Ah, poor Marxist cancer that Bammy is.

He may pout and he may cry
but in the end he didn’t even try
unemployment goes up
unemployment goes down
but Obama makes us all frown.
He is just a loser
who hasn’t a clue
he had no experience
he didn’t know what to do.
But in the end
the people did speak
they sent Bammy packing
with his wife the Pipsqueak.
They were tossed out in a landslide
let me tell you the tale
The American people registered their voice
“We say: NO SALE.”
No more time for Bammy
In 2013 he will be gone
Make way for a Republican
The Democrats will be done.
They did enough damage
Bammy and Pelosi and Reid
They made Americans worse off
They destroyed the American dream.

He went to to Chicago
that Toddlin’ town
But since he was sent back there,
There is no more American frown.

“Middle class Americans can’t afford to lose $1,000 next year because congress won’t act.”

American union members, police, firemen, teachers,etc., lose $1,000.00 every year in union dues.The money comes back to Dems in donations, of course.

Failed leadership – throw the bums out.  Elect a leader not a reader next time around.

So by 2013, defense spending goes down, there are cuts to Medicare, and the Bush tax cuts will expire.  Isn’t that what a grand bargain was going to look like anyways?

What a loser!!!

Blame blame blame is his idea of leadership while taking ZERO responsibility for ANYTHING!!

Cannot wait until this incompetent idiot gets thrown out of office next year!!

Big deal Obama! My aren’t you the leader?!?!?…

If anyone is dumb enough to think that Barry actually wanted the Super Committee to be successful, then I have a bridge to nowhere to sell you.  If that had happened, he couldn’t run against a “do nothing Congress”.  The man will do whatever he can to keep the focus off of what an utter failure he is and his minions in the liberal media are his willing accomplices. 

The Republicans are a bunch of crazy people for trying to destroy our economy and social safety nets

What a DUMB S _ _ T.  It takes 2/3rds vote to change the spending cuts.  That is enough to override any veto.

Come, right-wingers. Tell me how this is all some vain attempt on the part of Obama to appeal to you or how this is another example of him being a dictator.

Check f’n mate?

What is Fox going to say? Obama being fiscally conservative?

He blamed Congress, but wanted to include the Japan earthquake, the uprising in Cairo, ATMs and Rush Limbaugh.

Veto the triggers?

I don’t think his Veto wand will work when he’s moved out of the White House.

As usual the president only becomes involved after the fact, boldly with all the bravado of an accomplished and experienced community organizer. 

Poor conservatives.  They like spending cuts unless it is their sacred cows.

Finally he does something smart.

I haven’t been happy with Obama for a while. But putting his foot down here is something that I applaud. 

the President and both Houses of Congress are full of boloney and useless.

Id vote for someone to make every representative live off a middle income wage for a period of 10 years after they leave office and to prohibit wages gained from lobbying for life after they serve… 

I’m purposing a Super Mega committee.

Obama to the military(and America): F*** you.

That’s why I got, did anyone else get that?  I mean, wasn’t it Panetta who said these cuts are like shooting ourselves in the head?

Another failure by Captain Teleprompter. Good job, loser.

Where in the Constitution are the “so-called” safety nets discussed?  Just curious.  

First!

Leading from behind….

The. Worst. Congress. Ever.  Only 12 months after the greatest sea change in party affiliation in history congressional approval ratings have fallen to single digit – about 8%.  The Tea Party Downgrade strikes congress.  The Republicans would rather the nation fall than Obama succeed.  And he’s going to do it in spite of them.  This card game is in Obama’s control. 

Yeah!  I mean, jeez, it’s not like these governments across Europe are failing because of huge safety nets and taxes.  Oh wait…

Yeah, those poor conservatives.  Question: can you remind me the last time America was drawn into a war for having too strong a military?
Another question: when was the last time America was attacked for being perceived as weak?  I’ll give ya a hit, it happened a little over 10 years ago.

The thing is he is delusional to think we don’t know that the failures are his. He has done nothing to help us get our economy going and nothing to get the deficit down and Americans know it. He worked the first two years on a health care bill that does nothing to help anyone but only increases the cost of healthcare and grows government while we were screaming we need jobs. Then he proposes a jobs bill that is not a jobs bill but another stimulus like the ones that already failed. But of course if you say anything about his lack of progress on our problems you are a racist.

“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under
the name of ‘liberalism,’ they will adopt every fragment of the
socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation,
without knowing how it happened.”
- Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948

HA HA HA HA!! And you think republicans want Barry to be successful? Well I have a bridge to nowhere to sell you. Republicans will do anything to keep the unemployment rate high to win the next election. Republicans will do whatever they can to keep the focus off of what an utter failure they are and their minions in the conservative media are their willing accomplices.

I totally did not see this coming!

Isn’t that all what the republicans have been doing? Blame blame blame Obama?

Obama Tells Graduating Class, ‘Don’t Make Excuses,’

Funny stuff. What a pathetic failure.

Nice.

Like that moron Herman Cain? He has absolutely no chance of winning the presidency.

No one will read your rant. Trust me.

Republicans care only about the top 1% and can care less about the rest of the country. The Republicans are owned by Grover Norquist and the Koch brothers. They get their orders from the top and this is why Congress is at 9%.  

He tried. But Boehrner and republicans simply say no to everything. What can you do?

No but he will win.

Why isn’t Johnny Boehner?

Uh…..no. They’re not failing because of the safety nets or taxes.

So what have the republicans done? Please tell me. How many jobs bill have they proposed? Oh that’s right. None. Instead they spend their time thinking about whether pizza is a vegetable or not.

He got his wished-for xmas present early this year.  

No one will read your rant. Trust me.

And what have the republicans done?

No. But he will win.

Like that moron Herman Cain? HA HA!!

You are one funny little alien.  Who do you believe owns the Dims?  Could it be George Soros?

Wrong: http://biggovernment.com/dmitchell/2010/05/02/greeces-problem-is-high-tax-rates-not-tax-evasion/

That’s Boehners job. To stop the tax and spending.

So now you agree with a socialist? Allright then.

Failure in Congress ? really ? hahaha
This was put together to fail. The only thing they’ll agree on is reinstating earmarks.

So, if anyone tries to stop the cuts that his own Secretary of Defense calls “devastating” and says will “seriously damage readiness” he’ll veto it? Yeah, go ahead and run on that.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/2chambers/post/debt-panel-failure-would-result-in-devastating-defense-cuts-panetta-says/2011/11/14/gIQAW1u5LN_blog.html

You first,

Question: can you remind me the last time America was drawn into a war for having too weak of a military.
Another question: when was the last time America was attacked for being perceived as strong?

I didn’t get that. The way I see it we could easily cut the military spending in half and save a lot of money. We would still spend more money than the next 5-10 countries compined.

you’re mad because he’s using the republican playbook?

We weren’t attacked because they perceived us too weak.

 I’m pretty sure he knows that. I think you’re the dumb S_ _T here.

Just like you.

We should have a Blue Ribbon panel look at that proposal.

Well at least we know CC thinks that cons, like himself, are losers.

Boehner’s job was to crete jobs. Tell me have the unemployment rate went down since January? How many jobs bill has he introduced?

Sorry but the top economists disagree with that website you posted.

Actually, it’s the Senate that won’t pass anything. Oh, and then there’s this:

Republicans on Monday offered a combination of new revenues and spending
cuts that would cut the deficit by about $1.5 trillion over the coming
decade. Even as they refused to acknowledge the specifics of the GOP
offer, Democrats were quick to dismiss it.

http://tinyurl.com/8yyvloa

Grover Norquist.’s Republican­s never intended to compromise with the Democrats. They made that clear from day one.

STANDING BY PRESIDENT OBAMA IN 2012

This is Obama being SCOAMF.

Yeah when we went to Iraq.. and spent trillions.

Its time for th eEpic Committee

1. Never.
2. 9/11 http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/2010/March/Ex-Terrorist-Gives-CBN-Glimpse-Inside-Al-Qaeda/
“The two al Qaeda leaders were planning to attack the U.S. homeland – and based on previous weak American responses to acts of terror, they weren’t concerned with the repercussions.

“They said, ‘Okay, the first time when we attacked the U.S. embassies in Africa, there was maybe about 75 cruise missiles launched against Afghanistan,’” Benotman recalled. “They said, ‘Okay, maybe this time there is going to be 200 that will be launched in an attack.’ I’m telling you literally: This was their understanding of the conflict.”

