who is the front runner and who is not. You are starting to sound like sore losers. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jennifer-Hyatt/541493901 Jennifer Hyatt

    Here they go again.  Let’s show them…..We have one way to fight the continuing blackout of Ron Paul….we are all going to donate so much on Oct. 19th it will make the media’s head swim!  It is called a moneybomb and we all donate directly to the campaign on one day and rock the establishment!  Please go to http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=181997088537471 or www .blackthisout.com….Spread the word and we dare them to BLACK THIS OUT!!  

  • Anonymous

    Hes campaigning for President so he can actually make some real changes . I would say it is a better strategy than protesting , wouldnt you?

  • Anonymous

    Ron Paul did  not bus in any supporters , But Cain did .  However if you are willing to get on a bus to go vote for the man you believe is best for our country then I think your vote counts just as much as anyone elses. don’t you?

  • Anonymous

    Mediaite, what on earth are you doing. You have constructed a story around one persons take on the events. If Fox ‘News’ did this (and they do it regularly) you would be at the head of the queue calling them on it.

    This story is garbage and can be summed up as “Tony Perkins didn’t like the guy who won so he called the whole thing a fraud”

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rudy-Vassallo/1022112849 Rudy Vassallo

    because Ron Paul understand economics…he has been protestitng against the real problem: Federal Reserva Bank …if you make money out of thin air and then you give it to your friends or well connected people or corporations this is the problem ..whitout Federal Reserve Notes .there wil be no bailouts..there willl be sound money..you will be unable to print gold..of course you can print money..i love Ron Paul ..i will invite you to google Ron Paul will you learn a lot about free market and The Constittution like a did..Freedom, Peace and Prosperity….besides Ron Paul will created the Department of Peace another unconstitutional Department but at least it will be for keeping families together…there is nothing more harmful for families that endless, undeclared, Unconstitutional  Wars..brings troops home as soon as you can Ron…President Paul ….President Paul!!!!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ray-Kirkus/100002630855564 Ray Kirkus

     How and why is Tony Perkin’s opinion on this event or his comments even newsworthy. Maybe they should bring up the $250.00 fee charged to vote in the Florida straw poll?

  • metor

    Help me, I’m an old man and this Media has me very confused. It basically says that if 2/3 of Ron Paul’s supporters stayed home he’d have gotten 2/3 less votes? Apparently 2/3 of potential Romney voters DID stay home, so maybe the article should say Heres the result if each of the candidate’s had 30% more votes.Wait a minute I’m confusing myself now. Why don’t they just tell us about the guy who won like they do when Cain , Romney, or Bachman wins?

  • metor

    I wanted to go to this thing, according to Paul’s site I had to pay $99 and get there on my own.Where were these alleged phantom buses? Second, why didn’t Perkins refuse to let them in and more important REFUSE TO TAKE THEIR MONEY INSTEAD OF BAD MOUTHING THEM? Sounds like the values voter has NO VALUES.

  • metor

    You’re Right Oct 19, and I’ve got an idea, I call it “100k100″. Paul has 100,000 contributors. If each of us gives $100 dollars that’s 10 Million. It will set a new record.It will blow the lid right off the chicken coop.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tanner-Goode/1406375362 Tanner Goode

    Ron Paul 2012 mutha fuckas

  • Anonymous

    I’d have left too, after hearing Ron Paul. He would be the sole reason for going, so why would his supporters stick around for anyone else? The other candidates could have “bused” supporters in. Why didn’t they? Ron Paul won. What else is there to say?

  • Sunnie733

    RON PAUL 2012!
    VOLUNTEER!

  • Anonymous

    Read his speech and you will see why he won. http://thepage.time.com/2011/10/08/paul-values-voter-summit-transcript/

    U.S. REPRESENTATIVE RON PAUL (R-TX): Thank you. Thank you. So
    early in the morning, too. I appreciate that. Thank you very much for
    coming.

    And I appreciate very much this opportunity to visit with you to talk
    about families. Obviously family values are very, very important.
    And, as was mentioned in the introduction, I have delivered a few
    babies. And that does contribute to family, let me tell you. (Laughs.)

    But also I’m from a rather large family. I have four brothers. But
    we have five children and 18 grandchildren and five great-grandchildren
    as well. (Cheers, applause.)

