Alan Simpson will now officially be recognized as a RINO by the lunatics who populate the ultra far far far right.

If you disagree with Grover Norquist, refute his arguments.  Debate his policy positions.  But these non-stop character attacks from the Left have just gone too far.  This is not punditry, it’s not journalism — MSNBC is just the “smear du jour” network.  

Alan Simpson has become sane in his old age.  Or perhaps it’s just in comparison to todays right.

Alan Simpson is very much on the right.  But now I’m betting he’s nothing more than a RINO.

You said it!

HAHAHAHAHAHA….YEAH, IT NOT LIKE BECK EVER LOOKED INTO WHO WAS FUNDING LEFTYS!!!!!

In unrelated news I hear Karen Carpenter singing in my head …. “It’s Only Just Begun” ….

Judge allows American to sue Rumsfeld over torture
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g47CEnKf1uqeig6HJAvRSL_XQaIw?docId=28c59b8b05144562bd1fc45963f78e68

He also told O’Donnell several times that “if Grover Norquist is more
powerful than the President of the United States and the Congress, he
should run for President,” leaving open-ended the question of why he
hadn’t pursued public office.

That makes absolutely no sense. Why would you seek a position with less power than you already (allegedly) have?

Norquist is kinda greasy, but his influence is wildly overstated here. “Stop with the Tax and Spend crap.” is just a message that sells.

Now?

Writing in all caps does not make a comment sound more intelligent.  For that, you actually need to offer a substantive point.

Writing in all caps does not make a comment sound more intelligent.  For that, you actually need to offer a substantive point.

Why would they debate his policy positions when it’s easier to launch ad hominem attacks?  Liberals cannot help but to call names and yell about boogeymen that don’t exist.

Why would they debate his policy positions when it’s easier to launch ad hominem attacks?  Liberals cannot help but to call names and yell about boogeymen that don’t exist.

They can’t argue the merits, therefore, they resort to smears. 

HEY WAIT, WHAT WERE ALL THOSE ARROWS BACK AND FORTH ON GLENN’S BLACKBOARDS THAT WERE CONNECTING ALL THAT SH*T!!???!!??!HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

But NOW you’re outraged?

Spare me, you hypocritical one-note loser.

WOW – when has Alan Simpson ever gotten a headline here?  Would any of this happen to be because Grover disagreed with  Simpson’s deficit plan?

I don’t know, but I’m LOLing that mediaite actually is giving Simpson a headline, just cuz he went on MSNBC to trash republicans…MSNBC trashes republicans every day, and I’m sure Simpson told LOD he was gonna go after republicans which is why he was invited on, or something.

Simpson is a non-player, so is LOD…but nice try Frances.

snicker.

Sure, call me names.  That really makes you look intelligent. 

Then again, you could try refuting my point.  But I guess that’s a bit a too hard for you. 

I guess Simpson gets the headline becasue Farnces doesn’t want to talk about the outrageous Birthday Bash Obama is attending with his billionaire/millionaire friends???

Not a single word, NADA, NOTHING….instead we get Simpson.

It doesn’t get much funnier than that.

Ironic…

I have already said this before but get Alan Simpson his own show now MSNBC!

Why waste your time Simpson. Investigate Holder for fast and furious, lying to congress, dereliction of duty and subversion. Oh yeah, he ‘is’ the attorney general. Ok……..then just investigate your political enemies. Red herring politics once again from the presidents team. Expect the repetitive chant of the collective parroting ‘investigate Norquist’ ad nauseam.

Yeah, all those rich people who don’t pay their share of taxes under one roof.  Maybe he can get them to kick in a few billion to help tackle the debt, you know before they are forced to. 

You don’t have to dig very deep into Grover’s “personal life” to find something salacious. That’s all I am saying.

RIGHTY #1:  GEORGE SOROS GEORGE SOROS GEORGE SOROS
GEORGE SOROS GEORGE SOROS GEORGE SOROS GEORGE SOROS
GEORGE SOROS GEORGE SOROS GEORGE SOROS GEORGE SOROS!!!!

RIGHTY #2:  IT’S WAY OFF BASE LOOKING AT WHO FUNDS OUR MOVEMENT!!!!! 

And from my understanding, most on the Right don’t like Norquist. I think he’s soft on some other issues politically. I don’t like Norquist overall but I don’t dislike the guy either.

Poor BFD, he got lost in the wrong article.  Maybe someone can direct him to the Glenn Beck discussion thread.

Simpson does not consider Norquist his political enemy they’re both Republicans.  After working on the Simpson Bolls commission I’m betting he may consider him an enemy of the USA tho.

What a surprise,Mr. “drown the government in the bathtub”, who managed to avoid jail time with his BFF Jack Abramoff, uses thuggish tactics on Republicans to enforce his jihad against the American middle class. Funny how many of Simpson’s past statements and votes serve the same purpose.