Benotman told CBN News he warned al-Zawahiri repeatedly that the American response to a major terrorist attack would be massive.

“And he laughed about it, you know?” Benotman recounted. “And he said, ‘No, no, no.’ He didn’t believe it at the time.”

Benotman said al-Zawahiri and other jihadists believed that the U.S. was a “paper tiger” whose bark was worse than its bite. Bin Laden told Benotman at that Kandahar meeting that he had one more big operation to conduct – then he would retire.”

Seems pretty straight forward to me.  So the question seems to move to: are you welcoming another few thousand Americans to die?

Both sides are full of shit

Obama Tells Graduating Class, ‘Don’t Make Excuses,’

The Congress that was controlled by dems until last Nov.?

http://weaselzippers.us/2011/11/21/russian-news-anchor-gives-obama-the-middle-finger-on-live-tv/

Tell me, would this be the same top economists who are running things now?  Ya know, the people who screwed the hell up?

Yes the irony. Conservatives boasted about the sweeping changes in congress, and the result is the worst-rated congress in history.

You are one of the few that got the fact our Congress is failing to act. I see all these quotes about Obama but our Congress is a disaster. I do like the fact that Obama is calling the bluff.

Good ol’ liberal philosophy: history isn’t what happened, it’s what we say happened http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/2010/March/Ex-Terrorist-Gives-CBN-Glimpse-Inside-Al-Qaeda/

GOP. Willing to crush America in order to get one American out of the White House…. the new face of the KKK

Cain says “Blame yourself”

Wasn’t a rant it was a poem dipshit.

Not even close.

That top 1% pays almost 40% of all income taxes so you can ride free…you’re welcome !

…So much for the Super Committee

Well, it looks like those Automatic Spending Cuts for 2013 will now fall into place…

Then we went to afghanistan then we went to libya….

And what does this have to do with the story?

So you are a fundie who wants our foreign policy to be dictated by Israel?

Would you apologize for Obama if dead babies were found in his trunk, too?

FYI: Obama is not one of the members of the Super Commitee.

Russian News Anchor Gives Obama The Middle Finger On Live TV…http://weaselzippers.us/2011/11/21/russian-news-anchor-gives-obama-the-middle-finger-on-live-tv/

The next 5-10 countries don’t do crap either.  Whenever problems break out around the world, it’s not Italy, France, Germany or the rest who is looked to, it’s America.  Libya?  We just saw NATO collapse.  If that’s what we had, we’re are damn lucky the Soviets, in a drunken daze, didn’t bum rush Europe, otherwise that whole continent would be communist before they realized it.

The theory you’re depending on is that the world will be suddenly, unexpectedly start to work.  You fantasize about a reality in which peace is the goal of everyone.  Unfortunately, you are relying on a reality that does not and will not exist.  http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2011/11/20/dangers-follow-from-congress-s-coming-cuts-to-defense-spending.html

Also, entitlement spending, whether you want to admit it or not, is what needs to be brought under control.  While the military does need to be brought in line to some extent, entitlements is where the spending’s at.

Is that what’s “twirling around in your head?”

I’m sorry for you.

…So much for the Super CommitteeWell, it looks like those Automatic Spending Cuts for 2013 will now fall into place…

It’s the GOP who could not make the SuperCommitee work. They’re the ones saying F You because they KNEW the consequences.

…So much for the Super Committee.

Well, it looks like those Automatic Spending Cuts for 2013 will now fall gently into place…

Wrong…I read it !!

Did you have a point?

Wrong Again !!  I Read It Twice !!!

I’ll stop laughing after you think about the impossibility of passing such a bill. Gingrich wouldn’t be able to shop at Tiffany’s anymore.

This guy’s a fraud. He always has an expiration date attached to any statement he spits out.

No, he formed the thing, though.

Didn’t know you could read. Maybe momma is writing for you.

You mean a leader that isn’t a reader?
or Newt who hates Fannie and Freddie while fleecing this nation?
or any of the other dingbats on parade foe you?

You did.

Right next to the part about protecting the wealthiest from any tax increase.

“are” foreign policy?

That’s a lazy comment!
You’ve lost your ambition and imagination and have gone soft!

Your GOP wants to destroy the government–and America, which are exactly the same.

Loser.

Obama = DUMBEST rock on the beach.

Oh, and those boo’s at Nascar for Mooch (AKA the WOOKIE); they were REAL and MASSIVE!

Obama needs to ask the wookie in charge (his wife) what to do now.

Good work on thinking ahead on a talking point. Get a few more of them ready so we don’t have to talk about the problem at hand, you know the one the republicans have been pounding their fists about non stop since the president stopped being a republican but refusing every compromise offered to them.

Repeating Your Comments Just Makes You Sound Twice As Stupid !!

People with a hard work attitude don’t need someone else to “crete” them a job !!

That first Cain said, “Am I my brother’s keeper?” He was lying–just like today’s Cain.

This is the absolute begining of the GOP’s “philosophy”: greed and deceit–along with jealousy and murder.

That first liberal, Jesus, said we are our brother’s keeper.

Think about it, phonies.

Got a quote, bigot?

So, why are they failing? Is it George Bush?

How is he getting involved? He just stated that he’s not going to sign the bill when congress tries to pass the buck again. Seems to me like he’s just pushing some accountability on them. I thought you guys liked personal responsibility.

Does this mean that Obama wants to repeal his own health care legislation?

Yes when one house refuses to discuss any bill the other creates then their approval should be at a low. The senate is an utter failure and the low rating is deserved. Oh wait you don’t think the public realizes thoses polled know that the congress consist of two houses? Or perhaps you never took a civics class yourself. A pol of approval of the senate vs the House of Representatives would be interesting to see. I don’t think liberals want us to think about that however.

We’ll Soros is fighting to have his taxes raised too. 

His own Dems. voted down his bill.

And how fast their ratings fell with Republican leadership. 

Believe me – Obama didn’t do anything.

Then why are you blaming Obama? It’s not Obama’s fault then. It’s the people’s fault. I guess Obama was right. Americans are simply lazy.

Only an American would look at the attacks of 9/11 and consider they were attacks made due to a feeling that “America was weak”.. LOL. Are you serious? Those lunatics were interested in going after the USA regardless of “our” percieved strength. WE are lucky they are simpletons because US citizens alone provide more terror on an annual basis than anything anyone else could dream up. We are just so used to it that its no big deal. Anyone visiting from another country will tell you with all honesty that they are afraid of certain parts of this country and certain parts of each city. FUNNY.. so funny I GIVE YOU..
CAIN DANCE! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs7fJ6jAOVU 

This article just smells. It smells like bad news -again-. Does anyone out there dressed in contemporary GOP garb understand their own party’s history. HONESTLY I doubt it. Thats why Newt and Cain lead the party for its nomination to run for president.

ITS A JOKE.. A CAIN DANCE RELATED JOKE>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs7fJ6jAOVU 

We’ll if there was less inequality out there they wouldn’t be paying 40% of all income taxes.  Your point just backfired on you.  

So we are safe? Lets ignore this and beat the drums towards apocalypse!

HMMM. Let’s see. I seem to remember a day when our military was second to none and some president started a war based upon intelligence which had been deliberately skewed. His name escapes me. Oh, I know- George Bush. I do believe he was the president who was running the country when America, in your word was “perceived as weak”. 

Repeat talking points often? What was Congress’s approval when Dems controlled both branches Einstein? The stupidity of the left never ceases to amaze me!!

More Obama LIES!

Like the numbers in ObamaCare, they’re just fabricating them out of things never to happen!

MATTHEWS just threw Obama under the bus!

Hey Dems, are you familiar with that old tune:
“It’s the End of the World As We Know It!”?

When does Hillary challenge the first black President?
That won’t split the Party!

LMAO!

Hey, I DID read it. 

And yes, it was a rant; and yes, it was an extremely idiotic one. 

“Bammy”, yah, that’s going to help – a high schoolish wet drat spewing spittle right into your inner ear. 

“Marxist” – as if this moron even has Clue #1 as to what Marxism means - 

dialectical materialism, by the way, a theory of how the history of class struggle among unequally empowered humans evolves, a peculiar view from way back in the 19th century on social history as a sort of “12 Steps” program, with bugger all to do with ‘imposing’ anything at all, communism, socialism, anything at all in the way of ‘budget philosophy’ on democratic republics. Karl Marx – an academic in 19th Century ENGLAND, folks, because he was not safe in his native German region because IT was going thru political upheaval – was trying out an idea on where the massive royalist-peon failed states such as in pre-revolution Russia ‘stood’ in relation to some sort forced, therefore utterly inappropriate & misunderstood, quasi-Darwinian view of socioeconomic mobility. 

