All those young whippersnappers.  They’re on the dope, I tell ya!

We only need safe drugs like prozac, klonipin, alcohol and tobacco to deal with anxiety…

Anti drugs policies are there for a reason …. just sayin’

I’m curious, does anyone here actually believe it should be a crime to use drugs to get high? 

Yo.
Bill.
Leave the weed alone mofo.

Go back to shouting at people for no reason.

Don’t f$%& with the weed, Bill….or else we’ll be like…..what?…..whatever….cough….who the f$%& is Bill O’Reilly man?…..cough…..Fox News?….wtf?…..

Booze good.  Weed bad. 

Those damn crazy kids, I’m bill Oreilly and I know what good for America.

Like Przak or booze?

Some collectives in San Diego are very well run. With a wink and a nod some are protected by city politics. Others make 60  grand a day. The collectives near the college are just fun stops for night. The stream of kids going in and out is endless. Theirs no additional crime to speak of in and around any of the collectives. I think we had around fifty in the county.
Why Obama flip flopped on the enforcement isn’t as big a mystery as it seems. Anything he says always has an expiration date especially when he’s finished using a particular group.
Had enough yet ?

To make the pharmaceutical and alcohol companies rich.   To fill up public and private prison systems.  To help anti drug zealots get elected by declaring a war on drugs.  These are some of the reasons anti drug policies exist.  Since drug use has actually gone up since the drug war began, I don’t think anti drug policies are there to stop drug use.  If they are, then the anti drug policies must be seen as a failure.  Just ask Chris Christie a former federal prosecutor, who admitted that today. 

Not the act of getting high.  Who am I to tell somebody else what they can or cannot do?  If they get in the car and drive over the limit then they should be arrested.  If they are just getting high and not hurting anybody else, then go for it.  This is America, aren’t we supposed to be free to some extent. 

In 3-5 years or sooner, marijuana will be legal nationally for two reasons. It is a powerful and very safe for reducing physical pain, and helping with glaucoma and many other conditions. Despite the usual rightwing hypocrisy, the overwhelming amounts of tax dollars and profits being generated by marijuana right now, guarantees that the government and tobacco businesses will work out a way to legalize marijuana for any and all uses.Prohibiition didn’t work with alcohol and it certainly isn’t working with marijuana. Also, I know a few people who have had accidents and marijuana has helped the healing process enormously.

I wonder if OReilly was one those kind of guys in High School who sought out “Pot Heads” and smoking lounge guy’s, just to beat them up? 

Of course a six pack before, provided the courage, that and a 2 to 1 ratio of Jocks and smokers?

I wonder if that same kind of thing happened to Harris and Klebold in Colorado?  Some things just don’t change…

Purveyor

great more brain dead idiots

You mean like Bill O’s fans?

Bill’s looking out for us again!

i mean like Obama voters

Marijuana should not be treated any different than wine in society. Adult activity is far better regulated that way than prohibition.

Addendum:

I watch O’Reilly and am a fan, BUT, Bill does have his idiosyncrasies.  Bill is a prude, yet, he flirts with the pretty girls that are on his show.

Moreover, if Bill doesn’t understand a concept, that’s it, you are wrong and he’ll not tolerate dissent.  Legalization of Marijuana is case in point.  Smoking pot is unsavory to Bill, ergo, it must be for everyone else.  Sounds kind of like many Liberal issues?  Ouch!

Purveyor 

Watch the recent documentary “Reefer Madness” to understand the risks, man.

Great no logical response. 

Billi-O suffers from being an idiot. He should get a medical marijuana card.
If he smoked some.He might mello out and could only make more sense then he does now.
I wonder if Bill-O drinks alcohol? Which is a more harmful and abused drug.

Yeah ,But you know this war on drugs it’s funded by the Tobacco and Alcohol Commissions 
It’s not what drugs you’re strung out on they care about as much as whose !

Liberals are usually more open minded.
That’s what being a liberal is all about Charlie Brown.

