I know a version of that Golden rule is found in every major religion
and every set of beliefs from Hinduism to Islam to Judaism to the
writings of Plato.

What’s that? “Do unto the government as you would have the government do unto you?”

When I talk about shared responsibility, it’s because I genuinely
believe that, in a time when many folks are struggling and in a time
where we have enormous deficits, it’s hard for me to ask seniors on a
fixed income or young people with student loans for middle-class
families who can barely pay the bill to shoulder the burden alone.

How about you stop piling the burden up?

if a Republican quoted the Bible in formulating public policy, Mediaite would be attacking him in a New York minute.  But Obama gets different treatment, here as always.

he’s confusing charitable and moral obligations with coercive levies that will never, ever, achieve any sense of “fairness”…

Very eloquent as usual Mr. President. Refreshing to hear upbeat and optimism in the strengthening of America and her citizens. For all the Bible thumping and Jesus spewing the Republican/Tea party uses you would think they invented religion.

 Very eloquent as usual Mr. President. Refreshing to hear upbeat and optimism in the strengthening of America and her citizens.

Life is not fair.People just want a chance to have a little piece of the pie, I don’t mean getting it out of the garbage either, just a chance.That is one of the many reasons this country is great.

Of course he did…

If taxation is now some sort of religious-type golden rule of “shared responsibility” wouldnt it follow that part of that sharing would be for the large percentage of folks that pay no income taxes to also put something in (time or money)?  Or at least take less out (entitlement cuts)? 

Shared means to me all parties involved make sacrifices, not just the groups that kick in the most money kick in more.

this guy has more crap than a damn goose.

Governor Moon Beam in CA should try that since he’s predictably trying to raise taxes and spending – “God told me so, so I’m telling you”

If cutting taxes supposedly generate “revenue” shouldn’t conservatives be against them? I mean, it’s more $ going to our “evil gubbermint!”.

Wholly false but completely paranoid.

Because republicans are hypocrites….  for eg. Booing the golden rule, Voting for Newt…. Family Values…

 When I talk about shared responsibility, it’s because I genuinely
believe that, in a time when many folks are struggling and in a time
where we have enormous deficits, it’s hard for me to ask seniors on a
fixed income or young people with student loans for middle-class
families who can barely pay the bill to shoulder the burden alone.

What a joke… so he wants to appeal to the wealthy because it is morally the right thing to do? Is Obama attempting to govern by spiritual mandates? – quick someone call the Tea Party!

I will believe Obama is speaking from true conviction if he can prove he
gives 10% of his income as tithes to his church as the Bible requires.

Your entire response is snarky, but the initial portion is exceptionally vile.

Yeah, he does gets special treatment. Like being routinely called a Muslim.

False meme. Everyone pays taxes in America, directly and indirectly.

The anti-Obama fervor reminds of the run up to the invasion of Iraq and the people who supported it. Some lack of facts, same sea of misinformation and the very same people. They’ve established their horrible decision making ability…it’s funny that anybody takes them seriously.

Jesus healed the sick, threw the bankers out of the temple and fed the poor…

The only thing the GOP feeds on is Jesus.

Barack, don’t do it. Don’t remind people of what Jesus said about the rich and powerful and helping the poor and tending to the sick and turning the other cheek. Don’t do it. You’ll anger them.

Trying to clean up his Republican predecessor’s mess.

I have to say, California and Texas are two truly great states, yet we seem to elect the worst governors in the country. Irrespective of party. Total mismanagement. Just yesterday, we find our governor’s multi-million dollars tech outrage produced less than 40 jobs.

HOW MANY TIMES HAS OBAMA BEEN TO CHURCH SINCE HE WAS ELECTED PRESIDENT? 2
HOW LONG DID HE ATTEND A RADICAL BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY CHURCH IN CHICAGO BEFORE HE WAS ELECTED? 20 YEARS.
HOW MANY US PRESIDENTS HAVE BOWED TO MUSLIM ROYALTY? ONLY OBAMA

MOST OF US ARE PRAYING THAT HE GETS THROWN OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE IN NOVEMBER, UNLESS A MERCIFUL LORD SHOULD TAKE HIM OUT SOONER.

 How can the republican party pick and choose which parts of the bible should be a part of government?

How many times did he kill Bin Laden?

 Don’t forget Kenyan.  Even now, they’re still using Kenyan.

Most presidents don’t go to church as much because of security issues. nice try though.

PS. Bush kissed the Saudi Prince…

SEEMS THAT JESUS SAID, “THE POOR SHALL BE WITH YOU ALWAYS.”

DOES GOVERNMENT STEP IN WHERE IT THINKS GOD CANNOT MANAGE HIS BUSINESS?

DOES OBAMA THINK HE IS GOD?

I don’t know the particulars of Texas, though that sounds funny and much like the insane bailouts Obama tried.   In Kalifornia, it doesn’t really matter which party the governor is from since the state is really run by the Democratic legislature and bound by union and pension fund agreements.   The only way CA will recover is if the legislature is at least balanced, then the governor could still be of either party but hopefully the legislature would keep them in check.  One party rule is never a good idea. Absolute power corrupts absolutely, CA proves it over and over, Obama/Reid/Pelosi proved it the first couple years of Obama’s administration.

 How much crap exactly does a damn goose have?

HOW MUCH MONEY DID OBAMA AND MICHELLE “TITHE” TO ANY CHURCH OR RELIGION….OR EVEN DONATE TO CHARITY????

Read what I wrote again.  I said income taxes which around 50% of the people do not pay.  Do you want to make an argument that they do?

Most other taxes and fees are applied evenly to everyone (as they are a % or set fee).  That is a shared responsibility.

I would love to see a zero deduction flat tax. 

Pie?  Did someone say pie? — Al Sharpton

Yeah, the Bible also talks about being a good steward with what you have. Obama should consider that when he thinks about bailouts and stimulus bills. 

I thought Republicans were the religious demagogues? Interesting of Obama to force his interpretation of scriptures on every American… 

YEAH, BARRY…TELL US ALL ABOUT HOW YOU AND YOUR CRONIES HELPED ALL THE POOR PEOPLE IN SOUTH CHICAGO AS A FREEWHEELING COMMUNITY ORGANIZER…AND HOW MUCH YOUR BUDDIES MADE WITH GRANT MONEY AND HUD MONEY TO BUILD SUBSTANDARD LOW INCOME APARTMENTS THAT IMMEDIATELY FELL APART…HOW VALARIE JARRETT WAS PART OF YOUR “CHRISTIAN MISSION FOR THE POOR BLACK FOLKS IN THE GHETTOS”.

Because it takes from one and gives to another?

BOO-YAH! Nice

TYPE LOUDER

Yet some pay so much more than others, and with emphasis on income taxes versus sales taxes drug dealers and other under-the-table workers pay almost no taxes in comparison to a responsible person working as hard as they can (legally).

the same way the democrat party picks and chooses which parts of the Bible (no abortion, private property rights) should be a part of government.

Just who was God’s stenographer who took that dictation down and transcribed it?  I’m thinking some typos occurred along the way.

Another desperate attempt, by people who know not of what they speak, to confuse the honest and faithful among us.