We’ve already established, beyond any possible doubt, that your basic Koch brothers funded & organized Tea Party *cough* Bircher *cough* model is a fearful, meek, trust-in-the-boys-in-blue authoritarian compliant know-nothing do-nothing bigot with his mind stuck in some imagined Utopia in the deep dark – as well as ‘nice quiet darkie’ – past. We saw ALL of that on the earlier thread on the police brutality in California. The wingers are all afinity frauds & believers in magic.

You know who COULD have brought us poem on this, a GOOD one? The past Poet Laureate of the United States is who, one of the demonstrators in the Berkeley situation who was assaulted by the police there, that’s who – along with other fellow professors marching and demonstrating and protesting with their students – the ones who have used SHAMING to bring down the administrators who authorized the police brutality in the first place, to get them to PUBLICLY APOLOGIZE today & vow to do better – to act from now on with actual EMPATHY for the righteous causes of those protesting.

He’s not the president….

Right, and take away their right to collective bargaining & BANG, they’re immediately on par with second assistant part-time cashiers at WalMart, making 2 bucks an hour under the minimum wage.

And you GD, we already know all about you from the police brutality thread: a deeply damaged coward. What happened to you when you were young, GD? Did you get bullied? Did bullies steal your lunch every  day? Or worse? You really are a miserable excuse for a human.

Really??? The only European country doing well is Germany… wonder what they did a few years ago??? Maybe took care of their welfare obligations problem. Wow… will wonders never cease.

Oh goodie – yet another Creepy slogan to fix everything! 

Reality would seem the better guide.  What do we have to gain from in the long run, supporting a democracy that has made advancements in every field of science basically or the people who have done nothing?  The people who produced their wealth with technology and has advanced society or the people who have exported terrorism in mass?

It’s logic that draws a person to that position.  It’s bigotry and ignorance that draws it to the other.

I thought there was a huge majority that wanted to bring down the deficit and lower government spending. And yet from what I read on here those that want a smaller government are crying about the president promising that the spending cuts are going to happen. Conservatives? I don’t think so.

Creepy was never going to win, that’s not the point. Creepy is there to stand up as a symbol for how twisted the Republican vision of America has become. I want him to stay there, right down to the RNC, to give a key-note speech, right from his self-promoting b.s. ‘self-reliance’ books. I want everyone to see what the wingers have become, so we get motivate to cut out the rot that gave this creep a lifetime career of wingnut welfare.

it’s true, lol.

In which they lowered the top tax rate and pushed off the increases to the middle class. For whatever reason would the democrats have some problem with that compromise.

Facts are facts.  Where are the former terrorists lining up to state you’re right?

Uhhh. what? 

He’s cutting spending, he’s already doing better than your side. 

He said he’ll veto any messing with automatic cuts.

I know, it’s a little scary these people can’t see themselves..

Obama has done everything they want but because he’s black they are against whatever he does, super-bizarro, I bet they don’t even realize. 

Once again, good ol’ liberal philosophy: history isn’t what happened, it’s what we say happened.  Quit lying.

????

I bet the Republicans reading t his don’t even know what to get mad about, lol. It’s out of their talking points purview. He’s cutting spending but they aren’t sure why they don’t like that, QUICK TO FOX NEWS! TELL ME WHY CUTTING SPENDING IS BAD ONLY WHEN OBAMA DOES IT, GO!

says captain can’t-make-a -coherent-statement-without-name-calling

Exactly. 

Well, in fairness, not precisely exactly. What this failure does is find maybe the only way to stop the growth of the military-industrial complex Ike warned the country about. The Bush tax cuts being allowed to expire, RIGHT THERE that’s HUGE budget fix, because that’s where the money is; anyone doubts the President’s courage on that front has to explain THAT, and the fact is, it cannot be explained other than by the fact that he said what he meant and he’s meaning what he said – the sole act of courage in this insanity. The Medicare “cuts” frankly, I’m not all that worried: the ACA comes into effect in 2013 that THAT ALONE subsumes the effects of most of that cutting, and otherwise it and they are a lever to go after the frightening rise of medical CARE costs, brought about by an unbroken “Doc fixes” going back into the 1990s. THAT is the thing that, if not addressed, WILL take down the US government’s ability to do anything for the benefit of the American people. THAT has to be wrestled into submission and the beast tamed. Socialized medical care would have done it, single-payer medical care INSURANCE coverage would have done it, but this is just the way it has to be in money-corrupted Washington DC. 

Hahaha good one!

Who do you have that will defeat him?
LOL

I seriously have no idea what is angering you crazy people about this. He should veto anything that tries to let the Congress weasel out of the debt deal.

I get that you hate the guy. But even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Tamp down the fake outrage already.

Lie, lie, and lie again and it still doesn’t make it true.  Republicans stepped up http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2011/11/a_gop_debt_plan_would_hit_some.html

John-cry-me -a -river -boner

He wasn’t a member of the committee. 

Wishful thinking.LOL

A saftey net amendment?
Are you on drugs?
They must be good.

If you could prove that entitlements weren’t the problem, that’d be great.  If you could disprove hauser’s law, that’d be awesome.  If you could disprove the fact that Republicans were willing to give into some tax increases, such as what Pat Toomey introduced, well, that’d be impossible.  You’re ignoring the facts.

Hah! YOU calling HIM a “loser”! He’s the president of the freaking US of A, you putz; and you, putzy, are posting on a website. Who then is the “loser”?
Also, your notion of “responsibility” is twisted beyond obscurity. He’s now stood right up there, a year before facing re-election, and said, I said it, I meant, and I’m doing it. That IS responsible government, you twerp! If you don’t like it, vote against him (which you’re going to anyway), but if the majority of Americans say, Yeah, I’m with that, then he gets re-elected, and THAT is the essence of representative democratic govenment, what the Revolutionaries in 1776 were after in the first place; THAT is the very definition of responsible government.

Your economic degree was from what school?

Pure high school weak-ass silliness here, folks, from one of the deliberately misleadingly named avatars.

It was 30+%. I don’t think you should talk Mr.talking point.  The stupidity of the right is following the clown car over the cliff.  

The are hypocrites. They only want cuts in the areas of their choosing. Plus, they don’t want the Bush taxes to expire, despite the fact they never should have been passed in the first place.

This gets right to it, asking about Boehner.

Do you memers even have SHORT TERM memory loss now? Congress SPECIFICALLY asked both Obama and Boehner to sit out the Supercommittee proceedings, and they agreed. Do you not read, or is it that you can’t hold thoughts like than in your minds for more than 5 freaking minutes? You can’t go after EITHER Boehner or Obama for “lack of leadership” when Congress – WHICH HOLDS THE POWER IN OUR SYSTEM – tells them, Stay out.

Yeah, quite clever of him, actually. What a SHOCK that the Rs would never agree to anything without the Ds agreeing to pressure the President to betray his vow to the American people to let the hugely destructive Bush tax cuts expire. What VISION that must have taken, after only 3 years of nearly unbroken R obstruction. Wow, he really fox’d those Rs, allowing them to hoist themselves on their own petards.

And no, you do NOT have a bridge to nowhere to sell to ANYONE – the Rs have obstructed all infrastructure projects. And otherwise, you post is internally obscured by your inability to maintain a thought; that second sentence of yours is a classic example of brain decay.

“Liberal media” – just stop with that nonsense; no one buys it any more, not even the meme snakes on your side.

In this thread teabaggers will be against spending cuts because Obama supports them.

Obama was trying to extend the Bush tax cuts for the middle class and the poor under a bargain, but he may have no choice but to let all of the cuts expire. If taxes are going to go up on the wealthy, the GOP would rather they go up on everyone else too because it would be politically unpopular and thus hurt Obama. 

Entitlements are an issue, that’s why Obama put them on the table during the debt ceiling fiasco that led to this. The democrats howled about it, but he didn’t budge. On the other side, Boehner put tax increases on the table, the republicans howled and he pulled them right off the table.

As for the tax increase that I assume your talking about the republicans offering involved taking away the tax credits that help the middle class while lowering the top rates. Be honest with yourself, that’s not a compromise, that’s saying we get what we want and in return we’ll take away what you want.

