Mediaite commentators have taken over the world.

Why is it that those who can’t shut up about how much they ‘love’ America, the founding fathers and the Constitution are the ones who spit on them on a regular basis?

Before all you leftist extremists boycott Lowes and go to Home Depot, let me remind you that the founder and several top executives of Home Deport have publicly denounced the anti-business rhetoric and regulations of the OBOZO regime and have stated that these have hurt their business and that OBOZO must go. 

So, I guess you guys won’t be dong home repairs anytime soon!

How is Lowe’s or anyone involved spitting on the Constitution?

TLC can air the show if they want.  Lowe’s has the right to support or not support the show if they want.  Seems to me everything is working as intended.

You can agree or disagree with Lowe’s decision here, but the Constitution applies to both sides of this situation in a good way.

This is a common business practice. Most businesses just want to stay away from controversy. Remember Target with its Gaga mess? Similar situation.

Or it could be that the TLC show isn’t getting enough views that a normal marketing/advertising department would want. Ad dollars aren’t worth it as much as they used to be.

There’s always Menards.  Or, better yet, locally owned businesses.

The ALL CAPS use of OBOZO is really effective.

GOP in 2012!

will the show have the Muslims that want to follow SHARIA law???  Will the show go into detail on what SHARIA is?  Will it show how sexist it is?  For some strange reason i think such controversial subject will not be in it and it will portray a false representation of an average Muslim family. Something that would fit a liberals democrats view of an average Muslim family but not “keeping it real” ;)

Good on Lowes.

Ok Fox List all the Advertisers that Jumped the Shark on Glenn Beck’s program

Why good on Lowe’s?

Better to support your local hardware stores, rather than Lowes.

Fundies are such disgusting hypocrites. They claim they are being attacked for their religious beliefs, all the while they are attacking other people for their religious beliefs.

I admit, I lol’d.

The media have tried this before. Remember The Jeffersons, The Cosby Show, Chico and the Man, Soul train? The American Public didn’t buy it and turned to documentaries like 24.

Home Depot supports the LGBT community. 
http://action.afa.net/item.aspx?id=2147496231
Don’t worry, douche.

How many “average Muslim” families do you know? I don’t mean you happen to work with someone, or that family down the block. How MANY do you KNOW? If you know enough Muslim families to qualify you to make such broad generalizations, isn’t that a problem given your negative perceptions of them? If you aren’t that familiar with Muslim families, then why are you commenting while ignorant?

A common business practice to kowtow to bigots?

He can’t say it. That’s not how the game is played today. If he says “good on Lowes” he can support bigotry without being explicit, leaving just enough wiggle room to take the cowards way out when accused of being a bigot. If he actually said what he meant, it would be obvious, even more so than it already is, what he is.

Gotta say, I’m torn on this on this one.   I watched a few minutes of the show and while its good to show that many muslims are ‘just like everyone else’, the religious views shown by the piece I saw felt like the women’s movement hadn’t happened yet.  As a strong, independent woman, I turned the channel.  If I were an exec at any company, I wouldn’t advertise on this show either.

The men can do as they please, the daughter had more restrictions simply because she’s a woman.  The mother worked outside the house, but at work had to hide her face with the hijab (?) some places but not when around male family members.   I wanted to pull these women and explain that in the US, women can do anything, and there’s no need to live like its 1950 still.  Way too 1950′s anti women’s basic human rights, and for that reason, I can see a sponsor getting out of the sponsorship.   

I’m sorry but do you have any Muslim friends? You know…most of them (esp. in the USA) do not 80% of the things you think they do. Just shows you how ignorant some of you people are. That’s like thinking all Christians behave like the Westboro Baptist clowns. 

sez the sock puppet wielding bigot

Spoken like a true bigot. 

double standards much?

Let’s see how many “I’m not a bigot” types post in defense of Lowe’s, the FFA, or their supporters.

I will go out of my way now and shop at Lowes!

 I love it when a company does not cave into political correctness gone amok! So many companies are scared of the smallest minority groups instead of listing to the majority! Finally a company like Lowes listens to the majority!

I will now shop at Lowes for my home improvement needs. 

You’re making the assumption that muslim women who wear hijabs do so because they are forced, which may or may not be the case.

It’s hard for teabaggers to type while their uncledads are licking their ears.

Any congress person who tries to attack Lowe’s must think we live in Venezuela or China.  Lowe’s can choose to advertise wherever, whenever.   Democrats really need to stop trying to stop acting like Hugo Chavez, he’s a terrible role model to choose.

Nice to see you have time to reply to my post with a nonsense question. Since I’ve got your attention though, there was another poster who wanted you to respond to his question. You posted “Good on Lowes.” He wanted to know why you said that.

BTW are you’re not that clown formerly known as Texan are you? If so why the change in handle? Did you acquiesce to my request for you to stop embarrassing that state through association, or were you banned and simply didn’t have the pride to stay away?

Hr struck a nerve didn’t he, son?

I’m sure your mother will appreciate that.

Asks the lib bigot anti-christian and anti-Semite.

Have you ever seen Hogan Knows Best? If not it’s no big loss, but I definitely didn’t see anyone complaining about White America based off of Hogan’s antics.

One of your far left loon co-horts or maybe you jacked my name so I changed it. Got a problem with that?

Since when is treating Muslim Americans like other Americans “political correctness”?

The real political correctness going on here is that right wingers get offended when the marketplace does not reflect the skewed hyperbolic fantasies of the far right.

Rude.

It’s sad to see Lowe’s cave to right-wing political correctness.

When they show respect for all of our fellow Americans, I’ll be happy to shop there again.

I love it.  The very same conservatives who ACTUALLY want to impose a Christian version of sharia law on this nation throw a shit fit over American Muslims who have made absolutely no attempt to do any such thing.

