Williams has a radio show, Wright had the president and first lady attend his church for 20 years and has been referred to as a mentor of the president by the president himself. Which one has more pull?

“It was Matalin’s way of responding to Williams’ tit with Wright’s tat.”
Yep, that is what people are doing right and left. But clearly the NCAAP was correct when they said that there are some racists associated with the tea party. And that is the point.

I didn’t know that a sitting president has been listening to and attending the teachings of Mark Williams. Nor has written a book about how Mark Williams had influenced his life. Or how Mark Williams has turned him to Christianity and made him the man he is today. Nor has Mark Williams at one point had the ear of a sitting President. Thank you for pointing this out…. Sarcasm!!!

valkyrie101 said:
“It was Matalin’s way of responding to Williams’ tit with Wright’s tat.”
Yep, that is what people are doing right and left. But clearly the NCAAP was correct when they said that there are some racists associated with the tea party. And that is the point.

And maybe the NAACP should clean it’s house before throwing all those stones?

When the First Lady and the President start spewing Wright’s hateful rhetoric, you get back to me dear. At least the President denounced Wright on national tv. Meanwhile, as Keith Olbermann just pointed out, that ass clown Williams claimed on MSNBC today that the racists douchebag teabaggers who carried those signs were plants from a group that was formed, 4 months ago, so how could they have been at the teabagger reacharound rallys LAST AUGUST? He’s as stupid as the first commenter on this page! Oh, and if Matlin’s face were pulled back any further, she could see her ass just by looking up.

tatboy said:
I didn’t know that a sitting president has been listening to and attending the teachings of Mark Williams. Nor has written a book about how Mark Williams had influenced his life. Or how Mark Williams has turned him to Christianity and made him the man he is today. Nor has Mark Williams at one point had the ear of a sitting President. Thank you for pointing this out…. Sarcasm!!!

If Obama had befriended Thomas Jefferson, who famously subscribed to some amazingly racist views concerning the “negro race”, would that also indicate Obama was a racist? Believe it or not, it is possible for someone to be mostly good, such as the ex-marine Wright, or Thomas Jefferson, and yet have some myopic views.

I’ll say it again for the other stupid commenter, have you heard the President say anything even close to the shit that Wright spewed? You people are so pathetic, bitter and ignorant. You can’t produce anything can you? You’re still bitter about that ass kicking from 2008 and it’s so clear. Your statements are empty and never based in fact. I dare any of you pea brains to give me one example. If you can’t, you should just STFU!

It’s the classic guilt by association instead of verification. I’m still waiting for someone here to back up their bullshit statements? Anybody?

Fine! I’ll go back to watching Rachel.

Roxsteady why did the Obama’s allow the racist Rev Wright to baptize their children ?

Here ya go Roxsteady !!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpzHQ_PC1uI&feature=youtube_gdata

Matalin is correct. If you screened every visitor to the Daily Kos, you kind loose cannons who say all sorts of stuff. The same is true on the right.

The real story here is not that there are extremists on the left and right — everybody knows that — but that the mainstream media reduce all of their coverage of the tea parties to rants on these kind of mindless stories about extremists. I will repeat the obvious: the tea parties are about government accountability and those who churn out all these stories on racism are trying to change the subject from the real thrust of the movement.

Conservatives on this post have made valid points.

But the focus for all conservatives has to be the upcoming elections. Any mindless stupidity that distracts us from victory in November is counterproductive and thus harmful. Mark Williams is not a fight worth fighting because it will not gain conservatives a single vote. Instead, they stand to lose some valuable independent and women voters.

Whatever Mr. Williams relationship is with the Tea Party Express, he did something incredibly idiotic, and should be repudiated. We need smart activists, not out-of-touch fools. If you believe, like I do, that because of the power of the mainstream media, we have to fight harder to get the conservative message across to voters, then you have to accept that Mr. Williams has to go.

murf said:
Roxsteady why did the Obama’s allow the racist Rev Wright to baptize their children ?

Why did America allow the racist Thomas Jefferson to write it’s declaration that all men are created equal?

TC said tit….(snicker)

But he was slouching when he said it so it doesn’t count…..

In all seriousness and joking aside I do want to make a point here Tommy. I don’t think rational people approve of Mark Williams decision to write what he did. But I do wonder if you’ve ever asked yourself how the NAACP would react if given the kind of media scrutiny/pressure as the tea party? If such pressure was brought to bare on them? If they were held as responsible for every member of it’s group?
We’ve all seen the racist rants of some of there members… you know the ones, don’t pretend you don’t. And I’m not talking about the NBPP videos either, that are trod out with the same zeal to destroy as stock footage of a Michigan Militia member in his dorky fatigues. I’m talking about the NAACP and some of it’s members saying indefensible things… Uncle Tom… Really?

roxsteady said:
I’ll say it again for the other stupid commenter, have you heard the President say anything even close to the shit that Wright spewed? You people are so pathetic, bitter and ignorant. You can’t produce anything can you? You’re still bitter about that ass kicking from 2008 and it’s so clear. Your statements are empty and never based in fact. I dare any of you pea brains to give me one example. If you can’t, you should just STFU!

You really need to calm down. 3 posts inside of 5 minutes, and the fact that I hadn’t responded to you in that time period means I can’t back up my statement. Well, in case you’ve never been to church, I’ll break it down for you. If you go to a church and you don’t like the stuff the pastor says, cause he’s spewing shit (your own words), you don’t go back to that church, much less join it for 20 years. The pastor of your church is your spiritual leader, in a very real sense, you are his follower. That’s how people who believe in their god choose their churches. I’m sure you believe Obama to be a brilliant man, so obviously he knew EXACTLY what Wright was about, with his Black Liberation Theology, antisemitism, collective salvation and anti-white sentiment. He wouldn’t have stayed if he didn’t agree with at least most of it. Or he should have been principled enough not to, anyway. None of your bullshit works. You don’t have any special insight into Obama that I don’t, and you’re not bright enough to do anything other than hurl insults and make empty claims. Do you even know what Wright’s rhetoric is, or what it’s based in? You wouldn’t even know it if the President were saying things along the same lines. Whatever second-rate education you received in life has obviously left you convinced that some insults and not funny jokes is all you need to convince people you’re right; all you’re really doing is nursing your pitiable ego. Try again. Scratch that. Try harder.

Puter Boi said:
TC said tit….(snicker)

But he was slouching when he said it so it doesn’t count…..

OK… that was funny $hit…

Vallkyrie – yes Thomas Jefferson at one time had slaves. However he later denounced and fought to abolish it in Va . He changed his views later in life . Also that’s a far fetched comparison in totally different times . Wright continues to be a racist. And don’t get it twisted the ONLY reason Obama denounced him was for his political gain. Obama has thrown anybody and everybody under the bus, to further his one goal – His own personal legacy.

murf said:
Vallkyrie – yes Thomas Jefferson at one time had slaves. However he later denounced and fought to abolish it in Va . He changed his views later in life . Also that’s a far fetched comparison in totally different times . Wright continues to be a racist. And don’t get it twisted the ONLY reason Obama denounced him was for his political gain. Obama has thrown anybody and everybody under the bus, to further his one goal – His own personal legacy.

Better do more google before you start typing on Jefferson’s views on race, which he wrote down. And of course, unlike Washington who freed his slaves, Jefferson remained a slave owner his whole life. And your response is otherwise gibberish. You simply can not distinguish Jefferson from Wright.

BHO condemns his grandmother and compares her to the racist Rev. Wright:

“I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother — a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world.

valkyrie101 said:
If Obama had befriended Thomas Jefferson, who famously subscribed to some amazingly racist views concerning the “negro race”, would that also indicate Obama was a racist? Believe it or not, it is possible for someone to be mostly good, such as the ex-marine Wright, or Thomas Jefferson, and yet have some myopic views.

Jefferson’s views were not myopic for his times.

valkyrie101 said:
Why did America allow the racist Thomas Jefferson to write it’s declaration that all men are created equal?

Blacks weren’t considered men, for convenience’s sake. I would love to know with certainty who was responsible for putting that in there and thank them, even if it wasn’t their intent that it would lead to the abolishment of slavery.

I don’t have to google anything Val . You comparing Jefferson and Wright , says it all.

valkyrie101 said:
And your response is otherwise gibberish. You simply can not distinguish Jefferson from Wright.

Tell me, when TJ said” GD America.”

I will wait.

…and the point is that a person can be a racist but still be great in other ways.

notsofast said:
Tell me, when TJ said” GD America.” I will wait.

Gibberish is catching. You will have to translate. Sorry.

valkyrie101 said:
You simply can not distinguish Jefferson from Wright.

Nice try at “Presentism” view of history, but that is so much sophistry. Comparing the mores of people who lived in the 17Th and 18Th centuries to current ones is pure gibberish.

