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Hunters Say Recent SPAlaska Episode Proves Sarah Palin Doesn’t Know Squat About Hunting

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Sarah Palin huntingIt turns out there’s a lot more to hunting than buying a gun, aiming it at a living thing, and pulling the trigger—at least, according to The Awl’s Abe Sauer. Yesterday, he published a piece that claims the latest episode of Sarah Palin’s Alaska, in which Palin and her father go caribou hunting, “absolutely exposes Palin as a charade” who doesn’t truly know the first thing about the sport.

Since I, too, don’t know the first thing about hunting, I’ll leave it to Sauer to explain why Palin’s supposedly a fraud:

For starters, Palin and pa head out on a long hunt without bothering to sight in Palin’s rifle, a mistake no serious hunter would ever make. Why Palin’s dad chose for her a “varmint rifle” for a caribou hunt and why Palin, an admitted “moose hunter,” would not question such a gun’s appropriateness is never answered.

…Several hunter friends to whom I showed the video were less than impressed. All agreed that she did not look like she had handled a gun many times. One, who just posted his November kill on his Facebook profile, said “I would not hunt with her.”

In the episode, Palin is handed a second gun, which, thanks to good video editing, she uses to down the animal in one shot.

But knowledgeable hunters would have all recoiled in horror watching Palin immediately place her finger on the trigger of the “hot” Savage 110 as it was handed to her. Keeping one’s finger off the trigger until the very moment of the shot is the first lesson any responsible hunter ever learns.

Much of Sauer’s evidence comes from negative comments left on Palin’s Facebook page by hunters who cried foul after watching the show. As one said, “No one who is a true hunter lets others carry their rifle or can’t load their own shells. Sarah, you are a phony in this area of your ‘skills.’” Others pointed out that it was odd for Palin not to bring her own rifle on the hunt, since, in Sauer’s words, “familiarity with one’s weapon is a core principle of hunting.”

Palin also drew derision for asking, “Does it kick?” after being handed a rifle. “‘does the rifle kick’ what kind of a question is that? Doesn’t matter if it kicks or not you shoot it the same. That was a girly question momma griz,” said another commenter.

Setting aside the sexism in that last comment, to this untrained eye, it does seem as though these critics have a point. Still, reality shows are heavily edited and often much more staged than “real;” that fact could account for some of the discrepancies viewers noted. Sauer also writes that other commenters across the web have come to Palin’s defense, though he also thinks they sound a little too, well, defensive:

In the tradition of justifying anything to preserve a dear illusion at any cost to reason, a commenter on Hannity’s forum dismissed questions like so: “You’d have seen her dad take a tumble while caring the gun she used. He must have knocked the scope out of alignment.” Another hunter in the 24 Hour Campfire forum reasoned, “I bet the producers of that show knocked that messed with the scope to make it more dramatic,” while another theorized, “If I had to guess, it’d be someone on the set messed with her scope with promises of wealth to make her look stupid.”

Any rifle aficionados from the peanut gallery want to give their two cents? The clip in question is below.

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  • Scrub

    Did anyone ever really think she knew what she was doing? About anything?

  • http://TheDividedStatesBlog.com Publius219

    So wait, Sarah Palin is a fucking fraud? No way!

  • ondrock

    What a non-story. Are you that desperate for negative Palin news? Don’t answer that it was rhetorical.
    How odd, that a former Governor, mother, and full time political operative wouldn’t have the honed hunting skills of Ted Nugent.
    What’s that smell? You reek of desperation.

  • Atticus Draco

    The Awl’s Abe Sauer.

    WHO?
    WhoTF is Abe Sauer?!

  • ondrock

    Publius219 said:
    So wait, Sarah Palin is a fucking fraud? No way!

    If she was lying in the dirt, and actually shot the….(whatever she shot)…then the only fraud here is your foolish attempt at wit.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Antony-Dupuy/1194612935 Antony Dupuy

    Oh dear stupid…does it end…DOES IT EVER END?

    What is it about Sarah Palin that has the left constantly CONSTANTLY CONSTANTLY OBSESSING OVER EVERY SINGLE LITTLE THING SHE DOES?

    Obama doesn’t control the left. Pelosi nor Reid controls the left.

    Its Sarah Palin. And they’re Pavlov’s nutbags.

  • Scrub

    People are already twisting the meaning of this article. It’s not being critical of Palin for her inability to hunt it’s simply pointing out that she doesn’t know how to. This wouldn’t be a problem for anyone else, I don’t care if someone doesn’t know how to hunt or doesn’t like hunting or is wholeheartedly against hunting but Palin is trying to pass herself off as someone who does this regularly. Her show is supposed to be a reality show about her life in Alaska when this clearly isn’t a representation of something that she does often. Being able to do something in the state in which you live doesn’t mean you actually partake in it. I’m sure there are all sorts of things for people to do in Alaska but Sarah Palin does NOT do them.

  • BFD

    ondrock said:
    How odd, that a former Governor, mother, and full time political operative wouldn’t have the honed hunting skills of Ted Nugent.