A cult classic! One of my favorite movies when I’m stoned!

Such a debate is ridiculous. All drugs should be made legal, once and for all. Prohibition of drugs is ONLY a tool for selling huge quantity of bad quality drugs, at high non taxed prices, to as much kids as possible. Prohibition leads also to corruption, black markets and grey money: it gives the power to the bandits. Prohibition transforms the planet into a big ‘Chicago’. We can already see the signs of this. Legalize and regulate, and you will see the disappearance of the “drug problem”, and of many other problems as well. 

For your entertainment – a nice little obscure ditty that I doubt most have ever heard.  Get past the first 35 seconds and you will be rewarded !!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pYiod30RQc&feature=related

Ppppfffftt !!!!!!!!

My parents never drink.  I always thought their marriage wouldn’t be so rotten if they did.

It is worth watching.

Ad if you happen to have some marijuana (for medicinal purposes, of course), it is hilarious.

This is all so damned dumb.Pot should be legalized and unrestricted beyond the same restrictions as alcohol.

No arguement against pot holds up when compared to aspects of alcohol and tobacco.Legalization would allow funds be directed to drug efforts far more important and worthy.

Bill is way behind the curve here,as are many others.

Still,it doesn’t help the case when the people who are pro pot look like refugess from a 60′s commune,the love child of Willie Nelson and some flower child.

Yes, Bill anyone should be able to by marijuana legally , not just in the CA but in any state. 

Bill is no fool. He knows his people do not like weed. And he gets ratings by appealing to what they want to hear. But I suspect that on a personal level, Bill is probably more libertarian than he lets on. Its crazy to make half the college students in America criminals, while plowing in like 30 billion a year fighting it, when we could be regulating it like alcohol and generating a valid industry, jobs and tax base.

Any, and all “conservatives”.

We should ask that Mackris lady if she knows whether or not O’Douchebag drinks or not. I mean, he HAD to be drunk way back when…

It is so nice!

here’s one for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eccz7D0QK0

Wow, something the Republicains and Democrats can agree on at this site!
It is nice to agree sometimes .
Doncha think?  :)

I know a lot of Replublicans that watch Bill-O. Almost all of them some weed. I think that’s why they believe in what he says.

Bill’s real steady folk are older than that.

“Liberals?”  

The people who invented and propagated “politically correct,” PC?   Surely you jest?  Ouch! 

Contemporary “Liberals,” have become the most self righteous, anal retentive, moralizing and flat out ignorant collection of “useful idiots,” they’d even scare Lenin!  Moreover, today’s Liberal is so easily led by their own personal self indulgences, they forget what they are complaining about in the first place…other peoples’s foibles, desires and frailties!

Simply put: the Liberal mantra is… “be reasonable, do it my way.”  Note: a “reasonable Liberal” is an oxymoron.  (Remember OWS? LOL)

Purveyor

Ahh Bill…..   There you go again.  Exercising your constitutional right to be an idiot.  Just as with that stupid low life human garbage, dry alcoholic, mormon cultist, idiot Glenn Beck…..you also have no personal integrity Bill.  Just keep peddling your lies and bullshit on Fox fake news because there is a huge segment of the US population who are actually dumb enough to believe the crap that comes out of your big mouth.

Abrams (Are you CosmosDan?)  Again you showed no hair on your behind.  You need to show Dennis Miller clips

The Dennis Miller segment following this clip was great.  Miller started out by referring to one of these Pot clinic guys as “Tonto”. 

Then Miller went on to describe our friend Barney Frank in the funniest terms ever. “Barney is not a nice man.” Abrams, you make a lot of money and likely didn’t have a Lie Mortgage. Being Jewish you likely don’t want to offend your brother Barney. You might like Barney.  I’m sure someone does.  I understand.  But Mediaite needs to be Fair and Balanced.  Don’t you think so?

Just sayin’ what?