Or do you wish to try Washington’s doctor who bled him to death before the AMA in absentia for malpractice?

valkyrie101 said:
Gibberish is catching. You will have to translate. Sorry.

You just lost again.

Now that was easy!

Presentism is a mode of historical analysis in which present-day ideas and perspectives are anachronistically introduced into depictions or interpretations of the past.

Hey, Val, were you the comedy writer who wrote that great SNL bit of “What would have happened to Napoleon if he had a B-52 at the Battle of Waterloo.”

LOL

notsofast said:
Nice try at “Presentism” view of history, but that is so much sophistry. Comparing the mores of people who lived in the 17Th and 18Th centuries to current ones is pure gibberish. Or do you wish to try Washington’s doctor who bled him to death before the AMA in absentia for malpractice?

I’m sorry, but Jefferson was a racist, by his own hand. At that time in history there were many people appalled at slavery, especially the northern puritans. England abolished slavery in 1833. So do not say that Jefferson’s racism was anything but his choice. A function of his upbringing in the south, perhaps, but still his choice. Wright never owned slaves. Jefferson never sold his.

valkyrie101 said:
…and the point is that a person can be a racist but still be great in other ways.

Serving in the Marines is certainly great. But Wright is hardly sowing the seeds for a bright future. He’s poisoning the Black community.

Mark Williams is the former chairman and current spokesman for the Tea Party Express. This is the leadership of the tea party , I’m sure all you teabaggers are just so proud.

valkyrie101 said:
A function of his upbringing in the south, perhaps, but still his choice. Wright never owned slaves. Jefferson never sold his.

Presentism is a mode of historical analysis in which present-day ideas and perspectives are anachronistically introduced into depictions or interpretations of the past.

At that time in history there were many people appalled at slavery, especially the northern puritans.”

But Puritans believed in God and we know how nuts that is , right Val?

atreyue said:
Serving in the Marines is certainly great. But Wright is hardly sowing the seeds for a bright future. He’s poisoning the Black community.

I suspect the only thing you have listened to concerning Wright is what you saw on FOX. Believe it or not 99% of the time he does go into racial matters. He is a very intelligent man. And in any event, you are not in a position to surmise the goodness of Jeremiah Wright.

Iris said:
Mark Williams is the former chairman and current spokesman for the Tea Party Express. This is the leadership of the tea party , I’m sure all you teabaggers are just so proud.

Yes, Iris telling an anachronistic organization that its very name is offensive to blacks is such a horrible thing.

bawahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

oops, I know you are salivating, 99% of the time he does “not” go into racial matters.

notsofast said:
Yes, Iris telling an anachronistic organization that its very name is offensive to blacks is such a horrible thing. bawahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

And Williams has his own radio show, and has been hobnobbing with all the tea party leadership people, even speaking on behalf of the national tea party. Doesn’t that prove that the tea party is racist?

:

valkyrie101
He is a very intelligent man. And in any event, you are not in a position to surmise the goodness of Jeremiah Wright.

Val’s, racist and anti-Semitic hero:

“You are not now, nor have you ever been, nor will you ever be a brother to white folk,” he said. “And if you do not realize that, you are in serious trouble.”

He cited the writings of Bill Jones — author of the book “Is God a White Racist?” — as proof that white people cannot be trusted. “Bill said, ‘They just killed four of their own at Kent State. They’ll step on you like a cockroach and keep on movin’, cause you not a brother to them.’ ”

Wright referred to Italians as “Mamma Luigi” and “pizzeria.” He said the educational system in America is designed by whites to miseducate blacks “not by benign neglect but by malignant intent.”

He said Ethiopian Jews are despised by white Jews: “And now the Knesset [Israeli parliament] is meeting with European Jews, voting on whether or not these African Jews can get into [Israel].”

The civil-rights movement, Wright said, was never about racial equality: “It was always about becoming white . . . to master what [they] do.” Martin Luther King, he said, was misguided for advocating nonviolence among his people, “born in the oven of America.”

“We probably have more African-Americans who’ve been brainwashed than we have South Africans who’ve been brainwashed,” he said, and seemed to allude to President Obama twice: “Unfortunately, I got in trouble with a fella for saying this . . . All your commentaries are written by oppressors.” At the mention of Nation of Islam head Louis Farrakhan — whom Obama disavowed during the campaign — black leaders “go cuttin’ and duckin’,” he said.

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2010/06/27/obamas-former-rev-wright-gives-seminar-bashing-whites-and-jews-media-mum#ixzz0ttvsyKxY

valkyrie101 said:
Doesn’t that prove that the tea party is racist?

By pointing out their name is offensive to blacks?

Yeah, in your world.

“We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye.”

“We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America’s chickens are coming home to roost.” (Sep 2001)

“The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing ‘God Bless America.’ No, no, no, God damn America, that’s in the Bible for killing innocent people. God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme.” (2003)

“In the 21st century, white America got a wake-up call after 9/11/01. White America and the western world came to realize that people of color had not gone away, faded into the woodwork or just ‘disappeared’ as the Great White West kept on its merry way of ignoring black concerns.” (magazine article)

“Racism is how this country was founded and how this country is still run!…We [in the U.S.] believe in white supremacy and black inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God.” (sermon)

“Barack knows what it means living in a country and a culture that is controlled by rich white people. Hillary would never know that. Hillary ain’t never been called a nigger. Hillary has never had a people defined as a non-person.”

“Hillary is married to Bill, and Bill has been good to us. No he ain’t! Bill did us, just like he did Monica Lewinsky. He was riding dirty.” (sermon)

“The Israelis have illegally occupied Palestinian territories for over 40 years now. Divestment has now hit the table again as a strategy to wake the business community and wake up Americans concerning the injustice and the racism under which the Palestinians have lived because of Zionism.”

Come think of it Vallkyrie theres probably alot of that you would argue on Wrights defense. You share the same socialist is good, capitalism is not, views , don’t ya?

valkyrie101 said:
I suspect the only thing you have listened to concerning Wright is what you saw on FOX. Believe it or not 99% of the time he does go into racial matters. He is a very intelligent man. And in any event, you are not in a position to surmise the goodness of Jeremiah Wright.

Believe it or not, many of my pastor friends know or know of Rev. Wright and have good things to say about him. I don’t doubt his or Obama’s intelligence. And I knew who he was long before I had ever heard of Obama or watched Fox. I just think that he and Farrakhan and others like him have done inestimable damage to the Black community. Since ‘good’ people do bad things all the time, I really don’t concern myself with whether or not he’s a ‘good’ man. I’m sure he’s done many ‘good’ works. But his philosophy is not good, and will probably be his most enduring legacy.

valkyrie101 said:
oops, I know you are salivating, 99% of the time he does “not” go into racial matters.

And unless you’re Black, you have no idea how much of a role it plays and is played upon in the black community.

Grampy nutso, obviously in your day it was fine to demean Black people and apparently you are still fine with it and still think its the cats meow. The world has moved on and so will you eventually and you and those like you will no longer be here to try and keep the hate going.

“He is a very intelligent man. And in any event, you are not in a position to surmise the goodness of Jeremiah Wright.”

Get real Valkyrie, he’s not exactly the Dalai Lama. In fact, he’s an asshole.

You were quick enough to surmise that Jefferson and Williams were racist, and Jeffersons been dead for a couple of centuries! There is quite enough evidence for you to make the same “surmise” about Wright.

murf said:
“We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye.” “We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America’s chickens are coming home to roost.” (Sep 2001) “The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing ‘God Bless America.’ No, no, no, God damn America, that’s in the Bible for killing innocent people. God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme.” (2003) “In the 21st century, white America got a wake-up call after 9/11/01. White America and the western world came to realize that people of color had not gone away, faded into the woodwork or just ‘disappeared’ as the Great White West kept on its merry way of ignoring black concerns.” (magazine article) “Racism is how this country was founded and how this country is still run!…We [in the U.S.] believe in white supremacy and black inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God.” (sermon) “Barack knows what it means living in a country and a culture that is controlled by rich white people. Hillary would never know that. Hillary ain’t never been called a nigger. Hillary has never had a people defined as a non-person.” “Hillary is married to Bill, and Bill has been good to us. No he ain’t! Bill did us, just like he did Monica Lewinsky. He was riding dirty.” (sermon) “The Israelis have illegally occupied Palestinian territories for over 40 years now. Divestment has now hit the table again as a strategy to wake the business community and wake up Americans concerning the injustice and the racism under which the Palestinians have lived because of Zionism.” Come think of it Vallkyrie theres probably alot of that you would argue on Wrights defense. You share the same socialist is good, capitalism is not, views , don’t ya?