    You mean the same Ted Nugent who was guilty of deer baiting during a hunt? Is that the kind of “honed hunting skills” you mean?

  • TangledThorns

    None story by the Palin haters. SSDD.

  • The Real Royal King

    Scrub said:
    Did anyone ever really think she knew what she was doing? About anything?

    Hunting is, indeed, only one of the many, many, many things she knows nothing about. Cooking. Make-up. Dressing. English. Parenting. These are all near the top of the list as well. I understand she did spray glue on her butt better than any of the other contestants in Miss Alaska. It didn’t run at all. In fact, many thought she deserved Second Place just for that.

  • Atticus Draco

    Antony Dupuy said:
    Oh dear stupid…does it end…DOES IT EVER END?

    What is it about Sarah Palin that has the left constantly CONSTANTLY CONSTANTLY OBSESSING OVER EVERY SINGLE LITTLE THING SHE DOES?

    Obama doesn’t control the left. Pelosi nor Reid controls the left.

    Its Sarah Palin. And they’re Pavlov’s nutbags.

    Palin Derangement Syndrome?

    I’d go hunting with Sarah!

    I’d rather hunt with her,, than play basketball with the prez
    Even though i would love the opportunity to foul him
    “Dont bring that chit in my house!”

  • BFD

    Scrub said:
    but Palin is trying to pass herself off as someone who does this regularly.

    I noticed this right away.

    It appeared it was the first time she saw a live bear, the first time she went climbing, the first time she clubbed a fish….

    She is an ex-beauty queen and pampered housewife but certainly no outdoors woman.

  • The Real Royal King

    BFD said:
    I noticed this right away.

    It appeared it was the first time she saw a live bear, the first time she went climbing, the first time she clubbed a fish….

    She is an ex-beauty queen and pampered housewife but certainly no outdoors woman.

    But Pat Buchanan says she won many votes from many men in the South and in Pennsylvania and Michigan by holding up that gun.

  • Harry Flashman

    I was wondering how long this would take. As one who has spent his entire life with firearms, here are my peanut-gallery-two-cents-worth of comments.

    Let me just point this one little thing out. One commenter in the article snidely comments: “Does it kick?” after being handed a rifle. “‘does the rifle kick’ what kind of a question is that? Doesn’t matter if it kicks or not you shoot it the same.”

    Let me answer that. HELL YES it matters if you’re shooting a rifle with a scope. Try not taking the amount of recoil into consideration when you put your eye up to the scope. You’ll wear that black eye for a while. It was a stupid comment. Some “expert”

    Palin never claimed to be an accomplished hunter. She said she hunted. There are hunters and there are hunters. I shoot pool from time to time but I can’t claim to be a pool shooter. A real pool shot would clean my clock. Follow the drift? For people to expect her to be a smoothly accomplished expert instead of someone who just hunts or has hunted with dad from time to time is, again, stupid.

    The moose hunter comment – there is a difference between moose hunting and caribou hunting, most notably the terrain. Moose hunting tends to be in closer wooded quarters with shorther shots. Open range hunting like Palin was doing is different.

    And the “edited video” comment – don’t ya think they would have edited and rehearsed a much neater sequence if their motive was to mislead?

    And, the pasty girly men on the left should withhold their comments until they can do better, or at least as well.

    Any questions?

  • Scott_in_MI

    Two points:

    - Once she had the correct rifle, she brought down the Caribou with one shot.
    9looks like she knew what she was doing.)

    - She had NO PROBLEM field dressing her kill after shoting it.
    (to those who don’t know what field dressing is, its cutting the kill open and pulling out its guts. Its not for the fient of heart OR NOVICE HUNTERS)

  • http://www.swissarmyjew.com Keeva

    All of the normal back and forth aside, this is an example of exactly how NOT to handle a firearm. I work in the industry and putting your finger on the trigger immediately and keeping it there while moving around is just plain dangerous. It is an invitation to an accident. It is something we tell customers to never, ever do. Read a gun manual. It is in there repeatedly.

    Rule one – keep your finger off the trigger until you are on target and ready to shoot.

    I am not even going to comment about the stupidity of passing a loaded firearm with the safety off.

    This is not about politics, it is about gun safety.

  • Scott_in_MI

    BFD said:
    I noticed this right away. It appeared it was the first time she saw a live bear, the first time she went climbing, the first time she clubbed a fish…. She is an ex-beauty queen and pampered housewife but certainly no outdoors woman.

    If I seen a Grizzle for the first time, i’d high-tail it out of there. If you’re truthful with yourself, I’m sure you’d admit that you would do the same.

  • Scott_in_MI

    I understand why the libs are criticizing the hunter/Palin. Its because she’s more of a man than they are. She intimidates you.

  • mlong

    YAWN…..Just another Palin bashing day at Mediaite.

  • BFD

    Scott_in_MI said:
    If you’re truthful with yourself, I’m sure you’d admit that you would do the same.

    Not if I was on a boat! lol

  • Atticus Draco

    Scott_in_MI said:
    I understand why the libs are criticizing the hunter/Palin. Its because she’s more of a man than they are. She intimidates you.

