She’s fiscally conservative but socially liberal?

Then the rally is for people like her!

“It’s definitely disheartening to hear that the show’s chosen conservative is embellishing her political views.”

Excuse me Hillary, exactly what part of “It’s a TV show not a politicial movement” did you not understand?

If you’re a Democrat or a progressive that feels like the Rally to Restore Sanity isn’t doing enough or not doing it right or whatever, you have sadly mistaken this TV show for something else and you need to move aside and let people who enjoy the comedy do so.

stoogedudes said:
She’s fiscally conservative but socially liberal? Then the rally is for people like her!

Exactly. The sane ones.

“Does Dorminy’s admission hurt The Daily Show’s credibility?”

Credibility? What credibility? It’s a COMEDY SHOW for pete’s sake!

The very word ‘credibility” shouldn’t be used in the same sentence as “Daily Show”. This whole thing is nothing but a ratings grab that offers an opportunity for the left to latch onto it leech-like and stage-manage some kind of phony rally.

Stewart, funny and popular with viewers, is allowing himself to be used as a tool by the left – whether it is intentional or not is another question.

I suspect that the whole concept spun out of his control very quickly – check out the detestably Ariana Huffington jumping on the bandwagon. It’s got legs all right.

But credibility? Puh – leeze.

I am shocked… SHOCKED…. that the Daily Show (a fake news show) would pass off a fake conservative.

“It’s that The Daily Show appears to be presenting her in a preconceived political box—meaning that like the rest of the media, it’s acting as if every American must fit into one of two categories, die-hard liberal or die-hard conservative. We’d expect better from a show that supposedly lionizes sanity.”

Or it could be that the show is making that point and has been making that point all along. Specifically, the point that between the ideological extremes are reasonable people who cannot be placed within conventional political boundaries and it is those people they expect to find at the rally.

If you didn’t notice, Oliver exaggerated the political leanings of the ‘Socialists’ by calling one of them a Communist and defined the Muslim man’s political leanings entirely on the basis of being a Muslim.

I appreciate the article, but you are either looking for something that isn’t there or just don’t get the joke.

Except by flying people to one location, there’s no way six folks from different areas could all board the bus at the same time. The three corespondents are all doing in-studio bits, so they’re obviously not still on the bus and because there’s nobody from the West Coast, it’d be a logistical hell to find an interesting, round-about route to drive to DC.

Still, thanks for the link to the Macon paper. I probably wouldn’t have seen the story, otherwise.

tatboy said:
I am shocked… SHOCKED…. that the Daily Show (a fake news show) would pass off a fake conservative.

I would still consider her a conservative. You’d be surprised how many conservatives under the age of 40 are socially liberal.

Stewart: Hey, we’re just a comedy show.TM

“(On the bus), they wanted me to argue (like a conservative), but I’m pro-choice, pro-stem cell research, pro-gay marriage,” she tells reporter Phillip Ramati. ”

Those are my views as well. I’m also an economic liberal. Yet on this site I’ve been called a nazi more times than I care to mention. I come back only after the tears have dried.

Remember: These are viewers of a unique show. Highly intelligent. Informed. Good sense of humour. Of course, there are no REAL conservatives in this group.

Was this (pointless) article just another way to bring up Stewart’s rally a couple of days before hand?

tgk said:
Was this (pointless) article just another way to bring up Stewart’s rally a couple of days before hand?

If that were the case, then why would the author take a critical tone?

Thumbs down huh? Well, POINT? 4 articles on the main page of Mediaite so far today concerning Stewart and his rally.

The word credibility and the name Jon Stewart don’t belong within 1000 yards of each other.

Whichever idiot thought it was a good idea to waste time researching something THE DAILY SHOW did needs to get their head examined.

Arrests in Florida this morning on voting fraud – absentee ballots again. Two people arrested, city commissioner and his campaign aide. Guess the party.

I wonder if Stewart will discuss “restoring voting integrity” as part of his rally? Nah, he is a dem, take the seats at any cost – to include dead people voting and false voter registrations, and absentee ballot fraud.

Stephen Hogan said:
If that were the case, then why would the author take a critical tone?

What “critical” tone would that be? Pointing out this “conservative”, is actually a libertarian?