And yet, despite his rage, and his venting, on other occasions, he preaches love, forgiveness and redemption. And moreover, he never owned slaves, like Jefferson.

This proves that when you see one of these kkklowns wearing a Tea Shirt that says, “Yup, I’m a racist,” they’re not kidding.

Of course I do like and appreciate Jefferson, for sure. He is respected not just in America, but around the world. Did you know that Ho Chi Minh read his writings and greatly respected him too? The point is, as I said before, a person can be flawed but still be, in the balance, a very good man.

Valkyrie if it were option , I wouldn’t put it passed him.

Btw Rev Wright teaches an eye for an eye philosophy. America deserves what it gets.

An that my friend is UNAMERICAN

murf said:
Valkyrie if it were option , I wouldn’t put it passed him. Btw Rev Wright teaches an eye for an eye philosophy. America deserves what it gets. An that my friend is UNAMERICAN

I thought that was a conservative traditional value?

notsofast said:
By pointing out their name is offensive to blacks? Yeah, in your world.

The term ‘colored’ is not offensive to blacks generally, although some may be offended. Check your census form and find the term ‘colored’ as it is preferred particularly by older individuals who are ‘colored,’ ‘african american,’ ‘black’ or even ‘negro.’

“Did you know that Ho Chi Minh read his writings and greatly respected him too?”

I’m sure the many thousands that Ho Chi Minh killed to seize and keep power in North Vietnam will appreciate hearing that.

Azarkhan said:
“He is a very intelligent man. And in any event, you are not in a position to surmise the goodness of Jeremiah Wright.” Get real Valkyrie, he’s not exactly the Dalai Lama. In fact, he’s an asshole. You were quick enough to surmise that Jefferson and Williams were racist, and Jeffersons been dead for a couple of centuries! There is quite enough evidence for you to make the same “surmise” about Wright.

If you say, such and such person is a racist, what does that mean? That every aspect of his life is foul? That he is completely worthless? It doesn’t work that way.

notsofast said:
By pointing out their name is offensive to blacks?

Yeah, in your world.

Does “offensive to blacks” = racist? Not in my book.

“If you say, such and such person is a racist, what does that mean? That every aspect of his life is foul? That he is completely worthless? It doesn’t work that way.”

it worked that way for David Duke.

Bill Adkins Yes an there was a outrage among many black leaders during the census form months, on the word ‘ colored ‘ .

Azarkhan said:
“Did you know that Ho Chi Minh read his writings and greatly respected him too?” I’m sure the many thousands that Ho Chi Minh killed to seize and keep power in North Vietnam will appreciate hearing that.

Well, the reason that he read Jefferson, the philosopher, is because the violent American revolution was a model that the communists studied very closely. They also examined the civil war, another violent American revolution. I wonder, did Robert E. Lee read Jefferson?

“If you say, such and such person is a racist, what does that mean? That every aspect of his life is foul? That he is completely worthless? It doesn’t work that way.”

It worked that way for David Duke.

But it has not worked that way for Louis Farrakhan, whose religion is literally built on racist thought, nor for Al Sharpeton, whose racist rhetoric has led directly murder. Nor, for that matter, with the radical chic’s newest heroes, the New Black Panther Party.

The problem is that white Leftists insist on a double standard. It renders them not only hypocritical, but servile.

Azarkhan said:
“He is a very intelligent man. And in any event, you are not in a position to surmise the goodness of Jeremiah Wright.”

Get real Valkyrie, he’s not exactly the Dalai Lama. In fact, he’s an asshole.

You were quick enough to surmise that Jefferson and Williams were racist, and Jeffersons been dead for a couple of centuries! There is quite enough evidence for you to make the same “surmise” about Wright.

He’s both. He’s a very intelligent asshole. And a racist. So he’s dangerous, which is why Barack threw him under the bus once His media wall broke down on the subject.

“Not the man I knew”? If you believe that, you either believe that Obama is a really stupid person, or you’re perfectly fine with being lied to. There are no other options.

Anyone who’s done a freaking Google search on the relationship between Obama and Wright knows better. And don’t get me started on Bill Ayers. You’d think people would care who the President of the United States is.

” I wonder, did Robert E. Lee read Jefferson?”

I couldn’t care less.

murf said:
Valkyrie if it were option , I wouldn’t put it passed him. Btw Rev Wright teaches an eye for an eye philosophy. America deserves what it gets. An that my friend is UNAMERICAN

Valkyrie says ;
I thought that was a conservative traditional value?

There you go again. Wright said America deserved 9/11 in essence for our past. America defends her self against EVIL , Radicals Islamic Terrorists, who depise and plot America’s and Israels destruction.

Azarkhan said:
“If you say, such and such person is a racist, what does that mean? That every aspect of his life is foul? That he is completely worthless? It doesn’t work that way.” It worked that way for David Duke. But it has not worked that way for Louis Farrakhan, whose religion is literally built on racist thought, nor for Al Sharpeton, whose racist rhetoric has led directly murder. Nor, for that matter, with the radical chic’s newest heroes, the New Black Panther Party. The problem is that white Leftists insist on a double standard. It renders them not only hypocritical, but servile.

But Farrakhan’s people do, and have done, a vast amount of charitable work. So that part is good, right?

That looks like I was pointing it at Azarkhan, when I did not intend to do so. A thousand pardons…

James Carville is a crackpot with no influence….and YOU married him!

Keep truckin’ Mark Williams…they just can’t take ‘da truth + some generous sarcasm..

“But Farrakhan’s people do, and have done, a vast amount of charitable work. So that part is good, right?”

Has he given charity to whites? Take off the blinders. Gangsters are also known to give to the poor. It’s about maintaining power, respect, and goodwill in the community. I didn’t say Farrakhan was a fool, I said he was a racist.

Word games don’t interest me. If you are going to condemn racism, then condemn it regardless of whatever color it appears in. If not, then at least recognize your hypocrisy.

valkyrie101 said:
But Farrakhan’s people do, and have done, a vast amount of charitable work. So that part is good, right?

Yes, and that’s very true. That’s why the NOI is so infuriating. They address the problems in the black community in a very straightforward and, dare I say it, capitalistic fashion. “Be a producer.” Half of Farrakhan’s message I’d stand up and cheer. If the other half weren’t so frigging ugly. And especially since it’s one of those “Looks like we’ve got a problem” situations. Their goal really doesn’t plug into a secular, pluralistic society. In fact, if they were white, you’d hate every iota of them.

murf said:
murf said:Valkyrie if it were option , I wouldn’t put it passed him. Btw Rev Wright teaches an eye for an eye philosophy. America deserves what it gets. An that my friend is UNAMERICAN Valkyrie says ;I thought that was a conservative traditional value? There you go again. Wright said America deserved 9/11 in essence for our past. America defends her self against EVIL , Radicals Islamic Terrorists, who depise and plot America’s and Israels destruction.

Say what you will about Wright, but he is all talk. Has he ever shot anyone, other than perhaps in service to his country during war? Has he murdered an abortion doctor? Did he fly a plane into a building? I mean yea, he talks nasty sometimes, for sure. But is that so serious? Even tea partiers like Williams has a right to vent his nastiness. But if you do, you will get called on it, and your views will be challenged, and you will be discredited, which is what happened to Wright and Williams, both. But otherwise, venting is permitted.

No problem Pablo-

Pablo said:
Half of Farrakhan’s message I’d stand up and cheer. If the other half weren’t so frigging ugly.

Yep.

Azarkhan said:
“But Farrakhan’s people do, and have done, a vast amount of charitable work. So that part is good, right?” Has he given charity to whites? Take off the blinders. Gangsters are also known to give to the poor. It’s about maintaining power, respect, and goodwill in the community. I didn’t say Farrakhan was a fool, I said he was a racist. Word games don’t interest me. If you are going to condemn racism, then condemn it regardless of whatever color it appears in. If not, then at least recognize your hypocrisy.

I am afraid you do not understand.

” I mean yea, he talks nasty sometimes, for sure. But is that so serious?”

Please send a memo to Nancy Pelosi and the other Democrats who accuse the Tea Party of stirring up violence with rhetoric. Are you high? Because after this, I need a hit. Good God!

“I am afraid you do not understand.”

I’m afraid I agree.

Be a father. Be a man. Love your people and look out for them. Take care of yourself. Don’t drink, don’t do drugs. Be respectable and respect yourself. Support yourself and your family, because nobody else is gonna do it. Oh, and Whitey’s got to go.

Yeah, infuriating.

“… Oh, and Whitey’s got to go.”

LOL

Pablo said:
Be a father. Be a man. Love your people and look out for them. Take care of yourself. Don’t drink, don’t do drugs. Be respectable and respect yourself. Support yourself and your family, because nobody else is gonna do it. Oh, and Whitey’s got to go.