I can’t wait to see how many more stalwart defenders of American Oligarchy rail against their new proteges.
 

Some of these comments(commenters) sound as nuts as the lunatics on MesSNBC.

I don’t think I need to spell it out which ones. But one things is for sure — it would be a BFD if I did.

I was born and grew up In Wyoming…I went to school with Alans kids..Knew the family….I used to have much respect for Alan!!!

How dare the POTUS have a birthday bash!  Who does he think he is the POTUS or something?  How dare he have billionaire and millionaire friends.  That’s only allowed for Republicans who sign pledges to billionaires and millionaires.  After all only Republicans should swear allegiance to Norquist and his pledge above the allegiance they swear to serve the people of the USA!

I wish you could step outside yourself and objectively read what you just wrote. You would be laughing too.

He can have whatever he likes, it just proves how out of touch he is with the American people.  While unemployment is sky high and many can’t even afford to pay their own bills, he’s partying with millionaires and billionaires.  He has always been in an elite bubble, never having to associate with the common working man in our society.

I guess the teabaggers didn’t catch that Simpson said that Grover “was a good guy”.

I guess the teabaggers didn’t catch that Simpson said that Grover “was a good guy”.

What exactly is Grover Norquist’s policy positions besides never, ever, ever raise taxes again, ever?  Making sure any Democrat can never govern as a Democrat despite the fact that they have been elected by the majority of the American people and making the federal government so small it can be drowned in a bath tub?

Oh I am laughing, not because it’s funny but because its the only way to keep from realizing the damage your liberal messiah has done to this nation.

He was always considered far right until the wing nuts came along.  Even Simpson thinks they’re nuts.

Before he became a RINO!  lol

RIGHTY #2:  IT’S WAY OFF BASE LOOKING AT WHO FUNDS OUR MOVEMENT!!!!!

Who said that, goofball? Look all you want. If he’s doing something dirty, I’d very much like to know it. Just don’t make shit up like y’all usually do is all I ask.

It is the sheer stupidity of the wingnutz.

They listen to any moron coming up with original ideas like a trip to Israel, or “I am willing to mediate in the debt controversy,” or “things were better for Blacks under slavery”

The wingnutz just don’t understand how f-up they are.

Just a nihilistic greedy pig for corporations.

Nobody in office has to listen to Grover. They certainly don’t listen to us, so why should they listen to him?

Do you suppose Obama already knew that he was going to completely ignore his commission’s recommendations when he picked him to co-chair? I’m thinking he did.

Some how this just rings hollow coming from those who fought tooth and nail to protect the super rich and large corporations from paying their fair share of taxes (if they pay any at all).  Excuse me while I laugh in your hypocritical face.

Poorly written……. Presidents team = MSNBC journalists ………My bad. :(

We can always dream.  I’d like to see that happen.

Yes, it’s completely thuggish to hold people to their campaign promises. HOW DARE YOU!!?? AT LONG LAST, SIR, HAVE YOU NO SHAME????!!!

Yes, it’s completely thuggish to hold people to their campaign promises. HOW DARE YOU!!?? AT LONG LAST, SIR, HAVE YOU NO SHAME????!!!

Yes, it’s completely thuggish to hold people to their campaign promises. HOW DARE YOU!!?? AT LONG LAST, SIR, HAVE YOU NO SHAME????!!!

Lawrence Odonnell and Simpson fail to understand that majority of America agree on the tea party premise that big centralized government and their over spending needed a huge reduction. Conservatives want real cuts not cuts which are down the road, which never are really made. Ron Paul 2012

Yes much better to suppose in your head than face the facts of reality …. that the TP terrorists were willing to take down the whole government in order to protect the super rich and huge corporations.  Now start whining about those greedy welfare recipients.  

“I don’t want to eliminate government, just shrink it enough that I can drag it to the bathroom and drown it”, is approximately what Norquist said.  I can just see him holding Uncle Sam’s feet up while pulling his head under the water and it ain’t a pretty picture. 

That is exactly what Alan Simpson would like investigated.  Because the right does listen to him.

I am all for making government big enough to find a naked Grover Norquist whimpering in his “closet” and strangling the life out of him.

How did this topic turn into the subject of “making shit up”?

Oh that’s right, you moved the goal posts.

Not going to dis the man but I do disagree with him!

Off topic but one memory I have was when he paid a visit to our School and spent 20-30 minutes in each classroom(small school)talking to us about Politics..blah blah blah….when he made his way to our classroom and stood in front of us it was awkwardly silent…then he took out a silver dollar from his shirt pocket and dropped it and then hacky sacked it off his shoe back into his shirt pocket… the classroom erupted in laughter. The guy has people skills!!