Believe it or not, it turns out that NOT hating Muslims doesn’t mean you DO hate Christians and Jews. 

son believe it or not, the libs on Mediaite hate Christians and Jews!

No, I thought I’d give the show a shot, and and watched about ten minutes.  The woman explained to co-workers when she wears the hijab, and how if she’s withe male family members, she did not wear it   Then the daughter complained (liked her!) that her brother had more rights to do simply because he’s a boy, and she wasn’t happy about it (you go girl!)

I couldn’t take it, I had to switch.  I make no assumptions, I just literally felt like I was watching an old 50′s show.  

Er … Lowes was trying to maximize their profits by advertising in a show, which offends a small bigoted minority.

Political correctness is about not offending people, which is exactly what Lowes succumbed to in this case, so your point is kind of ironic.

Political correctness would be an action taken to AVOID insulting a group who are discriminated against.

You and your ilk are NOT avoiding an action, but rather willfully taking an action to shut down these people.

The aired an episode with one of the family members disagreeing with those mores, that sounds like a positive thing to air instead of hide!

BTW, I guess an Amish, Mennonite or very fundamentalist Christian reality show would offend you too right? 

But it’s not a show about an average Muslim family, it’s a show about an average Muslim American family.  Why do you keep from putting that word American after Muslim?  The average Muslim American family, which I know a few, are surprising not sexist, nor do they follow only Sharia law and ignore the laws of America.  See, it is very much “keeping it real” since the story is about Americans not Extremist Muslims that seem to take all the air time on news channels creating the false representation that is placed on Muslim Americans.  My Muslim American friend loves this country, and the only thing she doesn’t care for is how she was viewed after 9/11, as a non-American, which is not a real representation of her.

Could’ve sworn America was founded on RELIGIOUS FREEDOM

What a bunch of racist fools.

Believe or not, asshat, this liberal on Mediaite is a Jew.  So really, do please STFU.

LOL

I struck a nerve in another name calling hater lib!

Yeah it’s a good thing they chose religious discrimination over political correctness. 

stoneparkIV:  “I struck a nerve in another name calling hater lib! I bet you are a self-hater too!”

You managed to be hypocritical twice in the same sentence, as far as the name-calling goes.  You entertain me, thank you stonepark. 

Poor boy, I always like it when you prove I have struck a nerve and ya just did it again.

And pointing out the hate of a name calling lib is not hypocrisy, it’s a fact!

Now get me my coffee, son!

“Got a problem with that?”

See my previous comments advocating for you to change your name, as you were doing a disservice to all Texan’s through your association

BTW, that person is still waiting on you to explain your “Good on Lowes” remark.

They have a right to pull their ads…. just like we have the right to call them out for appeasement of bigotry.

the Florida Family Association, a conservative group.”

Funny, I never saw Mediaite call the OWSers a “liberal group.”

So “religious freedom” means private companies have to run your advertisements? Since when?

And make up your mind- are they bigots or racists?

You call it “striking a nerve.”  I call it “batting practice.”  Everything you throw gets smashed out of the park by another commenter or bounces 4 feet short of the plate.  I’d like another pitch now, son. 

I don’t even know if that’s the real stonepark creature or that spoof that was created. Honestly, who cares? Anyone reading that thing’s comments can see that it doesn’t have any more credibility than the joke that was created to mock it. The thing was created to troll, whether you’re talking about the original or the mimicry. It really doesn’t make a difference which one it is, they equally ridiculous. The goal is to troll, and repeat other phrases such as “struck a nerve.” You’d be hard pressed to find one comment by that creature, even before its account was deleted, where it attempted to provide anything remotely constructive, as opposed to trolling. So, though I appreciate the support, rather than let it get to you, just sit back and let it be a useful tool. The same way you can gauge the idiots and bigots by their reaction to this article, you can gauge who they are through their support of that creature. 

So, Mediaite can’t call them conservative because in your mind they are non-partisan organization, despite the following statement on their website?

“There is a coalition of people with an assortment of strong viewpoints
who stand against traditional, God fearing Americans. This bloc of
people is commonly referred to as secular progressives. ”
……

man, Ialways, that really wasn’t worth even posting, son.  You are nature’s greatest soporific .

MG, I got Censure crying again. Son, I will send ya a crying towel and man, you take so many words to say nothing, nada, zip!

son, where did I say they couldn’t call ‘em conservative?

I guess you like to make things up, but the fact is that I have never seen  Mediaite refer to the OWSers as a “lib group.”

Maybe because, unlike this Florida organization, they have never made an attempt to associate themselves with a political party.

I think they will benefit from kowtowing to the bigots.  Sad but true.

“man, Ialways, that really wasn’t worth even posting, son. ”

Then don’t. 

But a certain political party associated itself with the OWSers, son!!!!

President Obama: “We are on their side.”

Nancy Pelosi on OWS: “God bless them.”

DCCC: “GOAL 100,000 STRONG STANDING WITH OCCUPY WALL STREET”

Elizabeth Warren:”“I created much of the intellectual foundation for what they do.”

Rep. Barbara Lee (D-Calif.):”All of us should join that movement.”

http://nicedeb.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/the-ows-hall-of-shame-democrats-who-supported-the-occupy-wall-street-movement/

http://www.itgetsbetter.org

One day at a time SP, one day at a time.

Regarding OWS:

 “I can argue the case for their right to express their outright frustration with what is going on. Some are liberals and some are conservatives and some are libertarians and some are strict constitutionalists.”

–Republican Presidential candidate Ron Paul

A Christian version of Sharia Law? What is that, exactly, and where did you get that idea?

I remember when mediaite called those boycotting Beck and FNC, liberal bigots and haters of free speech…oh wait a minute.  Mediaite only goes after “conservative” groups.
Geez.

You used to be NUTSO.  Did he get banned and you had to come back as someone else.  You people don’t fool most of us!

Freeking only in Florida!