Obama, and by extension his useful puppet Warren Buffet, have set a standard that dictates those who gross more than $250,000 annually, must pay a higher tax rate. Not because they claim to be penny-pinchers or that it will automatically balance our books or that we will automatically have a better life. No, it’s because it is the “fair”, “moral” and now, “Christian” thing to do. This tax-rate is literally an affront to “fairness”, and now, “Jesus’ teaching.” “Guys like me” are literally getting away with something immoral.

Can we at least admit that every single day Obama and Buffet don’t write out a check to the IRS, relieving them of their sins, they are absolutely bad people? Not by my standard, by their own, there is no question. This thing, where liberals think leading by example is an evil conservative plot, will always baffle me. Whether it is Michael Moore suing Miramax for some greedy corporate profits, Al Gore with his massive carbon footprint, or now a millionaire and a billionaire extolling people, who make a fraction of what they do, to pay more. Oh yeah, and they won’t pitch in a single red cent until you do.

This is all about morals and righteousness, and now, our faith in God? No, it’s not. Talk is cheap. And so is their disingenuous rhetoric.

We are a growing country, thus our expenses are going to naturally increase. There is no way to avoid that reality, nor would we want to. Compare any company, and you will find that growing companies almost always increase expenses. What they also do, however, besides increasing expenses, is increase income. However I never hear you talk about increasing tax revenue, pablo. Rather, you argue in favor of even lower taxes, which is like a company arguing that they should not increase revenue.

LOL as bad as that may seem he is still getting a better return than did the Obama stimulus…  and a far better return than Solyndra.  And hey!, seems that those 820 people in Texas are still gainfully employed.  

http://www.chron.com/news/article/Gov-s-tech-fund-creates-820-jobs-spends-169M-2871801.php 

Last year Obama donated 14.1% of of his income to charity or $1.7 million.

It’s a conspiracy! Quick! Get your tinfoil hat back on! The rays are penetrating your cranium!

Calm down. Have some dip. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdSyx13l5E0

 All caps: one the few ways one can tell over the internet that another has lost his or her temper.

Not much really … small pellets.  I see them in the park all the time … it’s nothing like the horse shit that the GOP craps out every day of the year.

http://articles.nydailynews.com/2010-04-15/news/27061807_1_obama-s-nobel-income-tax-day

Which wouldn’t have happened if it weren’t for Bush. You lose.

I really should have said elephant shit … much more appropriate terminology.

Well, by November your portion of the debt will be over fifty grand, why don’t you hurry up and pay yours off and start working on someone else’s share,

In 08 Obama said running up that debt was unpatriotic, then we each owed 30 grand..  Yeah, he’s looking out for all of us, sarc/

sez the former “anti-war” nut…

Move to Illinois.

” MOST OF US ARE PRAYING THAT HE GETS THROWN OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE IN
NOVEMBER, UNLESS A MERCIFUL LORD SHOULD TAKE HIM OUT SOONER.”

– this is why Christianity isn’t so popular no more.  People like you are turning it into a religion of hate and ignorance.  Praise the lord and pass the ammunition.

“to whom much is given…”  what if it’s not GIVEN, but WORKED FOR?????

The phony royal rex buck down hog thinks that when an illegal alien goes to the mini mart to buy a case of beer for breakfast it’s “paying taxes.”

Nah, no conspiracy, just ignorance and idiocy. Which I see, you have in spades. Keep it moving, bitch.

 You can edit.

So, he’s saying he creates policies by asking himself WWJD?

Shouldn’t liberal heads be exploding all over the place right about now?

 Then it is up to your morals and the way you were raised as a child.Do onto Others.             Help out your fellow man….lend him a helping hand……

Not at all. There is a lot of very valuable instruction in the Bible. It’s important to remember we’re all not following Christ’s teaching when we buy a new Ethan Allen sofa to put facing our 54″ LED television. 

Liberals have problems with politicians using their interpretation of the Bible as an axe to chop at the rights of other people…..Christ would not want his lessons to be used as a tool to judge others. 

I mean, honestly. If he’s going to use scripture to endorse his tax plan, he should also look at what the scripture would have to say about homosexuality and abortion (not to mention the Biblical prohibitions on cheeseburgers and lobster bisque and transvestites et al). I wish he’d leave scripture out of it.

ask a republican…  but i suspect that they can cherry pick rather easily…  

Guilt.

 Do you.Not that I care.Can you prove it? Does it pave your path to your heaven? I wonder how much money the church gets off of Mitt? Will that help him get elected?Or Gingrich for that matter?

You ever hear an Obama critic talk like that?  Its either a troll or a non-english speaker trying to sound like an Obama critic.  Maybe NONE will come back and encourage us to make $87 per hour at home…

The fact that he claims to be a christian should make the libs heads explode!!

He also gave the starving man a fish and when the man returned the next day He asked him how was he going to get his fish today and the days after?  He asked him how long was he going to depend on Him giving him fish.  He then told him he must know how to secure the fish himself without depending on others.

I can’t speak to buying a case of beer for breakfast, nor indeed, any shopping at Mini Mart, so I’ll leave that to you. I can say when I go to Juan in a Million for Chorizo, Asadero and Roasted Chili breakfast tacos, the people around me, red and yellow, black and white, and brown all pay Texas’s ridiculous 8.25% sales tax (state and city).

And, the employer needs to be jailed for doing that.

I have a problem with anyone using their interpretation of the bible to form policy. Especially a tax plan.

Comparing the government to God is exceptionally vile. Take it up with Obama.

“The servant who knows the master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants will be beaten with many blows. But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked.

Meet your new master, Barack Obama. Praise him, Kook!

It was indeed a massive hunt for Bin Laden under W, wasn’t it?

Especially if they’re Mormons.

Of course, that’s not what he said, was it? You’ve previously made your disdain and contempt for Christianity and organized religion very well known, indeed. That’s fine. But, it makes your remarks snarky and inappropriate.

Your premise is false. We have far more government than we need, and it is not central to our productivity.

the bible says: “thou shall not steal”—– repeal carried interest rules & go back to reagan capital gains policy- 28%!!!!!!!

He’s not comparing government to God.  He’s stating that his beliefs as a Christian are what motivate him to use the government for charitable purposes.

The bible requires 10%? Can you quote the verse?

Interesting that you consider what he’s doing ‘force’.  He focused on Christianity because he’s a Christian, but he referenced parallels from within nearly every major religion.  Doesn’t seem like he’s forcing his interpretation on us at all.

Considering that many Republicans have done just that, I have to consider this claim patently false.

lol….are you so insanely dumb that you didnt know that both the bank and auto bailout was done in the fall of 2008 by the bush administration and not by President Obama????….thats a FACT that wingnuts refuse to accept beings you erased the years 2000 till 2008 from your limited memories…..no go ahead and say G W Who????

Agreed. I think there’s a pretty big gap between the messages of JC on charity and how the Federal government spends our taxes. 

Unfortunately, every politician must throw a bone to the people who have been hopelessly fooled by organized religion. However if politicians want to at least highlight the more positive parts of the Bible that would be nice.