    But, you know, the one thing that is fascinating to me when we bring
    new life into the world or a new baby comes into the family has always
    been the reaction of the siblings – maybe one, two, or three, four years
    old. I’m always fascinated with the intrigue of the siblings looking
    at a small baby. And I thought, well, that was natural and good and
    really symbolizes what the family is all about.

    Unfortunately, our families have been under attack. And I have a few
    ideas about why that has occurred and what we might do about it. But
    the value of the family was something that was early described in the
    Bible. And there’s one reference to the family that I thought was very
    important. That was in Samuel, 1 Samuel, chapter eight. And this is
    when the people, not the elders, came to Samuel when he was very old and
    they knew he would be passing on, so the people came and said to
    Samuel, what we need is a king. We need a king to take care of us. We
    want to be safe and secure.

    And Samuel, although he knew he wasn’t going to be around long, he
    advised the people of Israel not to accept the king, because the king,
    he warned, would not be generous. He would undermine their liberties.
    There would be more wars. There would be more taxes. And besides,
    accepting the notion of a king would reject the notion that, up until
    that time, since they had left Egypt, their true king was their God and
    the guidance from their God.

    But the governing body was the family. And they did not have kings,
    but they had judges. And that’s what Samuel was. But this was the time
    there was a shift away from the judges and the family into a king. And
    I think a lot of that has happened to us in this country. We have too
    often relied on our king in Washington, and we have to change that.
    (Cheers, applause.)

    Samuel warned that the king would want to make servants of the
    people. And he even talked about taxes going up and he talked about the
    use of young men being drafted and he talked about the women and young
    women being used by the king. And the warning was not heeded, as Samuel
    didn’t expect it to be heeded. But he also said that if you depend on
    the king, the morality of the people will be rejected, the emphasis on
    the people themselves; the morality should come from the people and not
    from the king. And generally it doesn’t work that way.

    You know, morality of the people or the lack of morality of the
    people can be reflected in the law. But the law never can change the
    morality of the people. And that is very important. (Cheers,
    applause.)

    In the 1960s and the 1970s, there were dramatic changes in our
    country. During the Vietnam War there was a lot of antiwar sentiment.
    There were a lot of drugs. This was the decade that abortion was done
    flagrantly against the law. And, lo and behold, the laws got changed
    after the morality changed.

    But it was also – about the time we had Roe versus Wade, we also had
    the breakdown of our monetary system, the rejection of the biblical
    admonition that we have honest weights and measures and honest money.
    And not to have honest weights and measures meant we were counterfeiting
    the money and destroying the value of the money, which implies, even in
    biblical times, they weren’t looking for a central bank that was going
    to counterfeit our currency. (Cheers, applause.)

    But the culture certainly changed. The work ethics changed. The
    welfare state grew. And it wasn’t only for the poor who were looking to
    be taken care of, but we finally ended up with a system where the
    lobbyists were from the rich corporations and the banks that would come
    to Washington and expect to get their benefits. And the whole idea of a
    moral society changed.

    But, you know, biblically there’s a lot of admonitions about what
    the family should be in charge of. Certainly the 10th commandment tells
    us something about honoring our parents and caring for them. It didn’t
    say work out a system where the government will take care of us from
    cradle to grave. No, it was an admonition for us to honor our parents
    and be responsible for them, not put them into a nursing home and say
    the federal government can take care of them. Besides, sometimes that
    leads to bankruptcies and the government can’t do it anyway. So that
    responsibility really falls on us.

    In the Bible, in the Old Testament as well as the New Testament,
    Christ was recognized to be the prince of peace. He was never to be
    recognized as the promoter of war. And he even said, “Blessed are the
    peacemakers, for they shall be the children of God.” He never said
    blessed are the war makers. It was the peacemakers that we must honor
    and protect. (Cheers, applause.)

    Christ was very, very clear on how we should treat our enemies. And
    some days I think we quite frequently forget about that. Early in the
    history of Christianity, they struggled with the issue of war and peace,
    because Christ taught about peace. Did that mean Christ was advocating
    pacifism? The early church struggled with this and came to the
    conclusion, at least in those early years, that Christ was not a
    pacifist, but he was not a war promoter.

