Truly magnificent speech and memorial all around. All speakers did the victims proud.

And what a sight it must have been to witness the miracle of Rep. Giffords opening her eyes. God continues to hold her.

Let us all act in a way that would honor those we lost. It’s the least we can do.

Hopefully Tommy Christopher was listening and hopefully he decides to break away from his personal vendetta against Sarah Palin for, oh, a day or two.

Looked more like a DNC convention.

Sarah Palin couldn’t ever unite people the way President Obama did tonight.

“President Obama Pleas For Discourse”

Does that mean he will not require Republicans ride in the back of the buss.

Great Memorial. Gret Speech.

Great speech by President Obama and Governor Brewer. The rest was disappointing. I expected a memorial and it was pep rally. First time I ever heard President Obama represent all his people as a president should. He did a good job. I was disappointed they didn’t talk about the other heros.

I’ll take hopey changey over bloody libelly any day of the week.

watching lawerence odonnell right now, sad to say but it looks like shit is going to stay the same

stoogedudes said:
Let us all act in a way that would honor those we lost. It’s the least we can do.

Yeah, this whole discourse has been way out of hand….and both sides just continue to fuel the fire.

Obama gets blamed for the cheering in 3, 2, 1…….mark.

Good speech by Obama. Brewer did good.

The question is will Obama learn from this? Or will he go back to his Alinsky tactics designed to undermine and hurt people?

In the past, he said things like this:

“If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun” Barack Obama 6-14-2008.
“I want you to argue with them and get in their face.” Barack Obama 9-17-2008
“They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back” Barack Obama 10-25-2010
‘We’re gonna punish our enemies and we’re gonna reward our friends . . .” Barack Obama 10-25-2010

Will he grow?

TtT said:
Gabby opened her eyes.
Let the healing for all of us begin

Hello

Alz said:
The question is will Obama learn from this? Or will he go back to his Alinsky tactics designed to undermine and hurt people?

Will you learn from this or continue to hate America because they voted for a man against your liking?

It’s moments like these that renew my faith in the American people.

But at a time when our discourse has become so sharply polarized – at a time when we are far too eager to lay the blame for all that ails the world at the feet of those who think differently than we do – it’s important for us to pause for a moment and make sure that we are talking with each other in a way that heals, not a way that wounds.
But what we can’t do is use this tragedy as one more occasion to turn on one another.

This was a great part of the speech, but it’s a little hard to believe it’s sincere when he didn’t speak out against what is going on until now.

Having said that, I sincerely wish the victims and their families all of the peace our Heavenly Father has to offer. They are in my prayers.

A Kim bo says:

Will you learn from this or continue to hate America because they voted for a man against your liking?

For once, just put a sock in it.

timzank said:
Looked more like a DNC convention.

That’s kind of funny since Boehner turned down a seat on Air Force One to the memorial. He had to host a RNC cocktail party. He’s not one to turn down a cocktail party no matter what else is happening.

bealzebubba said:
Yeah, this whole discourse has been way out of hand….and both sides just continue to fuel the fire. Obama gets blamed for the cheering in 3, 2, 1…….mark.

Yes… it is truly repulsive for someone to be blamed for something they were not responsible for. Truly sick to do such a vile, repulsive, hateful, gutless, opportunistic thing as point fingers.

nope, nothing is changing

Publius219 said:
Sarah Palin couldn’t ever unite people the way President Obama did tonight.

Stay classy…

http://michellemalkin.com/2011/01/12/branding-the-tuscon-massacre-together-we-thrive-in-white-and-blue/

1. Obama’s speech was good. But 4 days of silence while his media whores blame Palin and the right says plenty. I’m betting the tone will change come SOTU.
2 .Audience was another story. It was wellstone-light. Not the actions for a memorial IMO. I know people like the narrative of “celebrating a life”, but now is not the time for standing ovations, cheering or loud applause IMO. There is a time for that, just not so soon.

Wonderful inspiring speech.I hope this memorial tonight helped the grieving families.All of this was so sad but my goodness the little 9 year old.I could never even imagine having to deal with that.I wish peace to all the people involved.

Alz said:
The question is will Obama learn from this? Or will he go back to his Alinsky tactics designed to undermine and hurt people?

Maybe he will. But Palin’s 8min rant today shows she hasn’t learned a damn thing. She hardly even talked about the real victims of the shooting. All she talked about was how much of a victim she is. Her political career is over, done with, caput.

@ Kim Bo, & Real John

While you complain about the right-wing disliking Obama (because disagreement is unpatriotic when it’s ‘your guy’ in office), you go ahead and do the opposite of what he called for, just minutes ago.

So the question is, do you REALLY support this guy? And if so, why such obvious disregard for his comments?

Moderate said:
“President Obama Pleas For Discourse” Does that mean he will not require Republicans ride in the back of the buss.

That is a good one Moderate, maybe just maybe we will be allowed on the first sit behind the All mighty. It was a good speech tonight but my guess is we will be pushed to the back of the bus again after a few weeks have gone by.

Hey John,
Would you see if you can get a comment on the speech from Mark (Obama needs his own OK City) Penn? I’d like his opinion on how it went. Now plug the darn hole!

the real john t said:
That’s kind of funny since Boehner turned down a seat on Air Force One to the memorial. He had to host a RNC cocktail party. He’s not one to turn down a cocktail party no matter what else is happening.

link please. not that i don’t trust you of course.

Jay Velez said:
.Audience was another story. It was wellstone-light. Not the actions for a memorial IMO. I know people like the narrative of “celebrating a life”, but now is not the time for standing ovations, cheering or loud applause IMO. There is a time for that, just not so soon.

If you get a chance check out the round table after the speech at Fox.

Bret, Chris, Brit and Krauthammenr gave an outstanding analysis. They all commented fully on that aspect that you raised.

Well seems like the brick Obama threw out into the crowd tonight caught a bunch of you conservatives right upside the head, I know you feel battered and bruised…..Hang in there champ. Palin and her BLOOD LIBEL brand of politics will be in charge in 2012…hehehehehehe. now just rehoster your firearms and leave the political arena slowly OBAMAS IN CHARGE…to many of you wingnuts are going to jail for your threats of violence…remember idiots …..CONVICTED FELONS CANT VOTE…..we dont want a dumbass to have the nuclear codes OK….you’re not taking back your country, you’re not gonna get off a shot….now be good little wingnutts and wingnuttettes AND GO AWAY, YOU CANT BEAT OBAMA

ROCKSTEADY said:
Wonderful inspiring speech.I hope this memorial tonight helped the grieving families.All of this was so sad but my goodness the little 9 year old.I could never even imagine having to deal with that.I wish peace to all the people involved.

Well said!

the real john t said:
Maybe he will. But Palin’s 8min rant today shows she hasn’t learned a damn thing. She hardly even talked about the real victims of the shooting. All she talked about was how much of a victim she is. Her political career is over, done with, caput.

How dare someone defends themselves against being accused of contributing to a mass murder and having blood on her hands.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
For once, just put a sock in it.

Put a sock in the Saul Alinsky, the President is INSINCERE BS. We’ve seen a stark contrast between the person you support and the person you HATE and live in perpetual irrational fear of SUPPORTS. The contrast is vast ans says more about your poor judge of character than anything.

ProObamaAgenda said:
Well seems like the brick Obama threw out into the crowd tonight caught a bunch of you conservatives right upside the head, I know you feel battered and bruised…..Hang in there champ. Palin and her BLOOD LIBEL brand of politics will be in charge in 2012…hehehehehehe. now just rehoster your firearms and leave the political arena slowly OBAMAS IN CHARGE…to many of you wingnuts are going to jail for your threats of violence…remember idiots …..CONVICTED FELONS CANT VOTE…..we dont want a dumbass to have the nuclear codes OK….you’re not taking back your country, you’re not gonna get off a shot….now be good little wingnutts and wingnuttettes AND GO AWAY, YOU CANT BEAT OBAMA

You are part of the problem.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Hey John,
Would you see if you can get a comment on the speech from Mark (Obama needs his own OK City) Penn? I’d like his opinion on how it went. Now plug the darn hole!

Go find it yourself ignorant one. I’m not here to serve the likes of you, idiot.

A kim bo, have you met John? I think you two would make a fabulous couple!

No one has ever doubted the man can make a speech. That is all he’s ever done. He has never stopped campaigning and neither have his supporters. That’s why they are so full of attacks. At every opportunity. They attacked Palin for being silent about the massacre, and then when she did speak out, they parsed through her speech and found something to bitch about (“blood libel’). I’m not a supporter of Sarah Palin, but I’d vote for Willow Palin before that empty suit Obama. He stands for nothing other than his own preening image. I don’t hate him. I just don’t like him.

timzank said:
link please

I’m not sure if there is a link.He only went(is what they said on CNN ) because this RNC meeting was planned for months people comming from all over.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
A kim bo, have you met John? I think you two would make a fabulous couple!

LOL!

Definitely a match made in hell.

An aide close to Sarah Palin says death threats and security threats have increased to an unprecedented level since the shooting in Arizona, and the former Alaska governor’s team has been talking to security professionals.

The left ladies and gents!! Who exactly it promoting hate again?

stoogedudes says:
January 12, 2011 at 10:06 pm stoogedudes(Quote)
Thumbs up: 14 Thumbs down: 7

ROCKSTEADY says:
January 12, 2011 at 10:33 pm ROCKSTEADY(Quote)
Thumbs up: 4 Thumbs down: 7

What Rocksteady and I said were apolitical, and yet we still get thumbs down. Really? And on top of that, after a speech like that which was given earlier, the memories of those lost are dishonored by the nasty commentary that is spoken on this site. If a night like tonight can’t unite us, nothing can. The President’s speech and the actions of the heros made me so proud of America and hopeful for its future. The comments here make me fear for it.

I think all the speakers struck the perfect tone. The thing I found somewhat odd was the pep rally feel. I don’t know if it was due to the large number of students less connected with the tragedy clammoring to see the president but I was surprised by the continuous applause sometimes at odd moments. Other than that it was exactly what it should have been.

ROCKSTEADY said:
I’m not sure if there is a link.He only went(is what they said on CNN ) because this RNC meeting was planned for months people comming from all over.

