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Matthews: Sarah Palin Uneducated, Interviews Like She’s “Selling Makeup Foundations”

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In case you didn’t think enough people were talking about Sarah Palin, earlier today Chris Matthews weighed in. He heavily criticized Palin’s upcoming Hannity appearance…and even had help from Republican strategist guest Todd Harris.

Matthews dismissed the appearance as an “infomercial” and “like…selling makeup foundations.” And while Harris said he had no problem with going on Hannity, he does have a problem with Palin not trying harder to broaden her audience, saying that “she’s missing a real opportunity if that’s all she does.” Matthews even predicted how part of the interview will go:

“She’ll come up with some contortion of how she used ["blood libel"], and Sean will say, “I get it now” or some ridiculous thing.”

Matthews’ other guest, Democratic consultant Steve McMahon, was even less sympathetic to Palin’s cause, lambasting her for “claim[ing] to be the victim” after coming under fire for the now-infamous crosshairs map. Matthews piled on some more, saying he believes it’s “an assumption most people make” that Palin isn’t well-educated, going so far as to say that “there’s a lot of well-educated people who live in the country…the fact is, she doesn’t want to be one of them.”

Harris eventually veered off in a slightly different direction, saying that while he doesn’t necessarily always understand what Palin is doing or why she’s doing it, that it was uncalled for to act like she was somehow culpable in the tragedy in Arizona. Matthews and McMahon both took exception to this, as they didn’t believe a significant number of people were blaming Palin. frankly, it almost seemed as if Harris brought it up to induce some disagreement, because before he said that, the three were mostly in agreement that if Palin has higher political aspirations, she needs to change her strategy. Video of the segment below.

[h/t Breitbart.tv]

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  • Nacho

    HA!

  • WildMan

    Chrissy is so damn jealous of and obsessed with Sarah that it has become more than funny. It is just damn plain weird. Maybe Chrissy wishes he could get the viewership of anyone over at FOX News. Trouble is goofy dunderhead Chrissy is the second (2nd) lowest rated idiotic talking head over on PMSnbc. That network has really become weird.

  • WildMan

    Yo Joe…your career was over a long time ago. You have the worst talking head show on little ol’ PMSnbc. In fact you have numbers akin to Parker & Spitzer over on CNN.

    BTW…wash that damn black fleece sweater/sweatjacket/???. I don’t know how Meka can stand sitting next to you.

    Oh and Joe, get over yourself. You are not the smartest person in the Universe. Not even in our Galaxy. Not even in our Solar System. Not even on planet Earth. Not even in the US or New York City. Hell, not even at your table. Gawd, you are so damn boring and obnoxious, Joe!!!!!!

  • WildMan

    WOW Mediate messed up on that one. A little glitch in their giddyup!

  • Nacho

    I agree Mathews is being ridiculous.

    But I followed were the link came from, [h/t Breitbart.tv] and the comments from those angry hateful nuts make it so totally worth it.

  • SmartAlec

    Is this another example of the Leftstream media’s claim that Sarah Palin won’t go away and keeps “putting herself out there”.
    While Tingles, Scarborough, Olbercrank, Madcow, Schultz, etc keep popping off and dreaming of her (yes, Maddow too) Sarah is just sitting up in Alaska, hunting, fishing, tweeting, doing occasional interviews. Yeah, she just won’t get out of my life.
    And the left have the audacity to claim that Tea Party people and Beck watchers are sheep. The Hate-ism from the left just simply shuts down the portion of their brain that uses common sense.

  • Alz

    Do these liberals even know how silly and uncivil they are?

    I have abject contempt for Mathews. He’s an ignoranus: http://www.unwords.com/unword/ignoranus.html

    I saw this in RESPONSE to his hate.

  • mcf1757

    Chris Matthews is spot on!!

  • Alz

    I mean “I SAY this in RESPONSE to his hate.”

  • the real john t

    SmartAlec said:
    Sarah is just sitting up in Alaska, hunting, fishing, tweeting, doing occasional interviews. Yeah, she just won’t get out of my life.

    OH! I guess she wasn’t the one that came out with an ignorant 8min speech claiming to be the victim on the same day they were having a memorial for the victims in Tuscon. Even some Republicans said that was a stupid move.

  • Alz

    Looks like Mediaite is going through the rounds. It will be time for Maddow next. Then Bill Behar, Joy Maher, and then back to Stewart.

  • Alz

    WildMan said:
    Chrissy is so damn jealous of and obsessed with Sarah that it has become more than funny. It is just damn plain weird. Maybe Chrissy wishes he could get the viewership of anyone over at FOX News. Trouble is goofy dunderhead Chrissy is the second (2nd) lowest rated idiotic talking head over on PMSnbc. That network has really become weird.

    They certainly are jealous of her. Obsesses too. I’ll bet Mathews has a Palin screen saver.

    It’s because Palin never went through the liberal victimhood system – and they hate it.

  • SuperChuñdy

    WildMan said:
    Yo Joe…your career was over a long time ago. You have the worst talking head show on little ol’ PMSnbc. In fact you have numbers akin to Parker & Spitzer over on CNN.

    BTW…wash that damn black fleece sweater/sweatjacket/???. I don’t know how Meka can stand sitting next to you.

    Who’s Joe? Or, for that matter, “Meka”?

  • Nacho

    SmartAlec said:
    Is this another example of the Leftstream media’s claim that Sarah Palin won’t go away and keeps “putting herself out there”.
    While Tingles, Scarborough, Olbercrank, Madcow, Schultz, etc keep popping off and dreaming of her (yes, Maddow too) Sarah is just sitting up in Alaska, hunting, fishing, tweeting, doing occasional interviews. Yeah, she just won’t get out of my life.
    And the left have the audacity to claim that Tea Party people and Beck watchers are sheep. The Hate-ism from the left just simply shuts down the portion of their brain that uses common sense.

    The funny thing is, ALOT of people claim they just like Palin because she “drives the Libs loony!” It really is Palin’s best asset and she has gotten rich manipulating the media by using that angle.

    I guess everything comes at a cost, huh?

  • SuperChuñdy

    SmartAlec said:
    While Tingles, Scarborough, Olbercrank, Madcow, Schultz, etc keep popping off and dreaming of her (yes, Maddow too) Sarah is just sitting up in Alaska, hunting, fishing, tweeting, doing occasional interviews. Yeah, she just won’t get out of my life.

    Madcow! Instant classic! Olbercrank! (I though Olberführer was still in vogue.)

    What’s wrong? You couldn’t come up with a “clever” nickname for Scarborough or Schultz? Or you just haven’t seen any of the other commenters come up with a one good enough to steal?

  • the real john t

    Liberals or the “liberal media” doesn’t put Palin in the news. Palin puts herself in the news with her ignorant rants.

  • Nacho

    Alz said:
    Looks like Mediaite is going through the rounds. It will be time for Maddow next. Then Bill Behar, Joy Maher, and then back to Stewart.

    They got the link from Breitbart.tv. doesn’t that make it alright?

  • SuperChuñdy

    I disagree with Mathews; the University of Idaho is just as good–no, better–than Harvard! Who wouldn’t be proud to have sent their kid their to study(wait for it) journalism!

    This is why I didn’t blame her for not knowing the history of the word blood libel; you can’t expect members of the wannabe lamestream media to know anything. Go Vandal!

  • PoliticalPAW

    Question for Matthews & McMahon…is Ed Schultz “well-educated”?

    While slandering Speaker Boehner http://tinyurl.com/4kb2chu with propaganda that was debunked by left wing TPM http://tpm.ly/hVsOmG AND by his own @msnbc network @chrismatthewsHB 30 minutes before his show (@2:01) http://tinyurl.com/6akdpk2, the “well-educated” Ed Schultz actually says “abdiGATE”…NOT ONCE, BUT FREAKIN TWICE (@2:33 @3:39) http://tinyurl.com/4kb2chu Now, Schultz may have been able to get away with the “poor annunciation” defense for 1 “abdiGATE”, but NOT 2 identical “abdiGATES” that were over 1 minute apart.

    Incidentally, Cenk Uygur “thoroughly enjoys” http://tinyurl.com/39k57hq ripping Palin and implicitly his @edshow “dumb” boss for “abdiGATEs”.

    Will Matthews & McMahon dismantle their “well-educated” co-worker & orator Ed Schultz on Monday?

  • SmartAlec

    the real john t said:
    OH! I guess she wasn’t the one that came out with an ignorant 8min speech claiming to be the victim on the same day they were having a memorial for the victims in Tuscon. Even some Republicans said that was a stupid move.

    Wouldn’t you come out and respond if you were were falsely accused of inciting murder?

  • Color Me Badd

    I just got a major thrill up my leg, watching Chris Matthews. He is so right.

  • SmartAlec

    SuperChuñdy said:
    Madcow! Instant classic! Olbercrank! (I though Olberführer was still in vogue.) What’s wrong? You couldn’t come up with a “clever” nickname for Scarborough or Schultz? Or you just haven’t seen any of the other commenters come up with a one good enough to steal?

    Insulted by Stupid Chumpy!! I think I’ll just crawl into the corner and cry.

  • ImNotBlue

    Really John? So anytime she posts on her Facebook page, and “the media” devotes time to it… that’s actually her thrusting herself on the public?

    WOW! I wonder, with such a low standard, is there anything she could do which wouldnt cause the left to go bananas?

    Let me answer that… no. Remember before she posted the video (which you so predictably distain) what the left-wing talking point was? “Where is she? How come she hasn’t said anything yet? This means she knows she’s guilty!” So if she says nothing, she’s in the spotlight and attacked by the left… and when she does say something, well the same thing happens.

    For you guys, when it comes to Palin, it’s a lose-lose. No matter what she does, it’s bad, wrong, and worthy of media discussion.

  • SmartAlec

    You Leftys can say it all you want to, but thinking people with common sense, logic, and reasoning can clearly see that Palin doesn’t keep herself in the news, the members of the PDS club do. It’s Hate-ism straight up!!

    I’m so thankful that people like Tingles, Super Chumpy, and Union thug john T are only 20% of the population and sinking!! Sit on that and spin!!

  • SmartAlec

    Alz said:
    Looks like Mediaite is going through the rounds. It will be time for Maddow next. Then Bill Behar, Joy Maher, and then back to Stewart.

    Looks like they’re gonna’ start throwing in a Howard Stern too.

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    John says:

    Liberals or the “liberal media” doesn’t put Palin in the news.

    John, if you are going to call someone stupid, please make sure you use proper English to do it. Liberals or the “liberal media” DON’T, not doesn’t.

    Happy to help!!

  • Alz

    the real john t said:
    Liberals or the “liberal media” doesn’t put Palin in the news. Palin puts herself in the news with her ignorant rants.

    Sorry, the liberals are OBSESSED with her. They bring her into all sorts of stories.- like the Tucson murders. They are deranged.

  • SmartAlec

    When most people see or hear someone that they think are unintelligent or inciting murderous violence, they just frown, shrug, maybe use a little profanity, and then they move on.
    When Tingles and the crew see or hear Palin, their eyes light up, their ears perk up, and everything around them stops while they allow their Hate-ism to take over. Pitiful. It’s Hate-ism straight up!! h/t to J Garafolo.

  • MediaiteCensorsSux

    Like I’ve said before, not “hardball” but “hard-On” Chris for Palin!

  • NeoKong

    Matthews knows he will never be man enough for a woman like Sarah Palin and it kills him inside.
    He knows he will never be man enough for a woman like Olbermann and it kills him inside.
    That’s why he hates all women and hates himself.
    Also he has a small penis and it makes him angry.
    His penis is almost as small as his audience.
    Pretty small.

  • SmartAlec

    Nacho said:
    The funny thing is, ALOT of people claim they just like Palin because she “drives the Libs loony!” It really is Palin’s best asset and she has gotten rich manipulating the media by using that angle. I guess everything comes at a cost, huh?

    Not talking about why people like her, we’re talking about why people hate her. Liking someone is easy, Hating someone takes a lot of work. Why do people put so much time and effort into hating her?? It’s Hate-ism straight up!

