I believe everything Howard writes. He called Glenn Beck despicable for his story on a 14 year old Soros, so he is very credible.

He knows a douchebag when he sees one.

Olby better watch it . Roland Martin is just a pager buzz away . …

Glenn Beck is courageous and he is correct on Soros .

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/11/soros_beck_and_the_holocaust.html

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
I believe everything Howard writes. He called Glenn Beck despicable for his story on a 14 year old Soros, so he is very credible.

He knows a douchebag when he sees one.

I tend to agree with you about Kurtz, and I am appalled about the Soros comment. Murdoch is pure slime for letting Beckerhead continue unchecked.

Big Eddie said:
Olby better watch it . Roland Martin is just a pager buzz away . … Glenn Beck is courageous and he is correct on Soros . http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/11/soros_beck_and_the_holocaust.html

Hey Big Eddie haven’t you figured out that one can find a link to back up anything they want to preach to the choir. There are many sources out there that spew garbage for the right and for the left. All one has to do is look at the site name and know what is coming. If I wern’;t so lazy I could do what sara does and post tons of links to tell you my side. Waste of time.

Ouch. Seems pretty bad. Makes you wonder though how truthful the article is. I don’t think MSNBC will fire Keith. If they do, plenty of liberals will stop watching the network in droves.

BlackWidow said:
There are many sources out there that spew garbage for the right and for the left.

Except Big Eddie’s sources are written by impartial , educated , worldly scholars , and Miss Widow ‘s sources are typed by rabid leftist monkeys wif a attitude .

BlackWidow said:
All one has to do is look at the site name and know what is coming.

That’s all you have to do if you’re an idiot. Reasonable people will often read the piece and then decide what to think of it.

Big Eddie, that’s an excellent piece. Thanks for the link.

Ironic, MSDNC has an opinion on which direction the country should go, but are unable to competently run a network. Is this called leaning forward…. ??

Ummm apparently plenty of liberals must have alreadt left in droves given Olbermann’s numbers these days.

The end of this peice says it all as far as who and what Olbermann is and what his mental state is,that he’ll be attacking another person who expressed an opinion unfavorable to him.Not to his causes or ideology,his politics etc etc but to HIM.

Bobomatic said:
C has an opinion on which direction the country should go, but are unable to competently run a network. Is this called leaning forward…. ??

Leaning forward is the first part of doing a faceplant.

I have to say it took a lot longer for the classic Olby Meltdown this time. Maybe he’s getting calmer in his old age.

You libs and your Faux outrage at Glenn Beck’s Soro’s comment are humorous. He did a series on his life and use Soros’ OWN words to support what he said. He said he doesn’t pass any judgements on what he did at age 14, it was just an important part of his history that made him who he was. It was Soro’s that said it was the best year of his life, which is a little weird. It appears it makes you libs really angry when Beck gets close to the truth.

I’m pretty much perpetually down on Olbermann, but I have to say that this is nothing but a silly soap opera. When compared to the Beckerhead Soros matter and Murdoch and Ailes’ non-responsiveness to it all, we all know where the slime oozes. What utterly despicable human refuse Murdoch, Ailes and Beckerhead are. There is no place for them in decent company.

I wonder if Keith hears that train coming.

U.S. regulators have proposed anti-trust conditions as they aim to complete a review of Comcast Corp’s proposed deal to buy NBC Universal by the end of the year, the Wall Street Journal reported on Sunday.

King says:

What utterly despicable human refuse Murdoch, Ailes and Beckerhead are. There is no place for them in decent company

Translation: Man we hate it when Beck shows the truth the light of day.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
You libs and your Faux outrage at Glenn Beck’s Soro’s comment are humorous. He did a series on his life and use Soros’ OWN words to support what he said. He said he doesn’t pass any judgements on what he did at age 14, it was just an important part of his history that made him who he was. It was Soro’s that said it was the best year of his life, which is a little weird. It appears it makes you libs really angry when Beck gets close to the truth.

Pretty despicable yourself, Michelle-in-Utah. That comment was utterly vile. No one should be defending Beckerhead over this. There is no defense. I well understand that you enjoy Beckerhead’s vicious word games, but what it comes down to is simple. You both love children. Until they’re born. You both love Jews. As long as they stay in Israel.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
King says:

What utterly despicable human refuse Murdoch, Ailes and Beckerhead are. There is no place for them in decent company

Translation: Man we hate it when Beck shows the truth the light of day.

I won’t apologize for disdaining anti-Semitic trash like Beckerhead, nor for the slime that enables him, like Ailes, Murdoch and you.

Hey King, if he’s SO anyti-semetic, why did Abe Foxman himself write Beck a letter thanking him for being a friend to the jewish community? The left’s tactic of calling those who point out Soros’ OWN words despicable to SHUT UP THE TRUTH just isn’t going to work anymore. Nice try though!

Oh and PS, you and BFD and called me despicable and scum for quoting Soros’ OWN words, which is funny since you two are behind the most vile comments towards me.

BlackWidow said:
If I wern’;t so lazy I could do what sara does and post tons of links to tell you my side. Waste of time.

If you were not so dumb you might be able to tell the truth and quit hiding behind that phony name.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Oh and PS, you and BFD and called me despicable and scum for quoting Soros’ OWN words, which is funny since you two are behind the most vile comments towards me.

Have I ever called you a Nazi-loving collaborating Jew, Michelle-in-Utah? Please cite.

The Real Royal King said:
What utterly despicable human refuse Murdoch, Ailes and Beckerhead are. There is no place for them in decent company

Soros is the demon and a lying scumbag just like RRK. RRK, why are you here? You don’t belong in decent company.

Intellectually dishonest again, Michelle-in-Utah. You forgot to include the latest from Mr. Foxman.