Not going to dis the man but I do disagree with him!

Off topic but one memory I have was when he paid a visit to our School and spent 20-30 minutes in each classroom(small school)talking to us about Politics..blah blah blah….when he made his way to our classroom and stood in front of us it was awkwardly silent…then he took out a silver dollar from his shirt pocket and dropped it and then hacky sacked it off his shoe back into his shirt pocket… the classroom erupted in laughter. The guy has people skills!!

What about the Dems that held the same position.  Why aren’t they terrorists, hypo?

Yet 3/4 of the American people wanted revenue increases as well as spending cuts.  Yet the TP terrorists were willing to bring down the entire US economy as well as the world economy rather than do the will of the American people who they swore to serve.  Instead they served Grover Norquist. 

How does it feel to support a party who would blow up the world economy for Norquist? 

….IMO, this is exactly why our country is in trouble.  We fight with each other so much, we’re losing ourselves.  Strong attacks right and left are out of control and to the point where people can’t argue policy any longer and result to over-the-top rhetoric as the premise of any argument.  The only damage is being caused by ourselves.  It’s time we face that.

Oh that’s right, you moved the goal posts.

That’s exceptionally lame, BFD. Even for you. Who said no one should look at Noqrquist’s funding? I notice you didn’t answer that.

Those who signed his pledge don’t want to be found violating it. That’s pretty simple.

What does that deluded little fantasy have to do with the Simpson-Bowles Commission Obama formed then ignored?

I agree with you, so what in my statement would be “ironic” exactly?

Nice memory.  Thanks for sharing it. :)

You lost me at “super rich”, 250,000 isn’t super rich.

The Dems aren’t blowing up the economy for Grover.

Yeah. We know.

Ah more of that liberal civility.

What about the Dem’s that held the same position as the TP.  Are they terrorists too?

Not sure what Democrats were willing to take down the US economy rather than allow any revenue to be included.  But any small group of government officials who are willing to go against the will of the majority of the American people and destroy the world economy just to get their way … are terrorists … be they right or left.

Sure he was. That’s why Obama picked him to co-chair his fiscal responsibility commission. Because he’s far, far right and always has been until these CRAZY Tea Party people came along.

Do you actually think before you post, ever? Or just long enough to cobble something together that you think sounds good enough?

Funny how you only mention those on the right when talking about terrorists until you are asked point blank to address your hypocrisy. 

They listen to any moron coming up with original ideas like a trip to Israel…

Gee, no one’s ever done that before.

Did Jethro forget to turn the barn light out again, Skippy?

hmmmmmmmmmm I wrote a long answer to this and it just disappeared into the ethers.

I don’t know of any Democrats who were willing to blow up the world economy in order to make sure there was no revenue included.  But any leaders be they Democrat or Republican who ignore the majority will of the American people and hold the world economy as hostage in order to get what they want is the very definition of terrorist.

That’s one way out.

i refute his argument that any tax increases:

a) hurt the economy

b) destroy jobs

c) help the middle class

“With only thirteen Republicans refusing to sign his anti-tax pledge during this round of budget debate, former Sen. Alan Simpson told Lawrence O’Donnell tonight that it’s time to “peel all the layers of the onion” and figure out just why people seem to listen to intently to Norquist.”

Grover Norquist is a corporate whore plain and simple..

Oh I see, you asked me twice.

sorry, “hurt” the middle class

she’s a lot brighter and more articulate than you

yeah, obama is oh so liberal that he basically has been caving to far right wing 
demands since his first day in office:  wars, tax cuts, surveillance, deregulation

of course by “attacks” (especially from the left) you mean “legitimate criticism”

exactly!  apparently pablo answered his own question

it’s in comparison to today’s right

EVERYTHING is in comparison to today’s right

that’s why we’re a right of center country

And yet, when you talk about those who are terrorists, you only refer to the TP.  Something to think about kitty kat.  Next time you get your talking points from the Daily Kos, make sure they aren’t ripe with hypocrisy before you repeat them ad nauseam. 

i agree

Fact: Simpson is on the same plain as McCain when a
debate is on between views they are the ones that are in the I cave in group on
the issue and then state it was in the best interest too compromise. Investigating people because of opinons is a crock. Taxing is too
high. Spending is too high. Both need to be lowered and will be lowered. At 14.5 trillion in debt it’s time to cut and cut again. Talk about freezing budget at todays levels with no increases and 1% across the board cuts on all expenditures would save about 9 trillion in ten years is gaining steam and should get support before both sides get ax happy on eithers pies.

i’m sure he’d like to, but with the GOP in control of the house, not possible

i’m sure he’d like to, but with the GOP in control of the house, not possible

We a spending problem not a revenue. Increase revenue(taxes) and your giving an already over bloated govt more reasons to spend. Cut spending now. You do not keep spending money you do not have.

yeah, obama is SUCH a party animal!  i mean, look at the guy!  he can barely
get through a sentence with slurring or crying (oh, wait, that’s boehner)

No, that isn’t refuting. That’s asserting. They’re very different things.