Here it is:

http://www.rollcall.com/news/-202400-1.html

No big deal.

timzank said:
link please. not that i don’t trust you of course

http://www.rollcall.com/news/-202400-1.html

“A Boehner aide said the Speaker “made it clear to the White House all along that he would be in the House today” and that the president’s “last-minute invite was a courtesy” because the White House knew Boehner was going to stay in Washington, D.C.”

The crazy Indian opening act was inappropriate as was the loony student crowd reaction. It seems that the students thought this was a adore Obama night.

Obama attempted a good speech but the student ruined it.

The libs just can’t do anything without making it political just like the Wellstone memorial. This was a disservice to the dead and Giffords.

The shooting had NOTHING to do with “civil discourse”, a divided nation, getting along, talk radio or Sarah Palin. Liberals just can’t resist giving lectures about their loony ideas about things that did not happen.

Grammie said:
Well said!

Thank you Grammie.

Someone tell me they didn’t really pass out t-shirts at the memorial?

Alz said:
Will he grow?

One thing is for sure, you haven’t.

Not for nothing Grammie, but I can really give less of a damn what Fox News says. Like I have stated, I have no problem with the speech, but a real problem with the atmosphere IMO. Fox News lost me tonight as a viewer (it had nothing to do with the speech critique) just the way business is run there.

Where ya’ll think Obozo would have been tonight if it had been a Republican in Utah instead of Dem in Arizona?

Yeah, Teh One just ooooozes sincerity.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Someone tell me they didn’t really pass out t-shirts at the memorial?

Yep… sure did.

@Pro

I guess Pro (along with Kim and John) weren’t really listening to the speech, huh?

The Donger said:
The thing I found somewhat odd was the pep rally feel.

As I told another here Fox had a great round up and addressed that aspect of the event completely.

I just checked but the video isn’t up yet.

Ok, I was trying to bite my tongue, but after seeing the t-shirts, I have 2 words, Paul Wellstone. That was a BAD idea.

A Kim Bo said:
Will you learn from this or continue to hate America because they voted for a man against your liking?

I love the US. I despise liberalism – not liberals, but liberalism. It’s our biggest threat and has been for many scores of years.

Much of America DID vote for Obama, but it was under false pretenses. People assumed Obama would be working to heal and make things better. Instead, he has been a huge divider and he has worked to make things “equal”, not better.

People have figured it out and that’s why the Democrats lost something like 400 years of Congressional experience and 700+ State seats back in November.

Tonights speech was good, but time will tell if he has changed.

timzank said:
link please. not that i don’t trust you of course.

Here you go. See I’ll back up what I say unlike you.

http://republicanifi.com/news/Boehner-turns-down-Air-Force-One-ride-to-Tucson-1533783.html

To all my republican friends. I will honor the Presidents request. It is time we all stand together as Americans. I will disagree with you on some policies, but I will no longer be disrespectful. All of us here need to do the same. Thanks for reading this post.

the real john t said:
Maybe he will. But Palin’s 8min rant today shows she hasn’t learned a damn thing. She hardly even talked about the real victims of the shooting. All she talked about was how much of a victim she is. Her political career is over, done with, caput.

I disagree. It was good for her to respond to the liberal hate.Maybe you forget, but she never inserted herself into this, the liberals did.

As for her career, I think she’ll do just fine.

Jay Velez said:
Not for nothing Grammie, but I can really give less of a damn what Fox News says. Like I have stated, I have no problem with the speech

Neither did they.

The gist was that the student crowd was behaving from the beginning in a rah rah rally way but that BHO not only handled it but did so brilliantly.

Believe, I don’t do them justice but its so loss if you object to them.

gordonbloyershow said:
The crazy Indian opening act was inappropriate

No it wasn’t this was his religion this was his way of blessing and praying for us all.Just because he didn’t read a Bible verse or quote scriptures does not mean it wasn’t a prayer.

John, I wouldn’t be bragging, I had to correct 3 of your lies on Sunday. Just sayin.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
A kim bo, have you met John? I think you two would make a fabulous couple!

Have you met Jared Loughner? You two have a lot in common. You’d make a fabulous couple.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
John, I wouldn’t be bragging, I had to correct 3 of your lies on Sunday.

You didn’t correct anything you stupid idiot.

CNN reported that the T-shirts were handed out by a group of college kids.

I have lost an immediate family member in a tragic way as I am sure some of you have as well. But, it is always hard for me to watch people that really didn’t even know the victims, talk about them as if they knew them and trying to act sincere in what they are saying. I am not questioning anything, not my place. It’s just always a weird feeling for me.

Understand why the AZ gvt officials were there, but why a lot of the Fed gvt officials?

And I hope I don’t offend anyone with this remark, but the only people that Obama needs to be preaching to about civility is the politicians and the media. I’ve had it with both.

It was a great speech. At the beginning I felt a little uncomfortable with the cheering crowd at such a somber occasion but the president kept a somber demeanor and delivered a speech that combined solemnity with inspiration. He also showed some of the emotion that has been missing in so many of his teleprompter delivered addressees we have become used to over the past two years.

The bottom line, the president rose to the occasion and gave both the folks in Tucson and the nation what we all needed from our president, leadership.

timzank said:
Where ya’ll think Obozo would have been tonight if it had been a Republican in Utah instead of Dem in Arizona? Yeah, Teh One just ooooozes sincerity.

Do you really think he would have treated something like that differently if it were a Republican in Utah? I know you don’t have a high opinion of Obama, but jeez!

gordonbloyershow said:
The shooting had NOTHING to do with “civil discourse”, a divided nation, getting along, talk radio or Sarah Palin

I’m pretty sure that Pres. Obama said as much. Of course I listened to his speech, apparently unlike you. Your loss.

timzank said:
Where ya’ll think Obozo would have been tonight if it had been a Republican in Utah instead of Dem in Arizona? Yeah, Teh One just ooooozes sincerity.

Why would you think he would not be there if it was.A republican Judge Died.My god these all were just people who died or were wounded not just Demorcrates or Republican.These people were all AMERICANS.

armwood said:
It was a great speech. At the beginning I felt a little uncomfortable with the cheering crowd at such a somber occasion but the president kept a somber demeanor and delivered a speech that combined solemnity with inspiration. He also showed some of the emotion that has been missing in so many of his teleprompter delivered addressees we have become used to over the past two years.

The bottom line, the president rose to the occasion and gave both the folks in Tucson and the nation what we all needed from our president, leadership.

Agreed.

We’ll see if he can give up the Alinsky tactics and his divisiveness. People will be watching.

Alz said:
I love the US. I despise liberalism

There you go spreading hate again!

w_t_f said:
CNN reported that the T-shirts were handed out by a group of college kids.

Yes, I saw that, they also said the School set the Venue and the Tone. It was not meant to be somber, but more of a celebration of life type venue. I thought The President did a great job along with all of the speakers. More of a 21st Century memorial Service.

gordonbloyershow said:
Liberals just can’t resist giving lectures about their loony ideas about things that did not happen.

Just like you just did in your stupid ass rantings in your comment?

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Someone tell me they didn’t really pass out t-shirts at the memorial?

They were placed on the seats

http://i.azcentral.com/commphotos/view/442818.jpg

This guys a piece of work.

Actually 80% of the American people reject Palin as a potential leader. She’s far more unpopular than Gabrielle Giffords so claiming that it is only those on the Left who hate her is disingenuous. Maybe they’re people who don’t her

Alz said:
I love the US. I despise liberalism

You love America, you just hate half the people in it. You’re a real patriot, I see.

Alz said:
t’s our biggest threat and has been for many scores of years.

Actually the biggest threats to fake conservatives is their continued support of failed neocon policies and an ever-increasing brain dead leadership. The FAKE CONSERVATIVES are the Right’s biggest enemy.

Alz said:
Much of America DID vote for Obama, but it was under false pretenses

Yes he fooled the world with his intelligence and insight and contemplation of the issues that plague us. And apparently the power that plagues us most, according to Palin and those on the Right, is that the Right is being unfairly persecuted for their knowingly overblown rhetoric.

Spare us about the DIVISIONS BS. You’ve been spewing the rhetoric of every major divider this country has scraped from the bottom of the primordial ooze with nearly everyone of your posts.

You can’t have it both ways. You can’t claim that OBAMA is the divider and then upchuck the words of those who have said blatantly that his failure is their prime objective.

Now go back to your Joseph Goebbels rhetoric because we know you won’t change.

cmdrgmh said:
Yes, I saw that, they also said the School set the Venue and the Tone. It was not meant to be somber, but more of a celebration of life type venue. I thought The President did a great job along with all of the speakers. More of a 21st Century memorial Service.

Yes and they also talked to people in the community that said they felt they needed this type of celebration of life atmosphere to move on to the road of healing.

ImRubberYoureGlue said:
Please suck Obama’s dick behind closed doors. We do not need to see that.

I’m so sure.How sad you felt you needed to say that.

w_t_f said:
I’m pretty sure that Pres. Obama said as much. Of course I listened to his speech, apparently unlike you. Your loss.

He ATTEMPTED to say as much but he didn’t. He still mentioned civil discourse didn’t he?

timzank said:
They were placed on the seats http://i.azcentral.com/commphotos/view/442818.jpg This guys a piece of work.

Automatically Obama? It was the college students.

gordonbloyershow said:
He ATTEMPTED to say as much but he didn’t. He still mentioned civil discourse didn’t he?

And he said that the blame game had to stop and had no place in this tragedy. Not his words but meant as much.

w_t_f said:
Yes and they also talked to people in the community that said they felt they needed this type of celebration of life atmosphere to move on to the road of healing.

“President Obama used to preach that there was no “Red America” and no “Blue America,” just one America.

But tonight at the memorial for the Tucson massacre victims, it will be a sea of blue as the White House unveils the “Together We Thrive” logo and slogan.”

Yes, the Tucson massacre is being branded:

My Man !

ImRubberYoureGlue said:
Kewl, man. Obama rocks. He really knows how to party. *rolls her eyes*

That was not my intent. More of an explanation. That’s what I meant by 21st Century memorial service. It was also a surprize to me, but it’s what the people wanted, so you have to go with the flow. That’s what I was saying.