So you assume the authoritarian conservative Christian fundamentalist and authoritarian Jewish Zionist is what defines Christianity and Judaism.  And anybody who leans left of these religious ideologies and challenges their beliefs “hates” Christians and Jews.  Well, stoneparkIV, after reading your ignorant comments I would suggest you are the one that is doing the hating around here.

I’m sure it was purely a business decision.  They want to reach the largest audience with their advertising dollers.  And since no one watches the show, it was a sound decision.  Also, since they don’t sell dynamite they can’t even attract the suicide bombers that do tune in.

They’re not conservative groups; they’re Republicans.

Because all Republicans are systematically trained to believe precisely the opposite of the truth.

It’s an interesting question.  If Lowe’s were to refuse to sell to sell their wares to Muslims out of bigotry, they would certainly be in violation of the law.  But because Lowe’s is refusing to do advertising with TLC out of bigotry, it presents a whole new scenario — perhaps an unexplored area of law.

Since you KNOW THEM and all, please tell us why they first agreed to sponsor/advertise during the show.

Some conservatives are so damned stupid. A lot of your comments are as ridiculous as saying Mormons and Mennonites, the amish, etc, are what all Christians are like. I’m Muslim, but I don’t subscribe to Sharia, I enjoy a good beer from time to time, and like Bacon, but my values, and beliefs come from Islam. But I pick and choose what I will believe in, like many non fundamentalist Christians do with their bible and Reform Jews do too. So instead of shitting on everyone in your path, why not try and have a more nuanced approach to your life and opinions? Asking too much. Yeah.. 

You mean like the religious bigots on the left?

And do you remember WHY THAT WAS?

Please show us the “racism” that this TLC program exspoused that is equal to that of Beck’s.
I’ll wait.

Racists. Show me where I called them bigots.

Dear Jon:  Can you please tell the readers here what Islam believes in terms of homosexuality and women’s rights?  Thanks, Tina.

And if they didn’t want to advertise, why did they agree to in the first place?

Good!  Islam denigrates woman.

For the love of Allah!!!

This is why we can’t have nice things in America.

Or where can I get some
advertising dollers?

I believe you are right.

Not only true, but very sad.

False equivalence.

IDIOT.

Sadly, my not visiting Lowes will not hurt them.

political correctness

It is legislating Christianity, and I got that idea from every single time I ever turned on a television to hear a rabid right-winger wax eloquent on this being a “Christian nation,” despite the fact that the words “God” and “Christianity” never even appear in the Constitution.

According to the far right, they have a right to live in a world where they are not exposed to things they don’t like.  Therefore, according to this far right fantasy, when everyone else gets to live their lives without regard to what the far right thinks, the far right thinks its rights are being impinged upon.  In their book, “freedom” means freedom to live as the far right sees fit.

When you put it like that…

Ha!

By that standard, any show about Christians should point out when they fail to adhere to biblical guidelines, such as when they loan money for interest, fail to stone adulterers, or sit on chairs previously occupied by menstrating females.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXdYrERzrWg

Well said.
Thanks.

This might help the politically correct sensibilities of the far right:

A new “fairness doctrine” under which any broadcast network that airs a story depicting Muslims as regular human beings must balance it with another story depicting Muslim-Americans as depraved religious psychopaths.

: )

Dumb?

If pointing out a typo is your strongest retort I must be doing something right, widdleboy.

First, I’m not offended.  But I had the same reaction to their show about ‘gypsies’ living in the US.  The girls were taught to be servant to their men, and I wouldn’t advertise on that show either.   

Muhammed said the Angel of God showed him Hell and that most in Hell were women.

And here I thought the Tealiban only hated Muslims when they were building shit near Ground Zero.

That’s what they claimed.  It was all about “location”.

lol…turns out the location just happens to be America.

Bigoted fundie assholes.

It’s probably a good decision by Lowe’s considering where they are headquartered and the political alliances of their primary shoppers.

Although, I wouldn’t have even known this show existed if it weren’t for Lowe’s pulling out. Perhaps in a way it’s backwards advertizing.

So do the liberals agree with the Islamic policy of dealing with any  ”gay problelm”?

Yes! The Future Farmers of America must repent!!!

(sorry….I couldn’t resist)

Muhammed demanded the hand of Aisha, his child bride, when she was just 6 years old.  He consummated the marriage when Aisha turned just 9 years old.

How is this any different than libs protesting/boycotting target? If it’s ok for you guys to put pressure on retailers it’s certainly fair for conservatives to put pressure on retailers s well, right?

Muhammed taught that drinking camel urine was good for one’s health.

Muhammed wrote in his hadiths that the angel of God showed him where the sun rests at night.  Must have been some angel not to show Muhammed the world was round.

Volume 7, Book 62, Number 124:

Narrated Usama:The Prophet said, “I stood at the gate of Paradise and saw that the majority of the people who entered it were the poor, while the wealthy were stopped at the gate (for the accounts). But the companions of the Fire were ordered to be taken to the Fire. Then I stood at the gate of the Fire and saw that the majority of those who entered it were women.”

Ishaq 593 - ”As for Ali, he said, ‘Women are plentiful, and you can easily change one for another.’”

Sahih Al-Bukhari: Volume 4, Book 54, Number 539:
Narrated Abu Talha:The Prophet said, ”Angels do not enter a house which has either a dog or a picture in it.”
Sahih Al-Bukhari: Volume 4, Book 54, Number 540:

Narrated ‘Abdullah bin ‘Umar:Allah’s Apostle ordered that the dogs should be killed.

Sahih Al-Bukhari: Volume 4, Book 54, Number 516:
Narrated Abu Huraira:The Prophet said, “If anyone of you rouses from sleep and performs the ablution, he should wash his nose by putting water in it and then blowing it out thrice, because Satan has stayed in the upper part of his nose all the night.”