Yeah, infuriating.

Well, 3 out of 4 ain’t bad…

valkyrie101 said:
Yep.

There’s a lot of people like that out there, all over the spectrum.

valkyrie101 said:
Yep.

OK, now who would ding that comment down? Why? Don’t be shy, dish. Both of you.

Azarkhan said:
” I mean yea, he talks nasty sometimes, for sure. But is that so serious?” Please send a memo to Nancy Pelosi and the other Democrats who accuse the Tea Party of stirring up violence with rhetoric. Are you high? Because after this, I need a hit. Good God!

Now talking violence, that is a different category of free speech. That is limited.

Leave it to Michele:

“Republicans have been wrangling for more than a year over how exactly to handle the tea party movement, but now Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) is bringing them under the big tent.

The House Administration committee, which usually takes days to approve something of this nature, approved Bachmann’s request to create a House Tea Party Caucus in a day. It will certainly give the national movement a more official voice within the House Republican Conference. ”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0710/39848.html#ixzz0tuHzC9N6

Speak of the devil:

“Last month, Louis Farrakhan, the “National Representative of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad and the Nation of Islam,” sent a three-page letter to the leaders of 16 major Jewish organizations demanding reparations for alleged crimes Jews have perpetrated against African Americans…”

The written diatribe continues with the Farrakhan proclaiming, “We could charge you [Jews] with being the most deceitful so-called friend, while your history with us shows you have been our worst enemy.”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2010/07/16/louis-farrakhan-sends-letter-asking-jews-for-reparations/#ixzz0tuJLYrZn

Pablo said:
And don’t get me started on Bill Ayers.

OH, why don’t you get started on that? And I’d like to see the links where you’re getting your info from.

“This is an ugly and despicable document,” Morton Klein, president of the Zionist Organization of America and one of the recipients of Farrakhan’s letter, told The Daily Caller. “The most frightening aspect of the letter was the threat of ruin and destruction if we do not comply with his demands, which is why we, at the ZOA, have sent a letter to President Obama urging him to speak out against it…The President has spoken about healing divisions between Jews and the Black community, this is a great opportunity for him to do so.”

Yeah, like that’s gonna happen.

I’d post them for you, john t, if you were worth the effort. But, sorry… Been around your block a few times before, and the night ain’t getting any younger.

Pablo, how do you do the HTML?

Pablo said:
I’d post them for you, john t, if you were worth the effort

No you wouldn’t, because you know damn well they come from some radical RW site. And I can break down every lie that you post.

@Azarkhan: You’d do a link as…

<A HREF=”url”>text here</A>

PS) The quotation marks are important.

Magister, just put HTML right in the comment section?

like this

Pablo, how do you do the HTML?

The Text Formatting Toolbar for Firefox is my very good friend.

I’ll try it-thanks!

@Azarkhan: It looks like you got it on your second try, if you were trying to link one of Rachel’s bits. Of course you’d change the text here to be the text you’d like to display, but yeah… it looks like you got it.

BTW: If you go to Yahoo! and search, there’s tons of introductory guides/crib sheets. Most of the basic stuff seems to work on this site, but I haven’t tried anything too fancy and there are probably some restrictions.

BTW: Once or twice, I’ve had something with three links go into the moderation queue, but I know three has worked at other times and I’m pretty sure that occasionally used more. Thus far, I’ve had no problems with two, but like I say, I did have the thing burp on three a couple of times.

all that ”racism” is a nonsense – in fact these are just political games, to engage people in some nonsense so that they could lose their heads, without realizing what really was happening around.
People, if they are normal, not the psychos of any race, don’t care about such things.
However, there are cultural/ social aspects, which are unacceptable to some groups of people, same time such loathed aspects could be quite welcomed by other societal groups.
It becomes very challenging, if such different groups [in their culture& ethnic tendencies ] need to live in proximity.
If I had to live in a place with my neighbors being loud and obnoxious, I would hate them, no matter what color. Just because it is irritating. I don’t like the behavior of many black people, not because they are black, but the behavior is just not acceptable for me. I was brought up with different manners. Same time, there are so many white people, just like me, but they are insufferable liberal fools, I would take a conservative black person for a friend anytime.
I really think the racism thing is so overblown, just comical, and we all look like fools at that.

Isn’t Williams the guy featured on C-Span on that “phoney tax day” protest reading a list of candidates the Tea Party supports? Gezzz they even included a Dem. And how’s that Scott Brown hopey changey thing working out for them? Has he finally mentioned the Baggers name since January. “But he did vote for President Obama;s Finance Reform Bill. I love Scott.

Williams was important enough to stand on the podium and feature on C-Span, but NOW that he’s showing his true colors “The Baggers” want to distance themselves from him. Williams is just “telling” the truth about the beliefs of the “Racist” he Represents. He was on the Tea Party Express Bus and ALL the “Pres. hating Baggers” showed up with their “flags” and Teabags on their heads to “cheer” Williams and his supporters ON.
Racist, Racist, Racist. I don’t care how many Al Sharpton’s, Rev. Wright’s you bring up to justify your B.S. You’ll ALWAYS be known as a Mob of Racist. And….when Glenduh has his little sham on Aug. 28 we’ll all look at the Racist Mob around the Monument PRETENDING to be “Patriots”.

Now he Has NO Influence. That’s B.S.

This comes as NO SURPRISE:

____________________________________________________________________________

Conservative dismisses right-wing Black Panther ‘fantasies’…

A scholar whom President George W. Bush appointed as vice chairwoman of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, Abigail Thernstrom has a reputation as a tough conservative critic of affirmative action and politically correct positions on race.

But when it comes to the investigation that the Republican-dominated commission is now conducting into the Justice Department’s handling of an alleged incident of voter intimidation involving the New Black Panther Party — a controversy that has consumed conservative media in recent months — Thernstrom has made a dramatic break from her usual allies.

“This doesn’t have to do with the Black Panthers; this has to do with their fantasies about how they could use this issue to topple the [Obama] administration,” said Thernstrom, who said members of the commission voiced their political aims “in the initial discussions” of the Panther case last year.

“My fellow conservatives on the commission had this wild notion they could bring Eric Holder down and really damage the president,” Thernstrom said in an interview with POLITICO.

___________________________________________________________________________________

Of course everyone already knew this except the teatards and the foxsuckers.

Thanks, Big…..Wish you had posted the link to that story.

And…..Thanks as well to the NAACP!! Great start.

U.S. Civil Rights Commission vice chair Abigail Thernstrom, a Bush appointee says:
“This doesn’t have to do with the Black Panthers, this has to do with [her Republican colleagues'] fantasies about how they could use this issue to topple the [Obama] administration,” said Thernstrom. “My fellow conservatives on the commission had this wild notion they could bring Eric Holder down and really damage the president.”

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/joan_walsh/politics/2010/07/16/conservative_slams_right_on_new_black_panther_lies

Thousands of pictures of Baggers’ and their RACIST antics and all they Got on the President is ONE REVEREND WRIGHT. Who was “kicked” to the curb’. Baggers “ain’t kicking Any of their RACIST” to the curb. They’re trying to deflect and pretend EVERBODY IS RACIST BUT THEM.

I would put links up of their B.S. and name calling and JUNTA crap, but all you pretender “Patriots” know it’s true.

yweston-
Nobody really likes that Holder guy.
He is a very intellectually limited individual, without any principals, and really a fine example of those tribal thinking personalities.
He needs to go away, as does Obama, because he is no good for anybody, including you.
Obama is there all in for his sorry self. He isn’t a good man, or decent man by any measure.
People do think that he is a fraud and scam artist. Nothing is going to change that opinion, even the most ardent supporters of his do share that opinion.
Problem is, just like you, they don’t want to loose their face at the continues disaster, which Obama and Holder and the rest of the gang now in power truly are.
yweston- Obama does not like you, there will be no return to your love, sorry.

4bee said:
…..

Hahahahaha….classic.

4bee , 100% correct

murf said:
4bee , 100% correct

Don’t you mean Psychologist Dr. 4Bee.

She seems to know what a lot of people are THINKING.

Maybe she’s just a mind-reader. lol

dear F_Big Deal-
see, you don’t need to read peoples minds, just listen to them! People talk!
Seems to me, that you are not listening to anybody- you are just dismissing them, everyone who is telling that Obama and his wife Michelle are up to no good, it happens to be true, very sorry, but it is the ugly truth.
These people all around you are no fools, and the truth is so easy to understand.
What makes you to close your eyes and ears, prefering blindness and darkness to the light?
Obama’s are not good people, neither is Eric Holder, every one knows that!
And I am convinced – you know that too! Why do you lie to yourself?
BTW- why do you have such an unpleasant screen name? hate much yourself?