How can you ask those that have nearly nothing to sacrifice more?

The predictable ignorance bandied about in these comments by those whose personal antipathy toward the president trumps any concern over evidence, fact or policy is amusing, to say the least. It is a fact that most liberals have a religious affiliation, and it is also true that the majority of liberals consider themselves to be Christians. The opposition meme that liberals are anti-Christian and anti-religion is utter and complete hogwash. Liberals are far more concerned with preserving the religious freedom of individuals than are those who believe that the government should be allowed to proselytize for Christianity. Feel free to disagree with the President’s use of Scripture or his interpretation of it, but please stop judging the validity of his religious commitment based on whether or not he agrees with you.

Christians believe that what is given is given by God, and that what is required is required by God. Obama thinks that’s the government’s role.

In essence, yes, it is. 
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0212/72363.html

and you are a complete and total liar. 

“In essence”? In other words, not at all.

So you’re now denying that you have expressed contempt for organized religion? Would you like to retract now?

You’re stretching a mile for that one.

You’re speaking for all Christians? I’m surprised the Holy Father agreed to that.

is there anything this narcissistic fake wont politicize!?

Will one media talking head please grow some brass baIIs and call this out for what it is……

Absolute opportunist pandering, two faced, hypocrisy.

Watch it! Be careful!

life is not fair yet you still want to mandate some sort of fairness?…  that makes as much sense as pissing money away on solyndra, ener1 and the chevy volt…  who cares whether it will work or not, let’s just assuage our guilt…

This thread is all over the map in terms of: displaying folks’ ignorance of scripture, to displaying folks’ disagreement over what scripture says, to displaying folks’ disagreement over the difference between what scripture says & what it ‘really means’, to grudgingly granting President Obama’s knowledge of scripture but at the same time suggesting  he somehow doesn’t understand scripture but without actually making that case, to middle school snark on how he’s laughable for invoking scripture as guiding his approach to his life & job because there’s nothing in scripture about iPads, mortgage derivatives & HMO premium-to-cost-base ratios.  

It all brings to mind that scene in Lawrence of Arabia, when Lawrence & the fellow assigned to guard him arrive by camel at an isolated mid-desert well, and a tribal prince played by Omar Sharif comes along & shoots & kills the guard, then tries to rationalize the killing based on some byzantine explanation that mixes biblical charity, Islamic teachings, tribal history & Hammurabic Code, & Lawrence calls out all the members of the prince’s tribe & all the Arab tribes as “a little people”. This thread exposes those who’re using it to score some combination of sanctimonious religiotic & juvenile talking points as “little people” – & you, MichaelJKeane, as about as representative of these “little people” as one can get.  

Little, belittling, intolerant, ignorant, jingoistic, illogical, indefensible, insensible – with all those on display here, and more, it’s not surprising the subject is religion.   

Aren’t liberals the ones who are always screaming ‘SEPARATION OF CHURCH & STATE” ? So why is Obama allowed to justify policy by using religion? Does. not. make. sense. 

Where have I expressed “disdain and contempt for Christianity and organized religion”?

I have said I am not religious. Show me where I have expressed disdain and contempt. 

What else are you going to give up? Social Security when you need it? Medicare when you need it? how good roads or schools?  How much are you personally willing to give up so Romney can get another tax break?   

Hopefully it will all just trickle down on you.

Did I say I was quoting him? No. And yes, he is saying he forms policies by asking WWJD. 

They use the chapel at Camp David, even the Obamas.  President Bush and staff often had their own services and daily prayer and Bible study at the WH.

BTW, joining hands and then cheek kissing is  protocol when greeting the Saudis.  Apparently the WH protocol office instructed Obama to bow, perhaps he was uncomfortable with the cheek thing or due to the size of that event he bowed instead.   These little details are left up to the staffers in that office, they brief the presidents on proper protocol prior to foreign events and  I think they are career employees so, we really need not be blaming the presidents.

Did OBOZO hussein bring along his well-worn copy of the koran to this prayer meeting ?
 ALLAHU AKBAR !!!!

I don’t know how to respond to that. What did I say, specifically, that has really inflamed you?

I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyway back peddle so fast. Breathtaking. Thank you.

Nuance. I see.

“I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyway back peddle so fast. Breathtaking. Thank you.”

LMAO! Backpeddle my ass.

In other words, I am right, and you are 100% completely absolutely wrong, and a liar.

The Real Royal Emperor
Nuance. I see.

**

Still waiting… Where have I expressed “disdain and contempt for Christianity and organized religion”?

You can’t. You are a liar.

“Comparing the government to God…”

Citation, please.

Saying that your spiritual beliefs inspire you act a certain way is a far cry from likening the government to an almighty creator.

Ok ,again ,what are you personally willing to give up to make up less taxes , the rich getting even richer and you getting less Social Security or none at all. I have paid into FICA for 40 years now.  And what about Medicare. Your going to get old and sick someday believe me. Some one is going to want a lot of money from you someday. You want to give that up so Romney get another tax break? You tell me…

is there nothing this narcissistic fake wont politicize?

i’ll express it…  organized religion and party politics both creep me the hell out…

What we need is a WWOD (What Would Obama Do?) web site.

He has never showed up at the National Prayer Breakfast, yet now it is 2012 and he arives, now an imperfect being, Scarecrow in tow, with a campaign speech and lots of scriptural quotes.  Unfortunately he was unable to bring his prompter.

With him demanding that Catholic hospitals provide the “Morning After Pill”, he’s going to have to hope that his 42% Obamatron Zombies show up at the polls in November, right after Halloween.  They’ll also have to bring along with lists of their dead associates who need absentee ballots, or illegal immigrants and homeless vagrants to work multiple voting places. 

Mediaite has never run a single article accusing Obama of being a Muslim.  But count how many times Republicans are attacked here for their religious beliefs? 

Really, not forcing?  You really need to look at Mathew again, I see nothing about the govt, but I do see about my responsibility.  Go to talk to your buddy Joe Biden, he gave 300 bucks out of 300K to charity.  You give I’ll give, do not force it.  I believe in sharing, the more I have shared, the more the Good Lord has given me to give away.

Maybe he should tell the American people that god told him to do it. Seemed to work for the last guy, when he wanted to do something.

YOUR A CENSORING PIECE OF CRAP!

CANT ALLOW OTHERS THEIR OPINIONS HUH?

HE IS A NARCASIST AND A FAKE AND YOURE A CENSOR.

F BOTH OF YE :)

His spiritual beliefs cannot and will not replace a Christian’s charitable obligations with the tax code.

no bozo, Bush gave a 17b loan to them, not a bailout and then Obama put the bailout in place.  He denied, denied that they should go through Bankruptcy and then when Obama got it set up for the ONIONS to gain control, he forced GM and Chrysler into BK. 

only in DC and to liberals would losing 28B would that be considered a success.  How many people could you have fed for that amount of money.  never ceases to amaze me how liberals have no common sense.

this guy will use and politicize the scripture even at a prayer breakfast.

shameful.

Social security and Medicare are supposed to be paid for with the money we all contribute into them. Thing is, they’ve spent it all. Outside of government, this would be known as a Ponzi scheme.

politicize the scripture even at a prayer breakfast.
sad.