Stick to your day job: Cleaning toilets.

There are 20 Jobs bills that have passed the House that Harry Reid has tabled in the Senate.  Harry doesn’t seem to want to put Americans back to work…  doesn’t seem to jive with the presidents political campaign.  

http://www.gop.gov/policy-news/11/10/27/summary-of-jobs-bills-stalled

Look, child, I will explain slowly: the single biggest rise in costs in this country is in medical care. To get a handle on that requires government action. The CBO, and every economist in the country, even on your moronic side, says the ACA is a huge step in that direction; take the ACA away, and we are done, finished, kaput, in terms of deficits and budget controls. The ACA is only the FIRST step – in my own view, not nearly the best step, but there we are: It’s a REPUBLICAN idea, that’s where it came from – but it’s the step that has to be taken to get to the NEXT step, which is enabling the people’s representative to speak with one voice in confronting the medical care PROVIDERS whose rising costs are driving this country into a pit of ruination.

What do THINK will happen if the ACA is quashed or repealed? How do you IMAGINE the nation is going to be able to address this, the single most expensive and most rapidly rising cost we face? 

Just tell us: we love “ideas”.

LOL! I thought you wingnuts call Obama a “dictator” when he does congress’s job!  He is doing his job by threatening the idiots with a veto. 

Also hauser’s law has had holes poked in it time and again. The percent of GDP ranges from 15% to 20%. The rate is almost always close to 15% after big tax cuts and close to 20% after increases. That’s a HUGE chunk of cash.

The leader of Congress?

I’m calling bullshit.  Just like the doctor fix, that money will be brought back.  It’s be the medicare fix or similar.  And no, democrats didn’t howl: they passed it(Obamacare which is what cut $500 billion medicare).

That was a compromise.  The problem is, as stupid as republicans are, democrats go above and beyond in trying to out stupid them.  The problem with y’all is you don’t understand anything about economics.  Just start by looking up hauser’s law 

Excellent!

Where in the Constitution do we find the “low taxes” discussed? Just curious. 

Specifically, what is a lie about my post?

American federal taxes are at 50 year lows…Susan. Maybe you should look at the tax rates when Ike was potus in the 50′s during America’s “prime.” Do you know what the 3 biggest drivers of US deficits are? Just wondering…

You had it right and then you let it go. The Euro governments are failing because they’ve gone with the Confidence Faerie on this “austerity” kick. They are NOT failing due to over-costly social safety nets. They ARE failing because the banksters got to the ECB, and are larding up the national govenrment budgets with repayment terms and interest to vulture capitalists, mostly on Wall Street.

We are now in the process of learning that the real story with MFGlobal is not theft of customer monies – after all, the repeal of Glass-Steagall ENABLED that. The REAL story is that MFGlobal is turning out to be canary in the coal mine for the world-wide economic collapse that will happen, I think before Xmas, but certainly within a few months at most, maybe only weeks. MFGlobal was not ALONE in sinking overnight gambles into Euro sovereign debt, the rest of the banksters did the same thing, except THEY are at a much bigger scale and currently are lying low – and lying – hoping the damn thing somehow magically turns around ‘soon’. Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, Bank of America, they are all in up to their necks, and they are all HUGE compared to MFGlobal. If you think MFGlobal was somehow UNIQUE in risking customer deposits on these gambles, think again my friend.

No town, no city, no state, no nation can survive giving into the banksters demands for more and more and higher and higher returns on their extortion schemes. We are watching the Mittens Plan in action, in real time, the Romney approach of affinity fraud and vulture capitalism take down the world economy and the economies of each nation.

You are right. It will not work after 2016 when he’s out. 

Now we see GD turning towards the comfort of genuine American frontier gibberish.

That was the deal FiFy – that is what Congress asked for, in fact demanded.

People can use words all they want, but the fact is: the chart’s consistent, especially when you take into account the late ’90s-early ’90s where it seemed low yet higher.  But I’m sure that’s entirely besides the larger point.  And that point being: who ya gonna trust, me or your lyin’ eyes?

You mean Republicans didn’t take part in that negotiation? 
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/07/31/late-attempt-at-debt-limit-deal-to-avert-default/
Oh. Yes. They did!
Guffaw!

*sigh* AGAIN – folks: Congress told BOTH Boehner and Obama to stay out of these negotiations. 

What’s interesting is that Congress can tell the President to bugger off and stay away any time it wants, because Congress holds the power. But then to also tell BOEHNER the same thing is really really weird, constitutionally speaking, because the Speaker is the highest ranking officer of …. Congress!

So this was done for reasons of cover: Rs figured Americans are not going to accept their President being shut out of this process unless they themselves made a ritual sacrifice, a stupid pointless gesture, which in this case got translated into telling the #1 leader in Congress –  #1 per the constitution, that is – to sit this one out.

It’s STUPID, but then it’s the Stupid party that came up with this P.R.-driven “formula”.

Having an economics degree doesn’t mean you know economics.  Paul Krugman proves that on an almost daily basis(Well, weekly maybe.  How often does he contradict himself?).  Not only that, but there’s this good article http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-11-09/wall_street/30376280_1_recovery-council-of-economic-advisors-professor-christina-romer

The teabag GOP don’t really want to cut spending so if that’s what Obama wants they will oppose it.

Majority are millionaires. Big surprise?

Seriously now, who expected them do something? I sure didn’t.

Well, I’ve been a bit happier with him going back to when this deal got struck and he started touring on the Jobs bill. All he’s doing here is following up on what he said back in the summer: I’m going to be putting my foot down here, and don’t bother testing my will on that. Now he’s just showing he meant what he said. 

But my point is that he stated his position EXTREMELY CLEARLY and in no uncertain terms – so whatever in hell the Rs where thinking in terms of forcing him to pull out the strap, as he said he would, I guess you’d have to ask Grover Nordquist about.

Can have chiz wid dat boloney?

Not sure who Susan is, Vermin.  Well, according to Alan Simpson, Co-Chair of the President’s cover, I mean, debt commission, medicare, medicaid, and social security are eating up everything and the rest is borrowed for.  So, would education fall into that bill?  Ya know, the unreformed, primitive schools that are still crappy despite increased spending which actually has more spending, when added with local and federal, than anything else.  What’s the others I’m missing?

Oops

In a statement, Panetta backed the president’s position, joining Senate
Armed Services Chairman Carl Levin (D-Mich) in calling for Congress as a
whole to take up the challenge in the wake of the supercommittee’s
failure

Utopian stupidity. Since human civilization started, we know that if you give a person power, they will use it at least partly to her or his own benefit, to SECURE his or her own circumstances. That’s just predictable survival behavior, applying to stinkweeds and snails and bees and dog vomit slime moulds as much as human apes. 

The thing is to LIMIT that power – by passing laws and regulations that ENFORCE keeping Big Money out of the business of buying politicians.  

In the nineties it went from 16% at the point when Clinton raised taxes to 20% by the time he left office. Upon Bush coming into office it proceeded to drop right back to just above 15% alongside the Bush tax cuts. My eye’s aren’t lying to me, so I’ll go ahead and believe them.

It’s a poem dumb ass.

Everyone thought there were nukes.  Intelligence wasn’t manipulated.  Ask Joe Wilson, though, you have to be a member of the government to get the truth, otherwise you’ll have to rely on his lies.

America was perceived as weak because of Clinton’s actions.  Read this http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/2010/March/Ex-Terrorist-Gives-CBN-Glimpse-Inside-Al-Qaeda/

Well what in hell do you THINK Panetta could say? He’s a company down-sizer man, like that George Clooney character in that movie last year. He gets brought in to big organizations to make the workers feel better as the place gets down-sized. And he’s great at the role: NO ONE out-panders Leon Panetta when it comes to bureaucracies.

Look, Bob Gates spoke DOZENS of times over the past several years about this coming, that it HAD to come, that it’s INEVITABLE. Maybe you would have preferred Gates have stayed around to actually DO it, to actually direct the orchestra rather than just writing the music and running the rehearsals; that’s a personal preference to you, and you’re welcome to it. But the fact is that Panetta is doing EXACTLY what professional down-sizers do, every time.

Consider this: this would not be happening now if it did not represent the will of Congress, in some twisted version of procedure. There isn’t a realist in leadership in either party that thinks otherwise. Kyl most of all: the person does not live who can out-cynical John Kyl, and he knows it’s coming time for him to get out of Dodge.