4bee said:
BTW- why do you have such an unpleasant screen name?

My screen name? What about yours?

What do the 4 “B’s” stand for.

Bitch, Barren, Bleached-Blond and Butt-Ugly? lol

well said 4bee, obviously wasted breath, however….maybe B_F_D will come around before Obama picks his carcass clean and he’s denied life saving healthcare by Obama’s “death panel”….it’s comin’ folks…you think you have a doctor/patient relationship, it is in the process of being destroyed as we sip our morning coffee…

@4Bee:

Guess I struck a “NERVE”. Or you wouldn’t address everything with
yweston “blah, blah, blah, blah, blah………..”And Obama Doesn’t Love YOU”

Well 4BEE “He does LOVE ME. He doesn’t LOVE YOU.” Not that you care. But don’t lump me in with your “hateful” REAR END.
“I’m Happy”. THE PRESIDENT LOVES ME. WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yweston said:
Thousands of pictures of Baggers’ and their RACIST antics and all they Got on the President is ONE REVEREND WRIGHT. Who was “kicked” to the curb’. Baggers “ain’t kicking Any of their RACIST” to the curb. They’re trying to deflect and pretend EVERBODY IS RACIST BUT THEM.

I would put links up of their B.S. and name calling and JUNTA crap, but all you pretender “Patriots” know it’s true.

If I were a nasty, bigoted racist like you, I’d be mighty circumspect about throwing that term around. But you’ve got a different plan, spamming every thread with the same vile nonsense. Yuck.

yweston said:
Thousands of pictures of Baggers’ and their RACIST antics

LOL

And you can prove zero of that.

Go back to your sewer, racist!

yweston said:
Well 4BEE “He does LOVE ME. He doesn’t LOVE YOU.” Not that you care. But don’t lump me in with your “hateful” REAR END.
“I’m Happy”. THE PRESIDENT LOVES ME. WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, it’s nice to see someone like yweston come right out and say it. Rev. Wright lives on!

the real john t said:
No you wouldn’t, because you know damn well they come from some radical RW site. And I can break down every lie that you post.

HAHAHAHAHAhahahahAHHAHAhhhahAhhHAHAHAHAHAHAhhAHHHAhahAhHAHaHA !!!!!!!!!

Yes john t , you are renowned for you calm, cool logic and steady mind.

We’re talking about an undercurrent of racism that pervades the so called hash up disorganization called the Tea Party that tries to evade responsibility for its members each and every time they do something like Wilson here has done. This is not a one-time event. It’s Dale Robertson, so-called Tea Party founder, who claims there’s no racism n the Tea Party but does this http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_X_d6JjJ00I4/S0KgqGNJ1bI/AAAAAAAAXuM/BJeCGmn9VsM/s400/Tea+Party+Activist+Dale+Robertson.jpg Or there’s the events on the Capitol steps where African American congressmen were spat upon and epithets were hurled. There’s the sale of “Yup, I’m a racist” Tea shirts at Tea Party events. So many examples of these acts and when busted they claim it’s all in good fun or an isolated event. Right now Mary Matalin is in damage control mode claiming Mark Wilson is a fringe nut with little power in the Tea Party — but then he’s appeared multiple times on poltical news programs speaking for the Tea Party. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CitkQMVev8M Williams himself in this clip claims those who do such things are fringe and that all the rest are just ‘normal Americans.’Note how Williams was slapped then. What you are trying to do here is piss on my leg and tell me it’s raining. That tactic ain’t working.

Bill Adkins– Talk to me when you and your buddies take responsibilty for Obama’s Marxist , communist , racist , islamofacist pals. The most anti American associations in the history of presidents , if not citizens .

Shorter post; lunatic attacks lunatic for being a lunatic, tea party lunatics continue to self-cannibalize.

Unions (Not the Tea Party) Now AstroTurfing, MSM Silent

It was April 15, 2009 when Speaker Pelosi pronounced the Tea Party protests as fake, using the term AstroTurf (as in phony grass roots).

The entire MSM covered that story and many worked overtime to brand the Tea Partiers as “AstroTurf” in an effort to discredit a genuine, homegrown movement the likes of which has not been seen in this country in decades.

Despite the fact that tens of thousands of people were part of hundreds of protest events held around the country on Tax Day 2009, NBC’s Chuck Todd appeared on the Today Show telling Matt Lauer the Tea Party movement was one that “hasn’t really caught on”:

On August 4, of last year, while on MSNBC’s Hardball, Senator Barbara Boxer joined in the discredit chorus, telling Chris Matthews that the protesters were “too well dressed” and too well organized to be legitimate:

As the town hall meetings during the summer recess of ‘09 found more and more opposition, the charges of “AstroTurfing” grew louder and were accompanied by warnings that they could turn violent. In August, MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann speculated that there was no spontaneity and brought on Melissa Harris-Lacewell from Princeton University to explain that normal people were being riled up by the GOP and “corporate interests.”

Of course Rachel Maddow wasn’t going to let Keith and Chris have all the fun; last October she actually featured a segment called “The Roots of Astroturfing”:

While Ms. Maddow was quick to point out that the multi-millionaire David Koch had chosen to use his own money to help fund like-minded individuals in their efforts to protest the direction our country was headed, she completely neglected to mention or draw a parallel to the tens of millions of dollars spent by George Soros to fund the liberal learning Center for American Progress, Moveon.org and their assorted activities.

So it should be no surprise to anyone when the labor unions openly admit to AstroTurfing by hiring people to stand in picket lines and protest something while paying less than a union worker would earn, the silence from the media is deafening.

Light the Irony Lamp and let it shine brightly on this one.

Let me repeat that… The folks standing on picket lines and protesting and chanting at union events? They are temp workers hired by the unions. Are you like me? Didn’t you expect those passionate souls demanding better wages, health care and pensions for workers to be union workers? Newsflash, they are not.

The Wall Street Journal reports that the powerful unions who pressure and demand that companies pay a “living wage” to it’s members are only offering minimum wage or barely above it to those who stand, march, and demand what they are not getting.

If the protests are so important, why are the actual union members NOT interested in doing the actual work?

“For a lot of our members, it’s really difficult to have them come out, either because of parking or something else,” explains Vincente Garcia, a union representative who is supervising the picketing.

Read more: http://bigjournalism.com/mopelka/2010/07/17/unions-not-the-tea-party-now-astroturfing-msm-silent/

Finally a slight ray of intelligence from Mary.

4bee said:
dear F_Big Deal-see, you don’t need to read peoples minds, just listen to them! People talk!Seems to me, that you are not listening to anybody- you are just dismissing them, everyone who is telling that Obama and his wife Michelle are up to no good, it happens to be true, very sorry, but it is the ugly truth.These people all around you are no fools, and the truth is so easy to understand.What makes you to close your eyes and ears, prefering blindness and darkness to the light?Obama’s are not good people, neither is Eric Holder, every one knows that!And I am convinced – you know that too! Why do you lie to yourself?BTW- why do you have such an unpleasant screen name? hate much yourself?

OK 4Bee what are they up to?? Tell me what people are saying they are up to. What on earth could it be? The two of them have the power to do what on their own??? I remember having this same debate with a friend during the Bush administration. She was certain that BUSH was going to take over the world. OMG he is going to become KING. Not that I liked Bush and yes he did some very destructive things but hell he didn’t take over the world.

People like you are just out to put the fear of god into people. And yes it does work with some people. But anyone with half a brain knows that two people Obama and Holder cannot take over the country by themselves. If you know how that will happen, please fill me in.

The Hardcore Militia, AWOL, Creativity Movement, Concerned Citizens, Silent Majority, Time Cannibal Cult, Nothing Pedocannibal Cult, The Process Cult and so on ARE DEAD.

The Lesbian Separatists, especially Ferron, Lily Tomlin, Jane wagner, Cherry Davis, Lenore Burneko and Melanie Dennis INTENTIONALLY spread AIDS under the guise of “testing it.” Gay Pride, Act Up, Queer Nation, Silence=Death and The Pink Triangle are red herrings and fronts for a worldwide child porn, child rape, foetus eating, baby eating, baby fucking, pedophile, necrophiliac, beastiality, AIDS sporeading and cannabalism network. ALL women involved in the music and television industries EXCEPT Catie Couric are mass murderers.

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Apparently Fox News overlooked the dismissal of charges against the (3) white men who perpretrated voter intimidated against Latinos in Prima, AZ.

Here’s the video of the DOJ testimony: They talk about the AZ case near the end of the video. Transcript attached to the video for anyone who wants the real truth.

