Why is it everytime some left wing media tool of the Dem party gets into trouble thay go after Fox News? Can’t they make it on their won without pulling some old radio trick of picking fights to boost ratings/readership? Can’t any of these entities just make it on their own anymore???

In their TV commercials , the NYT brags about how good they think their paper is and say several times ” There’s no debate ! ” . Well , there always is , or should be . Obama has tried in the past to rush bills through , saying ” The time for talk is over . ” Omama is not King Obama and his pet paper is not our guide .

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/03/to_save_america_we_must_dethro.html

“Fox viewers “among the most cynical people on planet earth””

Fox viewers just plain old suck as people.

Liz Trotta? You mean the same Liz Trotta who said out loud on a live Fox News cablecast that wanted to “knock off” President Obama?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-AxdVWZFvM

Really?

–Cobra

same2u said:
“Fox viewers “among the most cynical people on planet earth”” Fox viewers just plain old suck as people.

Don’t stereotype too much… do you? And just for good measure, MSNBC views have stinky pants, bad breath, and their mom’s dress them funny. :P

Rudy Juiliani in Drag comes to mind if you frame freeze this chick. Or, hosni Mubarak with lipstick. Pick one for yourself.

Fox News, where even their “hard news” clowns read the same talking points memo to discredit those out of the farm.

And their ratings rely on their opinion clowns.

According to the Times, there are certain things to be cynical about, and things not to be.

Republicans, be cynical.
Democrats, accept.
MSNBC, accept.
Fox News, cynical.
Pro-America groups, cynical.
Anti-America groups, accept.

That’s all he was saying. According to the way the NYTimes operates, FNC questions everyone… and that’s half as many as they should.

Bringing out “Swinging” Liz Trotta most certainly does mean that Fox News is not taking this seriously. They’re probably more worried about Comedy Central mocking their asses 4 straight nights last week.

The only thing the left is cynical of is anyone or anything that questions its beloved government.

nice_thought said:
Rudy Juiliani in Drag comes to mind if you frame freeze this chick. Or, hosni Mubarak with lipstick. Pick one for yourself.

You can say that…. but I’m not supposed to notice that Maddow looks like a man? Double standard?

Bob Unkle said:
Bringing out “Swinging” Liz Trotta most certainly does mean that Fox News is not taking this seriously. They’re probably more worried about Comedy Central mocking their asses 4 straight nights last week.

As long as they spell “Fox News” correctly…. you’re right. I don’t think they care at all.

ndanielson said:
The only thing the left is cynical of is anyone or anything that questions its beloved government.

As long as a Dems in charge.. true. Not much Gov Love a few years back… “The times they are a changin”.

tatboy said:
As long as a Dems in charge.. true. Not much Gov Love a few years back… “The times they are a changin”.

They still had love for government, not so much George Bush. As long as Bush would “cross the isle” he was okay. Maverick John McCain was a darling as long as he burned the republicans. Big government is the god of the left.

All the complaints about Fox News are nothing but nonsense. Any objective observer knows Fox is the best news organization on cable or broadcast T.V. The losers that comment here just shills for the liberals attempt to discredit Fox. The only problem is they have to make up stuff and attack normal errors made by any news group. Attempts to inflate errors into some kind of conspiracy have fallen flat.

Cobra said:
Liz Trotta? You mean the same Liz Trotta who said out loud on a live Fox News cablecast that wanted to “knock off” President Obama?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-AxdVWZFvM

Really?

–Cobra

did you actually listen to the clip?

tatboy said:
As long as a Dems in charge.. true. Not much Gov Love a few years back… “The times they are a changin”.

They were cynics when it came to the Patriot Act, now not a peep. Same thing with Guantanamo, and the invasion of sovereign countries with drone attacks. Now not a peep. No more anti-war protests getting headlines, and no more monthly body counts, no more questions of high unemployment, rising gas prices, nothing. Nothing 0bama does is questioned by anyone on the left, to any degree of scrutiny. Bush couldn’t even walk without being criticized.

Speak truth to power was just a T-shirt with a portrait of a murderous coward on it.

ndanielson said:
They still had love for government, not so much George Bush. As long as Bush would “cross the isle” he was okay. Maverick John McCain was a darling as long as he burned the republicans. Big government is the god of the left.