Scripture and this President—–proving once again what a fraud he is. King of the panderers.

get real, everything is about id and ego with barry…

10%.

sez the well known bigot..gtfoh!

You can’t even get through two sentences without a lie.  He has addressed the National Prayer Breakfast many times you lying weasel.  Why do you have to LIE to make your point?

Since you can’t get past two sentences without lying, then we can assume the rest of your post is a bunch of crap laden lies too.

Yep. And you far left loons went against him the whole time.

 The Nobel money was not his to keep. 

In running for re-election, Obama will be able to say he delivered on four core objectives: restoring economic growth in one year after inheriting the worst recession since the 1930s; ending the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq; delivering universal healthcare; and saving the now buoyant American auto sector. And Romney wants to run against Obama’s record. Go for it, Mitt.

Anyone else notice how yellow Obama is looking these days? He doesn’t look well at all. I think something is wrong with his health. The only people I’ve ever seen turn yellow like that were people who came down with hepatitis.

Both John and Mark scribbled that one down.

Here’s a tissue..

The GOP is going to beat this guy with Romney? How is that going to happen?

 …send Obama more money!

 I remember the days when liberals would have a meltdown if President Bush said “God bless America”.

Oh, he’s always like that.

I, for one, look forward to seeing every freaking wingnut come out against religion now that Obama has supported it.

Let me be the first to call faith a RINO.

Easy.  All state ballots will have two choices for President.  Your ideology will most likely determine which one you pick.
a)  bankruptcy
b)  recovery

I would take 28 billion over 2 trillion for non existent WMD’s any day.
And the unemployment benefits itself for millions of people out of work would have cost much more than the 28 billion for the auto bailout

Would you like to rebut the statement, or do you just have the silly deflection?

Did they allow him to bring his Prayer Rug?

Wasn’t Jesus against piling up debt?

What the president seems to be missing in quoting the “much will be required” scripture is that the expectations are God’s not government’s.   

Although God is God, even He doesn’t coerce our giving, it’s still our choice.   When Anania and Sapphira, in the New Testament, pretended to give to the church all the proceeds from a land sale, Peter asked them why they felt that lie was necessary because it was their property to do with as they wished.

I don’t mind (actually, I enjoy it) the president relating how his spirituality informs his policy, but he’d do well to remember that while a tax system is a necessary thing and it’s a democratic thing (enacted by duly elected leaders) giving per penalty of law is not something to be compared with gifts which come from the heart.

Right, that’s why Republicans passed Medicare Part D and No Child Left Behind and want to regulate woman’s uterus and pass anti-sodomy laws in the bedroom. The only time there is more government than we need for them is when it comes to helping the poor.

I’d like a national sales tax.

What a disgrace.Barack Obama gave a campaign speech at the National Prayer Breakfast this morning.
Obama: I pushed Dodd-Frank and Obamacare because of Christ!
Can I Get an  ALLAHU AKBAR ?

Many times?  He famously skipped it his first year in office, pandering to his base.

Ttthe means one tenth.  You will find the answer to your question in the Old Testament, the Israelites were commanded to give a tithe/tenth of what they produced or earned.  It changed in the New Testament.  Although many do tithe one tenth to their church, charity or a combination of both, we are asked to give freely from our heart, etc.

Jesus was a socialist.

Certainly less offensive than than George Bush saying God told him to go to war in Iraq.

“I said income taxes which around 50% of the people do not pay. Do you want to make an argument that they do?”

You know why? Because half of them make less than 20000 (who still pay other taxes) and rest are seniors. Under Reagan, it was 18% but after years of trickle down, it has jumped to 50%.

“I would love to see a zero deduction flat income tax. ”

Ofcourse you would, that’s why you idiots are called regressives. 

He gave his inheritance to Brigham Young and in an article I read in either Time or Newsweek, he gives an extremely large amount to his church, charities and has a Foundation…Tyler Foundation that also funds various charities on a regular basis.  The article also said he gives out a lot of cash that does not benefit him tax wise.

I always find the GOP Christianity in conflict with the original form of Christianity. These phonies wants to keep it all to themselves while the bible preaches the opposite. Why do you bother yourself with calling yourself good Christians, when you are at war with it’s basic principle? Why do you hate yourselves? 

If OBAMO stopped masturbating over higher taxes and spent more time fixing the stuff he said he’d have a ‘laser-like focus’ on, he might not be despised so much.

They have been subjected to indoctrination since they were children.  If they were born in Afghanistan they would be devout Muslims right now.

Citation, please.

You hear a lot of voices that no one else does. (Color me unsurprised.)

Yes it was and as Panetta said, they used information from the previouse administration to finish the job..

Go SEALS, to bad Obama had to put them at risk by patting himself on the back for their work.

Has mediaite ever called him a Muslim? 

Yeah, use the government to act like God…. you disproved your own point right there…

The Nobel Prize committee is now under investigation because they did not adhere to the established guidelines when selecting the recipients.  Obama’s Nobel is one that is under scrutiny.

btw, the first tax returns when the Obamas came in office said they donated 5.5%, the 14% last year, I believe, includes the Nobel prize money, correct me if I’m wrong. It will be interesting to see what coes from their hearts this year.

All of the Bush families give huge amounts to charity and the Cheneys give even more. Algore was a cheapie and I will never forget Hillary writing off $4.00 per pair of Bill’s underwear that they donated to charity.

*sigh

Is God the source of charitable acts?  No, he is not.  People who do good works in his name are the source of charitable acts.

I am a Liberal who beleives in the separation of church and state.  That is, I do not believe there should be a state sponsored religion such as in Iran.  I  am also a Christian and my values are guided by the Christian religion.  Therefore, those morals are used in my relationships with others.  I treat others as I expect to be treated.  Those two things are not mutually exclusive.

What Religious beliefs ?

Charity and morality are two different values.  We are expected to do both.

Actually, you are right. I stand corrected. I mixed the “National Prayer Breakfast” with “The National Day of Prayer”. President Obama has not taken part in that, breaking a long standing tradition.  He had a Tee Time he couldn’t miss.

Now, am I still a “lying weasel”? I guess I am, along with being a racist for disagreeing a black man’s policies.

Do you have the ability to refrain from using personal attack, or is that the only way you can debate a subject?

On November 7th 2012 when I will be driving up and down the streets with my horn blasting, my neighbors might be disagreeing with my policies, but that will be the day that the prayers of the “National Day of Prayer” will be answered. 

Hey, even under Carter you could get a job, if you wanted one.  This clown wants us all on food stamps living in the projects, while he and the Scarecrow party down.

Isn’t he a sock puppet from Texas?

obama’s use of scripture is no more an establishment of a national religion than a city hall nativity scene…  but i don’t expect the aclu to get on his case about this anytime soon…

A fabulous solution for anyone employing an illegal immigrant. The risk would not be worth the few bucks they save by hiring them.

 Nowhere in the bible does it state that the government must/should care for the poor.

Throughout the bible, God commands us, the ‘individual,’ to care for the “least among us.”

