democrats always cave, and republicans are assholes

nothing new here

if bush wanted to give his speech on the same MINUTE as a democratic
presidential debate, then the democrats would have said, “by all means, mr. president!”

The GOP Debate at the Reagan Library has been planned for weeks, if not close to 2 months. Obama told America he’d get back to them on jobs after his vacation (which he deserved, by the way). I think it’s only fair to let the GOP have their debate to discuss jobs and the economy, and then, Obama can have his platform uncontested the night after. Of course, the average moron waiting for Football won’t be content, but, that’s too bad. We have more important issues, right now. (And, yes, I’m a huge NFL fan, I’m just not an idiot.)

The President has no one to blame but himself.  If he hadn’t acted like a petulant child and requested his joint session on the same night as the GOP debate, thinking this was some super smart “oooooh, burn” move at the Republicans, he wouldn’t be left “caving”. 

If he had just requested the joint session the day before or the day after, which there is no reason why he couldn’t since that is what they ended up with anyway, he wouldn’t look like a jackass to the GOP and independents and a weakling who caves every time the Republicans sneeze.

Again, no one to blame but himself.

uh, hate to remind you, but obama CAVED and let boehner have it his way

i don’t see obama or the democrats whining about anything

it’s a done deal

You know that’s not true. Bush would never have done something like that, to begin with, and neither would any other President, knowing full well the Debate’s been scheduled over a month ago. Nonetheless, Boehner would have made a mistake to deny Obama his speech since the Speaker’s never done that before in history.

Ed Schultz is a hack; and similarly Obama is a hack.

This just emphasizes Obama’s complete irrelevance in terms of contributing anything important to the betterment of this country. Changing his schedule is important to who again? What a laughing stock and a sad chapter in this country’s history. President Obama*, an asterisk has never been used more appropriately.

i disagree 

. “They don’t give a damn,” he announced, “nor do they respect the President of the United States or the office.”

I’d love for Ed Schultz to be saying this same thing when a Republican is in office. He’d be the same nasty SOB he is to the Republican in office as he is to every other Republican out there. Such a hypocritical piece of shit, Schultz is.

How in the world did this guy ever get elected president?………….he such a AMATUER……and it looks like he’s having a political breakdown before our eyes………it’s embarrasing.

Oohh….a speech from Obama is coming.
We are all going to be saved.

I like Ed.  I have listened to him going back to his day when he was only on radio.  He is impassioned and I like his populace, sincere approach.  But like all of us, we don’t always get it “right.”  And on this one I happen to disagree with Ed.

I am no mathematician. But I do know the only science that is finite is mathematics.  It is the only tool that can make other sciences finite. With that said you could turn politics into a mathematical equation. Here is one. It is a simple problem. How do you get people to see what the other side offers is failed, insane policies? You promote it so more people watch. And then you counter the next night with sanity.

Unfortunately, Obama has to deal with opening night of the NFL season. But he can’t do it on Friday for the obvious and he can’t wait until over the weekend that would give ample time for the right wing media machine to finalize their willful deceptive oppositional talking points. However, I think their are quite a few Americans that can record one and watch the other. Even if you don’t like your president you need to hear what he has to say because is presence does effect our lives.

But the most important thing is for as many Americans to tune into the Republican Party debate on MSNBC so that they can, for themselves, decide what kind of leadership and direction the opposition would take this country in if they got back into power… Instead of relying on slick political advertising and phony propaganda news shows that advertise as “fair and balanced.”

they whimpered for a few hours…….the REAL whining has just begun……they’ll add this to thier list of Republican intransigence….and milk it for all it’s worth……..But it will only work with you diehards……..it aint playin’  in Indepedantville.

You disagree with what?  B W had a pretty factual post.  What do you disagree with?

Did Bush ever plan anything during a Democratic debate?  Hell, for all of Bush’s faults I am pretty sure you cannot find many cases of him acting in an inappropriate way.

Are you saying that if Bush ever did something with as much douche-baggery as Obama trying to pre-empt the Repub debate the Dems would have just rolled over?  That is just silly if you cannot find an example in 8 years of the ‘idiot’ Bush of him doing something that Obama has done in 3 years.

It was a stupid-douche move by Obama.  The Repubs gave him an escape though. 

Obama was hoping to make the Repubs look like jerks.  Instead he looked like the jerk.  The Repubs gave Obama an out- they should have let him give his speech and done the debate at the same time. 

The Fargo fat ass schills and schills for Barry O and once again he is left with only disappointment.

Is thre anything sadder than urnrequited love?

Even Special Ed is starting to see what a incompetent fool we have in the WH.

wtf were Oblamers advisers thinking and why did Oblamer go along???  ohhh thats right…Oblamer will come out and say he had nothing to do with it and blame someone else…..what an idiot!!!

obama can never win.  no matter what he does, the republicans will find some
way to criticize him.   it’s getting tiresome.  

outside the beltway, nobody really cares

Of course you do, that’s your nature, Darla.

Of course you do, that’s your nature, Darla.

Ed……..let me tell you something………………..the next President will be ANYBODY BUT OBAMA…….so unless the Democrats put up a Primary Challenger…….The Republicans win. It’s not too late for the Democrats….Obama’s in OVER HIS HEAD………and even some Democrats see it.

Ed……..let me tell you something………………..the next President will be ANYBODY BUT OBAMA…….so unless the Democrats put up a Primary Challenger…….The Republicans win. It’s not too late for the Democrats….Obama’s in OVER HIS HEAD………and even some Democrats see it.

New speak: obama can never win.  no matter what he does, the republicans will find some
way to criticize him.   it’s getting tiresome. 

Old speak: Bush can never win.  no matter what he does, the Democrats will find some
way to criticize him.   it’s getting tiresome. 

The seas will calm and peace in the middle east will occur after the annoying one shares his wisdom he learned while serving up ice cream and false dreams to those ignorant enough to buy into his bs!!

and you’re capable of opining on my nature?

That’s right. The First Wookie (aka MOOCH-ELLE) TOLD him it was ok to give in.

-0bama – Pu$$y-

obama nearly immediately agreed to change the date, and he’s a jerk now.  amazing.

he basically said, “ok, john, whatever you say, pal!”

but that’s not enough?  should he buy boehner a new car?  a bottle of wine? 

what?

this is yet more conservative victimization syndrome.  

Wanna see an a$$hole? Look in the mirror.

-Democrats – Happily destroying a really nice country since…   …well, pretty much, ALWAYS-

Wanna see an a$$hole? Look in the mirror.

-Democrats – Happily destroying a really nice country since…   …well, pretty much, ALWAYS-

wrong.  obama isn’t going to be challenged.  

however, he will win re-election

in overwhelming majorities, americans want 3 things :

1.  higher taxes on the rich

2.  medicare strengthened

3.  social security strengthened

no republican is running on 1, 2 or 3

He is a jerk because he knew the date of the debate and tried to one-up it.

Obama only changed it because he saw the polls of him looking like a douche.

Imagine how tired you would be if you liked George W Bush!

Just when you think Ed Schultz can’t get any more idiotic, he “rises” to the occasion… Obama’s little speech stunt backfired on him and now he looks even weaker—if that’s possible. Good ol’ Bungling Barrack… One term and done. The petulant empty suit and snake oil salesman in chief is a walking disaster and a laughing stock around the world. Note to George Clooney, tell me again about Obama’s genius… Who cares when he gives his inane speech? Take from the makers and give to the takers. We’ve heard it all before. Do us all a favor Obama, take your teleprompter and your juvenile rhetoric and go golfing. It seems to be the only thing you do well—-besides run your big mouth.

Just when you think Ed Schultz can’t get any more idiotic, he “rises” to the occasion… Obama’s little speech stunt backfired on him and now he looks even weaker—if that’s possible. Good ol’ Bungling Barrack… One term and done. The petulant empty suit and snake oil salesman in chief is a walking disaster and a laughing stock around the world. Note to George Clooney, tell me again about Obama’s genius… Who cares when he gives his inane speech? Take from the makers and give to the takers. We’ve heard it all before. Do us all a favor Obama, take your teleprompter and your juvenile rhetoric and go golfing. It seems to be the only thing you do well—-besides run your big mouth.