    The amount of hate directed at her is a great motivator to like and defend her. I also defended Hillary Clinton when she was unfairly attacked during the primary. If it matters…in a Hillary vs. Palin race, I would vote for HC, or stay home.

  • the real john t

    SmartAlec said:
    Wouldn’t you come out and respond if you were were falsely accused of inciting murder?

    ImNotBlue said:
    WOW! I wonder, with such a low standard, is there anything she could do which wouldnt cause the left to go bananas?

    I guess the meaning of my comment flew right over your pointy little heads. And Michelle in UT/Seeing 2012, It’s so great to see the grammar police bitch on duty. Better proof read everything you write.

  • ImNotBlue

    @ John

    Now that doesn’t sound like the “new” more respectful left that Obama was calling for, now does it?

    And if we missed the point, why not correct us, instead of attempting to insult? Hmmm…?

  • Nacho

    SmartAlec said:
    Not talking about why people like her, we’re talking about why people hate her. Liking someone is easy, Hating someone takes a lot of work. Why do people put so much time and effort into hating her?? It’s Hate-ism straight up!

    The amount of hate directed at her is a great motivator to like and defend her. I also defended Hillary Clinton when she was unfairly attacked during the primary. If it matters…in a Hillary vs. Palin race, I would vote for HC, or stay home.

    Hate and fear sell. Just look at FoxNews and Rush.

  • noekk

    ImNotBlue said:
    Really John? So anytime she posts on her Facebook page, and “the media” devotes time to it… that’s actually her thrusting herself on the public?

    WOW! I wonder, with such a low standard, is there anything she could do which wouldnt cause the left to go bananas?

    Let me answer that… no. Remember before she posted the video (which you so predictably distain) what the left-wing talking point was? “Where is she? How come she hasn’t said anything yet? This means she knows she’s guilty!” So if she says nothing, she’s in the spotlight and attacked by the left… and when she does say something, well the same thing happens.

    For you guys, when it comes to Palin, it’s a lose-lose. No matter what she does, it’s bad, wrong, and worthy of media discussion.

    You haven’t seen nothin’ yet (wink). . 3.2…

  • lelele52

    just keep it up Matthews and you will make it to the bottom sounds like that is what you are shooting for

  • the real john t

    ImNotBlue said:
    And if we missed the point, why not correct us, instead of attempting to insult?

    Why was it necessary for her to come out with her video claiming to be a victim on the same day as a memorial was held for the true victims in the Tuscon shooting. Even Republicans have said the was bad timing on her part.

  • Cecelia

    “Matthews and McMahon both took exception to this, as they didn’t believe a significant number of people were blaming Palin. ”

    Oh, come now! Who are they kidding!

    They brought the crosshair map within a couple of hours of the murders!

    They’ve focused more on Sara Palin than upon the Tuscon officials who had numerous warnings about the shooter, or the shooter, himself!

    They’ve demanded that Palin account for the crosshair map in light of the shooting, as though it irrefutably had an impact on the killer. When she dared to suggest that the immediacy and the intensity of this astounding media scrutiny is suggestive of a baseless claim of blood being on her hands, they accused her of making herself a victim!

    NOW they say that they don’t “blame” Palin for the murders? They’ve done NOTHING else!

  • SmartAlec

    the real john t said:
    I guess the meaning of my comment flew right over your pointy little heads

    Yep. I don’t usually understand comments that are void of common sense, logic, and reasoning.

  • SmartAlec

    Nacho said:
    Hate and fear sell. Just look at FoxNews and Rush.

    How original, an attack on Fox and Rush. Thanks for proving my point.
    Your Hate-ism is working overtime today.

  • the real john t

    ImNotBlue said:
    For you guys, when it comes to Palin, it’s a lose-lose. No matter what she does, it’s bad, wrong, and worthy of media discussion.

    ImNotBlue said:
    And if we missed the point, why not correct us, instead of attempting to insult?

    Why don’t you take your own advise? Climb down off of your high horse, because you are no better than any other commentor on here. You are not the supreme being you think you are.

  • ndanielson

    What is truly amazing about news organizations is that in the past, they were skeptical of government. Now they slobber up everything Washington says. And the sheeple march in lockstep with every word they utter. Government offers “freebies”, and our schools have failed to teach that nothing is free. Imagine when the bills arrive. The bleating in the streets is coming.

  • TobyTucker

    Sarah Palin is like a tumor growing in Matthews’ brain, the larger it grows, the crazier he gets!
    If only there was a cure for PDS we wouldn’ t have to watch this tragic spectacle unfold before our eyes.

  • SmartAlec

    the real john t said:
    Why don’t you take your own advise? Climb down off of your high horse, because you are no better than any other commentor on here. You are not the supreme being you think you are.

    You are sounding a little Jared-esque. Should we call someone to intervene?

  • the real john t

    Cecelia said:
    They brought the crosshair map within a couple of hours of the murders!

    The shooting took place around 10:30AM Arizona time. Now why don’t you give a link to who brought the map up “a couple” hours later?

  • the real john t

    SmartAlec said:
    You are sounding a little Jared-esque.

    And you read like a dumbwitted idiot that needs to be in a mental hospital.

  • Cecelia

    the real john t said:
    The shooting took place around 10:30AM Arizona time. Now why don’t you give a link to who brought the map up “a couple” hours later?

    I watched MSNBC coverage. They were talking about Palin’s map within two hours of the shooting.

  • Cecelia

    the real john t said:
    And you read like a dumbwitted idiot that needs to be in a mental hospital.

    And you sound like someone who thinks the president’s memorial speech was hooey.

  • SuperChuñdy

    SmartAlec said:
    Insulted by Stupid Chumpy!! I think I’ll just crawl into the corner and cry.

    SmartAlec said:
    You Leftys can say it all you want to, but thinking people with common sense, logic, and reasoning can clearly see that Palin doesn’t keep herself in the news, the members of the PDS club do. It’s Hate-ism straight up!!

    I’m so thankful that people like Tingles, Super Chumpy, and Union thug john T are only 20% of the population and sinking!! Sit on that and spin!!

    Stupid Chumpy? Now that’s a knee slapper!! (Stupid Chump would have made more sense, but that’s probably not what you were going for.) You must have graduated from the University of Idaho with a degree in English; if there’s one thing U of I is known for, it’s producing clever trolls like Palin and “Smart” Alec.

    (Hate-ism. I won’t even bother with that one; what is it about the right and their desire to make up words? i.e. “refutiate” Maybe you were actually trying to be clever by making up a pseudo-intellectual term like witticism or manicheism, but in trying to do so, you failed.)

    Your insult would have meant more if you had bothered to take 2 minutes to type something original or funny (or employed proper grammar); you did neither. Not that I expected much from someone with so much “common sense.” But if common sense is so common, why would anyone want it? Things that are common are worthless precisely because they’re so ordinary.

    Anyone who bothers to read this comment thread can determine who is using “logic and reasoning.” (Hint: It’s not the guy making up “witty” nicknames and words.)

  • ImNotBlue

    @ John

    So, when the left was complaining, and Keith Olbermann was saying that she should make a statement and blah-blah-blah… what they really meant was, “Why hasn’t she put out a statement when we feel it’s appropriate according to us?” Hmm… it seems the ledt wants to control everything she does, and gets upset when she fails to do so.

    Her statement came out after some time had passed, and more of the evidence was know. In my mind, that makes her judgement of what is and isn’t appropriate puts her well ahead of a number of left-wing heavy hitters.

    Oh, and I’ll think about your “high horse” advice, just as soon as I stop believing your actually complaining that I seem to prove you wrong (and foolish) with relatively little effort.

  • the real john t

    Cecelia said:
    I watched MSNBC coverage. They were talking about Palin’s map within two hours of the shooting.

    OH! Just because you said they did makes it the truth? For someone that hates MSNBC you sure do watch enough of it. When do you have time to watch your beloved Fox?

  • the real john t

    ImNotBlue said:
    Oh, and I’ll think about your “high horse” advice, just as soon as I stop believing your actually complaining that I seem to prove you wrong (and foolish) with relatively little effort.

    Only in your mind, little man, only in your mind.

  • SmartAlec

    SuperChuñdy said:
    or employed proper grammar

    Please show me the grammar mistakes Professor.

    SuperChuñdy said:
    Stupid Chump would have made more sense

    No it wouldn’t, Chumpy is closer to Chundy than Chump is.
    See what I mean about common sense? Thank you for providing the evidence.

  • WCinWI

    WildMan said:
    Chrissy is so damn jealous of and obsessed with Sarah that it has become more than funny. It is just damn plain weird. Maybe Chrissy wishes he could get the viewership of anyone over at FOX News. Trouble is goofy dunderhead Chrissy is the second (2nd) lowest rated idiotic talking head over on PMSnbc. That network has really become weird.

    Matthews is beyond obsessed with her. I remember last year where he was Pro-Palin and her charisma last year and wondering how all the boys of the GOP would be able to match her level of excitement with the base.

    Now he’s got PDS and goes on rants about guns all the time. Other than Harris and an occasional conservative, he has partisan hacks on his show ALL the time.

    He was talking about Ron Reagan’s new book on his dad, which is a myth that has been debunked so many times already.

  • david r

    Can these liberal fools talk about anything other than Palin ? They are so desperate to have her win the GOP nomination they are talking about crossing over in the primaries and voting for her. If another Republican can possibly emerge from all this 24-hr Palin coverage, MSNBC’s numbers will start dropping again. Hate sells. And don’t tell me about what’s on Fox. I don’t watch that shit, and don’t plan to start.

  • Cecelia

    the real john t said:
    OH! Just because you said they did makes it the truth? For someone that hates MSNBC you sure do watch enough of it. When do you have time to watch your beloved Fox?

    No, it’s not true because I said it. It’s true because it is what happened.

  • SmartAlec

    SuperChuñdy said:
    if you had bothered to take 2 minutes to type something original or funny (or employed proper grammar

    SuperChunky says this in the same post with all of this stuff-

    SuperChuñdy said:
    (Stupid Chump would have made more sense, but that’s probably not what you were going for.)

    unnecessary parentheses.

    SuperChuñdy said:
    i.e. “refutiate” Maybe you were actually

    4 mistakes in a 6 word span

    SuperChuñdy said:
    take 2 minutes

    2 should be two.
    Add to that all the cases of misusing semicolons, commas, and periods…too many to mention.
    Next time you want to challenge someone on punctuation and grammar, pick someone who is worse than you and you might win. Again, thank you for proving my common sense point.

  • the real john t

    Cecelia said:
    No, it’s not true because I said it. It’s true because it is what happened.

    Yeah right! HAHAHAHA. I watch MSNBC everyday and I didn’t see it happen.

  • Cecelia

    the real john t said:
    Yeah right! HAHAHAHA. I watch MSNBC everyday and I didn’t see it happen.

    Well, it’ll be hard to live with the fact that you’re calling me a liar, John T.

    However, I’m up to the challenge.

  • ndanielson

    The only news organization that ever questions what government is up to is Fox news. Every government program gets a pass from ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, etc…. Every news outlet and talking head except Fox news ever question the government any more, and the sheeple follow, and the little clowns that can hardly string a cohesive sentence together on the internet are oblivious. We no longer get our freedoms from God, but expect them from government. And the little sheeple don’t even notice. Suddenly in all the history of man, a government knows how to run a country, led by the little black boy who has never worked outside of academia and the government. Whose wife has stated openly that she has never even been proud of America. The only nation in the world who has put man on the moon, and offered man his own destiny through a little document, that the liberal elite call too old to understand. And the sheeple follow. Wow. How far we have fallen.

  • the real john t

    Cecelia said:
    Well, it’ll be hard to live with the fact that you’re calling me a liar, John T.

    No it won’t.

  • ndanielson

    SmartAlec said:
    SuperChunky says this in the same post with all of this stuff-

    unnecessary parentheses.

    4 mistakes in a 6 word span

    2 should be two.
    Add to that all the cases of misusing semicolons, commas, and periods…too many to mention.
    Next time you want to challenge someone on punctuation and grammar, pick someone who is worse than you and you might win. Again, thank you for proving my common sense point.