“To whom much is given, much is required,” means the individual, not the governments.

 I would have liked to hear Obama’s prayer for this nation. Not a lecture on how all the major faith’s of which he subscribes to, influence his moral agenda vs. government policy.

Why are you assuming that every one who doesn’t agree with the democrats is a Christian?
Why do you jump to all sorts of conclusions based on your hate, and not on fact?
Why are Republicans more charitable than democrats? (proven)
Why haven’t you read the bible and realized that nowhere in there does it say that the government is responsible for you.  Nowhere!
Why do you make false, silly statements and think that anyone would think you have a thought that hasn’t been programmed into you?

Now, get off the couch – put down the remote and get a job.  

There’s that word ‘take’ again….You liberal/progressives just love that word, don’t you?

Nothing about giving, just constantly taking….From the government, individuals, the rich and employers, etc. etc.

Like Mitt,  I guess you don’t know that many people do not have much income.  If they were to pay a flat tax, the would not be able to feed and clothe their families.  A progressive tax is more fair.  You give as God has blessed you.  If he gave you much you give much.  If he gave you little, you give little.  Sounds fair to me.

*sigh

The government is an extension of us, We the People.  WE are the government.  Our representatives are just that, representatives of the people who live in their respective districts.

And clearly, all of those private donations worked well for those that lived in the poor houses during the Gilded Age.  Clearly, the poor would be much better off if we returned to an era prior to the New Deal reforms which provided us with relative economic security for decades.

Republicans have been part of the problem for a long, long time. See Teddy Roosevelt.

Funny, I didn’t know you could comment on blogs with your remote. Another out of touch individual. 

Matthew 22:15-22 we read:Then the Pharisees went out and laid plans to trap him in his words. They sent their disciples to him along with the Herodians. “Teacher,” they said, “we know you are a man of integrity and that you teach the way of God in accordance with the truth. You aren’t swayed by men, because you pay no attention to who they are. Tell us then, what is your opinion? Is it right to pay taxes to Caesar or not?”But Jesus, knowing their evil intent, said, “You hypocrites, why are you trying to trap me? Show me the coin used for paying the tax.” They brought him a denarius, and he asked them, “Whose portrait is this? And whose inscription?”"Caesar’s,” they replied.Then he said to them, “Give to Caesar what is Caesar’s, and to God what is God’s.”

You proved my point.  Thank you.  

They only increase revenue on the poor , sick, and elderly.

You’re oblivious then. But it’s short – so let’s go thru it:

“If he’s going to use scripture to endorse his tax plan, he should also look at what the scripture would have to say about homosexuality and abortion”

The burden of proof lies with the proponent. That’s you. It’s up to you to show how the scripture provides unambivalent guidance on homosexuality & abortion. 

I say it a) does not & b) can not.  

The latter first: medicine per se is a fairly new science, certainly within the last 200 years; indeed, relatively safe abortion technologies have only been around since after WWII; scripture not only does not purport to provide guidance on future technologies, it could not predict the future, therefore cannot provide guidance on abortion, & it DID not do so. Now the former: start by defining heterosexuality – go ahead, try. Proposing that scripture condemns a category of human sexual behavior pre-supposes you can frame categories of human sexual behavior in some meaningful way, meaningful in the sense of, among other things, explaining when it represents some benefit or advantage to society & to individuals, & when it does not. You can’t start by conflating reproductive capacity with sexuality, because human sexuality is immensely broader than procreative behavior, & there are enormous & enormously important benefits & advantages to non-procreative sexual behavior & interaction.  

“(not to mention the Biblical prohibitions on cheeseburgers and lobster bisque and transvestites et al” 

You aim to mock the President, but instead you end up mocking yourself. First, these 3 are not like each other – the first two are food fads, presumably recent, but regardless of their heritage, essentially technologies of passing fancy. But the third is a state of nature to the human genome: just as one is born male & another is born female, some are born indeterminate between those ‘definite’ conditions. Some are born with both female & male genitalia in an overt & functional condition – not many, but some, & that’s been going on for the entire history of hominids. Some are born with male genitalia but a sense of femaleness, others the converse; that too is something that’s been going on throughout the development of hominids, for 6 million or however many years since hominids more or less definitely branched off from the monkey line.  

But the point is that in this passage you collapsed into insensibility, conflating apples to orangutans & that whole unrelated group-really-not-a-group to two things you named earlier & non-parenthetically as also being in a group when they are not. 

So your criticism is completely unfounded & so utterly flawed. 

Let’s finish by going to what the President was talking about, which is essentially asserting that his faith INFORMS his approach to policy issues. He was quite specific in terms of what he meant by his ‘faith’; he clearly meant, he actually POINTED to, principles bearing on human interaction. That is, he said he rooted his APPROACH to policy issues in those principles (which are obviously, by definition, broader than precise conditions, technologies & implications of technologies). What YOU did is refuse to engage those principles, but go right to conditions & technologies, assuming we other readers would simply grant the false equivalencies. Well, I don’t grant them. 

I happen to think that what you were really up to in your comment was aiming to disparage the President, accusing him of being disingenuous in his assertion of bible scripture-based Christian faith by asserting his line of reasoning was somehow ‘obviously’ flawed, by your being able to casually throw about a few examples of how his ‘must’ be wrong because some of his policy positions fly in the face of specific provisions in the scriptures, and others are so culturally & technologically specific to our times & so distant in time from when the scriptures were written that they could not possibly have any relationship. I say that was sloppy, lazy, wrong & disingenuous of YOU, not him.

You asked for it – you got it. 

Government is of God.

That’s why I’ve taken to calling him the little lemon drop.  First noticed it the night of the SOTU and wondered if Elaine Chao may have left her makeup bag behind.  Anyway, his closeups have been pretty rough lately, now I prefer to just watch his ears flap with the sound muted.

Yes, you’re still a lying weasel.  Step 1 is recognizing it, Step 2 for you is to do something about it.

That was a myth perpetrated by someone in the ME that could not be substantiated.

Find out who spent it all and make them give it back.

Watch out.  Those voices you hear may not be God’s.

Obama has attended each National Prayer Breakfast held during his presidency:

http://news.yahoo.com/quick-obama-defends-policies-prayer-breakfast-095654558.html

Looks like it was not “Famous” enough…LOL you weasels.

“Every U.S. president since Dwight D. Eisenhower has participated in the annual event, including President Obama in 2009,[3] 2010,[4] and 2011.[5]”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Prayer_Breakfast

And now in 2012. You boys are pathetic.

SUch a flippin’ VICTIM…what about the PROSPERITY SERMONS the right wing gives all the time?  Oh is that CHRISTIAN but somehow when Obama does it it’s MUSLIM, no place for it? 

There are lots & lots of liberals & progressives who are Christians & have no difficulty reconciling their faith to the politics. 