“Unfortunately, Obama has to deal with opening night of the NFL season.”

OMG, I just realized. Obama will deliver his speech when damn near every american will be tuned into television?? Will it air before, during, after, or at the same time as the game. Suddenly, this looks like it works in Obama’s favor IF and ONLY IF the timing is right.

you’re obviously living in some parallel universe

bush got nearly everything he wanted in his 1st term

A LOT of REALLY big things

and he deserved every bit of criticism he got:

he was stupid, arrogant, started two totally useless trillion dollar wars, spied,
tortured, and drove the economy off the cliff with egregious tax cuts

obama wasn’t in office 10 minutes, and the avalanche of hatred was set.  

and i’m NOT a fan of obama, but i will defend him from republican nonsense
when i see it (which is most of the time)

you’re obviously living in some parallel universe

bush got nearly everything he wanted in his 1st term

A LOT of REALLY big things

and he deserved every bit of criticism he got:

he was stupid, arrogant, started two totally useless trillion dollar wars, spied,
tortured, and drove the economy off the cliff with egregious tax cuts

obama wasn’t in office 10 minutes, and the avalanche of hatred was set.  

and i’m NOT a fan of obama, but i will defend him from republican nonsense
when i see it (which is most of the time)

Did you read what I wrote?  Obama put himself in a position that he later had to “cave” on.  If he had requested any day next week other than the day of the GOP debate, Boehner would have never asked Obama to pick another date.   Every decision Obama makes is a political one…and it almost always backfires on him.

Like I said, he has no one but himself to blame for having to ‘cave”.

And as far as Dems whining about it…I’m sure we will get 24-48 hours of “Republicans don’t care about creating jobs.  The President has his super-dooper jobs plan and the mean old, racist Republicans wouldn’t let him speak on the day he requested.  Because they are mean.  And racist”.  You know that’s coming.  But they can whine all they want.  Once again, the President looks weak.

Did you read what I wrote?  Obama put himself in a position that he later had to “cave” on.  If he had requested any day next week other than the day of the GOP debate, Boehner would have never asked Obama to pick another date.   Every decision Obama makes is a political one…and it almost always backfires on him.

Like I said, he has no one but himself to blame for having to ‘cave”.

And as far as Dems whining about it…I’m sure we will get 24-48 hours of “Republicans don’t care about creating jobs.  The President has his super-dooper jobs plan and the mean old, racist Republicans wouldn’t let him speak on the day he requested.  Because they are mean.  And racist”.  You know that’s coming.  But they can whine all they want.  Once again, the President looks weak.

yeah, obama’s a jerk.  that’s a good one.  nobody believes you.  

you’re in a fringe minority if you think obama is the jerk.

he has given republicans EVERYTHING they’ve wanted since day 1, and he’s the jerk.

and dude, obama AGREED to change his speech date!!!!!

how is that……..jerky??

yeah, obama’s a jerk.  that’s a good one.  nobody believes you.  

you’re in a fringe minority if you think obama is the jerk.

he has given republicans EVERYTHING they’ve wanted since day 1, and he’s the jerk.

and dude, obama AGREED to change his speech date!!!!!

how is that……..jerky??

and besides, NOBODY CARES!

BHO comes off looking like an MSDNC personality (not journalist…they don’t have them).
Bet the secret service had to remind Michelle about the security and she in turn had to tell Barry to move the date. WH staff look like a bunch of bozos. 

Sorry, Darla

1. Jobs

2. Jobs

3. Jobs

I agree.  I go between being annoyed with Obama and feeling sorry for him.  He is so in over his head and has no clue what to do that it really is sad to watch.  The guy is just drowning and he is not being served well by his advisors.  He needs to fire them all and start over.  But he doesn’t seem to have enough self-awareness to recognize this is a problem. 

It is just sad.

No, Bush would have tried to find a way to tie the speech to Sept. 11th and milk it for all he could. Just like he did in 2004 with the NYC GOP convention.

Considering that the GOP clown car of candidates debate every other week, it’s absurd to expect the country to shut down for them.

Still, even though the president caved to Republican poutrage, you expect the rightwing to go on as usual and continue to hysterically accuse him of being an atheist/muslim communist/nazi dictator who won’t work with them.

guess you didn’t notice how the country went from peace and prosperity to wars and financial collapse under George W. Boosh.

He’s a jerk for picking the date to begin with.  He picked that date for political reasons.  There are 4 other days next week he could have chosen.  why that one?  Why…because he thought he it was better and very statesman like to mess with Republicans.  Because that is what all mature, leaders of the free world do. 

No other president has ever done this kind of stuff.  Even Carter, who was just as bad as Obama, never did childish things like this.

Because he decided to do a Joint Session of Congress on the same date as the Republican debate.  I do not care that he changed it- he should have.  It was still a douche-bag low-class chump move.  What don’t you get about this?  If Obama thought for a second it would help him (and he must have when he planned this) he would never have agreed to change the date. 

You keep replying Draladoon- so you must care oh-so-very-much!

You’re missing the whole point……it was childish on Obama’s part to even try this……it goes to show how “ in over his head”  he is. And as to if Obama is a Jerk…..if the definition of Jerk is an incompetant, empty suit speaking thru a teleprompter than yes………he is a Jerk.

What a smarmy delivery Ed give here.  Ever the anti-intellectual, Schultz believes he can actually put a positive spin on Obama practicing the pettiest of politics when he scheduled his speech on the same day as the Republican debate, long scheduled.  Not a jobs plan released through normal channels, mind you, such as the commerce secretary or some such as you normally expect, but a campaign speech (teleprompters and all) before both houses of congress – as if his request for another stimulus package even as we’re 14 trillion in debt were a constitutionally mandated event.

You leftists think you’re winning independents with this ammeter hour act? Obama is redefining the word unpresidential.

BTW, yet another hour goes by in which Mediaite ignores that Tamron Hall, straight news reporter at MSNBC, sat on the latest story of a Congressional Black Caucus member, Andre Carson this time, race baiting at a town hall meeting.

How. Many. More. Hours. Will it be, I wonder?

Do you even read what you write Darladoon?   Let me refresh your memory. 

You said:  “obama can never win. no matter what he does, the republicans will find someway to criticize him. it’s getting tiresome.”

To which I said:  “Imagine how tired you would be if you liked George W Bush!”

Your reply below this (I hate this board) had nothing to do with what we were talking about. 
Could Bush ever win with the Dems?  From Day One Bush was killed by Dems because he “stole the election” and it never really got better- except for a few months after 9/11.  Even then truther scumbags like Alec Baldwin, Bill Mahr, Rosie O’Donnel, and Michael Moore hated on Bush.

Hell, Bush got boo’d at Obama’s inauguration. 

Guess what?  The Bush-Bashing got tiring.  Dems that were bashing Bush for 8 years should have thought about what would happen when their guy got in.  But they did not.  So please stuff it when it comes to tiresome “Obammy cant do anything right” whines.

Either call out your own party or stop complaining.  Calling out the other side never solves anything. 

There it is America, the Left says that George W. Bush caused 9/11. Perfect example of why the Left should never be able to hold political office including the current worthless clown in the White House.

Seems to me Obama put his friends NBC and MSNBC in a difficult position. Were they supposed to drop the debate that had been planned for weeks in order to cover Obama’s speech? Because it would have been embarrassing for the WH if NBC and MSNBC went ahead with the debate instead of covering the Prez. And doubly embarrassing if the debate got better ratings. No, I don’t think the WH went up against the debate on purpose. I think it was another sign of their incompetence.

And the wars and financial collapse continue under Present Downgrade.

4. Unemployment (Economy)

5. Price of Gas (Economy)

6. Recession (Economy)

7. Housing Market (Economy)

8. Inflation (Economy)

9. Disappearing Savings (Economy)

10. Good god anyone but this train wreck again for another 4 years

(and really.  #1. higher taxes on the rich …?  You people are always high, aren’t you?  The only people who give a rat’s behind about your class warfare scenarios are you Marx lovers.  Regular people, descent Americans, just don’t want to pay out the nose in taxes for government waste.)

the people that pay no income tax should not have a say about those that do. right darla….your abortion view is the same

the people that pay no income tax should not have a say about those that do. right darla….your abortion view is the same

It just keeps on getting worse for poor wittle, itty bitty LSD/PMSnbc. All their clowns are coming unglued but, they do that every day so nothing new there. Edith Schultze is upset again and it is so funny when a fat guy gets upset. Oh how his little world is crumbling before his beedy little fat eyes. Edith should start dieting and working out instead of whining and crying 24/7/365. The big baby is as out of shape as the FOX News blowhard, Bob Beckle. What’s with these dummycraps? They must live on donuts and candy bars.