    And this is when they came up with the just-war principles, saying,
    yes, war could be necessary, but only under dire circumstances, and it
    should be done with great caution. All other efforts should be
    exhausted before we go to war, and always under the proper authority.
    And today I think the proper authority is not the U.N. or the NATO
    forces to take us to war. (Cheers, applause.)

    We are taught in the New Testament about caring for the poor and
    caring for our families and our neighbors and friends. But never did
    Christ say, you know, let’s go and lobby Rome to make sure we’re taken
    care of. It was a personal responsibility for us. Christ was
    confronted at one time by a prostitute, but he didn’t call for the
    centurions. He didn’t call for more laws. But he was very direct and
    thought that stoning was not the solution to the problem of
    prostitution.

    So do laws take care of these things, or do we need a better understanding of our Christian values and our moral principles?

    Life is most precious. I talk about life and liberty. I defend
    liberty to the nth degree, as long people aren’t hurting and killing
    each other and stealing and robbing. But you cannot defend liberty
    unless you have a clear understanding of life. And believe me, as an
    experienced physician and knowing the responsibility of taking care of
    life, from the earliest sign of life – I know, legally and morally, I
    have a responsibility to take care of two lives. And therefore you
    cannot be a great defender of liberty if you do not defend and
    understand what life is all about and where it comes from. (Cheers,
    applause.)

    You know, many great religions, and especially both the Old and New
    Testament, talks about a golden rule. And I think it’s an important
    rule. We want to treat – we should treat other people the way we want
    to be treated. And I would like to suggest that possibly we should be
    thinking about having a foreign policy of the golden rule and not treat
    other countries any way other than the way we want to be treated.
    (Cheers, applause.)

    There were great dreams by Isaiah in the Old Testament about the time
    that would come when the swords would be bent into plowshares and
    spears into pruning forks, the dream of ending the wars and to the point
    where peace is prosperous. And I have come to a strong conviction that
    one of the most greatest threats to the family is war. It undermines
    the family. (Cheers, applause.)

    Just in our last decade, an undeclared war that we’re dealing with,
    we’ve lost over 80,000 – 8,500 men and women in our armed services. We
    have 40,000 who have returned, many of them with severe amputations.
    And it’s, in essence, forgotten by the general population of this
    country. We have literally hundreds of thousands begging and pleading
    for help.

    I talked to a young man the other day and he was telling me about
    losing all his buddies and his frustration with the war and not having a
    goal of winning the war and not knowing when it would end. And yet his
    conclusion was – almost in tears he said to me, he says, I lost my
    buddies over there, but now I’m losing many of them to suicide.

    And when you think of this, of what the consequences of war, the
    death and destruction, what does it do to the families? What does it do
    to the husbands and the wives and the mothers and the daughters who
    have to deal with these problems? So, yes, it is very, very damaging.
    War costs a lot of money. It causes a lot of poverty. Poverty and the
    economic crisis in this country is undermining the family. But $4
    trillion of debt has been added in the last 10 years to fight a war that
    seems to have no end.

    Wars generally lead to inflation, the destruction of money. We don’t
    honor the biblical principles of honest money. We invite this idea
    that we can spend endlessly and we can print the money, and literally it
    undermines the family and undermines the economic system. When you
    lose a job, it’s harder to keep the family together.

    Divorce rates are very, very high among the military, because these
    young men are being sent back two and three and four times. And there
    was one story told me about a little boy, a little boy who was 10 years
    old, and his dad was getting ready to go back again. He was screaming, I
    hate you, daddy, I hate you, daddy, because he was leaving him.

    So this is why, in the early church, they talk about being very
    careful about going into war, and also to be thinking about the
    admonition that peace is far superior to war. That should be our goal.
    (Cheers, applause.)

    The goal of a free society, from my viewpoint, is to seek virtue and
    excellence. And only we as individuals can do that. When we turn this
    over to the government, when we seek our king and depend on our king, it
    can only be done at the sacrifice of liberty. And that means
    eventually all liberties – our personal liberties, our civil liberties,
    our religious liberties, our right to teach our children and our
    responsibility to teach our children, whether it’s home schooling or
    religious school – it’s always under attack.

    The more we turn it over to the government – it was a sad day in this
    country when we went this full measure about acknowledging the
    authority of the federal government to educate our children. There was a
    time when the Republican Party said that we shouldn’t even have a
    Department of Education. And I believe it should go back to the family,
    not the federal government. (Cheers, applause.)