    Go after them on substance, not grammar. You stoop to their level when you do that. And there is so much substance they delude themselves on.

  • ndanielson

    News organizations used to question their government, and hold them accountable, now they work for them.

  • Nacho

    SmartAlec said:
    How original, an attack on Fox and Rush. Thanks for proving my point.
    Your Hate-ism is working overtime today.

    You listed all of MSNBC’s lineup and also included all of “leftstream media” in a story about Chris Matthews.

    In the process of our short discussion, it was completely appropriate for the example I used by mentioning FoxNews and Rush. You wanted to know why the hate-ism and I gave you a perfectly good reason and a perfectly good example.

    You’re trying to play the “you can’t blame Bush anymore” argument. Not because it’s not true, but simply because you’re tired of hearing it.

  • ndanielson

    People like Mathews, Mahar, Behar, Maddow, Shultz, Ratigan, Malloy, Couric, Williams, Sheiffer, 0prah Winfrey, Letterman et. al, make millions off of putting down the very things that made this country great, while supporting anything a democrat administration wants. And the sheeple follow, as they make multi-millionaires out of them. They get the sheeple to laugh at the flag, and religion, God and patriotism, even the very document that made them free. Christmas is a bad word, and our leader says we are just as good as any other country in the world. This includes the ones who marry 9 year old girls to grown men and stone women to death for the accusation of adultery. Adultery is something liberals don’t even find offensive any more because “they do it too” and still celebrate a convicted impeached serial adulterer, and accused rapist. A government servant all of his life that is worth over a hundred million dollars, from a $20,000 dollar salary as an Arkansas governor. And the sheeple follow.

  • the real john t

    ndanielson said:
    while supporting anything a democrat administration wants. And the sheeple follow, as they make multi-millionaires out of them.

    Hey asshole. Who is the highest paid radio hate jock? None other than Rush Limbaugh. Doesn’t O’Reilly make like $50 million a year? What ever happened to Fox’s screeching about you shouldn’t criticize the President when troops are in harm’s way? That kind of went out the door after the Bush yrs didn’t it, since Fox criticizes Obama 24/7. So shove your self righteousness back up your ass where it came from.

  • OxyCon

    You know why Matthews is so vile and hateful these days?

    He’s been a pundit in Washington for decades and he’s a really conceited person who thinks he’s smarter then everyone else. Only Chris Matthews know how things work inside Washington!

    Lo and behold, here comes Keith Olbermann, a sportscaster reject; Special Ed a low rated AM radio failure; Ricky Madcow a blogger; and Crazy Larry w/o his Thorazine…AND GUESS who is the lowest rated pundit at MessNBC?

    LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • ndanielson

    the real john t said:
    Hey asshole. Who is the highest paid radio hate jock? None other than Rush Limbaugh. Doesn’t O’Reilly make like $50 million a year? What ever happened to Fox’s screeching about you shouldn’t criticize the President when troops are in harm’s way? That kind of went out the door after the Bush yrs didn’t it, since Fox criticizes Obama 24/7. So shove your self righteousness back up your ass where it came from.

    Yep, when you’re that rare, you can demand quite a bit, huh? Got a little white guilt going there john? And why so angry? You got your boy in office and kubayah is the song of the day, aint it? Veto power is on your side. But I can name 20 to one your sheeple talking heads to non liberal clowns. You don’t support the troops, do you, so who are you kidding? Which news organizations are questioning anything government does nowadays, real boy?

  • ndanielson

    the real john t said:
    Hey asshole. Who is the highest paid radio hate jock? None other than Rush Limbaugh. Doesn’t O’Reilly make like $50 million a year? What ever happened to Fox’s screeching about you shouldn’t criticize the President when troops are in harm’s way? That kind of went out the door after the Bush yrs didn’t it, since Fox criticizes Obama 24/7. So shove your self righteousness back up your ass where it came from.

    The only people Rush hates are the ones who hate this country and want to destroy it bit by bit. It is your clowns that call our troops murderers, uneducated and rapists. I think that is what is meant by criticizing the war from the left, but I could be wrong. Murtha called marines murderers, Kerry called them rapists, Ried said the war was lost, and Dicky Durbin likened them to Pol Pot and the Nazi’s, right? That’s pretty nasty stuff, huh real boy? Except to a liberal clown.

  • IIWII

    Hmmm….I have two Bachelors’ a Masters and a teaching certificate for 5 subjects… and I have no idea what “makeup foundations” are/is… Thanks Chris… ya just schooled me……….. whatever.

  • IIWII

    OxyCon said:
    You know why Matthews is so vile and hateful these days? He’s been a pundit in Washington for decades and he’s a really conceited person who thinks he’s smarter then everyone else. Only Chris Matthews know how things work inside Washington! Lo and behold, here comes Keith Olbermann, a sportscaster reject; Special Ed a low rated AM radio failure; Ricky Madcow a blogger; and Crazy Larry w/o his Thorazine…AND GUESS who is the lowest rated pundit at MessNBC? LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I just want to say… love your avatar. (Your posts are good too)

  • ndanielson

    the real john t said:
    Hey asshole. Who is the highest paid radio hate jock? None other than Rush Limbaugh. Doesn’t O’Reilly make like $50 million a year? What ever happened to Fox’s screeching about you shouldn’t criticize the President when troops are in harm’s way? That kind of went out the door after the Bush yrs didn’t it, since Fox criticizes Obama 24/7. So shove your self righteousness back up your ass where it came from.

    Anything else there you want to non-address there, skippy? As I didn’t mention Rush or O’reilly at all. Did I? Why are you angry at them? As I said they are the only ones questioning government besides Beck that I can think of off the top of my head. Is that what gets your panties is such a bunch real boy?

  • ndanielson

    ndanielson said:
    Anything else there you want to non-address there, skippy? As I didn’t mention Rush or O’reilly at all. Did I? Why are you angry at them? As I said they are the only ones questioning government besides Beck that I can think of off the top of my head. Is that what gets your panties is such a bunch real boy?

    The fact that no one else takes on government should be making you angry. Not the ones that do. You might actually learn something if you listened. Only you’d get even madder at being duped for so long. Unlike you, I listen to both sides, and it makes a hell of a difference.

  • IIWII

    ndanielson said:
    People like Mathews, Mahar, Behar, Maddow, Shultz, Ratigan, Malloy, Couric, Williams, Sheiffer, 0prah Winfrey, Letterman et. al, make millions off of putting down the very things that made this country great, while supporting anything a democrat administration wants. And the sheeple follow, as they make multi-millionaires out of them. They get the sheeple to laugh at the flag, and religion, God and patriotism, even the very document that made them free. Christmas is a bad word, and our leader says we are just as good as any other country in the world. This includes the ones who marry 9 year old girls to grown men and stone women to death for the accusation of adultery. Adultery is something liberals don’t even find offensive any more because “they do it too” and still celebrate a convicted impeached serial adulterer, and accused rapist. A government servant all of his life that is worth over a hundred million dollars, from a $20,000 dollar salary as an Arkansas governor. And the sheeple follow.

    Just a note about me… not that it matters. I teach high school on the Northern Cheyenne Reservation in Montana. I have flag duty. I have several American Indian students who come out to help raise and lower the flag each day… by choice. The largest celebration by the Northern Cheyenne is the 4th of July. That is when they hold their pow-wow. Interesting how this segment of the country has more respect for the flag than liberals do.

  • ndanielson

    the real john t said:
    Hey asshole. Who is the highest paid radio hate jock? None other than Rush Limbaugh. Doesn’t O’Reilly make like $50 million a year? What ever happened to Fox’s screeching about you shouldn’t criticize the President when troops are in harm’s way? That kind of went out the door after the Bush yrs didn’t it, since Fox criticizes Obama 24/7. So shove your self righteousness back up your ass where it came from.

    That’s the quote I wanted to go with my last post, so everyone can see what a liberal fit looks like, again. All that puffing and you didn’t refute a word I said. Are you proud of that insightful bit of brilliance? We can get that from 90% of the posters here. C’mon wow us with your compassionate reasoning.

  • ndanielson

    IIWII said:
    Just a note about me… not that it matters. I teach high school on the Northern Cheyenne Reservation in Montana. I have flag duty. I have several American Indian students who come out to help raise and lower the flag each day… by choice. The largest celebration by the Northern Cheyenne is the 4th of July. That is when they hold their pow-wow. Interesting how this segment of the country has more respect for the flag than liberals do.

    Liberals burn the flag and spit on the Constitution. Their best journalists find it too old to understand. See Ezra Klein.

  • the real john t

    ndanielson said:
    Anything else there you want to non-address there,

    You didn’t address a damn thing I said. This is part of your ignorant rant:

    “People like Mathews, Mahar, Behar, Maddow, Shultz, Ratigan, Malloy, Couric, Williams, Sheiffer, 0prah Winfrey, Letterman et. al, make millions off of putting down the very things that made this country great, while supporting anything a democrat administration wants. And the sheeple follow,…”.

    I pointed out that Limbaugh, O’Reilly make millions on their hate filled rants. Do they not support everything the RW puts out? If you say no, you are as dumb as the day is long. No, you didn’t mention Rush or O’Reilly at all. All you mentioned were people who you think is on the left. Why didn’t you mention anyone on the right? I already know the answer to that, you only want to show hatred for the left.

  • the real john t

    ndanielson said:
    The fact that no one else takes on government should be making you angry.

    When did Fox or the RW radio idiots take on the Bush Admin.? I’ll wait for your reply.

  • ndanielson

    the real john t said:
    You didn’t address a damn thing I said. This is part of your ignorant rant:

    “People like Mathews, Mahar, Behar, Maddow, Shultz, Ratigan, Malloy, Couric, Williams, Sheiffer, 0prah Winfrey, Letterman et. al, make millions off of putting down the very things that made this country great, while supporting anything a democrat administration wants. And the sheeple follow,…”.

    I pointed out that Limbaugh, O’Reilly make millions on their hate filled rants. Do they not support everything the RW puts out? If you say no, you are as dumb as the day is long. No, you didn’t mention Rush or O’Reilly at all. All you mentioned were people who you think is on the left. Why didn’t you mention anyone on the right? I already know the answer to that, you only want to show hatred for the left.

    They are hate filled rants in your opinion. No they do not support every thing the RW puts out, which is proof that you don’t listen to them. Rush hated Bush’s fiscal policies and that he got into bed with Kennedy on No child left behind, medicare and McCain Feingold, or did you miss those years?

    Your turn! Now name one news organization that is critical of the government. Besides Fox.

  • The Tea Weasel

    OH GOD I so hope Sarah is the nominee for the Republicans.

    It’ll be like watching the Titanic run into the iceberg all over again.

  • IIWII

    ndanielson said:
    Liberals burn the flag and spit on the Constitution. Their best journalists find it too old to understand. See Ezra Klein.

    No offence intended… I teach US history, world history and US government here. I already know Klein. Wow… try getting a liberal to wrap their head around a white man on an Indian reservation teaching history and government…… that has to make them short-circuit.

  • IIWII

    The Tea Weasel said:
    OH GOD I so hope Sarah is the nominee for the Republicans. It’ll be like watching the Titanic run into the iceberg all over again.

    Typical…. just like your side to want people to die… again.

  • ndanielson

    the real john t said:
    When did Fox or the RW radio idiots take on the Bush Admin.? I’ll wait for your reply.

    You don’t watch or listen. You follow the sheeple.

  • The Tea Weasel

    IIWII said:
    Typical…. just like your side to want people to die… again.

    You think Palin is going to kill everyone in the Republican party when she takes the ship down?

    Interesting. I never thought she was anything but mentally malevolent….

  • IIWII

    the real john t said:
    When did Fox or the RW radio idiots take on the Bush Admin.? I’ll wait for your reply.

    kjfv98rehfvb97fh3rewbciuchbrewu (that random typing means “laughing so hard I cannot type”) Hannity, Beck, Rush… they have HOURS of commentary on the wackiness of the Bush Admin. and out of control spending. Did I say hours… I mean’t YEARS…. it is out there. Don’t wait for your Mama bird to chew and partially digest your political food for you… do some checking on your own.