250,000 is more than 95% of the country makes (and by extension, about 98% of the world)

and btw, people who make 1/4 million a year have these things called

“investments”  (you can google it)

otherwise known as “Capital Gains” (which are taxed at 15%)

that is where the vast bulk of their money is located (along with property, etc)

Fact: Okay let the DNC pay for it! Not me and others tax money!

But, but we can just spend more money!

Fact: Thanks for the childrens view on the matter!

Michelle 8 minutes ago in reply to progressive_kitty

Funny how you only mention those on the right when talking about
terrorists until you are asked point blank to address your hypocrisy.__________________________________________Funny how you still haven’t told me which Democrats were willing to bring down the world economy in order to prevent any revenue increases.  So there is no hypocrisy except for yours.

Norquist helped design the Contract with America.  I suggest you go back and read it.  You might learn a few things. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contract_with_America

@ Fsnook–

What I meant by “ironic” was the fact that it’s just interesting that no matter who is President, or what party is in power, there is over-the-top rhetoric that IMO, doesn’t necessarily add to any cogent argument.  I take no sides and am a much happier individual on account I try my best to analyze a situation without using partisanship as the point of departure for a political argument.  If we keep starting the conversation with any predisposed conclusions about “the other side,” we end up in this loop where nothing gets done and we don’t advance policy that helps us all.

Darladoon–I’m not a Liberal nor a Conservative.  I have strong views from both sides on different issues.  Unfortunately, and I mean no disrespect, but you are part of the problem.  Take a look at the posts on this site, and many others.  Fight Fight Fight, and no solutions.  We gotta get beyond ourselves and direct those voices at Washington on OUR terms if we want real solutions, and not the ones mired in political diatribes. 

I’m not trying to preach to you, I’m just exercising my right to speech, just like you guys.  At the end of the day, we are still Americans.   And tomorrow we will be too.  That’s the cool part about it.

i guess you didn’t notice how many dems voted against the bill?

why be civil with terrorists?

are you a coddler of terrorists?  i thought only obama did that?

No Obama is the one who can’t get through a sentence without lying.

You mean jobs, jobs, jobs and protecting Medicare? Those promises? How’s that working out for ya, America? Who knew they really meant banning abortion, unions, denying citizens their right to vote, and serving their corporate paymasters?

centrist—

how can you NOT fight with the tea party?

they’re f*cking crazy and, more important, they don’t/won’t LISTEN.

it’s like arguing with someone who doesn’t believe in evolution.

Fact: People don’t like debt! Socialist maggets are hating America and are out too destroy it!

that’s refuting.  and there’s plenty of evidence to back my claims up.

(see:  bush administration)

Obama voted against raising the debt ceiling under Bush.  Is he a terrorist?

Well according to you libs, if you vote no on raising the debt ceiling, then you are a terrorist.  Obama voted against it under Bush.  So I guess according to you guys, not only does he like to hang with terrorists, but he’s one as well. 

wow, it’s grover’s right hand man, with more bullsh*t talking points, all disproven
by recent history

wow, it’s grover’s right hand man, with more bullsh*t talking points, all disproven
by recent history

Kitty Kat, Was Obama a terrorist when he voted against raising the debt ceiling under Bush?  Yes or no?

Kitty Kat, Was Obama a terrorist when he voted against raising the debt ceiling under Bush?  Yes or no?

obama had a completely different set of reasons for doing so, so NO, he’s not a terrorist

The whole world is calling them terrorists now … even sane Republicans.  This taint is not going away.  Ice cold karma.

it’s “maggots”

and can you define socialism for us, just4thefax?

HAHA, good one lora doon!

you don’t pay ANY income taxes, so what are you worried about?

Fact: 40% of todays level of spending is borrowed money! I can’t go to a bank and get a new credit card and spend like the government is now!  The bank would laugh at me and close the door behind me if I did ask them for more money cards but it’s okay with you that right now today that the government is doing it on future generations dime?

Oh got it hypo!!  If you are a lib and do it, you aren’t a terrorist, but if you are a TP’er and do it you are.  

“We a spending problem not a revenue.” 

This has become a joke to everyone but those who are still believe it.  Even the ones who gave you thin talking point don’t really believe it.  They know it’s a lie.  Keep on truckin!

Fact: 75 demarodents were against it. Would have too get exact names but it could be done.