“ADL National Director Abraham Foxman says Beck’s remarks about Soros’ childhood were “inappropriate, offensive and over the top.”

http://www.twincities.com/celebrities/ci_16617345

Your hate is well documented King. No need for me to repeat it. And again, you going after those with vile attacks because they use Soros’ OWN words isn’t going to work. You’d better head back to the Daily Kos and see if they’ve come up with a new tactic for the day. That one is an EPIC FAIL!

gordonbloyershow said:
If you were not so dumb you might be able to tell the truth and quit hiding behind that phony name.

Blower it sounds like you have some obsession as to my real identity. Ahhhhh me thinks you “like” me and wants to get to know me better. Gordon, I am not your type. Trust me on that one. Why else would you keep asking for my personal information if you didn’t want to get to know me better. ;-)

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Your hate is well documented King. No need for me to repeat it. And again, you going after those with vile attacks because they use Soros’ OWN words isn’t going to work. You’d better head back to the Daily Kos and see if they’ve come up with a new tactic for the day. That one is an EPIC FAIL!

Whatever, Michelle-in-Utah. Collect all the trash you want. You deserve it.

Pablo says:

“Leaning forward is the first part of doing a faceplant.”

We’re not laughing with you Olby, we are laughing at you really hard!!!!!!!

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Your hate is well documented King. No need for me to repeat it. And again, you going after those with vile attacks because they use Soros’ OWN words isn’t going to work. You’d better head back to the Daily Kos and see if they’ve come up with a new tactic for the day. That one is an EPIC FAIL!

Have you ever been to KOS Michele? They actually have rules over there for posters. I have yet to see any language or sillyness like what happens on here.

Well then Spider Lady, I’m guessing your have trouble commenting there, what with your love of the F bomb. Hey, last week, after you called me full of hate for the upteenth time, i asked for an example and then posted a few of your select hate-filled comments. Were you able to find any of mine?

How is Beck an anti-Semite for pointing out what Soros said/did? Where is Beck wrong?

KROFT: (Voiceover) And you watched lots of people get shipped off to the death camps.

Mr. SOROS: Right. I was 14 years old. And I would say that that’s when my character was made.

KROFT: In what way?

Mr. SOROS: That one should think ahead. One should understand and — and anticipate events and when — when one is threatened. It was a tremendous threat of evil. I mean, it was a — a very personal experience of evil.

KROFT: My understanding is that you went out with this protector of yours who swore that you were his adopted godson.

Mr. SOROS: Yes. Yes.

KROFT: Went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from the Jews.

Mr. SOROS: Yes. That’s right. Yes.

KROFT: I mean, that’s — that sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to the psychiatric couch for many, many years. Was it difficult?

Mr. SOROS: Not — not at all. Not at all. Maybe as a child you don’t — you don’t see the connection. But it was — it created no — no problem at all.

KROFT: No feeling of guilt?

Mr. SOROS: No.

http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=43876

George Soros’s father asked a Christian in Hungary to adopt his son, make him his godson. And George Soros used to go around with this anti-Semite and deliver papers to the Jews, and confiscate their property, and then ship them off. And George Soros was part of it. He would help confiscate the stuff. It was frightening. Here’s a Jewish boy helping send the Jews to the death camps.

I am certainly not saying George Soros enjoyed that, even had a choice—I mean, he’s 14 years old. He was surviving. So I’m not making a judgment, that’s between him and God.

… But you think there would be some remorse as an 80-year-old man, or a 40-year-old man, or a 20-year-old man. When it was all over, you would do some soul searching and say, “What did I do? What did I do?”

The Real Royal King said:
I won’t apologize for disdaining anti-Semitic trash like Beckerhead, nor for the slime that enables him, like Ailes, Murdoch and you.

Easy King, someone is gonna alert campus security about your instability. Hate to see ya go off in the school cafeteria.

BlackWidow said:
Have you ever been to KOS Michele? They actually have rules over there for posters. I have yet to see any language or sillyness like what happens on here.

Have you seen some of the lovely ones about Megyn Kelly from HuffPo?
http://johnnydollar.us/files/101113fhwir.php

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
You libs and your Faux outrage at Glenn Beck’s Soro’s comment are humorous.

Not to mention when Soros has made comments like this in the past:

Soros Said That President Bush’s Statements Remind Him Of Nazi Slogans. “When I hear Bush say, ‘You’re either with us or against us,’ it reminds me of the Germans.” It conjures up memories, he said, of Nazi slogans on the walls, Der Feind Hort mit (‘The enemy is listening’). “My experiences under Nazi and Soviet rule have sensitized me,” he said in a soft Hungarian accent. (Laura Blumenfeld, Soros’s Deep Pockets vs. Bush, The Washington Post, November 11, 2003)
http://www.sorosmonitor.com/absolutenm/templates/news.aspx?articleid=33&zoneid=1

sarainitaly said:
How is Beck an anti-Semite for pointing out what Soros said/did? Where is Beck wrong?

http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=43876

It is utterly unbelievable how unspeakably vile you and Michelle-in-Utah are, Tumbleweed. We all recognize what scum Beckerhead is. That you and Michelle-in-Utah rush to defend his every emission is one matter, but to carry on this wretched campaign against a man who, as a boy, had the temerity to try to survive the Holocaust is in itself inhumane. It turns the two of you into little more that Holocaust Deniers. And, to what end? To bolster the image of the despicable Beckerhead. Truly, I say unto you, even you are better than this. Surely.

sarainitaly said:
Have you seen some of the lovely ones about Megyn Kelly from HuffPo?
http://johnnydollar.us/files/101113fhwir.php

Which has what to do with Kos, Tumbleweed.

And, the Koldys’ PHOX Phan Klub? Please. Don’t debase this site with such a link.

Soros in1998:

KROFT: No feeling of guilt?

Mr. SOROS: No.

Beck:
“I am certainly not saying George Soros enjoyed that, even had a choice—I mean, he’s 14 years old. He was surviving. So I’m not making a judgment, that’s between him and God.

… But you think there would be some remorse as an 80-year-old man, or a 40-year-old man, or a 20-year-old man. When it was all over, you would do some soul searching and say, “What did I do? What did I do?”