  • ndanielson

    IIWII said:
    No offence intended… I teach US history, world history and US government here. I already know Klein. Wow… try getting a liberal to wrap their head around a white man on an Indian reservation teaching history and government…… that has to make them short-circuit.

    Our liberal professors have perpetrated the “white man bad” mantra for too long. They never taught the kiddies to consider what this country would be like if we were all speaking Portuguese.

  • ndanielson

    ndanielson said:
    Our liberal professors have perpetrated the “white man bad” mantra for too long. They never taught the kiddies to consider what this country would be like if we were all speaking Portuguese.

    Secondly, they aren’t taught History or Government anymore in school. That is how we got to where we are with people like real boy.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Steve-Flesher/850830455 Steve Flesher

    First of all, I am a right winger who loves Sarah. That being said, I know why she’s going on Hannity. Three reasons:

    A.) Nobody with Palin’s star power would waste their time on a lifeless show like Hardball. I think she may get 20 viewers on its best night. Even Hannity’s radio show has more listeners than all the hosts on MSNBC have viewers combined.

    B.) Hannity will be cordial to Mrs. Palin. Matthews hates her.

    C.) SHE IS ON FOX NEWS PAYROLL. Of course she’s giving the first interview after the shooting on Fox.

    Palin has had CBS journalists out to her home, has been interviewed by Oprah, been on the Tonight Show, been interviewed by Barbara Walters twice. It’s not a question of her only going on Fox. It’s a question of her loyalty to FOX though. If she runs for President, it will be announced on FOX, too.

  • the real john t

    ndanielson said:
    You don’t watch or listen. You follow the sheeple.

    And you just proved you can’t answer the question. You are getting too ignorant to even try and converse with.

  • ndanielson

    IIWII said:
    kjfv98rehfvb97fh3rewbciuchbrewu (that random typing means “laughing so hard I cannot type”) Hannity, Beck, Rush… they have HOURS of commentary on the wackiness of the Bush Admin. and out of control spending. Did I say hours… I mean’t YEARS…. it is out there. Don’t wait for your Mama bird to chew and partially digest your political food for you… do some checking on your own.

    They can’t, IIWII. They have two obstacles that they cannot overcome, hatred and lack of critical thinking skills, hence ignorance, plain and straight up.

  • IIWII

    The Tea Weasel said:
    You think Palin is going to kill everyone in the Republican party when she takes the ship down? Interesting. I never thought she was anything but mentally malevolent….

    WHOA!!!!!! YOU brought up the Titanic/iceberg thingy… when a whole bunch of people died… and you want to watch that happen all over again????? More people dying for your political amusement???? What??? was so funny about the Titanic??? And yet, in your rhetoric…….. you want to see it happen again????

  • ndanielson

    the real john t said:
    And you just proved you can’t answer the question. You are getting too ignorant to even try and converse with.

    What part of this did you not read: Rush hated Bush’s fiscal policies and that he got into bed with Kennedy on No child left behind, medicare and McCain Feingold, or did you miss those years?

    Ignorant clown.

  • ndanielson

    the real john t said:
    And you just proved you can’t answer the question. You are getting too ignorant to even try and converse with.

    Rush hated Bush’s fiscal policies and that he got into bed with Kennedy on No child left behind, medicare and McCain Feingold, or did you miss those years?

    Your turn, dummy.

  • the real john t

    IIWII said:
    kjfv98rehfvb97fh3rewbciuchbrewu (that random typing means “laughing so hard I cannot type”) Hannity, Beck, Rush… they have HOURS of commentary on the wackiness of the Bush Admin. and out of control spending. Did I say hours… I mean’t YEARS…. it is out there. Don’t wait for your Mama bird to chew and partially digest your political food for you… do some checking on your own.

    Yes, because you said so it must be true. I can just imagine what kind of teacher you are. Nothing like just preaching your own BullShit.

  • the real john t

    ndanielson said:
    What part of this did you not read:

    Show me links to a source if you even know what that means. I’m not going to just read your BS and believe it.

  • ndanielson

    the real john t said:
    And you just proved you can’t answer the question. You are getting too ignorant to even try and converse with.

    Rush hated TARP and the bailout of GM, and that Bush did not secure the border. Rush hated that Bush didn’t go after Fannie and Freddie Mac harder.

    Your turn again, dummy.

  • ndanielson

    the real john t said:
    Yes, because you said so it must be true. I can just imagine what kind of teacher you are. Nothing like just preaching your own BullShit.

    the real john t said:
    Show me links to a source if you even know what that means. I’m not going to just read your BS and believe it.

    See what I mean, IIWII? Couldn’t think on their own if their life depended on it. He’ll believe a millionaire leftist talking head no matter what it says, but won’t look it up himself.

  • IIWII

    ndanielson said:
    They can’t, IIWII. They have two obstacles that they cannot overcome, hatred and lack of critical thinking skills, hence ignorance, plain and straight up.

    Or, as they say on the Rez (Rez… NOT Reservation. If you ever see a person say, ‘On the reservation…’ you know they haven’t a clue. It is called The Rez…)… “plain and straight up”, on the Rez is called… Too Cool.

  • Pablo

    IIWII said:
    Hmmm….I have two Bachelors’ a Masters and a teaching certificate for 5 subjects… and I have no idea what “makeup foundations” are/is… Thanks Chris… ya just schooled me……….. whatever.

    Clearly you’re not a man who wears makeup. Tingles knows these things.

  • Pablo

    the real john t said:
    When did Fox or the RW radio idiots take on the Bush Admin.? I’ll wait for your reply.

    Uh, does amnesty ring a bell? Helllloooo!

  • ndanielson

    the real john t said:
    Yes, because you said so it must be true. I can just imagine what kind of teacher you are. Nothing like just preaching your own BullShit.

    ndanielson said:
    What part of this did you not read: Rush hated Bush’s fiscal policies and that he got into bed with Kennedy on No child left behind, medicare and McCain Feingold, or did you miss those years?

    Ignorant clown.

    If you would have just paid attention all those years, you’d be up to speed, cupcake. Good luck. You have to be tough to be so stupid.

  • IIWII

    the real john t said:
    Yes, because you said so it must be true. I can just imagine what kind of teacher you are. Nothing like just preaching your own BullShit.

    Hey… here’s the real deal.. “too cool” as we say out here. You want to know what kind of teacher I am???? Lame Deer, Montana. Northern Cheyenne Reservation. I have a spare room. Come on out. I’ll get you a pass to my school. You can ask my students yourself what kind of teacher I am. Open invitaion. I have a place where you can stay. I’ll pick you up at Billings airport. I’ll take you to the Rez… I’ll let you walk the halls and ask any student what they think of me as a teacher…. then I’ll look at you and smile…………………………. take me up on this and get a life lesson. I am serious.

  • w_t_f

    IIWII said:
    WHOA!!!!!! YOU brought up the Titanic/iceberg thingy… when a whole bunch of people died… and you want to watch that happen all over again????? More people dying for your political amusement???? What??? was so funny about the Titanic??? And yet, in your rhetoric…….. you want to see it happen again????

    Jesus, I’m glad your not one of my kids teachers. Teaching them about iceberg thingys.

  • IIWII

    Pablo said:
    Clearly you’re not a man who wears makeup. Tingles knows these things.

    Don’t move too fast… I am new here…… I may have a mascara touch or three… hyd327ucgh7gfc7igfwysdy

  • the real john t

    ndanielson said:
    See what I mean, IIWII? Couldn’t think on their own if their life depended on it.

    You haven’t proven a damn thing. Just pulling shit out of your ass and flinging it around like some monkey in the zoo.

  • ndanielson

    IIWII said:
    Or, as they say on the Rez (Rez… NOT Reservation. If you ever see a person say, ‘On the reservation…’ you know they haven’t a clue. It is called The Rez…)… “plain and straight up”, on the Rez is called… Too Cool.

    Well, so far, IIWII, I’ve got a resume’ and a lingo lesson. What is your take on white guilt, American exceptionalism, and leftist professors?

  • w_t_f

    ndanielson said:
    Rush hated TARP and the bailout of GM, and that Bush did not secure the border. Rush hated that Bush didn’t go after Fannie and Freddie Mac harder. Your turn again, dummy.

    Rush hates everything. He’s just a miserable loudmouth, mean spirited degenerate. BFD

  • IIWII

    w_t_f said:
    Jesus, I’m glad your not one of my kids teachers. Teaching them about iceberg thingys.

    Really??? How so??? Ok, let me type more so you can have the gaps filled in for you rather than doing the work yourself….
    YOU brought up the Titanic/iceberg confluence… confluence = thingy

    happy now???? and if ya want another “thingy” comment from me. “The Commitments” (Great movie).

    “Anyting else?
    “Yeah. Me Mum would like one of dose tingies what wakes ya up in da mornin’ wiff a cup uh coffee.”

    “Thingy” is highly regarded and respected around the world.

  • IIWII

    IIWII said:
    Really??? How so??? Ok, let me type more so you can have the gaps filled in for you rather than doing the work yourself….YOU brought up the Titanic/iceberg confluence… confluence = thingy happy now???? and if ya want another “thingy” comment from me. “The Commitments” (Great movie). “Anyting else?“Yeah. Me Mum would like one of dose tingies what wakes ya up in da mornin’ wiff a cup uh coffee.” “Thingy” is highly regarded and respected around the world.

    and as for teaching…. “your” should be “you’re”… just saying…. from a fella what you would not like to teach your children (kids are goats) again…. just saying….

  • ndanielson

    Some people prove so much by throwing fits. Mostly they show that they don’t know what they are talking about by throwing a fit.They show their lack of maturity by swearing, because they have been shown to be sheeple clowns. Finally they show that they are only worth ignoring.

  • w_t_f

    IIWII said:
    “Thingy” is highly regarded and respected around the world.

    I’m guessing it’s “too cool”.

    Have you taught your kids to *refudiate*? Cause you need to refudiate that I was the one that brought up the titanic/iceberg thingy.

    You Betcha!

  • w_t_f

    IIWII said:
    and as for teaching…. “your” should be “you’re”… just saying…. from a fella what you would not like to teach your children (kids are goats) again…. just saying….

    Got me on that one teach. Too Cool!

  • ndanielson

    w_t_f said:
    I’m guessing it’s “too cool”.

    Have you taught your kids to *refudiate*? Cause you need to refudiate that I was the one that brought up the titanic/iceberg thingy.

    You Betcha!

    Too bad the Marine corpse won’t take dummies. You’d be a shoe in.

  • the real john t

    IIWII said:
    Or, as they say on the Rez (Rez… NOT Reservation. If you ever see a person say, ‘On the reservation…’ you know they haven’t a clue. It is called The Rez…)… “plain and straight up”, on the Rez is called… Too Cool.

    And you just showed your not as smart as you think you are. I had four Indian Ironworkers working for me on a couple of jobs off a Reservation in New York that stretched into Canada. They called it a Reservation.

    Now I suppose you’re going to tell me they weren’t true Native Americans.

  • IIWII

    ndanielson said:
    Well, so far, IIWII, I’ve got a resume’ and a lingo lesson. What is your take on white guilt, American exceptionalism, and leftist professors?

    Until one lives on the Rez…. White guilt, American exceptionalism and leftist professors…. shut yer mouffs, Libs!!!! I could give you a book (or seven) on what happens in Indian Country. My offer also extends to you. If you find your way to Lame Deer, MT… I’ll put ya up and show you Rez life first-hand. I have thoughts and beliefs and facts about what you ask… but this is not the place for me to rant. Will say this about one point… American exceptionalism… yes… we, in this country, push the boundaries of society and science far beyond other nations. We are exceptional… and should not feel guilty about being the best. And that is what I teach my students.

  • the real john t

    ndanielson said:
    Too bad the Marine corpse won’t take dummies. You’d be a shoe in.

    Why don’t you tell us a lie about what branch of the military you’re in or was in?

  • w_t_f

    ndanielson said:
    Well, so far, IIWII, I’ve got a resume’ and a lingo lesson. What is your take on white guilt, American exceptionalism, and leftist professors?