    LMAO!
    GOOD ONE

    BFD and RRK immediately came to mind
    They are gurly men

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Templeton/1642703797 Dave Templeton

    Deal with the facts, sh is a hell of a good basketball player and obviously great in bed. I’ll take the latter over the “great white hunter gig” any day!

  • Scott_in_MI

    BFD said:
    Not if I was on a boat! lol

    Whatever. You’d be in Juno in two seconds…probably crying like a bitch

  • ondrock

    BFD said:
    You mean the same Ted Nugent who was guilty of deer baiting during a hunt? Is that the kind of “honed hunting skills” you mean?

    Yes. Isn’t the whole point of hunting to bait the prey. Isn’t that what they sell the scents for? I’m obviously not a hunter, but Sarah has gone out her whole life with her father to hunt. Th

  • Harry Flashman

    Keeva said:

    “Rule one – keep your finger off the trigger until you are on target and ready to shoot.”

    Let me give you the four rules of gun safety:

    1. Keep your finger off the trigger.

    2. Keep your finger off the damn trigger.

    3. Keep your damn finger off the trigger.

    4. Keep your damn finger off the damn trigger.

    There. Now, that being said, all the huffing and puffing about hjer finger being ion the trigger and the safety being off in this case is a bit over blown. Why?

    Because there is NOTHING downrange from the muzzle of that rifle. N-O-T-H-I-N-G. If there had been an accidental discharge it would have been an “oops” moment and not a catastrophe.

    Take a breath, guys.

  • Atticus Draco


    I dunno about the rest of you dudes,,
    But the genuine eagerness Sarah expressed on getting on out there,,
    The devotion on bringing down that buck,,
    SHE DIDN’T BTCH,, SHE DIDN’T START BLAMING CHIT,,
    “Give me the other rifle”
    SHE DIDN’T START EMASCULATING THE GUYS SHE WAS WITH,,
    DIDN’T WHINE ABOUT HER CHILDHOOD,, ETC ETC
    DIDN’T BRING UP CHILDBIRTH (now that was hard),,
    QUOTED TED NUGENT FOR GAWD SAKES,,,
    HOW KEWL WAS THAT?!?!?

    DAMN RIGHT I’M VOTING FOR HER
    THAT CHICK IS HOTT!
    TODD IS A LUCKY MoFo!!!!

  • BFD

    ondrock said:
    Yes. Isn’t the whole point of hunting to bait the prey

    No.

    Yer thinking of fishing. lol

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    Publius219 said:
    So wait, Sarah Palin is a fucking fraud? No way!

    You Palin haters are very funny. If she was a fraud she could have had all the missed shots edidted out of the show. LOL

    See my latest video about Palin Haters at YouTube.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt2FE4I7JJw

  • Magister

    Atticus Draco said:
    WhoTF is Abe Sauer?!

    I’d consider him The Awl’s resident conservative, who lives in Minnesota and often blogs about outdoor and midwestern things. He also often takes their New York-based bloggers to task for having a limited viewpoint in the site’s comments and as Hillary noted, the majority of the criticisms in his “Palin Hunter” post are quotes from other blog comments including those that have been noted above.

    As someone who also doesn’t live in New York City and who have friends or knowledge of all kinds of hobbies or experiences, I generally enjoy his posts.

  • Mr.Papshmer

    A couple of things. First much is made of Palin using a varmint rifle. And .. ? Do you people realize the size of caribou? I used to hunt mulies in Idaho with a .223, those things are twice the size. Also, when my wife hunts with me, I have already sighted her gun in for her. Yes, it was obvious that Palin is no expert hunter, but I doubt that means she’s never gone hunting with her dad or husband. Jesus, you people need a life.

  • LibertySister

    Like I said before this woman lives in the heads of the liberals. There jealousy has consumed them.

    Out of a millions of hunters the liberals will look day and night and spend millions of dollars to find someone to say something negative about her style or her family.

    But, I Love the headline” Hunters say”….
    Sounds like my local news when they have no one to ask with creditability so they just ask someone in the newsroom and take there opinion and use it…Then the reporter says on-air ” Our sources say “….

  • Atticus Draco


    Who would you rather spend a vacation with,,
    the uptight Obama’s..
    or the relaxed Palin’s?

    GAWD I CAINT WAIT ‘TILL SHE GOVERNS THIS COUNTRY!!!

  • CAconservative

    Could the attack on Sarah Palin get any more childish?! This women probably hasn’t hunted since her teens but, by God we’re going to take apart her lack of hunting prowess by nitpicking every little detail that she forgot to fallow!! This isn’t a “who’s the master hunter show” is it? This crap is getting so shallow it has become redundantly, repugnant!!

  • Penguin60

    What a joke, why is anybody watching if they can’t stand her? Haven’t watched, never will.
    Heavily edited? I watched a hunt by a famous ” TV show hunter”. He passed up numerous high scoring whitetails till he took a monster. I have been lookng for a hunt in Ohio so I called the number of the outfitter listed on the show, it was a fenced in area. WTF?, that’s the last time I gave a shit about hunting shows on TV.