The left truly can not think for it’s self. I am starting to belive the majority of the “liberal” population is made up of wind up toys

The left is ten times more cynical of Fox news than ANYTHING 0bama’s democrats do.

gordonbloyershow said:
All the complaints about Fox News are nothing but nonsense. Any objective observer knows Fox is the best news organization on cable or broadcast T.V. The losers that comment here just shills for the liberals attempt to discredit Fox. The only problem is they have to make up stuff and attack normal errors made by any news group. Attempts to inflate errors into some kind of conspiracy have fallen flat.

Keep embarrassing yourself that way, gordys.

I believe some of you have cynicism confused with skepticism.

GlennBovineKoldys said:
Keep embarrassing yourself that way, gordys.

GlennBunnyKlown, as long as ignorance is bliss, you will never have to worry about embarrassing yourself. Ignorance used to be looked down upon in America, now it’s a path to endless free cheese.

ndanielson said:
The left is ten times more cynical of Fox news than ANYTHING 0bama’s democrats do.

The Fox gNOpig Propaganda Network is 1,000 times worse with their lies than anything the democrats could do.

See, I can make up sht just like the Fox gNOpig Propaganda Network does.

ndanielson said:
GlennBunnyKlown, as long as ignorance is bliss, you will never have to worry about embarrassing yourself. Ignorance used to be looked down upon in America, now it’s a path to endless free cheese.

Ignorance is the first requirement to tag along with the teabagged gNOpigs.

Royce Earnest Jr said:
I believe some of you have cynicism confused with skepticism.

Definition of CYNICAL
1
: captious, peevish
2
: having or showing the attitude or temper of a cynic: as a : contemptuously distrustful of human nature and motives

b : based on or reflecting a belief that human conduct is motivated primarily by self-interest

What part of b, does the mass media miss with 0bama’s agenda, administration or his party? The left doesn’t even question socialism, for Pete’s sake! That’s not skepticism, that is cynicism at the human nature of LIBERALS, and their ability to think.

Irrespective of the condescending and arrogant comment by Miss Keller of the New York Times, Fox News has the most intelligent and beautiful women on television. Megyn Kelly and Martha MacCallum are two beauties worthy of mention, and how could one forget the Belle of the South, Miss Sheppard Smith.

@ Bovine

Nobody knows what a “gNOPig” is.

GlennBovineKoldys said:
Ignorance is the first requirement to tag along with the teabagged gNOpigs.

You exceed the requirement, ten-fold.

gordonbloyershow said:
All the complaints about Fox News are nothing but nonsense. Any objective observer knows Fox is the best news organization on cable or broadcast T.V. The losers that comment here just shills for the liberals attempt to discredit Fox. The only problem is they have to make up stuff and attack normal errors made by any news group. Attempts to inflate errors into some kind of conspiracy have fallen flat.

We know that Fox is paying you to say these things. You too are bought and paid for.

ImNotBlue said:
@ Bovine

Nobody knows what a “gNOPig” is.

Who cares???

ndanielson said:
Definition of CYNICAL
1
: captious, peevish
2
: having or showing the attitude or temper of a cynic: as a : contemptuously distrustful of human nature and motives

b : based on or reflecting a belief that human conduct is motivated primarily by self-interest

What part of b, does the mass media miss with 0bama’s agenda, administration or his party? The left doesn’t even question socialism, for Pete’s sake! That’s not skepticism, that is cynicism at the human nature of LIBERALS, and their ability to think.

ndanielson said:
Definition of CYNICAL
1
: captious, peevish
2
: having or showing the attitude or temper of a cynic: as a : contemptuously distrustful of human nature and motives

b : based on or reflecting a belief that human conduct is motivated primarily by self-interest

What part of b, does the mass media miss with 0bama’s agenda, administration or his party? The left doesn’t even question socialism, for Pete’s sake! That’s not skepticism, that is cynicism at the human nature of LIBERALS, and their ability to think.

Yes, I KNOW the difference. I said SOME of you and SOME on here do have the two confused. Not everything is about liberals or conservatives but about what is right and what is wrong.

@ ndaniel

I kinda do! When someone keeps insulting me, I’d like to at least understand it, otherwise I can’t respond.

I think I once Googled it. It only sent me back to posts by Bovine over and over again.

ndanielson said:
Who cares???

The gNOpig thrives in the USA. Estimates calculate their population in the 20-22% range from total population. About 2 to 3 million watch the Fox gNOpig Propaganda Network during prime time.

Sometimes they pretend to be fair and balanced, but that is their give away clue. The ignorance and lard on the gNOpig is always larger to the right.