Sahih Al-Bukhari: Volume 1, Book 4, Number 155:
Narrated Abu Qatada:Allah’s Apostle said, “Whenever anyone of you drinks water, he should not breathe in the drinking utensil, and whenever anyone of you goes to a lavatory, he should neither touch his penis nor clean his private parts with his right hand.”

ahih Al-Bukhari: Volume 1, Book 4, Number 137:

Narrated Abu Huraira:Allah’s Apostle said, ”The prayer of a person who does Hadath (passes, urine, stool or wind) is not accepted till he performs (repeats) the ablution.” A person from Hadaramout asked Abu Huraira, “What is ‘Hadath’?” Abu Huraira replied, ” ‘Hadath’ means the passing of wind from the anus.”

Sahih Al-Bukhari: Volume 4, Book 54, Number 509:
Narrated Abu Huraira:The Prophet said, ”Yawning is from Satan and if anyone of you yawns, he should check his yawning as much as possible, for if anyone of you (during the act of yawning) should say: ‘Ha’, Satan will laugh at him.”

Sahih Al-Bukhari: Volume 1, Book 2, Number 28:
Narrated Ibn ‘Abbas:The Prophet said: ”I was shown the Hell-fire and that the majority of its dwellers were women who were ungrateful.” 

Women are deficient in intelligence
Sahih Al-Bukhari: Volume 1, Book 6, Number 301:
Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri:Once Allah’s Apostle went out to the Musalla (to offer the prayer) o ‘Id-al-Adha or Al-Fitr prayer. Then he passed by the women and said, “O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women).” They asked, “Why is it so, O Allah’s Apostle ?” He replied, ”You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you.” The women asked, “O Allah’s Apostle! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?” He said, ”Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?” They replied in the affirmative. He said, “This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Isn’t it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?” The women replied in the affirmative. He said, “This is the deficiency in her religion.”

Women in paradise – they are there for men’s use
Sahih Al-Bukhari: Volume 6, Book 60, Number 402:
Narrated Abdullah bin Qais:Allah’s Apostle said, “In Paradise there is a pavilion made of a single hollow pearl sixty miles wide, in each corner of which there are wives who will not see those in the other corners; and the believers will visit and enjoy them. And there are two gardens, the utensils and contents of which are made of silver; and two other gardens, the utensils and contents of which are made of so-and-so (i.e. gold) and nothing will prevent the people staying in the Garden of Eden from seeing their Lord except the curtain of Majesty over His Face.”

What should happen to someone who gives up Islam? (Apostasy)
Sahih Al-Bukhari: Volume 4, Book 52, Number 260:
Narrated Ikrima:Ali burnt some people and this news reached Ibn ‘Abbas, who said, “Had I been in his place I would not have burnt them, as the Prophet said, ‘Don’t punish (anybody) with Allah’s Punishment.’ No doubt, I would have killed them, for the Prophet said, ’If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.’ “

Muhammad’s sexual appetite
Sahih Al-Bukhari: Volume 1, Book 5, Number 268:
Narrated Qatada:Anas bin Malik said, ”The Prophet used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day and night and they were eleven in number.” I asked Anas, “Had the Prophet the strength for it?” Anas replied, “We used to say that the Prophet was given the strength of thirty (men).” And Sa’id said on the authority of Qatada that Anas had told him about nine wives only (not eleven).

Fly in your drink? – don’t worry, drink up
Sahih Al-Bukhari: Volume 4, Book 54, Number 537:
Narrated Abu Huraira:The Prophet said “If a house fly falls in the drink of anyone of you, he should dip it (in the drink), for one of its wings has a disease and the other has the cure for the disease.”

An All-American Muslim is an aberration, almost a myth.  Being a Muslim is to be part of a quasi-nationalist culture that puts Allah and Muhammed before everything.  And that means America!

How easily led to their own demise a plurality of Americans have allowed themselves to be.
The Muslim Koranic law called “Taqiyaa” allows, even urges the faithful to deceive and defraud, thus lie to infidels.

How can anyone enter into a contract or agreement with a culture that applauds mendacity?

Personally, I am tired of babysitting Liberals who will not defend their nation or themselves.  Take note: If liberals are foolish enough to wander into no-man’s land, keep on walking…

Purveyor

I watched the show in question, it was pure propaganda from the first minute to the last.

“TMP”

You sure you want to stick with that? I think the DSCC may have issues with your comment:

https://dscc.org/act4?action_KEY=300

What would you estimate the Obama re-election is with OWS’ers?  98-99%? 

The religious right in America base their hated of Muslims on the assumption that every Muslim follows every letter of the Koran. Meanwhile, there is no member of the religious right who follows every letter of the Bible.

But if that’s how you justify lumping over a 1 billion people into the same box, then go nuts (and I do mean “nuts”. Cause you people are nuts!).

Muslims are loyal to their Koran first.  EVERY Muslim must be homage to his KORAN first or they would be subject to being put to death.

I don’t shop at those stores for the right reason: they helped to hollow out the American economy. Whenever I went into one of those stores, I saw a bunch of people in smocks who could be making all that shit 40 hours a week at 20 bucks an hour. Instead, they’re stocking and selling it 27 hours a week at 10 bucks an hour. 

Well said.

Remember Redlining? That wasn’t overtly racist individuals. It was real estate people recognizing that peoples’ existing racism was a market force, which encouraged a  self-fulfilling prophesy. 

I don’t even know how to respond to such ignorance.
I mean, honestly, can we deport stupid people?
Send them to Stupid Island?

If you’re going to judge all Muslims by the Koran, you must therefore also judge all Christians by what is in the Bible:

Leviticus 24:16:  “And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the Lord, shall be put to death.”

Dueteronomy 13:6-10:
“If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which [is] as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; 
“[Namely], of the gods of the people which [are] round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the [one] end of the earth even unto the [other] end of the earth; 
“Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: 
“But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. 
“And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.”