  • Just4thefax

    Fact: Sarah Palin has shot a gun unlike the liberal guns kill only people, Guns are bad crowd. On 12/11/2010 Go Navy beat Army!

  • Harry Flashman

    Penguin60 said:

    “I have been lookng for a hunt in Ohio so I called the number of the outfitter listed on the show, it was a fenced in area”

    Canned hunts suck. It’s not hunting, it’s killing. You may as well shoot the animals in a stall.

  • lane

    well, as long as some facebook posters say it, it must be true. Oh wait, that seems like a lazy and silly way to prove anything….

  • Penguin60

    The Real Royal King said:
    Cooking. Make-up. Dressing. English. Parenting.

    Anybody else see a truly sick individual? And you’re an authority on women’s dressing and makeup? Yikes!

    Harry Flashman said:
    Canned hunts suck. It’s not hunting, it’s killing. You may as well shoot the animals in a stall.

    Exactly, and this guy goes to sports shows and is touted as a “big hunter”, bullshit.

  • philipjames

    This just shows you how fkg stupid the Palin haters are.
    Sarah Palin could capture Osama Bin Laden or kill him and the left wing wackos and Palin haters would still find a way to criticize something she did in capturing or killing him.
    They would probably even prosecute her for doing it.
    Did Sarah Palin ever say she was the best hunter in the world? All she said is that every year either her or Todd or both and others go out and hung caribou and moose for food. Not for sport, but to eat.
    These so-called expert hunters doing the bitching were not there and as you say, there was editing done.

    What I find the most important thing to mention here is this…

    Since Sarah Palin was involved in all the editing of the episodes, I think it is pure Sarah Palin to leave in the whole sequence that shows her missing 4 times before taking the other rifle and downing the caribou in one shot.

    Do you really believe that any male in her position in politics, public eye, etc. would have left all of that in? they would have edited some of it out to preserve their ego or image. Sarah Palin missed 4 times, let us know that and doesn’t give a sh*t that you know it. That is how confident Sarah Palin is in herself, something we can’t say about any of the pussified male Republicans or Democrats we are stuck with now. So, whenever you think about Palin, don’t believe all the crap floating around out there… she is a real person and when the time comes, she will crush her opponents… nicely of course.

    That is the most important thing to take away from this sequence, not the bull crap about the picky little things.

  • Zakk

    Have you thought about renaming this site ‘I hate Sarah Palin and everything to do with the Palin family’?

  • Khyber Pass

    Poor Sarah. All these folks coming to her defense. She must be beating her kitchen wall that so many think she needs to be so defended so strenuously. It’s hard work being the leader of the free world and she’s ready for it, so why does she need to be defended by all these whining posters? Let her stand up for herself and if she comes to your door with a caribou rifle in her hand, welcome her in and offer her a burger and a beer and explain to her why you think she needs to be defended before she even gets into the race……who knows, she might even offer you a place on the team if you can rah-rah to her satisfaction……..Titanic sails soon, so be sure to compile your internet creds in case she wants your resume…….

  • Magister

    philipjames said:
    Since Sarah Palin was involved in all the editing of the episodes, I think it is pure Sarah Palin to leave in the whole sequence that shows her missing 4 times before taking the other rifle and downing the caribou in one shot.

    As I noted in response to a previous post about the show, there’s no Palin with a producer credit, so why do you think she had any say over editing. Maybe there’s a link somewhere that I haven’t seen, but unless something’s changed, it appears that she has no ownership of the show.

    Note: I’m actually asking because I’m curious. If it were me and if it was my name drawing viewers and if I had political ambitions, I’d demand a voice and a piece of the show.

  • Pablo

    BFD said:
    It appeared it was the first time she saw a live bear, the first time she went climbing, the first time she clubbed a fish….

    It was the first time she’d been halibut fishing and I don’t think there was any indication that she was supposed to be an experienced rock climber. But if you think you spend 46 years living in Alaska without ever seeing a live bear, you’re an idiot. Oh, wait. We knew that.

  • Pablo

    Magister said:
    As I noted in response to a previous post about the show, there’s no Palin with a producer credit, so why do you think she had any say over editing.

    Sarah is an executive producer, fwiw.

  • Atticus Draco

    OMG,, is anybody watchin’ Obama’s press confrence,,
    LOL
    He’s losin’ it!

  • Pablo

    Khyber Pass said:
    Poor Sarah. All these folks coming to her defense. She must be beating her kitchen wall that so many think she needs to be so defended so strenuously.

    She’s only defended so strenuously because she’s attacked so strenuously, and driving the Palin haters crazy(er?) is so damned much fun.

  • Pablo

    Atticus Draco said:
    OMG,, is anybody watchin’ Obama’s press confrence,,
    LOL
    He’s losin’ it!

    Yeah, that’s a hot mess. I thought that first reporter was going to break up with him right there.

  • BatBoy

    If it is wrong for a married man to love a married woman, then call me wrong, cause I love Sarah Palin.