It just keeps on getting worse for poor wittle, itty bitty LSD/PMSnbc. All their clowns are coming unglued but, they do that every day so nothing new there. Edith Schultze is upset again and it is so funny when a fat guy gets upset. Oh how his little world is crumbling before his beedy little fat eyes. Edith should start dieting and working out instead of whining and crying 24/7/365. The big baby is as out of shape as the FOX News blowhard, Bob Beckle. What’s with these dummycraps? They must live on donuts and candy bars.

The President looks weak because he IS weak, or he has really bad advisors. Did they think NBC/MSNBC was going to cancel coverage of the debate in order to cover Obama? And if NBC/MSNBC continued with their planned coverage of the debate (either because they wanted to or were contractually obligated to), did Obama and his people really want to take the chance of ending up on the losing side of the ratings contest? Maybe Obama would come out on top, but it would be so embarrassing if he didn’t. Very poor decision making.

The President looks weak because he IS weak, or he has really bad advisors. Did they think NBC/MSNBC was going to cancel coverage of the debate in order to cover Obama? And if NBC/MSNBC continued with their planned coverage of the debate (either because they wanted to or were contractually obligated to), did Obama and his people really want to take the chance of ending up on the losing side of the ratings contest? Maybe Obama would come out on top, but it would be so embarrassing if he didn’t. Very poor decision making.

BTW, why does Comcast allow their talking idiots to lie, lie, lie as though no one sees right through these scumbags. Overfed, redheaded Ed is one gigantic 350 pound blubberball of lies. America is in serious trouble and Comcast allows this lying scam artist have its own show? Comcast should change their name to ClassLESS…!

You really have to wonder if Obama is coming up with all these really poor decisions on his own, or if he is relying on a bunch of really incompetent advisors who are giving him really bad advise. Either way, Obama comes off looking foolish.

I heard on CNN that in 1914 W.Wilson went before congress in Jan then in Feb then again in March.The Congress got feed up with him and wouldn’t do it again.

Frist didn’t Ed cave when Phill Grfen made him say he was sorry to Laura Langum for calling her a right wing slut. So Matt Laure could interview her on the today show. Ed should not say anything about caving. Also why is this even a big deal ? Who cares if the GOP debate and Obama’s job speech are on the same day.

oh poor bush

(anyone with a pulse/conscience during 2000-20008 knows EXACTLY what i’m talking about)

Lol,keep dreaming.Bad economy,high unemployment. Failed stimulus,bad heath care bill,he is a one term president.He will take his place in history with Jimmy.

i thought government didn’t create jobs, turk?

to which i suspect your (predictable) reply would be:  obama should cut MORE taxes,
and get rid of MORE regulations, and basically dismantle the social safety net

and that would certainly create jobs!  lol

oh, cjd, you’re stale midwesternisms are getting really tiresome

just so you know, once your generation disappears, life will once again evolve in
america….

your opinions are not shared by the vast majority (read: 85-90%) of people 18-29

” Because they are mean.  And racist”. 

How come it’s always the Right Wingers that bring up race in everything?

Nice try.  No ones buying though.

Let’s be fair. The camera adds 10 pounds, so he’s just 340 pounds.

Look on the bright side…m-mayem licked you.

First downgrade in history. Don’t tell the obamawipe$, though.

Funny part is you will STILL vote for obama no matter what he does. ;)

Government doesn’t create jobs, Darla.  But it can smother them. 

Over regulation and high tax rates both prevents businesses from starting and stifles companies from expanding.

There is NO safety net without government revenue, Darla.  There is no revenue without a private sector.  There is no private sector without a profit motive.

I’m ok with liberals, I really am.  I just honestly wish you guys would look at economics instead of reacting to emotional arguments designed to create class warfare.

Do you mean like Sean Hannity saying when Bush was in office that nobody should criticize the President of the US when troops are in harms way, but yet he criticizes Obama every night.

How come you’re always wrong?

darlaloon doesn’t care about jobs as long as she keeps getting her crazy checks…

“TheRealJohnT”, history tells us, is an obvious and overtly Racist name. So Racist.

That’s your proplem Darla, you haven’t been around long enough to gain wisdom. People like you disregard the wisdom learned through years of living. Many cultures hold their elders in high regard. Sadly, youthful progressives like you don’t.

Bush brought the country back after Sept. 11, 2001.

The country STARTED to go to hell when Nasty Pelosi got the checkbook in Jan 2007.

Then, the path to destruction was completed when it became clear to money managers that BeeHO was gonna beat McCain.

HERE’s how this went:

Nov. 8, 2006 – money managers all over the country open their morning papers and say to themselves – “Wow, the Democrats took over congress – time to tighten my belt, no more hiring, no more raises, no more plans for growth. I’m just gonna sit back and try to ride this out”.

THEN, Nov 5, 2008 (and the few weeks preceding)  – money managers all over the country say to themselves: “Wow, we just elected a Socialist: TIME TO PANIC ! – time to start lay-offs, time to get my money offshore, time to liquidate capital investments, HOLY $hit”

=

THIS is what Democrats do. They do it happily and willingly knowing that they will cause GREAT human suffering.

-0bama – Stalin Light-

spell check

OH! Republicans don’t do such things do they? How come Palin showed up at a BBQ in NH the day Romney was announcing his run for President in NH? How come Perry announced his Presidential run in SC the same day as the Iowa straw poll?

Calling the potus a “war criminal” and justifiably criticizing his failing domestic policies are not the same thing fake john t. Think before you post, please!

Thanks, “proObamagenda/sock puppet!”

Didn’t Obama get BinLaden in less than 3yrs in office? Something Bush couldn’t do in 8yrs.

So why doesn’t your queen Bachman tell anyone how she will turn the economy around in just 3 months like she claims she can do? The Repub candidates are nothing but a traveling carnival show of clowns.

Do you mean like the rich?

Obama will get credit for getting Bin Laden, and justifiably so. And he will get credit for “leading from behind” and getting Gaddafi with no American loss of life (at least at this point). And he will also get credit for the first credit rating downgrade in American history, and years of 9+ % unemployment, and the worst economy maybe since the Great Depression…

yes, the president always looks weak

and yet conservatives, strong as ever, are the real victims here 

LOL.LOL.LOL.LOL.LOL.  

Obama did it on purpose. If something was really that important, then he could have canceled his Martha’s Vineyard vacay and called an emergency session of Congress. It was a pure political move.

as far as i know, obama has been up for a total of ONE vote, for those who don’t live
in illinois

turk,

are you saying that we should cut more taxes?

sounds like it to me.  

btw, perry created over 51% of his jobs the last 2 years in the PUBLIC SECTOR

(yawn)

So? You will undoubtedly vote for him again, as I am sure you did in 2008. Or – were you too young to actually vote in 2008? That would explain so much.

Hey Olby Sucks, why are you going by the name of Texan when you live in California where you masterbate horses for a living?

You know, Obama has authorized drone attacks into Pakistan, which have resulted in the loss of innocent lives. Maybe Obama is a war criminal too?

Another of Obama’s “job creation” failures.  This was a company that the Obama administration gave 550 million dollars during last year’s stimulus give-aways.  In fact, the Chairman of the United States even flew twice to visit the plant.  Now, they’re bankrupted.   The Company?  Solyndra of Fremont, CA, a solar panel company which lost its competition to China

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/08/31/MN1R1KU8G2.DTL 

Did you even read your comment before you posted it? That was about the dumbest comment I’ve read in a long time.

how long is “long enough” dayoh?

what are you, 60?

So we need shared sacrifice, right JohnT? The 49% that pay NO income tax should pay some and the uber rich should pay more, right? EVERYONE should have skin in the game, right? Or are you only interested in class warfare?

work in progress dude.