No. This paragraph, especially the last sentence, is critical and attempts to question The Daily Show’s commitment to the underlying theme of their rally.

tgk said:
The problem with the Sanity Bus segments, then, isn’t that Dorminy is pretending to be more conservative than she really is. It’s that The Daily Show appears to be presenting her in a preconceived political box—meaning that like the rest of the media, it’s acting as if every American must fit into one of two categories, die-hard liberal or die-hard conservative. We’d expect better from a show that supposedly lionizes sanity.

The Real Royal King said:
Remember: These are viewers of a unique show. Highly intelligent. Informed. Good sense of humour. Of course, there are no REAL conservatives in this group.

Actually, it’s the show they watch in between Doritos and tokes, while waiting for the bean dip to microwave.

meh

The biggest joke will be on those who are actually taking Stewart’s shenanigans seriously.

It’s unfortunate the author of the article seems to completely miss the point of the joke about the sanity bus.
I haven’t seen one thing that indicates the Daily Show is presenting any of the riders as something they aren’t. They aren’t presenting her as more conservative than she is. They are encouraging her {for the sake of the joke and it’s point} to be much more conservative than she is and to be loud and obnoxious about it. Instead the people in the bus want to have reasonable discussions about the issues. They’re making fun of the media always going for the loud extremes, as they often do. Jon described it as the million moderate march. She’s a moderate republican. I’m a moderate Democrat that would be much more conservative on fiscal issues.

Cecelia said:
Actually, it’s the show they watch in between Doritos and tokes, while waiting for the bean dip to microwave.

Right, real thinkers can’t possibly enjoy the Daily Show. They’re still pondering the deep message from Glenn Beck.

CosmosDan said:
Right, real thinkers can’t possibly enjoy the Daily Show. They’re still pondering the deep message from Glenn Beck.

No, Beck’s show is a bit early for “the deep thinkers”.

At that hour, they’ve just staggered out of bed and are brushing their teeth with their fingers.

This is a dumb non-story. She presents herself in this interview exactly how she was portrayed on the Daily Show. The point of them trying to get her to fight is part of the joke of the segment.

Stephen Hogan said:
“It’s that The Daily Show appears to be presenting her in a preconceived political box—meaning that like the rest of the media, it’s acting as if every American must fit into one of two categories, die-hard liberal or die-hard conservative. We’d expect better from a show that supposedly lionizes sanity.” Or it could be that the show is making that point and has been making that point all along. Specifically, the point that between the ideological extremes are reasonable people who cannot be placed within conventional political boundaries and it is those people they expect to find at the rally. If you didn’t notice, Oliver exaggerated the political leanings of the ‘Socialists’ by calling one of them a Communist and defined the Muslim man’s political leanings entirely on the basis of being a Muslim. I appreciate the article, but you are either looking for something that isn’t there or just don’t get the joke.

Dang it, Stephen, I had to run to the store for lunch but you took the words right out of my mouth.

Looks like sane minds think alike! ;)

Not Your Typical New Yorker said:
The word credibility and the name Jon Stewart don’t belong within 1000 yards of each other.

Actually, it’s more like:

Not Your Typical New Yorker said:
The word credibility and [insert media figure's name here] don’t belong within 1000 yards of each other.

We have to remember, the point of the segment was to showcase the absurdity of boxing in liberals and conservatives. They did this on purpose so that John Oliver and Jason Jones could try to get the two sides against each other, but instead, they either found common ground or they disagreed, but in a sane way, where no “Hitler” or “Commie” or “racist” label was thrown around.

In other words, what Stephen Hogan said.

By the way, the title of the article says she’s not as conservative as she says she is.

Isn’t this basically Ms. Busis doing the same thing she accuses the Daily Show of doing?

But in her defense, she’s not holding a sanity rally this weekend.

Cecelia said:
No, Beck’s show is a bit early for “the deep thinkers”.

At that hour, they’ve just staggered out of bed and are brushing their teeth with their fingers.

LOL!! ok Good one

CosmosDan said:
LOL!! ok Good one

You’re a mensch, Dan!

Although this article had a lot of good things to say, I disagree slightly with part of it (though it’s wonderful to finally see a blogger with an opinion I can respectfully disagree with, there are so many completely insane exaggerated opinions in the bloggosphere and this is not one of them, kudos for that).

I’d like to address the statement that suggested that Dorminy’s admission may hurt the Daily show’s credibility.
“(the daily show) would say no… Jon Stewart’s program always falls back on the excuse that it’s a fake news show—which gives it license to exaggerate for comic effect. But when The Daily Show goes from making fun of real news to making news itself, that excuse doesn’t really hold up anymore.”