    I love Sarah Palin because Hillery had to go to some left wing put who passed them off as hunting experts….come on Hillery, find a real hunter.

    I love Sarah Palin because she makes the left crazy….it ruins their day…it makes them hate.

    I love Sarah Palin because she continues to make the right people go mad.

    I love that woman.

  • Harry Flashman

    Pablo:

    “Yeah, that’s a hot mess. I thought that first reporter was going to break up with him right there.”

    Ha!!!!!!

  • Atticus Draco

    Pablo said:
    Yeah, that’s a hot mess. I thought that first reporter was going to break up with him right there.

    OMG,,, he was gettin’ pisst
    started pointing fingers and shit
    lol

  • Magister

    Pablo said:
    Sarah is an executive producer, fwiw.

    Thanks. She wasn’t listed on IMDB or the TLC site prior to the show’s first episode, which is when I made my previous comment and I assume that because she’s only credited with two, she must have been added after the pilot.

    As I said previously and above, I would’ve insisted on a producer’s credit and partial ownership, so it’s good to see that she didn’t just turn her life over to others for their interpretation and get rich scheme.

  • Pablo

    Scott_in_MI said:
    I understand why the libs are criticizing the hunter/Palin. Its because she’s more of a man than they are. She intimidates you.

    The inimitable Zombie takes that notion to 11 and back: Sarah, She Wolf of the GOP.

  • Atticus Draco

    Atticus Draco said:
    Pablo said:
    Yeah, that’s a hot mess. I thought that first reporter was going to break up with him right there.

    OMG,,, he was gettin’ pisst
    started pointing fingers and shit
    lol

    lol,, tell me that guy aint uptight!!!!

    “Yeah the GOPO is kickin’ my ass,,, what do you want me to do about it,, we’ll get ‘em later”
    HA!

  • Pablo

    From The Awl post:

    While much of the debate around the episode is an ethical one about a millionaire shooting a defenseless animal so as not to have to pay for meat, the real conversation should be about how the episode absolutely exposes Palin as a charade.

    OK, that’s just dopey, Abe. How is there an ethical question? Is an animal whose meat you buy and less dead than the animal you hunt? Is there some ethical wealth limit for hunting now? How about fishing? Can Bill Gates catch fish and eat them, or is he an asshole for not buying them instead?

  • Pablo

    For starters, Palin and pa head out on a long hunt without bothering to sight in Palin’s rifle, a mistake no serious hunter would ever make.

    Yeah, OK. Chuck Heath, whose house looks like nature’s spare parts crib, isn’t really a hunter either. Hell, I’ll bet they don’t even live in Alaska, amirite, Abe?

  • Khyber Pass

    Pablo said:
    She’s only defended so strenuously because she’s attacked so strenuously, and driving the Palin haters crazy(er?) is so damned much fun.

    Nah..we women just know a bi—,.you know what, when we see one. First time i saw that one on tv I knew I wouldn’t want to ever live next to her. Men –and some women–are so easily distracted by the boldness of woman who don’t give dip what anyone thinks of them….they must think she’s speaking just to them……lookiing them in the eye ………..while getting ready to poke it out with a sharp stick, is more like it. She will let you down boys and would-be boys….cause she’s a taker and taking is her business and her love….when she’s through taking your money and your love she’ll toss you aside like an old piece of trash……………don’t cry to a progressive woman when you are jilted, big man……she won’t want you either……..

  • Penguin60

    Spoken like a someone with experience, that and a lot of projection. It’s quite amusing to watch the haters, new shit everyday.

  • Pablo

    Khyber Pass said:
    Nah..we women just know a bi—,.you know what, when we see one. First time i saw that one on tv I knew I wouldn’t want to ever live next to her. Men –and some women–are so easily distracted by the boldness of woman who don’t give dip what anyone thinks of them….they must think she’s speaking just to them……lookiing them in the eye ………..while getting ready to poke it out with a sharp stick, is more like it. She will let you down boys and would-be boys….cause she’s a taker and taking is her business and her love….when she’s through taking your money and your love she’ll toss you aside like an old piece of trash……………don’t cry to a progressive woman when you are jilted, big man……she won’t want you either……..

    Someone better tell Todd, her husband of 22 years, before she breaks his heart.

  • writer

    Like his idols, Bruno and Perez Hilton, the King has become Mediaite’s go to guy in all things concerning womens’ fashions. Next up: how to accessorize for any occasion.

  • Phocus2

    God, Hillary Busis is boring.

  • Elaine B

    Could we get FOX entertainment to give us at least 4 more Palin alerts a day? Their so informative and important to know. I don’t know how we could survive with out them!

  • Khyber Pass

    “Someone better tell Todd, her husband of 22 years, before she breaks his heart.”

    Not to worry, Pablito…..He knows where the bodies are buried and that’s a stronger string tying two people together than you can imagine.

    And Penguin, women know each other, we learn from the experience of others, unlike the right wingers who can’t learn……

    Sarah is not worth the hating….hate just hurts the heart and soul of those who hate……but by the time you figure this out it most likely will be too late for you.