    If we – if we do not get our moral values from our government, which I
    think it’s impossible to get it from them, where does it come from?
    First, it comes from us as individuals. We have the responsibility for
    dealing with our eternity and salvation. But we have our responsibility
    to ourselves to do the best we can with our own lives.

    But then our next step is our families; you know, our children and
    our parents, and then our neighbors and our churches. That’s where the
    moral values should come from. And, quite frankly, that is where I
    think we have slipped. So you can pass all the laws that you want. You
    can fight more wars than ever that’s going to bring us peace and
    prosperity. But if the basic morality of the people does not change, it
    will not matter. We must change our hearts if we expect to change our
    family and treat our family values as they should be. (Applause.)

    We have been blessed in this country by having the freest and the
    most prosperous. We’ve had a good Constitution, far from perfect. But
    today we are living way beyond our means. We are living in debt. And
    debt is not a biblical principle, whether it’s personal debt or whether
    it’s a national debt. We owe $3 trillion to people overseas. We are
    suffering from a mountain of debt because we have accepted this idea
    that we have this responsibility to mold the world, mold the people and
    mold the economy.

    Government is incapable of doing that. The responsibility of the
    government is to provide the environment which is proper to allow us to
    thrive, for us to work hard and have the incentive. If we have our
    right to – (applause) – if we have a right to our life and liberty, why
    is it that we don’t fight for the right to keep the fruits of our labor?
    (Cheers, applause.)

    If we accepted that, there would be no demands for the king. The
    people – the early Israelites demanded the king to be taken care of.
    But we have too, and we have accepted this notion as a country and as a
    whole that the king will take care of us.

    But I prefer the different king, the original king, the instruction
    that comes from our creator, not from our government. Our government
    should be strictly limited to the protection of the liberties that allow
    us to thrive. (Cheers, applause.) And our liberties and our economy,
    they are under attack today. There is no doubt about it.

    So we will have to meet up and make these decisions. To me, the most
    important decision that we have to ask, just as they asked, you know,
    in biblical times, as well as at the time of our founding of this
    country, what should be government like? What should the role of
    government be? It isn’t, you know, where do you cut this penny or this
    penny, and what do we do here and there, and tinker around the edges.
    It should be what should the role of government be? The founders said
    the role of government ought to be the protection of liberty. That is
    what the role of government ought to be. (Cheers, applause.)

    But the experiment is about to end unless we reverse this trend. I
    would say that we have gone downhill nearly for 100 years, especially
    for the last 10, and especially for the last four, when we think of our
    economy. But the real challenge is, are we going to transition from the
    republic to the empire and to dictatorship? And there are so many
    signs that we are, you know, transforming into empire and dictatorship.
    And just think of the bearing down on our personal liberties today.
    Think about what happens when we go to the airports. Think about now
    you have no privacy whatsoever. Now the government can look into every
    single thing.

    So we are living in an age when government is way too big. And it’s
    time this government act properly, and that is to protect our freedoms.
    (Cheers, applause.) The – if you read the Constitution carefully, you
    will find out that the Constitution is directed at the government.
    There aren’t restraints placed in the Constitution on you. The
    restraints are that you don’t hurt and kill people, that you fulfill
    your promise that you’re honest and you fulfill your moral obligation.
    The restraints are placed on the federal government.

    So as long as we allow the federal government to grow and we don’t
    obey those restraints, things will get worse. But the good news is
    there’s a whole generation of Americans right now rising up and saying
    we were on the right track at the right time. Let’s get back on that
    track. Let’s restore liberty to this country and prosperity and peace.
    (Cheers, applause.)

    Thank you.

    (

    Read more: http://thepage.time.com/2011/10/08/paul-values-voter-summit-transcript/#ixzz1aUGt9lw9

  • Guest

    How do they even know that all 600 people that registered on Saturday all voted for Ron Paul and then all left together?  That’s a bit hard to believe!