Statement of Thomas E. Perez, Assistant Attorney General, Civil Rights Division, Before the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights. May 14, 2010

http://www.mainjustice.com/2010/05/14/perez-testifies-at-new-black-panther-party-hearing/

“One example is the recent instance we have identified that most closely resembles the facts in the 2009 Philadelphia Section 11(b) case that is a primary focus for this hearing. The Civil Rights Division received a complaint from a national civil rights organization regarding a matter in Pima, Arizona alleging that during the 2006 election, three well-known anti-immigration advocates – one of whom was wearing a gun – allegedly intimidated Latino voters at a polling place by approaching several persons, filming them, and advocating against printing voting materials in Spanish. In that instance, the Department declined to bring any action for alleged voter intimidation.”

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
My screen name? What about yours? What do the 4 “B’s” stand for. Bitch, Barren, Bleached-Blond and Butt-Ugly? lol

Big_F_Deal-
You didn’t answer to any of my questions, including explanation to the reasoning of your insane screen name.
But- since you asked about mine, no matter how rudely- I still could explain-
”bee” stands for my nick name, but ”4”: just because the site asks for some numbers to be included in the screen name. It is very simple, I was hoping you could figure that out.

As for your :”Bitch, Barren, Bleached-Blond and Butt-Ugly? lol</blockquote
''Bitch, Barren, Bleached-Blond and Butt-Ugly
Sorry, but in the society I live in, we do not refer to a woman as a "bitch'', much less addressing ones self as such. Perhaps, that could come as a surprise to you, oh well…
Barren? No, not at all, I am a proud mother of 2 grown up sons, very happy!
And no, I am not a Bleached- Blond. My hair turned white sometimes at the age of 50, which is not that unusual.
Butt- Ugly? That would be a matter of taste and perception, wouldn't it ? Judging by your posts, more likely you would lack taste in many aspects of life, so~ no surprise here.
Perhaps you could provide us with your pic, so that we could indulge ourselves with the appreciation of your beauty?
Have a courage now, heh :)

Pablo said:
Well, it’s nice to see someone like yweston come right out and say it. Rev. Wright lives on!

Yweston wrote in anger:
”Well 4BEE “He does LOVE ME. He doesn’t LOVE YOU.” Not that you care. But don’t lump me in with your “hateful” REAR END.
“I’m Happy”. THE PRESIDENT LOVES ME. WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pablo-
~ that’s the problem with angry people, they desperately need love, but~ while them being so angry- there is no hope for that. Now – yweston- is hoping that perhaps her president would love her, poor thing.
Though amazing is, that Obama still doesn’t have a clue, that he was supposed to be a president for the whole country.
Instead, he has been constantly bashing and abusing one largest part of the nation, only to become puzzled, when these very people he was bashing don’t take it so well. They don’t even take quite seriously whatever he had to say. Too many lies and deceit. People despise his arrogance and incompetence deeply.
But for poor souls like – yweston- they have been the last on the list of his concerns, except for the votes, of course.

BlackWidow said:
OK 4Bee what are they up to?? Tell me what people are saying they are up to. What on earth could it be? The two of them have the power to do what on their own??? I remember having this same debate with a friend during the Bush administration. She was certain that BUSH was going to take over the world. OMG he is going to become KING. Not that I liked Bush and yes he did some very destructive things but hell he didn’t take over the world. People like you are just out to put the fear of god into people. And yes it does work with some people. But anyone with half a brain knows that two people Obama and Holder cannot take over the country by themselves. If you know how that will happen, please fill me in.

BlackWidow- there is no need for me to put fear of God into the people- just look around you?
What do you see?
Don’t even talk about Bush- people had jobs and money, being quite happy, even whilst the red socialist media were attacking him relentlessly 24/7, and lying, lying, distorting, preparing the way for the Chosen One- the communist in the WH. Now- he is there.
Do I need to place any fear of God in anybodies mind? Much too late.

No influence? He helped form the group and now he’s listed as their spokesperson.

I love how all the conservatives are trying to pretend the Tea Party racism is a figment of imagination and when they’re shown the evidence, they claim those people are not Tea Partiers. Then, when it’s undisputable that the offender is a Teabagger, they claim he lacks influence.

The whole Tea Party movement is about racism. If Obama were white with a name like “Joe Smith,” there would be no Tea Party.

atreyue said:
You really need to calm down. 3 posts inside of 5 minutes, and the fact that I hadn’t responded to you in that time period means I can’t back up my statement. Well, in case you’ve never been to church, I’ll break it down for you. If you go to a church and you don’t like the stuff the pastor says, cause he’s spewing shit (your own words), you don’t go back to that church, much less join it for 20 years. The pastor of your church is your spiritual leader, in a very real sense, you are his follower. That’s how people who believe in their god choose their churches. I’m sure you believe Obama to be a brilliant man, so obviously he knew EXACTLY what Wright was about, with his Black Liberation Theology, antisemitism, collective salvation and anti-white sentiment. He wouldn’t have stayed if he didn’t agree with at least most of it. Or he should have been principled enough not to, anyway. None of your bullshit works. You don’t have any special insight into Obama that I don’t, and you’re not bright enough to do anything other than hurl insults and make empty claims. Do you even know what Wright’s rhetoric is, or what it’s based in? You wouldn’t even know it if the President were saying things along the same lines. Whatever second-rate education you received in life has obviously left you convinced that some insults and not funny jokes is all you need to convince people you’re right; all you’re really doing is nursing your pitiable ego. Try again. Scratch that. Try harder.

So, you know for a fact, that the Reverend gave a sermon on those subjects at any time? Do you have any evidence? Any audio? Any video? Any transcripts?
You admit in your rambling that you have no special into Obama, yet you allow yourself to make unsubstantiated claims about his influences.
By the way, people don’t go to church to follow the preacher, they go to church to follow their Lord.

4bee said:
BlackWidow- there is no need for me to put fear of God into the people- just look around you?What do you see?Don’t even talk about Bush- people had jobs and money, being quite happy, even whilst the red socialist media were attacking him relentlessly 24/7, and lying, lying, distorting, preparing the way for the Chosen One- the communist in the WH. Now- he is there.Do I need to place any fear of God in anybodies mind? Much too late.

Wow, are you REALLY going to make a statement that people had jobs and money under Bush’s administration? Well, they did when he took office. His tax cuts for corporations reversed that very effectively. People didn’t lose their jobs and money at noon on January 20, 2009.

notsofast said:
LOL And you can prove zero of that. Go back to your sewer, racist!

Partner, anyone can pull up any number af Tea Bagger racist posters at any moment by doing a web search.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/galleries/teabonics_the_flawed_language_of_protest/teabonics_the_flawed_language_of_protest.html

http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/2009/04/racist_signs_at_tea_parties/

http://www.blueridgemuse.com/node/3539

http://www.pensitoreview.com/2010/01/04/photo-shows-top-tea-bagger-holding-sign-with-n-word-which-he-misspelled/

Whoops, accidentally clicked on a T. Christopher blog via the dashboard.

4bee said:
dear F_Big Deal-see, you don’t need to read peoples minds, just listen to them! People talk!Seems to me, that you are not listening to anybody- you are just dismissing them, everyone who is telling that Obama and his wife Michelle are up to no good, it happens to be true, very sorry, but it is the ugly truth.These people all around you are no fools, and the truth is so easy to understand.What makes you to close your eyes and ears, prefering blindness and darkness to the light?Obama’s are not good people, neither is Eric Holder, every one knows that!And I am convinced – you know that too! Why do you lie to yourself?BTW- why do you have such an unpleasant screen name? hate much yourself?

Wow. What color is the sky in your world?

dowdaytrader said:
well said 4bee, obviously wasted breath, however….maybe B_F_D will come around before Obama picks his carcass clean and he’s denied life saving healthcare by Obama’s “death panel”….it’s comin’ folks…you think you have a doctor/patient relationship, it is in the process of being destroyed as we sip our morning coffee…

Really? I can’t believe that some moron is STILL preaching about “Death Panels”. Are you really going to attempt to make a point by quoting the Half-Term Governor? Talk about wasting your breath.

notsofast said: “BHO condemns his grandmother and compares her to the racist Rev. Wright:

“I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother — a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world.”

How can this possibly be construed as “condemning” grandma – except in your own diseased mind, Your clueless and feckless Sphincterness?

“Republicans have been wrangling for more than a year over how exactly to handle the tea party movement, but now Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) is bringing them under the big tent.

“The House Administration committee, which usually takes days to approve something of this nature, approved Bachmann’s request to create a House Tea Party Caucus in a day. It will certainly give the national movement a more official voice within the House Republican Conference. ”

According to Keith Olbermann, Michele Bachmann’s TP caucus has ONE member: MIchele Bachmann.

“Isn’t Williams the guy featured on C-Span on that “phoney tax day” protest reading a list of candidates the Tea Party supports?