The Bible contains explicit commands that Christians be violent to those of other faiths or nonbelievers.  Yet you aren’t condemning Christians along with Muslims.  I wonder why that might be…

I thought Christians are also supposed to place their faith above all else, including family and country.  By your formulation, Christians should be of suspect loyalty as well.

No, because they’re entitled to rights that they spend most of their time trying to deny to others.

On the other hand, Goldy might be right. I was on FoxNation.com and a poster said that every single Muslim on Earth thinks exactly the same thing about every subject. There is no deviation from Koranic teachings at all. This FoxNation.com poster said that he heard whenever a Muslim anywhere on Earth fails to follow even one letter of the Koran, they are dragged from their homes and put to death.

When I read that post on FoxNation.com, I thought, “can that be true? I come to FoxNation.com for rational thought and intelligent discourse, so I know this person isn’t joking.”

So, I don’t know, Goldy could be right.

Psycho teabaggers strike again…

wow Goldy very Impressive wanna see my trick?

The biblical God is guilty of wartime atrocities.  After bringing the Israelites out of captivity in Egypt, he ordered them to attack King Sihon of Heshbon.  So the Israelites “put to death everyone in the cities, men, women, and dependents” and “left no survivor.”[14]God then told them to do the same to King Og of Bashan.  The Israelites therefore “slaughtered them and left no survivor.”[15]  The book of Psalms cites these massacres as proof that the Lord’s “love endures for ever.”[16]In resettling the Israelites after the Egyptian sojourn, God instructed them to steal the land of seven nations.  And he told them to “not leave any creature alive. You shall annihilate them. . . .”[17]   As a result, the Israelites utterly wiped out various peoples.  An example is when Joshua’s army attacked Jericho and “put everyone to the sword, men and women, young and old. . . .”[18]  Later, the Lord told Joshua to do the same to the people of Ai.[19]In obedience to the Lord’s commands, Joshua’s army did likewise to many other cities.  The Israelites “put every living soul to the sword until they had destroyed every one; they did not leave alive any one that drew breath.”[20]  If the accounts given in the Bible are accepted, there were millions of men, women, and children exterminated in this conquest of the Promised Land.[21]All of the carnage was ordered by God.  And the Old Testament contains other stories depicting him as acting just as horribly.At God’s command, the Israelites made war on Midian, slew all the men, and burned their cities.[22]  Moses was angry, however, because they had spared the women and children. So he ordered the soldiers to “kill every male dependent, and kill every woman who has had intercourse with a man, but spare for yourselves every woman among them who has not had intercourse.”[23]  Shortly thereafter, God gave Moses instructions for distributing the captive virgins among the fighting men and the community.[24]The prophet Samuel gave Saul these instructions from the Lord: “Go now and fall upon the Amalekites and destroy them. . . . Spare no one; put them all to death, men and women, children and babes in arms, herds and flocks, camels and asses.”[25]Isaiah reports that on the day of the Lord’s anger against Babylon: “All who are found will be stabbed, all who are taken will fall by the sword; their infants will be dashed to the ground before their eyes. . . .”[26]Ezekiel claims that God appointed men to punish Jerusalem for its “abominations.”  The Lord told them to “kill without pity; spare no one. Kill and destroy them all, old men and young, girls, little children and women. . . .”[27]In the book of II Chronicles, there is another report of the Lord’s anger breaking out against Jerusalem.  This time he “brought against them the king of the Chaldaeans, who put their young men to the sword . . . and spared neither young man nor maiden, neither the old nor the weak. . . .”[28]Jeremiah denounces those who won’t do the killings desired by the Almighty.  He declares: “A curse on him who is slack in doing the Lord’s work!  A curse on him who withholds his sword from bloodshed!”[29]The New Testament’s depiction of God is hardly more favorable.  The book of Revelation states that in the end times, heavenly power and a sword will be given to a rider on a horse.  He will be allowed to make men slaughter one another.[30]Another rider will be granted similar divine authority, including power to kill with the sword over a quarter of the earth.[31]  Later, four angels and their cavalry of 200 million will go forth to slay a third of mankind.[32]This destruction is preliminary to Christ himself coming on a white horse, leading the armies of heaven.  A sharp sword will extend from his mouth to smite the nations, whose armies will be killed by the sword.[33]These acts by Christ are consistent with his teaching that he came “not . . . to bring peace, but a sword.”[34]  And they show that he, like his father, supports the most extreme violence as a means of addressing problems.PestilenceAnother punishment God frequently employs is to inflict diseases on people.  After the Exodus from Egypt, the Israelites complained about having no meat to eat while wandering in the wilderness.  Then the “Lord’s anger broke out against the people and he struck them with a deadly plague.”[35]Not having learned their lesson, the people later complained about the leadership of Moses and Aaron.  So God sent a plague that killed 14,700 more of them.[36]In another instance, God used a plague to kill 24,000 Israelites because they had worshiped the gods of the Midianites.  This plague was stopped only when Phinehas, after seeing an Israelite man take a Midianite woman into the man’s family, put his spear through both of them together.[37]  God praised Phinehas and rewarded him for the act.[38] God used the same punishment on subsequent generations.  He sent a pestilence that killed 70,000 men because King David took a census.[39]After King Uzziah of Judah offended the Lord by burning incense in the temple, God struck him with leprosy so that “he remained a leper till the day of his death. . . .”[40]God forewarned his prophets of similar divine retribution.  He revealed to Jeremiah his intent to “strike down those who live in this city, men and cattle alike; they shall die of a great pestilence.”[41]The prophet Ezekiel said that because Jerusalem had not followed God’s ways, it would be consumed “without pity” and a third of the people “shall die by pestilence.”[42]This form of punishment, however, proved to be ineffective.  Through the prophet Amos, the Lord complained to his people that although he had “sent plague upon you like the plagues of Egypt,” they still did not return to him.[43]Nevertheless, the New Testament shows that God will continue the same behavior.  The book of Revelation states that one of the four horsemen of the Apocalypse will be given power over a quarter of the earth, including power to kill by pestilence.[44]  And the same book reveals part of the doom God announced for Rome: the city will be struck with pestilence.[45]FamineGod uses famines to torment and kill people.  After David angered him by taking the census, God said one of the punishments David could choose was three years of famine.[46]  But David wisely chose pestilence, thinking it would be a milder punishment from God.[47]  He thereby limited the Lord to killing a mere 70,000 men.[48]On other occasions, God’s people didn’t get off so easy.  Isaiah announces that Jerusalem has “drunk from the Lord’s hand the cup of his wrath,” including “havoc and ruin, famine and the sword.”[49]Jeremiah says God promised to make an end to the people of Judah by “sword, with famine and pestilence.”[50]  And the Lord pledged to do the same to any nation that would not submit to his “servant” Nebuchadrezzar, the Babylonian king.[51]According to Ezekiel, God vowed to spend his anger on Israel by causing men to fall by sword, famine, and pestilence.[52]  An annotation in The New English Bibleexplains that those are the three traditional scourges by which God punishes his people.[53]Ezekiel quotes the Lord as saying about Jerusalem: “When I shoot the deadly arrows of famine against you, arrows of destruction, I will shoot to destroy you.”[54]The book of Lamentations shows that this was no idle threat.  It describes one of God’s famines by saying “children and infants faint in the streets . . . and cry to their mothers.”  We are also told “they faint like wounded things . . . gasping out their lives. . . .”[55]Lamentations goes on to observe: “My virgins and my young men have fallen by sword and by famine; thou hast slain them in the day of thy anger, slaughtered them without pity.”[56]But famine proved no more effective than pestilence in changing people’s behavior.  Amos reports that God complained: “It was I who kept teeth idle in all your cities, who brought famine on all your settlements; yet you did not come back to me. This is the very word of the Lord.”[57]As was true with pestilence, though, the God of the New Testament intends to continue using this punishment.  The book of Revelation claims that the third of the four horsemen of the Apocalypse will be given divine authority to cause famine on earth.[58]Likewise, the fourth rider will have power to inflict famine over a quarter of the world.[59]  And the book says famine is another punishment God has in store for Rome.[60]Fire