My comment which referred to Harris and Klebold is something that I believe was NEVER properly addressed by Colorado Schools.  Their victims certainly did not deserve their fate, BUT, that High School helped create those two young men?

(I used to live right near that Hugh School for a few months.)

Purveyor

Ah, yes.  Did you see Barney getting red in the face when he was called a coward and liar?

Ok. Let’s start with something simple. Let’s say recycling. Is that a liberal idea or a conseravtive one?

Remember OWS?……..Game not over!. I believe its better than an armed revolution.

“I cannot teach you violence, as I do not myself believe
in it. I can only teach you not to bow your heads before any one even at the
cost of your life.”

“I object to violence because when it appears to do
good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent.”

“I want freedom for the full expression of my
personality.”

-Mahatma Gandhi

Remember him?

Did you fart?

Was Ghandi a liberal or a conservative?

Depends if the “recycling” is mandated by law with harsh penalties?  So too with cigarettes, helmet laws, seat belt laws, the “CONDOM POLICE?”  Christmas Trees that have to be called “Holiday Trees!”  Liberals have become a modern day inquisition.

“Beware when pursuing the monster, lest he become you”   Fritz Nietzsche

The anti pollution initiatives of the 1960s, have turned into the very monster we once pursued?I recycle because I find it the proper thing to do, however, mandated recycling and “processing” for small businesses has caused a hardship on their ability to stay in business.If you don’t like smoke in a bar, then find a bar that the owner doesn’t allow smoking.  WHAT?  Can’t find one?  That should tell you something, build your own bar, or, mind your own business!  But, Liberals just seem to know what is right for everybody…LOL    (actually, it ain’t funny)!Purveyor

Neither

You are leaving context out of the equation, hence you are making a gross oversimplification.

“Peace in our time”  Neville Chamberlin.

How did a Ghandian philosophy work for Sir Neville?

Great topic!

I can’t stay with it now, but I’ll try to back on line tonight.  

If you smell flowers…then yes !!

Ok ,recycling is reusing something. No waste. Maybe just reusing something like a old window for a shed or for a cold frame. That would save money. Conservative? I would say so. But liberal too in being open minding to the idea of recycling. I am not forced to recycle because the community here pays to remove trash by weight. We pay by the pound (ton) to get rid of our trash. So recycling is a good idea and benefits everyone .You are not forced to recycle except for dangerous waste(OMG communist pigs) We do have a limit on how much we can throw out. You have to pay extra. Some people would say this is part of a liberal agenda.Too many rules? In the old days we would burn are own trash.
Your thoughts?

yup……classic O’reilly B.S.

With the stories about lufas and falafals he should probably just look out for himself.

Although I really don’t want to wish Cancer on Bill-O…I just wonder what he would think about it, if he needed to smoke some to help reduce his discomfort from Chemo. Or should he just want to puke his guts out for days on end.

Could we perhaps see what would happen if Bill-O’s Mother or Grandmother had to have Chemo. Would he rather she puke her guts out for hours, or take a few tokes of MJ, and be able to keep her food down and be able to eat regularly.

I gotta’ tell ya’ 12Volt, although I disagree with 99% of your comments, as you probably do mine, I think we would be friends if we were neighbors. I wouldn’t hesitate to invite you and Mrs. 12Volt over for a cookout, cards, etc…we just wouldn’t talk politics !!

With that said…let’s get back to insulting each other !!

Perhaps if a few geniuses from the Democrat party had enough brains to recognize that if you give mortgages to people with no jobs there might be potential for default. It’s funny.  Any idiot can see that.  Not, however, Democrat idiots.  They are a special breed of idiot.

Fanny and Freddie were set up to provide a place for Democrats to go after leaving public office. One of Barney’s lovers worked  there.  They can make a lot more money and still have no responsibility,   

Barney’s friend used the names Fannie and Freddie as code messages for his gay escort service.  You could choose your date based on your preferences, either FANNIE or FREDDIE.