    Somehow I don’t think they taught him that at his on-line college courses.

  • IIWII

    w_t_f said:
    Got me on that one teach. Too Cool!

    Made me laugh… thanks!

  • w_t_f

    ndanielson said:
    Too bad the Marine corpse won’t take dummies. You’d be a shoe in.

    You betcha!

  • ndanielson

    the real john t said:
    And you just showed your not as smart as you think you are. I had four Indian Ironworkers working for me on a couple of jobs off a Reservation in New York that stretched into Canada. They called it a Reservation.

    Now I suppose you’re going to tell me they weren’t true Native Americans.

    No wonder he’s a liberal clown. Union bozo that thinks companies are there just for him. Hey bozo, look at what the UAW has done to the auto industry in this country. Look at Dearborn, Detroit, and Lansing. Wiped out by liberal collective bargaining. Clown.

  • w_t_f

    IIWII said:
    Made me laugh… thanks!

    *You’re* welcome. See I can learn too!

  • IIWII

    the real john t said:
    And you just showed your not as smart as you think you are. I had four Indian Ironworkers working for me on a couple of jobs off a Reservation in New York that stretched into Canada. They called it a Reservation. Now I suppose you’re going to tell me they weren’t true Native Americans.

    White Man talk… on the Rez… with their own… it is called a Rez… I’d bet my wife’s money.

  • the real john t

    IIWII said:
    shut yer mouffs, Libs!!!!

    WOW! And this man claims to hold all these college degress and be highly educated. I guess the truth is coming out.

  • IIWII

    w_t_f said:
    *You’re* welcome. See I can learn too!

    Hilarious!!!! *I love you! Are you female? Marry me!!!!!!

  • ndanielson

    ndanielson said:
    No wonder he’s a liberal clown. Union bozo that thinks companies are there just for him. Hey bozo, look at what the UAW has done to the auto industry in this country. Look at Dearborn, Detroit, and Lansing. Wiped out by liberal collective bargaining. Clown.

    The biggest industrial endeavor on the planet, wiped out in 50 years of collective bargaining. Why isn’t MI a liberal utopia after all those high paying wages, bozo? Hey comrade, why don’t we just unionize everyone? Hey, I know, because then we would all be making nothing, get it? Clown.

  • the real john t

    IIWII said:
    White Man talk… on the Rez… with their own… it is called a Rez…

    You’re just showing what an idiot you really are.

  • ndanielson

    IIWII said:
    Until one lives on the Rez…. White guilt, American exceptionalism and leftist professors…. shut yer mouffs, Libs!!!! I could give you a book (or seven) on what happens in Indian Country. My offer also extends to you. If you find your way to Lame Deer, MT… I’ll put ya up and show you Rez life first-hand. I have thoughts and beliefs and facts about what you ask… but this is not the place for me to rant. Will say this about one point… American exceptionalism… yes… we, in this country, push the boundaries of society and science far beyond other nations. We are exceptional… and should not feel guilty about being the best. And that is what I teach my students.

    Great non-answer there, again. I’m sensing a pattern here.

  • IIWII

    the real john t said:
    WOW! And this man claims to hold all these college degress and be highly educated. I guess the truth is coming out.

    Ahhh….. all of you please read back……… this small bit was cut/copied/posted and taken out of context… again…. I will make it ‘smart’ for those who missed the humor. “Please, Liberals, do not deign to speak on this point if you are not participating in the actuality.” = yer mouffs….. again…. mouffs is a colloquiolism… are you making fun/light of regional expressions??? Shame on you!!!!

  • w_t_f

    ndanielson said:
    Great non-answer there, again. I’m sensing a pattern here.

    yeah, just a wee bit!

  • the real john t

    ndanielson said:
    ndanielson says:
    January 15, 2011 at 3:32 am

    Do you enjoy talking to yourself?

  • IIWII

    the real john t said:
    You’re just showing what an idiot you really are.

    Hey… offer still stands… working with a few and living with them… I have a room. Come to MT. Put your ideology where your brain should be.

  • ndanielson

    the real john t said:
    Why don’t you tell us a lie about what branch of the military you’re in or was in?

    Pretty intimidated by the military, huh, cupcake? Did you find that they really don’ take just anybody? Some people are too dumb, some are criminals. What is your crime?

  • w_t_f

    IIWII said:
    Ahhh….. all of you please read back……… this small bit was cut/copied/posted and taken out of context… again…. I will make it ’smart’ for those who missed the humor. “Please, Liberals, do not deign to speak on this point if you are not participating in the actuality.” = yer mouffs….. again…. mouffs is a colloquiolism… are you making fun/light of regional expressions??? Shame on you!!!!

    No, but you’re coming off really juvenile. Especially for a teacher. IMO

  • IIWII

    ndanielson said:
    Great non-answer there, again. I’m sensing a pattern here.

    Nope… I have answers… but this is not the place. This is hit and run commentary….My answers are a bit long-winded for a quick post. And I did answer one specific point… US is crap-kicking sstrong… and I have no guilt about that.

  • w_t_f

    IIWII said:
    Hey… offer still stands… working with a few and living with them… I have a room. Come to MT. Put your ideology where your brain should be.

    w_t_f said:
    No, but you’re coming off really juvenile. Especially for a teacher. IMO

    All this begging for someone to come to the rez to visit makes me think you’ve been away to long and or not enough adult interaction.

  • IIWII

    w_t_f said:
    No, but you’re coming off really juvenile. Especially for a teacher. IMO

    IMO???????????????????????
    Not able to type the entire phrase?

  • w_t_f

    the real john t said:
    Do you enjoy talking to yourself?

    LOLOLOL

  • w_t_f

    IIWII said:
    IMO???????????????????????Not able to type the entire phrase?

    Too lazy. Too Cool (that shall be your name from now on)

  • IIWII

    w_t_f said:
    All this begging for someone to come to the rez to visit makes me think you’ve been away to long and or not enough adult interaction.

    Nope… neither…. just visit. See what you think you know. Come to the Rez, look around… and challenge your beliefs. Don’t yak and talk and pontificate… here it is. Your chance to see what you have only read about. A place, a room… a chance. Come on out… unless you think your beliefs and opinions will change…. then I can understand your hesitation.

  • ndanielson

    Non-answers, change the subject, deny the answers, reject the answers, attack the messenger, deny the sources, attack the sources, feign ignorance, show ignorance, these clowns got all the moves down pat. All the answers are out there kiddies, just gotta open your eyes. What a waste.

  • ndanielson

    IIWII said:
    Nope… neither…. just visit. See what you think you know. Come to the Rez, look around… and challenge your beliefs. Don’t yak and talk and pontificate… here it is. Your chance to see what you have only read about. A place, a room… a chance. Come on out… unless you think your beliefs and opinions will change…. then I can understand your hesitation.

    Dude you’re creepy.

  • the real john t

    ndanielson said:
    Pretty intimidated by the military, huh, cupcake?

    No, but you seem to be.

  • w_t_f

    IIWII said:
    Nope… neither…. just visit. See what you think you know. Come to the Rez, look around… and challenge your beliefs. Don’t yak and talk and pontificate… here it is. Your chance to see what you have only read about. A place, a room… a chance. Come on out… unless you think your beliefs and opinions will change…. then I can understand your hesitation.

    Look, if you really work/teach on a reservation, I think that’s great. Please explain to me why if I visited my beliefs and or opinions would change. Even though you have no idea what my beliefs or opinions are at this point.

  • IIWII

    w_t_f said:
    Too lazy. Too Cool (that shall be your name from now on)

    nfd3uifh7i43g7f6g43yrf…. funny again! I have a student who has the name, “Knows-his-gun” Not making that up. Love the name “Too Cool”…. and I will call you, “The One Who Has a Sense of HumoUr(“U” added in defferance to my Brit pals) That Makes Me smile At 2 am in Montana… or maybe I’ll shorten it to, “WTFTCA (for Too Cool Also) It has been a hoot.

  • the real john t

    ndanielson said:
    deny the sources, attack the sources,

    When did you ever give a source for anything you spew?

  • w_t_f

    IIWII said:
    Nope… I have answers… but this is not the place. This is hit and run commentary….My answers are a bit long-winded for a quick post. And I did answer one specific point… US is crap-kicking sstrong… and I have no guilt about that.

    Actually its 4am and no one else is here but us idiots you can make as big as a post as you want to or can.

  • ndanielson

    IIWII said:
    Nope… I have answers… but this is not the place. This is hit and run commentary….My answers are a bit long-winded for a quick post. And I did answer one specific point… US is crap-kicking sstrong… and I have no guilt about that.

    You’re delusional if you think we can’t be taken down. I think these two bozos are probably citizens of this country, and they vote, D. They buy into every bit of liberal crap that comes down the pike and cannot think. Our youth have NO problem with socialism, and have never learned the horrors of communism. Wake up.

  • ndanielson

    ndanielson said:
    You’re delusional if you think we can’t be taken down. I think these two bozos are probably citizens of this country, and they vote, D. They buy into every bit of liberal crap that comes down the pike and cannot think. Our youth have NO problem with socialism, and have never learned the horrors of communism. Wake up.

    We also have an administration that has NO problem with socialism. The CPUSA is alive and well, and neither of these clowns have any idea who Van Jones is or Anita Dunn is, or how close to the president’s ear they were.

  • w_t_f

    ndanielson said:
    Non-answers, change the subject, deny the answers, reject the answers, attack the messenger, deny the sources, attack the sources, feign ignorance, show ignorance, these clowns got all the moves down pat. All the answers are out there kiddies, just gotta open your eyes. What a waste.

    WTF are you talking about?

  • w_t_f

    ndanielson said:
    I think these two bozos

    I think JohnT left me with the two bozos.

  • ndanielson

    These two bozos think that America, and the white man was the only country and people that ever engaged in slavery. And that the American Indians were the only peoples that ever lost their country to foreign invasion. Hence, they do not realize how close they are to have just as well been speaking Dutch or Portuguese. Get it?

  • Nacho

    Steve Flesher said:
    First of all, I am a right winger who loves Sarah. That being said, I know why she’s going on Hannity. Three reasons:

    A.) Nobody with Palin’s star power would waste their time on a lifeless show like Hardball. I think she may get 20 viewers on its best night. Even Hannity’s radio show has more listeners than all the hosts on MSNBC have viewers combined.

    B.) Hannity will be cordial to Mrs. Palin. Matthews hates her.

    C.) SHE IS ON FOX NEWS PAYROLL. Of course she’s giving the first interview after the shooting on Fox.

    Palin has had CBS journalists out to her home, has been interviewed by Oprah, been on the Tonight Show, been interviewed by Barbara Walters twice. It’s not a question of her only going on Fox. It’s a question of her loyalty to FOX though. If she runs for President, it will be announced on FOX, too.

    This is too good to be true. Are you a lefty fake posing as a Palin supporter?

  • IIWII

    w_t_f said:
    Look, if you really work/teach on a reservation, I think that’s great. Please explain to me why if I visited my beliefs and or opinions would change. Even though you have no idea what my beliefs or opinions are at this point.

    I really do teach on a Rez. Northern Cheyenne. Honestly… I think many Americans have the misconception the American Indians are oppressed and subjugated. Heck, I was born in Indiana and grew up in Illinois… and I had preconceptions before I moved to Montana. I am not looking for a fight. I am not trying to pick an arguement… but many on the left (just saying) have a tendancy to think and keep the American Indian as a victim. Come out here. See what goes on… they are poor… they have an incredible penchant for spousal abuse and alcoholism. Diabetes is rampant… but it is not about holding blame for something that happened 300 years ago. What are we doing now to make it right? Name calling and rhetoric solves nothing. I could take you through a gallery of Native comments… but that would just self-aggrandizement on my part… trying to pad my teaching prowess… rather… I give you this. usefilm.com I post photos there. My life, my career… it is not about political ideology… and we all bring that to the table… it is about what we leave behind when we take our last breath. I have enjoyed our exchanged barbs… you made me laugh!!!! Rare in this cyber age. We can go at it over and over and over again…. but I am just saying…. when does the vitriol end?????? And yes… still stands… if you want to see a tragic yet uplifting bit of life… 93 miles south-east of Billings…. I’ll take ya about the Rez.