@ Bovine

So the “gNOpig” is some sort of an animal you made up? Like a “liger?”

Huh? That’s still not making much sense.

ImNotBlue said:
@ Bovine

So the “gNOpig” is some sort of an animal you made up? Like a “liger?”

Huh? That’s still not making much sense.

I’ve just told you how to identify it

What?! You want pictures of the teabagged rallies?

ImNotBlue said:
@ Bovine

So the “gNOpig” is some sort of an animal you made up? Like a “liger?”

Huh? That’s still not making much sense.

Um, did you expect anything different? He thinks it’s some kind of inside joke. The only joke is inside his head, where his gNopig haunts his very soul.

sarainitaly said:
did you actually listen to the clip?

Yes I did. And I listened to the clip of Liz Trotta’s half-assed “apology for anyone I’ve offended” as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9X4LqqJrmEs

–Cobra

@ Cobra

I assume you hold Jesse Jackson to the same standard, and haven’t forgiven him either for threating to cut off Obama’s whatits? Right?

Or are you once again holding a double standard to see things you want to see.

@ Bovine

Yup… show us.

The NYT has become a sham of a joke of a travesty of a parody of a farce of a newspaper. The mental disease known as “lunatic-left d-crat socialism” has finally destroyed the last few remaining brain cells of the lamestream propagandists at the “All The News That’s Fit to Fake” NYT. However, like certain other body parts, the brain of a lunatic-left socialist is extraordinarily tiny, so there wasn’t very much for this extremist disease to destroy. (NB: the lunatic-left affliction to “recklessly spend other people’s money” is NOT controlled by the brain, but is one of their more disgusting bodily functions. That’s why crazy pelosi, who has been brain dead for decades, managed to waste more than $5 TRILLION as the WORST HOUSE SPEAKER IN AMERICAN HISTORY.) The good news for these lamestream propagandists is that they are now mentally on a par with their leader “You Lie!” hussein, whose severely drug-damaged brain was barely able to keep up with their only partially impaired one previously.

If Karma works, the editors, owners and journalists/liberal-propagandists of the NYT will all be reincarnated as worms.

Liz Trotta, of “Osama,Obama, maybe we’ll get a two-fer”, has little room to talk. I remember, decades ago, when she was some sort of a TV correspondent. That TV has taken on a whole different meaning, although Rudy in drag is better looking. I think he was born to it.
If MsTrotta expects us to accept her claim that the FauxNoise machine “has no agenda”, would she be so kind to explain the directives from Roger Ailes to refer to AHCA as “Obamacare”, when it is a wholly private insurance program.

What a joke. Liz Trotta’s retort about the word “cynicism” as being a positive completely obfuscates the main issue. The FOX network has very little to do with presenting an objective view of what’s going on in this country and certainly nothing to do with informing its viewersabout real world issues. You don’t have to agree with everthing you read in the Times, but it is by far the best daily paper in this country. It has the best writers and wins the most awards for its presentation of the news. It does in depth analysis of all the major issues facing this country. FOX, on the other hand, isn’t even on the level of any of the other major networks as pathetic as they are. FOX is the sole practitioner of the Big Lie and this is the reason why virtually every non FOX outlet attacks poor Rupert Murdoch and his minions. Smith and Wallace are the only serious journalists on FOX and O’Reilly, Hannity and Beck are totally disrespected in the real world. As bad as media is in this country, it’s obvious that FOX has a small minority audience that Murdoch and Ailes are carefully exploiting strictly for the money. Now that’s real cynicism! If FOX were really appealing to a mass audience there would be many imitators, but the numbers aren’t there and I doubt if they ever will be.

To: TPP @ 5.07PM:
I’m not going to quote you, because I refuse to give your diatribe a second airing.
In response to you, why don’t you reach back to that orifice you keep pulling numbers out of, and remove your head? You’ll know you’ve succeeded if you hear a loud “popping” sound.
Ronald Wilson Reagan created more debt than all previous Presidents combined.
George Walker Bush created more debt than all previous Presidents combined. That’s not a typo. They BOTH did it.
Speaker Newt Gingrich resigned in disgrace.
If Karma works, you will surely return as a dung beetle, due to all the s#@t you revel in now.

ImNotBlue said:
@ Cobra

I assume you hold Jesse Jackson to the same standard, and haven’t forgiven him either for threating to cut off Obama’s whatits? Right?

Or are you once again holding a double standard to see things you want to see.

@ Bovine

Yup… show us.