    Now, go play with your little minded friends. You are too boring to hang out with……….I prefer people who don’t talk potty mouth….. you know, like you children……

  • writer

    Abe, it’s like this. Who gives a shit?

  • snatchax

    while it’s generally recommended to not place your finger on the trigger until you’re ready to fire, experienced and/or responsible hunters do this all the time in case the animal spooks – you want to be ready. it is mainly advice given to novice hunters for the safety of those around them. it is probably best to follow the advice, but it is absurd to link the act with inexperience.

  • Penguin60

    Khyber Pass said:
    And Penguin, women know each other, we learn from the experience of others, unlike the right wingers who can’t learn……

    Most people learn from their own experiences. You know so much from what? A TV show, a few speeches? Idiot remarks from haters? I don’t even remotely think that I can read what’s in another’s heart. You libs think you can. Tell me what’s in Joy Behar’s heart besides hate?

  • Helix

    BFD said:
    Not if I was on a boat! lol

    FYI, all bears can swim. Ever seen a bear eat a salmon? The real question is how fast you can start the motor, or how fast you can row….and for how long. A tree is also another poor choice of refuge from a bear as well.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dronetek-Bulk-Vanderhuge/100000918732763 Dronetek

    Jesus fuck, you people need help. I don’t know if you noticed but there is an inexperienced ignoramus in the white house right now.

  • Mr.Papshmer

    Dronetek said:
    Jesus fuck, you people need help. I don’t know if you noticed but there is an inexperienced ignoramus in the white house right now.

    I remember during the campaign, the hip thing for the lefties to drone on about was how Palin would be one heart attack away from the presidency. Yeah, we’re lucky we averted that and wound up with puffy vag that’s there now.

  • writer

    That guy’s criticizing Palin for not knowing how to hunt? Hell, Obama spent twenty years listening to Rev. Wright, and was still unaware of anything he’d said.

  • Socialist

    if all these dumb media ignores Sarah Palin, she will just dissappear from spotlight. If she isn’t that good of a hunter, then she isn’t a good hunter.. time to leave this story and talk about real issues..

  • BatBoy

    Socialist said:
    If she isn’t that good of a hunter, then she isn’t a good hunter..

    She is a good hunter Socialist.

    She showed what Hunting was all about.

    These guys that dress up in their hunting gear, climb up in a tree and wait for a deer to walk by to shoot are “Ambusher”… not hunters.

  • david r

    Who gives a damn ? Can’t we go a day without a story about this family ?

  • timcajun

    The guy pointing out she is a fake and fraud (nooo), couldn’t be a liberal, because liberals hate guns and don’t know how to use them! We know Holder and Obama are taking our guns away so she won’t be able to hunt much longer! Palin can’t even play hillbillies sh*t kicker well! That should be easy for her!

  • SarahP

    Sarah Palin a phony?! Nooooooo! LMAO!!

  • JJ Vachon

    Do you really think she killed that animal to feed her family? She did it for sport and for the glory of killing! WTF? She seemed to get a nice ‘buzz’ from it too! The lady has millions. She doesn’t need to kill — unless that’s what she enjoys doing!

  • BFD

    JJ Vachon said:
    She did it for sport and for the glory of killing!

    Actually, it’s worse than that…

    She did it for ratings and votes.

  • Mr.Papshmer

    JJ Vachon said:
    Do you really think she killed that animal to feed her family? She did it for sport and for the glory of killing! WTF? She seemed to get a nice ‘buzz’ from it too! The lady has millions. She doesn’t need to kill — unless that’s what she enjoys doing!

    I don’t need to hunt, I don’t need to fish, I don’t need to do a lot of things. However, it’s important that I know how to be self sufficient, and to pass that on to my kids. At some point, Rome will fall. I’m not rooting for that to happen, but I see more and more lazy assholes voting themselves a portion of my wallet. When the shit actually hits the fan, there will be those who are self sufficient, and there will be those who starve or are shot in the act of theft.

    You also might be very surprised at the money you can save.

    By the way, what’s with that totally fucking weird graphic?

  • Eric

    So Sarah Palin is full of shit – and she’s a phony? Then why do all these dumb people follow her around like she’s God? Oh, I forgot, they’re all real dumb just like her.

  • http://crazyconservative.wordpress.com/ jamesalfred

    Antony Dupuy said:
    Oh dear stupid…does it end…DOES IT EVER END? What is it about Sarah Palin that has the left constantly CONSTANTLY CONSTANTLY OBSESSING OVER EVERY SINGLE LITTLE THING SHE DOES? Obama doesn’t control the left. Pelosi nor Reid controls the left. Its Sarah Palin. And they’re Pavlov’s nutbags.

    Sadly I don’t think it ever will end. And, nut bags is about the best way I can describe Palin haters. They hate her so much they even call her kids every name in the book as was the case during DWTS.