For example, some here may remember Daniel & Phillip Berrigan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Berrigan 

The confluence between liberals & progressives on the one hand & atheists & agnostics on the other does at least SEEM strong, but I’m pretty sure that atheists, such as me, are distinctly in the minority even among libs – & my head certainly isn’t exploding. I happen to think one does not in fact need religious faith to accept the values that President Obama articulated at this morning’s prayer breakfast, & prayer serves no function for me – but I recognize it serves function for others, or at least so they say. The President’s particular set of religious beliefs are familiar to me – I grew up in a community where they predominated – so they don’t bother me in the least. I imagine they DO bother people of other religions though – but that’s a problem people of faith have with each other; my impression is that generally speaking faithies have an awful lot more intolerance for everyone who’s not squarely in their faith zone than atheists & agnostics have for faithies per se.

Matthew 6:1
“Be careful not to do your ‘acts of righteousness’ before men, to be
seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in
heaven.

Matthew 6:2
“So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as
the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by
men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full.

In Obama’s world, no truer words have ever been spoken!…lol

Luke 18:9-14
The Parable of the Pharisee and the Tax Collector 9 To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everyone else, Jesus told this parable: 10 “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11
The Pharisee stood by himself and prayed: ‘God, I thank you that I am
not like other people—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this
tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.’    13
“But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up
to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a
sinner.’    14
“I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified
before God. For all those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and
those who humble themselves will be exalted.”

 The ONLY ones using words like Muslim and/or Kenyan, are those on the left! Trying to incite others to respond. typical Alinsky tactic.

I grant you, a few far-right loons can’t let it go, but it is MSNBC, liberal media outlets and blogs, that just can’t let it go!

@ shogan83: adding *sigh to everything is a very effective tactic. You should keep doing that.

The whole issue w/ charity is that it comes from a person who CHOOSES to give to something/someone other than themselves. The government does not involve itself with charity because it TAKES from citizens to give to whoever it sees fit (the biggest voting blocs, usually). If you do not “give” to the government’s “charities”, you go to prison.

He’s forcing his interpretation on us when he ties his interpretation to the TAX CODE. We don’t get to choose not to pay taxes. 

 The Constitution guarantees the ‘right’ to pursuit happiness. It does NOT guarantee the success of ones ‘pursuit!’

Which means, no government or individual should stand in our way.

Indeed, I’d remembered the controversy but confused the event.  From Washington Times May 6, 2009:
“President Obama is distancing himself from the National Day of Prayer by nixing a formal early morning service and not attending a large Catholic prayer breakfast the next morning.All Mr. Obama will do for the National Day of Prayer, which is Thursday, is sign a proclamation honoring the day, which originated in 1952 when Congress set aside the first Thursday in May for the observance.”

Be careful of what?! Obama is the one claiming to be speaking on behalf of Jesus.

 Obama also railed against the $9 trillion in debt under Bush. Now, we stand at $15.5 trillion and rising by the second.

Are you so insanely dumb that you can’t read my post? I didn’t mention W. I’m not a fan of much of what he did.

But it doesn’t speak for Him.

 Where did you ever read that the government is anywhere in the bible as part of God’s teachings?

The bible also doesn’t say anything about tax-breaks for the rich, or guns for everyone, or human rights, or the constitution, or women’s rights, or the civil rights act etc. Sure, republicans are much more charitable if the have some spare breadcrumbs to share. It’s the attitude and the party of ‘me, myself and I’. No thanks.

I’m wondering when someone in the media will take notice and do some actual journalism to see why his skin tone looks so unhealthy.

Wasn’t he just in Hawaii for some sun and fun?

If anything his skin tone should have gotten a little darker, not yellower.

Debatable:
“In the BBC film, a former Palestinian foreign minister, Nabil Shaath, says that Mr Bush told a Palestinian delegation in 2003 that God spoke to him and said: “George, go and fight these terrorists in Afghanistan” and also “George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq”. 

However spokesman for Mr Bush, Scott McClellan, said the claims, to be broadcast in a TV documentary later this month, were “absurd”.

Yeah, the War on Christmas is not over yet!

Ha, a tea party joke … yeah that’s humor for the imbeciles

I live outside of Chicago and there have been rumors about his health bandied about for years.  I can’t remember the name of the disease he supposedly has, apparently he can still function with it if the rumers are true. 

When the paragraph detailing his clean bill of health was released after his first presidential physical, suspicions were rampant due to the lack of information released.

Don’t know if any of this is true, it has been the scuttle around here and for the record, it’s not coming out of the GOP.

You don’t seem to understand the concept. Liberals (and many Republicans) have no problem with someone professing and practicing their faith as part of their personal lives. A president could talk about what Buddha means to him or her, for all I care. But you impinge on the separation of church and state when you require public schools to have Christian prayers, for example, or when you direct government funding exclusively to one religious affiliation. None of that has really happened on a wide-scale so it’s not that big of an issue. Separation of church and state is meant to keep the government from forcing a single religion down your throat, not to prevent people from being religious.

No headline screeching for him to shut up and how dare he invoke scripture, even for his own purposes of reelection and even at a prayer breakfast.  Imagine the outrage if a republican had said it, but alas……hehimselftheone can get away with just about anything from an adoring liberal media..

i didn’t say they were…  the distinction i’m drawing is between those aforementioned values and coercion…  i’m sure even the president understands the difference, even though i doubt he’d acknowledge taxation as coercive… 

It does tell you to obey the law and then the 10 Commandments and Beatitudes go pretty far in counseling us.

President truly bi- partisan, he gave Democrats a gift by mentioning poor and taxes. Republicans he gave a little religion. How can anyone argue.

as a hack politician, sure, he’ll say the right things about god, family, values and all that bull crap…  but god didn’t give shiite to mitt, he earned his wealth…  but i guess if you believe we are all at god’s mercy as to how much he thinks each of deserves as an individual, then i suggest you direct your ire at him and stop being so generous with other people’s money…   

Sure – if it weren’t for the guy who disbanded the Osama Bin Laden search team.  The guy who said he wasn’t interested in Bin Laden or where he was.  The guy who re-directed forces away from Bin Laden in Tora Bora.  Yeah, if it weren’t for that guy…LOL, you crack me up.

March 2008: Bush stimulus $29 billion for Bear Stearns/JP Morgan Chase deal
May 2008: Bush stimulus $178 billion in tax rebate checks
July 2008: Bush stimulus $300 billion for distressed homeowners
July 2008: Bush stimulus $200 billion for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac
September 2008: Bush stimulus $50 billion to guarantee money market funds
September 2008: Bush stimulus $25 billion to Big 3 automakers
September-November 2008: Bush stimulus $150 billion to AIG
October 2008: Bush stimulus $700 billion to banks (TARP) 

Funny!

See post immediately above yours. I’m not defending Bush. Why do people here assume if I’m not a fan of Obama, I must be a fan of Bush? Nothing is that simple.

He even included you .. the outrage!

Romney: “I fired the entire workforce of dozens of companies and raided their pension funds because I like it.”
Can I get an AMEN ?

i see rrk still came up with nothin’…

just a sad little liar, he is. 

You were unfactual, incorrect and irrelevant the moment you tried to say what Obama thinks. You are not in his mind so you cannot say what he thinks. You can only say what you think, which you do not so the whole argument defeats the purpose of a debate in the first place.

…let Romney steal more money.

Hezikiah 35: 2 “Thou shalt give the fifteenth to thy Lord, Wes1212″

What ever happend to the lord only helping those who help themselves?