I ask again, How is Beck an anti-Semite for pointing out what Soros said/did? Where is Beck wrong?

sarainitaly said:
Soros in1998:

KROFT: No feeling of guilt?

Mr. SOROS: No.

Beck:
“I am certainly not saying George Soros enjoyed that, even had a choice—I mean, he’s 14 years old. He was surviving. So I’m not making a judgment, that’s between him and God.

… But you think there would be some remorse as an 80-year-old man, or a 40-year-old man, or a 20-year-old man. When it was all over, you would do some soul searching and say, “What did I do? What did I do?”

I ask again, How is Beck an anti-Semite for pointing out what Soros said/did? Where is Beck wrong?

By your low standards “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion” is not anti-Semitic, my little Holocaust Denier.

big ass *eyeroll*

Soros in1998:

KROFT: No feeling of guilt?

Mr. SOROS: No.

Beck:
“I am certainly not saying George Soros enjoyed that, even had a choice—I mean, he’s 14 years old. He was surviving. So I’m not making a judgment, that’s between him and God.

… But you think there would be some remorse as an 80-year-old man, or a 40-year-old man, or a 20-year-old man. When it was all over, you would do some soul searching and say, “What did I do? What did I do?”

I ask again, How is Beck an anti-Semite for pointing out what Soros said/did? Where is Beck wrong?

sarainitaly said:
Have you seen some of the lovely ones about Megyn Kelly from HuffPo?http://johnnydollar.us/files/101113fhwir.php Not to mention when Soros has made comments like this in the past: Soros Said That President Bush’s Statements Remind Him Of Nazi Slogans. “When I hear Bush say, ‘You’re either with us or against us,’ it reminds me of the Germans.” It conjures up memories, he said, of Nazi slogans on the walls, Der Feind Hort mit (‘The enemy is listening’). “My experiences under Nazi and Soviet rule have sensitized me,” he said in a soft Hungarian accent. (Laura Blumenfeld, Soros’s Deep Pockets vs. Bush, The Washington Post, November 11, 2003)http://www.sorosmonitor.com/absolutenm/templates/news.aspx?articleid=33&zoneid=1

sara, you can check out KOS. You won’t get a disease if you just lurk around there. I promise.

Hey Spider Lady,
Did you catch this on your beloved Daily Kos:

The “American Dream” is a worldwide viral phenomenon – with many more potentially dire consequences than AIDS or Avian Flu. We have exported this thing from one end of the earth to the other – it’s like the gifted puppy that can never be housetrained, it grows up, still, so cute and familiar – your proud of your gift, it craps on the floor and tears down the curtains – it’s [sic] new owners overlook the crap; the dog is so cute – however, you can’t get over the crap and torn curtains when you visit.

This past weeks [sic] election was a referendum on the puppy. The rhetoric and the outcome were very predictable: The folks that are still very proud of the puppy were very persuasive and voted, most of us other folks – stayed home.

sarainitaly said:
big ass *eyeroll*

That explains a great deal about your world view, Tumbleweed.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Oh and PS, you and BFD and called me despicable and scum for quoting Soros’ OWN words, which is funny since you two are behind the most vile comments towards me.

You have 0 sense of humor Michele! Haven’t you heard that laughter is good for the soul?

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Hey Spider Lady,
Did you catch this on your beloved Daily Kos:

The “American Dream” is a worldwide viral phenomenon – with many more potentially dire consequences than AIDS or Avian Flu. We have exported this thing from one end of the earth to the other – it’s like the gifted puppy that can never be housetrained, it grows up, still, so cute and familiar – your proud of your gift, it craps on the floor and tears down the curtains – it’s [sic] new owners overlook the crap; the dog is so cute – however, you can’t get over the crap and torn curtains when you visit.

This past weeks [sic] election was a referendum on the puppy. The rhetoric and the outcome were very predictable: The folks that are still very proud of the puppy were very persuasive and voted, most of us other folks – stayed home.

This is like unto denying the Holocaust, Michelle-in-Utah? I think not.

How about these ditties from the DK, spider lady, are any of them you:

Given that they are such a small minority in this nation, it is odd that so many of our fellow citizens see them as such a threat. Yes, the 9/11 attacks were horrific, but they were more about optics than actual harm. The economy was already taking a hit before the Twin Towers fell. The reaction of the nation to seeing two major buildings in New York fall on T.V. has boosted the attack out of proportion. While the loss of even a single life is to be condemned and the devastation these deaths caused the families of those killed, more than this number of teens are killed every year in car crashes. These are also tragic losses but we do not make the kind of high profile issue of it that the 9/11 attacks are.

Find an issue and whip up hysteria, without consideration of the long term affects or what might be lost by the tactic. It is just another of the legion of reasons why the modern Republican Party can not be trusted with the government of the United States or any single state for that matter. The radicalization they claim will come from mosques is just a pale reflection of the radicalization that has occurred in the ranks of their Party. If there is a group to fear, it is Radical Republicans, which is basically to say the most of the Republican Party at this point.

You have no idea how lucky we are that this tactic of “bringing the war home” has not happened in America except only once so far. We have been just plain LUCKY so far — that Middle Easterners, Latin Americans, Africans and Asians haven’t dragged any more of Eisenhower’s or Johnson’s or Nixon’s or Reagan’s or Bush’s or Obama’s wars out of the streets of cities like Saigon, Mogadishu, Gaza, San Salvador, East Timor, Santiago, Shanghai, Baghdad, Tehran, Brazzaville, Port-au-Prince and Kabul and into the streets of our American cities.

We have been very lucky that, so far, we have only suffered just one 9-11 — when you consider the many past decades of America’s habitual and continual shabby treatment of “Others” all over the world.

You Right-Wingers may not care what happens to yourselves as a result of your constant agitation and hate, but please stop putting MY life in danger.