Absoluetly. I find Jesse Jackson not only wrong in that case, but abominably wrong. I’m waiting for YOU to say the same about Liz Trotta.

–Cobra

@ Cobra

I’d like to see the full context first… however, I believe neither of them were seriously proposing violence against Obama. Their hyperbole was disrespectful, but not career ending, and nothing to be perpetually angry at.

If your standard is anyone who at some point steps over the hyperbolic line must be shunned for life, I imagine you’ll find yourself unhappily alone.

Bill Keller is absolutely right along with the other 95% of newspaper editors whole feel the same way but are just afraid to say it. Thank you Bill.

She said Fox doesn’t have an agenda!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Are you kidding me!!!!

ImNotBlue said:
I’d like to see the full context first… however, I believe neither of them were seriously proposing violence against Obama. Their hyperbole was disrespectful, but not career ending, and nothing to be perpetually angry at.

she was criticizing Hillary Clinton for her “we all remember Bobby Kennedy was still campaigning in June, we all remember when he was assassinated” (paraphrase)

Trotta was criticizing Hillary for that, and a slew of other comments, calling her tone deaf, inappropriate, etc.

And when trying to say that Hillary was making it sound like she was suggesting for someone to *knock off* Obama, she accidentally said Osama, and then made some stupid comment “well, both if we could.” And then continues to call Hillary tone deaf, and criticize her for a bunch of remarks Hillary made about Obama.

It was a stupid comment but she wasn’t seriously suggesting someone off Obama. She was working with Hillary’s comments, and flubbed and said Osama, and then add libbed a stupid line.

And I think she was criticizing Hillary unfairly over the Kennedy and other comments, too.

Dear Ms. Trotta,
I hate to brake this news to you but Mr. Keller is not the only one who feels the same way about Fox News:http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2009/oct/04/fox-news-inaccuracy-class-itself/

http://www.turnoffyourtv.com/networks/foxnews/foxnews.html

@ 113

Yes, a lot of liberals don’t like FOX.

So what else is new?

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/editorial/outlook/6653861.html

Yes, MSNBC and the N.Y Times have an agenda too. But here’s the difference. MSNBC and the Times base their opinions on facts. Fox bases the facts on their opinion.

Why do moonbat liberals despise Fox? Because Fox represents the greatest threat to liberal orthodoxy ever presented in America. When the only information flowing on television was NBC/CBS/ABC, liberals basked in their superiority because they only heard what they wanted to hear. With Fox now presenting the other side of the story to include the liberal position, the established socialist/Marxist in America are concerned because their untenable positions are being exposed for their fraudulent nature. To wit: Globaloney warming, perpetual spending “for the children,” serial lying about Obamacare, and a myriad of other unsustainable liberal inspired program.

PS It’s over, and the acid test will be the butt thumping coming in Wisconsin.

It’s pretty sad, really that the NYT is in such bad fiscal shape that they have to be propped up by Mexican billionaires. It’s only a matter of time before the NYT goes the way of Newsweek.

Fok “News” contributor? That’s where the problem begins.

Bone Daddy said:
Why do moonbat liberals despise Fox? Because Fox represents the greatest threat to liberal orthodoxy ever presented in America. When the only information flowing on television was NBC/CBS/ABC, liberals basked in their superiority because they only heard what they wanted to hear. With Fox now presenting the other side of the story to include the liberal position, the established socialist/Marxist in America are concerned because their untenable positions are being exposed for their fraudulent nature. To wit: Globaloney warming, perpetual spending “for the children,” serial lying about Obamacare, and a myriad of other unsustainable liberal inspired program.

PS It’s over, and the acid test will be the butt thumping coming in Wisconsin.

uhhhhhhh….sir youre a idiot

gordonbloyershow said:
All the complaints about Fox News are nothing but nonsense. Any objective observer knows Fox is the best news organization on cable or broadcast T.V. The losers that comment here just shills for the liberals attempt to discredit Fox. The only problem is they have to make up stuff and attack normal errors made by any news group. Attempts to inflate errors into some kind of conspiracy have fallen flat.

hey wingnut, get your head out of your ass……your jack stupid ass is here everyday making the dumbest comments possible……surly youre faking it……you rednecks are starting to become a real problem to the civilized world…..its time to get them FEMA camps cranked up and install a special dunce corner just for u

ProObamaAgenda says: ” uhhhhhhh….sir youre a idiot”

Also, the butt thumping in Ohio should be complete by the end of the week. The mark of a small mind is to counter an argument by name calling. You can call be an idiot all you wish, and after the peaceful revolution is complete, liberalism/socialism/Marxism, and the progressive agenda, also known as Communism, will be relegated to the dustbin of history. Amazingly, many liberals will no longer be permitted to suck from the fruits and labors of others, and will be forced to fend for themselves. That means get a job and pay your own way.