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God likes to burn people.  There is the story of him raining fire and brimstone on the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah.  By this means, he “destroyed all the Plain, with everything living there.”[61]Similar punishment was dealt to two of Aaron’s sons, who presented “illicit fire” before the Lord.  In response: “Fire came out from before the Lord and destroyed them; and so they died in the presence of the Lord.”[62]After several Israelites led 250 men in rebellion against Moses’ authority, “fire [went] out from the Lord and burnt up the two hundred and fifty men.”[63]At Elijah’s request, fire came down from heaven and consumed two companies of the king of Samaria’s men.[64]  And the Lord promised to use fire to punish Jerusalem,[65] Babylon,[66] Egypt,[67] and various other places.[68]In speaking of a king favored by the Lord, the book of Psalms says God will have fire consume the king’s enemies and exterminate their offspring from the earth.[69]  As for the wicked in general, the same book claims that the Almighty “shall rain down red-hot coals upon the wicked; brimstone and scorching winds shall be the cup they drink. For the Lord is just. . . .”[70]God ordered his people to use fire as a punishment.  The Law of Moses states that if the daughter of a priest becomes a prostitute, she must be burnt to death.[71]The New Testament also favors incineration.  According to the book of Luke, Jesus said he came “to set fire to the earth.”[72]  And the book of Hebrews asserts: “our God is a devouring fire.”[73]In describing the end times, the book of Revelation reports that after an angel blows a trumpet, fire mingled with blood will be cast upon the earth.  This will result in a third of the earth being burnt.[74]The same book tells us that other angels will lead 200 million mounted troops, whose horses will spew fire, smoke, and sulfur from their mouths to kill a third of humankind.[75]  Shortly thereafter, power will be given to two of the Lord’s witnesses, enabling them to pour fire from their mouths and consume their enemies.[76]Further, the book of Revelation says an angel will pour one of the “bowls of God’s wrath” on the sun, and the sun will then “burn men with its flames.”[77]  Near the end of the book, we are informed that God will cause Rome to be burned.[78]  And the book claims that when Satan’s followers battle against the Lord, fire will come down from heaven and consume them.[79]

I could go on all night but my cut and paste finger is hurting.

Ahhhh what the hell Goldy heres one more for ya

Killing babies is another method God uses to express his anger.  As already noted, babies were drowned in the worldwide Flood,[100] Egyptian babies were among the firstborn killed at the Passover,[101] and babies were killed in the wars of extermination.[102]This divine punishment was also used after King David succeeded in having a loyal Israeli soldier, Uriah, killed in battle.  David selfishly took this act in order to steal Uriah’s wife, Bathsheba.Although David was the one who committed premeditated murder, the son Bathsheba bore to him received the brunt of God’s punishment.  God, in his infinite wisdom and justice, punished David by killing the baby.[103]Isaiah says a similar punishment would be used against the Babylonians.  He quotes the Lord as vowing that “infants will be dashed to the ground before their eyes. . . . I will stir up against them the Medes, . . . who have no pity on little children and spare no mother’s son. . . .”[104]The book of Psalms indicates that those inflicting this punishment can enjoy it.  The book says about Babylon: “Happy is he who shall seize your children and dash them against the rock.”[105]Hosea prophesizes that Samaria will receive the same treatment.  He explains: “Samaria will become desolate because she has rebelled against her God; her babes will fall by the sword and be dashed to the ground, her women with child shall be ripped up.”[106]The Bible also teaches that God is willing to test people by having their offspring slaughtered.  The Lord allowed Satan to kill Job’s sons and daughters to see if Job would then curse God.[107]The New Testament also contains a murderous attitude toward the young.  The book of Hebrews attests to the Lord’s horrible acts at the time of the Passover, but does not disapprove of them.[108]And the book of Revelation indicates that Christ will behave similarly.  As for a certain false prophetess who will lead his servants astray, the book quotes Jesus as promising to throw her on a bed of pain and strike her children dead.[109]Then he explains: “This will teach all the churches that I am the searcher of men’s hearts and thoughts, and that I will reward each one of you according to his deeds.”[110]  It would not have been difficult to find a humane way to convey those lessons.