If you listen to this guy and you believe a single word he says, you’re an idiot. A lost cause. I’m not talking to you and I’m not writing this for your benefit. You are proof of the 1/4 paradigm. Common sense and logic are lost on you. The 1/4 paradigm are those that still supported Nixon after he was forced to resign. The 25% percent who still believed in the idiot Dumbya when he left office and the rest of us in a s–tstorm. You people are incurably stupid. You still think Jesus Christ will be here to save you personally before you die. I’m not talking to you. As far as I’m concerned, you people are worthless human stains who’s only potential contribution to anything at all would be polluting the gene pool.

And you do. You reproduce without thought and it really worries me. A whole ‘nother round headed generation of thick tongued, uneducated, bible thumping backward ass morons.

This is all been great fun. I’d debate the slow eyed prick bastard any day of the week. Seriously, at a moments notice I’d take him on, and if were allowed to talk, I’d destroy him. I would wipe the airwaves with him and I’m by no means an exception. Just about any one of the 95% percent of Americans that don’t listen to him could acquit themselves quite nicely if given the opportunity. We all know that’s not going to happen; callers with an opposing point of view on the “EIB” network are about as common as OxyContin addicts in the mesozoic era.

But the point is this. He’s dangerous. Because of him and egregious a–holes of his ilk, we have a bunch of mouth breathing idiots walking around calling themselves the Tea Party. We have Sharron Angle and Rand Paul and a growing number of oxygen starved brains that are willing to resort to violence because of an ideology that they haven’t the capacity to even grasp.

They are the mentally handicapped. Unable or unwilling to think for themselves and all too inclined to let a semi clever reptile do what they honor as the intellectual heavy lifting. They will listen and follow and worship, no matter what.
Let him have his little universe. What would America be like with a blackout of all things S—smear? Think about it. A much better place. F— this piece of s—. Shut him down and shut him out. Pay no attention. Keep moving. Nothing to see here.

Crackheads will be crackheads and will sooner or later overdose on crack and there is not a thing we can do about it.

What were you saying about their rules of conduct?

BlackWidow says:
Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Oh and PS, you and BFD and called me despicable and scum for quoting Soros’ OWN words, which is funny since you two are behind the most vile comments towards me.

You have 0 sense of humor Michele! Haven’t you heard that laughter is good for the soul?

Please tell me, Spider Lady, what humor I’m missing when someone mocks the death of someone very close to me and tells me I wish death on others? Maybe to you that’s funny, but not in my world.

sarainitaly said:
BlackWidow said:
Have you ever been to KOS Michele? They actually have rules over there for posters. I have yet to see any language or sillyness like what happens on here.

Rules they established because the comments were so flippin vile. The comments and the diaries are vile at Kos. And they ban people who disagree with their view points.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/7/23/131549/579
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2007/07/23/disgraceful-anti-military-blog-daily-kos-armed-forces-creating-serial
http://www.therightscoop.com/banned-from-posting-comments-on-the-daily-kos

BlackWidow said:
sara, you can check out KOS. You won’t get a disease if you just lurk around there. I promise.

Kos is vile.

sarainitaly said:
I ask again, How is Beck an anti-Semite for pointing out what Soros said/did? Where is Beck wrong?

The Real Rabid Kook said:
By your low standards “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion” is not anti-Semitic, my little Holocaust Denier.

Wait, it’s you that’s flipping out about that period being mentioned. The denial is all yours, Kook.

The Real Royal King said:
That explains a great deal about your world view

http://www.mediaite.com/online/losing-helen-thomas/#comment-69439

i am quite satisfied, and secure, with my world view.

Pablo said:
Wait, it’s you that’s flipping out about that period being mentioned. The denial is all yours, Kook.

he is such a freakin moron.

When I first read the Kurtz piece, my instinct was that the story may have been put out there by people friendly with Zucker and Griffin because it helps show that they aren’t going to be rolled by the help. It reads like a push back to the whole “Griffin isn’t Olbermann’s boss” thing that has been in the air.

Of course by also invoking the merger, it also helps Comcast stake their ground.

What impressed me most about the article and the thing I tweeted was that though I’ve always thought of Kurtz as a brand, the way this thing is going to bounce around the internet, it demonstrates that without a doubt, he has the ability to draw people to what could be called an out of the way site. I hope he’s being adequately compensated because it’s one of the best examples of traffic acquisition via a hire that comes to mind.

Oh, and finally… I just want to point out for my own self-satisfaction that in response to a previous Kurtz/Olbermann post, I wondered about Brokaw’s role in the matter and this morning’s Howie appears to bear it out.

m said:
Ouch. Seems pretty bad. Makes you wonder though how truthful the article is. I don’t think MSNBC will fire Keith. If they do, plenty of liberals will stop watching the network in droves.

I’m sure Keith likes to think that his loss would have an effect on viewership, but if there were some kind of drop, it’d only be a temporary protest because Rachel followed by Larry seems strong enough to stand on their own and if you think about it, unless Keith were to turn to a Rocketboom/zeFrank YouTube format, he really doesn’t have a place to go.

CNN itself couldn’t take him because it’d be a retreat on their middle approach. Theoretically, I guess he could find a spot on HLN, but they seem to play more to the female demographic and Olbermann would disrupt the flow.

sarainitaly said:

It is utterly inconceivable to me that you would even ask such a question.

From its inception, Nazism incorporated a strong anti-Semitic element which began as an accusation that the Jews were involved in various conspiracies, media control, market control, instigation of wars for profit, revolution, world domination. Only later, in the post-Kristallnacht Germany did anti-Semitism take on its explicit character. Beckerhead is floating a series of this obscene conspiracies involving Mr. Soros. In part, Beckerhead’s motivation is Mr. Soros’ funding of Media Matters in the amount of US $1 Million to expose Beckerhead and FOX lies. So, Mr. Soros is an enemy who must be destroyed in Beckerhead’s mind. Present the historical conspiracy theories, then provide the exculpatory, pre-emptive cover. “Some say.” “I’m not saying, but ….” “I’m not judging, that’s between Mr. Soros and God ….”