Presidents are supposed to be more … PRESIDENTIAL. You know, above the fray? Obama gambled and lost.

I guess you don’t know history very well. Probably wasn’t your strong point in the 6yrs you went to school.

Incompetence.  Or arrogance.  EVERYTHING this WH does is politically motivated.  If this “jobs” speech was such an urgent event, why not do it during the bus/campaign tour?  Why not call congress back and not go to the Vineyard?  Disingenuous, political gamesmanship.  And busted.

YOU’RE whining.  Incessantly.  He didn’t cave, he got a deserved bitchslapping.  This was no mistake it was a purely political BS move and it backfired on him.  Just like everything else.  Either he’s a fool or he listens to fools.

I’m not 60 Darla. But are you prejudiced against people that are 60?

Rance wrote to DarlaLoon “Did you read what I wrote?”

You’ll notice this exact quote in about 60% of re-replies to ‘Loon.  It’s really quite extraordinary.  She NEVER reads (or comprehends) posts or replies to her posts.  Seriously, start looking for this… it’s a recurring theme.

Well your great leader Cheney wants to take credit for both getting BinLaden and bringing down Quaddafi. He said in an interview the Bush Admin led the groundwork for both. Yet he doesn’t want to take responsibilty for any screwups when the Bush Admin was in office.

Of course 0-bow-ma Hussein blew it because he showed he was weak in the face of the Republican Leadership just like he is weak in just about every other area in his life and his administration not to mention his willpower because he smokes cigarettes also and ended up looking like a fool in front of the whole country that definitely should put pride in the heart of any citizen of Tea Party America.

This is yet another victory that will clear the way for 2012 when we get rid of 0-bow-ma Hussein and take back our country.  Thank you.

Hell, if Obama came up with a cure for cancer the RWers would accuse him of trying to create a population explosion.

Y’know, if you don’t want me to provide that link to the picture of your mother and the ten guys you call Daddy, then you are nothing but a horn-swoggling RACIST!

In Seattle, Obama’s grand stimulus plan for “Green Jobs” created a total 14 jobs, mostly administrative, at a cost of $20 MILLION DOLLARS! For 14 jobs! This is exactly why the fed gov should NOT BE GIVEN ANY MORE TAX PAYER MONEY TO WASTE! They just throw around money like candy.

That’s right, it’s Buuuuuuussssshhhh. Is that you Keith?

Well as they do on awn Stars and American Pickers I say 345 pounds…he,he,he. Anyway you cut the fat OverFed Ed is F*A*T…!

awn s/b Pawn…Mediate really needs an edit button for us idiots who can’t type. .

There you go again with the mother insults again. I’ll bet you’re the life of the party at your drag queen parties with your little dress on and heavy makeup on to cover your 5 o’clock shadow. Do you order all your makeup from Avon? Is that how you sneek into nursing homes to rape elderly men and women? Do you have a little nurses costume you wear?

I believe Broken Tusk. It is a fact that the debate had been scheduled for Sept. 7. The days surrounding Sept. 7 were available for the President’s speech. He could even have slipped in before the debate on the sixth or something, but instead, he chose the date that was already taken. It’s like this: I set a date for my party, and then a month later, you (knowing the date of my party) schedule your party on the same day. Then you want me to move mine. I think this is an issue of manners. Even if you are the President, you don’t get to tell anyone (only a week ahead of time) to move their event when they’ve been planning for weeks.

Slay them straw men, lad!
I didn’t say that at all. But Iraq WAS a war of choice and had zero to do with 9-11. And Bush did blow the Clinton surplus and ran the economy into he ground.
But if you want to bring up 9-11 … I do remember that Bush refused to read the Presidential Daily Briefing that warned “Bin Laden Determined to Strike America.” I also remember him not listening to the advice of Richard Clarke, who tried to get his administration to focus on Al Queda.

Bush didn’t cause 9-11, but he sure as hell was asleep at the switch and his administration did little to prevent it..

You mean the downgrade the tea party Republicans wanted and caused?
Guess you didn’t read the S&P comments about the downgrade being linked to the GOP efforts to hold the debt ceiling hostage.

‘Take Back Our Country…’

Who exactly is the ‘We?’

Are you perhaps referring to Native American Indians taking back their country, after all they were here first. If anyone is entitled to ‘Take Back Our Country,’ it should be them…

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,” said Schultz, driving home the notion that the White House’s originally requested date — which just so happened to be the same day as a GOP presidential debate ………

Yeah right Ed —– which just happen to be, my ‘you’.

I’ll give you a break here Bob. “Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.” Pretty much sums up you and the rest of the DemoKKKrats.

“TheRealJohnT” being the physically repulsive child of a band of humpbacked trolls contributes to Global Warming with every exertion of putrid air from it’s deformed mouth-RACIST little bastard that it is! Eeeggghhhhh, the horror (or in “TheRealJohnT”‘s case the WHORE!)

“TheRealJohnT” being the physically repulsive child of a band of humpbacked trolls contributes to Global Warming with every exertion of putrid air from it’s deformed mouth-RACIST little bastard that it is! Eeeggghhhhh, the horror (or in “TheRealJohnT”‘s case the WHORE!)

Watch the WHOLE video. Towards the end Ed says Obama did NOT cave!

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Fat Eddie makes AL and Chunk look good!
What a repulsive lardass, he is.

Very profound.

Sorry suburban, but trying to sink our economy (so they can say Obama did it), trying to usher in Glenn’s last days scenario, has caused the tea party to be revealed as more against our nation, than for it.

Of COURSE the big-eared cigarette-smoking, coke-sniffing OBAMO caved. He knows what we all know: His speech cannot possibly contain anything more than the finger-wagging empty rhetoric he’s dished out all along. Indeed, didn’t Jay ‘Opie Taylor’ Carney just get done telling us that the president ‘cannot create jobs?’ If that’s indeed true, what earth-moving thing can he POSSIBLY say on Wednesday OR Thursday? He’d prattle on about ‘infrastructure,’ ‘schools,’ bridges,’ ‘high-speed rail’…all guv-mint make-work stuff.

If OBAMO held firm on Wednesday and dished up slop (which he will), he’d be sliced to ribbons the next day.

Not there’s anything wrong with that!

Exactly, Obamo loves cherry-picking what he’s responsible for and will ‘take credit’ for, which is why he’s the most reprehensible, disgusting, vile, and incompetent president EVER. But don’t take MY word for it; every major poll agrees with me…they are just forced into using kinder & gentler language that I’m not bound by.

Obama changed the date of his speech. Another victory for the republicans. LOL.

Special Ed is so angry he probably went home and beat his wife.  At least he used that as an excuse for beating her since he has done it so often he needs another excuse.

Only reason I want Obama to lose to Romney is to end this BS. Such a painful thing to watch. These are the people of torture, Abu Ghuraib, the Patriot act, the Fallujeh atrocity & if you think they’re going to return class for class and decency for decency, you’re wrong. They only understand might and power, something Obama doesn’t have in him. Let’s hope nov 2012 is here before they sink even lower in their treatment of him

Besides and to be fair, Obama’s speech will not be anything other than a whine fest with the word “compromise” in every other sentence. His plans are on the right track but he simply missed his window of opportunity. His hope is to inspire enough people to inundate congress with phone calls, tweets and email to get them to vote to support his ideas. Well dream on, Mr. president.

No one who follows the market and follows economic news is counting on his speech for anything. All eyes are on Bernanke and not mr. weakling

Well, so nice that you were “fair”. LOL

Angry? Here, this is angry: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xemoj6McFk0

The President has never announced a Joint Session without settling the date with Congress first before. This was a punk move and it blew up in his face. It’s too bad the only job this SCOAMF is concerned with is his own.

darla doesn’t like reality, so she objects to it.

Guess you didn’t read the numerous passages in the report that mentioned the debt far more times than the politics. The Reps in the House were in office for only a few months while Obama had 2.5 years of ramping the debt. And you may want to check the voting stats – more Dems voted against the debt ceiling bill than Reps.

Yep, President Victim, Super Loser. 2013 can’t come soon enough. I hope we last that long.

And why, for the love of God, is he calling a Joint Session for his annual “Now I’m focused on jobs, like a laser” speech?

At least he’s doing it at night so the market can’t tank in real time in response to the drivel flowing from his piehole.