ImRubberYoureGlue said:
Kewl, man. Obama rocks. He really knows how to party. *rolls her eyes*

Just another campaign stop. At least he didn’t bring the Roman Columns with him.

Grammie,

My apologies if I sounded disrespectful to you. That was not my intent. Just tired of the crap. That woman should not be treated in the manner that she is being treated. We are better than that as a country whether or not you agree or disagree with her.

George C said:
“President Obama used to preach that there was no “Red America” and no “Blue America,” just one America. But tonight at the memorial for the Tucson massacre victims, it will be a sea of blue as the White House unveils the “Together We Thrive” logo and slogan.” Yes, the Tucson massacre is being branded: My Man !

The white house Did Not pass out the T-Shirts. This entire event was put on by the School. It was agreed upon by all of the Family’s. Please, do not make this event a political punching bag. Just take a break for a day.

ImRubberYoureGlue said:
Please suck Obama’s dick behind closed doors. We do not need to see that.

You must be into sucking dicks.

JamesA1102 said:
There you go spreading hate again!

It’s not hateful to despise something that is bad. Duh. Modern Liberalism/Progressivism always ends up hurting people over time.

w_t_f said:
Automatically Obama? It was the college students.

I know that I grew up in a world that was more formal and had many more strict rules of behavior but whoever allowed that WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?????

Sloganeering souvenirs of a Memorial service for six people who died a tragic and horrible death.

Mr. Obama gave a great speech. I often disagree more with some who purport to support him than I do with the President himself.

Mr. Obama proved tonight he is more than worthy of his position. Whether one is conservative, liberal or somewhere in between like me, deep down if you really care you know we need leaders like him everyday and especially when a tragedy strikes.

I do not begrudge the audience’s responses during the memorial. Much tragedy has been visited upon Arizona; they deserve to able to cheer for something.

cmdrgmh said:
The white house Did Not pass out the T-Shirts

Just supplied , my bad

cmdrgmh said:
. Please, do not make this event a political punching bag. Just take a break for a day.

LOL

cmdrgmh said:
The white house Did Not pass out the T-Shirts. This entire event was put on by the School. It was agreed upon by all of the Family’s. Please, do not make this event a political punching bag. Just take a break for a day.

They most certainly did. By the way I have oceanfront property in Montana I’d like to sell you.

sheesh….They’re not ashamed of it, why should you be?

timzank said:
Where ya’ll think Obozo would have been tonight if it had been a Republican in Utah instead of Dem in Arizona?

Yeah, Teh One just ooooozes sincerity.

What a dumb thing to say. Something you know that can not be refuted or supported in any way. Coward.

Obama went to West Virginia for the memorial service of the mine victims. A state that he and everyone knows he lost in a landslide in 08 and will lose again in a landslide in 12. Obama’s approval in that state is like 30% but HE STILL WENT for the service!

Irrationality and hatred from you ideologues knows no bounds.

Grammie said:
I know that I grew up in a world that was more formal and had many more strict rules of behavior but whoever allowed that WHAT WERE THEY THINKING????? Sloganeering souvenirs of a Memorial service for six people who died a tragic and horrible death.

Hey, it wouldn’t have been my choice either, but it is their community.

Jay Velez said:
My apologies if I sounded disrespectful to you

I didn’t take any offense at all. I’m sorry if I gave that impression.

I just think that most people would enjoy that segment.

tatboy said:
You are part of the problem.

no im not part of the problem….I AM THE PROBLEM!!!!!!!…..i have zero respect for back biting violent ass republicans….prison is where you belong as far as im concerned……i wont let a republican get away with a damn thing…..YOU SHOULD BE HAPPY ….THE PRESIDENT BAILED YOUR ASSES OUT AGAIN…Its a damn shame he has to play the role of president pooper scooper and follow you republicans around picking up all the crap you leave in everybodies yards…..he asked for civility and i will oblige him as soon as you republicans shut the hell up and stop trying to blow the brains out on people who wont let you have your way…..he won the election in 2008 by 10 million votes and you asswipes treated him from day 1 like he lost……WELL HE WON AND ITS HIS COUNTRY NOT YOURS

Grammie said:
I know that I grew up in a world that was more formal and had many more strict rules of behavior but whoever allowed that WHAT WERE THEY THINKING????? Sloganeering souvenirs of a Memorial service for six people who died a tragic and horrible death.

It’s called having absolutely no shame. Pretty normal for this administration.

Gasket said:
Irrationality and hatred from you ideologues knows no bounds.

Really very sad.

A Kim Bo said:
Alz said:
I love the US. I despise liberalism

Kim Bo said:
You love America, you just hate half the people in it. You’re a real patriot, I see.

NO! I despise the liberalism, NOT the people. And let’s be clear, when I say “liberals” I almost always mean the deep-down Modern Liberals/Progressives – not the run of the mill Democrat who votes that way for one reason or another. In all cases, it’s the ideas of Liberalism that are the problem.

Got it?

timzank said:
They most certainly did.

I suppose you can prove that? Now you asked me for a link and I gave you one. Now where’s yours?

Alz said:
Duh. Modern Liberalism/Progressivism always ends up hurting people over time.

Can you turn off the Herr Beck tape on a loop in your head for one second.

Kird said:
Mr. Obama gave a great speech. I often disagree more with some who purport to support him than I do with the President himself. Mr. Obama proved tonight he is more than worthy of his position. Whether one is conservative, liberal or somewhere in between like me, deep down if you really care you know we need leaders like him everyday and especially when a tragedy strikes. I do not begrudge the audience’s responses during the memorial. Much tragedy has been visited upon Arizona; they deserve to able to cheer for something.

I agree and ty for saying it so much better than I could.

ProObamaAgenda said:
WELL HE WON AND ITS HIS COUNTRY NOT YOURS

well you got to love this guy lol

ProObamaAgenda said:
he won the election in 2008 by 10 million votes and you asswipes treated him from day 1 like he lost……WELL HE WON AND ITS HIS COUNTRY NOT YOURS

Newsflash asswipe, it’s our country, he works for us. It’s called government by the people for the people you moron.

And don’t count on those 10 million independents from 2008 either, they are long freaking gone pal.

timzank said:
They most certainly did. By the way I have oceanfront property in Montana I’d like to sell you. sheesh….They’re not ashamed of it, why should you be?

Sir,

The truth matters here. The White House DID NOT give out the T-Shirts or had anything to do with the venue. The University did all of it. CNN, ABC, NBC, Fox have all reported this. The School set the Venue and placed the T-Shirts on the Seats before the Public Arrived. Now Please, don’t spread false information. Thank you.

timzank said:
It’s called having absolutely no shame. Pretty normal for this administration.

Do you have any source for that, Tim?

I’m no BHO fan but I have trouble accepting that.

cjd ohio 1 said:
well you got to love this guy lol

I’m thinking its a parody account.

timzank said:
It’s called having absolutely no shame. Pretty normal for this administration.

NO pretty normal for young people these days. Geez, can you not give it a rest for once? Especially on this situation. If you think they have no self control, look at yourself and how you can’t even hold your partisan tongue or fingers of criticism on this tragedy in AZ.

Alz said:
NO! I despise the liberalism, NOT the people

You love Americans, You just hate what they believe in. How dare they have a belief different than yours. It would make your incoherent ramblings far more believable if people didn’t challenge you on them from time to time.

Obviously you’re not adult enough to handle living a democracy.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
I’m thinking its a parody account.

man, i hope so

gordonbloyershow said:
The crazy Indian opening act was inappropriate as was the loony student crowd reaction. It seems that the students thought this was a adore Obama night.

Obama attempted a good speech but the student ruined it.

The libs just can’t do anything without making it political just like the Wellstone memorial. This was a disservice to the dead and Giffords.

The shooting had NOTHING to do with “civil discourse”, a divided nation, getting along, talk radio or Sarah Palin. Liberals just can’t resist giving lectures about their loony ideas about things that did not happen.

Everyday you get dumber and dumber….It must suck to be you……..wingnut

ImRubberYoureGlue said:
Personally, I don’t care where the t-shirts came from, the buck stops with Obama. If the POTUS doesn’t have the common sense or compassion to have stopped whoever chucked them out to people, then he is a completely ineffectual leader. T-shirts???? And they just reek of Obama for America. Sorry but they do. I am just shocked that he let it happen. And I don’t think anything is beneath him. Obama just has so little regard for human life. And apparently he has zero regard for loss and grief. He’s ready to look to the future and “thrive” on it. Tragedy is like milk from a teet for him.

he gave a good speech, relax, i didn’t like it much either but the president had nothing to do with it

ImRubberYoureGlue said:
Personally, I don’t care where the t-shirts came from, the buck stops with Obama.

If the POTUS doesn’t have the common sense or compassion to have stopped whoever chucked them out to people, then he is a completely ineffectual leader.

T-shirts???? And they just reek of Obama for America. Sorry but they do. I am just shocked that he let it happen. And I don’t think anything is beneath him.

Obama just has so little regard for human life. And apparently he has zero regard for loss and grief. He’s ready to look to the future and “thrive” on it. Tragedy is like milk from a teet for him.

Maybe I’ll be inclined to respect your opinion on our president when you believe he is actually eligible to be our president. You’re just trying to drum up some type of faux outrage here.

w_t_f said:
I agree and ty for saying it so much better than I could.

Thank you. My editing skills failed me after listening, and I neglected to type “be” before “able,” and I appreciate you looking past that. The real point I wanted to make is that even if you disagree with the president he’s still a good guy, and Arizona needs something to cheer for. I just can’t get over that that madman murdered that little girl.

ImRubberYoureGlue said:
Personally, I don’t care where the t-shirts came from, the buck stops with Obama. If the POTUS doesn’t have the common sense or compassion to have stopped whoever chucked them out to people, then he is a completely ineffectual leader. T-shirts???? And they just reek of Obama for America. Sorry but they do. I am just shocked that he let it happen. And I don’t think anything is beneath him. Obama just has so little regard for human life. And apparently he has zero regard for loss and grief. He’s ready to look to the future and “thrive” on it. Tragedy is like milk from a teet for him.