What a stupid stupid continuing theme meme this has been. It’s almost like a handshake to wingers now. You can’t even reason with the gormish monstrosity.

That would be you you’re describing in the zombie winger meme, I take it.

http://weaselzippers.us/2011/11/21/russian-news-anchor-gives-obama-the-middle-finger-on-live-tv/

I was speaking of the democrats howling during the debt ceiling negotiations, which they did. The whole of the Obamacare fiasco is a completely different set of grown ass people who are supposed to be in charge of the country acting like middle-schoolers.

He is a dumb ass, just like anyone else who thinks that way.

ROTFLMFAO I will have to give you credit for the most ignorant post I have ever read. Does the name Scooter Libby ring a bell? If they did not know the intelligence was not skewed, why did they try to discredit Joe Wilson by making a run at his wife? Scooter Libby was indicted and convicted on multiple counts of perjury and obstruction of justice as a result of this fiasco. You do know what his position was, don’t you. You are just an ignorant shill. Now go run along.

You do know, at the end of the Clinton years and beginning of the Bush years there was a recession, right?  That was caused by the high taxes.  There’s a trade off between high taxes and slower economy.

Exactly; and this is why the “leading from behind” meme is so inane.

Remember 2009, when the Rs were so self-deluded they figured to embarrass Obama in live televised negotiations in their own hissy, because it was all them against one widdle iddy biddy pwesident. Well, he handed them their hats on that, so they vowed never to do THAT again, it made them look, uh, what’s the word, uh, oh yeah Department of Energy; no, no, I meant, Incompetent and inept and out-classed … STUPID.

So this time, Wiley R Coyote wasn’t going to get squished by the falling rock when his Acme rocket pack failed; THIS time the Wiley R Coyote was going to be really really smart and out-THINK the roadrunner, by math, and plans, and shit – keep him OUT COMPLETELY, so he can do NOTHING.

Well, wrong again Wiley R Coyote, because the roadrunner saw where this was headed months ago and he’s turned out right again. SPLAT!!! Oh boy, that looks painful. But, better luck next time, Wiley R – and thanks for playing!

WHO GIVES A F WHAT THE CONSTITUTION SAYS?THIS IS OUR COUNTRY NOT THEIRS AND WE CAN DO WHAT EVER THE F WE WANT TO DO!!!!!

Do you believe you know more than Paul Krugman about enonomics?
LOL!

Yeah, the government is getting all this tax money and it is causing them to be broke.

Mostly true; a lot of it had happened before WWII, some during that, some more left to go. If people actually UNDERSTOOD was socialism was, they would be less inclined to freak out like a spider landed on their shoulder or something. We don’t have a very SMART version of socialism in America, you’d have to look at the Scandinavian countries to see how smart looks on this; but we have it nonetheless, and have had it for over a half-century. It’s not a COMING threat, it’s pretty much what the TPers were fake-protesting in favor of in 2009-10: Don’t cut my Medicare, Don’t cut my Social Security. Hard to see how TPers do that, but hardening of the arteries and a dark-skinned D president probably explains all that.

Sheesh, 9%, Yoda, REALLY … Congress must have rallied big-time over the weekend.

Actually folks, 9% is below the rate of incidence for serious mental illness in modern human societies, and 9% is WAY below the minimum number of Americans ENTITLED to vote who do not because, and they will tell you this, they don’t give a shit. 

Hey – three 9s there … very very creepy. 

Remind me, what DID Libby do?  Because you seem to pride yourself on your incredible ignorance and stupidity, I’ll do the world a favor and give you a gift: the truth.  Robert Novak was the one who gave her name.  The lady who helped write the law with George H.W. Bush to protect covert agents said there was a time limit to those who were considered covert agents for the protection and Plame was out of it longer than the protective period.  Not only that, but Plame’s identity was compromised when she was working in Europe, so she was pulled.  Further, she worked daily at Langley and covert/clandestine agents don’t work at Langley because the CIA operates under the assumption their building is being spied on.

Now let’s make it to what Scooter was being tried for, shall we?  He was tried for lying because he said something inconsequential to the case about something small from years before.  Do you remember everything you hear from years before?  No.

So, there’s the story.  Now shut the hell up, you stupid bastard.

Nope, but I’m wondering if he knows anything http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/06/paul_krugman_the_selfcontradic.html

You do know that Russians don’t use middle finger that way, but it is funny

You should look up ‘bigot’ before you throw it around.

Watch out for that tornado, Kenny; god is coming to get you.

And yeah…the government should require that you purchase a shelter if you live in tornado alley–cuz us blue states are tired of wiping your nose after your trailer flies away.

And yeah..you can quote me on that!

Is that supposed to be prophetic or something?  Because it’s so clearly not what’s happening.  What we’re doing is bankrupting the gov’t so that all gov’t programs fail.  Then everyone will say (ignoring the fact that they were grossly underfunded), “Look!  Gov’t programs don’t work!”  Then we’ll privatize everything, and everyone will say, “Yeah! The free market at work!”  But it won’t be the free market, in that there won’t be any real competition.  It’ll be big corporations which have Washington in their back pocket.  And the top 5% will make out like bandits while all the rest are hosed. 

Just because people believe that gov’t has a productive role to play doesn’t mean they’re socialist.

To stop America…EXACTLY!

How did Kansas enter the union Kenny? America went into debt with this thing called the Louisiana Purchase.

Think about it–for once. Federal Government. Taxes. Debt. Kenny Think Now!

Look, your trying to turn economics into a simple cause and effect matter to make one side look good and the other bad. If higher taxes were so bad then why was the economy so good under Clinton? If low taxes are so good then why aren’t we coming out of this economic collapse faster after continuing all of Bush’s tax cuts and putting in new one on top?
The fact is that there are millions of causes that control these things and the smartest of the smart economists don’t agree on half of them. Saying the recession in 2000 was caused by Clinton’s taxes isn’t a fact, its a theory. That theory is pushed by right wing economists and the bulk of the rest argue against it which kind of points in the direction of politicization, not sound economic study.

You do realize the spin that the right would have put on things had Obama intervened more and enabled the Super Committee to cut a deal, right?  He’s a thug.  Chicago politics, etc.  But instead he gives the committee the opportunity to do their work and they come up with freaking nothing.  Don’t blame Obama.  Blame Norquist.  He’s the one that got the Repubs to sign that stupid declaration. 

“pathetic failure” haha!

The president is a failure, but you got top score on Call of Duty!

it is caused by tax evasion – should sound familiar

from the article: “[...] 
the congressional leadership has asked that Obama and Speaker Boehner stay away from the negotiations [...]“

actually, poor Iraqis… it’s a long list …

only the congress

your criticism should address congress

and that is relevant how?

Wow.  Obama declares he will protect $1.2 trillion in spending CUTS, and all some folks can do is call him “Marxist.”  Total FAIL.

Translation: “America needs dumbed-down tough-talk, not intelligence.”

It was good under Clinton because he was living off the success of Reagan and Bush.  That stupid saying “It’s the economy, stupid” was stupid because the economy was good.  Look how it was a few years into Reagan’s economy.  It was suffering because of Carter’s choices and was turning around by the next election because of Reagan’s choices.  And to top all that off, as good as the economy was under Clinton, you’re forgetting the massive internet bubble that did pop.

And no, it wasn’t all of Bush’s policies.  That is either a lie or a show of pure ignorance.  It was banks being forced to give out these bad loans by the government through the Community Reinvestment Act.  Even that moron Barney Frank admitted after the collapse that not everyone will be able to have a house, which was an attempt with the CRA.

The smartest of smart economists can’t predict everything for a very good reason: they don’t know why everything does what it does.  That’s why it’s better to let the individual have the money to spend themselves rather than the government.

If the individual was able to operate, largely government free(Note, there needs to be some, I’m no anarchist), will decide better than the government who has no skin in the game.  Take Solyndra, which failed the test, but the government threw money towards.  Now they failed because free market forces were ignored.

If you want the economy to flourish, get the government out of the way, reduce regulations and allow businesses to operate.  The best example of this would be the internet.  Throughout this economic downturn, every sector has been hit, but through it all, e-commerce has succeeded.  And the most obvious difference between the rest is what liberals seem to be arguing against the most: the lack of government intervention.

I thought the GOP was complaining just this past summer that Obama was TOO involved in the debt-ceiling negotiations. Isn’t that why Boehner made his big tantrum?