I think it’s hilarious that you think this is a winning argument.  Obama only has 30% of Independents left that buy hope and change, I don’t think calling political opponents terrorists is going to help with the other 70%. 

Still waiting for you to tell me about those Democrats who held the world’s economy hostage.  Think long and hard on that!

Must be true.  You said so.

i don’t disagree, but he’s obviously more rational and willing to negotiate than 
the crazies in the House GOP, who refuse to allow ANY tax revenue whatsoever

this is why you’re sooooooo hypocritical.  you can’t prance around pretending
you’re soooooo concerned about the debt, and then turn around and reject
tax increases on the upper 5%

I wouldn’t even call him a RINO. He make John McShame sound like a Tea Party member. I would call him a traitor and a fascist. He needs to go back to his Castle and drop dead.

you can thank two things for that:

a) wars

b) bush tax cuts

You know what those morons got after their trip to Israel?

You know.

michelle,

you’re not too bright, are you?

if you argue that obama is a terrorist for voting against raising the debt ceiling,
then you are also arguing that the tea party are terrorists for repeating the same tactic

so, good job!  you just agreed with me.  

has obama used the word terrorist?

wow, you just made a great argument for tax increases

14 trillion in debt seems like the perfect opportunity

michelle keeps diving deeper and deeper into irrelevancy

Fact: Look at votes here! http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2011/roll690.xml

No.  There are always going to be those who will vote against the debt ceiling when they already know they have the votes to pass it.  It’s called voting your conscious while knowing it will have no impact.  It’s quite another matter to vote while knowing you have the ability to destroy the world economy.  It’s nuanced I know.  But the difference between the two is massive.

Lora Doon, It’s you that’s not too birght.  I’m NOT calling Obama a terrorist for voting against it.  I’m saying under your template, he would be.  Try to keep up!

His veep did and that’s close enough.

darla just told you michelle, she thinks obama and the republicians are terrorist

Fact: Darladoon again has zero to offer!

Then if there were Democrats that were willing to bring down the world economy in order to protect no revenue increases they were terrorists too.

Great answer!

Fact: Last resort only and across the board even the 51% that pay no taxes would have to pay their fair share. 9 trillion at 1% leaves it short, but closer than the crap out now!

Don’t know how many times I have to tell you guys to pay attention to all the polls.  They include the approval ratings for Democrats and the GOTP too.

Fact: Huh what?

Yes, Darla… calling people who disagree with you “terrorists” and “hostage takers” is “legitimate criticism.”

Exactly how big is your ego?

Ah, no.  Voting no against the debt ceiling was not the issue.  Your reason for voting against it was.

Great liberal spin, kitty kat.  Change your little box, after dumping that pile of crap it’s really smelling bad!

Remember folks, only folks on the right complain about Republicans who no longer represent their ideas.  On the left… that never happens.  Right, Zell Miller?  Right, Joe Lieberman?  Right, any Democrat who has ever dared to cross the protest line, and appear on FNC?

Fact: Maggets is twang for maggots!

give me your money rich people, gimme,gimme

So every Democrat, no matter what they believe, is a Democrat… and the left has never complained or talked about someone who “changed their mind?”

Seriously?

Where’s @progressive_kitty:disqus to tell you that your post isn’t on topic?

Oh wait… it’s YOU!  I guess the rules are different.  Who would have guessed?!

i can spend it better, its the governments money anyway

It’s not really true that the right does not like debt.  If it were true they would support increases in revenue.  The American people are just not that stupid that they can’t see that.  Good luck.  Time to say we don’t have a revenue problem we have a spending problem again.

Fact: Demarodents said nay more than republicans.

Fact: Demarodents said nay more than republicans.

Fact: Demarodents said nay more than republicans.

The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit
is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government
can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing
financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s
reckless fiscal policies.

Barack H Obama

No, I mean the “No raising taxes” pledge. The one we’re talking about. That one is the one I mean. Because that’s what we’re talking about. I most certainly am not talking about the list of delusional talking points in your head.

its called politics

note to cjdohio and michelle:

all terrorists are not necessarily scary muslims

the definition is simple:  ”An individual who uses violence, terror, and intimidation to achieve a result”

hardly a controversial argument

terrorism is a tactic, not just something done by scary muslims

Michelle 15 minutes ago in reply to John
But, but we can just spend more money!_____________________________________No.  If we are serious about bringing down the debt we need a combination of spending cuts and revenue increases. 

there are also more republicans overall

Fact: Bush is no longer in office and is not the president today. Everthing that is on the plate today is owned by the Obama government period and if you think otherwise you are a dumbass!

Which morons? The ones that haven’t gone there yet? No, I don’t know,
Skippy. Tell me what they got after the trip they haven’t been on yet.
That sounds like fun.