Give me a break! The University INVITED him to speak! It’s nothing blame Obama for this, blame Obama for that. He didn’t stop them distributing T-shirts so therefore he has so little regard for human life. You are dishonoring the memories of those who lost their lives by being a complete partisan. Have you no shame?

Sir,

The truth matters here. The White House DID NOT give out the T-Shirts or had anything to do with the venue. The University did all of it. CNN, ABC, NBC, Fox have all reported this. The School set the Venue and placed the T-Shirts on the Seats before the Public Arrived. Now Please, don’t spread false information. Thank you.

True. But I’m pretty sure the POTUS has a bit of stroke and could have suggested how stupid an idea that would be.

Grammie said:
Do you have any source for that, Tim?
I’m no BHO fan but I have trouble accepting that.

No, he never has any source for anything he says. He demands proof from other people but can’t back up a single thing he says.

ProObamaAgenda said:
no im not part of the problem….I AM THE PROBLEM!!!!!!!…..i have zero respect for back biting violent ass republicans….prison is where you belong as far as im concerned……i wont let a republican get away with a damn thing…..YOU SHOULD BE HAPPY ….THE PRESIDENT BAILED YOUR ASSES OUT AGAIN…Its a damn shame he has to play the role of president pooper scooper and follow you republicans around picking up all the crap you leave in everybodies yards…..he asked for civility and i will oblige him as soon as you republicans shut the hell up and stop trying to blow the brains out on people who wont let you have your way…..he won the election in 2008 by 10 million votes and you asswipes treated him from day 1 like he lost……WELL HE WON AND ITS HIS COUNTRY NOT YOURS

You gonna go shoot someone ?

ImRubberYoureGlue said:
Personally, I don’t care where the t-shirts came from, the buck stops with Obama. If the POTUS doesn’t have the common sense or compassion to have stopped whoever chucked them out to people, then he is a completely ineffectual leader. T-shirts???? And they just reek of Obama for America. Sorry but they do. I am just shocked that he let it happen. And I don’t think anything is beneath him. Obama just has so little regard for human life. And apparently he has zero regard for loss and grief. He’s ready to look to the future and “thrive” on it. Tragedy is like milk from a teet for him.

I can not dissagree with you more. In my opinion, Obama has people getting Health Care, he reduced taxes, He got rid of DADT. Now there is a web site called http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/
It covers everything so far. Please check it out. You may dissagree with what he’s doing, but it’s everything he said he would in the Campaign. That’s why I voted for him and will again.

Oh for Gods sake people, just admit it. Do you think this whole thing came off in a vacuum? Yes it’s tacky as hell and that’s your guy and his disciples. Instead of having a dignified memorial you had a fricking pep fest, and it’s on film for fucks sake, just live up to it.

T-shirts. Jesus.

tatboy said:
http://michellemalkin.com/2011/01/12/branding-the-tuscon-massacre-together-we-thrive-in-white-and-blue/

Notice how malkin left out the fact it was the university that thought of giving out the “together we thrive Tucson & America” T-Shirts.

Jay Velez said:
True. But I’m pretty sure the POTUS has a bit of stroke and could have suggested how stupid an idea that would be

That’s true too.

Kird said:
Thank you. My editing skills failed me after listening, and I neglected to type “be” before “able,” and I appreciate you looking past that. The real point I wanted to make is that even if you disagree with the president he’s still a good guy, and Arizona needs something to cheer for. I just can’t get over that that madman murdered that little girl.

amen to that too! the cheering part. On the madman part…..

I commented on mental illness in another thread. That these kinds of situations speak more about the lack of understanding mental illness has in this country and resources on how to deal with it than it does about gun control/crosshairs etc. IMHO.

ImRubberYoureGlue said:
WELL, he should have had something to do with it….something to do with stopping it like any mature respectful person would.

Had I lost a loved one and watched people at their memorial ready to move on and “thrive” and throw out cheap crappy merchandise while I wanted to absorb the grief my loss deserved…I would be sick.

There is something seriously wrong with Obama. He really only has eyes for himself and he is just not fit to lead people. I am floored sometimes by his detachment.

There’s something seriously wrong with you. For starters who’s to say that the president even noticed this in the room full of crowded people? Secondly, what do you want him to do; stop his speech to tell them to stop? Then you’d complain that he’s so unprofessional or something along those lines. Can we stop with the fake outrage and give the man the credit he deserves for a good speech to unite the nation?

ImRubberYoureGlue said:
WELL, he should have had something to do with it….something to do with stopping it like any mature respectful person would. Had I lost a loved one and watched people at their memorial ready to move on and “thrive” and throw out cheap crappy merchandise while I wanted to absorb the grief my loss deserved…I would be sick. There is something seriously wrong with Obama. He really only has eyes for himself and he is just not fit to lead people. I am floored sometimes by his detachment.

do what, he is the president not a dictator

I know that some of you do not care who passed out the t-shirts, but that IS sort of a biggie. For the ones that are saying that Obama had nothing to do with the t-shirts and that the school did all of that, I have looked and cannot find anything about who did them except the wording of “W H operatives” passed them out. There is nothing out there that says that his people did NOT do the shirts.

ImRubberYoureGlue said:
There is something seriously wrong with Obama. He really only has eyes for himself and he is just not fit to lead people. I am floored sometimes by his detachment.

There is something seriously wrong because the whole tenor of the moment we live in is about the public being all too easy to be duped and led by pundits and you fell right for yet another ploy without bothering to check your sources. You believed something because your hatred and irrational fear WANTS to believe it, not because there is any basis in fact.

You are beyond detached, you are deluded.

ImRubberYoureGlue said:
I am a liberal. Have you no shame for being a complete partisan and denying those who lost loved ones the respect they deserve because of your need to coddle a politician? Geez, you are a pig.

You a liberal? Like hell you are!

I didn’t like that the T-Shirts were handed out either, and I thought the memorial service should have been more subdued and less cheery. But to blame the shirts on Obama because he should have stopped it? He can’t be President and memorial service organizer at the same time!

laurits72 said:
There is nothing out there that says that his people did NOT do the shirts.

AGAIN, you are believing something because your irrational fear WANTS to believe it. Obviously this moment in history is flying right over your head and your need to think the worst will never change. Which is why BLOOD LIBEL appeals to you more than HOPE AND CHANGE.

laurits72 said:
I know that some of you do not care who passed out the t-shirts, but that IS sort of a biggie. For the ones that are saying that Obama had nothing to do with the t-shirts and that the school did all of that, I have looked and cannot find anything about who did them except the wording of “W H operatives” passed them out. There is nothing out there that says that his people did NOT do the shirts.

Kind of like when the Doctors showed up at the White House and they passed out the white lab coats??????

These types of things don’t just “spontaneously” happen. Please…

Jay Velez said:
True. But I’m pretty sure the POTUS has a bit of stroke and could have suggested how stupid an idea that would be.

Honestly, I thought he looked a bit uncomfortable at first and with some of the applause at certain times. Now he went there to talk to people that are hurting…so whether he like the idea or not of whatever layout they did, be it T-shirts or whatever what’s he gonna do tell them to scratch that idea? He was their guest basically.

ImRubberYoureGlue said:
WELL, he should have had something to do with it….something to do with stopping it like any mature respectful person would.

You’re probably one of those people that are screaming for smaller government. But then you turn around and want the President to tell a University what they can and can’t do. Make up your damn mind, you can’t have it both ways.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
For starters who’s to say that the president even noticed this in the room full of crowded people?

cjd ohio 1 said:
do what, he is the president not a dictator

The POTUS, every POTUS, has high level staff whose main job is prepare, trouble shoot and prevent just such things that can and will reflect on him.

GWB didn’t approve put the Mission Accomplished sign up but he sure got the heat for it b/c his WH staff knew of it and allowed it.

No difference here, IMO.

timzank said:
These types of things don’t just “spontaneously” happen. Please…

I tried to look for a link as well. nothing yet. while I was watching CNN Cooper asked King if he knew where the shirts were from and he said he was told it was a group of college kids handed them out etc. he said he would try to find out more about it. that was the last I heard so far. god knows if it is from a dem group it will be all over the place soon enough. but i still don’t see how that applied to Obama. but then again i don’t hate him.

the real john t said:
You’re probably one of those people that are screaming for smaller government. But then you turn around and want the President to tell a University what they can and can’t do. Make up your damn mind, you can’t have it both ways.

So in effect, you’re comfortable with your President being about as tacky as a lawyer passing out cards at an auto accident, huh?

A Kim Bo said:
AGAIN, you are believing something because your irrational fear WANTS to believe it. Obviously this moment in history is flying right over your head and your need to think the worst will never change. Which is why BLOOD LIBEL appeals to you more than HOPE AND CHANGE.

A Kim bo,

Please chill a little. I was simply reading the comments and decided to maybe see if I could get an answer for ALL of the people making the t-shirt comments. I do not fear anything and this is not over my head.

ImRubberYoureGlue said:
I am a liberal.

All you are is a damn liar.

A Kim Bo said:
You love Americans, You just hate what they believe in. How dare they have a belief different than yours. It would make your incoherent ramblings far more believable if people didn’t challenge you on them from time to time.

Obviously you’re not adult enough to handle living a democracy.

Sorry, liberalism ends up hurting people. I don’t like people getting hurt.

With your love of liberalism, why do want people to get hurt???

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
Secondly, what do you want him to do; stop his speech to tell them to stop? Then you’d complain

that he was hitler or something even worse!

w_t_f said:
amen to that too! the cheering part. On the madman part…..

I commented on mental illness in another thread. That these kinds of situations speak more about the lack of understanding mental illness has in this country and resources on how to deal with it than it does about gun control/crosshairs etc. IMHO.

Indeed. It would not have mattered if the gunman were a liberal or a conservative; his actions would not have represented either movement’s goals in our society. He is murderously insane and therefore not entitled to the responsibility that comes with owning a weapon supposedly of self defense. A part of me wants to demonize his parents, but ultimately not even a diety can stand between a person and murderous insanity.

A Kim Bo said:
AGAIN, you are believing something because your irrational fear WANTS to believe it. Obviously this moment in history is flying right over your head and your need to think the worst will never change. Which is why BLOOD LIBEL appeals to you more than HOPE AND CHANGE.