    Liberal hatred for the Palins is tragic, sad, and pathetic, I tell my kids not to behave this way when adults all around to it daily.

    http://crazyconservative.wordpress.com/

  • http://crazyconservative.wordpress.com/ jamesalfred

    Pablo said:
    She’s only defended so strenuously because she’s attacked so strenuously, and driving the Palin haters crazy(er?) is so damned much fun.

    DITO. Love anything that gets lib panties all bunched up.

  • http://crazyconservative.wordpress.com/ jamesalfred

    Dronetek said:
    Jesus fuck, you people need help. I don’t know if you noticed but there is an inexperienced ignoramus in the white house right now.

    Yes, they need help. Sarah Palin might not be my first choice for president but she could not be worse than who we have now. Hell, I am certain that I could do a better job, as long as my dog was my VP.

    http://crazyconservative.wordpress.com/

  • OxyCon

    I’m a level 99 expert huntsman, and after examaning the video of Sarah Palin, I can only conclude that Sarah Palin found the prey, aimed the gun, pulled the trigger and killed the prey, which makes her also an expert hunter.

  • sarainitaly

    “Palin also drew derision for asking, “Does it kick?” after being handed a rifle. “‘does the rifle kick’ what kind of a question is that? Doesn’t matter if it kicks or not you shoot it the same. That was a girly question momma griz,” said another commenter.”

    – Total BS. Of course it matters whether the rifle kicks or not. If you noticed, one gun she shot did kick, and one not. You have to be prepared for the kick, as any hunter with a scar between their eyes, will tell you.

    “No one who is a true hunter lets others carry their rifle or can’t load their own shells. Sarah, you are a phony in this area of your ’skills.’”

    – Also BS. That’s what PH’s do. They get your guns ready while you are shooting. Looked and sounded like her scope was off.

    “Why Palin, an admitted “moose hunter,” would not question such a gun’s appropriateness is never answered.”

    – She is a hunter, not a professional hunter. Again, total BS.

    “regarding the wearing of orange. As former Governor of the state, Palin should know that Alaska’s policy is that “Upland and big game hunters are strongly recommended to wear Hunter Orange.”

    – I have seen many hunts in Alaska, with PH’s, and have never seen them wearing orange.

    From Hannity forum, about the actual show:

    If you had tuned in a bit earlier, you’d have seen her dad take a tumble while caring the gun she used. He must have knocked the scope out of alignment.

    Since her dad couldn’t even hit a paper plate with it at 50yds when they got back to camp obviously the gun had some serious issues.

    Of course when the other guy handed her his rifle, it was a one shot kill.

    “While much of the debate around the episode is an ethical one about a millionaire shooting a defenseless animal so as not to have to pay for meat”

    – Does he think meat only comes from the grocery store already wrapped in cellophane? What about all those *defenseless* cows who live in confined spaces and are then slaughtered?

    This is just more of the typical PDS. I have seen excellent hunters miss shots, have scopes that were off, and have injured their prey, and had track it for miles. I’ve also seen countless scenarios where PH’s prep guns, carry extra guns, and pass hunters new guns.

    They’re hatin’ just to hate.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    JJ Vachon said:
    Do you really think she killed that animal to feed her family? She did it for sport and for the glory of killing! WTF? She seemed to get a nice ‘buzz’ from it too! The lady has millions. She doesn’t need to kill — unless that’s what she enjoys doing!

    I guess you didn’t watch the show.

  • Cedarswamp

    For the morons( yes you Abe Sauer) that think every hunter knows how to handle a weapon, spend a day at the range the week before the opener, then get back to us.

  • sarainitaly

    JJ Vachon said:
    Do you really think she killed that animal to feed her family? She did it for sport and for the glory of killing! WTF? She seemed to get a nice ‘buzz’ from it too! The lady has millions. She doesn’t need to kill — unless that’s what she enjoys doing!

    So, rich people don’t eat? What does it matter if her meat comes from the butcher or from the wild? Wild meat is better – no hormones, no additives, and the animals aren’t confined to tiny living spaces until the day they are slaughtered.

  • WarEagle01

    I’m surprised that hunters would criticize Palin. I usually think of hunters as being somewhat manly, tough guys. Pretty much the opposite of your average Democrat beta male (but then I repeat myself). Anyway, no not everyone brings their own rifle on a hunt. I travel to hunt and if the guide has a decent weapon (and they always do) then I use their’s instead of risking my own by bringing it on an airplane. Also, the rifle she was using got knocked out of alignment. It happens, especially when hiking around all day. As for the varmint rifle comment. Not sure what constitutes a varmint rifle in Alaska. Usually for coyotes and other varmint it’s something like a .223 or .222. But, I could also see someone using a .243 or .270 for varmints. Either of those could easily take down a caribou. I just killed an elk a few weeks ago with a .270 and elk are much larger than caribou. Palin did make a serious mistake by putting her finger on the trigger with the safety off. But then again, the old Alaska hand Becker who handed it to her in that state make a big mistake also in handing her a weapon in an unsafe condition. Other than that I just don’t see much to criticize about this. She obviously has shot before. She claims to have hunted moose and caribou before, but that doesn’t mean she is some sort of expert hunter, especially if she goes out with her dad or husband most of the time. They tell her what to shoot and she shoots it. Happens all the time on guided hunts. Very little skill actually required of the hunter.