The Tea Party didn’t cause a downgrade any more than Code Pink caused the Iraq war. The downgrade belongs to Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi and President Stuttering Clusterfuck. Now don’t watch this drive.

So, do didn’t read this article or watch the clip?

Obama did not cave.  It was yet another ploy to make Republicans look bad.  That’s all the Dems have left.  They cannot solve any problems so it’s just endless tactical maneuvers.  He needs to be replaced with someone serious and with the capability to turn things around.

It is clear this was a political gambit by the White House to eclipse the Republican debate. They sprang this announcement and it came as a surprise to both parties. The House already has votes scheduled that day up to 6:30.

Nope, yours was way dumber.

He gets smaller every time he opens his mouth. We’re looking at the Incredible Shrinking President.

He was supposed to settle the date before announcing, not after. It was a punk move and he landed on his stupid face.

Nice, alleging the President does illegal drugs and being okay that “he’d be sliced to ribbons”. You are one of the self proclaimed patriots, huh.

and your west coast way of dodging is amazing, and just so you know, peoples views change as they age and have children.  but i see you avoid the abortion and tax views you preach on other threads lol

I don’t see it as a ‘victory’ for the Republicans. Only Obamo (“I won”) keeps score, and what pleases me is that he KNOWS he’s losing every single day. Now that it is clear that Obamo wants a mediocre America and he wants to win the race to the bottom, America is saying ‘no.’ As everyone knows, Obamo has no more arrows in his quiver or bullets in his gun, which makes his big ‘speech’ utterly impotent…regardless which day it happens.

Oh, how tortured limp-wristed Libs must be knowing that Obamo is a Limp D_ck president.

Actually, I suspect he’s not listening to his advisors. Bill Daley is not this stupid.

And no offense to any individual tea partiers who’s good intent is presumed. None of those people completely shocked and disheartened the world, none of them caused the US to be demeaned in the eyes of an aghast world, none of them sank our credit rating, and none of them caused unnecessary pain to the elderly by suggesting that their relied upon social security and medicare is “an entitlement” or even “un-Constitutional”. While both taking money from the big corporate donors and defending their right to lower and lower taxes.

That’s 14 jobs that managed to weatherproof THREE houses. For $20 million.

No more. This help is going to kill us.

Obamo has been ‘revealed’ as standing more against this nation than for it. You cannot conclude otherwise when looking at his massive, climbing disapproval numbers.

But you’re a Lib, which means you can conclude whatever you like…which is why we laugh at you.

I love the multiple bitch-slaps this gives to Libs: #1, it’s California. #2, it’s Exhibit A of how Libs waste money. #3, a huge smack-down to all the haughty, violent ‘Green Jobs’ ‘Van Jones’ out there.

No, THIS is angry. http://tinyurl.com/3vuwnbh

What a lump!

Well, there WAS that little inner-city child who pleaded for Obamo to make it ‘Rain candy’ once he became president.

Schultz is spot on. The nutjobs don´t care about the office or the country. They don´t have anything to offer besides the utterly transparent scheme of cutting spending on the backs of the  middle class and the poor for the benefit of the rich and richest.

They wouldn´t give Obama credit  if he invented a cure for AIDS. The hatred against the President is pathetic and pathological. 

Oh look,  the Cons who claim they love history and tradition so much just introduced a shameful new thing to American history:

“The Senate Historical Office knows of no instance in which Congress
refused the president permission to speak before a Joint Session of
Congress,” said Betty K. Koed, an associate historian for the U.S.
Senate, in response to an inquiry from The Huffington Post. “From 1800
to 1913, presidents chose not to address Congress in person. Since 1913,
every president has appeared before Congress at least once during his
term(s) in office. Permission to speak in a joint session is given by
resolution of the House and Senate, and arrangements are made through
the leadership offices of each chamber.

The Government gravy train has come to an end for the Democratic Freeloaders who use working class taxpayers to fund their illegitimate and multi-inseminated welfare “families” – and expect those same hard working taxpayers to take care of them from birth to death, or risk being branded a “Racist” by the Congressional Black Caucus if they don’t! 

Does today’s Democratic Party represent who YOU are? 

The Government gravy train has come to an end for the Democratic Freeloaders who use working class taxpayers to fund their illegitimate and multi-inseminated welfare “families” – and expect those same hard working taxpayers to take care of them from birth to death, or risk being branded a “Racist” by the Congressional Black Caucus if they don’t! 

Does today’s Democratic Party represent who YOU are? 

Oh Pablo the Coward!!! Stop being silly! You hate this country more than anyone! You’re the union member who works a job that supports the union that you hate! You hate everything that is American as a hobby, at this point!

YAY TeaBagger Cult Nation!!!!

I absolutely love it.  Boehner’s so much more accomplished as a politician than Obama and his posse.  Say what you will about George W. Bush, but at least he surrounded himself with competent, experienced people.

Indeed. Why a prime-time speech? If he delivers anything less than a miracle, then everyone will (correctly) wonder why he swallowed up everyone’s attention just to wag his finger (again) in favor of ‘green jobs’ and ‘high-speed rail’ (neither of which are going anywhere). I hope Obamo gets bludgeoned the day after, if he comes across as limp-wristed, accusing, and defensive in the speech.

In other words, if Obamo is true to form, he’ll get bludgeoned the next morning. The stock market will do our bludgeoning for us.

LOL, your loser of a president has been exposed as the empty suit that he is. You are the biggest asshole here. Nothing new.

They don’t give Obama credit for anything because he hasn’t done anything, much less invent the cure for AIDS.  However, George W. Bush’s administration oversaw the largest fight against AIDS in history, in the event you really care about that particular disease.

You cite Huffington Post; therein lies your problem.

Take your meds, dolt.

What a sorry lot of morons…

The best way to win by bluffing is when one is NOT bluffing.

The Boner called the bluff and Obummer just folded.

Muking foron.

Ol’ Golden Boy stood in a circle in the Oval Office and dared John Boehner to bitch-slap him. Then, with all due respect of couse, Boehner (with tears, of joy, in his eyes) bitch-slapped Obama!!

Contact the Senate Historical Office if you have a problem with them.

Barack: Ok John, it was foolish of me to act l;ike a spoiled union worker, and try to upstage the GOP debate.

Boehner: Mr. President, all that’s important is that you remember one thing…WHO’S YOUR DADDY?!”

LMAO

So you oppose medicare and social security, by far the two biggest of those “freeloader” expenses, or just welfare (not withstanding the fact that there literally are not enough jobs to go around because the American corporations moved their operations overseas).

Yea, we know you are pulling for Obama to fail, we get that. Thanks for small favors. After the republicans suceed in sinking our economy further, they can blame it on Obama and elect Michelle Bachman.

That’s like citing MSNBC as a source!
lol

The option to accept the request for a Joint Session falls with the Speaker of the House and the Leader of the Senate.  Boehner said choose another day.  You got a problem with that?  Change the rules.

I keep telling you. The candy industry is a multi-billion dollar industry, not a government program. You are confusing Obama with Captain Crunch.

The Senate Historical Office also knows of no instance in which a sitting president chose a date to speak before a Joint Session of Congress, then announced it to the press WITHOUT agreement or permission from the Speaker of the House.

As Toby Harnden says in the Daily Telegraph, Obama “deliberately added to the climate of acrimony around a speech that is supposed to be a call for a bipartisan approach to tackling the economic situation.”

Medicare and Social Security are both funded by employees. Not by the government.

Corporations are supposed to make profits. They cannot make profits with the burden of bad regulations, taxes and government mandates.

You need to remove your tin foil hat. Either that or you are simply delusional.

So  Abu Ghuraib, the Patriot act, the Fallujeh was an ‘ALL REPUBLICAN’ set of events? I don’t think so. Even Dear Leader has extended some of the Patriot Act, which required Democratic support in the first place (just like passing the Iraq War resolution).

And surely you can’t fault the president for the behavior of a few soldiers on the ground, right? Surely, Obama had no idea that a soldier (and a fellow Muslim ) was going to shoot other soldiers at Fort Hood, right?

Karma’s a bitch ain’t it?