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timzank said:
So in effect, you’re comfortable with your President being about as tacky as a lawyer passing out cards at an auto accident, huh?

Don’t ever scream about wanting a smaller government again if you’re so up on the President to tell a university what to do.

the real john t said:
You’re probably one of those people that are screaming for smaller government. But then you turn around and want the President to tell a University what they can and can’t do

Please explain the nexus between “wanting smaller government” and the POTUS not having any input to any event he attends?

ImRubberYoureGlue said:
You don’t get to dictate my politics just because I am a woman, you sexist MF. I am a liberal. Deal with it.

Why do you feel the need to state that you are a liberal? What is your point in doing this?

I didn’t know you were a woman. You don’t get to dictate how I feel about women just because I call you out for your ridiculousness and you just happen to be a woman. You are just as bad as people who call those who disagree with Obama racists.

Jay Velez said:
But I’m pretty sure the POTUS has a bit of stroke and could have suggested how stupid an idea that would be.

Perhaps he wasn’t aware they had placed them on the chairs.He and the first lady are kept in back i’m sure untill it was time to come out.

ImRubberYoureGlue said:
You love to think for women don’t you? You don’t have a clue about anything and you sure don’t know my politics.

Some people comment without thought and some thoughtless people just comment; don’t let that discourage you in any way.

ImRubberYoureGlue said:
You don’t get to dictate my politics just because I am a woman, you sexist MF. I am a liberal. Deal with it.

something tells me your to mean and nasty to be liberal. Unless you might be one of those tiny percentage of racist liberals that hates Pres. Obama cause he’s hawaiin. crawl back under your rock.

the real john t said:
Don’t ever scream about wanting a smaller government again if you’re so up on the President to tell a university what to do.

Pay attention hack, he, and his well oiled re-election staff coordinated with a University (packed top to bottom with liberal) to put this event on. It’s in their mutual best interest, they are disciples of Teh One. That’s what makes it so infuriating. There is NO PLACE friendlier to Obama tha a college campus, they drool at the thought of him. Perfect soft minded drones chanting as his awesomeness descends upon the cheering masses.

ImRubberYoureGlue said:
You love to think for women don’t you?

I don’t care if you’re a woman, man or a gerbil. So give up the femenist bullshit. You come on here spewing bullshit you’re going to get it thrown right back at you. So just stop with this “I’m a woman you shouldn’t treat me like this”. So suck on that , idiot.

ROCKSTEADY said:
Perhaps he wasn’t aware they had placed them on the chairs.He and the first lady are kept in back i’m sure untill it was time to come out.

Oceanfront Land Available in Utah, please call me.

w_t_f said:
something tells me your to mean and nasty to be liberal.

The only way you could say that with a straight face is if you had not met SarahP, and some of her fellow travelers here such as TRRK, and Jelperman.

w_t_f said:
crawl back under your rock.

the real john t said:
So give up the femenist bullshit. You come on here spewing bullshit you’re going to get it thrown right back at you. So just stop with this “I’m a woman you shouldn’t treat me like this”. So suck on that , idiot.

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timzank said:
Pay attention hack, he, and his well oiled re-election staff coordinated with a University (packed top to bottom with liberal) to put this event on.

Prove that asshole. You’ve been spouting your BS all night without a single bit of proof.

ROCKSTEADY said:
Perhaps he wasn’t aware they had placed them on the chairs.He and the first lady are kept in back i’m sure untill it was time to come out.

Yes they were the last to arrive and sounded to me like they came right from the hospital.

Grammie, I would think, that his people were more focused on security than t-shirts perhaps? And again, he was their gracious guest in their state, in their community and I can’t believe these T-shirts are such an damn issue in light of things.

I was even watching the special on a local Tucson TV station (thanks CSPAN) and their segment or hour long special was called “Together We Thrive.” It was a locally themed slogan meant to unite all of Tucson. It had nothing to do with the Obama administration. The University of Arizona was responsible for dispensing the attire. I see nothing wrong with it. They were not selling the t-shirts. Every media outlet has reported this.

Grammie said:
w_t_f said:
something tells me your to mean and nasty to be liberal.

Oh, surely you’ve met john t here at least tonight.

Grammie said:
The only way you could say that with a straight face is if you had not met SarahP, and some of her fellow travelers here such as TRRK, and Jelperman.

Grammie there is a difference. I ‘ll let you figure it out.

the real john t said:
I don’t care if you’re a woman, man or a gerbil. So give up the femenist bullshit. You come on here spewing bullshit you’re going to get it thrown right back at you.

Hmm, it would appear we now know the “real” John T.

the real john t said:So just stop with this “I’m a woman you shouldn’t treat me like this”. So suck on that , idiot.

Yes, let’s all “suck on that.”

Grammie said:
Oh, surely you’ve met john t here at least tonight.

and I do beg to differ with you on that one. john t only gives back what was shoved at him first.

timzank said:
Pay attention hack, he, and his well oiled re-election staff coordinated with a University (packed top to bottom with liberal) to put this event on. It’s in their mutual best interest, they are disciples of Teh One. That’s what makes it so infuriating. There is NO PLACE friendlier to Obama tha a college campus, they drool at the thought of him. Perfect soft minded drones chanting as his awesomeness descends upon the cheering masses.

Unfortunately for you, your masses are dying off.

w_t_f said:
and I do beg to differ with you on that one. john t only gives back what was shoved at him first.

Two wrongs do not make a right, just two wrongs.

The level of open hatred on here, most of it done under cover of anonymity, is depressing. Human beings suck.

timzank said:
Pay attention hack, he, and his well oiled re-election staff coordinated with a University (packed top to bottom with liberal) to put this event on.

Prove it or shut the F up!

ImRubberYoureGlue said:
dangerous for any woman to use her voice in government

There are alot of woman in politics who use their voices just fine.You are not a liberal. You must be a Troll who has to cause problems today because people heard what the president said and took it to heart.

This was the president I voted for and will vote for again, just wish this guy showed up more often. If you didn’t think Sarah Palin’s day couldn’t get any worse, watch her Facebook video then watch the President’s speech. Hope she is embarrassed.

Gasket said:
I see nothing wrong with it.

And it shocks me. It offends what little sense of propriety I have left in this new age,

As a teenager I was so smitten with Elvis I embroidered (there were no clothes except uniforms with writing on them) his name on the back of one of my brother’s tee shirts. My Mama promptly made me take it off and gave me a long lecture on proper attire for a lady.

No biggie in the scheme of things but it is obviously raising questions/eyebrows even in the media.

Grammie said:
Please explain the nexus between “wanting smaller government” and the POTUS not having any input to any event he attends?

So, in your mind a President can tell a University what they can and cannot do. On private property when he is invited as a guest speaker. But to you RWers he is overstepping his boundrys when trying to tell a major corporation what to do when they get a loan from taxpayers money. I’ll never be able to understand the mindset of the idiotic RWers.

w_t_f said:
and I do beg to differ with you on that one. john t only gives back what was shoved at him first.

Then perhaps you haven’t known john t as long as or at other sites as I have.

Grammie said:
No biggie in the scheme of things but it is obviously raising questions/eyebrows even in the media.

i htink because its another tit for tat. if you read up it’s gotta be Obama and the dems passing out blue t-shirts. but its always the left that jumps to conclusions, right?

Grammie said:
Oh, surely you’ve met john t here at least tonight.

Why don’t you run back over to Dollar’s Dump and kiss his ass.

ImRubberYoureGlue said:
You don’t get to dictate my politics just because I am a woman, you sexist MF

You and Timzank just can’t stand the people here were having Normal conversations can you?If you are a woman and this act is for real are you one of Palins children or just a Worker Bee for her? And as a woman do you really think this is a good way to honor that little 9 year old who loved her country so much?

Grammie said:
Then perhaps you haven’t known john t as long as or at other sites as I have.

he’s a bit more grouchy tonight then I’ve ever seen him since reading here for about a year now. but that rubber/glue thing is enough to push a button. gotta be a troll though. no one can be than mean.

Kird said:
Two wrongs do not make a right, just two wrongs.

So, I’m just supposed to turn the other cheek at all the RW filth thrown at me. Doesn’t work that way in my world. Funny, I don’t ever see you preaching to your RW buddies about their comments.

the real john t said:
So, in your mind a President can tell a University what they can and cannot do. On private property when he is invited as a guest speaker

First, you ignored the thrust of the question which was what reason you have to claim that “wanting:smaller government” is incompatible with the POTUS having input at any event he attends.

Your answer is not only non responsive it is totally off topic. The Feds, thru the administrative powers of the Executive, do exercise huge amounts of control over all institutions of learning..

However, for an event such as this that isn’t the power that would be exercised unless you think that the Feds has no control over any aspect of public appearances by the POTUS.

w_t_f said:
he’s a bit more grouchy tonight then I’ve ever seen him since reading here for about a year now. but that rubber/glue thing is enough to push a button. gotta be a troll though. no one can be than mean.

Admittedly, its hard to respectfully address what he says without kid’s gloves. Good night.

Grammie said:
And it shocks me. It offends what little sense of propriety I have left in this new age,

ok, so fine, but why does it always have to be about Obama? he and his alternative motives I mean? and again if word got out he told them to scrap the t-shirts well jesus god what a stir that would have made!!! i can hear it now. that damn elitist had a problem with down home people and their t-shirts etc etc etc! just no pleasing some people.

w_t_f said:
but its always the left that jumps to conclusions, right?

Well, if you INSIST!

No, it isn’t. Human nature, you know.

give the t-shirt shit a rest please…………discuss issues

the real john t said:
Why don’t you run back over to Dollar’s Dump and kiss his ass.

There, there.

Grouchy, aren’t we?

So unlike you,

w_t_f said:
he’s a bit more grouchy tonight then I’ve ever seen him since reading here for about a year now.