  • WHarropson

    Aren’t you glad she doesn’t know squat about hunting? She is a beautiful woman that appreciates and promotes hunting, Her husband is lucky. I’ll ditto others above who are saying, “get a life.” and it wouldn’t be a bad idea to keep the finger off the trigger as well. Bang.

  • sarainitaly

    WarEagle01 said:
    I’m surprised that hunters would criticize Palin.

    my guess is those criticizing her aren’t really hunters.

  • Mr.Papshmer

    WarEagle01 said:
    As for the varmint rifle comment. Not sure what constitutes a varmint rifle in Alaska.

    CZ makes a 550 American “varmint” chambered for .308, which has ballistics very similar to a 30-06. (same exact bullet, shorter case but more efficient powder since the latter was introduced)

    Typically, you think of a “varmint” rifle as a .223 or perhaps a 22-250. My own coyote rifle is a .243, which is more than capable of dropping a caribou if I were to load 100gr bullets rather then the 65gr v-max I load for coyote. Caribou just aren’t that big.

  • Bronco46

    For God’s sake can’t we please give this a rest. You can’t watch one clip from a TV show a pretend to know all their is to know about someone’s ability at anything.
    All Mrs. Palin has said is she enjoys hunting. I enjoy hunting too, but I wouldn’t want to be filmed doing it, if it was going to be examined under a magnifying glass. She hunts for fun That’s why her dad was there to help.
    If you want to see professional hunters and fisherman making mistakes just check youtube it’s loaded with them.
    The purpose of this show is to show the beauty of Alaska, and allow Mrs. Palin who is the states most famous resident to show us around.
    So give it a rest. Your constant criticism is getting tiresome.

  • Bronco46

    There is no hard a fast definition of a varmint guns. Typically though they are smaller calibre. Varmint guns aren’t typically of a calibre greater then .243 to .257, even though both those weapons are capable of downing much larger animals.

  • esd2000

    You people keep picking on her she’s just gonna have to figure a way to blame this on Obama. That’s her favorite thing to do.

  • NdN541

    I was born and raised on a NDN reservation and became a hunter very early in my life, not for sport or pleasure, but to provide. Way back in the day, 70′s 80′s 90′s, unemployment being around 60-70% was not unusal on the reservation and at times I hunted for many families. I was pretty successful, some would say an expert, but to me being known as a “good hunter” was enough compliment. I knew if I was unsuccessful, someone would end up going hungry, there weren’t very many times I was unsuccessful.

    After watching Sarah Palin all I can say is I’d never take her on a hunt with me…unless it was for amusement or pleasure….hahahahahaha. She appears to be, in reservation terms, a phony white-woman. A fake hunter, or for-the-camera’s hunter. There is a post mentioning something about this “hunt” being a fenced-in controlled “hunt.” For those of you that don’t know what this is, it’s almost self-explainitory. People that offer this type of “hunt” raise animals for only one purpose and one purpose only. To be killed. The animals raised are almost domesticated like house hold pets. This is evident with the six misses that Sarah Palin first shot., the animal stood there and stood there AND stood there. The most amusing part of this “hunt” to me is after each miss, someone had to reach over and jack another round in the chamber for “Sarah-the-hunter.” No self-respecting hunter would ever ever allow this. Also, no matter any of the excuses post here, no self-respecting hunter would ever go on a hunt without their own weapon. And then asking once handed a weapon, “Does it kick?’ To me this is a dead give away of not being a very good hunter, or probably not a hunter at all. Having to ask this question indicates to me she doesn’t know jack about calibers. Or bullet loads, or grain, or basically anything. And to top it off, to miss at a distance of 40 to 50 yards is almost unbelievable, then exchange weapons and score a instant kill hit with the first shot? Something doesn’t add up. Any experienced hunter knows that the way the animal was positioned it presented a very difficult shot. Only chance of a instant kill shot in this positiion would be a shot to the heart or a shot between the eyes. Only other more difficult shot I can think of is a going-away-head-shot. I believe this shot was edited, a dead give away to me is the reticle camera shot then the actual shot itself. Trick photography if you ask me.

    I don’t believe Sarah Palin is anykind of hunter and I’d give her awhole lot more respect if she’d admit it, rather than claiming to be something she’s not.

    I guess this “hunt” could have been worse…she could have shot someone in the face like that tub-of-lard, fat-ass, lying, fck-yourself, warrant-in-Nigeria Dick Cheney.

  • Nick

    Scott_in_MI said:
    If I seen a Grizzle for the first time, i’d high-tail it out of there. If you’re truthful with yourself, I’m sure you’d admit that you would do the same.

    Pussy.

    Scott_in_MI said:
    Whatever. You’d be in Juno in two seconds…probably crying like a bitch

    After admitting you would in fact high-tail in out of there….like a bitch. I respect the power of a bear, but I’m not afraid of one, I have this strange condition they refer to as being a “man” though. You should try it sometime.

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