Hey, how’s your salt lick doing?

translation:  ”i have no idea what socialism is, i just like to throw it around because
it makes me feel like i’m winning a losing argument”

Well, it’s not a cause/effect type thing, but there is a very, very strong correlation.

Yes.  But politics that does not harm.

michelle, you argued that obama called the repubs terrorist

he didn’t

will you now retract that statement?

First they came for the communists,
and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a communist.Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a trade unionist.Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a Jew.Then they came for meand there was no one left to speak out for me.

They’re going after Rupert Murdoch. They’re going after Don Rumsfeld. You’re advocating going after Grover Norquist. Perhaps, you should remember, Senator Simpson, with this administration, YET means You’re Eligible Too. And, what goes around, comes around. 

That you couldn’t have said any better. lol

how much money you make a year?

I don’t know why I give you the respect to dialog in good faith with you.  My mistake I guess.

i think we need last resorts (according to your own deficit hysteria)

michelle obviously can’t understand the difference

You keep refusing to address the conflict inherent in your argument. Man, if only cognitive dissonance were painful.

He only had to look at George Soros, not exactly a secret. Soros brags about wanting to create a “new world order” and with Obama, directed by Valerie Jarrett and John Podesta, he found a perfect tool.

can you explain to us another way of paying for the things we all need, other
than this thing called “taxation”?

we ALREADY take money from rich people (and poor people)

so your entire point is 100% nonsense

and besides, LOGICALLY, if you don’t want to take from rich people,
then you want to take from poor people (in the form of spending cuts)

so, we NOW KNOW, that cjdohio, in the midst of the worst recession in 75 years,
would rather punish the poor.

thanks, cjd!

tell us what you need…….not what you want

The Democrats who voted against it did so because it only had spending cuts and no revenue.  Plus they already had the votes for it to pass once the demands of the hostage takers were given in to so the Democrats knew their votes wouldn’t do any harm.  Got it?  probably not.

Fact: I have in the past described socialism but I haven’t got the time to do it for another tit sucking lazy loser progresive cult member like yourself. I have given you the facts and isn’t up for debate since they are facts. Facts are facts nothing more nothing less! Have to sleep for work now. Something else thats a fact that I’m sure you have no clue about Darladoon!

No I won’t Lara Doon.  If Cheney had said it, would you hang it around Bush’s neck?

and if i gave you 10 dollars this year, but next year i give you 5 dollars……..am i taking money away from you?

I submit that the real Rino’s are the Teavagelicals. The far right assault on decent Republicans should be opposed. Sensible people far outnumber the textual fanatics when combined.

“everything on the plate today” is because of obama?!

that’s a “fact”?

Dissonance connotes discomfort.

bush was far more civil than cheney (believe it or not)

i didn’t realize there was a conflict inherent in my arguing that michelle is increasingly
irrelevant

yes

right.  they really just hate three things:

a)  minorities

b)  abortion

c)  gun control laws

no i gave you 5 dollars…….see what happens when you live by handouts

He is used to be considered far right wing but with the teabaggers out there he’s now considered a moderate.  

just keep making shit up darla

translation: “i have time to write a paragraph about nothing, but no time to actually define
socialism” (which he can easily be done in one paragraph)

(that was the weakest counter-argument i think i’ve EVER read on mediaite)

well, you know 2 and 3 are true…

i just went the extra mile and added ‘hatred of minorities’ because, having
spent a lot of time in the deep south, and being african-american, i know this
to be true

The far right has been playing the same game ever since Emancipation.  The argument has changed surprisingly little.  

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/33/Freedman's_bureau.jpg

i understand you just added the first one because you stereotyped a group of people

so you actually want to argue that major, major budget cuts don’t hurt minorities?!

“can’t hurt the billionaires, because they’re the job creators!  but we can certainly
hurt the poor, lazy blacks, because they’re only function is to ask for handouts”

that’s not a stereotype, that’s reality

nice….change your points……lol

No one should have this kind of power.  No one should sign any pledge because you don’t know what will happen.  Obama gave the republicans what they wanted.  Remember baggers The  Cryer of the House said he got 98% of what he wanted.  So remember the double dip recession will sit on the cryers desk along with all the baggers who forced this vote.  By the way once Obama sign this republican bagger bill the economy will lose over 300,000 jobs.  Welcome to 1937 repeat.  This is the same thing republicans did back then.  Since you all love depression I hope you all lose your jobs and homes first.  The domino effect is going to happen.

He is used to be considered far right wing but with the teabaggers out there he’s now considered a moderate

And you’re a fucking moron who knows nothing but says whatever, authoritatively.

http://tinyurl.com/3u6ojbo

im a conservative and i love alan simpson, but you are correct about the far right

Despicable and cowardly racial politics. President Obama would be so proud of you.. ……2530 thumbs down on your profile. Greg the real world hates a race-baiter, that’s why Obama will be a one term president. This is 2012 not 1865. Grow up.