Let me tell you a little about Grammie. She comes from a site called Johnny Dollar’s Place. They have 8 to 10 little sheep that just bows down to Dollar. If someone goes on there and disagrees with Dollar or his 8 sheep Grammie will be the first to lecture them on how they shouldn’t talk badly to people, but show some respect. That’s why she comes over here and does a complete 180 and vents her anger to all liberals. She’s two faced.

w_t_f said:
ok, so fine, but why does it always have to be about Obama? he and his alternative motives I mean? and again if word got out he told them to scrap the t-shirts well jesus god what a stir that would have made!!!

cjd ohio 1 said:
give the t-shirt shit a rest please…………discuss issues

I will as soon as I get the last word in. A ladies prerogative,

Now you’re putting words in my mouth. It is about BHO b/c the POTUS is always the center of focus at any event he attends. If this had been a campus event w/o the visiting brass who would care what a bunch of college kids did?

I can definitively say that would NOT have been my reaction. Absolutely NOT.

Well, I have greatly disappointed myself. I have not honored the memories of those who lost their lives because I chose to participate in a nasty tit for tat with someone who would only make me angrier. I would like to stay on here longer and enjoy a conversation here with good people like cjd ohio 1, grammie, kird, w_t_f, the real john t, but if I stay on here longer tonight, I fear I may get into arguments with others who wish to inflame.

I hope everyone has a good night. I am going to try to spend some time doing what I can to honor the victims. I’ve participated in enough division for tonight and I regret it.

Grammie said:
Well, if you INSIST! No, it isn’t. Human nature, you know.

ok, well then it was just human nature for people to put palin’s crosshairs together with Giffords shooting? or is that some how different? than just human nature? cause then that would mean its not a democrat game they like to roll, as your friend Michelle in Utah/looking our her window and Sarainitaly wanted to piss and moan about all yesterday and today and I am sure tomorrow and then next and well i think you see where I am going with it.

Grammie said:
However, for an event such as this that isn’t the power that would be exercised unless you think that the Feds has no control over any aspect of public appearances by the POTUS.

The only thing the Feds have control over is the President and his wifes security. Do you think they have control over what’s sold in the snack bar? Are you really that stupid?

Grammie said:
I will as soon as I get the last word in. A ladies prerogative, Now you’re putting words in my mouth. It is about BHO b/c the POTUS is always the center of focus at any event he attends. If this had been a campus event w/o the visiting brass who would care what a bunch of college kids did? I can definitively say that would NOT have been my reaction. Absolutely NOT.

Well maybe the good Gov Brewer, since it was her state could have recommended that the t-shirts and whatever else the right objected to…indian stuff whatever should have been saved for another day.

stoogedudes said:
Well, I have greatly disappointed myself. I have not honored the memories of those who lost their lives because I chose to participate in a nasty tit for tat with someone who would only make me angrier. I would like to stay on here longer and enjoy a conversation here with good people like cjd ohio 1, grammie, kird, w_t_f, the real john t, but if I stay on here longer tonight, I fear I may get into arguments with others who wish to inflame. I hope everyone has a good night. I am going to try to spend some time doing what I can to honor the victims. I’ve participated in enough division for tonight and I regret it.

Good night, take care and yes I know I broke my promise to myself as well. So be off with you, so you can get a good nights sleep.

Alz said:
It’s not hateful to despise something that is bad. Duh. Modern Liberalism/Progressivism always ends up hurting people over time.

So what ever you don’t like it bad. And yes Social Security, Civil Rights have only hurt people over time.

w_t_f said:
ok, well then it was just human nature for people to put palin’s crosshairs together with Giffords shooting? or is that some how different? than just human nature?

I’m not quite sure exactly where you are on this.

I meant that I realize that people of many different political stripes do share in a common human nature.

That said, Paul Krugman very deliberately behaved very badly both in an unthinking reflexive way and then doubled down on succeeding days.

As for the cross hairs after it was proven that both sides of the aisle have done it for years and Bob Beckel even claimed ownership of it from many years ago a certain element just continues to insist that SP somehow has blood on her hands for using a very common non partisan tactic. That’s not human nature taking control but a deliberate decision to distort.

I hope I have explained myself so that you understand what I meant.

the real john t said:
Are you really that stupid?

My, my you are “grumpy” tonight.

w_t_f said:
Well maybe the good Gov Brewer, since it was her state could have recommended that the t-shirts and whatever else the right objected to

Oh no, no, no. According to the RWers that’s the President and Fed. government’s job. But they want smaller government. They want the Fed. government to stay out of their business.

Grammie said:
My, my you are “grumpy” tonight.

And you are really stupid tonight. I’d rather be grumpy than plain stupid.

w_t_f said:
Well maybe the good Gov Brewer, since it was her state could have recommended that the t-shirts and whatever else the right objected to…indian stuff whatever should have been saved for another day.

If she has the power to do so at a Presidential event she should have.

As for the first speaker I haven’t said a word about it. Since you bring it up I did think it was unusual but certainly nothing offensive.

Grammie said:
Grammie says:
January 13, 2011 at 1:13 am

Do you think Sarah Palin using the term “blood libel” in her statement today is just fine?

the real john t said:
And you are really stupid tonight. I’d rather be grumpy than plain stupid.

To paraphrase Emma to Miss Bates “My dear the problem is you’re not limited to just one”.

the real john t said:
Do you think Sarah Palin using the term “blood libel” in her statement today is just fine?

If it’s OK with Alan Dershowitz it’s fine by me.

Grammie said:
I hope I have explained myself so that you understand what I meant.

obviously T-shirts and shooting/crosshairs are not equal in importance but the premise is the same.

not of the t-shirts being tacky but being an Obama alternative motive to shove communism down peoples throats in disquise of blue shirts at a memorial service because he has no class because he is…………..

right? at least that is what I got out of a few others posts up there. not yours but some on the right.

Liked the speech, don’t like Obama but he did a great job for a memorial. Everyone else seemed to think it was a pep rally. The event was disrespectful for a memorial. I think maybe too many people got their wires crossed and the huge event was put on too fast. I don’t care if Obama’s people put the shirts there or the school did. Great for a pep rally poor taste for a memorial. I say Obama did a great job for his part but if the slogan “together we thrive” shows up being Obama’s next campaign or if the slogan is used for any partisan purpose then they will have capitalized on this tragety.

Grammie said:
If it’s OK with Alan Dershowitz it’s fine by me.

You probably don’t even know what the term means. Of course it was probably not a good idea to ask a Palin worshipper that. Palin could say she likes eating little kittens and you would start raising cats to have kittens every night for supper.

Grammie said:
If she has the power to do so at a Presidential event she should have. As for the first speaker I haven’t said a word about it. Since you bring it up I did think it was unusual but certainly nothing offensive.

Gordo didn’t like the indian stuff. i think that’s how he described it.

i would think that would be Brewers responsibility towards making sure things were set up in a more presidential way for his appearance. don’t know of course, but would think so.

w_t_f said:
Gordo didn’t like the indian stuff. i think that’s how he described it. i would think that would be Brewers responsibility towards making sure things were set up in a more presidential way for his appearance. don’t know of course, but would think so.

although maybe she was busy checking the budget to find that money for the transplants.

Ajolily said:
Liked the speech, don’t like Obama but he did a great job for a memorial. Everyone else seemed to think it was a pep rally. The event was disrespectful for a memorial. I think maybe too many people got their wires crossed and the huge event was put on too fast. I don’t care if Obama’s people put the shirts there or the school did. Great for a pep rally poor taste for a memorial. I say Obama did a great job for his part but if the slogan “together we thrive” shows up being Obama’s next campaign or if the slogan is used for any partisan purpose then they will have capitalized on this tragety.

people on the left and the right did not care for the pep ralley tone. but it appears from all i heard from the news stations it was the college’s and community’s idea. not the administrations.

Grammie said:
If it’s OK with Alan Dershowitz it’s fine by me.

I always knew you couldn’t think for yourself.

Brilliant. Just brilliant.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/joshgerstein/0111/Obama_speech_undercuts_federal_charge_for_judges_murder.html

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
An aide close to Sarah Palin says death threats and security threats have increased to an unprecedented level since the shooting in Arizona, and the former Alaska governor’s team has been talking to security professionals.

The left ladies and gents!! Who exactly it promoting hate again?

Comments like this.

w_t_f said:
not of the t-shirts being tacky but being an Obama alternative motive to shove communism down peoples throats in disquise of blue shirts at a memorial service because he has no class because he is…………..

right? at least that is what I got out of a few others posts up there. not yours but some on the right.

I’d say that’s a bit much. I don’t see anyone in the admin doing that.

If you want my deep thoughts on it here goes.

I think this admin has a track record of striking the wrong chord such as returning the bust of Winston Churchill, my all time hero, and the prohibitively expensive for we taxpayers “date night” in New York. However, they are more a matter of style, so to speak, than of substance.

What I really disapprove of is the substance of his Admin from health care to using the EPA to do what Cap and Trade’s defeat thwarted and the Stimulus etc.

Mr B said:
Brilliant. Just brilliant. <A href="http://www.politico.com/blogs/joshgerstein/0111/Obama_speech_undercuts_federal_charge_for_judges_murder.html&quot; rel=no

I would hope to god these people have enough on this guy to put him away forever.I think he will skip the death penalty because he is crazy so he will just get life in prison.

Mr B said:
Brilliant. Just brilliant. http://www.politico.com/blogs/joshgerstein/0111/Obama_speech_undercuts_federal_charge_for_judges_murder.html

I get your point but this has been said since day one about him just stopping by to visit. so Obama did not necessarily screw up. and it would be the feds screwing up by trying to lie about him being there on work related issues to get a hire charge for the kid. to which a lie is a lie.

i should think with this mass murder etc. they got enough and more to put this kid away forever if not death already.

the real john t said:
You probably don’t even know what the term means. Of course it was probably not a good idea to ask a Palin worshipper that. Palin could say she likes eating little kittens and you would start raising cats to have kittens every night for supper.

the real john t said:
I always knew you couldn’t think for yourself.

If you’re going to continue being so “grumpy” all night I think you should just grab your bankie and take a little nappie poo. Nobody likes “grumpy” little boys, you betcha!

stephenpyle said:
Comments like this.

she brought that on herself. sorry. and at this point i think its BS. I have been watching the news for days now and no one but the foggy window has said this. if Im wrong someone show me a link. and ill admit im wrong.

w_t_f said:
people on the left and the right did not care for the pep ralley tone. but it appears from all i heard from the news stations it was the college’s and community’s idea. not the administrations.