ProObamaAgenda said:
its time to get them FEMA camps cranked up and install a special dunce corner just for u

LOL, you just gave yourself away again. FEMA camps, LOL. YOU are INSANE. Now we know why you won’t use your real name. You are really Alex Jones.

ImNotBlue said:
@ Cobra

I’d like to see the full context first… however, I believe neither of them were seriously proposing violence against Obama. Their hyperbole was disrespectful, but not career ending, and nothing to be perpetually angry at.

If your standard is anyone who at some point steps over the hyperbolic line must be shunned for life, I imagine you’ll find yourself unhappily alone.

I provided a link to the ENTIRE VIDEO SEGMENT in this thread. That’s the TOTAL context of her statement.
You presented Jesse Jackson’s whispered statement about Obama, and I condemned it without hesitation. Why can’t you do the SAME for Liz Trotta’s?

–Cobra

Bone Daddy said:
Why do moonbat liberals despise Fox? Because Fox represents the greatest threat to liberal orthodoxy ever presented in America. When the only information flowing on television was NBC/CBS/ABC, liberals basked in their superiority because they only heard what they wanted to hear. With Fox now presenting the other side of the story to include the liberal position, the established socialist/Marxist in America are concerned because their untenable positions are being exposed for their fraudulent nature. To wit: Globaloney warming, perpetual spending “for the children,” serial lying about Obamacare, and a myriad of other unsustainable liberal inspired program.

PS It’s over, and the acid test will be the butt thumping coming in Wisconsin.

What are you talking about? Rupert Murdoch wants to make MONEY. He doesn’t give a rat’s ass about the “conservative” philosophy you claim to espouse. If he could get ratings filming snails having sex, he wouldn’t hesitate running it 24-7.
I don’t think MOST conservatives who post here are bad people. I think some of you have this weird notion going on in your heads that Fox News is something other than a BUSINESS out to make a PROFIT.

–Cobra

ImNotBlue said:
Yes, a lot of liberals don’t like FOX.

they don’t?!

Isn’t this the same idiot who joked about assassinating Obama? And she wants to complain about the NYT’s criticism of Fox? Not only do these people have thin skin, but they never remember their own ridiculous history.

gordonbloyershow said:
LOL, you just gave yourself away again. FEMA camps, LOL. YOU are INSANE. Now we know why you won’t use your real name. You are really Alex Jones.

That was sarcasm, you f*cking nimrod.

@ Cobra

Because I’m not as offended by it as you are, apparently. I said both Trotta and Jackson weren’t making real threats… they were both off the cuff and said something disrespectful, but there was no actual malice in their words.

You seem to take things very seriously. It must be difficult.

ImNotBlue said:
@ Cobra

Because I’m not as offended by it as you are, apparently. I said both Trotta and Jackson weren’t making real threats… they were both off the cuff and said something disrespectful, but there was no actual malice in their words.

You seem to take things very seriously. It must be difficult.

Jesus, man–Liz Trotta HERSELF went on the air and APOLOGIZED (albeit half-heartedly) for her statements, and you can even bring yourself to say they were WRONG.

–Cobra

The losers that comment here just shills for the liberals attempt to discredit Fox.

And your evidence of this is where? Did Glennie dough boy tell you to repeat this?

The only problem is they have to make up stuff and attack normal errors made by any news group.

Point out one thing they have made up about Fox News. One example would be nice from you Fox News b*tch boys. You never have one, which is why nobody takes you seriously.

Bone Daddy said:
Why do moonbat liberals despise Fox? Because Fox represents the greatest threat to liberal orthodoxy ever presented in America. When the only information flowing on television was NBC/CBS/ABC, liberals basked in their superiority because they only heard what they wanted to hear. With Fox now presenting the other side of the story to include the liberal position, the established socialist/Marxist in America are concerned because their untenable positions are being exposed for their fraudulent nature. To wit: Globaloney warming, perpetual spending “for the children,” serial lying about Obamacare, and a myriad of other unsustainable liberal inspired program. PS It’s over, and the acid test will be the butt thumping coming in Wisconsin.