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The Law of Moses requires the death penalty for other acts, too.  They include blasphemy,[124] adultery,[125] homosexuality,[126] worshipping other gods,[127] being a witch[128] or medium,[129] being a false prophet,[130] and not being a virgin on one’s wedding night.[131]

So Christians do not put Jesus and the Bible before everything? So u don’t like them because they are very devoted to their religion? I am an Atheist and i find it rather disturbing that this is such a big deal. Where was the outrage when Big Love was put on the air? It is a very popular show by the way. This is ridiculous! I didn’t even know about this show until today. Most American Muslims are just like Christian Americans who’s only wrong doing is to believe in fairy tales written by uneducated goat herders. 

Excellent observation!

Islam is 600 years younger than Christianity, and it shows in various cultural behaviors. Do you agree?

The Founding Fathers were men of their time, and men of their time were religious, to varying degrees. Yet, the Founders created a Constitution and a Nation founded on secular humanism, yet managed to keep God in the equation.

Such begs the question: what would make for better law and Government, reason, or, emotion? Ethics or morals? God, or, Man?

Historically, Christianity has easily as much to answer for as Islam, however, Islam in its current permutation has sought to do exactly the opposite of what Jefferson, Madison, and Washington, did. Islam has made Church and State, indistinguishable

Conversely, the Founders by way of the enlightenment, sought to maintain and define a”wall” between church and State. Unfortunately, there are Christian sects that want to weaken, even tear down the wall. What those sects fail to notice is by doing such, they become the “monster,” they pursue? Meaning they will be little different from Islam.

In this short piece, I have made a case for America, the Founders, the Constitution and God. Hopefully one can see how very different and enlightened America was and is from what came before and what lay before us?

Purveyor

I am not sure whether or not to be polite, as your comment is crude and disjointed. However, contained within are kernels of dialogue that could be interesting.

The reason you don’t perceive a threat from the “Muslim Reality Show,” is because others are providing you a blanket of protection, so that YOU may have your atheist eccentricities!

I conclude that assessment should suffice. LOL

Purveyor

The difference is…Muslims actually go out and butcher, maim and kill people.

Christians don’t even beat wives anymore!  Most of them anyway.

Purveyor

Oh wait, someone undoubtedly will attempt to argue that because westerners kill terrorists, we’re just as bad?  Am I right?  LOL

Wow – you really know NOTHING about Islam.., good for you ya xenophobic fool.

Wow Purveyor- you’re another idiot that doesn’t know anything about Islam.  Good for you!
Taqiyaa is a Shi’a principal that allows Muslims to be deceitful ONLY when hiding their religion to keep from being persecuted or harmed for simply being Islam.  It’s like being allowed to claim you’re not a Jew during WWII to keep from being put to death.

Or, in your case, to lie about being an idiot so you’re not accidentally institutionalized for being retarded.

“Wow” TWOE, I have no doubt that my intellect and knowledge eclipse that of yours. Furthermore, “Intellect” and “knowledge” are very different things. For instance, a criminal can have intellect but, lack useable knowledge.

Back to subject of “Taqiyaa.” You are the one who is incorrect. But, rather than debating the definition, lets discuss the Islamic proclivity for changing definitions capriciously, within the Sharia and Koran.

In fact, Christians too are known to take such liberties with the Bible… Moreover, religious history has examples of a book or priest class that make up the law as they go? How about a nice vacation to the Oracle at Delphi? LOL

Now go away and don’t come back until you can play nice and be polite.

The Purveyor of Rhetoric

It sure must have been a boring reality show. Was anyone stoned to death ?
They should sex it up.
It’s so hard to remember all of the Muslim voices speaking up in disgust after 911.. We should list them somewhere. Maybe on the back of a cereal box. There were so many I can’t count that high.

Nice run…

A clever parody that would make.  A method of exposing “contextual equal protection,” which has become more and more manifest, as of recent?

You have your moments, both good and bad.  I like this idea.

Purveyor

So you want to change the subject now that you’ve been found out as a fraud?  Typical.  Go peddle your red herring elsewhere weasel.

“Purveyor” of red herrings…lol.

The teeth-gnashing experienced by some conservatives over the portrayal of an “all-American Muslim family” on television is similar to what many white southerners would have felt while watching a program about a middle-class suburban black family in the 1960s.

Apparently you missed my point:

LIke the Koran, like Sharia, like the Bible, etc. Taqiyaa is and will be, whatever the powers that be, make it.

YOU claim “Taqiyaa” is more limited than do I. That doesn’t matter as theocratic law is a bit, “serendipity!” Ouch

As for your personality and/or demeanor, its awful. You could use anger counseling?

it’s out of bigotry is it?  Perhaps they are just not into that particular show.
I’ve watched it – just to see what it’s about and it’s damn stupid at times.

They work the same line ad nauseam.  They had the kids practicing like crazy and not allowing them to eat or drink because of Ramadan.   Very important game – (yah right) and then their excuse when they got their asses handed to them was that the kids didn’t have energy.  Seriously, lets muck about with young boys health for a freaking t.v. show!

Perhaps you want to read the headlines in Canadian papers about the horrific case going on right now – the Father who killed his Daughters because he found a picture of one of them with a boyfriend and just because he’s the Father and can do what the hell he wants.  Beautiful girls – no love, not even a “get out of my house and I never want to see you again”.