Obamo just sent out a standoffish e-mail to ‘supporters’ (emphasis mine) saying how ‘frustrated’ he is about Congress’ willingness to just ‘do what he tells them to do’ (emphasis his). In other words, Obamo claims he NOW has a clear plan to get people to work but is angry that ANYONE would stand in the way of His Plan.

Let’s rewind to 2010 when Obamo DID have Congress in his tobacco pouch. Did he focus on ‘jobs’ then? Nope…it was all about ObamoCare and ramming that down everyone’s throat. His ‘laser-like focus’ on ‘jobs, jobs, jobs’ should have come THEN.

But because it is coming NOW (or pretending to be ‘now’), Obamo is livid because we ripped that tobacco pouch from his greedy, limp-wristed hands…and now he is the penultimate ‘Limp D_ck’ president.

And the angrier and more petulant Obamo gets, the more people will despise The Angry Black Man (trademark).

I LOVE how this is working out!

Obama himself has admitted to doing illegal drugs. Do you guys EVER look into the past of your Chosen Ones??? geeez

Well, so far Obama has “succeeded” (according to his own words and that of Joe Biden, and other administration officials) and look where that has gotten us (high unemployment, triple deficit, more on food stamps, foreclosures, economy in shambles). If he “succeeds” any more, we WILL be back to the Great Depression! I HOPE HE FAILS (policy-wise, that is).

Oh yeah, and they love us overseas now, right? Racism is gone, right? Iran is “talking” to Obama, right?Hopey, changey, biddledeedum….

I’m not so sure. Showing Böner to be the crass, coarse boor he is can only be a positive thing. But, in fairness to Böner, he is willing to look at a jobs bill. If not now, November, if not November, February ….

“Government doesn’t create jobs, Darla.  But it can smother them.”  

Brilliant, I say “Brilliant!” And, to complete the circle, government can add to the unemployment rolls. Just look at Tollbooth Perry and Scottie Walker!

Yep. All those corporations are struggling right now.

There’s a fundamental moral issue with welfare.

Government welfare policies PROMOTE child abuse, in the form of facilitating reckless and irresponsible childbearing.

Those policies have yielded an 80% single-parent, multi-inseminated birth rate in inner-city areas. These poor kids born into hopeless situations are not viewed as children by many of their “mothers”, just another paycheck from the Government, so they keep getting inseminated, and the Democratic (taxpayer) cash keeps-a-flowin’!
And all they have to do in return is vote and support Democrats.
Isn’t that nice, Democrats take the tax dollars of hard-working Americans, and give it to Freeloading Baby Machines.

Oh, and if you want to change this inhumane funding arrangement, the Democrats will brand you (lol), everyone together now, a RACIST! Whooppeee, the old tired Dem Smear again, but people are understanding finally who the REAL RACISTS are – and they are the Democrats (CBC in particular).

Check your history, the Indians were NOT here first. And if they were, what were others supposed to do, not come? Be subservient to those who came first? become Indians?

The whole people-lized world has had first-comers battling with those who followed them. One people conquered another people. That’s the way its been, until we matured to a more-civilized world (in most places).

Yeah, “WE GUYS” do cause “WE” get the difference between past and present.

And General Motors is a multibillion dollar industry, not a gov’t program.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124385428627671889.html

Really… and you were so far to the last President. Obama is getting WAY more respect from the average “joe-on-the-street” right leaning average conservative than Bush got from the left of this country.

Seriously, are you really concerned with “spelling” in the blogosphere? Come on!

If you’re that serious, how about putting up a complete sentence.

I’m just going count how many times Obama says “I” and “Let me be clear” in his Grand Speech. Otherwise, watching it is like watching reruns… I seen this movie before.

Can you read? The POTUS doesn´t need permission or agreement for releasing the following statement:

Dear Mr. Speaker: (Dear Mr. Leader:),

Our Nation faces unprecedented economic challenges, and millions of hardworking Americans continue to look for jobs. As I have traveled across our country this summer and spoken with our fellow Americans, I have heard a consistent message: Washington needs to put aside politics and start making decisions based on what is best for our country and not what is best for each of our parties in order to grow the economy and create jobs. We must answer this call.

Therefore, I respectfully request the opportunity to address a Joint Session of Congress on September 7, 2011, at 8:00 p.m. It is my intention to lay out a series of bipartisan proposals that the Congress can take immediately to continue to rebuild the American economy by strengthening small businesses, helping Americans get back to work, and putting more money in the paychecks of the Middle Class and working Americans, while still reducing our deficit and getting our fiscal house in order. It is our responsibility to find bipartisan solutions to help grow our economy, and if we are willing to put country before party, I am confident we can do just that.

Except Bush didn’t have a toady media carrying his water for him.

I believe Bush would want his time when he wanted it and not cared about anyone else. Boehner is truly a petulant fool and a childish boor-and Obama is just as big a fool to just cave. People want a leader with balls.

So, MSNBC doesn’t have any slick political advertising (like that Chris Mattews’ kissing Obama’s ass commercial) and phony propaganda (“Lean Forward” everyone)… with Mika reading (reading!) White House talking points on the air on MSNBC’s Morning Joke show?

If you don’t like “Fair & Balanced” news channels, don’t watch them. I’m sure if you Google “MSNBC retracts erroneous report”, you’ll come up with no hits. NOT!

This entire setup was designed in order to overshadow the GOP debate with an obvious message:  Pay attention to the Obama Adminstration, not the GOP. 

Given the fact that the POTUS could have created a plan and three years to publically announce that plan, it’s ridiculous to assume that this was his ONLY opportunity to speak.  The man has spent more time on the air and in public than any POTUS in recent memory. It’s laughable to try to sell it otherwise.

Couldn’t do it for three years? Couldn’t do it during the day?  Couldn’t do it the day before, the day after, or hell, how about LAST WEEK?

It’s all political posturing and only the most foolish or naive would think otherwise.  But then again, Ed was never the smartest pencil in the box…

No but all republican talking heads lined up in defense to justify these atrocious acts. Rush calling abou ghuraib college-hazing and others twisting like pretzels blaming fallujeh on the United Nations somehow. For the most part, it’s a party of war criminals, politicians and constituents alike

I guess the rest of the things we care about don’t matter:

* Under Obama’s stewardship, we have lost 2.2 million jobs (and 900,000 full-time jobs in the last four months alone). He is now on track to have the worst jobs record of any president in the modern era.
* The unemployment rate stands at 9.1 percent v. 7.8 percent the month Obama took office.
* July marked the 30th consecutive month in which the unemployment rate was above the 8 percent level, the highest since the Great Depression.
* Since May 2009 — roughly 14 weeks into the Obama administration — the unemployment rate has been above 10 percent during three months, above 9 percent during 22 months, and above 8 percent during two months.
* Chronic unemployment is worse than during the Great Depression.
* The youth employment rate is at the lowest level since records were first kept in 1948.
* The share of the eligible population holding a job has declined to the lowest level since the early 1980s.
* The housing crisis is worse than in the Great Depression. (Home values are worth roughly one-third less than they were five years ago.)
* The rate of economic growth under Obama has been only slightly higher than the 1930s, the decade of the Great Depression. 
* Fiscal year 2011 will mark the third straight year with deficits in excess of $1 trillion. Prior to the Obama presidency, we had never experienced a deficit in excess of $1 trillion.
* During the Obama presidency, America has increased its debt by $4 trillion.
* America saw its credit rating downgraded for the first time in history under the Obama presidency.
* Consumer confidence has plunged to the lowest level since the Carter presidency.
*  The number of people in the U.S. who are in poverty is on track for a record increase on President Obama’s watch, with the ranks of working-age poor approaching 1960s levels that led to the national war on poverty.

Im not exactly sure what instance you are talking about, but there is a difference in criticizing him when it comes to war time matters and criticizing him about other stuff. This wasn’t about war, it was about a speech. My only problem is that Schultz would have been insulting a Republican president up and down if  he/she was in this exact situation right now. I don’t mind people criticizing presidents. You are supposed to watch what they do and make sure they act right. You just don’t go on TV bitching about Republicans not respecting the president now when you didn’t 3 years ago. At least be consistent. 

Can YOU read? I said Obama “chose a date to speak before a Joint Session of Congress, then announced it to the press WITHOUT agreement “… as noted Obama chose Sep 7th and announced Sep 7th to world WITHOUT an agreement from the Speaker of the House….. get a grip, sport.