I don’t think he meant help themselves to someone elses wallet.

Yeah, why not have another tax break for The Rich instead.

My apologies and thank you for “Nothing is that simple” – if only the right wing comrades could agree to that.

Here a republican nominee, insinuating President Obama to be a Kenyan:

“What if [Obama] is so outside our comprehension, that only if you understand Kenyan, anti-colonial behavior, can you begin to piece together [his actions]?” Gingrich asks. “That is the most accurate, predictive model for his behavior.” 

This is main stream right wing talk.

Spare me the rhetoric and the semantics.

You’re going to have to dig that quote up for me Rio, because I can’t find anywhere he specifically cites information gained under the Bush Administration.

Thanks to two unfunded wars, tax breaks for the rich, medicare part D and generally nonsensical economic policies from the previous Republican administration. The current crop of Republican nominees seem to embrace exactly these ludicrous policies.

he doesnt want shared responsibility ,  he wants ENSLAVEMENT of over 50% of the country thus they will vote for him so they will get the freebies

I see from your post you do not believe in God. If you did, you would not call the things of God bull-crap. However, I misspoke. The way I phrased my reply was in churchspeak. In other words, that’s how church people put it. I should not have said or implied that God makes some people rich and others poor. He does not. We do not know where we came from, how long we are going to be here, and where we will go when we die. We have nothing to do with it. We don’t choose our parents, our looks, or our wealth. That is determined for us by something else.Some of us earn our wealth by hard work and others earn it by evil work. But, however we earn it, as human beings we are all dependent upon one another in some way. If you should fall upon hard times, other humans will be there to help you out. Likewise, if others need help, you should be there to help them. Put yourself in their place. Try to walk in the other persons shoes. That could be you someday. If I should see you bleeding by the side of the road, I would stop and help you out of human kindness and I would hope you would do the same for me. It is just common sense because you do not know who you may need in this world before you die.

Drug dealers like Big Pharma? I agree!

“Drugmakers, however, were singled out as prime beneficiaries – they repatriated more than $100 billion in offshore earnings, and kept an estimated $30 billion in tax savings. In fact, drugmakers accounted for six of the Top 10 tax holiday beneficiaries. Meanwhile, many of these same drugmakers laid off tens of thousands of workers. ”

p.s. this was under Bush

http://www.forbes.com/sites/edsilverman/2011/10/06/tax-holidays-big-pharma-and-big-job-cuts/ 

The Church asks for 10%, the Mafia 20%, how much is this government asking?! How about putting the question of how much is fare back on this criminal government. How about everyone pays, and no one pays more than 20%, except in time of declared war, or National emergency.

You don’t know scripture very well.

On homosexuality: Leviticus 18:22 — “Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.”

Leviticus 20:13 “If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.”

That seems like unambivalent guidance to me.

On abortion (though, I’ll admit this is the most figurative): Psalm 22:9-10 “Yet you brought me out of the womb; you made me trust in you, even at my mother’s breast. From birth I was cast on you; from my mother’s womb you have been my God.”

While I admit this is somewhat ambivalent, it clearly humanizes a child from the time it is in the womb. Probably the weakest one.

On cheeseburgers: Exodus 23:19. “Bring the best of the firstfruits of your soil to the house of the LORD your God. Do not cook a young goat in its mother’s milk.”

Jewish scholars have long interpreted this to not only apply to goats, but all animals. It’s this Biblical assertion that millions of Jews say separates meat and cheese, especially meat and cheese from the same animal.

On lobster bisque: Leviticus 11:9-11. “Of all the creatures living in the water of the seas and the streams you may eat any that have fins and scales. But all creatures in the seas or streams that do not have fins and scales—whether among all the swarming things or among all the other living creatures in the water—you are to regard as unclean. And since you are to regard them as unclean, you must not eat their meat; you must regard their carcasses as unclean.”

Sorry. No more shrimp cocktails for you. You can’t eat shrimp and you can’t eat lobster not being of new technologies, but rather because they are expressly deemed unclean by the Lord.

On transvestites (not transgendered or transsexuals or hermaphrodites, but people who cross-dress. Cross-dressing has nothing to do with the human genome. You’re an idiot.). Leviticus 22:5. “A woman must not wear men’s clothing, nor a man wear women’s clothing, for the LORD your God detests anyone who does this.”

This one is pretty clear, too. No genome talk required.

So, yeah. All of that has Biblical precedent. You should really read up on the Bible. And, if you think somehow Jesus magically erased these commandments or bits of unambiguous guidance, check out Matthew 5:17-18.

“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.”

It’s certainly not me who is being sloppy or lazy.

And for the record: I voted for Obama in 08, and I’ll vote for him again in 2012 considering this Republican field. I wasn’t trying to disparage him. I was pointing out that scripture and the Bible are stupid, and we shouldn’t letting them inform our policy decisions.

Your overreaction and complete and utter lack of scriptural knowledge are pretty incredible.

(*facepalm*)

The President can not coerce anyone. We are a nation of laws with a Constitution that spells out what we as a nation can and cannot do. Our Constitution says we are to provide for the general welfare. If I am not mistaken, general includes everyone. In order to do that, we collect taxes . The taxes pay for fresh water, clean air, good roads and other things the nation needs to survive. We all want that. We all pay for that. Some pay more, some pay less. We pay according to our income. It is our duty. Every man should do his part, be it big or little, to keep America #1.

And I realize my response ignores much of what you say. You’re basically arguing that the Bible, since it’s so antiquated, isn’t and cannot be relevant to our discussions today. I completely agree. I think it stinks. But, the assertions I made are in there, and 3 of 5 are explicit, another is based on thousands of years of Jewish practices, and the last (abortion) is much more of a gray area.

I think we should do away with all of them. The Bible is useless.

The sad fact is that raising taxes on the rich will very quickly become “shared sacrifice” for those of us at lower incomes:
-more wealth will leave the markets, leaving companies short of capital;
-more unemployment as capital-strapped companies lay off workers or go bust;
-more wealth fleeing to bonds and treasuries, the tax-exempt interest payments paid by–guess who?

Every tax levelled at the rich ends up doing its ultimate damage to the people it’s supposed to help.

Government began with God according to the Bible. Our laws came from the Judeo-Christian tradition of law. We are a nation of laws. Yet, all nations adhere to the basic biblical law, that is The Ten Commandments. In that sense, Government speaks for God. Of course man’s law is also part of our government and it does not speak for God.

Pardon? The Norwegian Nobel Committee does not stipulate any such requirements.

No problem. I appreciate the civility. It’s rare to find here.

We misunderestimated him!

No taxes for the rich!

I’m convinced – let’s subsidize Corporate America and their CEO’s. 
Oh wait, we are already doing this:  30 of the 280 Fortune 500 companies studied paid zero in federal income taxes or enjoyed tax rebates in 2008, 2009 and 2010.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/big-profits-zero-taxes-for-large-us-companies-2011-11-03 

 Although Bush didn’t quote the Bible when he used an Executive Order to start the “Faith Based Initiatives” it was as close as you could get. Considering the money went to many “Catholic” & “Protestant” Charities both Christian based. However I don’t ever remembering any of that money going for any Buddhist, Hindu or Muslim Charities. So I would thing Mediaite would have attacked him but Mediaite wasn’t founded until after Obama became President.