Just check it out and tell me about this awesome, loving, kind, generous, forgiving religion. 

The creep drowned them all (including the ex-wife who lived with them and loved the girls but he divorced because she couldn’t give him children.)  Yup, go read and tell me what I’m supposed to think. 

We know that’s what you think. You’ve posted that same comment 3525 times. 

We don’t need a TV show to tell us that there are good Muslims in the world, we all realize that there are lots of patriotic Muslims.  The premise of the show is hinting that most Americans think all Muslims are bad people and it’s lame that TLC, an entertainment channel, is trying to make a political point. We KNOW that 99% of Muslims are PEACEFUL and Law-Abiding. However, I’m not afraid to say that there is a Muslim problem in the world today with a small percentage of savages

They did cave into a groups idea of political correctness, It just happens to be your small minority group of xenophobic bigots.

I think your comparisons are ridiculous but I agree, no member of a state’s government should use their position to intervene in this situation. State Sen. Ted Lieu threatening “legislative action” is a joke and should be looked into.

Great example!

every western nation Muslims enter they desire for Sharia law to take hold.  How different is the United States from England???

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1510866/Poll-reveals-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html
http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/146

when do you see an American  Muslim on TV speak out against Sharia law…very rare almost never. 

Theocratic law is a bit, “serendipity!”  Are you drunk? Theocratic law sprouts from the canon of scripture of whatever religious community it represents.  You are dumb as a doorknob…or drunk, your pick.

Do you even know what Sharia law is?

So the lesson is that Conservatives do not like religious freedom or companies who would support religious freedom.  Got it.

Hooray for GOD!!!
Boo, Hoo for radical Muslim-Luvvin’ scum

Whose God? Yours? I was raised Catholic. I decided long ago that if heaven was populated by people like you, I’d as soon not go. To YOUR eternal reward, anyway.
How old are you, by the way?

No. Christians just rape little boys. Which, as any “family values” christian will tell you is much further up on the moral high ground.

“I was raised Catholic”

So was Charlie Manson….WTF has that got to do with anything?
You can’t be a liberal who condones the butchering of babies and go to Heaven
How old are you. anyway?

I believe your comment should be categorized as “non sequitur.” Meaning, it does not follow the premise of the discussion, ergo, is irrelevant.

There is plenty of subject matter to play with, so to speak, yet, this is all you can come up with?

Purveyor

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NO, I take that back. I have been tolerating your crass behavior and insults long enough.

I chose the word “serendipity” purposely, as it fit the nature of the discussion which was “Taqiyya” and/or the nature of all religious law. Hence, religious law and doctrine has proven itself to be, throughout history, “capricious,” even whimsical, ergo, my choice of the word: “serendipity.”

The use of the word serendipity, was sarcasm, even cynicism. Unfortunately, nuance and/or subtlety eludes you. In fact, you were not capable of recognizing the appropriate transition from the word Taqiyya, to underlying philosophy that would create such law!

I have grown weary of having to explain concepts that someone with a College Education should fathom, easily? I am skilled and educated in argumentation, debate and persuasion. Every time you use some form of ad hominem, you loose another point!

Your mother wears ARMY boots!

You are obviously bigoted against Republicans!

   Cosby cancelled for lack of commercials?

All decent human beings are bigoted against Republicans. Why would somebody not be bigoted against Republicans?

purveyor of nonsense – that is not a “non-sequitor” – the discussion is about stereotyping religions based upon the actions of men.  jmsbois posits a situation in which, using the same failed logic as people are attacking Muslims with – that if Christians, or Priests maybe rape children, then it must be true of all Christians.  It’s simple syllogistic logic – do please follow along.

Honor killings are a despicable part of Islamic culture and are not heavily covered in the US news. We had a murder case here in Arizona and the father, who deliberately ran over and killed his 20-year-old daughter because he felt she had become too “Westernized,” was ultimately sentenced to 34 years in prison. To the best of my knowledge, no Muslim groups ever spoke out publicly against this man’s cold-blooded murder of his daughter, no Muslim groups decried honor killings, no Muslim clergy or leaders have denounced Islamic zealots who have either tortured, maimed, or killed women for not “obeying” men or for some other minor infraction. A lawsuit against Dearborn, Michigan is in the works for its support of Sharia law and the alleged, shocking cover up of honor killings there.

And scores, even hundreds of Christian groups have denounced the Westboro Baptist cult – these people are not Christians, and their leader, a failed Democrat politician, is a hate-filled nutcase. However, I have yet to hear any Muslim groups EVER speak out against honor killings and the maiming of women, nor do they ever speak out against the bloody Islamic terrorism across the globe, nor do they speak out against the “war on the infidels” unleashed by these zealous hatemongers. Silence is acceptance.

Maybe because you are always tuned to Fox Noose. 
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/295260-1  (I recommend you watch this in it’s entirety.) You may actually learn something.

The author of this PC nonsense is either a Lib idiot, or suicidal, to support an ideology that commands ALL its followers to kill, oppress and annihilate all who refuse to believe as they do. 
ALL Muslims [not some or a few of them] are commanded by the Qaran to kill, oppress and annihilate ALL who don’t believe as they do. See this educational video here [it merely states what the Qaran itself commands so you can't refute what it says]:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib9rofXQl6w

The bottomline is that ALL Muslims, bar none, are EXTREMISTS and TERRORISTS.

If you say not all Muslims are like that, then those you are speaking about are either NOT true Muslims [for only someone who actually FOLLOWS what Islam commands is a FOLLOWER of Islam], or they are following the Qaran’s command to deceive “infidels” by pretending to not be true Muslims.

That’s just a stupid, stupid thing to say.  Look through your AMERICAN history and see who the bigoted party has been through and through.  Tell me then what your lyin’ eyes tell you.  Jack off.