This time, Obama leaves Congress to take care of their own mandate and – SUPRISE – the GOP still blames their failures on him. Now it’s Obama isn’t involved ENOUGH.

Let me check: Nope, Warren Buffet made no mention tax cheats.  Anyways, you’re wrong.  Read the article I linked somewhere to biggovernment, that was directly addressed.

Obama helped get Osama, helped topple Gadaffi, and captured Anwar al-alwaki…. He’s also very supported by the military.

Also, Republicans and the GOP booed a gay solider at their debates. Do you have a memory span longer than a few days? I mean, it doesn’t matter on a forum but in real life someone will make a real ass of you if you’re so stupid. 

News flash.  The Super Committee is a CONGRESSIONAL committee.  Congress was given the task, and it failed.

Exactly what was he supposed to take responsibility for?  For the super committee’s failure to produce a plan?  Give me a break. 

Are you even aware of how badly the Rs want him to fail?  The only way he would have been able to produce something through his efforts was by just steamrolling the process.  Then what’s the right’s narrative?  “Chicago-style politics.”  “Obama’s a thug.”  Etc.  Of course, he tried to actually negotiate with them, they would have either
A. Drove such a hard bargain that Obama would have had to totally alienate his supporters. 
B. Produced nothing.  And now they’d have an opportunity to blame him for overstepping and failing to allow them to do their job.

I don’t know if you follow the polls, but there’s little indication that he’s getting thrown out next year.  So the Republicans might want to consider how they might work with him.

You’re right:  we definitely need a leader too ignorant to read!  That’s why we should vote for the party that assumes we can’t have both.  Vote Republican, guys!

Fake Tim Tebow=BIGOT.

Oh hey, I didn’t know you were allowed to speak the whole truth on this site!

There’s only one problem:  you’d have to get Congress to vote for that.  LOL

Exactly the same place where the Constitution mentions the right to bear automatic weapons, or congressional regulation of Health Safety Accounts.

Obama FORMED the committee.

No, now they’ll say he hates the troops because he will fight attempts to eliminate the cuts to defense spending.  Cuts which the GOP proposed, I might add.

Blaming Obama is not just a defensive response.  It’s their basic strategy.

President Obama is saying exactly what he said weeks ago – he will not allow Congress to have a shortcut.  The fact that Congress is utterly bogged down by ideology is something that not even the most podium-thumping president can resolve.

Once again your post shows your ignorance. Valerie Plame was not indicted and neither was her husband. So who cares what either one did or did not do in your little version of the world? Scooter Libby was convicted of: one count of lying to a federal agent, one count of obstructing a federal investigation and two counts of perjury in front of a federal grand jury. He was sentenced to 30 months in jail by the federal judge and ol’ Georgie would not pardon him. Anyway you want to spin it, a 30 month sentence is not “inconsequential” because if you get sentenced for this long in the federal system, there is a good chance you will be spending some quality time with Bubba. So, once again genius, run along. Your convenient memory and spinning of obvious facts clearly demonstrates your limited intelligence.

If you want a big military, don’t complain about high taxes.  Being the world’s policeman comes at a very high price.  And it’s a price a lot of us are simply unwilling to pay.

And do not forget – just weeks before 9/11, it was none other than Dick Cheney who proposed even FURTHER cuts to the military.

Here’s the problem with your theory: it was the GOP that had those cuts added to the Super Committee bill in lieu of a trigger for higher taxes.  Perhaps you may want to start with why the GOP loves Grover Norquist more than it loves the military.

the same place youll find minimum wage and social security. I dare you to say you want to get rid of those ‘socialist’ programs.

No those are failing because of free trade. but you go ahead and believe the fox talking points you have memorized.

Im a Republican that is voting against fox and everyone who decided they want the US to fail because they hate the President of the United States just because hes a Black man!

Ill see you at the voting booth!

Down with fox!

thats just not true.

I want a smart leader. a guy who reads and leads. a guy who can win wars without sending a single troop, a guy who doesnt need a bunch of gimmicks to get things done, and a guy who can strengthen healthcare by destroying the for-profit healthcare system!

Oh, this is a Republican not a Democrat saying this!

sure the same time limbaugh and the rest of the people that voted him in last time dont vote him in again. hes lined their pockets with money from idiotic lunatics in my party that hate a man because of his race.

you dont love your country you loathe your country because they are not all bigoted, like you!

Remind me, what policies were used to get the intelligence that led to the death of Osama bin Laden?  But I’m sure that waterboarding was utilized was besides the point, after all, Obama’s already lied about it.  Additionally, I’m sure you know that many in the military/intelligence community immediately criticized Obama because he announced it so quickly, basically ruining the intelligence they gathered which could’ve been used to kill more terrorists, but he almost entirely neutralized it in a quick attempt to get kudos.

He helped topple Gadaffi, but he refuses to claim victory in Iraq(Wasn’t his policy, always hated it, won’t note the troops success).  And, just a side note, remind me who’s taking over in Libya and who’s flag was being waved above a courthouse, I think it was, there?  I’m not sure claiming al Qaeda as the successor to your policies is a good thing at all, but that’s just me.  Gadaffi was evil, but he was the devil we know.  We’re not sure what this next one will be, but the evidence is shaping up that he may be much, much worse.

And he killed Anwar al-Alwaki, not captured.  As I’m sure you know, because of policies enacted by Obama, terrorists are generally captured then released because we have no where to put them because of Obama’s policies.  Not only that, but I’m sure you’re also aware of the fact that terrorists aren’t captured as often, they’re killed, because of the ramifications put upon them by this administration(Remember the SEALs who’s careers were ruined because they supposedly punched a terrorist, the one responsible for stringing up the contractors after burning their bodies, dragging them through the streets, then hanging their bodies from the bridge)?  Yeah…  Oh yeah, also, there’s the investigation of the CIA operatives for using enhanced interrogation techniques.

And I’m not about to defend Santorum, that was disgusting.

And reread what I stated, if that’s not enough to convince you that he’s detrimental to the military and their activities, I certainly can go on.  I can go on about how the SEALs were furious that his administration were talking up the fact that they were behind Operation Neptune Spear.  I certainly could go on about how he doesn’t know how to pronounce corpsman.  Indeed, I could go on about how he ignored the military recommendations on Afghanistan.  Indeed, I could go on, indeed I could…

The point being, do you intentionally ignore the facts?

Pledges inherently are contrary to the spirit of compromise — a primary goal of the “super-committee”.  Anyone who had previously signed an anti-tax pledge should have been ineligible to serve on this committee, for their mere presence would serve as a deterrent to a successful outcome.

Each side proposed stuff they didn’t expect to stay.  So, good luck with that theory of yours.  The republicans were probably sincere, the democrats clearly had no intention of doing anything.  If they did, Obama couldn’t run against the “do nothing Congress.” I’d say good luck with being so naive and stupid, but it seems you’ve embraced it quite well.

READING HARD: KENNY, CAIN, GOP, et al

To be fake is not bigotry, Kenny.

And because the front of your sweet ass Firebired looks like a face doesn’t prove the existence of a god, ok?

You can think, too, Kenny. I know you can…

I hate to cut this short as its pretty rare to have an honest debate with facts involved on here, but I have to go to work so I can fix my own personal economy. As a parting thought, if you believe that Regan inherited Carters economy and Bush inherited Clinton’s problems then you have to accept that Obama inherited this economy from Bush. That said, a good night to you.

I’m sure ATMs, robots, automation, and the like are also hurting them.  Let me guess, that earthquake in Japan hurt them too?  How about that one in the Dominican Republic?  I bet they just didn’t see that one coming.

ouch, that hurts!!!

Indeed, it was nice to have an honest debate.  And yes, I would agree that Bush did cause some problems.  TARP shouldn’t have been enacted.  The free market should’ve been let to play out as was, unfortunately businesses were let in on the belief that they’d always be bailed out.  MF Global would be a perfect example of this mentality since they were heavily invested in European debt.  Anyways, good night.

There never should have been any committee in the first place; a fully disfunctional President and a fully disfunctional congress – the house put up many opportunities to work on this issue, Harry and the dems refused to allow any of them on the senate floor.  harry and the big O want this to fail so they can’t point the finger of blame on the republicans and the idiots in the media will play O’s game for him.

Good thing the public is a lot smarter than the media.