Real

The primary historical document in fact documents cowardly racial politics.  Stunningly, the content of the document provides a complete summary of the Teavangelical position on government support for those in need.  Your anger is palpable.  I understand… to look in the mirror and see such ugliness reflected must provoke desperate emotion.  

Historical context hurts when you are on the wrong side of an argument you barely comprehend.  

You have little or no knowlege of history. You’re in need? Get a job and don’t go whinning for others to take care of you. Your historical context is so far off that I can only assume that you are a retarded, taught history by a retard or both. You’ve got a hard life ahead of you son, you better learn how to take care of yourself rather than begging for a living. Blaming other for your problems is what a spoiled child does. Our president has been a great example for you. God help our country.

How civil were we with Benedict Arnold?

Fact: No they wanted Obama to fail because he is black!

Fact: Greed are progressive cult members wanting to steal from others by measure of more taxes because they don’t know how to quit spending money that they can’t earn themselves because of a mental malfunction!

I just paid $ 23.86 for an iPhone and my girlfriend loves her Dell laptop that we got for $ 38.76 there arriving tomorrow by UPS I will never pay such expensive retail prices in stores again. Especially when I also sold a 42 inch LED TV to my boss for $ 665 which only cost me $ 62,81 to buy. Here is the website we use to get it all from, GrabPenny.com

WE need more taxpayers. 

That translates into JOBS in the private sector, not more government workers.

WE need less government!

We do NOT need more subsidies

That is what you and I (WE) both need.

The govenment punishes the poor….and you seem to like it.

Just wait until you have to buy a light bulg next year. It will be very expensive…. You can Thank a democrat for that!

To you smokers, Obama increased cigarette tax as soon as he come into office…. You can Thank a democrat for that!

The government does not care what you pay for gas….they want the more expense and yet unprofitable wind and solar energy… You can Thank a democrat for that!

Thank’s Democrats, Thanks alot!

Hey Alan,
Aren’t you supposed to be meeting Mccain at the Dog Track this afternoon?

You do remember how the President treated your report, don’t you?

Geez, he showed more respect to Benny, just as he was throwing Israel under the bus!
Gettin’ awfully crowded under that Obama Bus!
LMAO!

Mister funny-man old-fart ex-senator demands investigations of citizens that irk him? Not so funny to me.

The mere fact that Simpson would appear on the socialist hack Larry O’ Donnell’s failed cable program is all I need to know. Allan Simpson was and is part of the problem. The notion that Grover Norquist would be targeted for an investigation because he advocates smaller, more responsible government and lower taxes is simply scary. You should be ashamed of your self for saying that and for appearing such a discredited cable network!

I wish he would run! He’ll bend Norquist over and give him the green weenie!

Corporations are sitting on TRILLIONS in profit and no jobs.  Why? 

How about they just pay their fair share?

Real

“you are a retarded” 
well reasoned and expressed.

“care of yourself rather than begging for a living.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq0QJOLbl2E

“God help our country”
Indeed.

whats their fair share?

I thought it was pretty well-known that Norquist has a Muslim wife and a lot of Muslim financial connections. In fact he quietly placed a lot of Muslims into top gov’t positions during the Bush years. It is also true he refuses to deny — or even discuss — the issue at all, and I wonder why. 

well something is wrong some where.  For these TP folks to sign a pac with the views of Grover and not the will of the people is scary-and should be investigated.  If he’s clean and those who support are then find if not we as Americans need to know what’s going on.

You mean like that smaller, more responsible government that W ran? If my memory serves me right, the real estate bubble burst,the stock market tanked and require a Federal bailout…..Oh, that’s right its the Democrats fault and then-candidate Senator Obama fault.

Simpson cracks me up. He’s the most crotchety old geezer in Washington. He says what he thinks and lets the chips fall where they may. That’s a damn rare thing these days.

Traitor, fascist, drop dead, huh?  What did Alan Simpson do to you personally that makes you want him dead?  Do you want a real discussion, or do you want to just have another Civil War between red and blue states?

Traitor, fascist, drop dead, huh?  What did Alan Simpson do to you personally that makes you want him dead?  Do you want a real discussion, or do you want to just have another Civil War between red and blue states?

There should be only one requirement of elected officials and that’s a Pledge of Allegiance to the United States of America and to the Constitution. Anything else is anti-American and has NO place in politics.

Libs sure get angry when they lose.  Sounds like Simpson needs to change his Depends.

Well I just read as I was looking up who pays Grover Norquist that he runs an Islamic movement. Look it up

And the Bush tax cuts

It’s on a “opinion” show is it’s alright. Isn’t the standard Fox News set?