Late in Bush I’s first year, 1989, he revealed his anti-drug policy, a 5 billion dollar a year effort. The Democrats responded by saying that it should be 7 billion a year,
I’m thinking, 5 billion, 7 billion, it seems that not only are drugs a big business, but apparently, so is fighting drugs.

So out of nowhere, you’re trying to blame Democrats for the mortgage mess.
Don’t even.

What planet have you been living on stevie?  Since you obviously are a Democrat I won’t waste my time trying to explain it.  You wouldn’t understand.  If you clowns spent some time studying instead of blindly slandering we might have more productive conversations.

Here’s a little primer.  Democrats believe that if everyone owned a house everyone would be responsible and not abandon their children.  So they make loans available guaranteed by Fannie and Freddie, no proof of employment, no down payment.  In 2003 Bush (your evil nemesis) wanted to introduce legislation to reform Fannie and Freddie, but Barney made sure it didn’t get started.  He said,”The will be no problem, Fannie and Freddie are sound.”  Fannie and Freddie then began selling bundled mortgages in the form of mortgage backed securities, very safe investments, except when millions of idiots with houses and no jobs started defaulting, investments in these bonds all over the world started tanking.

Yes, it was Democrats that caused your savings to go away. Don’t even!

VOLT,

The word “COMMUNITY,” who is this “community”? Community is etymologically associated with “communism? The Capitalist (Conservative) would prefer a private business entity, do the recycling, NOT, the typically inefficient Government. (Ask John Stossel of FOX Business News)

As for “communist pigs,” when the Iron Curtain came down we saw pollution really looked like. Also, just go across the border to Mexico, or, even farther South to the Rain Forrest.

VOLT, you and I are on the same side here. The problem is I want Government to set the standards and a private company do the work, thus creating AMERICAN jobs. Up to a point, this scenario has been the engine that built America. Unfortunately, the multinationals and Bernie Madoff’s of today and “Robber Barron’s of the past, seem to be threshold where greed overcomes Nationalism and ethics? Hence, my theory looks bad to you?

Still, As a solution, I’d prefer to focus on the problem, rather than “throw out the baby with the bath water,” so to speak? The “Conservative” not only wants to maintain Capitalism, but, give such greater opportunity, as our manufacturing engine used to have, sans the “warts” of course. (with responsible policing and regulation, NOT, over-regulation))

The contemporary Liberal wants to give more power and responsibility to Government, which is called “Socialism.” Re-read my previous letter, the modern Liberal failing is the creation of politically correct, over regulation. Conversely, the modern Conservative “failing” has been the creation of Bernie Madoff and Dennis Kozlowsky of TYCO.

On balance, I’ll stick with the Nation created by my fore fathers: a Mercantilist, Capitalistic, inventive society that gave the world the modern incarnation of Demos.

Jess

“War is an ugly thing but not the most ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.”

John Stuart MIll

VOLT,
Mill, was/is, one the more influential philosopher’s of my life. His “Essay On Liberty,” is always within easy reach, in my studio. Mill was a Libertarian, a women’s rights and suffrage proponent and he was against prohibition. I suspect Mill would find PC an offensive concept?

Moreover, Mill’s and Ghandi’s philosophy are NOT really at odds. In fact, I suggest that Ghandi was NOT a pacifist, rather, he was a warrior! People that hide under a blanket of “false pacifism,” are cowards?

After watching Faux news(?) I got my card. It cures depression.

tommy boy
” I won’t waste my time trying to explain it.”

Yet, you did. Then failed.
No Democrat told anyone to make bad loans, nor to package them and sell them to investors. Then bet against them and crash the economy. 
That was due to a complete lack of oversight and regulation.
Under Bush.
Spare me you wrong-wing crapola.