 You obviously haven’t the mental capacity to understand the the basic legal concept of intent .  You have to intend to lie in order for it to actually be a lie.   I think it is time to turn in your voter registration card.  That’s what you get when you register to vote.  You are a shining example of what went wrong with the Democrat party when you wouldn’t accept that Gore lost. 

Now you Democrats talk about Obama being ahead against Republicans in the polls.  Feel good now, Sisy, because we still have an Electoral College.  No that’s not where you didn’t get an education. 

Obama has a lead on the West Coast, New York and New England.  There are a lot of people there.  But he only leads the polls in 10 states.

Only 10 states are stupid enough to vote for Obama.

Bye Bye President Obama!

Has Sisyphus lost franchise?  No.  But maybe some day Sisyphus will get a job.

Why is it always a mistake to apologize to a stupid Democrat?

I don’t.  Because that never happened.  Liar.  

Ahhh!  Now you’re off the plan, onto “Denial.”  LOL.

Listen double Ts, you come onto this board throwing jello all over the place, waiting for something to stick.  Then when it doesn’t stick, you weasel out of it with some spineless ‘inadvertent lie’ excuse.  It’s the same tactic practiced over and over by pundits from Limbaugh to Hannity…you scumbags should learn to be men and stand behind your lies and own them.  Or at least spend two seconds looking up what you’re about to post to make sure you’re not posting a lie. 

Here’s a hint – if you like what you’re about to post so much that you feel it must be true (and don’t research it), odds are it’s not.  What it is, is a fallacy – an appeal to emotions you have and believe about Obama.  With hardly any evidence at all – ever.  It’s a typical symptom of Obama Derangement Syndrome.

 Exodus 20:17 “Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s house, thou shalt
not covet thy neighbour’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor
his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that [is] thy neighbour’s.”

No but the constitution starts:
“We the people in order to form a more perfect union.. ”

Lincoln’s Gettysburg address ends:
“..under God, shall have a new birth of freedom—and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.”

So the government is the people and Jesus said love thy neighbor.
Love the Lord your God with
all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is
the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love
your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these
two commandments.
Matthew 22:36-40He is NOT saying God told him to tax people, just we are all in it together, and government does what we cannot do for ourselves as individuals.

Those who claim are Christians, please follow these Bible scriptures:17 Give orders to those who are
rich in the present system of things not to be high-minded, and to rest their
hope, not on uncertain riches, but on God, who furnishes us all things richly
for our enjoyment; 18 to work at good, to be rich in
fine works, to be liberal, ready to
share, 19 safely treasuring up for themselves a
fine foundation for the future, in order that they may get a firm hold on the
real life. 1Tim 6:17,18.. 20 Thus we are avoiding having any man find fault with us in connection with this liberal contribution to be administered by us. 21 For we “make honest provision, not only in the sight of Jehovah, but also in the sight of men.”2Corinthian 8:20,21

Obamatron Zombies will soon be a thing of the past. Calling people scumbags is a very intelligent way of debating.  The worst president since Wilson.  Wilson caused WWII.  Obama could bring our country to its end.  He wants to tax the rich, which would only reduce our deficit by 8%.  He never mentions that 92% will be borrowed from China.  He sees no problem that each citizen will soon owe $50,000, just as long as his fat wife is well fed.  If she doesn’t eat DC could be in danger.

Liberal
-a word that describes a good Christian not only in name but in practice.

Seriously?!? “The Constitution guarantees the ‘right’ to pursuit happiness. It does NOT guarantee the success of ones ‘pursuit!’” That is the Declaration of Independence not the constitution. WOW…
Besides the preamble for the constitution is
“We the People  of the United States, in Order to form a more
perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility,
provide for the common defence, promote the GENERAL WELFARE,
and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity,
do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States
of America.”

Probably because the Constitution of the United States says “promote the general Welfare” and that government specialy the USA is given of God to care for the needy and has been doing so for a long time both domestic and foreign! 

Cindy
I just love the way you twisted and spun jk13′s comment. How very New Republican Tea Party of you to do so!

 Ahhh hahaha – making a sarcastic comment about my “scumbags” comment being “intelligent” while calling Michelle Obama “fat” is the funniest thing I’ve seen all day.  Nice try genius.

If Obama is a True Christian, then I am the Pope, and I’m not even Catholic!  For the first time in my sixty years, havíng served under Presidents Nixon thru Reagan, I have totally no confidence in or trust in the person who calls himself my President, B. Hussein Obama!  Lord, please give us a real American as our President, in November!  Amen.

 Still waiting Rio – I’m thinking Panetta did not say they used information from the Bush administration to “finish the job” because I can’t find this verbatim comment in a transcript anywhere.  But I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt…please let me know where I can find this – I would appreciate it.

 A mental giant like you likely has no idea what a scumbag is.  Since fat is a relative observation and, you don’t think the crooked fake eyelashed scarecrow is fat, you must be even fatter.

The wars were funded and the funding was voted on and porked up by Congress. 

 Everyone who paid taxes had their taxes lowered, and, they have since been signed into law again and are now the Obama tax cuts.

I was against Medicare Part D, the democrats were against it because they wanted more money spent on it.  Since then it has lowered the cost of drugs for seniors and hasn’t cost near what it was estimated to cost.

So, that 4-5 trillion Bush ran up in 8 years still can’t compete with what Obama would do in 8 as he’s already passed what money was spent during the prior admin.

definition of promote, please.

And Obama sweetened the Big Pharma pot even more… immediately!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LPUN-YHFcA

Brian Williams questioning Panetta about information gleaned using inhanced interrogation/waterboarding.

And, Bush did not disband the bin Laden unit, the CIA did.  The unit became a bit to crazy for the CIA’s delicate taste so they disbanded the unit and folded the agents into other areas not once giving up on the hunt for bin Laden.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/04/washington/04intel.html

What am I? Dictionary.com
Pick a definition
1. to help or encourage to exist or flourish; further: to promote world peace.
2. to advance in rank, dignity, position, etc. ( opposed to demote).
3. Education . to put ahead to the next higher stage or grade of a course or series of classes.
4. to aid in organizing (business undertakings).
5. to encourage the sales, acceptance, etc., of (a product), especially through advertising or other publicity.

Very well said!

So, Pablo, where’s the previous myth that President Obama is a secret Muslim and speaks only for Allah?  You guys moved on from that lie, now that President Obama has publicly revealed his devotion to his CHRISTIAN faith?

RWNJs are sooooo confused.

http://cdn.front.moveon.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/dear-republicans-youre-thinking-of-jesus.jpg

No where in the transcripts of this interview does Panetta say that they “used information from the previous administration to finish the job.”

Nice try…when you posted this I bet you didn’t think someone would check it, did you.

With regard to the CIA nonsense, are you saying the CIA is not under the control of the President?  And that Bush did not say he was interested in Bin Laden?  LOLOLOL.