  • the real john t

    w_t_f said:
    WTF are you talking about?

    I told you he likes talking to himself. Someone should keep an eye on that boy.

  • ndanielson

    Spoiled little sh!t for brains who think government owes them something, and has all the answers. Huh, bozos?

  • IIWII

    w_t_f said:
    Actually its 4am and no one else is here but us idiots you can make as big as a post as you want to or can.

    4 am??? Where are you?

  • ndanielson

    IIWII said:
    4 am??? Where are you?

    That would be, my guess, the East coast! Geography isn’t one of your majors, I take it?

  • w_t_f

    IIWII said:
    I really do teach on a Rez. Northern Cheyenne. Honestly… I think many Americans have the misconception the American Indians are oppressed and subjugated. Heck, I was born in Indiana and grew up in Illinois… and I had preconceptions before I moved to Montana. I am not looking for a fight. I am not trying to pick an arguement… but many on the left (just saying) have a tendancy to think and keep the American Indian as a victim. Come out here. See what goes on… they are poor… they have an incredible penchant for spousal abuse and alcoholism. Diabetes is rampant… but it is not about holding blame for something that happened 300 years ago. What are we doing now to make it right? Name calling and rhetoric solves nothing. I could take you through a gallery of Native comments… but that would just self-aggrandizement on my part… trying to pad my teaching prowess… rather… I give you this. usefilm.com I post photos there. My life, my career… it is not about political ideology… and we all bring that to the table… it is about what we leave behind when we take our last breath. I have enjoyed our exchanged barbs… you made me laugh!!!! Rare in this cyber age. We can go at it over and over and over again…. but I am just saying…. when does the vitriol end?????? And yes… still stands… if you want to see a tragic yet uplifting bit of life… 93 miles south-east of Billings…. I’ll take ya about the Rez.

    Now see…that’s a bit more coherent.

    IIWII said:
    What are we doing now to make it right?

    From everything I have read, not nearly as much as we should. But you’re there, so you tell me.
    What are we doing now to make it right?

  • IIWII

    IIWII said:
    4 am??? Where are you?

    “as big a post as you want to or can”… is that a dig???? I ‘can” post longer….. was that a shot at my ability????? (OK!!!!!!!!!!!! I was trying to make you laught with that comment)

  • IIWII

    ndanielson said:
    That would be, my guess, the East coast! Geography isn’t one of your majors, I take it?

    Ass………. yes, I know the time change thingy…. Packers play tomorrow at 8pm eastern… 6 pm Montana… I mean’t… state.

  • w_t_f

    ndanielson said:
    Spoiled little sh!t for brains who think government owes them something, and has all the answers. Huh, bozos?

    Wrong! It’s corporate america that owes us something for the huge tax breaks that’s suppose to supply more jobs, that HASN’T. Now since it’s the government that gave them the tax breaks and the right that wouldn’t pass them without offshore tax restrictions. Then yes in a round about way the government does owe us something.

  • the real john t

    ndanielson said:
    That would be, my guess, the East coast! Geography isn’t one of your majors, I take it?

    And you dropped out of school before even learning how to structure a sentence.

  • ndanielson

    Wow, boys, I think he really likes you.

  • w_t_f

    IIWII said:
    “as big a post as you want to or can”… is that a dig???? I ‘can” post longer….. was that a shot at my ability????? (OK!!!!!!!!!!!! I was trying to make you laught with that comment)

    Slow down too cool. You said this was not the place for a long winded post and I said no one else was here for it to matter at 4am my time. Geez I get it you were trying to make us laugh but at the same time without more context you were/are very confusing about what it was you wanted us to understand.

  • ndanielson

    the real john t said:
    And you dropped out of school before even learning how to structure a sentence.

    And, you dropped out of school before learning how to even structure a sentence.

    I guess so, cupcake. But it is not me bragging about my teaching prowess. But, cupcake, pray tell: what is wrong with that sentence?

    God, you’re an idiot.

  • w_t_f

    *content…i meant

  • ndanielson

    w_t_f said:
    Slow down too cool. You said this was not the place for a long winded post and I said no one else was here for it to matter at 4am my time. Geez I get it you were trying to make us laugh but at the same time without more context you were/are very confusing about what it was you wanted us to understand.

    He’s got lots of time for you two boys, by the looks of it.

  • w_t_f

    w_t_f said:
    without offshore tax restrictions

    I meant with…

  • w_t_f

    ndanielson said:
    He’s got lots of time for you two boys, by the looks of it.

    STFU at least I got a paragraph out of him. lol

  • ndanielson

    w_t_f said:
    *content…i meant

    w_t_f said:
    I meant with…

    Wow, did real boy miss those?

  • w_t_f

    ndanielson said:
    Wow, boys, I think he really likes you.

    Actually, you two could be bros. He was incoherent and you talked to yourself most of the night.

  • IIWII

    w_t_f said:
    Now see…that’s a bit more coherent. From everything I have read, not nearly as much as we should. But you’re there, so you tell me.What are we doing now to make it right?

    Too long for me to type Too Lazy Too Cool….. like it or not, by history’s timeline,.. cultures who have been “absorbed” have about 300 years to make a critical decision. 1— keep fighting the change. In that case they go the way of the Summerians and such… lost to the ages. Choice 2— assimilate. There is a saying among the elders here, “Live your culture or lose your culture.” Not true. Ich bin Deustch. Ich machin ein reise durch Northern Cheyenne. My “culture” is German. My family has been in the states since the 1700′s… and I have assimilated… but I have not lost my cultural identity. I still speak German… to some almost understandable level. What are we doing to make it right? It comes to this… this age, this generation… assimilate or pass forever into the annals of history. The Cheyenne have to make a choice… the reservation system will either continue and hinder… or vanish and leave the Cheyenne to assimilate. These few decades are the historical average when cultures need to make that choice. I will not and do not teach my students from the position they are victims. I tell them they have four clear choices. 1) Stay on the Rez and do nothing and nothing will change. 2) Stay on the Rez, participate and MAYBE things will change. 3) Leave the Rez and return to make things better. 4) Leave the Rez forever and never return. The choices are not mine to make. They have the 4 choices. Not many people know that the US government has a nation to nation relationship with reservations. Washington interacts with a Rez the same way they interact with England, Japan, France, Germany… etc. The Rez is considered a sovereign nation. Long story cut short… the strangest thing Washington ever did…. give Rez sovereign status… then Washington does not have to pay or help. The attitude is, “There are only 4 million American Indians. Not a large voting block. You have independence on the Rez… good-bye… we owe you nothing.” I don’t care what party, or what admin. the attitude is the same, “You do not have enough votes to make a difference.” So how are we making it right? Education. Education. Education. And this may be a surprise to you… I teach US government and US history on the Rez… and after months, semesters and years… students do not know if I am Republican or Democrat. As an instructor it is NOT my place to recruit… it is my job to show all sides and let the students decide. I could type more but I have had a few chats wiff (I’ll take a beating on that spelling) wiff Mr. Miller Lite. Here’s something for you. kidney_pie@hotmail.com. Personal email.

  • the real john t

    ndanielson said:
    pray tell: what is wrong with that sentence?

    Here you go Skippy:

    “That would be, my guess, the East coast!”

    Since the East Coast was not mentioned, most people would have said:

    “The East Coast would be my guess”.

  • the real john t

    w_t_f said:
    w_t_f says:
    January 15, 2011 at 4:29 am

    Sorry w_t_f but i’m going to have to go to bed and leave you with the two idiots. ndanielson has about worn me out with his stupidity.

  • ndanielson

    w_t_f said:
    Wrong! It’s corporate america that owes us something for the huge tax breaks that’s suppose to supply more jobs, that HASN’T. Now since it’s the government that gave them the tax breaks and the right that wouldn’t pass them without offshore tax restrictions. Then yes in a round about way the government does owe us something.

    Spread the wealth, like socialism? I rest my case. Corporate America owes you squat. Your clowns had the house AND the senate for the past 4 years! Just how did republicans stop anything? You bought that hook line and sinker, too. Just like all the liberal clowns you listen to told you to.

    Don’t worry, cupcake, I don’t expect you to answer or understand. Sleep tight, girls.

  • w_t_f

    the real john t said:
    Sorry w_t_f but i’m going to have to go to bed and leave you with the two idiots. ndanielson has about worn me out with his stupidity.

    LOL it’s ok I truly understand. goodnight!

  • IIWII

    ndanielson said:
    You’re delusional if you think we can’t be taken down. I think these two bozos are probably citizens of this country, and they vote, D. They buy into every bit of liberal crap that comes down the pike and cannot think. Our youth have NO problem with socialism, and have never learned the horrors of communism. Wake up.

    You are fighting the wrong battle here with me. I may be creepy…. but go back and find my post on flag duty.

  • w_t_f

    ndanielson said:
    Spread the wealth, like socialism? I rest my case. Corporate America owes you squat. Your clowns had the house AND the senate for the past 4 years! Just how did republicans stop anything? You bought that hook line and sinker, too. Just like all the liberal clowns you listen to told you to. Don’t worry, cupcake, I don’t expect you to answer or understand. Sleep tight, girls.

    That is not even close to what I said.

  • ndanielson

    the real john t said:
    Here you go Skippy:

    “That would be, my guess, the East coast!”

    Since the East Coast was not mentioned, most people would have said:

    “The East Coast would be my guess”.

    A political whiz, a spelling whiz, a grammar whiz is there anything at all you can’t do? No wonder rez boy is so infatuated. God you talk some mean politics. Your insights are spot on. Thank God they are here for all to enjoy. Don’t like the question? Attack the way it was written. Don’t like the question, change the subject. Don’t like the answer to your question, deny the sources, etc. etc… etc.. you got all the tricks, cupcake. For all to see.

  • Pablo

    w_t_f said:
    Wrong! It’s corporate america that owes us something for the huge tax breaks that’s suppose to supply more jobs, that HASN’T.

    They owe us because we didn’t take more of their money!!! What a good little socialist.

  • w_t_f

    IIWII said:
    You are fighting the wrong battle here with me. I may be creepy…. but go back and find my post on flag duty.

    See, you neglected to tell us you were drinking, Which is why your posts were erratic at best, creepy at worst.

  • w_t_f

    Pablo said:
    They owe us because we didn’t take more of their money!!! What a good little socialist.

    Excuse me? I did not say that.

  • ndanielson

    IIWII said:
    You are fighting the wrong battle here with me. I may be creepy…. but go back and find my post on flag duty.

    You got yourself wrong. Go back and find your own post where you exclaim America is kick ass strong. And then look at these two bozos. One has a crew of ironworkers, supposedly. A big voting block, and heavy contributions to the D party. They are, mostly, stupid, and numbers-strong.

  • IIWII

    ndanielson said:
    A political whiz, a spelling whiz, a grammar whiz is there anything at all you can’t do? No wonder rez boy is so infatuated. God you talk some mean politics. Your insights are spot on. Thank God they are here for all to enjoy. Don’t like the question? Attack the way it was written. Don’t like the question, change the subject. Don’t like the answer to your question, deny the sources, etc. etc… etc.. you got all the tricks, cupcake. For all to see.

    Yo… I am not infatuated… interested….. mayhaps. And if you ever call me a “boy” again… stand back.

  • w_t_f

    Pablo said:
    They owe us because we didn’t take more of their money!!! What a good little socialist.

    First of all, know it all. I never even gave it a thought that taxing the rich was gonna fly. Not while he campaigned and not afterwards. And I am completely behind you guys keeping your tax rate where it was/is as long as you guys do what you promised and said the tax breaks would do and that was to create more jobs. Now, are you gonna backpeddle and say that’s not what was promised, way back when Bush gave the tax break? and where the argument was to keep the break or current rate that was to expire?

  • IIWII

    ndanielson said:
    You got yourself wrong. Go back and find your own post where you exclaim America is kick ass strong. And then look at these two bozos. One has a crew of ironworkers, supposedly. A big voting block, and heavy contributions to the D party. They are, mostly, stupid, and numbers-strong.