Yes rex the wonder dog, medical expenses are the biggest rising cost and that’s why we need a bill that really addresses cost but doesn’t demean quality. The health care bill raises cost and reduces quality while growing government control over our lives and still does not address the issue of those who do not have insurance. I could care less who came up with the idea first as I am an independent. As for ideas to solve the problems there are a few out there that will help like ability to buy from other states and laws about frivolous lawsuits. But the thing I see getting in the way the most is over regulation and medical malpractice. 20 years ago you could get stitches that came undone after surgery re-done in the office or ER. My husband had to schedule outpatient surgery to get a few undone stitches redone. Get a boil that must be lanced? Can’t get it done in the doctors office anymore. Our doctor used to handle lots of things in the office he now must refer to surgeons. Yes it is long past time to address this issue not to make it worse like the current plan is already doing.

Yes the congress is unpopular but which house, the senate or the representatives? Only one is controled by conservatives and that house is not blocking the bills from being passed.

The Democrat leadership patted themselves on the back and then announced that the money saved by pulling out of Iraq will be spent NOT saved.

 They didn’t attack us because they thought we were weak… what are you talking about? Perceived military might isn’t why we got attacked

They’ve exposed themselves.  They’ve finally shown that they don’t really give a fig about all this “Big gubmint spending too much/defict” stuff.  They just oppose Obama on anything and everything.

–Cobra

Which brand of drugs are you on?  Health Care was increasing at a rate of nearly 10% a year before the 2008 election. “Grow government?” Federal, local and state governments have ALL CUT THEIR BUDGETS over the past two years. Why do you think there are layoffs to cops, firemen, and teachers, genius?

 You and your conservative brethren have no solutions other than to keep giving tax cuts to rich people and corporations who have absolutely NO qualms about outsourcing domestic jobs overseas.

 The GOP and conservative movement is intellectually bankrupt.

–Cobra

You hold the for-profit PRIVATE INSURANCE industry responsible for absolutely nothing in your statements. That’s why you’re being challenged on your claims.

–Cobra

bless you!

You’re an idiot and ignored the fact that Robert Novak, the one who wrote her name wasn’t tried for anything.  Stop being stuck on stupid.

Republicans have created jobs…and Republicans have saved more jobs than would have been lost without them. 

Since when did Robert Novak have the ability to skew federal intelligence? As a result, his involvement, like your other points are not relevant. What is relevant is Scooter Libby lied. Why did he lie genius? He lied in an attempt to cover up the fact Cheney et. al, were going after Joe Wilson. What was Joe doing? He was investigating the basis of the claim there was uranium in an African country. What did his investigation uncover? The fact that this was not accurate and this erroneous report had been used to bolster the case of going to war against Saddam. 

He lied http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25546334/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/t/secret-us-mission-hauls-uranium-iraq/#.TssmHWMk6nA

“Good thing the public is a lot smarter than the media”

You’re right. Polls consistently show that Americans still blame Bush and his cronies for the continuing economic conditions. Furthermore, polls also show that at least two thirds of Americans want tax hikes imposed on the very richest.

So you’re correct. The public knows what’s right. Too bad the Republicons are standing in the way.

Anyone who doesn’t see the single minded effort of Republicans to put this country in the crapper in an effort to oust Obama is deluding themselves. Job one to Republicans is to get a Republican back in the White House so they can continue stealing with both hands. The US suffered a classic “bust out” under the Bush administration and we have yet to dig ourselves out of that hole.  I have not seen a single Republican try any legitimate effort to make this a better country during the Obama administration, every single day there is nothing but more sabotage against this country, dooming all of us, just to get another Republican in the White House. The most amazing part is reading so many people here, cheering wildly while their  throats are cut.  It’s astounding. 

I read it.

You want someone that doesn’t exist on the current stage.

You need to be cured of right wing stupidity.  

Is that numbnuts or moosenuts?  Liberalism….the gift that keeps on giving my money to other people.  Thanks, big guy.

Boehner was elected to “create” jobs?  Conservatives don’t go into a voting booth with that mindset, dumbass.

Your first mistake is in assuming that liberals give a shit if were attacked. As long as Mo gets his welfare check on the 1st and the 15th, he couldn’t care less.

Oh look, CaptainPopcorn liked your post. I bet that’ll help you sleep tonight.

Really?? What’s poetic about it? 

These “people” would support Obama no matter what he did.  I get the feeling if Obama showed up at their homes and pooped on their couches, they would put the turd in a jar and worship it until the sun burns out.

Liberalism = Epic Fail

The stupidity of the left was electing the current Clown In Chief.  You know, the same one that is destroying the country…AKA Obozo.

The clowns are the ones that are on stage night after night making fools out of themselves.  

You mean the idiot behind the TOTUS?

Please…never use Democrat and leadership in the same sentence.  It is not possible for the two to go together.

Ooooh them’s fighting words.

Obama can now go take a nap…..again.

You, I like you.

That is all.

Okay, maybe not.  It is quite refreshing to see that Fox News’s stranglehold on republican politics isn’t as complete as it sometimes seems.

I doubt that most of the conservatives commenting on this site are in the top 10% of tax payers.  So I question why you continue to defend the behavor of your party.  There is no doubt in my mind that most Republican Senators and House Republicans are more interested in their careers than whats best for America.  Lets face it we have 3 options 1. Raise taxes on the top 10% 2. do a hatchet job on social programs and defense 3. Do nothing and let the country tank. As I see it  the Republicans have sold their souls to the devil and refuse to raise taxes.  They have obviously signed the Grover Norquist pledge. I question the motives of any politcian who signs any pledge.
 Bush put the Bush Tax cuts into play in 2003 and it has done nothing to improve the economy or jobless claims. To the contrary, it was an unfunded program and has added about 1.5 trillion to our deficit since its inception.  I challenge anyone to show me any jobs the Bush tax cuts have created.

This is sadly true.  I miss the republican party, I enjoy discussing things with people who disagree with me.  Currently the best you can get is someone who won’t even listen to what you have to say and just keeps repeating the same point over and over again.

It’s not that hard of a conclusion to draw.  Remember that Mitch McConnel (I hope I spelled that right) said that the primary objective of this congress was to make Obama a one-term president.  What they fail to realize is that this tactic has backfired spectacularly.  It becomes painfully obvious when you see just how many of their own ideas the current set of republicans have decided to reject simply because Obama endorsed them.

I want to be like you when I grow up.
(is 22)

Wow, so much fail in just one sentence.  It is the *governments* that are broke antonio, that’s what is meant when a country is described as broke.

Now, try that again, but without the fail this time.

who the what now?

 So unworthy of reading you’ll comment on it? Wow, that’s intellect beyond comparison. Genius on full display.

At this point, cobra and 26 other simpletons have the same problem with intellect.

You must at least admit that Grover Norquist had a lot to do with this.  After all, it was his pledge that kept the republicans from proposing or accepting any increase in taxes anywhere whatsoever.

I sure hope that the Cancer in the White House is enjoying flying around on Air Force One on our dime, so he and his wife the Moocher can go on their expensive shopping sprees, and visit all of the Muslim and American-hating nations that the Cancer lived in as he was growing up. Because, come January 2013, that all ends, and he and the Moocher and his kids the Moochettes and the rest of their union cronies, thieves, creepos, nuts, putz, and futz will be headed back to Illinois and into retirement, so Mr. Cancer can go back into business with his good pal Tony Rezko, and march against the Jews with Jeremiah Wright, and plant bombs against civilians with Bill Ayers.

“Well, he handed them their hats on that…”

I seem to remember something…

Oh, yeah. Which party won control of the House in 2010, and almost won control of the US Senate that same year?

That’s right…it was the Republicans. Princess Nancy Shmancy, the Speaker and C*nt, was sent into minority status. Remember that? I bet you can!

Now, for a real toughie. Ready?

Which President is less popular than syphilis right now? Here’s a clue: His name starts with an “O,” and his name rhymes with “Osama.”

Got it yet?

Now here’s a real hard one, and we are not talking about Bill Clinton’s dick. Ready?

Which party has 23 seats up in the US Senate, and which party has members, when the President, whose name starts with “O” and whose name rhymes with “Osama,” goes into their state to campaign, or make a gigantic fool of himself, who refuse to campaign at the side of the President whose name starts with “O” and whose name rhymes with “Osama.”

Figured it out yet?

You got it…it is the Democrats. And the President? His name is Jimmy Carter, Jr., er, Barack Obama.