And explain this: http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/john-farrell/2010/12/22/university-study-fox-viewers-more-misinformed

ProgLib said:
Isn’t this the same idiot who joked about assassinating Obama? And she wants to complain about the NYT’s criticism of Fox? Not only do these people have thin skin, but they never remember their own ridiculous history.

lol. Not only their listeners but their employees too. Good point. http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/john-farrell/2010/12/22/university-study-fox-viewers-more-misinformed

ProObamaAgenda said:
hey wingnut, get your head out of your ass……your jack stupid ass is here everyday making the dumbest comments possible……surly youre faking it……you rednecks are starting to become a real problem to the civilized world…..its time to get them FEMA camps cranked up and install a special dunce corner just for u

Don’t even waste your time arguing with a Fox diehard. He probably believes everything Rush Limbaugh says is true too.

Der Rupert is a promoter. He promoted the OJ case to the point where F#X was called, “All OJ, all the time.” His paper in old Blighty runs the “bikini of the day” BECAUSE IT SELLS PAPERS! His Faux Nausea machine hires a crew of outlandish blowhards and hands them scripts to read that will cause controversy, attract viewers and MAKE MONEY.
Glenda Beckie is the perfect character for Der Rupert’s circus. He’s selling the Apocalypse, and Rupert is promoting it. Glenda needs Israel, because the temple has to be rebuilt before the Second Coming can occur. But 8 of his 9 uber-villains are Jewish. Irony is not big in the Apocalyptic crowd.
Rupert doesn’t love the right, just their money. He would just as enthusiastically support the Black Death, if he could see a way to make a buck on it. His real hero is Phineas T. Barnum. “There’s a sucker born every minute.”

The New York Times **cough** Jayson Blair **cough** is a cesspool of haughty Liberal elites who incubate their whole limp-wristed lives in ‘Academe’ and they somehow exit that Liberal petri dish thinking they know it all.

The NYT deserves the bludgeoning they routinely get and I love seeing Paul ‘I-won-a-Nobel’ Krugman in an agitated state in every column he writes. Which, we all know, is the same thing time and time again: Keynesian thought is great; Bush was bad.

@ Cobra

So? Did I say she shouldn’t have?

All I said was that I don’t find it career ending. It was a stupid thing to say, but not evil.

What part of that aren’t you understanding?

@ Prog

How about the lie about FNC and Canada, which was discussed in depth on another thread, all over the lefty blogs, promoted by a well know Liberal voice, and almost entirely false.

Does that work for you?

gordonbloyershow said:
LOL, you just gave yourself away again. FEMA camps, LOL. YOU are INSANE. Now we know why you won’t use your real name. You are really Alex Jones.

Yes, Mr. Show. That is really your name. Idiot!

The Fox commentator — unsurprisingly — had nothing factual to add to the discussion, just another shake of the thin sheets they always wave whenever anyone points out that their coverage is nonfactual and overwhelmingly slanted toward a hard-right agenda. Which Fox reps have acknowledged time and time again (just not when the little people are watching). Nothing to see, folks!

Interesting to note that the NYT guy did not accuse Fox News of being cynical (which what’s'ername says is a virtue in a journalist), but rather Fox’s audience — by which I’m pretty sure he meant that they know what they watch is twisted nonsense, but love it anyway because it’s a thumb in the eye of those they hate. Interesting point, and I don’t doubt that’s true for some Fox fans.

On the whole, however, I think they’re just dumb as dirt.

Cynicism would be a step up for liberals, who tend to be whiney and immature like adolescents.

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ProgLib said:
That was sarcasm, you f*cking nimrod.

LOL, nice try. You can’t cover up for your fellow comrade. He is a truther.

jim bronson 990cc said:
Yes, Mr. Show. That is really your name. Idiot!

Why do you fools make yourself look stupid with that comment? I know that you are stupid but not that stupid. Trying to be cute doesn’t play here. You are still a coward lib hiding behind a phony name.

gordonbloyershow said:
All the complaints about Fox News are nothing but nonsense. Any objective observer knows Fox is the best news organization on cable or broadcast T.V. The losers that comment here just shills for the liberals attempt to discredit Fox. The only problem is they have to make up stuff and attack normal errors made by any news group. Attempts to inflate errors into some kind of conspiracy have fallen flat.