Upon receipt of the memo you posted, Boehner respectfully asked the president to change dates. Thus setting off this debate in the blogosphere.

Sorry Barry- the way it works is that you contact the Speaker of the House and inform him you want a joint session and the Speaker then let’s ya know when that can be done. 

But I guess you are too conceited and ignorant to know that.

You said “These are the people of torture, Abu Ghuraib, the Patriot act, the Fallujeh atrocity “… What you call torture was put in place by both parties’ elected officials. And you need to stop blaming the whole military for the select acts of a few. (Not sure what your Fallujeh issue is, anyway)

“Talking heads” like Rush don’t hold an office, so can’t be voted out. Rush is exercising his freedom of speech, agree with him or disagree with him. I sure didn’t agree with all the BS put out on Air America (and I guess America didn’t either).

Now you trying to run away from your own words (“alleging the President does illegal drugs”). My point is that there is no alleging, he DID do illegal drugs. Past or present, the fact remains.

Maybe you know the diffence between “allegedly” and “actually snorting”, hopefully.

Other than State of the Union addresses (and the address that substitutes for an SOTU by an incoming POTUS), the only time Bush called for a joint session was September 20, 2001.

Bush wouldn’t have pulled this punk move.

If you’re not sure, why don’t you just make some crap up and run with it? Why change your stripes now, Kook?

Talking points are not argument. Why don’t you try calling them racists again?

Here. For you.

http://tinyurl.com/3ugkp9c

Now piss off.

Right, which is why they’re not hiring, Kook.

Yep, he’s a moron, alright. But you’ll vote for him anyway, right?

Obama’s cheap tactic has EXPLODED in his face and he does not like it (and neither does Ed).

That war of choice had a crap load of democrats making that same choice, Hillary and Biden included, Sunshine Patriots all.

Enough of that Clinton surplus garbage, he ran a deficit every single year in office, per the US Treasury in billions:

FY 94, $281.26…….FY 95 $ 281.23…….FY 96 $250.83……FY 97 $188.34……..FY 98 $113.05……FY 99 $130.08……FY 00 $17.91……..FY 01 $133.29

Yes, Bush did not read the President’s Daily BRIEFING.  Presidents do not read PDBs, they are BRIEFED on the PDBs and yes, Bush was BRIEFED on the August 06 PDB.

The August 6th PDB was a recap of warnings going back five years and Bush requested that the national security agencies put that particular briefing together, they did, and they BRIEFED him.  “:bin Laden Determined to Strike America” was a consistant threat, it did not mean the threat was known to be imminent at that time, our security and intel agencies were caught flat footed, they, at that time, had not come to consensus whether it was an immediate threat.  The PDB warned of hijacking and hostage taking, it warned that FEDERAL buildings in NY may….may be attacked but had no knowledge as to when.  The WTC Towers were not federal buildings.

Richard Clarke was a liar, his closed door testimony did not match what he said in the televised hearings.  Also remarks he made regarding what went on with the President immediately after the attack were proven to be impossible as he wasn’t in the area with the President as he claimed.

Two US Embassies, WTC 93 and the USS Cole and lefty cranks point at the first 8 months of the Bush Administration.  Pfft!

Hey ass-bag Schultz: Obama’s “jobs” speech was supposed to be on your propaganda channel. It would be the highest rated program with the exception of the prison lock up shows!

Or like Boeing and Obama’s actions against them, assisting in keeping unemployment numbers high

The speaker of the house is an elected official and I’ve never heard Rush demand a thing on the air that the speaker hasn’t dutifully obliged to. He certainly is in the habit of repeating on the air that he is the titular head of the republican party

I’ll reservedly concede the patriot act which centrist dems voted in favor of, but I’m not aware of anyone one the left except for Lieberman who supported torture. And he’s technically an independent anyway.

I ‘reservedly” concede the patriot act because it was concocted and passed during an atmosphere of fear that the republican party has manufactured and got to pass most of their liberty encroaching agenda and illegal wars through including this little thing called the Iraq war. Fallujah and Hadeetha were ground zero for atrocities where non-militant civilians were indiscriminately massacred again with Rush to the rescue defending the acts on the air

This was just a ploy!! Obama knew the date would probably be changed due to the Republican debate being on the same day and time. If Obama’s goal was to make Boehner appear to be more interested in the debate, than hearing the President’s job plan, not sure it worked!!

Ed Schultz always complains how Republicans never cut the President any slack, while he continues to do the same!!

This was just a ploy!! Obama knew the date would probably be changed due to the Republican debate being on the same day and time. If Obama’s goal was to make Boehner appear to be more interested in the debate, than hearing the President’s job plan, not sure it worked!!

Ed Schultz always complains how Republicans never cut the President any slack, while he continues to do the same!!

This was just a ploy!! Obama knew the date would probably be changed due to the Republican debate being on the same day and time. If Obama’s goal was to make Boehner appear to be more interested in the debate, than hearing the President’s job plan, not sure it worked!!

Ed Schultz always complains how Republicans never cut the President any slack, while he continues to do the same!!

Yes, Pebbles. I would still vote for President Barack Hussein Obama to be reelected.

He fked up royally. Big time.

But I am NOT going to vote for a gNOpig because they are much worse.

Its in Obama’s best interest to KEEP the popular GOP people on TV and IN FULL LIGHT day in and day out if he can. He knows its better to let them keep the national stage and after they spend about 4 days discussing NOTHING THAT THEY PLAN TO DO -they never do- He will lay some tossed together plan of action -he can say ANYTHING because they will say nothing- and we will spend another few weeks wondering if the GOP folks are smart.
G, help us ALL.

His got golf balls.

I appreciate your concessions.

However, since you weren’t in Fallujah and Hadeetha, I’m not sure of who you are “accusing” of committing said atrocities and/or how our elected officials (or even Rush) were to blame.

I did hear about some American contractors being beheaded over there and I did hear about Sadam committing some atrocities. But you probably didn’t write any posts criticizing THOSE atrocities, now did you?

BTW, seen any good war protests lately? They were all over the place during Bush’s term.

The truth about waterboarding came out with the Pelosi lie that she never knew it was happening, it was proven that she indeed was briefed.  In the course of the briefings(rep and dem leadership and security committee heads), no democrat other than Jane Harmon objected, she did so in letter form.  I believe it may have been Schumer that wanted to know if that was far enough, meaning, could they expand on it.

Don’t know what you are talking about with fallujah, but with Haditha(2005) of the eight Marines involved, charges have been dropped in six of the cases, on found innocent at trial and one still awaits trial.

The Patriot Act is a spinn off of the 1996 AntiTerrorism Act, you see, during the Clinton years the democrats “concocted and passed during an atmosphere of fear” due to WTC 93 and the bombing of the Muir building. 

In the Daschle-D controlled Senate, the Patriot Act passed by only 98 votes.  Those rascally Republicans certainly must have put the fear into those little democrat sheep.

Nice, you are are proving exactly my point since my reply referred to “coke-sniffing OBAMO”.

He didn´t announce a date. He announced that he respectfully requests the opportunity to address a Joint Session of Congress on September 7, 2011.

On the one hand you seem to be against reproductive education, the distribution of condoms, and abortion, not to mention any federal involvement in that, on the other you decry “reckless childbearing”. Which is it?

Obama has done a good job. As good as possible, given that one party has decided to destroy the American and world economies, for political gain. Just by breaking up the republicans attempt to do that, Obama, and our nation, were victorious. The next step is to hold the republicans accountable and vote them out of power, lest they try again to destroy our economy next year.

Petty damned tiresome watching and listening to the left do the same thing with Bush for 8 years.  Go to hell, turd blossom.

SuburbanPatriot 9 hours ago

We get rid of 0-bow-ma Hussein and take back
our country…’

If SurbanPatriot wants to ‘take back our
country,’ as he suggests, and with such an indulgent manner, then there really
is no more suitable recipient than the Native American Indian who was here
before any Europeans settlers or anyone since.