That’s a valid thought but I’d like to challenge it. I think the Daily show actually does a really great job at reporting facts where it’s appropriate to do so and making hilarious stupidity where that should be placed. For one, whenever the corespondents are on, that’s already a red flag that you should be laughing rather than learning, if you do want to take facts from the daily show (which of course should only be done IN ADDITION to ACTUAL news sources.) then the actual reporting done by Jon should be where you look at it as actual fact.

Also at times it’s quite easy to tell when they don’t want you to take what they say as fact. I feel like the part that was proven to be untrue which this article addresses isn’t really all that big a deal. I mean, of course they painted them as more extreme than they are! That was the point! They called the moderate respectable democrat a “communist” and they called the moderate respectable conservative a “bible belt beauty queen.” That being the case I don’t think you really can “burn” the show for not representing their true beliefs.

Then again, I’d love someone to challenge me with this. Such a refresher to see sane, smart minds talking about political issues haha.

Those who say she’s not a “real conservative” should look at a Mr. Barry Goldwater.

LOL!

The REAL sanity rally is on 11-02-10!

Hope you libs brushed up on your Creationist Theory – and the abolition of the anti-white racist policy known euphemistically as “affirmitive action”!!
heh-heh-heh

Hillary Busis said:
Polarization is the real problem with our political climate.

This is really all that needed to be said. The “Everything or Nothing” mentality does nothing but get a lot of us trashed by BOTH sides.

Sarah comes from a very conservative family. She does have decidedly conservative views on par with, say, Meghan McCain. We did not agree on a lot of things and it was not us that put the labels on us, it was Jason and John. That was the whole point. THEY put the labels on us, we didn’t. We all do have different political ideologies and we talked about politics and political issues on the whole trip (even when they weren’t filming us). The whole point is we can agree to disagree and through civil discourse, come to amicable solutions. And on a side note, a lot of Sarah’s conservative opinions were based on mis information. Is that true for a lot conservatives?

Cecelia said:
You’re a mensch, Dan!

Why, thank you {I had to look it up}

NORBIT said:
Hope you libs brushed up on your Creationist Theory

yeah, we’d better brush up on that cause it’s like complicated and stuff.

btw, it’s more accurately called mythology since it has zero science behind it.

I love how the media is pretending the so-called “rally to restore sanity” is anything but a left-wing gathering. By “sanity” they of course mean progressive values. All the usual left-wing Hollywood types, hipsters, racial agitators, gay rights people, PETA, anti-war folks, etc. will be there. It’s basically a rally for big government. How ironic that the same people who protested and marched against “The Man” back in the 60′s are now protesting and marching for “The Man.” You libs got co-opted by The Man. You are The Man.

On Nov. 2 we’re gonna stick it to The Man.

@Jim Moury: Thanks for your insider’s perspective. Any chance you’ll be profiled in the “W-S Journal”? Have you gotten any radio from the gig? I’m sure the free advertising wouldn’t hurt.

Have fun in DC!

Maybe it was hard to find an actual conservative dumb enough to go?

Hey, all. This article (the original one) sparked similar discussion in the Macon community as well. I’d like to share my comments regarding the original article and respond to a few points made in this one. To save time, I’ll just copy/paste my initial comments…

Via Facebook note regarding Macon Telegraph article:

“Thank you, Macon Telegraph and Phillip Ramati for highlighting this awesome experience with The Daily Show with Jon Stewart!
After reading some of the comments about the article, I thought it would be good to give a little more info and clarity regarding my political beliefs and what the show/Rally/Sanity Bus are about. I don’t want anyone to think that I’m purposefully lying about who I am or misrepresenting a particular population!! It’s all just the nature of the show.. Which is awesome. Anyway..

Comment:
So cool to see how this has sparked some local discussion/activity!

I’d like to expound a little upon the topic of my political background/beliefs… I’m a registered republican and grew up with mostly southern conservative ideals. However, I was also taught to respect the rights of all people and to learn from others’ points of view, no matter how different. Along the path to becoming an independent adult, I have (luckily) been able to shape my own personal beliefs. In some respects, this involved straying from the strictly conservative ideals. As the article said, I am pro- choice, gay marriage, etc. In general, I believe that all people have a right to be who they truly are (without oppression or judgment) and a right to know what is best for their own life. I am registered as a Republican, because I still hold “conservative” views regarding fiscal matters and the levels of government involvement (among others). As a matter of fact, I also tend to identify with some Libertarian positions. So, no- I am not a “true conservative”.