I keep recommending Fox’s round table for its excellent analysis of the event.

They gave BHO very high marks and all remarked on how well he handled that “pep rally” mood.

Grammie said:
and the prohibitively expensive for we taxpayers “date night” in New York.

Oh, no other President has ever done anything like that before have they? What about Laura Bush taking her 2 daughters to NY City right after 9/11 on a shopping trip? Do you think that didn’t cost the taxpayers any money. Why don’t you climb down off your self righteous platform and join the real world.

*higher….. need an edit button

Grammie said:
If you’re going to continue being so “grumpy” all night

I’ll stop being grumpy when you stop being stupid.

Grammie said:
I keep recommending Fox’s round table for its excellent analysis of the event. They gave BHO very high marks and all remarked on how well he handled that “pep rally” mood.

yes i saw that and I was pleasantly surprised.

Grammie said:
I’d say that’s a bit much. I don’t see anyone in the admin doing that.

I think Beck might say it tomorrow. idon’t know of course but it would be right up his alley. and again I said i saw some posts way up further with people referring as much.

w_t_f said:
w_t_f said:
Gordo didn’t like the indian stuff. i think that’s how he described it. i would think that would be Brewers responsibility towards making sure things were set up in a more presidential way for his appearance. don’t know of course, but would think so.

although maybe she was busy checking the budget to find that money for the transplants.

Well, why didn’t you just say right out front that “Gordo” said it so I’d know what the talking points were? Duh.

You object to blanket condemnations yet you seem to skate pretty close to the line yourself sometimes. You’re also not above (human nature) a little quick snark comment to make a cheap point about a complex issue.

So we all do and some much more than others.

Grammie said:
If it’s OK with Alan Dershowitz it’s fine by me.

David Gergan said on CNN there were some jewish people and others that were appalled by it.

w_t_f said:
yes i saw that and I was pleasantly surprised.

Why the surprise?

They are all serious men with excellent reputations and with Krauthammer on the few, very few, occasions that I disagree with him I very seriously reconsider my position.

w_t_f said:
David Gergan said on CNN there were some jewish people and others that were appalled by it

Major Jewish groups are also divided on it. On the thread re the issue someone, I think 2012, had a rather long comment of prominent Dems and media figures all using the term exactly as SP did.

You can find it here if you missed it:

http://www.mediaite.com/online/blood-libel-jewish-leaders-debate-whether-palins-words-are-offensive/#comment-275459

w_t_f said:
David Gergan said on CNN there were some jewish people and others that were appalled by it.

Well that doesn’t matter as long as Dershowitz said it was okay. There was a Sen. or Rep. on MSNBC today that was jewish and she was appalled by it. But as long as Grammie thinks it’s okay if Dershowitz says so, nobody else matters.

Grammie said:
Well, why didn’t you just say right out front that “Gordo” said it so I’d know what the talking points were? Duh. You object to blanket condemnations yet you seem to skate pretty close to the line yourself sometimes. You’re also not above (human nature) a little quick snark comment to make a cheap point about a complex issue. So we all do and some much more than others.

I did say Gordo twice. Once to you and once to someone else. I didn’t say I was above making blanket statements or cheap shots. If you mean about Michelle and Sara…not cheap shot that was truth. About Beck I said I can’t be sure but it would be up his alley. Another truth. I in no way blame Sarah Palin for the shootings. But I do think her crosshairs etc is an example, largely the worst example of dangerous rhetoric. as well as there is others from both sides. Brewer has been submitted at least 25 ways to adjust the budget for the transplants and is ignoring the situation altogether last I heard being Friday eve.

Interesting

Grammie said:
w_t_f said:
David Gergan said on CNN there were some jewish people and others that were appalled by it
Major Jewish groups are also divided on it. On the thread re the issue someone, I think 2012, had a rather long comment of prominent Dems and media figures all using the term exactly as SP did.
You can find it here if you missed it:
http://www.mediaite.com/online/blood-libel-jewish-leaders-debate-whether-palins-words-are-offensive/#comment-275459

Just where is it in that article that shows Democrats using the term the same as Palin did?

Grammie said:
Major Jewish groups are also divided on it. On the thread re the issue someone, I think 2012, had a rather long comment of prominent Dems and media figures all using the term exactly as SP did. You can find it here if you missed it: http://www.mediaite.com/online/blood-libel-jewish-leaders-debate-whether-palins-words-are-offensive/#comment-275459

I look through it twice and found no post from the foggey window. unless she did it under another name that I am not aware of. her sources are usually suspect though. one sided if you like.

I was not the one that brought that subject up.

its time for me to go. goodnight.

w_t_f said:
I did say Gordo twice. Once to you and once to someone else

Sorry, I obviously missed it.

I was only addressing what I quoted. My senior moments don’t allow me to have instant total recall unless something really stands out or is very prevalent.

I’m just starting to have a sense of you. I don’t remember the specifics but I do remember giving you a few thumbs up in the last few days.

w_t_f said:
foggey window

Who is “foggy window”?

My take…..

Good Obama speech.
Clapping seemed weird and out of place. :\
“Blood Outrage” criticism seems to be faux outrage.

BFD said:
My take…..

Good Obama speech.
Clapping seemed weird and out of place. :\
“Blood Outrage” criticism seems to be faux outrage.

meant “Blood Libel”, of course. :)

Sigh

Grammie said:
Who is “foggy window”?

I think he means LookingOutMywindow at 2012. And most of her C&P comes from NewsBusters. Not the most credible site.

w_t_f said:
I was not the one that brought that subject up.

Yes you did address it here which is what I was responding to

w_t_f said:
David Gergan said on CNN there were some jewish people and others that were appalled by it.

Good night!

ImRubberYoureGlue said:
I am a liberal.
Have you no shame for being a complete partisan and denying those who lost loved ones the respect they deserve because of your need to coddle a politician?
Geez, you are a pig.

Did you even bother to watch the memorial? Did you not see any good in the service? I didn’t see any coddling. I saw a nice service. I saw loved ones receiving the respect they deserved. I’m baffled how you did not.

I also saw the loved ones being celebrated with applause. Why is it a bad thing if applause is given to a deceased loved one? Why does paying respect to a loved one, (in your eyes) mean it has to a be sullen and sombre ocassion?
In the past 5 months I’ve attended a close friends memorial service, then one month and 3 days later, I attended my close friends Mother’s memorial. Both my friends memorials were a celebration of life. There was tears shed, smiles exchanged, laughter, funny stories told, songs sung, and music played by young teenagers. There was also, “gasp” plenty of spontaneous applause.

I’m not a huge fan of Obama, but I thought his speech was a fine speech. I did not see him pushing his party colors as some think. I saw a sincere caring person speaking sincere caring words. As for the T shirts, did you even bother finding out where they came from? That they were printed with the same wording as the program for the memorial service. That it was the university who’s idea it was of printing and distributing the T shirts?
Did you bother to watch any of the interviews with the victims that survived the shooting that attended the memorial?
The mother who was shot 3 times trying to protect her daughter? Did you see her teenage son wearing a Together we thrive Tucson & America T shirt, over his dress shirt and tie?

Of course not. You’re too busy calling people who did see some good, pigs.

OxyCon says:
January 12, 2011 at 3:52 pm OxyCon(Quote)
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Frank Rich, New York Times columnist, October 15, 2006: “The moment Mr. Foley’s e-mails became known, we saw that brand of fearmongering and bigotry at full tilt: Bush administration allies exploited the former Congressman’s predatory history to spread the grotesque canard that homosexuality is a direct path to pedophilia. It’s the kind of blood libel that in another era was spread about Jews.”

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Alex Beam in the Boston Globe, January 14, 2005, discussing the accusation that an official had used the “n-word” in meetings overseas: “My two anonymous sources were making charges that amounted to ‘blood libel’ against former colleagues; that raised the bar for ethical publication.”

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Andrew Cohen of CBS News, May 7, 2008: “So-called “judicial activism” occurs, in other words, when it’s your side that lost the case and it is nothing short of a blood libel against judges to accuse them of operating by fiat.”

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Florida Democrat Peter Deutsch:

Let me just talk a little bit about the whole, I guess, spin from the Republicans about — which has been to me the absolute most — the worst statements I have ever heard probably in my life about anything. I mean, almost a blood libel by the Republicans towards Al Gore, saying that he was trying to stop men and women in uniform that are serving this country from voting. That is the most absurd thing and absolutely has no basis in fact at all.

——————–

Andrew Sullivan, October 10, 2008:

A couple of obvious thoughts. Paladino speaks of “perverts who target our children and seek to destroy their lives.” This is the gay equivalent of the medieval (and Islamist) blood-libel against Jews.

Held at a College so his young supporters could be there, they handed out T-Shirts at a Memorial??? and some booed Jan Brewer?? what the hell was this? a rally?
It is now very obvious that the left is in a 24/7 political battle with anyone who does not agree with them and they will use any, and I mean any, event to their advantage…. including a memorial service.

Jayson said:
Of course not. You’re too busy calling people who did see some good, pigs.

You’re absolutley right. She didn’t see or even listen to it. She was too busy on this blog insulting liberals which she had the nerve to claim she was a liberal.

philipjames said:
and some booed Jan Brewer??

I didn’t hear that. What is the source, please?

Grammie said:
Grammie says:
January 13, 2011 at 2:40 am

Do you have a link to that source for that?

the real john t said:
Do you have a link to that source for that?

OxyCon gave the speaker, the place and the date for all but one. I suggest you google it if you think he fabricated them.

Grammie said:
Grammie says:
January 13, 2011 at 2:40 am

In everyone of those comments they explain why they are using the term. Palin never explained it, she just read someone elses words and I doubt she even knew what the term meant. Yes, she is that ignorant.

the real john t said:
In everyone of those comments they explain why they are using the term.

Really?

Other than Andrew Sullivan with “This is the gay equivalent of the medieval (and Islamist) blood-libel against Jews.” I don’t see any such thing.

The contention, remember, was that the term is de facto anti-semitic. OxyCon offers proof that the term is used by others in the exact same way as opposed to its original centuries old meaning.