Simpson is a conservative.  Until now of course.  Now he’s a RINO!

Yeah, compare Simpson to Hitler.  That should work.

NAVY SEAL TEAM 6 is all that come to mind

Why is this thing like a football game for so many people? Grover Norquist is a water boy for the corporate interests that control this country. Corporate media has so many people convinced that he’s playing for your team and he’s going to save you from big bad taxes, but he’s really there to make sure that the big business interests don’t have to pay and that you do when the US sends its military half way around the world to protect big business’ assets. This debt deal, this is how you pay. The gov’t ran up all this debt fighting these two wars, and now the consequence is austerity for you and more tax cuts for the wealthy. The bankrupting of America, this is Grover’s work.

Thank you Senator Simpson!

The Islamaphobic Tea Party will fall off their Hoverounds when they see that their Supreme Commander, Dear Leader Grover Norquist has been paling around with Muslim terrorist financiers for YEARS!
 
http://www.nationalcorruptionindex.org/pages/profile.php?profile_id=21

And here is a good collection of info on Grover Norquist:
http://www.channelingreality.com/Cards/grover_norquist-1.htm
“Norquist calls it the ‘Leave-Us-Alone Coalition’ a grouping of gun owners, the Christian right, homeschoolers, libertarians, and business leaders that he has almost single-handedly managed to unite. The common vision: an America in which the rich will be taxed at the same rates as the poor, where capital is freed from government constraints, where government services are turned over to the free market, where the minimum wage is repealed, unions are made irrelevant, and law-abiding citizens can pack handguns in every state and town. ‘My ideal citizen is the self-employed, homeschooling, IRA-owning guy with a concealed-carry permit,’ says Norquist. ‘Because that person doesn’t need the goddamn government for anything.”

The Klanbagger Kabal in Kongress seems to be terrified of Grover. They burn an extra cross in his honor at every gathering just to appease him.

Simpson a fascist?  Look up the meaning of the word because you obviously don’t know what it means.  Wait I’ll help you:  Fascisim : a
political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that
exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a
centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.  A simpler version is that of Benito Mussolini, “Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power.”

If you were my advisor and you advised me to expand in todays environment, you would be enjoying the unemployment line.

No one knows what this government will do next week, let alone next year.

This is a terrible business climate orchastrated by this administration…our President and his advisors have no business experience and it is becomming clearer each day to those who bought into his “Hope and Change!”

Wow.  Simpson is looking to lose his job due to voters thinking he’s not a Republican now.  If there’s Kool-Aid to drink, the GOP/Teatards will drink it.  Simpson didn’t drink it.  Here’s what’s next for him:

1.  He’ll be called a RINO by his constituents and the bobble heads on Fox.
or
2.  Someone will compare him to a Nazi.
or
3.  He will be removed from any committees.

That’s how the GOP/Teatards play this game.  It’s for keeps.  Their sole purpose in office is to destroy the economy.  They have proven it.

As I recall, ”Follow the money” was a good idea in dealing with Republicans in years past.

felix_w said:  “…but these non-stop character attacks from the Left….”  Seems to me like this reporter is just reporting what happened. Are you saying that Alan Simpson is “from the Left”? That’s really weird. I guess if you are from the Right you might consider this piece a “character attack”. I would approve of an investigation into Grover Norquist’s politics. He does, indeed, seem to have too much influence.

Okay I’ll debate.  I am a disability advocate in Phila, PA and I believe if you are completely NOT for raising taxes, ie revenue than the only option is to cut and that  lets face it means social programs.  I heard from my director that Mr Norquist is totally against entitlement programs, ie welfare, foodstamps, medicaid, medicare, social security. In other words he wants low income people to fend for themselves.  Is it going to far to care for  , help the less fortunate?   Besides medicare and social security , those using these services bought into them throughout their lives with their taxes.  If you really want to cut taxes, cut spendin gthem on unjustified, unnecessary wars as in Iraq.  Plus trim the military.  Don’t take much needed services for those who need them.   Grover Norquist does not acknowledge the responsibility of the US govt for those within the US who are senior citizen , low income, disabled.

Yea.  A.K.A the eight years of the G.W. Bush Administration.  If we’re not careful, it will be either Rick Perry, Michelle Bachmann or Mitt Romney.   My question is; why hasn’t Obama called out this little fact?  The real – TRUE – REASON for the debt ceiling stand off on the part of the republicans/tea baggers  was really their handler Grover Norquist. 

 ” in… who is he slave to?”  My Guess – GEORGE H.W. BUSH.  or the Koch Brothers.  

NORQIST IS A TREASONOUS SNAKE….AND YOU DEFEND HIM….ARE YOU A TERRORIST…CAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE IT.