    I believe the “crew” was intended to support his position on American Indian knowledge… I still think and believe America is kick-ass strong… even with liberals tearing down our honor.

  • IIWII

    w_t_f said:
    See, you neglected to tell us you were drinking, Which is why your posts were erratic at best, creepy at worst.

    Yep, I was drinking… but not yet reached my limit. I am, in the real world, a Guinness man… and now and then a Bass ale. The Rez is dry… my wife of 32 years is in Illinois… The longest I have ever been away from her was 5 days… until I took the teaching position on the Rez… and listen to this… the Rez is dry……me and my love of beer… and I have a dream job and no beer… life is a strange bastard….

  • IIWII

    w_t_f said:
    First of all, know it all. I never even gave it a thought that taxing the rich was gonna fly. Not while he campaigned and not afterwards. And I am completely behind you guys keeping your tax rate where it was/is as long as you guys do what you promised and said the tax breaks would do and that was to create more jobs. Now, are you gonna backpeddle and say that’s not what was promised, way back when Bush gave the tax break? and where the argument was to keep the break or current rate that was to expire?

    As a person who is not a Tea Party member but does lean conservative… you nailed this one. Just ’cause Bush did it does not make it right. Now, what are we doing to make it right?

  • IIWII

    IIWII said:
    Yep, I was drinking… but not yet reached my limit. I am, in the real world, a Guinness man… and now and then a Bass ale. The Rez is dry… my wife of 32 years is in Illinois… The longest I have ever been away from her was 5 days… until I took the teaching position on the Rez… and listen to this… the Rez is dry……me and my love of beer… and I have a dream job and no beer… life is a strange bastard….

    And (I continue because I forgot to add this point) my wife told me it was a test….. (That’s where the whole wife thingy was going)

  • w_t_f

    IIWII said:
    As a person who is not a Tea Party member but does lean conservative… you nailed this one. Just ’cause Bush did it does not make it right. Now, what are we doing to make it right?

    That is a question you need to ask your republican buddies.

  • IIWII

    w_t_f said:
    That is a question you need to ask your republican buddies.

    And your side has no place in the solution? Bi-partisan…. interesting. What do we do as a nation to fix it… and you toss it back on a political side. Knows-his-gun understands more about the process than you are willing to accept. Work together???? NEVER!!!!!! Nevuh!!!!! How dare a conservative ask a liberal to join in a solution. I can only offer a hand….. you seem to always slap it away. As Americans…. how do we fix this? Rhetorical questions… the answer is to work together for common ground. And you folks call my side the party of “no.” Rhetoric…. simple and plain.

  • Probably NOT wrong

    I am beginning to think there is not too much of a difference in Tingles
    and Jared Lougheren. I hope Sarah’s Security detail is watching
    him very closely.
    It has gone beyond his obviously yanking off …..

  • IIWII

    the real john t said:
    Why don’t you tell us a lie about what branch of the military you’re in or was in?

    Careful…… your comments are seen by others. I was not a member of the military… I am not a vet. But two of my children have volunteered to protect your freedoms. My son is a graduate of the University of Illinois and my daughter is just now returning from a years duty in Iraq. Even in jest……. watch what you say about the military….. look my daughter in the eyes and tell her she is not honored. When you set lie and military in the same sentence…………… not good……..

  • w_t_f

    Obviously we all have to work together to improve things. We have to get people back to work. We have to educate our young that the same kind of jobs that were there for their parents are not going to be there for them. The way I see it. Automation is taking over more and more factory type of jobs (the one still left in this country). Much of that automation is computerized. So the types of jobs that young people should be considering is either mechanic/maintenance and obviously computer tech. And there will always be the teaching, health and criminal fields. I’m probably missing some but you get my jist. My concern right now is how to get people back to work now. People that have been laid off and are struggling. Not everyone has the ability to go back to school for various reasons. Especially the middleage. Do I have any answers? No not really I don’t. Thankfully I have a great job and one I don’t expect to lose before I retire. (hopefully) Which is not that far away. But I do feel for those in need. I hear all these conservatives on here pissing and moaning about the current administration. I have yet to see any of them come out with ideas on how to get things back on track. That goes for the folks in Washington as well from both sides of the aisle. And you know what else I think? I think this current state of discourse is actually favored by both sides. Keeps the peoples mind off of the real issue which is job renewal. No way will it die down, because then people will really be focused on what’s the answer to this crisis? And I do believe it’s a crisis.

  • Probably NOT wrong

    IIWII said:
    Careful…… your comments are seen by others. I was not a member of the military… I am not a vet. But two of my children have volunteered to protect your freedoms. My son is a graduate of the University of Illinois and my daughter is just now returning from a years duty in Iraq. Even in jest……. watch what you say about the military….. look my daughter in the eyes and tell her she is not honored. When you set lie and military in the same sentence…………… not good……..

    First of all I served four years in the Navy as an Enlisted Man and I am Damn Proud of that period in my life.
    Second I don’t give a rats ass if you beleive it or not. I have a nephew in Afganistan and another in Flight Training
    in Pensacola.
    Question CHris Matthews service when he ran off to the Peace Corpse during the Vietnam Conflict.
    That was a very effective place to dodge the draft back then. The other being Canada.
    Get a life Numbnuts. Better yet team up with the other resident nutbag Bombshell in accomplishing zero
    Oh, I spelled ‘Corpse” purposely. So don’t waste you time spelling police.

  • Probably NOT wrong

    So there is no confusion. My comments were directed to the Real John T.
    Thanking your Family members or their service IIWII

  • IIWII

    Probably NOT wrong said:
    First of all I served four years in the Navy as an Enlisted Man and I am Damn Proud of that period in my life.Second I don’t give a rats ass if you beleive it or not. I have a nephew in Afganistan and another in Flight Trainingin Pensacola.Question CHris Matthews service when he ran off to the Peace Corpse during the Vietnam Conflict.That was a very effective place to dodge the draft back then. The other being Canada.Get a life Numbnuts. Better yet team up with the other resident nutbag Bombshell in accomplishing zeroOh, I spelled ‘Corpse” purposely. So don’t waste you time spelling police.

    Ummm…. spelling police… I am eddycated… I got the meaning….. when you have to explain it… well, disrespectful…. I have a brain and it functions at a pretty high level.
    Thank you for your service. As for the numbnuts comment and such… shows your lower level of eddycation. Oh, I spelled eddycation like that on purpose… so you would understand. You are a Vet. of the US… bless ya!!!! Clean up your act… the language is disrespectful.

  • IIWII

    Probably NOT wrong said:
    So there is no confusion. My comments were directed to the Real John T.Thanking your Family members or their service IIWII

    Thank you!!!! Eli (Elizabeth) plays flute for the 3rd division army and can launch a RPG from her M14 wiff the best of ‘em!!!!! And she is cute, too! Thank you for the comment. You are on my OK list!!! kekekekekekekek

  • IIWII

    w_t_f said:
    Obviously we all have to work together to improve things. We have to get people back to work. We have to educate our young that the same kind of jobs that were there for their parents are not going to be there for them. The way I see it. Automation is taking over more and more factory type of jobs (the one still left in this country). Much of that automation is computerized. So the types of jobs that young people should be considering is either mechanic/maintenance and obviously computer tech. And there will always be the teaching, health and criminal fields. I’m probably missing some but you get my jist. My concern right now is how to get people back to work now. People that have been laid off and are struggling. Not everyone has the ability to go back to school for various reasons. Especially the middleage. Do I have any answers? No not really I don’t. Thankfully I have a great job and one I don’t expect to lose before I retire. (hopefully) Which is not that far away. But I do feel for those in need. I hear all these conservatives on here pissing and moaning about the current administration. I have yet to see any of them come out with ideas on how to get things back on track. That goes for the folks in Washington as well from both sides of the aisle. And you know what else I think? I think this current state of discourse is actually favored by both sides. Keeps the peoples mind off of the real issue which is job renewal. No way will it die down, because then people will really be focused on what’s the answer to this crisis? And I do believe it’s a crisis.

    Nice comment… we may be able to talk yet…… and unemployment on the Rez is 89%…………. help me fix that crap!!!!

  • Probably NOT wrong

    I apologize sincerely IIWII if you thought I was referring to your comment.
    I was purposely insulting the Real John T, who is constantly questioning
    the service of complete strangers. But I doubt if he is bright enought to
    understand insults directed at him.
    Sorry. I thank your family members for their service.

  • IIWII

    w_t_f said:
    Obviously we all have to work together to improve things. We have to get people back to work. We have to educate our young that the same kind of jobs that were there for their parents are not going to be there for them. The way I see it. Automation is taking over more and more factory type of jobs (the one still left in this country). Much of that automation is computerized. So the types of jobs that young people should be considering is either mechanic/maintenance and obviously computer tech. And there will always be the teaching, health and criminal fields. I’m probably missing some but you get my jist. My concern right now is how to get people back to work now. People that have been laid off and are struggling. Not everyone has the ability to go back to school for various reasons. Especially the middleage. Do I have any answers? No not really I don’t. Thankfully I have a great job and one I don’t expect to lose before I retire. (hopefully) Which is not that far away. But I do feel for those in need. I hear all these conservatives on here pissing and moaning about the current administration. I have yet to see any of them come out with ideas on how to get things back on track. That goes for the folks in Washington as well from both sides of the aisle. And you know what else I think? I think this current state of discourse is actually favored by both sides. Keeps the peoples mind off of the real issue which is job renewal. No way will it die down, because then people will really be focused on what’s the answer to this crisis? And I do believe it’s a crisis.

    Jobs…. oh boy… this will get ya going……
    my oldest son is in radio…he does modern rock on air. My daughter playes flute and violin for the 3rd division army band… this is the one that may make you roll yer eyes… middle son just graduated from the University of Illinois with an aerospace engineering degree.. and his best job hope is working on the next generation of Air Force fighter aircraft… so yes, there are jobs out there… but are they the jobs we would like our children to have? From my point… NO! War is All Hell (William T. Sherman)… but it puts food on his table. And don’t even go to the Natzi, “We just followed orders” place… not the same thing. Just asking/wondering/ruminating on the next generation and jobs……

  • IIWII

    Probably NOT wrong said:
    I apologize sincerely IIWII if you thought I was referring to your comment.I was purposely insulting the Real John T, who is constantly questioningthe service of complete strangers. But I doubt if he is bright enought tounderstand insults directed at him.Sorry. I thank your family members for their service.

    Done. No problems. Thank you! I will pass your comments along to Eli… she is a cute wee thing!!! And can fire an RPG wiff the best of them!!!! I hold no ill will in your direction.

  • IIWII

    IIWII said:
    Done. No problems. Thank you! I will pass your comments along to Eli… she is a cute wee thing!!! And can fire an RPG wiff the best of them!!!! I hold no ill will in your direction.

    WHAT???? John T is not a true American???????????? Thank you (Smiles galore) for that bit of info. Since I am recently new to this site… I will watch out for him/her… and I will follow your comments.
    Jim

  • The Lantern of Truth

    KING at the vanity . MAKE-UP ! OOH !
    Look for my new line of Queen’s Navy Boutique Cosmetics this spring !
    Brought to you by RRK Industries .

  • Mr.Papshmer

    For a chick who’s irrelevant in the minds or progs, and unelectable in the minds of neocons, she sure does command a ton of headlines, doesn’t she?

  • A man without a Country

    Lots of opinions with not facts…..

    I have to wonder sometimes, if most of the commentators on this website would turn off the Tv. for a week? Would they be able to form an opinion without being force-fed to them.

  • TfT

    Yawn – Chris Matthews attacks a woman, NOW is silent on such attacks.

    This man is an MCP; don’t know how/why is wife puts up with him.

    Another embarrassing day for MSNBC as the meltdown continues. And again, mediaite embraces the attacks on Sarah since she seems to drive all the liberals insane.

    The derangement is getting to a point where MSNBC management really needs to keep an eye on Chrissy and Sarah’s security needs to make sure that he isn’t allowed anywhere near her.