    I don’t think it is truly as simple as stripping 600 votes from Mr. Paul. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KJSZQLZFCEVG23PONTHP73QPI4 Falcon

    Thank you for posting! Compare Ron Paul’s humble and thoughtful speech on family values to Cain’s blithering, narcissistic speech that repeats “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness” over and over. But hey, at least this time ‘No We Cain’t’ got it right that those words are in the Declaration  of Independence and not the Constitution like he messed up in previous speeches.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KJSZQLZFCEVG23PONTHP73QPI4 Falcon

    The Ron Paul supporters left because Ron gave an additional speech at a nearby location after his speech at Value Voters. Besides, why sit through the same old status quo drivel by the others?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KJSZQLZFCEVG23PONTHP73QPI4 Falcon

    Ron would upset the apple cart of bailouts and crony capitalism, funny money printing by the Federal Reserve and actually restore Freedom and Liberty to this dear ailing old gal called America! Ron will be the doctor who well set American back on her feet as strong and as she was as a young Republic 200 years ago!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KJSZQLZFCEVG23PONTHP73QPI4 Falcon

    resistance is futile… you will be assimilated… we are Borg…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KJSZQLZFCEVG23PONTHP73QPI4 Falcon

    Ron Paul has the 000 plan. NO IRS personal taxes for ANYONE!!! Reduced government spending to balance the budget, not tax us to death in new ways!

    “By
    the way, when I say cut taxes, I don’t mean fiddle with the code. I
    mean abolish the income tax and the IRS, and replace them with NOTHING.”
    -Ron Paul

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KJSZQLZFCEVG23PONTHP73QPI4 Falcon

    Ron Paul has now placed first in FIVE straw polls. Anyone else done that?

    Value Voters: Ron Paul 37%
    CPAC: Ron Paul 31%
    RLC: Ron Paul 39%
    California: Ron Paul 44.9%
    New Hampshire Young Republicans: Ron Paul 45%

    What NEW reason will they have that Dr. Paul isn’t a “Top Tier” candidate?

  • Destinydestiny1269

    If someone supports a candidate they will do what it takes to vote for them. Why would it matter if there were busses? Would you get on a bus for a candidate that you didn’t support? I know that I wouldn’t.

    Bus or No bus, Ron Paul Won!

  • Christian Jadot

    Either the poll is good or it is not. Not just half of it.

  • Eyewitness to the Busing

    It was very difficult for Tony Perkins to figure out. His only clues were the same for those of us who stood in the Omni hotel lobby and watched as…MULTIPLE buses pull up to the front entrance and hundreds unload with Ron Paul signs and stickers; those same hundreds attend only Ron Paul’s speech; those same hundreds cheered and shouted disruptively; those same hundreds exited the conference area and moved to the voting line; those same hundreds cast a vote; and those same hundreds promptly left the conference. While this is blatantly presumptuous of Tony Perkins, I tend to agree with him. If you weren’t at the conference to eye witness the “free entertainment” then maybe you should keep your comments to yourself.

  • RealityCheck

    If Ron Paul would have actually bussed people in it would have been all over Main Stream Media, they have no story so they create one. They will do anything to discredit a brilliant moral and honest man.

  • Corruptmsm

    Oh an wasnt it just a few weeks ago I saw Romney bussing hundreds in an nobody said a word. Oops, guess I wasnt suppose to notice that.

  • Moik Rentz

    Wonderful – please do more imaginary poll results!

  • Anonymous

    He Has My Vote!! Go Ron !!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZAMPD65IV3J55IL23N2ZEVPVWM Oceanoz

    Southern Republican Leadership Conference straw poll: 46%
    This was 17 Jun 2011 in New Orleans, Louisiana.
    46% of 1330 = 611.8

    Paul: 612
    Huntsman: 382
    Cain: 104
    Romney: 74
    Gingrich: 69
    Palin: 41
    Santorum: 30
    Pawlenty: 18

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZZ26MEEDAVWAB5Q3IOXFH2VJQI Jenna

    I wasn’t contacted for this straw poll despite being on every Ron
    Paul outreach group I am can find. Makes you wonder if straw polls are so easily manipulated, (as it seems because the media keeps discounting the results) why have they for so long been important? 

  • Doughertyconsulting

    I donated to his campaign, I am signed up on all his sites: I never rec’d one invitation for a free ride to the polls and a hot-dog token.  Perkins should be wise enough not to discredit his own poll.  Further more, who the hell in America really wants to vote for the Ex CEO of Godfathers Pizza for the love of liberty?  Plus an Ex Fed Reserve Chair,,, really?  That’s my President?  Who the hell is actually voting for him? Are they that dumb, are my countrymen that friggin’ stupid?  It can’t be, please God, I’ll start stabbing people in the jaw. :)

  • Anonymous

    I wish there were more like you on this site.