Felix 3 hours ago in reply
to Johnjguy

‘Check your history, the Indians were NOT
here first.’

http://www.cabrillo.edu/~crsmith/amerskeletons.html

http://www.shmoop.com/native-american-history/

They were here approximately 13,000 years
ago according to the simple site above, in which case which that might suggest
an affirmative. Unfortunately it’s too late for more revisionist history. It’s
all far too well documented. From the moment Columbus stepped off his boat in
the Bahamas and called the people he met there “Indios” meaning
people of India. The site below is a little more extensive and you might enjoy
the history.

http://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/native_voices/native_voices.cfm

If SubPatriot wants to make such remarks
about President Obama, then he should expect to be challenged on the depths of
the stupidity.

According to whose definition are we
civilized?

Perhaps you do mean the Native American
Indian, since they’ve been at the sharp end of European settlers, ‘mature’
colonization or civil civilization?

‘And if they were, what were others supposed
to do, not come?’

Well, let’s be honest, we weren’t exactly
invited were we!

This entire Fast & Furious Guns looks like Obama & Holders Watergate Cover Up,as there are now 11 Murders Directly Traced to Missing Fast & Furious Guns,of which include 6 in Arizona and the two AK-47s used to kill a US Border Patrol Agent! So, both Barack Hussein Obama and Eric Holder and ATF Director also need to resign or be Impeached and Charged with Murders! …
 And I ask California GOP Congressman Issa and US Senator Grassley why have they failed to Bring Impeachment Charges Against Obama.Holder & Melson? Speak Up Issa & Grassley and do it or RESIGN From Congress Yourselves! The American People Demand Fast & Furious Justice for Obama,Holder & Melson here and now! And Action Not Silence From Issa & Grassley!
As always you can contact me at work http://www.westmichiganbusinessreview.com.com and yes keep those jokes coming. Hey is Al Gore still saving the planet from Global Warming by circling it in his private jet?
I never said globlal warming  wasn’t real,  just not man made. Nasa science confirms carbon’s not an issue so go educate yourself.
The only time the president is the smartest guy in the room is when he is in the restroom.

Much to do about nothing. The republican debate is important and should be the center of attention. It was scheduled first. And then of course, the NFL starts the next night- I don’t think the president should do a joint session speech, he is wasting his breath on the republican TBAGGER HOUSE. He needs to go to the american people. As he has said from day one, the change has to come from the bottom up. The repugs have had 30 years destroying the foundation of this democracy in favor of an oligarchy and govt run like a business. It has become so bold in its angst toward american workers that it is now focusing on women. The latest GOP/TBAGGER mantra to women: “IN your face and UP your uterus. Your body is public domain until menapause, get used to it”.” Oh, and by the way RAPE, it is’t so bad!! Having a baby implanted by VIOLENCE,  you only have to remember and relive the assault every day of your life, when you look the child in the eyes. Then again, there is always adoption!!”

Obama wouldn’t give Republicans the time of day when they were in the minority, and now he thinks they are going to let him boss them around when he says “play ball”? Fittingly they just told him to stick the bat up his ass and made him like it. Big Ed, not so much.

http://www.mediate.com/tv/obama-stepping-on-gop-debate-with-joint-session-speech-is-smart-political-move

Mr. Ed said the president “caved.”  Now, he’s saying the president is a caveman! 
 
Ed, how disrespectful!  (I’m useing MSNBC logic in reacing this conclusion!)

As Ed says “fact,” the president didn’t give a “damn” about jobs; his vacation was more important!

Mr. Ed, why didn’t you mention all the solar jobs in Calif and Mass that have “been created” and have now “disappeared”; more of the president’s job creation magic!

“Solar ready,” like “shovel-ready” turned out to  be a shovel of $hit!

No, they are hiring in China. Still haven’t got that, Pablo?

@rio can’t taint entire left by what Pelosi did or didn’t do & perhaps you’d sound more convincing if you didn’t look for vindication by how supportive the other side has been of your actions. If you are as principaled as you claim to be, you’d own up to your beliefs, actions and convictions.

A conviction of yours is that torture is justifiable and infact preferable when applied to Arabs and Muslims.  And your administration did that with impunity. Just come out and own up to it and you’d get better respect from me than hiding behind Pelosi’s skirt

& Hadeetha was simply a war crime, a marine was killed by a roadside bomb, 24 Iraqi civilians were made to pay for it by being massacred in retribution… 11 of the 24 were women and kids. Fallujah, two words: white phosphorus

As to the disingenuous patriot act versus Clinton’s 1996 act…. no can do, can’t be dignified with an answer

Is this Debbie Wasserman-Schultz?

What does this have to do with Palin? She isn’t the president. And if she was and pulled a stupid stunt like this, she should get the same criticism as Obama is getting – from his own party. Several Democrat politico’s have crawled out today to say this was a stupid move on Obama’s part. It makes him look childish and petty. See James Carville’s comment today for reference.

“None of those people completely shocked and disheartened the world, none of them caused the US to be demeaned in the eyes of an aghast world, none of them sank our credit rating”

Why don’t you give us some examples of when and how the Tea Party did any of these things.

Oh gee willikers, he agreed to change the speech date! Well that sure was big of him, wasn’t it? You really are delusional if you actually think Obama has given the Republicans they’ve wanted since day 1. Like Obamacare perhaps? Just when I think you can’t get any dumber, you outdo yourself!

I suppose you think that Boner bit is really cute. It’s about as cute as when you were calling Bristol Palin “Brisket”.

Art, you will never see this story in the MSM until the 2012 elections if ever.

“TMP”

Not really, they are lining up to make one of the largest expenditures in history to remove Obama from office.

We now have the same power of the political dollar that the UNIONS have enjoyed for the past 3 decades probably longer.

Say goodbye Obie, we finally have a level playing field.

“TMP”

Hey Bush lovers, tell us what you liked the most about W’s accomplishments. Was it those hanging chads? The worst attack on the mainland by a foreign aggressor since the war of 1812? Unfunded wars? The Patriot Act? New Orleans? The alchemy of converting record surpluses into record deficits? Torture? You guys seem so proud of him so we want to know what part of destroying our society you are most proud of. He couldn’t even get the name of his country right …kept calling it ‘merika.

Pretty soon there is going to be a memorial in DC with the names of JournOlists on it. It will be four walls in a sewage treatment plant where the fecal matter from every toilet on the east coast fills up the tank until it reaches over Ed Schultz’s name. His name marks the point at which this tank  is FULL OF SH.T.  HIS NAME IS synonymous with all means of holding fecal matter to the point of becoming FULL OF SH.T. 
suibne

Fast and Furious?

You gNOpigs are doubling down on stupid. “Fast and Furious” started under Bush as project “Gun runner.” Darrell Issa and another gNOpig were informed back in April 2010, but now he “forgot” about it.

However, I applaud your zeal to bring those criminals to justice.

This cluster f*** debate will be an Obama bashing event.  They will not discuss their plans or even show why one of them should have better plans then the other. Like I said it’s an Obama bashing event. Besides the moderators never have hard follow up questions. Not worth watching.

Why bother commenting and then why should anyone give a rat what you have to say?

That was my point. It was not the individual tea partier, but the rascals who were elected at the mid-terms who literally tried to send our nation into default. Without Obama’s shrewd negotiating, the republicans tea party brigade would have suceeded.

Well what a shame that would have been. We might have had a balanced budget plus an extra $4 trillion reduction in the deficit instead of a mere $60 billion or whatever it was it ended up being. Nobody in the Republican Party tried to send the country into default. The Democrats are just going to keep on giving us more of the same.

I agree with Darladoon. It’s one thing when you criticize with facts, which was the case with Bush, but it is another thing when you criticize with lies…then continue the lies as truth. Obama’s a muslim, Obama wasn’t born in this country, Obama is a communist/socialist, etc. Defending lies is tiresome, but Broken Tusk had a point too, it is much more tiresome to have to defend your President from the truth it is almost impossible! Therefore, Bush supporters might have been more tired!

I do not see this changing your speech day as caving,  certainly not a big deal! It’s just made out to be one! If I had booked a conflictual day it wouldn’t matter to me if I changed it. Are we not making a mountain out of a mole hill.

Obama caved? Not surprising since his middle name is spelunker

actually it turns out Obama did email Boehner 3 days ago about the scheduling – Boehner, it turns out, never checked his SPAM folder