Though I did “play up” my conservative roots to catch some initial attention, I never falsified who I am or what I believe. The producers, correspondents, and participants were aware that my views are mixed. Everyone on the bus is a “grab bag” of political views. THAT’S THE POINT! The correspondents’ naming us Bible Belt Beauty Queen and The Socialists is strategically satirical! Their characters are assuming that because I have a southern accent and a conservative heritage, I must be a bible-slinging, hippie-hating, right-wing stereotype. The fact of the matter is that very few people fit perfectly into one political corner. Yet the current trend is for these extremes to be in the spotlight. “The media in general … it’s focused on conflict. It’s focused on creating drama and a false sense of urgency.”

I enjoyed being an example of a tolerant, level-headed southern Christian and (moderate)Republican. The Sanity Bus is meant to represent a total mix of differing opinion, religion, heritage, race, lifestyle… i.e. AMERICA! Or at least the America that most rational people recognize- regardless of how we are making ourselves look via our own media outlets. We on the bus all shared with and learned from each other, and we’re keeping in contact as we’ve become great friends!

Hopefully, this has helped to somewhat explain the premise of the Sanity Bus segments and the Rally. The Daily Show is a satirical comedy that draws from current news and events. It has never claimed to be “real news”. But we with a sense of humor enjoy that the show provides comic relief from the extremities of the “real news” while still giving us the relevant information.

It is very exciting to see Macon getting some attention on a national platform, however large or small. I love this place and think of it as my own now. It’s also nice that there is some discussion and interest happening locally. I really hope we can take a cue from the point of the Rally and enjoy that we’re ALL different, rather than screaming at each other. The mix is what I love most about our country, and I think we should protect and maintain this quality. Keep up the rational discourse!!

p.s. Sorry for the novel!

This has all been fun, and I’m looking forward to DC/the Rally with my friends!!!”

In direct response to this article:
- The information regarding any filming, etc was not meant to be publicized as an “admission”, and most of it is not entirely accurate anyway. This is simply the result of my excitedly telling a side-note story about the awesomely fun time I had traveling and hanging out with some hilarious people. The content of the article was taken in a direction that I could not foresee. In any event, it’s a TV SHOW! haha Even “reality” television has scripted material and logistical pre-planning. I apologize for divulging any information that may take away from the viewer’s enjoyment of the segment. In my eagerness to have the people around me share in such a great adventure, I went overboard.
- No one from the show asked me to fabricate any opinions to seem more conservative. Through conversation, the six of us organically discovered on which issues we agreed and disagreed. And actually, I believe it turned out that I AM, in fact, the most conservative of the group… The comments on here like:
“I mean, of course they painted them as more extreme than they are! That was the point!”
Congratulations! You “get” The Daily Show! Thank you.

Thanks to anyone who made it through this monstrosity. I hope this helps to put the inconsistencies into context…

Sarah Dorminy

At Stephen Hogan:

“I would still consider her a conservative. You’d be surprised how many conservatives under the age of 40 are socially liberal.”

YES! I totally agree with you! Thank you

Way to stick up for yourself Sarah! Haters are gonna hate. People should know that you are my new “adopted” daughter, and if they mess with you, their messing with me and homey don’t play that! (It’s an old reference, I’ll explain it to you later :)) BTW sister Brittany can’t wait to meet you and share embarrassing hyperhydrosis stories!

@Magistar-The Journal has called and put a blurb in todays paper and they are going to do an interview after the rally. I’ll take all the free advertising I can get and I will be pimpin for Upper Crust on rally day, trust me.
Love,
Jim “Joe the Pizza Guy” Moury

Sarah Dorminy said:
At Stephen Hogan:

“I would still consider her a conservative. You’d be surprised how many conservatives under the age of 40 are socially liberal.”

YES! I totally agree with you! Thank you

My pleasure. I can’t stand litmus-testing :)

I hope you and Jim have fun at the rally!

Seems that this woman is “conservative” in the same way that Jon Stewart is “moderate,” which is similar to the way that Fidel Castro and Hugo Chavez are “moderates,” as well.

I never thought I’d see an article on Mediaite, essentially written by an author that didn’t get it. As has been pointed out, it’s a purely satirical show meant to entertain.

@Jim Moury: I don’t know if you’ll revisit this post, but I pulled your place up on Google Maps and because I pass by on the interstate three or four times a year, the next time I’m in the neighborhood, I’ll bring the family in for lunch.