“Williams was important enough to stand on the podium and feature on C-Span, but NOW that he’s showing his true colors “The Baggers” want to distance themselves from him.

“Racist, Racist, Racist. I don’t care how many Al Sharpton’s, Rev. Wright’s you bring up to justify your B.S. You’ll ALWAYS be known as a Mob of Racist. And….when Glenduh has his little sham on Aug. 28 we’ll all look at the Racist Mob around the Monument PRETENDING to be ‘Patriots’.

“Now he Has NO Influence. That’s B.S.”

The right will instantly turn on one of its own if it serves their purposes. Williams is just the latest sadsack right-wing extremist to get a knife in the back from his own kind. (“Et tu, Mary?”)

“Nobody really likes that Holder guy.”

I do. You’re wrong.

“He is a very intellectually limited individual”

From wikipedia:

“Holder previously served as a judge of the Superior Court of the District of Columbia, United States Attorney, Deputy Attorney General of the United States and worked at the law firm of Covington & Burling in Washington, D.C. He was senior legal advisor to then-Senator Barack Obama during Obama’s presidential campaign and one of three members of Obama’s vice-presidential selection committee.”

“and really a fine example of those tribal thinking personalities.”

“Tribal” thinking?

” He needs to go away, as does Obama, because he is no good for anybody”

These simplistic, baseless dismissals are sadly typical of too many right-wingers. If it weren’t for “inductive logic,” they’d have no logic at all.

MoD; The misspelled “N-word” sign and the “morans” sign noted elsewhere actually speak volumes in their respective ways.

Williams tried to tell radio host Thom Hartmann that it’s “impossible” to be a racist and a Tea Partier – an objectively ridiculous assertion. No matter how hard they try to run away from him, Williams is a neocon Tea Partier and they are STUCK with him.

roxsteady, would you please explain to me how making the statement “if Matlin’s face were pulled back any further, she could see her ass just by looking up” adds to this discussion?

MoDans55 said:
Wow, are you REALLY going to make a statement that people had jobs and money under Bush’s administration? Well, they did when he took office. His tax cuts for corporations reversed that very effectively. People didn’t lose their jobs and money at noon on January 20, 2009.

It is very simple- just check the unemployment numbers for the President Bush years, and compare them to the numbers of president imposter O’Bozo! President Bush cared about the USA, didn’t kiss the shoes of any tyrant, like president O’Bozo does.
One must be blind not to see the difference. For 4 years the vicious Democrats being in the Congress and Senate ruined this country, that imposter is just finishing off the job they started.
Businesses are down and not hiring because they know O’Bozo would kill any prosperity and profit. He needs the distribution of wealth, for the checks and education of the Affirmative Action recipients.
And stop that nonsense mantra about the ”evil corporations” you liberals keep chanting, enough already- they give jobs to America, not that you would want one, or knew anything about economy.

jrcmi said:
notsofast said: “BHO condemns his grandmother and compares her to the racist Rev. Wright: “I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother — a woman who helped raise me, a woman who From wikipedia: “Holder previously served as a judge of the Superior Court of the District of Columbia, United States Attorney, Deputy Attorney General of the United States and worked at the law firm of Covington & Burling in Washington, D.C. He was senior legal advisor to then-Senator Barack Obama during Obama’s presidential campaign and one of three members of Obama’s vice-presidential selection committee.” “.

You know very well: Holder’s education was under the Affirmative Action, just like his carrier. Same goes for Obama, as well as for Sheila Lee Jackson, and Maxine Waters, and many more of them – all the same Affirmative Action recipients, where they mark the real “F” for ”A” and ”B”.
A well known scenario, and if you bring up all these Universities etc. – just ask Sheila Lee Jackson something about Vietnam! Please, you make us all laugh, that’s all!
Eric Holder- one obtuse individual with a dull fear in his eyes, who happens to have a ”right” hue of his skin for Obama administration.

MoDans55 said:
Really? I can’t believe that some moron is STILL preaching about “Death Panels”. Are you really going to attempt to make a point by quoting the Half-Term Governor? Talk about wasting your breath.

The ”Half- TermGovernor” is a proud business owner, knows economy and has worked hard all her life.
That is quite the opposite what the community organizer has done in his life, hustling on the streets of Chicago driving out the businesses with the bogus ”social justice” claims, never having a real job in his life.
O’Bozo was a hustler and is a hustler, and he isn’t even fit to untie the shoes of the Half Term Governor. Your kind put themselves all out to destroy Gov Palin with the bogus ethics accusations, as previously the hustler O’Bozo has done in Chicago. But didn’t work quite well this time- Gov Palin said: good luck to you! Have it to yourselves! She is a multimillionaire now! And she were right about the Death panels- Obama is a death panel to USA just by himself.

jrd said:
roxsteady, would you please explain to me how making the statement “if Matlin’s face were pulled back any further, she could see her ass just by looking up” adds to this discussion?

Well, cannot be helped- that’s the level of his intellect- the ass level. That’s all roxsteady is about.

MoDans55 said:
Partner, anyone can pull up any number af Tea Bagger racist posters at any moment by doing a web search.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/galleries/teabonics_the_flawed_language_of_protest/teabonics_the_flawed_language_of_protest.html

http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/2009/04/racist_signs_at_tea_parties/

http://www.blueridgemuse.com/node/3539

http://www.pensitoreview.com/2010/01/04/photo-shows-top-tea-bagger-holding-sign-with-n-word-which-he-misspelled/

Good god, the same ridiculousness over and over again.

The NYDaily news – what is racist about ANY of those signs? (Did you know sign #7 is being held by a black guy? Convenient cropping…) Please explain to me how any of those are racist?

The niggar sign has been discussed on here numerous times – the guy does not speak for any real tea party group, and was kicked out.
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/black-tea-party-member-decries-naacps-brain-death-with-a-little-help-from-andrew-breitbart/#comment-91991

And again, explain to me how portraying President Bush as a witch doctor is fine, but portraying President Obama as a witch doctor is racist?

And the Obama as Hitler image you linked to is from the LaRouche pac, which is a liberal group, and wants full on socialized health care.

Again, how is portraying President Bush as Hitler ok, but portraying President Obama as hitler racist?

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/larry-kings-tea-party-discusssion-predictably-entertainingly-leads-to-meltdown/#comment-92936

@sarainitaly and 4Bee

Racist supporting the Tea Party racist. Tooo0ooooo Late!!! Everybody knows who they “really” are. I can’t wait until Becks soiree in Washington. I bet the memo is out NOW. “KEEP THE RACISM DOWN”. So we can pretend this is about the GOOBMENT and Obamacare. It will be a ‘scream’.
And….of course the M00siah must be there to attract More people for a BETTER photo OP. At lease one that Faux doesn’t NEED to “doctor up”. The way the did that 9/12 Pee Party.

My girlfriend lives in DC she said “groups are there Everyday” marching about something. This will just be another bunch of whiners!!

I can’t “wait”.

yweston said:
I can’t wait until Becks soiree in Washington. I bet the memo is out NOW. “KEEP THE RACISM DOWN”.

Oh, there will be plenty of hollering about black people. I expect to hear “uncle Tom” again and again and again. And I’m sure you won’t dissappoint me.

sarainitaly said:
Again, how is portraying President Bush as Hitler ok, but portraying President Obama as hitler racist?

JUST BECAUSE, RACIST! :)

4bee said:
BlackWidow- there is no need for me to put fear of God into the people- just look around you?What do you see?Don’t even talk about Bush- people had jobs and money, being quite happy, even whilst the red socialist media were attacking him relentlessly 24/7, and lying, lying, distorting, preparing the way for the Chosen One- the communist in the WH. Now- he is there.Do I need to place any fear of God in anybodies mind? Much too late.

I am more afraid of the people that think like you do than anything this government can do to the country. Actually, I am sad for people like you that live in this mindset. It must be all consuming to be in fear of everything that goes on.

4bee said:
Well, cannot be helped- that’s the level of his intellect- the ass level. That’s all roxsteady is about.

Hey we agree on something here. While I approve of Roxs politics I think that she must use this blog as an outlet for her pent up anger. Interesting!

“The niggar sign has been discussed on here numerous times – the guy does not speak for any real tea party group, and was kicked out.”

Yet another devout TP leader thrown overboard for speaking his, er, mind. These guys should start a club.

I don’t recall seeing Bush portrayed as Hitler – probably because the corporate media failed to cover the many anti-war protests at which such signs, if any, would be displayed.

It would be wrong to portray Bush as Hitler. He was more of a Mussolini Fascist. Cheney actually bore a vague resemblance to Benito, even beyond the physical.

FoulBee: “You know very well: Holder’s education was under the Affirmative Action, just like his carrier.”

I never mentioned his education. How do you know what kind of education he received?