  • SmartAlec

    ndanielson said:
    Go after them on substance, not grammar. You stoop to their level when you do that. And there is so much substance they delude themselves on.

    Agreed on the substance part. I don’t usually go after mistakes, but I am a firm believer in self-defense. SuperStupidChunky remarked about my grammar while posting as if he never had a basic English class. That needs to be called out.
    Nothing makes a person look more stupid than insulting one’s grammar with bad grammar.

  • SmartAlec

    Nacho said:
    You listed all of MSNBC’s lineup and also included all of “leftstream media” in a story about Chris Matthews. In the process of our short discussion, it was completely appropriate for the example I used by mentioning FoxNews and Rush. You wanted to know why the hate-ism and I gave you a perfectly good reason and a perfectly good example. You’re trying to play the “you can’t blame Bush anymore” argument. Not because it’s not true, but simply because you’re tired of hearing it.

    Tingles is part of the MSNBC lineup and the Leftstream media…you lose that one big.
    You brought up Fox and Rush, the other side of the street, not even in the article…you lose big again.
    Your example (Fox and Rush) does not provide a reason for the Hate-ism from the left…another L.
    I didn’t bring up Bush, and you’re argument that “they do it too” doesn’t work…0 for 4.

  • notsofast

    Chris, you really need to stop your hate rhetoric. You could cause mass murder.

  • Alz

    TfT said:
    Yawn – Chris Matthews attacks a woman, NOW is silent on such attacks.

    This man is an MCP; don’t know how/why is wife puts up with him.

    Another embarrassing day for MSNBC as the meltdown continues. And again, mediaite embraces the attacks on Sarah since she seems to drive all the liberals insane.

    The derangement is getting to a point where MSNBC management really needs to keep an eye on Chrissy and Sarah’s security needs to make sure that he isn’t allowed anywhere near her.

    James Taranto of the WSJ is posing this:
    “Theory: Palin-hatred has become more consuming as Obama-worship has given way to disillusion.”

    Agreed.

  • Alz

    notsofast said:
    Chris, you really need to stop your hate rhetoric. You could cause mass murder.

    Like the criminal who secretly wants to get caught, Mathews and the other delusional left keep getting more and more removed from reality so as to implode.

    They really have no where else to go. Somewhere in their little brains, they know that their ideas only end up hurting people, but like I said, they can’t change course.

    Changing course would require them to come to the conclusion that the basis of their entire belief system – that everything has to be “equal” – is wrong and false.

    It will take a massive 12 Step effort for them to heal.

  • http://www.libertarianism.com/ Jack Burns

    notsofast said:
    Chris, you really need to stop your hate rhetoric. You could cause mass murder.

    Exactly. He calls out you guys on the right for “vitriolic rhetoric. Yet here he is clearly sowing the seeds of hate!

  • Pablo

    Probably NOT wrong said:
    I am beginning to think there is not too much of a difference in Tingles
    and Jared Lougheren. I hope Sarah’s Security detail is watching
    him very closely.

    The Onion takes this on phenomenon. Political Pundits Surprisingly Good At Getting Inside Mentally Unbalanced Shooter’s Head

  • Probably NOT wrong

    Pablo said:
    The Onion takes this on phenomenon. Political Pundits Surprisingly Good At Getting Inside Mentally Unbalanced Shooter’s Head

    Now that is so right on it is scary!
    But I have an idea that Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, Rush, O’Reilly et al. have already
    beefed up their respective Security Details and know where these Clowns are
    every moment.
    They are likely the first subject of the daily AM Briefing!

  • Probably NOT wrong

    I guess if there is a good thing about all this the Lefty nutbags
    have created a huge amount of new jobs in the Private Security and Protection
    Industry,
    Much needed in present Economy!

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    LOL, There was nothing ignorant, dumb, stupid or out of line in the Palin video and anyone that watched it knows that.
    The shooting in Arizona has done nothing to hurt Palin, Limbaugh, Hannity or Beck. The libs are living on some other planet. The libs have damaged themselves with all this way over the top rhetoric.

    There was NOTHING wrong with using “blood libel” in her speech and it was the CORRECT usage of the term. The people who have proved to be dumb were the ones attacking her for using the term before they checked. People like Matthews, Andrea Mitchel and all the other clowns that jumped on it have exposed themselves as very stupid.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    the real john t said:
    And you dropped out of school before even learning how to structure a sentence.

    Hmmmm, you sound like that guy that did the shooting? He was trying to be the head of the grammar police and now you are trying to replace him. Where do you keep your gun? We need to watch you.

  • adastra

    Oh Sarah. So sad. I see no reason to hate her, she’s no more relevant than any of the media pets of the moment (i.e. Snooki, Ann Coulter, Mel Gibson). People like that are obsessed about in the media because they are train wrecks! People love entertainment, and Sarah’s seemingly inexhaustible supply of hilarious gaffes and self-destructive decisions are more fun to watch than a barrel of monkeys. Other than entertainment, what could possibly be seen as a real contribution to society from Palin? Half a crooked term as governor? She thought so little of the value of serving her country she promptly abandoned it to make money off her 15 minutes.

    No reason to get mad, just sit back with popcorn and enjoy her brief tenure in the limelight.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jim-Treacher/542957672 Jim Treacher

    Chris Matthews is a misogynist.

  • writer

    The undertaker applying Chris’s makeup every night should have his license revoked. If he can’t make Chris appear any more life-like than that, he should find another profession.

  • Georgia999

    Chris Matthews-The Comedy Show. He should be on Comedy Central not MSNBC. Where are you Jon Stuart?

  • MoikFromOik

    You guys sound pretty riled up about these mean left peoples views. Are you sure you aren’t thinking about second amendment remedies to fix what they are saying?

  • BatBoy

    Another Battle Lost by the Left! (They try so hard, don’t they??? Hmmmmmmm)

    Flemington, NJ, January 14, 2011 – A new national study among 1,437 self-reported Democrats, Republicans and Independents revealed that Americans indicated that Sarah Palin was more sincere and believable after viewing her speech in response to the shootings in Tucson.

    Source: http://mediacurves.com/Politics/SarahPalinonTucson/Index.cfm

  • J Baustian

    Why is it that, of all the people on the right, Matthews focuses his hatred on women like Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachmann., Michelle Malkin, Ann Coulter, S.E. Cupp, and Pamela Geller?

    There is a word for Chris Matthews: misogynist. He does not hate them because they are conservative — I presume he still invites Pat Buchanan to his show — but because they are conservative WOMEN.

    Years ago, when I still watched his show, I wrote in a couple times asking why, when he wanted a liberal’s opinion on some topic, he so often invited the communist editor of The Nation, Katrina Vanden Heuvel. Why ask a communist to comment on American politics from the liberal perspective? Why could he not find someone from the center-left, but insisted on inviting someone from the furthest reaches of the extreme left?

  • Just_MC

    mcf1757 said:
    Chris Matthews is spot on!!

    Matthews is a blot on the landscape of rational thought. Hacks like Matthews and Rove should be shunned. It is disgusting the extent to which they have crept into the media. Adversarial media are healthy media.

  • Just_MC

    the real john t said:
    When did Fox or the RW radio idiots take on the Bush Admin.? I’ll wait for your reply.

    Great question. The answer is RARELY. Some folks did. The Andrew Napolitanos of the world did from the outset, but in general, Fox’s people only realized or admitted how bad Bush was in the very late going.

  • K8-EEE

    For someone who told Hillary to avoid “and perception of a whine” ALL Sarah does is whine. Is it possible for her to take ANY criticism without it being “an attack” and characterizing it in some ridiculous way? She can’t take criticism but she has no problem dishing it out, that’s why her unfavorable ratings are so high across the board, except with the hardcore right wing because they seem to share that same character flaw.

    I do find her “I didn’t pull the trigger stop saying I did” akin to “I’m not a witch.” Nobody in the “lamestream media” said Palin was RESPONSIBLE and nobody accused O’Donnell of being a witch, rather, they were laughing at her silly statements she made about herself. They did accuse her of being a fraud with shady finances, but she preferred to address the witch thing. Same thing here. Sarah would rather not address the REAL criticism so she makes up the straw man that “everyone in the media” his “holding her responsible.” Not true.

    What many think is that Palin has a consistently nasty tone, such as constantly linking President Obama to “terrorists” during the campaign, which is neither helpful to solving any of our problems or character befitting a leader.

  • Snidely

    Funny thing, you would think that, if Sarah Palin really is the dunce her critics make her out to be, no threat to either President Obama or the Republican Establishment, they would just ignore her. Why would you waste time noticing her? Fact is, she helped to get rid of some of the Establishment Republicans – Mike Castle comes immediately to mind – and some of the Democratic Congress Critters who lost in November. You almost never see this level of animosity unless there is an element of fear. My guess is both sides fear her because they don’t understand her; she’s not like them.

  • SarahP.

    I actually think Palin might find a home as a Mary Kay rep.

  • TinaFromTampa

    She can try to “refudiate” it all she wants, the fact is, she’s not very smart.

  • Yoda002

    SarahP. said:
    I actually think Palin might find a home as a Mary Kay rep.

    I think you’re on to something there.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ed-Ross/1043648898 Ed Ross

    If it walks like a misogynist pig and it talks like a misogynist pig it is a misogynist pig.

    http://ewross.com/Palin.htm

  • mrmikey10425

    Why doesn’t Mathews get educated on the basics.

  • D Right One

    Now they’re saying the obvious. A lot of people picked up on her idiocy during the campaign.

  • 73aaodkt23

    I’ll say it up front. I’m a Palin fan. She’s great. Classy, smart, courageous, open and spiritually connected to her family and country.
    And you’re right; she could sell Mary kay.
    Shes gorgeous, articulate and friendly. But she sells America fundamentals of freedom, family care and responsibilities, smaller government, and challenges the hypocrisy of the liberal and whacko left;
    She says, “This is me, my family, my state, what I believe, what I care about, where I’m from, and the harm I think The left is doing to America citizens future.” a breath of fresh air as compared to a President whose murky past is still shrouded in secrecy, replete with shadowy cast of felons and America haters, race baiters and misfits.
    The slavering haters like Olbermann, Mathews, Klugman, Maher, etc. are infuriated that she won’t go away and wilt under their obnoxious, hypocritical. phlegm spewing bile.
    Even the President is afraid of her because he refuses to even acknowledge her presence, while behind the scenes his minions go about creating class and race dividing rhetoric and slogans, ever promoting the “victim” mentality among every ethnic and social grouping they can.
    Sarah Palin has struck a nerve in America’s conscience. That’s why they attack her instead of her ideas.

  • Alz

    73aaodkt23 said:
    I’ll say it up front. I’m a Palin fan. She’s great. Classy, smart, courageous, open and spiritually connected to her family and country.
    And you’re right; she could sell Mary kay.
    Shes gorgeous, articulate and friendly. But she sells America fundamentals of freedom, family care and responsibilities, smaller government, and challenges the hypocrisy of the liberal and whacko left;
    She says, “This is me, my family, my state, what I believe, what I care about, where I’m from, and the harm I think The left is doing to America citizens future.” a breath of fresh air as compared to a President whose murky past is still shrouded in secrecy, replete with shadowy cast of felons and America haters, race baiters and misfits.
    The slavering haters like Olbermann, Mathews, Klugman, Maher, etc. are infuriated that she won’t go away and wilt under their obnoxious, hypocritical. phlegm spewing bile.
    Even the President is afraid of her because he refuses to even acknowledge her presence, while behind the scenes his minions go about creating class and race dividing rhetoric and slogans, ever promoting the “victim” mentality among every ethnic and social grouping they can.
    Sarah Palin has struck a nerve in America’s conscience. That’s why they attack her instead of her ideas.

    Exactly.

    I’d say the reason they attack her is because she never went through the liberal victimhood system. They can’t stand it that she succeeded on her own and beyond what liberalism would normally allow.

    For an idea of what liberalism allows, think of the inner cities. Success is stifled and behaviors that lead to success are not supported.

    about all we can say about the results of Modern Liberalism is there is a lot of hopelessness, despair and death.

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