He loves Hip Hop too. Its so funny that whenever he is “outraged” by something in Hip Hop he is so well informed and so intuitive. I honestly think Bill O’Reilly on TV is almost 100% character, in real life he is a hard partying rap music listening irish man. 

 dfs4, you are correct! There is a reason…

And that reason is to protect the synthetic chemical industry. The cotton industry. The Rx industry drug profits. Drugs “whose side affects may include…” up your death.

Cannabis was outlawed at the behest of WR Hurst who had in Harry Anslinger a political sock puppet. Hurst had lots of $$ invested in timber lands & the then fledgling DuPont synthetic chemical company.

Hurst was after non psychoactive hemp as it posed a vastly superior source of all kinds of products.Including paper Hurst would get from his timber stands.  Henry Ford made a car out of  hemp & fueled it with bio fuel made from hemp seed oil. Ole Hurst had a big problem in his quest to out law hemp. There was no good reason not to grow it. It wouldn’t get ya high.

So Hurst decided to link the smoking ‘get high’ cannabis to industrial hemp. Because they look exactly alike, he was able to con the law makers & general public into thinking hemp was the same as cannabis.

Then WR went on his Reefer Madness binge. The rest is history the USA should be very ashamed of, given all the deaths caused by prohibition. The war on drugs is a cover for a major attack on the Bill Of Rights.

Look up the history of cannabis prohibition. You will find in the 1st 13 it was often illegal NOT to grow hemp. Lots of folks back then used hemp & smoking cannabis. Mercy! Hemp & cannabis have been in use for 1000′s of years. No big problems.

Look for Ford’s hemp car at YouTube. Also search out the history of cannabis prohibition & the war on [some] drugs. You will learn a lot.

Not attacking or mocking. Educating. Played a bit at 1st but all in fun. No diss ment.

SamFox

 Ben cough, cough…:-) Later before bed. To early now. :-)

Any body watch much Fox ‘News’ or their business channel? Ever notice how many Rx drugs they push?

Just askin..:-)

Bill O’Blowhard has a $ interest in keeping some drugs illegal. Ad money. It’s almost always about the $$.

There in NO WAY [some] drug prohibition is about safety. If you look you will find that LEGAL synthetic Rx concoctions kill more people every year than the few the Rx industry doesn’t control. So does alcohol. So it is NOT about safety. It’s about having a corner on the market & keeping it free from competition. 

Just sayin…:-)

SamFox

 purveyor1, can I call you perv for short? :-) Just funnin boss.  Like your post.

Shouldn’t that be “Bill has his idiotosyncrasies”? :-)

I have not seen much Fox ‘News’ since the fools got rid of a champion of the Constitution, Judge Napolitano. I guess it doesn’t pay to push for Ron Paul at Fox.

I think you nay be on the something. Pat Buchanan should go to Fox & take Bills place & Billo O’Brillo should go to MSNBC to replace Pat. That way the conserve & lib would be at the right outfits.

SamFox

 12 volt, yeah, I remember him. We went to diff schools together. :-)

Mr. Gandhi is one of Ron Paul’s heroes. So are Mr. MLK & Rosa Parks.

SamFox

 Hey RoyalCourt! Here ya go! Any one remember Steppenwolf?  :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtRwa2mlH0k

Boy, does this one bring back memories! :-)

SamFox

 Royal & 12v, good songs. Yours Royal reminds me of the Lovin Spoonful & Country Joe McDonald.

12v, yours reminds me of Bob Dylan. Both good songs & all good groups. Here is another Steppenwolf classic. I dedicate it to the Rx drug pushers, the real killers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOeAejt4iIE&feature=fvst

Have a good one!!

SamFox

Gee Sam,

This thread was November 30th  LOL.  I think this has to be  a record for a late response.

I have a socio-legal theory I have been promoting called “neutral principle”.  It’s about a consistent application of principle and above all, PROCESS.

I agree, Bill  has his “idiotsyncracies,” but, so too can he nail an issue.  I just wish he’d be more principled and consistent.