“Same goes for Obama, as well as for Sheila Lee Jackson, and Maxine Waters, and many more of them – all the same Affirmative Action recipients, where they mark the real “F” for ”A” and ”B”.

“A well known scenario, and if you bring up all these Universities etc. – just ask Sheila Lee Jackson something about Vietnam!”

So, NO black person ANYWHERE is qualified, capable, intelligent. . . . Affirmative action is not universal, yet you paint all people of color as having benefited from it. You twice misidentified “Sheila Jackson Lee,” which makes one wonder how well you know what you’re talking about – if at all.

” Please, you make us all laugh, that’s all!”

Racism may be funny to you, but many of us aren’t laughing.

“Eric Holder- one obtuse individual with a dull fear in his eyes, who happens to have a ”right” hue of his skin for Obama administration.”

“Dull fear”? How are you able to divine Mr. Holder’s innermost thoughts? Voodoo?

Are you self-aware enough to even REALIZE that you’re a racist? You prove it by your own unsubstantiated, grandiose and ludicrous statements.

“Your kind put themselves all out to destroy Gov Palin with the bogus ethics accusations, as previously the hustler O’Bozo has done in Chicago.”

From: http://www.chicagobusiness.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?id=31045 :

“Obama asks Jones to blink on ethics bill
By: Greg Hinz Sept. 17, 2008

“(Crain’s) — Responding to pleas from government reformers, Democratic presidential nominee U.S. Sen. Barack Obama on Wednesday phoned Illinois Senate President Emil Jones Jr. and asked him to call the Senate back into session “at the earliest possible opportunity” to consider a major pending ethics bill.”

Obama PUSHED for ethics reform in Illinois . . . regardless of what Fakes News may have told you to think.

” But didn’t work quite well this time- Gov Palin said: good luck to you! Have it to yourselves! She is a multimillionaire now! And she were right about the Death panels-”

Palin bailed out on Alaska – leaving behind serious problems, many of which were of her own making – and chased the big money. She baselessly claimed that the health care reform bill included “death panels.”

“Obama is a death panel to USA just by himself.”

George Bush deliberately failed to act on urgent warnings given to him prior to 9/11. He started TWO illegal wars that have caused the needless deaths of 5600 American soldiers and as many as a million Iraqi civilians. Bush was a far worse “merchant of death” than Obama could ever hope to be.

Your rambling, ambiguous and unsubstantiated claims are so fantastical I am compelled to question your sanity.

jrcmi said:
I don’t recall seeing Bush portrayed as Hitler – probably because the corporate media failed to cover the many anti-war protests at which such signs, if any, would be displayed.

Did you live under a rock for 8 years?

http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=612
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3506/3797552703_9dbdd22d38_b.jpg

sarainitaly said:
Did you live under a rock for 8 years?

http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=612
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3506/3797552703_9dbdd22d38_b.jpg

And my all time favorite:

http://www.ringospictures.com/index.php?page=20090816

Perhaps I’m mistaken and maybe this has been covered somewhere on electronic media, but didn’t this year’s “Tea Party Express” tourstart in Searchlight, Nevada with a Sarah Palin speech and it toured the country to its second to last stop on Boston Common with another Palin speech.

Now Williams’ profile in Wikipedia links to the 2008 and 2009 tours, but it doesn’t mention the 2010 so maybe it was organized by someone else, but when I hear “Tea Party Express”, I think of the Palin-heavy tour that just occurred and I wonder if she’s made some kind of statement.

NAACP, is racism, will always be racist, and will never evolve into freedom.

Tea Party, is what the Founders planned and delivered.

lanquihue said:
And my all time favorite:

http://www.ringospictures.com/index.php?page=20090816

Wow, I’ve never seen that one before. Thanks for linking!

Seriously, where the hell does the Left get off criticizing anything on the Right? That was the biggest collection of garbage and hate! It just amazes me they now get all outrageously outraged over Obama as Hitler posters, or anything for that matter.

The race card, that’s the difference. It was ok then, because Bush is white?

sarainitaly said:
Wow, I’ve never seen that one before. Thanks for linking! Seriously, where the hell does the Left get off criticizing anything on the Right? That was the biggest collection of garbage and hate! It just amazes me they now get all outrageously outraged over Obama as Hitler posters, or anything for that matter. The race card, that’s the difference. It was ok then, because Bush is white?

sarainitaly, ~ of course, the left goes on slandering the Tea parties, because they know, that’s the worst accusation there is in USA. If nothing else works, they are hoping that would stick. Because the mask of the ugly the left has slipped, for what they really are- racists and socialists. Now they are desparate, because they are loosing their ground. America has stood up for their ideals and the Constitution, they don’t know how to justify the road to socialism. To silence us, they need the slander.
Good article on it in the Telegaph. uk

lanquihue said:
And my all time favorite: http://www.ringospictures.com/index.php?page=20090816

really- wow and wow!!!! thank you for the link!
And they have the nerve of accusing Tea parties with anything? My good Lord- there is all you need to know about the left, in these pictures….shameless!

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2010/01/025329.php

check this out- very powerful!

“Did you live under a rock for 8 years?”

“Wow, I’ve never seen that one before.”

You asked – and answered – your own question.

The corporate media gave scant coverage to the anti-Iraq war protests at which such images were seen. It was “un-American” – and bad for business – to give airtime to citizens protesting the illegal actions of their government.

You can crawl back under YOUR rock, now.

You are too white to be American! Says Latino KKK

Illegal immigration supporting Brown Beret protesters harass American patriots in front of Californians rallied in front of Angel Stadium (Anaheim, CA) that are trying to support Arizona’s SB 1070 law on Tuesday July 13, 2010.

Nicknamed the Tan Klan or Latino KKK, the Brown Berets are a paramilitary organization founded in the 1960′s that support illegal immigration as a way to forge a racially pure homeland for Latino’s by overthrowing part or all of the United States. Many of these brown Nazis call their plans for a racist homeland ‘Aztlan’.

While this woman brazenly screams racist comments through a bull horn, she can do so because the Obama administration and most of the major news networks in America have her back.

While many in the media will conceal this incident, coverage of the NAACP’s false claim the Tea Party Movement is racist can be found on all networks.

If America knew the truth about the real violence and racism that is pervasive in the pro illegal alien and pro Comprehensive Immigration Reform AMNESTY movement, then CIR would be destroyed.

http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/07/racist-mexican-group-harassed-tea-party-youre-too-white-go-back-to-europe-video/

The moral outrage on both sides of the NAACP/Tea Party debate is pretty laughable. Mark Williams claims that the Tea Party has no racists? Come on. Get 20 people together at a neighborhood block party and you will have a racist in your presence. And the NAACP, while they have accomplished many good things for African Americans, they are hardly the last bastion of unadulterated racial tolerance.

Read this article: Token White Member of NAACP Calls Tea Party “Racist”; Lone Black Tea Partier “Outraged”.

Very FUNNY!

http://www.dailygoat.com/?p=1798

Busted: Dishonest Hacks at Think Progress Caught Manufacturing Another Fake Racist Tea Party

THINK PROGRESS IS BUSTED AGAIN!
The far left Soros-funded outfit does not just produce bogus films…
They write bogus articles, too.

The horrible far left hacks at Think Progress once again were caught lying about supposed racism in the tea party movement. On Monday they posted some random editorial – from early July – published in a New Hampshire paper – by some lone racist and try to link him to the tea party…. But if you read the whole editorial you see that “tea party” is not even mentioned in the racist editorial! The tea party is not linked to this racist in anyway.
Think Progress just took an editorial written by some random racist and then they threw tea party on the title of their post. What horrible dishonest cranks.
Here is the entire editorial from the Concord Monitor:
As Think Progress reported, the New Hampshire racist was disowned as a candidate by the GOP who called him a “despicable racist” and a “fraud.” Murdough has no love lost for the GOP, complaining, “they’ve sold white people out.”
Think Progress also admits that they don’t even know if Murdough is a tea partier. But, he did mention “tea party” in the comment’s section of the July article and therefore, according to these radical hacks at Think Progress, that proves that the tea party is racist.
Got that? The tea party is racist because some white supremist mentioned their name. Using this same logic, Obama is Al-Qaeda because he was mentioned in a Zawahiri tape. Hillary Clinton is part of the Taliban because they mentioned her in a tape.
This is insane and extremely dishonest. But, when you’ve got nothing and the unemployment rate is close to 10%, the record deficit is going over a trillion dollars, the country is broke and the president’s radical policies are unpopular across America, you make up lies to protect your radical associates.
What a disgusting dishonest website.

http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/07/busted-filthy-dishonest-hacks-at-think-progress-caught-manufacturing-another-fake-racist-tea-party-story/