Grammie said:
Frank Rich, New York Times columnist, October 15, 2006: “The moment Mr. Foley’s e-mails became known, we saw that brand of fearmongering and bigotry at full tilt: Bush administration allies exploited the former Congressman’s predatory history to spread the grotesque canard that homosexuality is a direct path to pedophilia. It’s the kind of blood libel that in another era was spread about Jews.”

What’s the matter? Can’t you read, or can’t you comprehend what you read. You Palin defenders are pathetic.

the real john t said:
What’s the matter? Can’t you read, or can’t you comprehend what you read. You Palin defenders are pathetic.

Grumpy, grumpy, grumpy!

I missed one of two and you saw three that didn’t exist.

My point remains the same. Everyone of them used “blood libel” to refer to situations that are not in the original 100s of years ago original meaning just as SP did.

If it is and has been acceptable to so many without complaint it seems it has everything to do with who said rather than what was said.

You’re not an insulting little twerp you’re just “grumpy”. That’s really rich,

What happened to you that you are compelled to build yourself up not by virtue of your own deeds but rather by crudely insulting everyone else. Not an endearing trait, I assure you.

Grammie said:
Grumpy, grumpy, grumpy!

Don’t worry Grammie, tomorrow I’ll wake up and not be grumpy. But you’ll wake up and still be stupid. Stupidity can’t be cured overnight. Or for that matter, ever if the person is too far gone like you.

the real john t said:
the real john t says:
January 13, 2011 at 3:44 am

And you still haven’t addressed the basic issue that “blood libel” is in standard use in our time (per the quotes) to describe exactly what has happened this past week to SP.

BTW, Winston Churchill would roll over in his grave at your clumsy attempt to insult me. For that to work it has to be pithy, not an essay.

Grammie said:
And you still haven’t addressed the basic issue that “blood libel” is in standard use in our time (per the quotes) to describe exactly what has happened this past week to SP.

And you haven’t proven a damned thing. You’re getting kind of boring with your stupidity. I’m not going to waste sleep to read your idiotic rants. “at your clumsy attempt to insult me”. Oh, I’ve won the war on words, or else you wouldn’t be coming back to spew your ignorant rants. You are nothing but a dumbass. You should just stick to Dollar’s Dump under his protection. Oh, that’s right, the asylum shuts down Dollar’s Dump at midnight. Are you out on a family visit? Is Blackfong getting his medication? The last time I looked in on Doallar’s Dump it didn’t look like it. Maybe you can ask the nurses there since you have a room right next to him.

Good night.

Alz said:
Good speech by Obama. Brewer did good. The question is will Obama learn from this? Or will he go back to his Alinsky tactics designed to undermine and hurt people? In the past, he said things like this: “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun” Barack Obama 6-14-2008.“I want you to argue with them and get in their face.” Barack Obama 9-17-2008“They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back” Barack Obama 10-25-2010‘We’re gonna punish our enemies and we’re gonna reward our friends . . .” Barack Obama 10-25-2010 Will he grow?

Will you get over the first line, it is from a movie.

What we cannot do is use this tragedy as one more occasion to turn on each other

Amen brother Amen

Jayson said:
I also saw the loved ones being celebrated with applause. Why is it a bad thing if applause is given to a deceased loved one? Why does paying respect to a loved one, (in your eyes) mean it has to a be sullen and sombre ocassion?
In the past 5 months I’ve attended a close friends memorial service, then one month and 3 days later, I attended my close friends Mother’s memorial. Both my friends memorials were a celebration of life. There was tears shed, smiles exchanged, laughter, funny stories told, songs sung, and music played by young teenagers. There was also, “gasp” plenty of spontaneous applause.

Thank you for this. I lost a sister last summer and her memorial was a celebration of her life much as you describe.

Typical Barry. He talks about people who were killed and injured and their families and the first responders, but not a single word about the real victim of Tucson, Sarah Palin. Barry’s PDS continues.

Janet, thanks for your rousing defense of “Blood LIbel” in particular and anti-Semitism in general. You are absolutely right about today’s common usage of “Blood Libel”. Just last Saturday I was in my local Walmart and the gentleman in front of me at the check-out, who was buying a couple of gallons of anti-freeze, some Red Man, a cheap ball-peen hammer and some Rid-Ex was having a spirited conversation with Wanda June, the checker, peppered with “blood libel”.

I think the problem began when the Church removed “pro perfidis judaeis” from the Good Friday liturgy, don’t you? Since then we have become overly-sensitive to hate-filled language in America, and it has begun to disappear. I am pleased to see you and Ms. Palin try to revive it.

The Real Royal King said:
Typical Barry. He talks about people who were killed and injured and their families and the first responders, but not a single word about the real victim of Tucson, Sarah Palin. Barry’s PDS continues.

Actually no….the typical Barry was the lie he told to the American peopl on national TV last night.

That’s the same old Barry.

But carry on hack…..you almost got all the fly shit picked out of that blood libel pepper and it is serving your side so well.

Thank you.

Thanks BHO, for that bitch-slap at the libs for trying to exploit this tragedy, and I agree with your reaction to the inappropriate “cheer-leading” expressed by the immature students who apparently didn’t understand that this was a time for somber reflection on how horrible an event this was.

“Obama bluntly conceded that there is no way to know what triggered the shooting rampage that left six people dead, 13 others wounded and the nation shaken.”

Now libs, end your exploitation of this event.

jim bronson 990cc said:
Will you get over the first line, it is from a movie.

Will the left get over ________ and give us the same courtesy? Treat others as you want to be treated yourselves. This is the largest problem we have today. The left thinks they can act any way they choose, if it suits them. Then, when the right gives them a dose of their own (what goes around) the left cries foul. Why? Why does that surprise or bother you; to get a similar behavior?

Look at the girl that wished death upon Sarah Palin on Facebook. Now, she wants people to stop saying mean things to her. Perhaps she should have thought about that before she opened her mouth. At some point, the adolescent liberals have to learn their own actions have consequences.

Still no mention of The Lie……….

jim bronson 990cc said:
Will you get over the first line, it is from a movie.

And?

They criticized RR for just saying “Go ahead, make my day.”

Tammy Bruce nails it.

http://tammybruce.com/2011/01/summing-up-the-tucson-obama-rally.html

“I can hear it now! “Oh Tammy, why so political!? How awful of you!!” of course, with a death threat thrown in and some crass misogynistic swear words from the Gestapo of Love and Unity for Everyone Except Some. For people shocked, just shocked at how I’m not being more ‘compassionate’ and genteel about this “event. Well, let me explain–Upon hearing the awful news Saturday morning, within an hour–even before we knew the number of dead–Barack Obama’s gestapos moved in for the kill–the Kill of Palin and the Kill of Conservatives in this country. For 5 days Tea Party, conservative and Sarah Palin were blamed for murder. I spent the weekend, as did so many others, not being allowed to grieve but having to listen to crass political smears and libel, while defending those falsely accused of horrific complicity.

Democrat and Republican leadership sat silent, including Barack Obama, as this nation was stomped on by grotesque beasts using the dead and maimed in an attempt to add a 20th victim–Sarah Palin–to the body count. Obama may have been silent and he could be–his gestapos were doing all the work. His machine knew what to do and they moved quickly. Their Massacre Cult chose their targets and went hunting, accusing innocents of the horror of being an accessory to murder to score political points.

So don’t wonder why I’m calling the charade tonight a charade. Despite all of us being faced with the ugliness of the liberal response, we also spent the last 5 days praying for the victims and being concerned for our nation. You will also see my concern in refusing to silently acquiesce or in faux praise for one of the most bizarre displays of manipulation of a tragedy I’ve ever seen. Was the speech good? I suppose considering what we’ve been put through this weekend by the very same people, reading the phone book would have moved some people to tears. If you lurved the speech, then let’s make the speechwriter president!”

Regarding the speech: http://twitter.com/glennbeck/status/25431975846215680

King, perhaps if your infinite posts about Palin weren’t all dripping with hatred, your argument that Palin is delusional about the hatred directed at her would have more validity.

The Real Royal King said:
Janet, thanks for your rousing defense of “Blood LIbel” in particular and anti-Semitism in general.

This from the man who gave us Bushfrei a la Judenfrei.on OW as in rid the world of jews and accuses someone (2012)of anti-semitism .b/c she used the word “cockroach”

The Real Royal King says:
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Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
The Real Royal King says:

Blah, Blah, Bhal

Hey does anyone know how to get rid of a giant cockroach?

You know the Nazis called Jews “Schaben” or cockroaches. I see you and Palin share this Anti-Semitic propensity.

Grammie said:
Grammie says:
January 13, 2011 at 1:03 pm

Let me add just one more thing.

TRRK doth protest too much. I wonder why.

Palin should talk about Jews the way Louie Farrakhan does. Then the King would be unable to comment.

Mr B said:
Will the left get over ________ and give us the same courtesy? Treat others as you want to be treated yourselves. This is the largest problem we have today. The left thinks they can act any way they choose, if it suits them. Then, when the right gives them a dose of their own (what goes around) the left cries foul. Why? Why does that surprise or bother you; to get a similar behavior? Look at the girl that wished death upon Sarah Palin on Facebook. Now, she wants people to stop saying mean things to her. Perhaps she should have thought about that before she opened her mouth. At some point, the adolescent liberals have to learn their own actions have consequences.

Again, it is a movie line. It is silly to portray it as something inflammatory.

notsofast said:
And? They criticized RR for just saying “Go ahead, make my day.”

Who is they?

Kim Barker said:
Can you turn off the Herr Beck tape on a loop in your head for one second.

This has nothing to do with beck, but regardless, you’re mostly wrong.

JamesA1102 said:
So what ever you don’t like it bad. And yes Social Security, Civil Rights have only hurt people over time.

Social Security is a Ponzi scheme, so yes, it ends up hurting future generations. It’s called generational theft.

Civil Right? You mean the ones that Al Gore’s dad voted against? It wasn’t Republicans who voted against it.

And don’t through the notion that the south soon turned Republican because of Civil Right. It turns Republican because they couldn’t stand the Modern Liberals/Progressives who were taking over the Democratic Party. Don’t forget, it’s the very same Modern Liberals/Progressives who basically enslaved the people in the inner cities. To this day, they control things.