Thank you, Purveyor

SAM,

“Boss,” that word is commonly used in the South.  I first heard it used down here on the Gulf Coast, where abouts are you?

I b in da West. I got ‘boss’ from Paul Newman in Cool Hand Luke. Great flick.

SamFox

Of course! “Cool Hand Luke.” (God speed Paul) They still have prison work crews working as road crews, down here.  But, Arizona and Sheriff Joe, is the to be.  Ouch!

When one is surfing, so to speak, all we are given is an avatar, a name and the conversation.  I play a game with myself analyzing only the paucity of information given.
I guess in this case, I am partially correct?  

Before moving to the South in 09, I spent 23 years in Colorado.  I lived Colorado in all its glory, skiing, Jeeps, motorcycles, and pretty women etc.

Anyway, amigo, good to make your acquaintance.

Vaya con Dios,       (stay in touch, also)

Naw, pervayor, I set the record on another thread.:-)  I saw this one in my inbox as I was deleting messages. Saw it was Silly Billy spouting off about cannabis & couldn’t resist getting in a word or 10.

You are welcome, by the way. Yeah, Bill does have a good moment now & again. I wish he’d be those things to. 

I had a pet peeve with Billy Boy for a while because he doesn’t do honest reasearch on the subject of cannabis & hemp. And he does not present an honest take on the subject either, probalby due to close mindedness which leads to lack of knowledge & understanding.

I think it’s because of , in part any way, ad $$ from Rx drug lords. The rest, for now, I have to chalk up to willful ignorance.

I was also already unhappy with Chilly Billy because he lies about Ron Paul’s foreign policy. He says snarky things about it & Ron, but does not show why. He has never said “OK. This is Ron Paul’s FP in Ron’s own words. Here is where it’s bad…”. Instead he does what a lot of people do who don’t do the looking. He makes uninformed comments that reflect fringe media ‘analysis’ rather than Ron’s actual FP.

I won’t watch much Fox ‘News’ since they kicked off Da Judge. So I will be way behind on B O’Rs shenanigans. :-)

I still catch Stossel though & sometimes Dobbs & Cavuto.

Oh yeah, I knew this site had replies, so I thought I’d wake up people who have posted. :-)

Hey boss, didja catch the linked tunes below by Royal & 12volt? I added a couple by Steppenwolf.

SamFox

Hiya boss. Hada come up here, no ‘reply’ link under yer last post. Up here cause I had to find a post of yours that had the reply.

I b in AZ. Been here almost all my days. Spent a yr in Mexifornia, back when it was still California, in Fresno. My mom worked at the Blackstone Bowling Ally then. . Also about a year in Roswell, NM & about 7 mo near West Palins MO, in a spot called Trask. We lived in an old converted school house in Trask.

Good to meet ya as well. I am on a few spots for political issues, mainl;y Ron Paul. We just gotta get the Constitution back. Also I post for the re-legalization of cannabis & industrial hemp.

I use cannabis for a back disease. The 60′s are history. I learned a lot. One important lesson, beware of drugs. I don’t worry about cannabis because it won’t hurt me. I don’t sit around getting medicated all day, like in the 60′s. I very seldom use it in the day. I use it for sleep as I have insomnia.

Also helps relax my neck so I can exercise it pain free more than if I had no pain med. I am very wary of Rx stuff. I have never been addicted to any thing, I wanna keep it that way. I guess you could say I am a 60′s survivor.

SamFox

 

Ha  HA HA HA 

Retnug, your point is very well taken, and endorsed….LOL.  I can see the commercials now-
beautiful nubile young woman promoting the benefits of pot, maybe standing beside a sporty vehicle, clad in less…

Now this picture appeals to my senses (pun intended), rather than the harsh used up looks
of the 60′s crowd, that have over indulged in more than just pot.

This thread will be a joy for it’s duration, no?

12Volt1, I forgot about John Prine: Illegal Smiles, good music.

Thanks

A classic, I still have and do play the album…..  :-)