  • Anonymous

    This doesn’t help.

  • rob aurich

    here is why we need paul!!!

    listen to this mp3 on the FED. it will explain a lot. it will explain why ron paul can only win inspite of the big money. people are really going to have to get involved this time.

    http://ronpaul2012.podbean.com/mf/web/hfy8px/TheCreatureFromJekyllIsland.mp3

  • Aragornsos

    Because, welll… do the math.  Stripping 600 votes allows him to make the “new math” fit the numbers that BOTH sides of the MSM keep reporting.  Ron Paul “hovering around 8-10% as a distant 2nd tier candidate”.   Complete and utter bunk, since they trip all over themselves when someone else wins ONE of these polls, but Dr Paul wins poll after poll after poll… and they must be “suspect” or stuffing the ballot box or whatever other excuse they dream up. 

    As if Ron Paul has some magical power to be the only person in the history of the world to be able to motivate supporters to attend and vote.  It MUST be that, and not that he’s actually *gasp* this popular (and growing) with both “regular” Republicans and those of us who are generally GOP-leaning independents, as well as a LOT of Dems who are more conservative and sick of Obama.  Nope, he clearly has some secret magic sauce or something, cause it’s much more logical to think THAT than question why NONE of the other possible candidates can replicate whatever he’s doing even for ONE poll…

    Remember kids, when you hear hooves, think UNICORNS and HIPPOGRIFFS, not horses.  ;)

  • Anonymous

    Okay fine how about this.  Screenshot or it didn’t happen…I mean picture or video of these alleged buses or it didn’t happen.  BTW how many buses would be needed for 600 votes?  I am guessing at 6 or more so it should have been hard to miss especially with media outlets and personal camera’s etc.  Show some proof or else stop spreading misinformation.  Watch it be one bus with the Paul campaign and they were like OMG they bused people in see, people can’t really want to be free or vote for someone principled…

    Ron Paul 2012

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GR6KR52YLZYD5SYEVW2PFB2WFA Dirk

    I can’t watch the others. I watched C-Span coverage of the Reagan dinner. Thank the lord, Ron Paul went first. Ron Paul is the only candidate I will support.

    And after listening to Erskine Bowles a Democrat & Alan Simpson a Republican talk common sense & reason @ the WSJ CEO council meeting am session C-Span coverage starting @ 31min mark sound like sane Libertarins. I know Ron Paul is our only hope!

     

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GR6KR52YLZYD5SYEVW2PFB2WFA Dirk

    I bet it felt good. But perhaps disdis76 is correct. Tanner, let us argue like men/women of the House

  • Derogatispj

    Herman Cain did well in the VALUES poll?

    Huh?

  • Anonymous

    What a load of bull. Bachmann was forcing people in Ames to vote for her if they wanted to go in her to watch Randy Travis. Double standard pricks.

  • Charles Ulysses Feney

    The Slimy Newt

    A slimy neocon who calls himself Newt
    Has always played the globalist skin flute
    He gets on his knees
    And does what they please
    As he lines his pockets with their pilfered loot.

    With women, Newt’s always been a smooth dancer
    “Replace ‘em with an upgrade” is always his answer
    Which caused him, of course
    To present his divorce
    To his first wife as she lay dying of cancer.

    It seems Speaker Gingrich didn’t give a hoot
    For his family after he gave ‘em the boot
    He came up completely short,
    Never paying child support
    For the entire duration of the dispute.

    Next Newt married a girl named Marianne
    Whom he quickly decided to can
    When she got a diagnosis
    Of Multiple Sclerosis
    Which threw a wrench in his political plan.

    At the time Marianne announced she was sick
    Gingrich was boning his aide, Calista Bisek
    Calista played Newt’s harmonica
    As he blasted Clinton for gettin’ a Monica
    ‘Cause hypocrisy has always been Newt’s schtick.
    ___________________________
    Charles Ulysses Feney

     

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jj-Wisniewski/100002654075475 Jj Wisniewski

    Perkins is an idiot. Everytime I see him, he reminds of Pee Wee Harman. All he has to do is pull it out and whack on it.

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