That’s a strange “objective” observation. Fox News constantly crows their news is “fair and balanced.” Yet, it must be a lie since conservatives constantly rush to defend the network against critics who they invariably attack as liberals. It it were actually “fair and balanced” it would roughly cheese off liberals and conservative equally.

Fox News’ claim to be the best cable news organization invariably boils down to it being the most popular. Like Rush Limbaugh is the most popular commentator on talk radio? The networks and other cable outlets like CNN and MSNBC don’t cater to the spin and news filters Fox News employs so conservatives flock to them in droves.

I know a lot of Fox News viewers. Generally, it’s all they watch. Sure, a couple are libs who watch Fox News on and off to keep up with Tea Party and GOP talking points. The rest to a man are dyed-in-the-wool conservatives who more often than not refuse to watch any other source of news because the ‘liberal mainstream media’ doesn’t bend over backwards validating their conservative points of view so is not to be trusted.

Fox News is the only information outlet I know that, after 30 minutes of watching, actually reduces your IQ.

sknabt said:
Yet, it must be a lie since conservatives constantly rush to defend the network against critics who they invariably attack as liberals. It it were actually “fair and balanced” it would roughly cheese off liberals and conservative equally.

This guy has obviously never read Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals. If he thinks that the attacks on Fox are from disinterested parties, he’s unaware of the organized claque of left-wing crazies and their students and fellow-travellers who happen to be on MessNBC, the alphabet news networks in general, the Daily Show and other lefty outlets. CNN also occasionally joins the fray.

The real reason is that Fox outdraws ALL their news divisions by large margins and like crows attacking a huge cat that’s king of the jungle, they’re using a lot of squawking & screeching to draw attention to the big cat.

Lefty useful idiots are dumber than dirt.

roadworrier said:
Fox News is the only information outlet I know that, after 30 minutes of watching, actually reduces your IQ.

Actually, reading most of the witless comments by Fox-haters on this thread reduces both one’s IQ & one’s faith in one’s fellow man.

nice_thought said:
Rudy Juiliani in Drag comes to mind if you frame freeze this chick. Or, hosni Mubarak with lipstick. Pick one for yourself.

Yep, this is the kind of intellectual that reads the NYT and disdains any other viewpoint. Does Mom let you out of the basement on Sundays?

glenn113 said:
Bill Keller is absolutely right along with the other 95% of newspaper editors whole feel the same way but are just afraid to say it. Thank you Bill.

Bill Keller presides over a paper that is losing 5% of its PAID circ every six months. A paper that needed massive cash infusions from Carlos Slim, the Mexican concrete king, to get by some quarterly due notes. A paper that at the rate it’s hemmorrhaging readers, will be defunct in less than five years—-having around 800K paid circ. The Wall Street Journal, owned by Murdoch, has INCREASED its paid circ by 250K since early 2009 and is now the LARGEST paid circ in the country, passing USA Today a year ago like two ships in the night.

The other 95% of news editors are also losing paid circ at between 5% &10% per annum—-they blame it on the internet, but then why is the WSJ and NYPost, two conservative rags, GAINING paid circ? Those 95% other editors are lying to their readers and the readers are catching on. Ditto TV & other mass media.

Joseph Glackin said:
Der Rupert is a promoter. … His paper in old Blighty runs the “bikini of the day” BECAUSE IT SELLS PAPERS! .”

Care to tell me what is wrong with wanting to make money, showing great looking women in bikinis or wanting to sell newspapers if you own the newspaper publishing company?

roadworrier said:
Fox News is the only information outlet I know that, after 30 minutes of watching, actually reduces your IQ.

You must have watched it for hours at a time.

“We don’t take things that are handed to us on a plate and we don’t have an agenda,she noted”

Who says the Foxies don’t have a sense of humor, I laughed so hard I pushed out a tea partier.

If the New York Times weren’t so unbiased, their accusations would be funny.

roadworrrier:

Do you think Foxnews is part of a Right-Wing conspiracy and the NY Times is revealing them for what they are?

RichS said:
Care to tell me what is wrong with wanting to make money, showing great looking women in bikinis or wanting to sell newspapers if you own the newspaper publishing company?

Absolutely nothing! It’s admirable. It’s not journalism, though. That’s the point. AS I said, Rupert is a publisher, a promoter. He runs babes in bikinis because it sells. He runs Beckie’s Apocalypse for the same reason. If this were Rome, he’d feed Christians to lions, and put his money on the lions.

Fox News is registered as an entertainment channel, not news. The people that think they are giving them news instead of propaganda are fools. You don’t have to be a leftie to figure that out.