You did so well on today’s show, “That Loser Party”! Come back and play again!

Grover Norquist, really, is that the best you got.  Wow, until George Soros told his media slaves to use Grover, no one knew about him.  Say were you watching 60 minutes, did they say Grover was the “Big S”?   I was hoping for another wack at the K’bros or something. 

You know what I find amazing is that in none of your options you mentioned getting spending under control.  But you don’t want spending under control, do you.  How about we kill base line budgeting instead, no no that would be to hard. In case you missed it, we just went past the 100% debt to GDP line today.  As for the Despotic, Satanic, War Criminal Tax cuts, you had better get a grip.  If you are making as little as 30K to 40K you will be the rich and you will be tax raped.  I was making 40K at the time and my family saw a 3K jump because of those benefit the rich only tax cuts.  As far as jobs created, it would not matter how much proof there was, you would not believe it.  Why bother.  You just keep bleating for El Presidente, he will take care of you.

You know which politicians motives I question, those that have clearly violated their oath of office, not some crappy pledge.  I question any politican that votes themselves a pay raise.  I dispise any politician that engages in activites that are illegal, unless you are in congress because they wrote the rules in order to exempt themselves.  A frakin tax pledge, what a joke.  You know what, move to China, I hear the commies have a few empty cities available.

What a complete load of shit!

TeaBaggers are such simpletons!

HILARIOUS!!!!

That crazy tax cut at the time of war will always be a burden. Unpaid medicare exchange they passed, and unnecessary tax cuts nobody asked for. Yup, you can always trace them back to ‘W’ cause he turned a surplus to a deficit which the country is still suffering from. Understand? 

Finally having some backbone. These guys are just playing games, they have no interest in cutting the dificit they helped ramped up to begin with. 

Obama’s base is the rabble of the country. As you can tell on here, he is hard at work rousing them.

Polls, schmolls…..polling in this country is equally as ridiculous as the media; they cheat with their sampling to put forth a result they want in order to influence the result, not report it.

Face it, Obama is not a leader in any way shape or form.  He is the class welfare king, period.  He wants redistribution of the wealth, just like he said in the campaign. 

You mean the Germany that’s had public health care for over a century is thriving? 

You have to be the biggest dumbass on this site. Where did I blame Obama ??? It’s not that I don’t…but where in my post did I specifically blame him ?? You are like most Libs/Progs…you make up statements for those you disagree with, and then blast them for statements they didn’t make. This is exactly why I don’t use this site, or any site, for debate. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE AN HONEST DEBATE WITH A LIB/PROG !!!

The $6.5 trillion he and the Republicans added to the national debt 2001-fy2009? Yeah – that hurt.  The decline in personal and corporate income tax revenue? 25% and 57% respectively, Yeah – that hurt.  Eight years of slash and burn simplistic economic theory that spectacularly failed? Priceless – well, not priceless.  We’ll be paying for Bush and the Republicans for a long, long time.

BS !!
Income Inequality Is Code For Lazy People Who Don’t Want To Work Hard To Make It !!
Your Ass Just Backfired !! Peeyuuu!!!

Better than the hypocrite Teabaggers who say they want to cut, but do a full 180 whenever their sacred cows will be affected.

Yeah, I’ll probably just start a war or two and then cut taxes.  What you say?  That’s not sound fiscal policy for the present and future?

Thanks Republicans for destroying our country.

The house has passed 22 jobs bills. They are all sitting on Harry Ried’s desk, but he refuses to vote on a single one of them. Of course, you probably have no idea because you believe whatever you are told by the lying democrats and their media.

He’s the guy sitting in the Big Chair. He’s supposed to be leading. He’s not. I hear Bali is nice this time of year, though.

“WHO GIVES A F WHAT THE CONSTITUTION SAYS?”

There you go folks — the modern “liberal”. They hate everything that made this country great.

22 jobs bills. Try to keep up.

http://www.speaker.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=267882

GFY

The left compromises less than 30% pf registered voters.
He got just a few more votes than that.

You used to be funny.

Does anyone here believe Bill Clinton would have been absent from something as important as this?

GOOD THING TOO.
My unemployed friends now sleep better at night knowing that the American Motto is “in God we trust”

Wow
Cool
I believe you, but could you post some links so the book lernin Libs can read them?

republicans destroying country – hmmm – You think you might be a bit off your game today?
Republicans – attempting to be fiscally responsible
Democrats – let’s go – we’ve got Mommy’s credit card!

Is Obama a republican?  Is Harry Reid a republican?  You remind of a bully – “you made me do it” mentality.  

I love how you invoke “the public” in one post and then denigrate their opinions in another.

Keep up the good work, Tina. You still make no sense.

Personally, I am so sick of listening to his speeches with the weird teleprompter cadence.  I am always so distracted by how contrived his speech is and not natural, that I don’t hear the words any more.  

Actually, what we can tell here is that the Foxtards like you and Tina remain ill-informed on the issues and only know how to repeat the narrative they’ve been given:

http://www.mediaite.com/online/that-ill-informed-fox-news-viewer-poll-actually-its-based-on-proven-methodology/

“Republicans – attempting to be fiscally responsible”… starting when??

You must think engaging in 2 Wars and not paying for them is fiscally responsible!! Lol!!

Are Republicons even intelligent enough to know what a “Veto” is?? I doubt it!!

Also, the Republicons can kiss the Bush Tax Cuts goodbye!! Lol!!

Message to Republicons in Congress: Go Suck It!!

So let me address each of your issues:
1. Grover Norquist- so your ok with lobbyist like Norquist holding our congressmen hostage and blackmailing them into voting their way.

2. None of my options had spending control because I was address the current issue not the long range issue.  I completely agree that we need to methodically go through Washington and get rid of the waste. As for your tax example it is completely bogus. You don’t say what tax reform was used in your tax example.  If I were to guess it was the Reagon plan which is why they called it Voodoo economics.

3. I agree with most of what you said relative to politicians motives however you are naive if you ignore the power of lobbyist and what they do to the system. Pledges are distructive not constructive. 

Its great if the polls work in your direction polls, if they work against your cause they are awful.  As for the Obama Michele and the 7 dwarfs are not what I would call an alternative.  The country can not survive another 4 years of failed Republican policies.  We are still bailing out of the last 8

It didn’t in 2008…. You see the Democratic party is not the disfunctional family the GOP is.

In January 2007, 35% of Americans approved of the Democratic ran Congress compared to a 21% prior when the Republicans ran the congress.

Michele and the 7 dwarf’s are a good alternative?????????

You were never funny…or subsantitive.

That was before the Dems took control in 2007 idiot!! Then it sunk to 11%!! Facts are facts!!

Budget cuts already proposed by President Obama
and those that could take effect if the “supercommittee” in Congress fails to
agree on $1.5 trillion in deficit reduction could cut the defense budget more
than $1 trillion over the next 10 years, devastating U.S. military
capabilities. The Congress, as currently configured, is unlikely to allow such
deep cuts in defense; but that doesn’t mean they eventually won’t happen. Despite
our debt, America still has
vast resources, but there’s growing disagreement on what we should spend them
on, what threatens us, and the missions the U.S.
armed forces should undertake, with one side of the argument wanting to cut America down to
size.  http://www.ewross.com/cutting_defense_and_america_down_to_size.htm

Those are not the facts, but of course you righties don’t believe in facts. 

Barack Obama = Epic Fail

What is it with REPS and George Soros? The only thing he did to you is try a dethrone Gorege W. Had he been successful  we wouldn’t be having some these ugly discussions.

In an interview with The Washington Post on November 11, 2003, Soros said that removing President George W. Bush from office was the “central focus of my life

I think that was the objective of many. 

You really cant handle it can you?  You spit trash every day, and when someone throws it back at you, you come unglued.  You are just another typical Arrogant elitist from the Left who believes only you hold the wisdom of the world,  You dont, never did and dont look too good for your future.   

Your Master in chief never ever intended the committee to ever reach a solution.  He needed desperately to be able to let those Military cuts go into effect.  Typical idiot leftist. Now no matte what they come up with, he says he will veto it.  Way to go obama,  just what I figured.  Whats amazing to me is how many of you fools think he has a clue what to do to fix his monumental problem.  He dont, never will.  He is a liberal to the bone and that means the ONLY thing he knows is TAX and SPEND.  He will end up taking us all down the tubes.  So get ready hes already sucking you in.