All the Marys in Heaven, can you be so ahistorical that you don’t see the classic Semitic smear, the same smear that has permeated Western civilization from the Spanish Inquisition through the Russian and Polish pogroms through the Nazis and into the FOX “News” studios? I don’t think you can be that ahistorical. While you never really offer any analysis of the facts you spew out from your disreputable, discredited and stale source, you seem to have some command of some rudimentary, basic, crude fundamentals of Western civilization.

And, to what end? For the Beckerhead to callously and flippantly villify and you man for giving in to his survival instinct? To excuse that? What is any stronger denial of the Holocaust than to deny the very witness of one who survived it. Who worked to survive it? Who undertook what was necessary to survive it. How dare Beckerhead and you find fault in this survivor, and not in the German and Hungarian perpetrators of this obscenity. How dare you defend Beckerhead’s march with these perpetrators!

I’m not sure about Italian law, but in Germany, Holocaust denial is a crime. The Germans had the good sense that to deny is to invite it all to happen again. As an ex-patriate living in Germany, this would be a deportable offense. Yet, Italy participated in the Holocaust, as well. If I were an Italian, I’d be clamoring for your deportation for buying into this classic, time-”honored” Semitic smear, for advancing it without question, for defending a Holocaust denier and for, yourself being a Holocaust denier.

Nothing ever broadcast on American television has even been as disgusting, as filthy as Beckerhead’s anti-Semitic attack on Mr. Soros. Yet, you lap it up. The conclusion is obvious. Unless Beckerhead is stopped by the slimy Murdoch and Ailes, the attacks will only grow more explicit, following the course set by every Hitler and Mussolini who have strutted, goose-stepped and pandered throughout Western civilization. When do you, when does Tumbleweed at long last say: “Enough! The line has been crossed.” Or, do you simply continue to enable the great Holocaust Denier Beckerhead?

ETA: Of course, if Olbermann were willing to eat some of the things he’s said and if FNC were to put him into the Hannity slot, it’d be a dramatic ratings winner for both him and their network, especially if they billed it as a “Land of Giants” lineup, but I think it’d be a hard sell, all the way around.

holocaust denier i dont think so, soros is a athesist i can understand some of you view king, but you go a little over the edge at the end

The Real Royal King said:
It is utterly inconceivable to me that you would even ask such a question.

From its inception, Nazism incorporated a strong anti-Semitic element which began as an accusation that the Jews were involved in various conspiracies, media control, market control, instigation of wars for profit, revolution, world domination. Only later, in the post-Kristallnacht Germany did anti-Semitism take on its explicit character. Beckerhead is floating a series of this obscene conspiracies involving Mr. Soros. In part, Beckerhead’s motivation is Mr. Soros’ funding of Media Matters in the amount of US $1 Million to expose Beckerhead and FOX lies. So, Mr. Soros is an enemy who must be destroyed in Beckerhead’s mind. Present the historical conspiracy theories, then provide the exculpatory, pre-emptive cover. “Some say.” “I’m not saying, but ….” “I’m not judging, that’s between Mr. Soros and God ….”

All the Marys in Heaven, can you be so ahistorical that you don’t see the classic Semitic smear, the same smear that has permeated Western civilization from the Spanish Inquisition through the Russian and Polish pogroms through the Nazis and into the FOX “News” studios? I don’t think you can be that ahistorical. While you never really offer any analysis of the facts you spew out from your disreputable, discredited and stale source, you seem to have some command of some rudimentary, basic, crude fundamentals of Western civilization.

And, to what end? For the Beckerhead to callously and flippantly villify and you man for giving in to his survival instinct? To excuse that? What is any stronger denial of the Holocaust than to deny the very witness of one who survived it. Who worked to survive it? Who undertook what was necessary to survive it. How dare Beckerhead and you find fault in this survivor, and not in the German and Hungarian perpetrators of this obscenity. How dare you defend Beckerhead’s march with these perpetrators!

I’m not sure about Italian law, but in Germany, Holocaust denial is a crime. The Germans had the good sense that to deny is to invite it all to happen again. As an ex-patriate living in Germany, this would be a deportable offense. Yet, Italy participated in the Holocaust, as well. If I were an Italian, I’d be clamoring for your deportation for buying into this classic, time-”honored” Semitic smear, for advancing it without question, for defending a Holocaust denier and for, yourself being a Holocaust denier.

Nothing ever broadcast on American television has even been as disgusting, as filthy as Beckerhead’s anti-Semitic attack on Mr. Soros. Yet, you lap it up. The conclusion is obvious. Unless Beckerhead is stopped by the slimy Murdoch and Ailes, the attacks will only grow more explicit, following the course set by every Hitler and Mussolini who have strutted, goose-stepped and pandered throughout Western civilization. When do you, when does Tumbleweed at long last say: “Enough! The line has been crossed.” Or, do you simply continue to enable the great Holocaust Denier Beckerhead?

Now you’re saying that Glenn Beck is a holocaust denier? TRRK, you are losing more and more credibility everyday. I was critical of Beck for making Soros’ actions as a 14 year old an issue. But to try to turn that into a claim that he is holocaust denier is an act of mental gymnastics that should be a bridge too far even for you.

AnonymousFinch said:
Now you’re saying that Glenn Beck is a holocaust denier? TRRK, you are losing more and more credibility everyday. I was critical of Beck for making Soros’ actions as a 14 year old an issue. But to try to turn that into a claim that he is holocaust denier is an act of mental gymnastics that should be a bridge too far even for you.

He follows the classic Holocaust Perpetrator/Holocaust Denier pattern, so, yes, I think it plausible.

king, very bad sir ……plausible lol

The Real Royal King said:
He follows the classic Holocaust Perpetrator/Holocaust Denier pattern, so, yes, I think it plausible.