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Liz Trotta is well-known as the veteran news commentator who once expressed on Fox News a desire that Obama be assassinated prior to the 2008 presidential election.
Out of curiosity, I went to the Fox News website to view her bio, just to see if it was fair and balanced, and there was no mention of the Obama comment. Just an oversight, maybe?

There is no need to “attack FOX.”
One merely needs to examine and explain FNC to realize their skewed point of view.

ImNotBlue said:
@ Cobra

So? Did I say she shouldn’t have?

All I said was that I don’t find it career ending. It was a stupid thing to say, but not evil.

What part of that aren’t you understanding?

Joking about assassinating ANYBODY is beyond “a stupid thing to say.” You still can’t bring yourself to condemn the statement, can you? Why are you putting your credibility on the line for Liz Trotta?

–Cobra

Cobra said:
Joking about assassinating ANYBODY is beyond “a stupid thing to say.” You still can’t bring yourself to condemn the statement, can you? Why are you putting your credibility on the line for Liz Trotta?

LarryB said:
Liz Trotta is well-known as the veteran news commentator who once expressed on Fox News a desire that Obama be assassinated prior to the 2008 presidential election.
Out of curiosity, I went to the Fox News website to view her bio, just to see if it was fair and balanced, and there was no mention of the Obama comment. Just an oversight, maybe?

Do you think Hillary was expressing desire that Obama be assassinated?
And if you do, do you find it strange that she is now the Secretary of State, as chosen by Obama?

Trotta was discussing Hillary’s comments, and made a stupid slip of the tongue by saying Osama, and then a stupid comment of her own.

I don’t think either one of them were seriously wishing Obama be *offed*.

roadworrier said:
Fox News is the only information outlet I know that, after 30 minutes of watching, actually reduces your IQ.

How much have you watched?

sarainitaly said:
I don’t think either one of them were seriously wishing Obama be *offed*.

Well, I don’t have the ability to climb inside Trotta’s mind to determine if she was being honest, senile, or stupid, all I can do is base my beliefs on having watched enough of her to know that a lot of anger spews out of her mouth during her commentaries. I wonder if you would be so quick to defend, say, Keith Olbermann if he had said on the air he desired that Bush be assassinated. My guess is that he would have been deservedly on the receiving end of a media and public firestorm and would have been terminated. FoxNews kept Trotta on to continue her “commentaries.”
But, you failed to address the point I made. The comment about Obama is what Trotta is best known to many people. Wouldn’t you think that would have been addressed in her bio by FoxNews?

Just remember: F#X News is an ENTERTAINMENT channel. They don’t claim to be news.

sarainitaly said:
Do you think Hillary was expressing desire that Obama be assassinated?
And if you do, do you find it strange that she is now the Secretary of State, as chosen by Obama?

Trotta was discussing Hillary’s comments, and made a stupid slip of the tongue by saying Osama, and then a stupid comment of her own.

I don’t think either one of them were seriously wishing Obama be *offed*.

Since I’mNotBlue cannot bring himself to CONDEMN the comment by Liz Trotta, what about you?

Sarainitaly, do you CONDEMN the comment made by Liz Trotta?

–Cobra

Ms. Trotta is too often far more reserved than she should be.

Cobra said:
Since I’mNotBlue cannot bring himself to CONDEMN the comment by Liz Trotta, what about you?

Sarainitaly, do you CONDEMN the comment made by Liz Trotta?

–Cobra

i don’t think it needs condemning, just as I don’t think Hillary’s comment does. They were both poorly worded comments, and neither intended to suggest they wanted Obama *offed*. If you actually listen to Trotta in the entire clip, you would know that.

Take a moment, rewatch her clip, take a deep breath and relax. You seem to be all worked up over a non-issue. She made a slip of the tongue and got a little goofy, and tried to make a joke out of it. She apologized.

Are you still harboring such hatred towards Hillary for her “Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June” comment? I think Obama got over it…

LarryB said:
Wouldn’t you think that would have been addressed in her bio by FoxNews?

why, that she made a verbal goof? Who hasn’t?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9X4LqqJrmEs

I watched the segment, and I listened to everything she was saying. I disagreed with her at the time because she was calling Hillary out for her comments towards Obama. She flubbed and said Osama, and that led her to say something stupid, something she didn’t mean. It was a stupid joke, and not intended to suggest Obama be *offed*. If you listen to the segment, you would know that.