No, it is not “plausible”. Glenn Beck is in the public record talking about the horrors ofbteh holocaust thousands of times. For younto turn that vast, vast public record into a claim that he is a holocaust denier is Orwellian. It just shows your pattern and practice of making the harshest, most defamatory attacks on people that you disagree with without any regard for the thruth. What you are doi g to Beck is far, far worse than what he he did to Soros.

AnonymousFinch said:
No, it is not “plausible”. Glenn Beck is in the public record talking about the horrors ofbteh holocaust thousands of times. For younto turn that vast, vast public record into a claim that he is a holocaust denier is Orwellian. It just shows your pattern and practice of making the harshest, most defamatory attacks on people that you disagree with without any regard for the thruth. What you are doi g to Beck is far, far worse than what he he did to Soros.

A bit shrill there, AF. Makes me think you have not sold yourself on the Kart ‘o Krap you’re trying to peddle to others. Frankly, when one chastises a young Holocaust survivor for surviving, he is denying the Holocaust. The reality of the Holocaust. Also, when one used the Holocaust as a catalyst for tears, he is denying the Holocaust. The reality of the Holocaust. Perhaps, as you might seem to suggest, Beckerhead is acting out of ignorance as opposed to malice. That’s easy enough to prove. Have Beckerhead make an honest, sincere apology.

And, can the histrionics. I’m not the vile one here.

cjd ohio 1 said:
king, very bad sir ……plausible lol

I want to be fair. It is possible that Beckerhead is simply ignorant in these matters, although I think not, or that he is just into his typical shameless pandering to the Baal-like baser sorts who worship him. Again, I think not, but I want to give him the benefit of the doubt. Which, of course, he gave not to Mr. Soros.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
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You libs and your Faux outrage at Glenn Beck’s Soro’s comment are humorous.

wasnt just libs. it was most all people except the radical right wing scumbags who let Beck get away with everything

sarainitaly said:
he is such a freakin moron.

Sara (who loves America so much she lives in a foreign country where she benefits from government healthcare) is the last person to call anyone a freakin’ moron.

How anyone can listen to that blabbermouth is beyond me. And HOW can anyone say he has top ratings? I look at the charts showing what show has each time and everytime MSNBC is always LOWER that FOXNews.
It is also lower that other stations. He shouldn’t even be on TV, he just doesn’t know how to hold anyone’s attention due to his LIEING and Making up stories that anyone KNOWS are NOT TRUE. All other stations dislike FoxNews because they are the only station that will actually GIVE you news that the people likt to hear. Meaning both sides of ALL stories, also with video to back up what they say. Olbermann doesn’t have anything to prove ANYTHING he says. Therefore I never stop on that chanel when I am looking for something INTERESTING!

The Real Royal King said:
I’m not sure about Italian law, but in Germany, Holocaust denial is a crime. The Germans had the good sense that to deny is to invite it all to happen again. As an ex-patriate living in Germany, this would be a deportable offense. Yet, Italy participated in the Holocaust, as well. If I were an Italian, I’d be clamoring for your deportation for buying into this classic, time-”honored” Semitic smear, for advancing it without question, for defending a Holocaust denier and for, yourself being a Holocaust denier.

you are seriously f*cking stupid. so so so so very f*cking stupid.

JamesA1102 said:
Sara (who loves America so much she lives in a foreign country where she benefits from government healthcare) is the last person to call anyone a freakin’ moron.

I sincerely doubt I will be the last person to call RRK a freaking moron.
Dude, your schtick is sooooooooooooooooo old.

BFD,
wasnt just libs. it was most all people except the radical right wing scumbags who let Beck get away with everything

WRONG! Breaking the 11th commandment, thou shalt not use a liberals OWN words against him, only brings the ire of you libs and “right-wingers” who don’t know any better. I’m not surprised you can’t defend why Soros would possibly say those years were the best of his life. I’d want to change the subhect too.

I sincerely doubt I will be the last person to call RRK a freaking moron.

I’ll second that Sara. The libs seem particulary cranky that Beck told the history of Soros. Can’t say I blame them.

The Real Royal King said:
Frankly, when one chastises a young Holocaust survivor for surviving, he is denying the Holocaust.

You are such a liar.

Soros in1998:

KROFT: No feeling of guilt?

Mr. SOROS: No.

Beck:
“I am certainly not saying George Soros enjoyed that, even had a choice—I mean, he’s 14 years old. He was surviving. So I’m not making a judgment, that’s between him and God.

… But you think there would be some remorse as an 80-year-old man, or a 40-year-old man, or a 20-year-old man. When it was all over, you would do some soul searching and say, “What did I do? What did I do?”

I ask again, How is Beck an anti-Semite for pointing out what Soros said/did? Where is Beck wrong?
He is not chastising Soros for what he did at 14 – he even said he didn’t have a choice – he was 14. He is commenting on Soros’ lack of remorse as a man. Soros said he had no regrets, in 1998. Not when he was 14. When he was 110.

Denying the holocaust – you are such a moronic tool.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
I sincerely doubt I will be the last person to call RRK a freaking moron.

I’ll second that Sara. The libs seem particulary cranky that Beck told the history of Soros. Can’t say I blame them.

Yea, they sure hate that, don’t they.

Seeing 2012 From My Window says:
“Hey King, if he’s SO anyti-semetic, why did Abe Foxman himself write Beck a letter thanking him for being a friend to the jewish community? The left’s tactic of calling those who point out Soros’ OWN words despicable to SHUT UP THE TRUTH just isn’t going to work anymore.”

Foxman wrote that BEFORE Beck’s latest assault on history of the holocaust. He has since called Beck’s lie “horrific.”

http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/11/glenn-becks-horrific-lie.html

gordontheblowhardwithashow says:
“Soros is the demon and a lying scumbag”

This is how Gordon the blow hard with a show functions. Everyone that’s not a hard core reactionary like him is a “liar.” He can’t actually state what Soros has “lied” about because Gordon the blow hard would bet exposed as a liar if he tries.

Gordon the blow hard also can’t tell us why Soros is “the demon,” even though that kind of nasty, sleazy, demonizing is typical for reactionaries. No substance to Gordon the blow hard’s accusations, just name calling. Pretty much what we-the-people have come to expect from reactionary blow hards like Gordon.

BGR, Beck didn’t lie about anything. That is why you libs are SO riled up. You hate it when the truth sees the light of day.

Addressing the actual subject matter: it BLOWS that the liberal ego is in conflict with the liberal management when the real WAR in media is between the conveyors of honest news and the conveyors of right wing lies.

This doesn’t bode well for the good guys.

hewas attacking soros, right or wrong is up to you, but holocaust denier, or re-writing the holocaust give me a break guys

GBR, the real reason you are upset is that you’re used to the good old days where you libs could spread your lies and the media was a willing accomplice. Now there are many alternative ways to squash your lies and it’s driving you absolutely insane! Whine all you want, but the times are a changin.

I wonder: Do Tumbleweed and Michelle-in-Utah hate all Holocaust victims or just Mr. Soros?

sarainitaly said:
I sincerely doubt I will be the last person to call RRK a freaking moron.Dude, your schtick is sooooooooooooooooo old.

Sara (who loves America so much she lives in a foreign country where she benefits from government healthcare) is the last person to call anyone’s schtick old.

Hey, I’ve got an idea…

Let’s find a post about a column detailing a riff and the distancing between management and their network’s highest profile star, perhaps one written by a veteran reporter forging a new path and then let’s post a few dozen comments about the Holocaust that no one will read until it all devolves into personal insults.

See what happen when you get snarky and can’t edit: “riff” should’ve been “rift”.

Apologies. Carry on.

Magister said:
let’s post a few dozen comments about the Holocaust that no one will read until it all devolves into personal insults.

you can blame the initiation of the holocaust topic and of personal insult slinging on RRk.
i don’t take kindly being called names over and over again, after every single post I write, by rrk, but take particular issue with it calling me an Holocaust denier.
he is incapable of commenting without personal insults.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
BGR, Beck didn’t lie about anything. That is why you libs are SO riled up. You hate it when the truth sees the light of day.

If you’re so interested in the truth seeing the light of day, let’s talk about the Massacre at Mountain Meadow.

King, I always know when I’ve won an argument with you because you bring on the mormon bashing. You’re a sad little man.

JamesA1102 said:
Sara (who loves America so much she lives in a foreign country where she benefits from government healthcare) is the last person to call anyone’s schtick old.

do you ever write anything on here, besides those stupid comments?

sarainitaly said:
you can blame the initiation of the holocaust topic and of personal insult slinging on RRk.
i don’t take kindly being called names over and over again, after every single post I write, by rrk, but take particular issue with it calling me an Holocaust denier.
he is incapable of commenting without personal insults.

Just to keep you honest, Tumbleweed, the first such post was not mine.

Moreover, Holocaust denial and Beckerhead’s crusade again Mr. Soros are important topics.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
King, I always know when I’ve won an argument with you because you bring on the mormon bashing. You’re a sad little man.

Who’s bashing. If the light of day is to be cast, let’s cast it on everything. I’m as willing to talk about the Spanish Inquisition as Mountain Meadow.

Holocaust Denial violates Italian law.

http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/news/italy-approves-law-making-holocaust-denial-a-crime-1.211077

A very interesting little piece on the Jewish reaction to Beckerhead.

http://blogs.jta.org/telegraph/article/2010/11/15/2741750/glenn-beck-and-the-limits-of-soros-bashing

Worth a read unless your mind is completely closed.

idiot.

The Real Royal King said:
If you’re so interested in the truth seeing the light of day, let’s talk about the Massacre at Mountain Meadow.

If you haven’t seen it already, the movie September Dawn about the Mountain Meadow massacre is an absolute must see. What a profound historical irony thatthe massacre happened on September 11.

The Real Royal King said:
Holocaust Denial violates Italian law.

http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/news/italy-approves-law-making-holocaust-denial-a-crime-1.211077

show me where i am denying the holocaust.

your existence violates the law of humanity.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
WRONG!

I wonder how YOUR little Mormon rugrat would have acted if he was a child in Nazi occupied Europe. Prolly would have joined the Hitler youth and snitched on his Jewish neighbors.

Actually, he is probably doing that in Utah today.

AnonymousFinch said:
If you haven’t seen it already, the movie September Dawn about the Mountain Meadow massacre is an absolute must see. What a profound historical irony thatthe massacre happened on September 11.

It is a fascinating chapter in American history, and it contains an important object lesson in what can happen when a sect comes to dominate any particular area. Even as a Catholic, I recognize that problem with Catholics in parts of our own country and particularly in Latin America, Italy and Spain.

Pablo said:
That’s all you have to do if you’re an idiot. Reasonable people will often read the piece and then decide what to think of it.

Big Eddie, that’s an excellent piece. Thanks for the link.

I think the major objection to Beck’s comments was when he added that Soros was a Jewish boy helping to send other Jews to the Death camps.

I’d like to see some evidence that he was more than a survivor and an observer , which is how it’s described elsewhere. Beck does what he always does and makes some subtle and not so subtle leaps of logic {illogic} and chooses which facts to present, which to leave out and how to phrase it to fit the negative he is trying to create. It’s nmuch smarter than bold face lies , but it’s essentially , just as dishonest. He then throws in some phrase like , “check it out for yourself” or in this case “I’m not judging him” to make it sound more compassionate than it is.
Did he deliver deportation notices?
http://www.jweekly.com/article/full/59834/glenn-beck-attack-on-george-soros-outrages-jewish-leaders/

On another occasion, the local Jewish council had ordered Soros to deliver letters to local lawyers. Soros’ father, Tivadar, realized the letters were to Jewish lawyers and meant to expedite their deportation. He told his son to warn the targets to flee and ended the boy’s work with the council.

Since you recommend reading articles rather than dismissing them, here’s one that makes some interesting points about Beck’s Soros analysis. I don’t know much about Soros but I’m wondering if he gave Soros credit for what this article describes.

It’s true, of course, that Soros has had a hand in bringing down governments—communist, authoritarian governments. Beck seems to be assuming a colossal level of ignorance on the part of his viewers when he informs them, “Along with currencies, Soros also collapses regimes. With his Open Society Fund… Soros has helped fund the Velvet Revolution in the Czech Republic, the Orange Revolution in the Ukraine, the Rose Revolution in Georgia. He also helped to engineer coups in Slovakia, Croatia, and Yugoslavia. So what is his target now? Us. America.”

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-11-10/glenn-becks-anti-semitic-attack-on-george-soros/

CosmosDan said:
I think the major objection to Beck’s comments was when he added that Soros was a Jewish boy helping to send other Jews to the Death camps.

I’d like to see some evidence that he was more than a survivor and an observer , which is how it’s described elsewhere. Beck does what he always does and makes some subtle and not so subtle leaps of logic {illogic} and chooses which facts to present, which to leave out and how to phrase it to fit the negative he is trying to create. It’s nmuch smarter than bold face lies , but it’s essentially , just as dishonest. He then throws in some phrase like , “check it out for yourself” or in this case “I’m not judging him” to make it sound more compassionate than it is.
Did he deliver deportation notices?
http://www.jweekly.com/article/full/59834/glenn-beck-attack-on-george-soros-outrages-jewish-leaders/

Since you recommend reading articles rather than dismissing them, here’s one that makes some interesting points about Beck’s Soros analysis. I don’t know much about Soros but I’m wondering if he gave Soros credit for what this article describes.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-11-10/glenn-becks-anti-semitic-attack-on-george-soros/

Good post. Good links.

I can’t grasp the chutzpah of someone reclining on his or her royal petard in the FOX “News” Studio, in America or in Italy in 2010 passing judgment on a a Jewish boy doing what had to be done to survive in Europe in 1942. The Germans, the Ukrainians, the Poles, the Hungarians and the Italians and, to a lesser extent, the Vichy French systematically dehumanized the Jews. They were reduced to animals, and not particularly valuable animals. In that environment, survival become instinctive and the keenest of characteristics.

sarainitaly said:
do you ever write anything on here, besides those stupid comments?

Sara (who loves America so much she lives in a foreign country where she benefits from government healthcare) is the last person to call anyone’s comments stupid.

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Finch, Sara, Eddie, etc… if you will look you see the concerted effort to turn this thread away from Olbermann into one about Glenn Beck and one where you spend your time defending yourselves from very inflammatory personal charges.

This is a strategy by The Real Royal King and his sockpuppet brigade here.

He and his bunch of merry idiots did it at Olbermann Watch, until Robert Cox got gateway software.

Just be aware of this and you’ll see the pattern and you’ll see the sockpuppets start to appear from nowhere, to start with the insults.

How surprised is anyone that Olbermann has set off a war at NBC that has set Keith’s own staff at odds with him…

BlackWidow said:
Hey Big Eddie haven’t you figured out that one can find a link to back up anything they want to preach to the choir.

See if you can find us a link that shows how everyone in Americal loves -0bamacare.

-0lby is on his way out. MSNBC can no longer afford the liability of his huge salary and dismal ratings. He might last until the end of his contract but it’s more likely MSNBC will cut its losses, buy him out, and install someone who can get some ratings. Nothing personal, just business.

pyrope said:
MSNBC can no longer afford the liability of his huge salary and dismal ratings.

Does anyone know how much Olbermann makes? It seems I heard $32 million, but that seems very high.

(flame baiting comment about olbermann and praise of Beck here)

Actually no, Olbermann isn’t going anywhere. He brings good ratings and most viewers of MSNBC (according to polls) like his show. Despite any odds the management may have with him, he’s pretty secure in his time slot and his “melt downs” (really? you call that a meltdown? Do you work for Fox News? “we make crap up, you deride”) are always ratings boosts.

I want O’reilly to disappear as well guys, but that ain’t going to happen either.

Seeing 2012 From My Window says:
“Beck didn’t lie about anything. ”

Settle a bet I have with my wife. Are you too ignorant to know that what Beck says isn’t in alignment with the facts because your sole source of information is FocPAC, or are you just flat-out stupid to assert that what Beck says is true for whatever reason (you love him, you want him to be right, etc).

What are you Palin wanna-be: stupid or ignorant?

The Real Royal King says:
“I can’t grasp the chutzpah of someone reclining on his or her royal petard in the FOX “News” Studio, in America or in Italy in 2010 passing judgment on a a Jewish boy doing what had to be done to survive in Europe in 1942. The Germans, the Ukrainians, the Poles, the Hungarians and the Italians and, to a lesser extent, the Vichy French systematically dehumanized the Jews. They were reduced to animals, and not particularly valuable animals. In that environment, survival become instinctive and the keenest of characteristics.”

You touch on why so many Jews are so pissed off at Beck’s criticism of Soros around this miserable part of his life. Beck didn’t need to go there. Beck keeps referring to Soros the puppet master, and he will probably never revisit this part of Soros’ life.

What you call chutzpuh, King, I would call sheer stupidity on Beck’s part. Maybe he had time to fill in on one of his episodes, but a smarter person, a more sensitive and empathic person, would have just cut the series down to two episodes instead of three. I refer to Beck as an ignorant genius for how he makes people believe the utter hogwash that he spews. He’s very clever mixing in video fragments and quotes out of context to deceive gullible and uneducated viewers. They insist that Beck tells the truth. After all, that’s what he tells them over and over and over (it’s called programming is some quarters).

In this case, what Beck displayed wasn’t ignorant genius. He knew that Soros didn’t send Jews off to death camps. Last week Beck displayed ingenious stupidity. It was a series of lies that would cause Beck to lose his job if his employer had a shred of decency or integrity. Unfortunately, neither Ailes or Murdoch have either.

http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/11/glenn-becks-horrific-lie.html